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Boots on the ground.

You stayed in India an extra day. Yeah, I got bullied to stay another night because I had a poor showing night one of the combine. We all went home pretty early because we're old. We're washed. Went home at about 10 p.m. on Tuesday night. So I decided to stick around, and I'm very glad that I did just for this little juicy nugget. So what happened was I was having some drinks with a friend of the program, Mike Silver, and...

A slew of Michael, Michael Silver, a slew of reporters and agents came downstairs and they were all abuzz about essentially a melee that happened in the Starbucks. Talking about the palace. It was worse than Malice in the Palace. Okay. So they came down and they were like, we just saw the craziest thing ever. And it was an extension of Twitter fight that happened earlier in the day.

So it all stems from the report that Jordan Schultz had that Matt Stafford and Tom Brady went on a nice little cozy ski vacation together. Matt Stafford, it is kind of, you'll see a pattern with him. He went to Cabo with Sean McVay before he became a Ram. That was also a coincidence that they happened to run into each other. Just happened to see each other. So in this case, he happened to run into Tom Brady at a ski resort, and Schultz was saying that they talked about the future, things like that.

And then Ian Rappaport came over the top and said, I'm told that this was just a coincidence. They both go vacationing there sometimes. They did not talk about plans for the future. So Jordan Schultz was essentially reporting that

Tom Brady almost hosted Matthew Stafford to come out. Yes. And that would be tampering. And his quaint little... Well, it was a fitness vacation. Yeah, a fitness vacation. And Ian Rapport was like, no, that was actually a coincidental. They see each other. Which, by the way, I know the Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford thing, I know it seems...

to have these two guys just run into each other. But I do think that we don't realize what the insane, insane wealthy athletes... They only have a couple places they can go to be totally private. So it's not totally crazy they would run into each other. I mean, can you imagine the coincidence level, though, if you and I happened to run into each other on vacation? Yeah. I'm just not buying it. I don't think that's possible. But I do think there's... I think Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford are probably vacationing in a place that...

that we could never get to. I think that's probably correct, yes. So according to Rappaport, they just happened to be at the same place, didn't talk about the future, didn't talk about playing for the Raiders. The interesting part, though, is that Jordan Schultz works for Fox. And so he was saying, like, he was telling on his...

co-worker, Tom Brady. Okay. And then that got people all in a tizzy at the Combine, too. This is the level of nerdiness that happens at the Combine. Everyone's like, wow, I can't believe he's going after his own co-worker like that. So that was earlier in the day. Apparently, Schultz ran into Ian Rappaport at the Starbucks. This would never happen at a Stella Blue. No. Violence-free. Also, real quick, so it was at a Starbucks. Jordan Schultz, there's no relation to...

That's what's interesting about it. Oh, okay. His dad was the CEO of Starbucks. Founder of Starbucks. Maybe not founder, but he was the guy. He was the Starbucks guy. Yeah. And also... Also the Sonics guy. His dad was the guy that took the Sonics away. Yeah. So they get into a little argument there. Jordan Schultz walks up to Ian and says, we have to talk. Ian says, I don't think we have to talk about anything.

Jordan Schultz then says, like, you need to back the fuck off because you're talking about me behind my back. Oh. Throws in a couple F-bombs. Okay. Then Rappaport was like, I'm not talking about you behind your back. Apparently, this is what the scuttlebutt was. Okay. Schultz was saying that Ian Rappaport is going behind his back and telling people that Jordan Schultz gives agents Uber stock in exchange for scoops.

Uber stock? Uber stock. I don't know how this got involved. Like a lot of stock? Yeah, like Uber amount of Starbucks stock? No, like Uber stock is what... The car. Somehow Schultz thought that Rappaport was telling people that he was giving people Uber stock. Okay. I talked to Rappaport. Ian Rappaport has never told anybody that they get Uber stock, but now it's got... According to Ian Rappaport. Per sources. Well, that also... But then now it has me thinking like... Yeah, if you're Jordan Schultz and you're accusing someone of that, it feels like it could be true? Yeah.

I don't know. I don't think that Ian actually said anything like that. He's probably said some other things about Jordan Schultz behind his back. I'm not saying it could be true that Ian Rapport's saying it. I'm saying if you're going around defending and being like, hey...

I'm not giving Uber stock to people. It raises a lot of questions about Uber stock. I didn't even say anything about Uber stock. Yeah, my not involved in human trafficking t-shirt is making people ask a lot of questions that are already answered by my t-shirt. Correct, correct. So there was a dust up. There was a fracas. He got in his face, apparently. I'm going to read.

Mike Florio's report on everything. I knew Florio was going to get involved. Love that. So this is per Pro Football Talk. If you have anything to say to me, say it to my fucking face, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect. If this continues, we're going to have a fucking problem. Oh, boy. If this happens again, we're going to have a fucking problem, Schultz said, or specific words to that effect. I love that reporting by Florio. Yes.

Now I'll step back. So got in his face. There were like, I don't know, five or 10 people that just witnessed it straight up happen. And then after he walked away, Rappaport notified NFL security called the cops or Roger Dell on him.

And per sources... What does that mean? Well, he called NFL security and was like, hey, there was a confrontation. There's a fracas? According to Rappaport. But why? He called the NFL security because it was witnessed by so many people. He knew that somebody would have reported it. And he wanted to talk to them instead of them calling him in a day and him having to give his side of the story. Per Rappaport.

I think we just settled this. You think that's something NFL security would be concerned about? They are investigating. There's an active, ongoing investigation. I don't know how I feel about this. So I think I know how I feel about it.

Rough and rowdy. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be good. Settle it in the ring. I did see him earlier in the day. He was wearing a pretty sick shark backpack that's not like the one he was wearing a few years ago. It's like all blacked out shark. New shark. Yeah. It's a new shark. He looks good. Yeah. I...

I think I'm on Rapport's side until the police get involved. NFL security gets involved. That was not a good move. He should have probably just, instead of calling NFL security, should have just blew on his rape whistle at the Starbucks. What I would have done is I would have just simply gotten punched in the face and then made a fuckload of money. True. Good point. Maybe Uber stock. This is just such a hilarious... They're having a source off. They're fighting in a Starbucks. No actual physical contact was made.

Just bad words said back and forth. And I think Jordan Schultz told Florio he did not say any bad words. He said he didn't recall using all that profanity. Now, I do have a picture. Do you want to see the picture of the confrontation? I would love to see a picture of the confrontation. Wait, you were there? I was not there. Okay, you got... Yeah, because I want video of this. I don't think that there was any video. This is the only picture that I know that exists.

And it's perfect because the Starbucks sign is right above Jordan Schultz's head. Also, they look like they're not in a fight at all. Schultz, he's smiling. He has hands on his hips. He is towering over Rappaport. Yeah. And that appears to be Jeremy Fowler next to them as well. Listen, it's always good when a couple of reporters get in a little fracas over a source off. It's good. This is good for the sport. Yeah. Get the buzz going. The lamest fight ever. I'll say that right now. If there was an NFL insider Royal Rumble...

I'd take Jay Glazer. What about our guy Prisco? I don't know that he's an insider. He's a film guy. Yeah, but he would fuck some people up. If he heard that there was a journalist fight, he'd show up. Yeah, no, Jay Glazer obviously is 1-1 draft pick. I don't think it's even close. I feel like I'd take Schefter over Rapsheet. Yeah. He's a sturdier boy. I'd agree with that. Fowler is big. He's got a reach issue. That's going to be tough to deal with. Yeah.

Racine got like seven red cards in college. She's a dog. She's violent. She's a dog. She could dog it up. Rob Lowe. Rob Lowe's an insider, yeah. Insider. Yeah. It's not exactly the who's who of guys who should be fighting. I would imagine both these guys probably haven't been in a fist fight. It's just so funny that he called...

The NFL security on someone, on another reporter. Reporter on reporter crime. Yeah, but this is... What do you think the NFL security is like? They're like, dude, are you serious? Yeah. We have like 150 college prospects here. We got to make sure that everything goes without incident.

And you're calling about a source off at a Starbucks? Yeah. I think they have bigger fish to fry than two guys that will never fight. And if they did fight, would probably not do any damage to each other. No, they should have a debate. I would like to see a debate. Who do you guys think is right about the Brady-Stafford interaction? I find it hard to believe that they just showed up at the same vacation. We're like, oh, this is a weird coincidence.

I don't think though, but I see, that's what I'm saying. I don't know if it's that weird of a coincidence when it's like, I'm pretty sure they, they, what's the club called? There's the, it's the,

Big Sky? Yeah, so there's a club where you have to buy a home to be part of the club, and the homes are like $10 million. So it's like Zuckerberg and Brady. And so just to be in that room, you have to be the wealthiest of wealthy. Yellowstone Club. Yeah, that's where I'm like, it actually could happen in my mind because it's not like...

They saw each other at Disney World. You know what I mean? They ran into each other at Times Square. It's a weird coincidence that the owner of a team that is looking to get a quarterback and a quarterback who is looking to be traded from his team happen to be at the same place hanging out. It is a weird coincidence for sure. But I just think that these like the crazy, crazy wealthy and stars. What does it say? Yeah. Home purchase price of three million or more and initial membership due of $400,000 plus annual costs.

Not a lot of people get in that. Zuckerberg, Bill Gates. Yeah. This is who we're talking about. Yeah. So. Yeah. I mean, I know this club exists. I just think that I think the two of them were having a little rendezvous on the slope. But do you think I guess really the only thing would be do you think they that there was an explicit invitation? That would be where it's tampering with like Brady was like, hey, come out here. Or was it?

They happened to see each other or maybe someone tipped off one of the sides being like, hey, I think Stafford's there. Hey, I think Brady's there. Then they might have met up. The rules don't apply to Tom Brady, though. He'll probably get away with it or he'll smash his phone before it gets confiscated. I think if you can prove that Tom Brady was like, hey, I'm going to be at Yellowstone Club, come out for the weekend, then that's tampering. Otherwise, it's going to be hard to prove.

Does that feel fair? It's going to be very hard to prove. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. And especially since Stafford has kind of been given permission to look for a trade and feel out where his next location is going to be. Yeah, I guess. Is that tampering? Everybody's going to be tampering with him. Yeah. Is that because he's been...

set in the wild where he can go try to talk to people. Is that technically tampering? I think they have an open relationship right now. The Rams and Matt Stafford. So Tom Brady just cracked the garage out at the Yellowstone Club. Put a pineapple on the front lawn. Yeah. Got his pineapple snowboard out. And yeah, just had a little conversation.

It is kind of crazy, the whole Tom Brady situation. It does feel like this is what, the third or fourth time something has happened? Mm-hmm. Just figure it out. The rules don't apply. Just figure it out. Figure out the rules, NFL. You...

Goodell would... You'd think he'd want to go after Brady for something like this. Right. It is funny, though, that Schultz works for Fox and then he was tattling on his co-worker. Yeah. Although, there's 0% chance that if you ask Tom Brady, is Jordan Schultz your co-worker, he'd say yes. Correct. Like, there's no way. He's like, oh yeah, that's my co-worker. Yeah.

Unless Tom Brady owns like half of Uber. Then he'd be like, yeah, we're doing a lot of business together. Yeah. I see the stock going being traded every single day. It's such a funny accusation, though, that this guy's giving out Uber stock in exchange for scoops. All right. So do we have a conclusion to it? Is there anything else from it? My conclusion was that everybody. Did you ask Rapport if he'd fight him?

I did not ask him if he'd fight him. He stepped into this room at this party I was at after I had tweeted it out and the story had just broken. I was the first person he saw. He was like, you motherfucker. I was like, hey, I'm just doing my job here. I'm a journalist just like you. I didn't name any names. I was going to let it come out. But yeah, it was quite a night. That's hilarious. Also saw Big Dom.

I got to be Big Dom for Big Dom. I introduced him to somebody. I was like, this guy's going to take care of you tonight. My paisans. Yeah. We had seen him earlier in the day with Nick Ciarano coming Monday. Max, good job on that interview. Thanks. You guys tried to fuck me, but thanks. Nah, I don't think so. I think we just remembered facts. Yeah. Okay, so we also had the NFL report cards come out. I feel like they used to have more anecdotes from these.

Now it just feels like a straight report card. Yeah. I needed more anecdotes. I needed more like, oh, yeah, the Jaguars. Like, I tried to get a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, and there was a cockroach on it. Yeah. I remember those. It was like small blurbs. There was a couple blurbs. One for your owner, Hank. Yep. Robert Kraft's plane is not up to snuff. Yep. Ashtrays.

I mean, if you're like, if I personally me, if I buy a private jet, like I'm keeping it for probably a long time. But ashtrays is wild. Like seeing ashtrays anywhere. No, it's kind of a wild thing. Like 1993, 1994. You get new seats put in. That's probably true. How crazy is that used to just be allowed to smoke on airplanes? Yeah. I can't even imagine that. Yeah. It's crazy. Or restaurants. Yeah.

I mean, yeah, bars. I remember when it was like 2008, maybe. It was banned everywhere. Yeah. I remember the last night. It was like, I think it was in Illinois. I remember being at a bar and everyone was just like smoking cigarettes because they're like, tomorrow you can't do this anymore. Yeah. In Virginia, I would go to bars sometimes. This is when I was like underage, but I would go to see a band or something. And then your hair would just smell like cigarettes for three days, no matter what you did after that. Yeah.

Yeah, that's wild. Well, they had the smoking section, which was just a table that was right next to the non-smoking section. I got it. 2008. I remember, yeah. Just everyone was just, everyone was like, even people who don't smoke, they're like, this is our last chance. Got to do it. Yeah, you just come home reeking of cigarettes. Reeking of cigarettes. So the Patriots got an F for team travel. The Bills got an F minus for team travel. Again, that's not a real grade. An F minus doesn't exist. It doesn't exist.

It doesn't this. It's all Fs, but they got an F minus for travel. The players aren't happy with the travel accommodations for away games. I think it's just that the Bills miss being in Buffalo when they're on the road. Probably. They're just like, there's no wing nuts here. Yeah. F minus. Yeah. And then there was kind of insulting. They should have just did like a NA for the only coaches that got a C or worse for

were the Bears and the Jaguars because obviously this poll was done, I think it was like August to November. This was Doug Peterson and Matt Eberfuss. That felt mean. You could just say, you know, coaching change. It doesn't count anymore because they're sitting there minding their business like, oh, fuck, my team really hated me. Yeah. Because C was the worst. C was an F. Yeah, the Eagles also had an F for team travel. They don't like the travel situation. Gotta fix that.

Got to fix that. I like this poll because the Commanders got way better at a bunch of stuff. Every team, they basically get embarrassed publicly, and then they fix it. Last year, the Commanders got an F- for treatment of families, and I would say that that's probably the category that you do not want to get an F- in. That seems to be a pretty important one. That really is just breastfeeding rooms. They have a daycare facility now, which is good. Otherwise, it was just like, if you are playing in the game, bring your kids to the stadium, and just let them go. Yeah. I don't understand...

how anyone owns a team and gets anything worse than like a B on any of these things. If I had that much money and I owned a team, I'd be tricking out everything. Yeah. Like everything. I'd have the sickest locker room possible. Yeah, locker rooms. There were a lot of negative comments about locker rooms. I'd also have a locker in the locker room. As an owner. Yeah. And I would time up my workouts so that I was changing when all the guys came off the field, being like, man, what a...

What a great practice we had. Yeah, so the last place was the Cardinals, I believe. I think they had the worst grades overall. The Jets, memes. Memesy. F for ownership. Bad. Is that Brick or Woody? I think that's Woody. That's Woody. Brick is the future. Yeah. Bad. That is bad. It looks like the players turned on the owner in the grading. It is such a funny concept, like where...

They probably, obviously, when they see Woody Johnson in the hallway, they're nice as possible. And then they're like, yeah, he's an F. Absolute F. And he sees it like, what the hell? I thought those guys liked me. I thought you guys were my friends. Yeah, we were talking game. The Patriots got an F for their weight room. Got to get that weight room fixed. I think Frabe's going to take care of that. Day one. I don't understand how you have a bad weight room. I don't understand how you have a bad any of these things. Am I crazy for saying that?

Yeah. No, you're not crazy. Yeah. Like, remember a couple years ago, the Bengals, it was like they didn't do food on Tuesdays and Wednesdays? Yeah. How is that possible? I know how it's possible. The owner's cheap. But I just don't understand. I can't conceptualize...

and owner of a football team being like, our players don't get to eat on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. Food and weight room and fitness. Right. That's how you build the team. Right. Like, you can't control coach if they don't like to coach. Obviously, if strength coaching, you hire the wrong guy. But yeah, like locker room, food,

Weight room. That's so easy. Yeah. It has to be so easy. Dan Campbell had 100% approval rating. Love that. As a head coach. I believe Dan Quinn did too. 100%. I think Raheem Morris also was very highly rated. Yeah. So looking at the Bengals, they got the F- for treatment of families.

And then... Yeah, Bears looked okay. Yeah, the Bears, it was the coach obviously brought their grade down, and I think they got to fix treatment of families as well. So it's work to be done and also win games. That's the other thing is they actually should do a column here for fans.

Fans should get a say in this. I agree. Just overall vibes. The other thing, the Baltimore Ravens, didn't they get an F a couple years ago? Maybe it was last year for their medical staff, their training staff. So good news, now the training staff is at a B-. Oh. So they've improved. I think that was just when they were all injured.

And they're like, it's the trainer's fault. Right, right. The Eagles got an A- in food. I think that's probably just Big Dom's office. Yeah. It's just like everyone's like, yeah, the food was fine, but I can always go to Big Dom's office and get a great meal. I can open up a cabinet and have a chicken parm ready to go. Okay. What else we got? Did you guys see? Did you see the Eagles said the players feel they should get first class seats on team flights instead of the coaching staff? Oh, that's a fair point.

So they want the coaches to sit coach. Here's something I don't understand as well. And maybe someone can explain to me when you buy a plane. Why isn't every seat just first class?

That's, I think, the Patriots' complaints as well. I don't get it. You can remodel. Make every seat first class. Have every seat be a lay-down bed. I don't understand it. Do you think the linemen are sitting like coach? Like a guy who's like Jordan Mailata is sitting in like 23B? I think they get full rows, but I don't know why you wouldn't remodel it and just make it so that everyone has an awesome seat. What's the difference then if you get a full row? Legroom.

Leg room. It's probably like Southwest. They get on and then you can pick your seat. Jordan takes the middle seat and then just defies anybody to try to sit window or aisle next. We need to get an owner on and just talk to him. How is this possible? Maybe I'm just way missing this, but the NFL makes so much money. These guys make so much money every single year.

I would put all the money back into it and just be like, here, guys, let's make this the best place possible so people want to come here. Yeah, you would think so, right? Oh, no. Look, the Patriots aircraft has all first class seats with five extra inches of legroom beyond a typical first class seat. They call it aircraft? Yeah. That's awesome. That's a good name. That is pretty funny. Well done, Max. Got it.

Got what? But they still got a bad travel plan. Yeah. Craft. I think just teams don't like... I saw a lot of teams complaining that there wasn't Wi-Fi on the planes. But that's every plane ever. Yeah. You could be the richest person in the world and you still would be trying to get Wi-Fi on a plane. Yeah. That's just how it works. You spend the entire flight just refreshing.

And you don't get anything. Right. You spend two hours searching for Wi-Fi. I also think the Dolphins aren't filling this out. I think the team just got sent the thing and they just didn't read anything. They did fives across the board. Well, the Dolphins get the credit of living in Miami. So everyone's like, yeah, my life's pretty good. I live in Miami.

I think the... Everything is A+. They're first in everything. I think that they... Everyone has got that survey where it's like, I don't feel like filling this out. I'm just giving five. It's an A+. But I think where you live matters because it's like, if you're in Buffalo, if you're in Green Bay, if you're in Cleveland...

You need your facility and weight room to be good because that's where it sucks outside. You have to attract people. I think the Vikings and the Falcons also had very good grades. Yeah, they always do. Just everybody copying over Kirk Cousins' shoulder. Yeah. Okay, so good job some of the teams, not all of them. Did you guys see...

One of my favorite stories I've seen in a while, Dwayne Wade did a podcast and he revealed that he knew that LeBron's time in Miami was coming to a close because Pat Riley took away LeBron's cookies. Yeah.

Incredible. And also, I think I'm 100% on LeBron's side. So Dwayne Wade tells a story. He's like, yeah, we get on the plane. LeBron loves cookies, loves ice cream. He's got a bag of cookies that he brings on every plane. And they were playing cards. And LeBron said to someone, hey, bring me my cookies. And the flight attendant was like, sorry, sir, there are no more cookies on this plane. Pat Riley had taken them away.

If someone takes another man's cookies, you have to fight them. That's fight. That's fight. Fuck whether Tom Brady invited Matthew Stafford. That's a fight. The thing is, you could just not give cookies in the first place, but you can't give them and then take them away. But he brought the cookies. Oh, really? He brought his own cookies on the plane. Can you find the clip? Can we play the clip? He brought the cookies, and Pat Riley confiscated them like it was fat camp. What kind of cookies were there? He said chocolate chip.

Were they ooey? Listen, God forbid, if those were homemade cookies, then it's actually you have to beat the fuck out of Pat Riley in front of the whole team. I'm saying if they're ooey and they're gooey and you take them, yeah, I'm quitting. It's very funny because Dwayne Wade explains it, but LeBron stopped playing cards when he found out his cookies were taken. And it's like...

That's a real. So this is from the underground lounge. This was the first moment where I had an inkling that LeBron may not be back. One thing you don't do is fuck with LeBron cookies. No, no, no. Like he loves chocolate chip cookies, like chocolate, chocolate chip cookies and ice cream he loves. Right. And so when he gets on a plane, Brian walks on a plane with a bag of food.

One bag is all cookies and other bags are what his chef has prepared for him to eat because he eats a certain way. He don't eat what's on the plane. But, you know, he have his cookies. So we get on the plane and we play cards at the front of the plane. We play cards and then at some point Bronco be like, hey, bring me those cookies. And there's one day he was like, hey, where my cookies at? And they had to come up there and whisper his in and tell him there were no more cookies on the plane. That motherfucker sat back away from the game.

He pushed that table, that cards back. He sat there quiet, doing his head like this. I was looking, I'm like... He didn't play cards no more. He sat there like this.

And, Smank, you got to know, if the car gang gets shut down, shit's serious. No, it's serious. If the car gang gets shut down, it's serious. It was too much micromanaging at that point. That's it? I wasn't familiar with LeBron's game. I didn't know he was a bring-his-own-cookies guy. Respect. I mean, I would quit. I would quit if I were LeBron. I don't blame him for walking away from the heat for this. That's the most—like, I would rather someone—

Come and pat me on the head, like patronizing words to take someone to take another man's cookies. You're basically saying there are four year old that didn't eat their vegetables. Yeah, you're calling them fat. I'm upset for LeBron. This story pissed me off. Pat Riley, bad guy, real bad guy. What if they just ate them all?

What if they were so good, the flight attendants had them, it got out of hand, no more cookies? You'd think they would say that, though. I mean, it sounded like Dwayne Wade had it down pat that it was Pat Riley. Because remember, this also matches with the heat culture where they weigh him every day and all that stuff.

Max, you agree. I think they're probably shitty cookies. What? Yeah. You don't think that if he has a chef making his dinner, he doesn't have a chef making his cookies? But I think his chef making his dinner, that's because he only eats specific healthy shit. Why would he get shitty cookies? So that he's probably getting almond flour cookies and stuff. No. I feel like that's his vice. No, I think that's his vice. I think the chef is probably making the best cookies possible, and I...

I know that this sounds ridiculous because people are like, dude, you're really upset about this. I'm upset about this. It's the most I've ever been a LeBron fan. And the ice cream makes you think that it's... Yeah. Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth. Yeah, he's got a sweet tooth. Okay, okay. Not a crime. I take it back. If anyone ever took my cookies, oh my God, I would lose it. I've been eating so many Girl Scout cookies. I was supposed to... I bought a bunch.

I've still been thinking about the same the same short scenes cookies that he brought in. Those were so good. Shout out his wife. The Girl Scout cookies in my house. We bought a bunch because my little cousin is a Girl Scout. And so she came over and gave us a bunch. And then I was like, all right, I'm gonna bring him to the office.

And I just haven't been bringing them to the office. I've just been mowing them down box by box. It's crazy. I discovered some Thin Mints in my freezer from last year. You think those are still good? Yeah. Okay, good. I actually think there was a clip going viral that was like, Thin Mints are essentially not food.

I don't care. Yeah. I love whenever they do that. Whenever you see the video and they have the blowtorch, like, watch, this Oreo doesn't go on fire. You know what? Don't care. Yeah. We left this Big Mac on the counter for three months, and it still looks exactly the same. All right. There's some shit that I think they should probably fix. But in terms of cookies, I don't care. I know when you're eating a cookie, you're not eating a cookie being like, this is good for me.

You're opting into bad stuff. So it could be as bad as possible. I don't give a fuck. Do I want the bread to be better? Sure. Cookies?

I'm fine. So the big question I have, though, LeBron has been so good at curating and managing his public image throughout the years. How come he didn't talk about this? Everyone would have been on his side. If he had just said, hey, Miami, great, you know, five years or whatever it was, four years, won two titles. Pat Riley took my cookies. I got to go. Yeah, that's it. Everyone would be like, yeah, you know what?

He actually should go revisionist history and be like, Dan Gilbert took my cookies and that's why I made the initial move to my... And then he promised me that he would let me have my cookies again, so I came back. All right. The other thing I had...

Jordan would never allow his cookies to be taken. No. That's the thing. That's the difference. He would keep that on his purse. Yeah, absolutely. Bad OPSEC by LeBron letting another man touch your cookies to begin with. You can't let them out of your sight. Yeah. Whenever I'm bored, I love scrolling through homes online, and the Redfin app makes it so easy.

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His show. It does feel like the sport in general knows that March is coming because we had an insane buzzer beater in the Michigan State game. We had great finishes in Kentucky and Oklahoma and Texas and Arkansas. Villanova. Temple. Temple. That was a great finish. PFT. I was watching this game because crazy, I bet on it. But the Temple game...

The guy goes to take a, on the baseline, a buzzer beater, maybe like two seconds left. He gets blocked by all three USF guys and their momentum carries him. He just grabs the block and then hits the shot. Let me see here. It was crazy. Or two. Boom. That's pretty incredible. Needed overtime bad there. That was heartbreak. I'm excited for conference tournament week. My favorite week of the year.

It's going to be great. Yeah. So the stories I had, one was, I don't know if you saw, but Danny Hurley had a very funny moment where the media asked him about the press and he said, the press has been an asshole to me all year. And then the guy was like, I'm talking about the press on the court when a team presses you. Yeah. Which has also been an asshole. Yeah, which has also been an asshole. I also have a new thing because at this podcast, we talked about

Cal being on the hot seat a lot.

Probably can't do that right now because he's, you know, first year at Arkansas. Got paid a lot of money. They actually got a big win. They should potentially be in the tournament. But I'm addicted to any time Kentucky wins a game just saying that's a game Cal would have lost. Yeah. And last night I got in a real tricky spot because Kentucky won and I said that's a game Cal would have lost. And then five minutes later, Cal beat Texas in overtime and I was like,

Great job by Cal. That's a game Cal usually loses. But I think that's what we have to say. It doesn't have to make sense. Cal won a lot of games.

But every game that Kentucky wins, we just got to be like, that's a game Cal would have lost. Yeah, I mean, if they score, if they really fill it up and they win by 20, that's a game Cal would have won. But if it comes down to X's nose, Cal would have lost it. And it is very funny because it pisses people off because they're like, you know Cal won an insane amount of games. Like, yeah, I'm aware, but the ones he lost...

That was one of the ones he would have lost. Yeah, I like that. I like that take. Let's just run with it. It's just anytime Kentucky's in a close game, you just say, that's a game Cal would have lost. I like it. There's another piece of news from the NFL. Okay. They're going to start using Hawkeye technology. Oh, yeah, I saw that. So for first downs next year, they're going to have the chain gang on the sideline to use as a backup just in case, but they're going to do like tennis does, and they're going to say, first down, no first down, based on technology. Okay. Which...

I like the chain gang. I don't want to turn NFL into a computer simulation. I like having the guys run out on the field with a chain. There's something nice about seeing a 70-year-old man trot out there very slowly, and then they measure it, then the official gets real close, holds up his hands. I like that part of the game. I have a question, and this comes from a place of love because I do love Bill's Mafia. I love Josh Allen. Everyone knows that. Uh...

What happens if the Bills actually win a Super Bowl? Will we just get no new rules? Because all our new rules are just whenever the Bills lose to the Chiefs, we make a new rule. Yeah, that's pretty much how it's done. They're also thinking about changing overtime. Again. Again. Troy Vincent said it's time to re-examine the overtime rules, which sucks because...

It takes us two years to really learn overtime and be able to spot it off the top of our head. If you were to ask me on a Wednesday during NFL season, what is the NFL's overtime policy? It takes me a year to get confident, to just have that information. And then they change it. And then they're going to have to put that big graphic up before overtime. It's not going to make any sense to me. Yeah.

Yeah, here are the overtime rules. All right, what else? Oh, also for college basketball, I think they should change the rules. We're talking about changing rules. I think we should ban fouling up three. I don't know how they could do it. I like the idea of maybe if you foul up three, they get three shots. So just like really high pressure, three free throws. But there's nothing worse than in a game where a team is up three and it just becomes a foul fest.

And you lose out on, like, awesome moments. Yeah, it's intentionally breaking a rule while you're leading that game. Right. Doesn't sit right with me. Right. So I don't know. And also people don't understand follow-up three. It's like a concept. There's a lot of people who are like,

That's why you got to follow up three when a team will hit a shot with like 10 seconds left. It's like, no, you don't follow up three with 10 seconds left. What's the time zone that you hit it in? I think it's usually like five to two seconds, kind of. I think Oregon hit a three against Wisconsin on Saturday to tie the game. There was eight seconds left. And Rothstein was like, that's why you got to follow up three. It's like, no.

That's not why you foul up. My favorite thing to do at the end of the game is no matter how much time is left, no matter what the lead is, I just like to say you don't need a two or you don't need a three here. Yeah. You can get a two here. You usually can. You usually get an easy two because they're playing three-point defense. You just run to the – when would you foul up three, Max? It's like five seconds, maybe less. No, I think – I don't hate fouling up. Especially Wisconsin. Wisconsin should be fouling up three early because they're the best free throw shooting team of all time.

I don't know, but if you follow up three with ten seconds left, there's so many possessions left. But you just got to trust your... If you're that good of a free throw shooting team, you got to trust your free throws. That's all you got to do. Yeah, I just like seeing games have thrilling endings instead of games. It depends on the team. If you're a shitty free throw shooting team, you probably never foul up three. Yeah, yeah, true, true. But I'm ready for madness. That Michigan State...

I felt bad for our friend Scott Van Pelt. I think that was right in his eye. Yeah. He was courtside. I think it might be Izzo season. Oh, yeah. He said these guys are playing for Michigan State. That's all they care about. Love it. I know he's feeling it. Love it. There's another little tidbit here, Max, I'd like to get your take on from Steph No. Steph No did some research.

And he came to the conclusion that Paul George played better this season right after he dropped podcasts. And now he's not podcasting anymore. So games directly following a podcast, he averaged 17.1 points per game with no podcast.

Down to 16 points per game. It also sounds like he just never wants to podcast again. So what happened? Paul George just quit his podcast because the Sixers suck? He said until they are contending for a championship. Zero Dark Thirty. That was just a way of him being like, I don't want to podcast anymore. Yeah, it's not for everybody. Now, the craziest one is his three-point percentage. In a game where there's no podcast before, he shoots 31.9%. In a game after a podcast drops, he shoots 42%.

42.9%. You've got to get him podcasting again. So he shoots 11% better from three directly after dropping a podcast. I'm done with Paul George. That's my take. Wait, even next year? Maybe. We'll see. Wow, season's over. That's what I'm saying. I don't care. I'm opting out of all Sixers news. Oh, all of it. I refuse to let you opt out.

Yeah, we don't agree. The season is over. I just want to fast forward to the end of the season. Do you think when somebody does a deep dive into the analytics of Podcast P and his game, you think we're not going to bring that up to you? No, yeah, I understand. We have to talk about it. Yeah, you are trying to be Paul George. You're trying to not do a podcast. Yeah, you could say that. What could make you guys take a break from podcasting? Is there anything? Oh, Hank, that's weird. Why would you ask that right before golf season starts? I think if I played for the Sixers. That was such a loaded question.

No, it's weather. 50 degrees. Topical. Topical to your life. Yeah. Oh, my God. All right. No, no, no. We were driving to Indy on Tuesday, and after about 10 minutes on the road, Hank just looks to the side of the road and looks at me and smiles. I'm like, you motherfucker. He was just looking at the road that he takes to go to his golf club, and he was just thinking about getting out there with the sticks. So we asked the question again. What would take us to stop podcasting?

Paul George stopped podcasting to focus on a championship. Nothing. Is there anything that you guys would stop podcasting to focus on? Sorry, that's apparently about me, and I want you guys to stop podcasting. Never. I would never stop. No. I would only stop podcasting to focus on the podcast. I would only stop podcasting to focus on Hank's golf game. I had a bunch of people coming up to me last week saying that I was the new Hank. What does that mean? Because you took a vacation. Because I was on vacation. Oh, and you win? Yeah.

And you're a winner now. And you're a winner. I didn't even think about it like that. Wow. It could have been that. Yeah. I am planning my next vacation just for... Yeah. Hank has low-key kind of become the new Max. How so? He hasn't won anything in a while. He won... In a while. Almost a full year. Literally...

The second closest. Wait, no, the third closest. The third closest. Yeah, yeah. What would take you to stop podcasting, Hank? Nothing. I'd never stop. I love that about you. You guys stopping, though, would make me stop. I could never podcast without you guys. Oh, I love that. Appreciate that, Hank. I love that. But yeah, also on the drive up or down to Indy, Max just...

treated us like we were five years old yeah that's not true yeah it is you called and you said hey do you guys think that you'll be on time you you called left yet yeah you called and asked if i had left yet because you're like it might you might miss the first interview guys leave yet that's a fact we probably have the footage you the last i had spoken to you

You told me that you were leaving at a different time. I said as I was going through the drive, I was like time as I was going through the drive. I was like, if he left left at the time, he told me he was going to leave. He may not be there on time. What time did you call, though? I don't know. I can check my. But you know me pretty well, Max. I am not someone who's late to things or who like fucks up time things.

I understand that. I was just... I was getting anxious in my own brain about what I would do if you guys weren't... Like, if Liam Cohn showed up and it was just me, I was getting anxious about what I was going to do in that moment. Okay, I wouldn't do the pod on your own? Yeah. Just do it yourself. It was... You were a little bro. And then... No, not little bro-ing. That was my own anxiety taking over. What day? This was Tuesday...

All right. Yeah, it was exactly 20 minutes after he told me. But that wasn't a like, have you left yet? That was more of a... You said, have you left yet? I know, but that was poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. Sometimes I have poor wording. I just wanted to know what the status was. The status was we were going to be on time. Correct. But I wanted to make sure I was, you know... Have you guys been duped by any fake Epstein logs?

I know it's in the... Shout out the bro, Hyen, I think is his Twitter name. Rudy. No, Rudy. That one was real. Rudy was on the plane. He just said, wow, here's the Epstein log. This is crazy. It was just the Packers depth chart, and I got like four names down. I was like, oh, wow, this is fucked for them. Like, wait a second. I like that. All right. We have anything else? Anything before we get to Shefty? Great interview with Shefty.

Any other national sports podcast news? It's going to be March soon. It's going to be March on Saturday. NBA Central. Oh, yeah. Free NBA Central. So they get suspended? I don't know. I don't think it's free them. Why? Because they had two months to declare themselves a parody account, and they just didn't. They're not a parody. They're Central. Yeah, you got to kind of just do that, right? Yeah. I mean, it's a parody account, so it's like all you have to do is declare yourself a parody account. I thought humor was legal now.

What about free speech? Or legalizing comedy? Okay, so don't free him? I mean, I would like him back. No, I say free him. He would get me all the time. I would get got all the time. Was the one that I said on the podcast is like the big nuts, the testicle jewelry one? Yeah, he was like,

Draymond Green buys like $400,000 gold testicles. I was like, damn, that's crazy. I can't believe Hank's taking the side of big tech. You're blaming Central. Central is a vital part of the sports ecosystem. No, I mean, I think it's like if you're a parody account and they say if you want to, you know, you can be a parody account. You just have to declare yourself as a parody account. If you don't, we're going to take your account down. Yeah. Hold on. I got to take this call.

Hey, we're... It's Jerry O.C. Hey, Jerry. We're about to... Hey, Jerry, it's Hank from PMT. We're recording right now. We're about to get to the Schefter interview. I gotta ask. You were joking... That was for the show, right? What do you mean? No.

Listen to the Schefter interview. Jerry, why are you getting upset? You don't even know what Schefter said. Yeah, the people listening right now don't even know what Schefter said. Guys, don't do it to me. Just don't do it to me. Let me cook. Let me cook on my own, please. Let me cook on my own. I just, I don't want... If you're going to have Schefter and...

Ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha!

Just listen to what we talked about with Schefter, and then we'll talk after. Don't do it to me, guys. Just be open-minded. What did Schefter say about the Giants? Because I got to tell you, I saw a post that Aaron Rodgers might go there, and I'm not mad at that. Yeah. Listen, no one's listened to the Schefter interview yet because we're taping right now, and this is right before we get to Schefter. That's a good tease for the Giants. Yeah.

No, it wasn't. Jerry, I need you to not flip out until you actually hear the words that he said in the interview. I'm saying it with my chest, Jerry. I'm telling you to just contain yourself until you listen to the interview. You might be whistling a different tune. You are begging right now.

I think we've got to take these cookies away. I have a question about the Jaguars GM. Was that AI that child who did the press conference? It might be. It might be. Listen, just listen to the Chef D interview. There's a great promo for the Chef D interview, and we'll discuss afterwards, okay?

Okay. All right, we've heard your demands. Just listen to it with an open mind, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

He'll be like, you just take care of it. Worked out on the golf course. All right, Jerry. We'll talk to you later. Oh, man. He's mad. People forget we did a closest to the pin with Jerry, and he stayed on the simulator for six hours. It's true. Likes golf. Also, it just dawned on me. You know who won our fantasy league last year? Who? Jordan Schultz. Oh! There it is. Yeah.

So maybe team them up. That was a tough Venmo to send. Yeah. Team them up. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Shefty where we do discuss maybe a shuffle in the organization that we have going on with our fantasy football operation. We're examining everything to deliver a winner. Yeah. There's been no decisions made. Jerry needs to understand that. He's probably listening to this right now. Jerry, we have not made any decisions. We're exploring all options. It would be wrong of us to...

As owners of the team to not explore every avenue to make us better. We're custodians of a very important franchise. Right. And we take that very seriously. And frankly, Jerry's reaction to not having any news at all about this is concerning to me. Yeah. That was the third phone call we've had with him in the last 25 minutes. He hung up on us twice. He seems a bit unstable. He seems a bit unstable.

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Okay, we now welcome on our very good friend. It is Adam Schefter, ESPN Insider. This is maybe sixth straight year we've done this? I was going to ask you how many straight years we've now done this. It's been a lot. It's a combine tradition of having Schefter on. And I didn't hear from you until Monday. I didn't even reach out. I knew you were good. I was. We were getting all of our ducks in a row and then I hit you up and I was like, hey, can you do this time? You're like, yeah, I'll do whatever. Yeah, what took you so long? Yeah. And...

It's become such a tradition. I said this before, and I really mean this. There's not a week that goes by where somebody doesn't stop me and say, I don't love the Adam Schefter podcast. I'd never hear that. But I love listening to you on PMT. I love that. That's the best compliment we can get. Nobody stopped me yet to say, I love you on the Adam Schefter podcast. No one from Adam. Yeah. You changed the name. I changed it. You lost the audience when they tuned in for the name. That's a basic Adam Schefter podcast. But-

Stopped on a regular basis. Yeah. Love you on PMT. So hopefully. I love that. We're going to make the people happy today and give them what they want. Very cool. So I have a very, very important question to ask you first. It's a multi-layered question. Let's start with this. You have two phones. Yeah. How new are they? When did you get them? Well, it's funny you ask that because literally this is my primary phone right here in my lap. And this is my secondary phone, which is the two phones I carry.

And one of them is, they're two different carriers, providers. I have been ordering a new phone and it showed up from ESPN yesterday. Okay. And my son is like, why do they keep sending you old phones? And I called up to speak to somebody. I'm like, what's the deal? Like, it's always two models behind. Right, right. And so they said, that's just how we do it. Okay. So how long? So you have a new phone. How long have you had the phone that you're switching out?

Too long. How long? Three, four years. Okay. So I asked that question because I'm sure you saw our mutual friend Woj selling some of his old phones. I am willing to offer, I think, unlimited amount of money to buy the Miles Garrett assault phone from you.

I don't know which, I don't know if you can pinpoint exactly which phone that is, but I want that. We can try. Let's see. I want to put it, I want to frame it. I want to put it in our studio. This would be the phone. I need that. Hold on. That would be the phone? This would be the phone. So. Name your price. Name your price. Well, do we get to donate it to a charity? Now, fuck the charity. I don't know about that. They just want this phone. Ha ha.

Does it get a prominent spot? Yes, we can donate to a charity. Yes, we'll put it. I want it framed and I want it to be like, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from. Okay, 11-15-2019. Oh, so that might not be the phone. So five, yeah, about five years ago. I'm not, listen.

We know that we have to get this right because if we buy the wrong phone and everyone's going to be like, are you sure that's the phone? It would have to be authenticated. Yeah. So do you think there's a phone that you have maybe in your office that's the other phone that was the assault phone? I really believe that this is the assault phone. Okay. All right. Well, we'll have to authenticate it, but we will donate to charity to get this in our studio. And then also- Yeah, framed, everything. And then you can also throw in maybe the phone that has the Dez Bryant tape on it.

So we'll do that. We'll do a two for one. That one, you got to keep the tape on it, though. We'll have it just playing on loop in our studio. We do need to do some forensic analysis of the phone. Yeah, that's fine. But you're willing to negotiate for charity? 100%. Whatever you say. You get to wipe the phone. We'll put it up. And it just says, this is the phone that Adam Schefter tweeted assault from when Miles Garrett committed assault.

It would be my honor to give you this phone. This is huge. There should be like a Hall of Fame section in the Barstool office. We have a Ray Allen phone that he tweeted that thing out. That would be nice. Yes, we have the Will Compton Museum in one of the bathrooms. And listen, I'll also extend this courtesy to you. Whenever you want to come visit your phone, you have free right to come and visit your phone.

Yeah, that's huge. Charged admission for people to touch it. You can't put a price on that. People taking pictures of the phone. So wait, you have two different carriers? Do you do that just in case like AT&T blows up for a day? No, just in case like it's amazing how often I'm in one spot and I don't have reception on one phone, but I do on another. There's a road near my house that this phone loses reception every time, but this one keeps it.

So you're always on the grid. It's weird. But this one, the primary one, it's really acting up. And we got free agency in a couple of weeks here. And I do not trust this phone. This phone is literally on its last legs. It's a time bomb. And I'm working with Disney and they sent me a 15.

Model 15 and my son's like you need a 16. I'm like why I don't understand it. Yeah, I'm not smart enough tech wise He's like more processors better chips. Okay, so I think I'm going to Apple this weekend to buy the 16 and if and when I do that I

and transfer over everything. You'll give me the address. Yep, that's ours. You give us the charity and we'll do it. I'll ship you this phone. I love it. And you can hang it on the wall. Yes. I love it. Speaking of Miles Garrett, let's talk about Miles Garrett real quick. So is he going to be traded? There are so many complicating factors with that, right? If you trade him, first of all, they've been very steadfast in saying we're not trading him. That's number one.

Number two, if they do trade him, there's like a $36 million cap charge that gets accelerated. So it's hard to trade him. It's hard to do it from a financial standpoint. You don't know if there's a team out there that's even willing to give up what it would take. So there are a whole slew of factors. Now we've seen in recent years, any number of players go from wanting to be traded to signing extensions. I know this is not money-based, but Lamar Jackson wanted to be traded, dropped that

Right before John Harbaugh was having breakfast with the reporters at the owners' meetings a couple of years ago, and he wound up signing a month or so later. Debo Samuel, Brandon Aiyuk, we can go on and on. Again, I would think eventually, maybe he'll...

soften up because the Browns feel like they're unwilling to move him. It would take a change. Now, the Bears or the Raiders at one point in time were like, we're not trading Khalil Mack. We're not trading Khalil Mack. We're not trading Khalil Mack. September 1st of that year, after weeks and months had passed, they traded Khalil Mack to the Bears. Yes. So if they do trade him, what do you think the ballpark compensation is? And give us the teams that are going to be hot and heavy for him. Well,

If you go back and look at what the Bears gave up for Khalil Mack. It was two firsts. It was a third, a fifth. It was a bunch of – to me, that's the most fair comp there is out there right now. You could look across the league, and I could tell you that there are 31 teams aside from Cleveland that could use Myles Garrett. Realistically, I think you're looking at a contender that needs a pass rusher.

That it could make a huge difference. Buffalo would be unbelievable. Washington would be unbelievable. You're a contender. Yeah, contender. Right? How does it feel? How does it feel when we say Washington contender? It makes me feel tingly. Contender. I don't see it. The thing about Washington is...

They were a great team. They were fun to watch last year. I love the direction the team's going, and Dan Quinn did a great job. Adam Peters seems to know what he's doing. But the roster needs a lot of upgrades. I don't know that you can say that we're one piece away just because we got to the NFC Championship game. The roster across the board, they have to go out and find all these replacements. So while, yes, I would love Miles Garrett, I feel like the compensation is going to be huge.

Very, very rich. Absolutely. And that's even if they do trade him, which right now they say they're not going to. But Jaden Daniels, like you are set up for the next 12 to 15 years. Don't say that. That's a long time.

But that's what it should be. I hope. I hope. I hope that you're right. Because we were in these chairs not but four years ago when you did the meanest thing you've ever done to me and you put Carson Wentz inside my brain and you knew what you were doing. Is there anything that you've heard this week? Maybe if you want to just say Debo repeatedly to me to make me feel good about the chances of getting Debo Samuel. I could see them being interested in Debo Samuel. And I think that there is a market for Debo Samuel that's probably a little bit stronger than people thought it would be. And I think the 49ers are...

Going to be able to trade him. Okay. What else are the 49ers going to do? Because it feels like they're a team in heavy transition. They have to probably shed a couple other players. Who else is someone that you might... I mean, is Brock Purdy going to get signed? Are they going to let him play out the rest of this contract? Here's the issue. They are in such a difficult cap situation that it's going to impact all sorts of things. So I think with Brock Purdy, here's the thing that people have to remember. He's got a year left on his deal. Right.

And so the Niners can offer him a package and say, here's what we're willing to do, whatever that is. And then is it going to be the Dak Prescott contract? It's not. I don't expect it to be. Right. Is it going to be a fair contract? I would think it would be. They have to pay him. He's worthy and deserving of a big contract. But what is that deal? And that's going to be one of the questions. They've got so many financial issues and so many things they have to do and need to do that –

you're not going to be able to pay Brock Purdy, Dak Prescott. You can find a deal for Brock Purdy, but, and I'm sure his agent wouldn't like this, but if Brock Purdy doesn't like that deal, like I don't know how far the Niners can go. And then the Niners can just say, okay, guess what?

We have your rights this year for $5 million. We could franchise tag you next year for $40 million. That's $45 million over the next two years that they have as contractual rights for. Is that fair? No. Right. But that's the way it is right now. Yeah. And so it's a tough spot. So there's a deal to be had for both sides that's fair.

But how do you work through that and figure it out? In general, I feel like teams don't use the franchise tag as often as you think. Some teams view it as a weapon and some teams would rather not do it. And this year, I don't know what the record is for fewest number of players who are tagged, but this year we're looking at Tee Higgins.

And maybe that might be the only one that we get this year. Yeah, I know Trey Murphy was thrown around, but that would be, I think, the Chiefs. Trey Smith. Yeah. On Kansas City. Byron Murphy. Minnesota can't be tagged. Trey Smith may be a transition tag. I don't think that happens. But you're not going to get more than, at most, two tags this year. So do you think that – because the franchise tag, it does feel like teams –

They use it as kind of a, hey, we could do this, but they don't use it very often. Do you think there's any way that when they get to the negotiating table, they get rid of the franchise tag or adjust it and change it? Well, here's the thing. In the next couple of years, at some point in time, the NFLPA is going to have a chance to go to the bargaining table, and the NFL is going to very badly want that 18th

regular season game. It's already worked into the 2027 Super Bowl. 2027 is played on presence. Yeah. It's already there. Yeah. Because you know what's going to happen here? What's going to happen is they're going to eventually, I believe, no matter how much the NFLPA is objected, I think that they're wise to say what they've done.

They get to an 18-game schedule, and then the league can take a 12, 14, 16-game international package and sell that. We heard this. I hate this idea. I'm just telling you. Can you tell the league not to do this? So the idea would be that there would be every single week, there would be a standalone 9.30 in the morning game. Maybe not every week, but-

Plenty of weeks. Can you tell them alternatively what they should do is they should do a hybrid of the college football model and have East Coast games start at noon, local time, and then there's another four games that kick off at 315, and then there's another two or three games that kick off at 6 o'clock, and then Sunday night football at 830. That's what we want. We want there to be... There's no break in the football. You just have overlapping windows. You have four windows, and you don't have the 930 because that game...

It's just – Have you thought about throwing your name into the ring to succeed Roger Goodell when he decides to step down as a commissioner? It's a real issue because on Sunday you wake up. We as football fans have about like a three or four hour time span there where we can act like normal functioning adults. Get all your pets in. You can do some sort of chore. You can spend time with a family or with a dog, act like you are a real human being, and then you sit down on the couch.

for nine hours nonstop. But when you take away that Sunday morning, then it's just like, oh, I don't have Sundays. By the way, from my standpoint, we have the pregame show. They're not thinking about us. They're not thinking about you. Here's the thing. Nothing about us. What Roger Goodell's got to understand, he doesn't understand gamblers. And

The reason why college football, like a college football Saturday, is more fun to bet on is because you have multiple time slots. Staggered. Staggered because a lot of people, not naming names, myself, will load up on the first time slot and will be like, all right, if we can get some wins, then we're going to go to the next one. So you have people betting throughout the day.

With only the two time slots, you know, listen, if he wants to bring me on as a special advisor for degenerate gamblers, I'm more than welcome to do it. He should. Yeah. Clearly. Because there is the potential for that whole new window of international games, another

broadcast package to sell. I think that's where it's going to go. He's not thinking about, he's not thinking about, you know what he's not thinking about? He's not thinking about marriages and relationships in America because listen, a couple, a couple of the nine 30 games you can get away with being like, Oh yeah, they're playing in Germany. They've never done this before. Every fucking Sunday. If I have to be at eight 30 in the morning in central time being like, Oh yeah, there's another game.

By the way, like they added the Thursday night. There's Monday night now, like Friday night last year. So I can't tell you how many times I've said to my wife, there's a game tonight. Yeah. Which I love. I'm just saying the PFT is right. We all have like two or three hours on Sunday to get our brains ready to go, fired up, look at the board.

You start a game early. Yeah, it's just so we can pretend to have a real life on Sunday. We don't. We don't have a real life. Walk the dog. Yeah, you get up. How many pets are going to die because Roger Goodell is going to insist on taking away all of our Sundays? I mean, I say to my wife every Sunday morning, it's like, don't worry, I got the kids till 11. And I feel like a hero and she sees right through it and she's like, and then at 11? You know what else I don't want? I don't want the Super Bowl in London.

No, that will be un-American. I actually... Shefty, you better get that stopped. Well, if you succeed, Roger Goodell, you can be the man that gets it done, Big Chat. Shefty, if there's a Super Bowl in London, we are going to be so fucking pissed. We won a war so that we don't have to play a Super Bowl in London. Okay? We're not doing this shit. They're going to try to put it in though, right? That's one of the next ones up. They say there's no international Super Bowl on the horizon. I think...

At some point in our lifetimes, I think there'll be an international show. I hope he's right. But it doesn't sound like it's anytime soon. Enough is enough. But Goodell wants it so badly. All right, let's get some of the fun stuff. Shefty, New Year's Eve 2024.

You send off a very nice in memoriam tweet where you honor those that we lost in the year 2024. How many different edits did you go through to figure out where to put OJ Simpson's name in the middle so that nobody saw that OJ was in there? I went back and forth on that. I mean, I always, I don't know what it is, but every year I keep a file that

of people who lost their lives. Like I'm just fascinated by it. And I just think that it's a way to pay respect to people who have lost their lives. And so I keep a running. Do you have any notes on them?

No. Okay. No, I literally have it on my computer at home. Yeah. And I add like a death file. So Virginia McCaskey is the first entrant in the death file for 2025 RIP. She's not the first one in this year. Oh, who was the first? I think my dog, Benny. Oh, you fucking asshole. RIP, Benny. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, sad to hear that. That's such bullshit. You just did that to me. Benny. Yeah. Blake, Stella, you understand, right? Yeah. Yeah. How old was Benny?

Benny was 15 and... Oh, that's awesome. And... So Benny actually in dog years was older than Virginia McCaskey. Benny, yeah, he was close. Pretty crazy, yeah. We have an 18-year-old at home. Wow. Who's blind and deaf. And we have another 15-year-old that...

named Bailey that I don't know, four months ago, the doctors recommended, she couldn't walk anymore. And the doctors recommended we put her down and she was so mentally alert and aware, my wife and I were like, we're not putting her down. And

She's regained some of her ability to walk. She kind of walks like a crab now. That's awesome. She craps in the house all the time. She can't get outside. But she's our dog. Stella had diagnosed with kidney disease when she was like 10 or 11. And one of the vets was like, yeah, she's probably got six months to a year. And she's...

We're three years past that. And it's like, once you get to the 13, 14, you're like, this has been an awesome run. I know it's, it's. Benny on February 23rd last year, I was sitting at my kitchen table and he came hobbling in like he were like, what the heck happens? We watched the ring camera and he went to jump up the step in the back into our house and he missed it and he couldn't walk. So I took him to the vet, um,

they did some x-rays didn't find anything to go to another vet they did an MRI and they they came out and they're like he's got a torn ACL okay and we also found cancer in his liver that spread to his lungs and I said you know I mean I'll never forget it um the doctor called us I was with my wife for hysterical and like how long he goes I'd say two to three months and that was February 23rd wow and

He made it for almost a full year. The last conversation I had with Chris Mortensen, I called him because I was so distraught over Benny. I called him on a Thursday. Like I was broken up and then Mort passed away on Saturday, which was, or Sunday morning. Um,

You guys have dogs. Yeah. No, I know. Dogs are the best. They are the best. They are family. They're your children. We have four now. We'll always have dogs, love dogs. The one I always think about is the quote Peter King had, even though he still owes us money. He said that the only way to not feel the pain of a dog passing is to never own a dog. And what a sad life that would be.

That's it. You can just not own a dog, but you don't get all the joy of it. RIP, Benny. A moment of silence for Benny. Thank you. Good dog. So why did you have OJ in that? Back to that. Let me ask you, would you have left him out?

He played football. Now, he did have 2,000 yards in the season. Yeah. 14 games. And he did die. Separate the art from the artist. He did die. Now, on the other hand, he committed double murder. So I'm going to say. That's a toss up. He's found not guilty, though, of double murder. But he did do that. Right. But he blocked me on Twitter. That's true. So, yeah. No, I would leave him out. You leave him out because he wouldn't see it anyways. He's got to be blocked. Maybe a separate tweet.

Being like, and also not rest in peace. You know what? The amazing thing is, is like, I'm like, the guy died. He did die. He had an accomplished life, good and bad. Yes. So he was, I didn't think anything of it. And then all of a sudden I'm like, oh, controversy. Well, it was just that it was, it was hidden in the middle, which was the right move. If you're going to have it. Was it chronological? It's always sequential. Oh.

Oh. It's always sequential. So what you should have done – I keep a running list. I take that list and I just post the list. I try to honor the people we lost. Here's what you should have done because this is a running bit with us when people say, you know, J.J. Watt is such a better person than he is a football player. And we're like, no, he's not. He was one of the best football players ever. There's no way he's one of the best humans ever. That's no offense to him. But you should have just said –

OJ Simpson significantly better football player than person. Or I could have put OJ Simpson asterisk. Yeah. Maybe not dead. Asterisk. No, actually, no. Because I never asterisked anybody that lost their life in that year. Yeah. So I could have asterisked any of the classifications that you want. Maybe you do a separate post for the people who have died who were also murderers. Yeah, right.

The asterisk could also be like OJ Simpson still like what would be like his war is still like plus one because he took two lives. Katie ratio. Yeah. That's something like that. We can workshop it if that comes. You let me know. You know what? I'll send this upcoming years. Was Aaron Hernandez in the end of the year? Oh, how long have we been doing this?

This death file is pretty fucked up. You know what? What I used to be able to do, it would, you know what? Instagram, you could post as many names as you want. Right. So Twitter, I think there was a limit. Yeah. And what year was Aaron Hernandez? It would have been roughly 12 years ago. It was a long time ago.

I don't know if it was posting names back then. Would have not had the death file. We avoided the issue back then. The other thing I really wanted to bring up with you about some year and some small missteps. I feel like it was a pretty clean year for you overall. It was a pretty good year. Yeah. Were you illegally streaming the Jets-Texans game on meth streams? You know what's amazing about that? Good question, PFT. Is that I believe it was the Malachi-Corley play, correct? Where he fumbled? Yep. Okay. So...

I had this app where you could take the video, put it in there, and get the video. And in this particular play, I kept waiting for the NFL to post the video right away. And it took a long time. It wasn't posting. So I'm looking, I'm looking. I see the video. On mass streams. Actually, I'm thinking of the sequence now.

I used to do it that way. And then Field Yates, who now we're going to have to blame him. We're throwing Field under the bus? Yeah, absolutely. We're going to throw Field. He said, let me show you something. If you just press. Yeah, it's very easy. Press. Download. I'm trying to think which came first. Not even press download, but just press post video. Yeah.

That's what happened. Field show me after the fact. Okay. This is a long answer for just you watching Mestreams. Are you in the Mestreams chat? Can you edit this answer to make it more succinct? I'm not used to speaking this much out of turn. Okay. Now I have the sequence. So I see it. I'm waiting for the NFL to post it. It doesn't post it. I finally see...

Somebody post it. I copy the link. I put it in the app. I get the video I post it and the next thing I know I'm getting besieged with messages. Yeah about meth meth dreams Yeah, well the meth dreams it was a refuge for those of us that didn't want to pay for all the different packages you have to do and now they shut down they shut it down because you Like to think that journalists are Crusaders and we're here to right the wrongs in the world and

And so there were a lot of people that were illegally streaming on meth and they shouldn't be on meth anyway. Nobody should be on meth. And so therefore, within my powers, I took it to squash meth, which to this day, I get pissed off messages in my DM sometimes from people like, you ruined meth. You ruined it.

But I feel like I'm trying to help people out. They shouldn't be on meth. People shouldn't be on meth. But the great part was the next day, I'm seeing people, they're like, Adam Schefter's trying to find ways around paying the $8.99 Amazon. Like, hey, can I tell you something? Can I tell you what my wife orders from Amazon? Like five, six times a day, $8.99. I mean, that is just laughable that I'm trying to find. And I am so far...

from being equipped or smart enough to figure out a go around to avoid like... But really it's Field Yates fault. Yeah. And also... So then afterwards, Field Yates said, let me just show you how to do something. All you do is press down the video, it credits the people and then you can just post the video. Yeah. So Field deserves credit for that. I wish he had shown it to me before I could actually...

be the one responsible for taking down meth. And he thinks the lady doth protest too much. Yeah, I think you were doing some meth. You were on meth. You strike me as a meth guy. You don't sleep much. I never knew any of this existed until after the fact when I'm getting all these text messages. Yeah, this is a lot of... I think it's breaking badum. I think that's what it is. I think that you are...

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I can tell you this. I think that time-honored tradition is dead. I think I'm not doing it ever again. Okay. So you are washed? No. Well, younger Adam Schefter would be like, if there's a scoop, I'm going to get it. We evolve over time. Okay. We evolve, right? Okay. And so I've done it enough that...

There was a posting about this like there was meth like there is with seemingly many things that I do with my life about how Adam Schefter posted about the groundhog day again. Like I thought people kind of liked that. I think it's always interesting. Well, I think it speaks to your addiction to scoops and I like that about you where like is there any scoop you wouldn't take? Because I kind of enjoy when you like drop a random NBA scoop or a rat sees his shadow in Western Pennsylvania. Like that's –

So there's someone out there being like, chef, you got me again. Like this was my fucking- I love information. I love anything that's like, whoa, I didn't know this. Right? So anything like that, whatever it's related to, I'm in. Love that about you. But I think I'm getting out of the Punks to Tawny Phil business. Okay. So you guys got the story first here. I think we're out of that business. We're not doing it. Breaking news. Breaking news. Punks to Tawny Phil will not be seeing his shadow for me anymore. Dude.

Yeah. I just feel like this is you getting out because other people were getting the scoops ahead of time. Like you got bullied out of the groundhog space. That's true too. Like if you can't win, you quit. Is that what people are saying? I just think that, like I said, you know, when the space is becoming crowded. Right. And so when everybody's weighing in on Punxsutawney Phil, it's time for you to go find the

the next avenue to explore. Yeah. Okay. You want to talk more NFL right now? Yeah. Like what's going on in the league? Those are all the fun topics you got from the controversy. I know that. There's more. All right. So when the Luca trade happened, you said that for an NFL comparison, this is like Lamar Jackson plus for Joe Burrow plus. And I thought that you made it seem like there were streaming services. You put like the little plus sign next to it. I don't know if that's a great comparison. You know what? Here's what happened.

You might be right. To me, and I am a big NBA fan, like it's a huge trade, huge. And so you're talking about a veteran and a younger superstar, a guy who's won championships, a guy who I think will win championships. It's just a colossal trade. I was just trying to think of two stars, probably a better analogy. Like literally I was asleep when Shams broke it. So like I'm thinking like, what is this like? I've never seen anything like this.

I came up with that. Some people didn't like it. Okay. Again, upon further reflection, maybe it would be like Dak Prescott for Justin Herbert. Maybe that would be a better one. I don't know. I think the Joe Burrow for...

uh matt stafford was uh yeah that's a good one decent one where it's like the the age like it's you know this isn't bad it's just fun to wonder about it like yeah there's no right or wrong like that was something that came to me as i woke up in bed as i'm laying in bed it was the first saturday night yeah i said i don't have to check on any injuries here for the first time no you don't sleep and i dozed off i wake up i said i'm like what the hell is this like everybody else

And that's what came to me at that moment. Sorry it offended as many people as it did. Thank you for your apology. Not accepted, but I appreciate the fact that you said it. One other fun one. Do you think you should get any credit for dunking on Doug Gottlieb? Because that's like, this isn't a height joke. That's like dunking on like a five foot rim. Everyone can dunk on Doug Gottlieb. You know, he texted me after the fact. And when he texted after that,

I started rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay. It was a rough year rooting for them. No, they're bad. They're really bad. It was a rough year. But I even debated – actually, I tried to go to one of the games and I went through Chicago. The good part was it was like before the Super Bowl. And so I was going to Wisconsin Green Bay. I came through Chicago and I didn't have any clothes. The airlines lost my bag. So I was going through Chicago and I found these two duffel bags.

And was able to drive by, pick up a couple duffel bags, got a bunch of clothes, got some great jump shoots right now. Worked out pretty well. Yeah. Rooting for Wisconsin Green Bay. You did get him good. He said it was a story about Sacramento State raising 50 million in NIL. By the way, by the way, like...

The athletic director told me that. Right. So like he comes like... He responds to that. But is the athletic director telling you that? Is that not like a stripper saying like, I really like you, Adam? Maybe so. Yeah. But the athletic director said it. He did say it. He's the athletic director. He said we had 50 million, which people were like...

Hey, that's not right. Take it up with him. Yeah, take it up with him. Yeah, so Gottlieb said, Jesus, Shefty, edit what agents tell you. 0.0% chance Sacramento State has. What does an agent have to do with that? What agent at Sacramento State has done? And then you said, and Jesus, Doug, a seven-game losing streak and last place in the Horizon League. Less time on social media, more time in the gym. Got him. By the way, like. And then they went on to lose like 14 more games in a row.

You should have updated it. Here's the deal. I try never to clap back. I don't like that. But when people post factually incorrect information, like clean up with the agent, I'm like, no, no. I was talking to the athletic director. This is what he said. What do you want me to do? Okay. Okay.

That's fair. Yeah. Yeah, source off. I think you won the source off, but Big Ed's kind of right. Yeah. Doug Gottlieb, come on. Like, take it easy on him. Yeah, everyone. It's T-ball. He's been through enough in his life. Yeah, we can all take hacks at Doug Gottlieb. We got any news breaking right now? Oh, what do you got? Don't try to, don't do this to us.

Don't fake us. You remember when you faked me out on the Lord James? Actually, big news. Yeah? Yeah. ESPN has re-signed Laura Rutledge to a big deal. Oh, huge. Congrats to Laura. You didn't get that scoop? I didn't get that scoop. That's huge. But you know what?

Laura Relich is a rock star. Yeah, we like Laura. She's fantastic. Yes. She deserves everything she gets, and I'm very happy to see that news. Agreed. Disappointed I didn't get it, but that's the way it goes. Yeah, I was wondering if that was going to be Matt Stafford news. Gun to your head. Matt Stafford's next team. Max. Oh, I don't like. First, I don't like to have guns pointed at my head. A lot of guns. Pug, get the guns up. Che. Where's he playing at him? Makes me very nervous. Che is refusing to put the guns to your head.

I said, Jadis goes, no, no, no way. Where's he playing? I really don't know right now because it's kind of a coin flip kind of thing. You're dead. That was a bad answer. So we believe that he's probably going to either the Giants or probably re-sign with the Rams. Those are the two...

plausible scenarios okay i think the raiders are out there lurking as well okay i think those would be the three scenarios that make sense and honestly i think it changes on a fairly regular basis so that's why i don't want to predict hey he's going to re-summit the rams and all of a sudden lo and behold there he is traded to one of those other two teams or he's gonna be traded and lo and behold he decides to go back to the room because these things change all the time right all right so what about aaron rogers is he gonna play football

Let's start there.

then Aaron Rodgers gets to follow us. Okay, so if Rodgers, if Stafford signs with the Giants, it sounds like you're saying Rodgers to the Rams. I definitely could see that happening. Okay, so let me throw out a couple team names. You can be like No Chance or yeah, that could happen. So Rams, you said that you could see that happening. Raiders? I could see it happening. Steelers? I could see it happening. Titans? Don't see that happening.

Colts? Don't see that happening. Browns? Don't see that happening. Giants? Could see that happening. Okay, interesting. So I gave you four teams that I could see, right? Yeah, but he's definitely playing.

I believe he's going to play, yes. Yeah. And Kelsey's coming back, right? He is training and preparing as if he's going to come back. You never know. What if Marvel Studios comes and says, hey, we want you like- We need more Kelsey. Yeah. But he's preparing and planning to come back. Plans change. But yes, they think he's going to be back. I think he thinks he's going to be back, but-

Let's see what happens. I'm not a comic book guy. Is there a role that Marvel would be looking at and be like, this is Kelsey? Well, I could see him doing... He's such a big personality and so charismatic. He could do anything he wants. So if they want to turn him into some movie star, they want to turn him into the next Rock. Couldn't you see that? I could see that. Yeah, I would like...

I would like to see him retire and try to play on a level playing field podcasting-wise with us because we're not in the NFL. He retired long ago. Their podcast, they make a lot more money than you guys, right? I know you guys do well, but they've really done very well. Thanks, Shefty. They sold out. Appreciate it, Sam. Their corporate studio is owned by Jeff Bezos, not us. The problem is I don't know who we could say that about for Shefty.

And somebody makes more money than you, right? Absolutely. Yeah. And deserves to. And I'm okay with that. But for my podcast, I've never made any money from my podcast. Yeah. So you guys have changed the name. You guys have made far more money than I have in my podcast. We have. We've made a very good living. Congratulations. They've done well. Thank you. Turn 40 years old. Yeah. To hit it the way you guys have.

Yeah. That's pretty good. It's pretty good. Yeah. You might not have any jumpsuits, but you've had a lot of success. Well, they all get stolen. Yeah. No, it's been a wild ride. But the Kelsey's, they do need to equate it with the antics and just get on as two normal guys doing a podcast. Let's see if they can do it.

I don't know if they can. I don't think they can. I mean, the level of success that they've achieved with that is incredible. All right, let's not. I mean, we're higher. So you too. You too. You too, guys. Let's not fucking go crazy. It's fine. Yeah, I mean, if you date the most famous person in the world, it's pretty easy to get their listens up. Yeah, and they launched a podcast. He started dating Taylor Swift, and they played in a Super Bowl against each other. Try to do that on a...

pick, pick us up one-on-one in the middle of August when we're debating, you know, the color of yellow cheese or of American cheese. Yeah. See us there. Yeah. They, they couldn't, they couldn't pull that off. They're, they're playing from the red teas. Yeah. We're back on the championship. Exactly. You guys have played like champions. Yes, we have played. Thank you. So I've seen, I've seen PFT drive 400 yards. Yeah. You have seen that. Yeah. Uh,

Also, thank you for the Christmas presents or for the holiday presents. Yep. Incredible. I don't know how you get the blankets to smell nice too. We do that. We take care of it. Full service. It smells nice. It's Blake's favorite place to lay. It's my dog's favorite blanket. Hey, you know what? My wife got those blankets like in dog beds. Like they're unbelievable. They're very soft. So we did Rogers. We did Stafford. What about Sam Darnold? Yeah.

I think when I see Kwesi Adolfo Mensah, their GM of the Vikings, talk the way he did in such glowing terms about J.J. McCarthy, to me that says like, okay, they're setting it up for J.J. to be the guy. Yeah. That's what it seems like. I think they would like Sam back, but they'd like Sam back at their number. And so, again, where's Matthew Stafford going? Is he going to the Rams? Is he going to the Raiders? Is he going to the Giants? Because-

I think if he doesn't wind up with the Raiders, I think Sam Darnold potentially could come into play with the Raiders. I could see that happening. You need the domino of Stafford to fall to begin to place the other quarterback chess pieces. But Sam Darnold...

I think he'll do well. But to me, it feels like Minnesota is shaping up to be J.J. McCarthy, and we'll see what happens here in the next couple of weeks. All right, interesting. What about Cleveland? What can Cleveland do at the quarterback position? To me, they have to draft a quarterback.

with their first pick, which I assume to be two, but maybe they go up to one to lock it in. The guy they want, they're not very far from the top, and Tennessee could go back one slot and get basically whoever they want if they're not going to go quarterback. And the Titans are still going through their process of

They've spoken to teams and told them, we're interested in talking, but we need to get through our process first, go through the combine, go through pro days before they derive their decision about what they're going to do at one. Cleveland, to me, I predict it'll be a quarterback period. I think they have to do quarterback period.

They're that high. They're that financially strapped with Deshaun Watson. There's that much of a need. You need something to uplift the spirits of the organization. I believe the Browns go quarterback. Okay. All right. Okay. What about, what's a story that you've got? Maybe not a prediction, but like something that we don't see coming. You're usually good at that or like something to just say, here's a tickler file. This guy might, you know, not play forever. This guy, this coach, whatever.

Anything on the horizon? A league rule?

Oh, is the Tush push going to get banned? I don't think so. How do you ban that? It seems like it's football. It just seems like, okay, so you can't push the Tush. By the way, their success rate in that play is, what is it, 92%. So if we take away, you can't touch his Tush. Yep. And Jalen Hurts is still sneaking behind Mekhi Becton and Jordan Maialata and Lane Johnson. Don't you think he's still going to succeed on that play 75% of the time? Yeah.

So I don't know. And by the way, what about the plays where the running backs in the open field and all of a sudden people are pushing him? What about the plays with a wide receiver tight end catches a pass and they're being that's not a lot either. Right. Because we're not allowed to push anybody anymore. Is the quarterback sneak now banned? Yeah. Or it's just banned where you just can't touch the guy.

Look, I've heard more opposition to it this week than I thought I would, but I don't know that there's a way to legislate it out of the game right now. Yeah, interesting. All right, so what's going on with Tom Brady and the Raiders? How active is he? He's been active. Is he like calling shots out there? His voice is being heard. I don't know that he's the final guy, but I think that Tom has a lot of say there.

And he should. He's smart, hardworking, bright guy. I think that they brought him in for a reason. And he's been involved in all this. Do we care at all about the ethics of Tom Brady owning a team and then also participating? I think it's crazy. Okay. So, by the way, he can't go to practice to watch what the Chiefs are doing when he could watch it on TV. You don't think that Tom Brady is smart to go back and look at the tape? No.

If they are in production meetings, I would hope and think that if you are uncomfortable, if you are the Chiefs or Broncos or Chargers and you're uncomfortable that Tom Brady is broadcast, then don't give all the information. Withhold what you need to withhold. Right. Or say, Tom, you can't come in the meeting. Right. Like Tom still, they're not hiring him to be, I'm a reporter.

Tom Brady has played this game at a high level for a long time. They hired him because he has done things, seen things, been through things that none of us ever have. That's what he's supposed to be bringing to the game. So if they never allow him in a production meeting and never allow him in a practice, to me, that doesn't matter in the way that Tom Brady's doing his job. Yeah.

Yeah, that's fair. Yeah. All right. So we talked about the 18 game. Is there ever going to be a chance for a double buy? Because I feel like or is that no chance to buys? I think I think that would be a part of the 18 games. By the way, if I were the NFL or the NFL, I'm coming to the players. We know how much the players don't want to play an 18th game. And I understand why that would be the case.

But if I'm asking you, you guys played in the NFL and I said to you, would you rather have a 17 game season with one by or an 18 game season with two buys? What would you rather have? I'd rather have two buys, but also I would play for free. I would too. Cause I care so much. I love the, I'd actually, I'd actually pay them.

Well, I'd pay them to be able to play. But I think the double buy. I like the double buy. Double buy 18 games. And I know you guys are doing it for free, but there's gonna be a lot more money. A lot more money involved. Yeah. Because we can now sell the extra TV package. Right. So, okay. I'll take the extra buy, the extra money.

And by the way, football could always do load management like basketball. No, we don't want to. I've always thought that the solution to the double buy is there just needs to be a universal buy where college football has their playoff now. So whatever it is, early December, every team's on a buy. And then you have college football games on that Sunday. And also you give everyone a chance to do their Christmas shopping, check in, be like the universal buy.

A check-in with everyone. Kind of reset the whole world for the home stretch. Well, it's sort of like the NBA does for the All-Star break. The sport shuts down for basically a week. Yeah. Right? Including the game, yeah. I mean, I think you're talking about taking that. I don't like when the NBA does that. I kind of like, as a guy who plays fantasy basketball and loves it, I kind of miss it there. How'd you do this year?

Or how are you doing? I'm in second place, but my team, it's kind of ham and egg. How'd you do in fantasy football this year? I lost in the opening round of the playoffs. I had a great regular season. Brutal. Yeah. Are you interested in potentially taking on another team, not as a day-to-day manager, but more in a ownership role where you would oversee the day-to-day manager? In fantasy? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

I think I'm as much fantasied out as I can be. Like I allow it to consume my thoughts and dictate my moods. But again, you wouldn't have to. You would just have to manage a person managing the team. I know. I don't want to do that. Jerry O'Connell is the person we're talking about. We're looking to fill a role where he needs someone kind of holding his hand. It's almost like so he knows that somebody's watching him. Right. We really want to strike fear. I do that with a lot of people already.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. A lot of people that reach out like constantly texting. Yeah. We would like to we want to figure out a way to add more bureaucratic red tape to our fantasy operation where we just have multiple layers of managers.

Would you be interested? Probably not. Slot you into that middle management role. I'm not, I don't, I don't like middle managing. I don't like bureaucracy. I kind of want to do this just because Jerry would text Schefter nonstop. Can we just, can we just say, I got certain guys that already do that. Yeah. Here's the, here's the deal. What if we just, it requires no work on your part. You just accept the title.

As in title only? Yes, in title only. In title only, fine. Governing owner. Okay. That's fine. Governing owner of Jerry O'Connell. We're the principal owners of the operation. So we're on top of you. You're fronting it. Yeah, we're on top of you. We front the money, but you will be the governing owner in name only of Jerry O'Connell. Figure it. And is there anything for me to gain?

Yeah, like immortality if we win. And also just power. A spot on the wall of fame next to my cell phone. Listen, I'll tell you this. If we win the Fantasy League this year, when we do the trophy presentation, PFT and I obviously will hold the trophy first. You'll hold the trophy second. Then Jerry O'Connell.

That sounds fair to me. Yeah. I mean, really what you get, get out of it aside from the trophy potentially is you get power over Jerry O'Connell, which means that you can fire him at any given time. You don't have to do anything, but if you wake up one day and you're like, it's time for a change, we got to shake things up in the locker room. And that way when Jerry gets mad at us that he got fired, like it wasn't us, it was Shefty. Yeah. Like me. Yeah. Everybody else does. Exactly. Yeah. Speaking of that, how mad are Chiefs fans at you?

You know, I didn't get that either. So explain what happened, how it all went down. The story was like they're expanding replay assist to include slides. I remember writing the story and being like, okay, well, what does this mean? Like the slide of Patrick Williams. It wasn't directed. I don't care. Like I don't feel like there's some vendetta. I wasn't trying to stir up anything. And all of a sudden I got people going nuts about that. Yeah.

That was not my intent. I didn't like that it became that and it was unfortunate, the whole thing. What fan base hates you the most? It depends on the time. There was a time when, I mean, we could go through this. There have been various fan bases that have hated me at various points. What's the worst it's gotten with a fan base? Again, two weeks ago, it would have been Kansas City. Aaron Rodgers, when he was the Packers, it was Green Bay. It's just whatever's in the news. It's whatever's in the news at that time. The Jets? Did the Jets hate you this year?

I don't think so. Maybe unless you know something I don't. No, memes is shaking his head. He's clean. No, he's clean. He's not a Florio? Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to be able to please all the people all the time. Sometimes when you deliver bad news, they do shoot the message. I always shoot the message. I try to deliver literally black and white factual information. OJ Simpson died. Fact. Fact. He did. He died. That's it. You got it right. You got the story right. Yeah.

All right. So what about this name for potentially being on the move? Max Crosby. I don't think they'll part ways with a guy like that. That means so much to their city. That's so important.

Especially with the way that Mark Davis has felt about him. But we've got a whole slew of defensive ends here who are going to get paid this offseason. Like you got TJ Watt, maybe Miles Garrett, Cleveland or somewhere else. You've got Trey Hendrickson who's got to get paid. There are a whole host of defensive ends that are going to get paid a lot of money. So...

I'm sure the Raiders are preparing to sign Max Crosby to a lucrative extension that he deserves. But if they're not, then they should look to deal. And by the way, they're rebuilding, although I'm sure they don't feel that way. He would be the most valuable chip that they have. That guy's an unbelievable player. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One more gun to your head. Oh, God damn. Get him up next quarterback. Landman. Get him up next quarterback. Pittsburgh Steelers. Sound guy. Yes. Get in there. Fuck. Yes. Get him. Memes. You get it. Scan the room.

We got it. Do I have to answer with my hands up? Yes. Pittsburgh Steelers next quarterback. Steelers next quarterback? Yeah. Russell Wilson or Justin Fields? No way. All right. They're staying put. Really? One of them will be back. All right. One of them I expect to be back. Which one? Russell Wilson. Okay. Sussy for Russie. Russie's back. We're sussying for Russie. Okay. What about Jameis Winston? What's the market expected to look like for Jameis Winston?

I'd want him on my team. Yeah. Seven days or seven days. Yeah. I don't know where he's going to wind up going, but boy, that guy is, he's fun. Yeah. Somebody very happy. He's a lot of fun. He's a lot of fun. All right. I got one last question. This has been so much fun. We love having you on chef day every year. And I'm excited to get that phone. We need that phone. A row back question. R H O B A C K.com. Promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com. Promo code take 20%.

What is Shefty doing for vacation this year? You deserve a vacation. What are you doing? When is it happening? What are you doing? No vacation? Come on. We have zero planned. Ah, come on. You know, it's always nice after the draft.

When you enter a quiet period, there always is going to be something. And as I say with the NFL, whatever happens on May 4th or May 18th, the schedule release, that becomes the biggest thing. And when there's nothing else to talk about and there's that one thing that happens that day, some player signs an extension, some player gets cut, some player gets fired.

In trouble. Like that becomes the biggest thing because that's how everything is with the NFL. And there's always something. And I just feel like the job is even at that time, you just, you're always on alert. Right. You're always on guard. So vacation, I will say this. I'd love to go on a vacation where you could disconnect and turn everything off. I haven't done that.

In my adult life. Why don't you do it? We'll handle it. We'll just take your phone. By the way, if I give you the phone, then we could give you the active phone next to the active phone. Yeah, yeah. We'll just handle it. We wouldn't mess up your career too bad. No. Just a little bit. But no vacations planned. Okay. Zero. My kids have been after me. My kids really want to go to Italy. Really. Take them to Italy. You know what? I was talking to this guy last summer and he's like,

He was turning 70. I'm like, what are you doing? He's like, I'm renting a house in Italy for a month and I'm inviting my friends and some of my family. Anybody who wants to come can come. Anybody who doesn't, doesn't have to. And I thought, that's a really cool idea. Yeah. My kids want to do that. Would we get the invite? Well, in a couple of years, I'll be 60. Yeah. 58. Yeah. So-

You guys. We'd get the invite? If we do that. I can't make it, but I would love the invite. I would stop in. Yeah. By the way. I'd save the entire month. There was a good time for this. My daughter will be finishing high school. Yeah. My ESPN contract will be up. I'll be 60. So maybe we just shut it all out. Yeah. Did you think about that at all with Woj retiring? That had to have crossed your mind. Yeah.

Listen, I have so much respect for what he did. My wife would never let me do the same thing. Become athletic director of Michigan? That day when he did that, I got 20 texts. Like, are you taking the GM job in Michigan? There's a whole new industry now. There's a whole new world out there of GMs in college. Listen, I love Woj. He's one of my dear friends. When we talked about him doing this,

I did my best initially to say, hey, just think of the other side. Think about this. Do one more year.

He was done. It's good for him. I respect that. It's unbelievable. Yeah. And people are just like, oh, you think, a couple of people are like, you think Woj was sorry he wasn't working for the Luca trade? I'm like, Woj couldn't give a crap. That's awesome. That he didn't work on the Luca trade. My dream scenario is that he got the text for the Luca trade. He got it on his phone. He looked at it and he goes, that's the old me. Closed his phone, threw it away, like threw it into the ocean. Oh, I forgot, Che, you got some questions? Yeah.

Also, Shefty, you look good for 58. Yeah, you do. Thank you. You might be daddy. Is Shefter daddy? Shefter might be daddy. What does that mean? When you know you're daddy. As you age, you're going to get the first 60 years of being someone who's maybe not tall, I would say, might not be the best. But then as you get older, small dogs live a long time.

Yeah, and you do shrink over time. Right. I don't know much to shrink from. You'll be like in our back pocket in 20 years. Before Che, Memes does have one question for you that I'll ask. Are the Jets going to trade up to one or two? No.

Were they seven? Are they seven memes? Yeah, there's seven. I don't see them going to one or two. They got holes to address and it would take a lot to get up there. Look, could it happen? Sure. I haven't heard that today. We'll see what happens. Memes happen. Okay. Do you want them to trail to one? I don't know.

No. He just had you kill a bunch of rumors, though. Apparently he squashed them. Tons of rumors. That's what I do. I kill meth. I kill rumors. Rumors, yeah. And OJ Simpson. And OJ Simpson. Okay, Chad. Killed a lot of people today. That's actually the perfect segue. We're taping this Wednesday. This is not going to be a perfect segue. We're taping this Wednesday before the on-field drill starts.

There are four guys kind of at the top of the draft. Cam Ward, Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders. Is there anyone that's either here or sitting at home doing pro day soon that could see a Trayvon Walker type rise to the top pick? You know what? I'm not smart enough to answer that right now. Okay. Because I'm just not living in that world. Field Yates would answer that question and be spot on. But I couldn't answer that today. Okay. Because I just don't know. All right. That's fair. I'll replace it with this question. That's a good question.

It was a good segue. Yeah, great segue, but bad question. Bad question. We talked a lot about quarterbacks. Is there any world where Daniel Jones is a starting quarterback this September? Yes. Good question. Yes. In fact, I've actually had his name come up with head coaches I've spoken to. Whoa. Good question, Chad. I'm like, oh, so –

You know, what if you can't get that? Daniel Jones. I have heard the name. So I think there's a market for him. I also think that if Sam Darnold leaves, Minnesota would be a natural spot for him to be. And I think that's part of the reason the Vikings brought him in. But is there a scenario where he could wind up as a starter? I think there is. Can you tell us what division those coaches have been in? It was one coach. It was one coach. It was just one coach. Just brought it up. And it was that team.

It was what team? Was it the Vikings? No. No. What conference? What color? What conference was the team? Conference in color. It was in the National Football League. Okay. All right. You got one more question, Chad? Yes. So we just had, I don't know what day these are airing, but Liam Cohen was in yesterday. So James Gladstone. By the way.

Did you, when Liam was in here? Yeah, I gave him the business. Did you get after him at all or nothing? Oh, yes. He didn't give him the business. What'd you say to him?

How dare he? I did not like the way that went down personally. We kind of made a mess. My feelings were hurt. You got his feelings hurt. But I understand it. The pay difference is astronomical. And he wanted to be a head coach. And I get it. Listen, we all agree with that. Like, you get only so many chances to get one of those jobs. One of 32. Yep. A salary of eight figures. Mm-hmm.

You can't turn that down, right? But, you know, everyone went over. She just told him, go and talk to him. Right. So James Gladstone, the hire this week, actually, 34 years old in Jacksonville. Who's to say what's going to happen if he succeeds and if Liam Cohen succeeds? How does this, do you see this having a giant ripple effect in the NFL front offices? Like, are they going to start hiring young guys now?

Because he's a mainly analytical guy, I understand. He might have a Jaguars obsession. Well, when I heard him talk, and you guys met him, I still haven't spoken with him in person. I've texted him, but he's talking about revolution. He uses words that I haven't heard GMs use. Yeah. And very new age, very 2025. I think that if whatever he does works, I think it would open up the idea that

That people would be more open to hiring younger GMs. Just like when Sean McVay came in, he was hired at the age of 31, I believe. And all of a sudden, it became acceptable to hire a very young head coach. But there's only so many Sean McVays. And if James Gladstone succeeds, there aren't that many people

that age who can step into a job of that magnitude and handle it as adeptly as he would if he's succeeding like you're saying he's going to okay question it's like you have one more he's like doge but for front office yeah uh two guys rumored to be on the move would just love to hear uh potential landing spots you could see these guys khalil mac debo samuel

Khalil Mack, the Chargers are definitely trying to get back. And the interesting part about that is I think after everybody saw the success that the Eagles had in the Super Bowl and with the salary cap taking a bigger jump than people expected, the pass rushers like Josh Sweat, like Khalil Mack, even Milton Williams inside. Now I'm going to see if I say his name right. Osa Igadoglu. The guy in Dallas. I was- Igadoglu.

Odigizua. Osa Odigizua. Osa Odigizua. I got that right. I think these guys are going to get more money than people are expecting. And I think the Eagles help make the pass rushers more money in this free agent market. The Chargers are going to work to get back Cleo Mack. There's a question about whether they'll be able to keep Joey Bosa. They were in this spot last year. I can't imagine you're going to lose both guys. We'll see how that works out with them. And then- Debo. Debo. Debo.

Like I said, the one thing I could say on Debo is I think there's been more interest than people thought there would be. And I know that I've seen it out there that the Niners would have to release him because of the cap situation and designate him a June 1. I don't agree with that. I think they're going to be able to trade him. Good job, Shane. Cooper Cup. I think unbelievable wide receiver, aging, older right now.

He's filling time. No, no, no. I could see. I'm trying to think I want to answer this, right? Yeah. You're filling time. You know, I could see a cool name to say. Good beard. Did that breakfast club with Matthew Stafford. Really hard worker. Great story. Yeah. White. Yeah. He is. Very white. He is. Yeah. Good at basketball. Yeah. Yeah. What else can you say about the guy? Yeah.

He could be on the move. He's going to be on the move. Triple crown. Again, I think the Rams are going to hope to trade him. I think the salary and the numbers are an issue. And I think that's why I'm kind of parsing my words because the question is, is somebody going to trade for that contract? They're going to redo it. What's the contract going to look at? I think there are absolutely teams out there that want Cooper Cup. The

The question is, how much are those teams willing to spend on Cooper? Right. And that's really the issue here right now. He's going to have a new home. Yeah. He's going to have suitors. He's going to have interest. The question is, what is the price going to be? Okay. Can you just do something to get me and Big Cat excited and just tell us what players, our fun transactions, the Bears and the Commanders should find themselves involved in the next week? Like, who are the names that we should be looking at? Well...

Bears definitely offensively. They're definitely going to upgrade the offensive line. Don't know who that's going to be just yet, but they're going to be upgrading there. The commander is like, they're in a spot where they can go strengthen this. They're going to be looking for a pass rusher. They're going to be looking for a wide receiver. I think that they'll find a way to add both at some point here. And

jayden daniels wow like wow he's good let me tell you something he's so good he's and the amazing thing is like as i always say people in this business they're people who get it and people don't get it jayden daniels gets it he gets it he gets it like that guy is on it i i happen to be around him at the

I was really impressed with that guy. He gets it. Special. Yeah, he is. PFT is set next 14 to 16 years. 14 to 16 years? He had one great season. I love that. I do love him. I am in love with him. I go back to what somebody in that organization told me. It was like 10, 12 games into the season. I go, this quarterback, this quarterback covers up

a lot of the sins of the organization. Yes. Like, not everybody's at his level, and the rest of the team is okay. Yeah. There's some holes, though. It's a decent team, but the quarterback is exceptional, and because he's exceptional, everybody else gets elevated. Great quarterback, yeah. Right? That's the deal. All right, Shafty, you're the best. Thank you, as always. Wow. Yeah. That's it, huh? Yeah. You had a good year. We had a good year. Not a lot of problems. We had some stuff. Yeah, we had some stuff, but not a lot of problems, and I do want that phone.

We need that phone. Done. It's on the wall of fame. Yes. First wall of fame that I'm ever going to be on. Yes. High school wall of fame. Yes. I'm in. Sign me up. All right. Thanks so much. Thank you guys.

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Okay. By the way, Breaking Moose. Breaking Moose. NBA Central is back. We did it. We did it. In the time it took, we did it. Also, you've now listened to the Adam Schefter interview, and we have not hired him, but he is being considered in name only to be

on top of Jerry O'Connell in the organization chart. In name only. In terms of just the ability to fire Jerry. Jerry would not have to...

Talk to Adam, which he should. If he was smart, he would use him as a resource. So it would be in name only. Is he a direct report to Adam Schefter? I think he would have to direct report. Jerry doesn't realize having Schefter be part of the organization would be incredible. Jerry has no problem texting anyone at any time. He could text Schefter. He wants to deal with the kid, it sounds like. Yeah. But that came out of nowhere. That's not necessarily on the table. Right. The kids aren't involved in this. Exactly. Okay. Firefest of the week. Hank.

Not much this week. More of just a follow up from last week. I got got by the toll scam, which has proceeded to essentially happen nationwide across the country. I got a text to me. I have gotten some of them. It seems like everyone in the world has got sent this text because I've gotten sent the text from a million people being like, look, I got it, too. I got it, too. I got it, too. A lot of AWS being like, I got it, too.

But some of them are coming from hotmail accounts, which makes mine look so much worse because it's like, how did you get got by a hotmail account? Mine was texted from a real phone number. At least you got got by a much, much more believable text. What was the phone number? Because I got the text. It was kind of a random phone. I don't. I was. I saw it and I was like, I cannot believe Hank fell for this.

It was in the middle of the day. We had 20 minutes downtime, and I got the text, and I just was like, all right, let me take care of business real quick.

It was still bad, but it wasn't a Hotmail account. But the amount of people that have gotten texts from Hotmail accounts and are hitting me up being like, you idiot, how could you ever get caught by this? It's a tough look. Yeah, I got one just the other day from area code plus six three. Yes, that's where you should have. That was mine as well. Plus six three. Hank, come on. But I thought that might have been like an automated thing. I don't know. I was getting this for like, I wasn't here last week when you were talking about it. Oh, where were you? I was on vacation.

I was getting this for like months straight from the same toll thing. And then the weirdest part was

At one point, a real person was texting my brother being like, hey, is your brother this person? I keep getting toll things sent to my house. Please pay now. Damn. Or this is getting really annoying. Please pay this toll thing now. Which is weird. That's the weirdest part. Did you do it? No.

That's crazy. It was one of those things where I texted Mike. I was like, this isn't legit, right? And he was like, no. They're destroying families. They're trying to break up families. Yeah, they're turning brother against brother. But yeah, I don't know how the scammer got my brother's contact information. Damn. And he was sending pictures of real...

like letters addressed to me from this toll thing. That's a good scam though. Your brother owes a lot of money. Please tell him to pay. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy.

Okay. So wait, so what's your update that you still can't believe you got scammed? My update is I'm a fool for getting scammed, and I regret even talking about it because I've gotten hit up nonstop for the past week of people basically just being like, I got this text too. You're an idiot. Yeah. You are kind of an idiot. No, you're a big time idiot. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a double fire fest. But it's kind of nice having to get your card reset because then all the subscriptions that you forgot about. Yeah. It cleans it out for you naturally. Yeah.

This is why you should just never pay anything. Right, yeah, good point. That too. If anyone ever yells at you for not paying something, you'd be like, oh, I thought it was a scam. Yeah. Yeah, my bad.

And then when they're like, no, but you actually have to pay, be like, are you sure? You seem like a scam. Yeah, close out your bar tab. IRS? This seems like it's fraudulent. Yeah, that's a scam. Okay, PFT? I had a pretty good week this week, I would say. My fire fest is that I have fallen deeply in love with a house that I'm not going to buy. And I'm obsessed with this house. And I can't stop looking at this house and just thinking about it. It's like 60 acres. They call it a hobby farm.

It's got like a gym, a little basketball hoop. I look at it every single day. You love farming, so I can understand. Yeah, well, no. And you have a lot of time to farm. I got so deep in this obsession with a house that I'm not going to buy, I started to look up what kind of crops grow out here and what I could plant on the farm that I'm not going to purchase. But I'm obsessed with it. I look at the house probably two or three times a day and just think, yeah, that's where my corn would go.

You should just buy it. Some snow peas right there. Well, the thing is, when you get a farm, it's not just like waking up and your cows are happy to see you at the front door and then you go about your business. You actually have to work. By the way, this farm is in Wisconsin, too. How far away is it? It's like an hour and a half away. Oh, that's...

We'd never see you again. No, we would see him the same amount of time. His cows would never see him. Yeah, they would all die. That's the part. I don't think PFT would be like, I'm going to farm, see you boys later. He would just buy a farm and be like, farm, I'm never going to see you. Yeah. I even looked up how many chickens I could keep there. I started looking at ducks and goats.

Are chickens like cats? You can just leave out food for them? Yeah, basically. They take care of themselves. I'd have to call you every morning to make sure you left on time. No, he's talking about having this as being like a second home. Oh. Yeah, where he, again, he would never go to this farm. I thought you were talking about just moving. No, no, no. I would summer at the farm. The cows would be like, where have you been? We're all dying. Yeah.

We all have brucelotus. Give us medicine. Yeah. It's not like a terrible house. I even looked up cattle diseases that I should need to be on the lookout for. Yeah, but Max, it has a basketball court. Yeah, we don't have a basketball court. PFT known lover of playing basketball. It's got a gym.

We also have a gym. Yeah, I know, but this is... We don't have a farm. Does it have a lake? There's no lake. Oh, this is pointless. That's a good point, Max. There's a lake very close by. You need a fishing pond. Yeah. There's a lake very close by to here. Yeah, you need a fishing pond. No, this lake is closer. This lake is way closer. This lake is way closer.

It's sad, though, because I've been showing everybody this house, and everybody is pumped for me to continue thinking about buying the house that I'm not going to buy, except for you guys. Who has given you positive reinforcement about this house? You guys are the only ones who are taking big, steamy dumps on my daydream. Name names. We're not taking dumps on it. It just makes no sense. Listen, the house is sick. You showed me it. I think you guys don't believe I can farm. Just get a lake house. Right. Right. Right.

There's houses on lakes. Right. That would be sick. You are rich. You can buy a lake house. Where are the goats going to live on a lake? Who needs goats? You have dogs. Your dog is big. Yeah. Well, I'd have to get more dogs for the farm. Just get dogs at a lake house. Who has given you positive reinforcement about getting this house? Everybody that I've showed you. And I've showed it to probably dozens of people. Name one name.

My friend Brian. Okay. Okay. And he doesn't have to work with you, though. No, he doesn't. But he said he'd come visit the farm. Yeah. I would visit the farm. But was it like, you should do this? Or was it just like, oh, that's cool? He's like, awesome. Yeah, you should get it.

Visiting a farm is cool. Visiting a lake is so much cooler. Yes. And also, the key word is visiting, too. Yeah, no, I would like you to have a lake and you to get a boat as well. Again, I'm not going to buy this farm, but I am obsessed with thinking about buying the farm. Yeah, that part I totally understand. I look at Zillow all the time being like, oh, shit, look at this house in Malibu. Look at this house in Montana. I'm never going to buy any of it. Every time you go on vacation, you have to look at what a property. Doing the fantasizing on Zillow is everyone does that.

I'm nervous you might actually try to buy it, and then you're going to be like, guys, I made a mistake. I have to move to this farm because every animal's dying. I mean, I think the farm likes me too. Can we do a Zoom episode? My cows are dying. Listen, I want to indulge in fantasizing about buying this. I fear this is why it's about Fyre Fest is because I've become obsessed with it. Yeah. I think this is your answer, by the way, Hank. What would get us to stop podcasting? Him buying this farm. I get a farm. We bought a farm. We bought a zoo. Think of the fans.

Yeah, but I mean, so you could do squash. Fans would lose. You could do cucumbers, tomatoes. You could do good content on the farm, though. Yeah, good content, yeah. What was that game back at Farmville? Yeah. Yeah, I do real life. Yeah, real life Farmville. I would even maybe grow some weed. The possibilities are endless. These things you can do at your current house. Yeah, you could. These possibilities. No, no. I can't have animals at my current house. You have one. You have one. I have one. You could have another. But you guys are forgetting the goats. You could get a goat.

You have a little backyard. You can have your goat live out there. All right. My Fyre Fest, it's a future Fyre Fest. I got an issue you guys can maybe help me with. So my house is stocked with snacks. It's always stocked with snacks. I'm a big fruit snacks guy. Love fruit snacks. Pound them. I'll open like...

Six of them make a big pile in my hand and just eat them. I'm Mott's over Welch's myself. Yeah, so I am as well. So the problem, though, is my wife buys more fruit snacks because the fruit snacks get eaten. I don't think she realizes I'm the only one eating them. And she just bought like a week ago a brand I don't like. And it's like the tropical flavor. Yeah. And I haven't eaten any of them.

And they're just sitting there and no one's eating them because I don't think she realized that I was the only one eating them. And I'm going to get found out for being the only one who's eating the fruit snacks. I don't know what to do. You got to just bring them to the office and give them away. Yeah. Just throw them out. Yeah. I just stared at him last night because I was like, oh, I want a snack. And there's probably 50 bags of these fruit snacks sitting there just not being touched because I was the one who was doing the work. Put them out for the birds.

Yeah, and then I got to figure out... I mean, if you have one of those fruit snacks, too, you have seven. Like, they're a great snack. They're not filling at all. No. Listen, if I had opened up my snack closet last night and it was the SpongeBob fruit snacks, they'd be gone. I would have taken them all down one... Like, I'll buy a box of 10 and I'll give, like, my kids one to share between the three of them and I'll eat the rest. Yeah, I agree with you. The tropical subpar. Gross. Yeah, not good. So, I got to...

I got to figure out. So I think, yeah, maybe bring him in here because I'm right on the cusp. It's been about a week where I'm going to get found out as being the only one who ever eats the fruit snacks. Yeah. Bring him in. Distribute them. Maybe I'll just put them in my kids bags and just be like, give them to your friends. Yeah. Tell them it's Valentine's Day again. Or just put them out on your front step and put a sign that says, please take one. Free fruit snacks. Act like it's Halloween. Yeah. I'm trying to get more fruit snacks in this house. Okay. Okay.

Let's finish up. We got numbers. Monday's show is going to be an awesome show. We got a very Italian show. Nick Sirianni, awesome interview. And Diana Rossini. Let's do numbers. Five. 11. Meme's you ever gotten this? No. I think Meme's is going to get it today. 40. Max, there's no way he's getting it today. Three. I got a good feeling. Somebody's going to get it. I don't have... Somebody, not you. Somebody. I'll go 44. Come on. 99 points. Three.

Fifty-five. Twenty-one. Hank, what was your number? Five. What was yours, Pete? He stole my number. I did 40. Pug texted me last night in the Seton Hall-Villanova game, trying to rub it in my face that Seton Hall was going to beat Villanova, and then they never scored again. Oh, Pug. They were up 16 and just never scored again. Pug. That first half, though. Yeah. It was a hell of a first half. Don't forget. It's 40 on behind this house. Twenty-six. Twenty-six. Twenty-six.

Good call, memes. Wrong again, memes. Not only wrong with the number, but wrong saying someone's going to get it. Love you guys. Wrong two times.