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Suleika Jaouad (on creative alchemy)

2025/7/2
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Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
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Dax Shepard: 我对泰勒·斯威夫特的音乐版权问题持保留态度。我认为将她描绘成完全的受害者是不准确的。她有机会购回自己的音乐版权，但她不喜欢当时的交易条款。我不喜欢分手歌曲中无休止的受害者叙事。我反对我们的阵营，也反对我的党派。我不喜欢二元思维，我喜欢在混乱的中间地带摸索想法。在泰勒的经典故事里，杰克·吉伦哈尔是个可怕的人，所有的前任都是。 Monica Padman: 我喜欢泰勒·斯威夫特，她是一个不会轻易放弃的老板。她有一种天赋，让人们能将自己投射到她身上，她的胜利就像是个人胜利。无论他们是谁，他们都会在她身上看到自己。这是一种天赋，你可以把自己放在她身上。所以当她取得这些胜利时，即使她是一个合法的亿万富翁，你也会把它们当作个人的胜利。

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Dax and Monica discuss Taylor Swift's acquisition of her master recordings, questioning the narrative and exploring the complexities of the situation. They debate whether it was a case of victimhood or a shrewd business move, considering the role of Scooter Braun and the deal's terms.
  • Taylor Swift's acquisition of her master recordings is discussed, challenging the common narrative.
  • The complexities of the deal and the role of Scooter Braun are analyzed.
  • The discussion questions whether it was a case of victimhood or a strategic business move.

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Suleika Jaouad (The Book of Alchemy: A Creative Practice for an Inspired Life) is an Emmy Award-winning journalist and bestselling author. Suleika joins the Armchair Expert to discuss why in a memoir you should save the sharpest knives for yourself, being excited when something holds up a mirror to our ugliest parts, and moments of creative injury and the validation that can come from them. Suleika and Dax talk about finding her sense of belonging in books, choosing to play the double bass, and meeting the love of her life Jon Batiste at band camp. Sulieika explains how her leukemia was misdiagnosed as burnout syndrome, the experience of witnessing her worst day alchemize into one of her best, and why the only way for her not to be consumed by her fear during her illness was to collaborate with it.

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