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Celtics Coach Joe Mazzulla Fresh Off The NBA Title, Oilers Force Game 6 And A Show Announcement

2024/6/19
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主持人:凯尔特人队夺冠,结束了长达5年半的冠军荒,实现了Hank作为球迷的梦想;杰伦·布朗的表现证明了质疑者是错的,他跻身联盟前五球员行列;布拉德·史蒂文斯是NBA历史上最伟大的总经理之一;凯尔特人队已经建立了一个强大的阵容,未来有望建立王朝;杰伦·布朗和杰森·塔图姆的故事是体育运动的最佳体现;布拉德·史蒂文斯在球员交易方面做出了杰出的贡献;凯尔特人队是本赛季NBA最好的球队,他们在常规赛和季后赛都表现出色;赢得总冠军后的第二天,作为球迷来说是最好的体验;杰伦·布朗是总决赛最有价值球员的最佳人选;凯尔特人队的整体实力是他们夺冠的关键,而不仅仅是塔图姆和布朗的个人能力;凯尔特人队的阵容深度是他们最大的优势;布拉德·史蒂文斯对凯尔特人队的成功贡献巨大;杰伦·布朗在总决赛中的表现决定了系列赛的走向;人们对恩比德的质疑与之前对塔图姆和布朗的质疑类似,这将成为一个精彩的故事;Hank已经开始展望凯尔特人队的下一个冠军;Hank认为杰森·塔图姆需要获得总决赛MVP才能与杰伦·布朗平起平坐;凯里·欧文在总决赛失利后,展现了良好的体育精神;尽管达拉斯独行侠队在总决赛中失利,但他们的年轻球员阵容值得期待;卢卡·东契奇未来一定会赢得总冠军;杰森·塔图姆缺乏真诚的表现;杰伦·布朗比杰森·塔图姆更有魅力;杰森·塔图姆在庆祝胜利时表现得不够自然;杰森·塔图姆在年轻时就展现了对成功的渴望;杰森·塔图姆对马修·图乔克的致敬视频很受欢迎;德里克·怀特在比赛中受伤,但仍然坚持比赛,展现了坚韧的精神;凯尔特人队在夺冠后前往迈阿密庆祝;凯尔特人队夺冠是他们长期努力的结果;威利·梅斯是棒球历史上最伟大的球员之一;亚伦·贾奇被球击中可能是报复性行为;油人队的球迷对网络上的批评者做出了回应;油人队将系列赛拖入第六场;康纳·麦克戴维在比赛中的表现非常出色;油人队和美洲豹队的比赛是一场精彩的比赛;卡丘克在比赛最后时刻的扑救非常精彩;杰森·塔图姆的行为引发了争议;杰森·塔图姆的行为被认为是模仿其他球员的行为;杰森·塔图姆不应该为自己的行为道歉;佩顿·普理查德在比赛最后时刻的投篮能力很出色。 Hank:回顾了自己多年来关注凯尔特人队的经历,并表达了对球队夺冠的喜悦之情;凯尔特人队的成功是长期坚持和信任球队管理层的结果;布拉德·史蒂文斯作为教练和总经理都为凯尔特人队的成功做出了巨大贡献;凯尔特人队在球队文化建设方面存在不足,例如没有为格兰特·威廉姆斯制作致敬视频;杰伦·布朗是总决赛最有价值球员的最佳人选;承诺会在凯尔特人队夺冠后的第一个主场比赛中剃光头;杰伦·布朗用左手举起奖杯,这体现了他的实力;认为杰森·塔图姆缺乏真诚的表现;认为杰伦·布朗比杰森·塔图姆更有魅力;认为杰森·塔图姆在庆祝胜利时表现得不够自然;认为杰森·塔图姆在年轻时就展现了对成功的渴望;认为杰森·塔图姆对马修·图乔克的致敬视频很受欢迎。 Max:对凯尔特人队夺冠感到不满;认为杰森·塔图姆的行为缺乏真实性;认为杰伦·布朗比杰森·塔图姆更有魅力;认为杰森·塔图姆在庆祝胜利时表现得不够自然;认为凯尔特人队整体实力是夺冠关键,而非塔图姆和布朗个人能力;认为油人队的球迷对网络上的批评者做出了回应;对凯尔特人队夺冠感到不满;认为兰登·多诺万的发型很糟糕;认为罗里·麦克罗伊发表声明,但没有为自己的行为道歉;认为贾斯汀·汀布莱克因酒后驾车被捕;认为亚历克斯·奥维奇金在比赛中的体型引发了讨论;认为纽约大都会队的战绩在格里马斯投球后有所提升;认为大联盟棒球的季后赛规则不合理。

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The Boston Celtics have won the NBA Championship! This episode celebrates the team's victory, discusses key players like Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum, and highlights the contributions of coach Joe Mazzulla and Brad Stevens. The hosts also delve into the emotional journey of the Celtics' fans, particularly Hank, and the significance of this win for the city of Boston.
  • Celtics win the 2023 NBA Championship.
  • Jalen Brown's performance in the Finals solidifies his status as a top player.
  • Brad Stevens' strategic moves as GM are praised.
  • The debate about Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum's ability to coexist is put to rest.

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Hey Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla, fresh off their championship. Incredible to get Coach Mazzulla on the show. We're going to talk about the Celtics winning. We're going to talk about Hank.

We are going to put in what happens with Game 5 of the Stanley Cup Final after we talk about the Celtics. So we will be talking some hockey. We have hot seat, cool throne. And then we have a show announcement after our interview with Coach Mizzou that everyone will want to listen to. The MMA event of the year, Battle of the Giants, is coming up fast.

Lineal heavyweight world champion Francis Ngannou makes his return to the cage versus Hanan Ferreira. Women's MMA GOAT Chris Cyborg takes on 2023 PFL champ Larissa Pacheco.

Johnny Ebelin goes toe-to-toe with Fabian Edwards with the Bellator middleweight title on the line. Battle of the Giants and Ganu vs. Fajera goes down Saturday, October 19th at 4 p.m. Eastern Time on ESPN Plus Pay-Per-View. Okay, let's go. Now in there with violence And not a lot of work to be done

No place to go washing, and then I can't name all of the songs. We're gonna rock the electric avenue, and then we'll figure, we're gonna rock.

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And the Boston Celtics are champions of the world. Congrats, Hank. The summer of Hank is upon us. It is nigh. The long, long drought for Boston all the way back to 2018 is finally over. Five and a half years. I know. It's really incredible that you survived this long. Maybe the biggest drought of your entire life as a sports fan. I think it is.

I'm so glad that it's over because you must have been in hell for those five and a half years. But the Celtics, they did in five games. You thought they'd do it in six. I bet them to win it under five and a half games. That's just false. You said on this very show. Yeah, I did say on the show. Listen, Hank, this is going to be a Hank Wett suck fest. You don't need to come in hot right now. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Congratulations, Hank. You're better than us as a sports fan. The city of Boston is better than us as sports fans.

I'm very jealous of everything you've gotten to experience, but you had a great team. And Jalen Brown proved all the haters wrong, and he is in that top five now. He's the best player on the team. Jason Kidd was 100% correct. Congratulations to Jalen Brown.

Very happy for you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Tell us the floor. By the way, for people who are wondering, we're going to tape after the Stanley Cup, so you'll hear us react to game five if the Panthers end up winning and everyone's like, why didn't you say Panthers as well? We will if they do. One more thing real quick about Jalen Brown. You know how I know he's the man and he's Batman on that team? Yeah. He wore the wire. Yeah. He wore the wire. And Wendy taught us.

That's the man. The man who makes the wire. Yeah. I do think they kind of switched that person game by game, but that's fine. It was a great night. There's truly nothing better. The day after, as fun as it is to win a championship that night...

You don't go to sleep until like 2 a.m. You watch every video. You watch the locker room. You see all the quotes. There's nothing better than the day after winning a championship as a sports fan, taking it all in, looking at all the old takes. There was a five-minute compilation of all of every single sports show saying Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum will never work together, break them up.

And that's just the best stuff. It was an emotional night. It was great to watch. Brad Stevens is the greatest GM of all time. Danny Ainge, recurring guest. You think Brad Stevens is the greatest GM of all time? I think he's got to be in a conversation. All time. All time.

One title? He is in the conversation. We are having the conversation. Yeah. Well, we'll see. The team is set up for a great, great run, which is the most exciting part. Oh, you're thinking about the next one. I am thinking about that. I mean, you have to think about the next one. It's like why... We made it to Game 7 last year. Jason Tatum rolled his ankle. They almost came back from 3-0. We've been in the Eastern Conference Finals. Nothing but success. We win a championship now, and we're set up for the future. Maybe a mini-dynasty?

Maybe a real one. Oh, I'm saying already a mini dynasty. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I completely agree with Hank that he is laser focused on the next one. He is wearing a shirt that says banner 18 on it. Well, yeah, you got to celebrate him when you get him. Shouldn't you wear a shirt that says banner 19? Question mark. No, I like the Celtics had a blank banner in their practice facility signifying the next one. Now they get to fill it out. Well, are they going to have another blank banner? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

The game was never really in doubt. It was the Celtics coronation. The funniest part of the game, I thought, was the last 10 minutes when Tatum was trying very hard to get the MVP.

It turned into a little bit of... It was Lucas stat padding, and then Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum just going for that. Trading off ISO. But yeah, you guys... I mean, the Celtics were the best team by far in the NBA this year. It showed in the regular season. It showed in the playoffs. They had an incredible run. They only lost three games. I do think... I don't want it to become a full glaze-off of Hank. The story of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and everything they've gone through...

That is why you watch sports, and that is the culmination of both from a fan perspective and from their perspective of putting in the hard work and trying to get up to the top of the mountain, failing, failing, failing, and then reaching that point is very cool. Jalen Brown is like an all-time success story in player development. When we had Danny Ainge on and he was talking about his game was far from being refined, same with Jason Tatum, all the growth he's had.

It's very cool, Hank. It's very cool. You guys did it. And it does get to shut up all the haters that thought those two guys couldn't coexist. And you're right, Brad Stevens, I mean, the Drew Holiday and the Kristaps Porzingis moves were all time. I wonder who had a worse Tuesday, Marcus Smart or Emei Odoka?

It's got to be Odoka. Marcus Smart is definitely happy, probably a little bit bittersweet, obviously. Odoka just had to not be horny. Yeah, Odoka fumbled the bag. Marcus Smart, it wasn't really his choice, but he does get to say he helped the culture and Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, he was instrumental in their upbringing as players.

So I'm sure he's happy for them. Obviously, it is sad. It's bittersweet, I'm sure. But it's definitely a doka. Yeah. Yeah. I would probably agree with that. Marcus Smart, though, not a great day either. No. I don't think it was as much bittersweet as much as it was bitter for Marcus Smart just because those are the guys that you played with. You probably really wish you were on that team, especially considering how this year went for him. And they needed the guys who they brought in first.

for him. Yeah. To get over the hump. Yeah. Uh, although holiday was the difference maker. True holiday was incredible. I, I still Bucks fans will get mad. I still think that like, I don't understand that. Yeah. They just gave him away and they let the Celt. I know they didn't directly trade him to the Celtics, but they opened the door for the Celtics to get him. Yeah. Uh, kind of a, a head scratching move on that one, but KP Chris ups, Porzingis, uh,

He did play. Hank was right. They got him in the rotation. A lot of people were questioning whether or not he actually should have been in the rotation. He was a massive liability last night. They were just going after him. They were just like, we're going to take a three. We're going to get spacing, and he's not going to be within 10 feet. I'm glad that he got to show how tough he was and get to the game because he's probably in some serious pain today dealing with that. But, yeah, you guys walloped.

the Mavericks so hard that you didn't even need a fourth guy on defense for a lot of the time. They were just a much better team. Celtics have been the best team all year, the best team all playoffs. Congratulations, Hank. You're better than us.

Yes. Well, let's glaze a little bit more. Max, you want to glaze a little? You got to say something. I can get sentimental too. Yeah, get sentimental and then I have some follow-up questions. Big Cat remembers he was there when I started at Barstool. Basically for the first year, two years, I was thinking I was getting fired every step of the way. So I was like trying to think of things to do so that I could get some level of job security.

At the time, there was no Celtics blogger, so I started blogging the Celtics. I'd be like, oh, you know, I'm blogging the Celtics. I'm doing stuff day to day. That was basically right after the Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett trade when the rebuild happened. And so seeing it go from that team to developing, it was before they even drafted Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown like a year or two before. And so just seeing it all kind of culminate into, you know,

When they won the first championship, I was a freshman in high school. That was kind of the start of my adulthood. And then it's like 16 years later, 31, this whole eight years of my life in the Celtics. It was a beautiful, beautiful night. Some say that you had a process and you trusted it.

Big time, yeah. That's where Brad Stevens and Brad Stevens, the craziest part, he developed them as a coach. Like, he knew Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum as a coach. He developed that team. They overperformed when he was the coach. They were rebuilding, but they still made the playoffs. They still fought. They went to Game 7 against LeBron when Jason Tatum, I think that was Jason Tatum's 19 or 20 year. Mm-hmm.

And then he became the GM, got in. He had a doco who was a player's coach. He would, you know, fumble the bag. And then they brought in another even better football guy, like the best coach you could ever have local guy, Providence players coach to just make them that much better. Got Porzingis, got you holiday. Yeah.

Danny Ainge set the foundation, and then Brad Stevens just made it happen. Can you even truly say that you have a great culture, though, if you do things like not even give Grant Williams a tribute video? Did you see that? He was pissed about that. He said, I was pissed. I was definitely pissed about not getting a tribute video. Did you see the video of Jalen Brown walking past him? Yeah, I saw some of that. It was like Jalen Brown and...

Grant Williams, like Reconnect, he was walking down a hallway just giving people high fives and he gave him a high five like he was just a security guard or something. And then...

talked to like a lady with her baby for for way longer than he acknowledged grant williams then went to taco fall and goes i love you taco like he didn't say anything to grant williams and then taco you could tell he was like you know yeah love you taco like we're boys that tribute video needs to happen for grant yeah do you think he did grant williams everyone's ragged on that game seven against like he did have a huge huge game for the celtics game seven against the box it's why would you go to that yeah i don't know why would you go to that i don't know do you think jalen brown was the deserving mvp

Yeah, I thought the votes, they put the votes out, I think it was, you know, seven or eight to four, or, you know, he had three or four more, which is fair. He's performed slightly better in the finals. I also... Jason Tatum did lead the team in points, rebounding, and assists for the playoffs, so it's like, it just shows. And Jason Tatum said it after. I don't... It's a media thing to be like, oh, try and drive a wedge into him, but, like, Kobe didn't... Kobe won two finals MVPs. Like, Steph Curry... Andre Goddard won. Andrew Wiggins won. Like...

it's not that big a deal as people are trying, even though they just won the championship, even though they've been talking shit about him for so long, they're still trying to be like, there's issues here. We would never do that. Yeah. Yeah. And we would never do that. I do think it is clearly the better player. I do think, uh, I don't think Andrew Wiggins ever won a final set VP. Oh, Steph Curry won that. I thought he was Steph Curry won that. Uh, I,

I do think Jalen Brown was deserving MVP winner, because if you look at this series, which wasn't really competitive, the only time that you could point to it and say, Oh, this was the game that I thought the Mavs would win or, you know, be at least up for was game three, going back to Dallas and his second half in that game basically ended the series. Yeah. Like he, he, he single-handedly ended the series there. So I, I do think he should have won MVP. Um, Tatum tried hard at the end. Uh,

I'm very happy for Al Horford. That was cool. I also got a little, like, it was cool watching Jason Tatum throw Deuce Tatum up in the air. That picture is... If you can't get emotional about that, you got a cold heart. All-time picture. Max, I would like to hear you maybe compliment Hank. No, thank you. I would like to pass on that. Okay. All right, Max is passing. Max, what were your thoughts? Celtics won. Okay. Good thoughts. Is that a thought? That's what's going on in this ad.

A lot going on that. Are you happy for Hank? No. As a person? A little bit. No. Max, come on. Come on, Max. You can't do this, Max. That's bad karma, but that's just Billy's scumbaggery. You've won a billion championships. I'm not happy that you got your 50th one. It's not like you've never won. I mean, you did beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. We did. We did.

No, I don't care. But the way you were saying that, you were like everyone doubted them, said that they couldn't win a championship together. That'll be great when that story is said about Embiid. Oh. And who? Maxie? Maxie? Yeah.

But I feel like he's had four teammates that he actually has just run out of town. Well, there's Al Horford. There's True Holiday. Jimmy Butler. This is your moment, Hank. Why are you doing this? Don't let him drag you down. This is your moment. Yeah, no, you're right. And you don't think that'll be a story of everyone being like, oh, yeah, everyone said Embiid couldn't win the big one, and then he wins the big one? Yeah, you're right. There's nothing better than that moment.

I'm not going to say I hope it happens for you because it's probably not. But there is nothing. You're right that there's nothing better than when people say that. Yeah. And you can just be like, send the picture with them holding the championship trophy. So you're thinking mini dynasty loading. I'm already thinking. I was looking at that picture and I'm like, the best picture ever is going to be when it's reversed. When we win another championship, Jason Tatum's the finals MVP. Oh, so it sounds like you're building a wedge.

So you are thinking about how Jason Tatum needs to win a finals MVP to be on the same level as him? I'm just thinking about how sick that picture will be. You think Tatum will play well enough in the future finals? Of course. Okay. It's interesting, though, because it's the day after you guys win a championship. You're already thinking in the back of your head,

This kind of stinks that Jason didn't get MVP. Tatum needs to get one to even it up. Yeah. That's kind of what you just said. It's like there's a rivalry. It's like there's a mini Philly-Boston rivalry. No, I'm just thinking of then what do they say? Because it's crazy how quickly people jump to that. The tension, though, on

when they were announcing the finals MVP was the best part of the game. Oh yeah. Like that was the most thrilling part of the game. I also think if I could be like a little bit serious about basketball here, I think that that does a disservice to the Celtics as a whole, because if you just take Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and you put those two up against some of the other,

big twos in the league. I don't necessarily think that they're the best two in the league. I think that there are some other teams that might have better duo. Well, they are right now. No, the rest of the Celtics, the Celtics were an awesome team. Yeah, they were. Jason and Jalen are very, very good. They're elite basketball players. They both sort of made one of the tiers of first team All-NBA. They're the Pistons.

Oh, like the mid-2000s Pistons. That's correct. They ended star power, need star power to win finals last night. Yeah, well, if you were to take the starting five, even the top six or seven guys in the rotation, the Celtics are without a doubt the best team in the NBA. Their depth is insane. They're very, very good. So when you boil it down to Jason or Jalen...

you know, which one of these guys is going to be the guy that single-handedly carries. That's never going to happen with this team. No, and that's the beauty. It's a team sport. Like, I don't root for one of them more than I root for the other. Sounds like you're just rooting for the Celtics. No, I want that to happen just for the media because then it's like this is what they're going to run with for the next year. You are the media. Yeah, you are the media. You host part of it. I'm not running for it. I'm happy for the Celtics. I'm happy for the team. It is, like I said, Brad Stevens –

deserves as much credit as anyone. Obviously, he's not playing the game, but Joe Mazzulla, Derek White, Brad Stevens made the moves to get Sam Houser was incredible hitting threes. Do you want to do the reveal? The shirt reveal? Yeah. No, take off your hat and show everyone the shaved head. No, but I do have a plan. Oh, okay. Okay.

Plans are important. I'd like to hear this plan. I have volunteered myself. Oh, you're going to do charity, you motherfucker. To go to the first home game, Banner Night, and I'll be in attendance with a fully bald, shaved head. During football season?

Yeah. Wow. It would be like a weeknight. Also the opposite of charity. Yeah. Yeah, that is. I thought he was going to do like the loves for love. His hair is not long enough for that. I was nervous. He was going to flip locks. Lockwood for, for love. See big cat. The thing about me is when I know we actually might get my hair off. I'm going to charity because I want people who are less fortunate to have, have my hair. Hank doesn't think about other people that way. I don't think anyone wants to say. So Hank, you, you, you deserve your happiness.

Again, I don't know. Does he? No, he deserves his happiness. The happiness that he has, there's something to back it up. Yeah. I'm not wishing for him to be happy, but he deserves to happen. Are we saying he deserves it in terms of his work? Actually, yeah. No, he deserves to be happy right now because of what happened. Correct. I also think five and a half years is a long time.

You put in the grind, so respect. That's crazy. And there is, like I said before, the Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, people can do revisionist history, but there was a very big debate of whether those two guys can do it together. And they proved they could. Did you like Jalen Brown holding up the trophy with his left hand? Yeah, I liked that. Because he can't dribble with his left.

He's the finals MVP. That is true. He's the finals MVP, which is pretty crazy. It's actually the most amazing thing ever. War of the Wire. To be the finals MVP without only using one hand. Yeah, imagine if he could use two. Every MVP. Can I... Well, let's talk about the Mavs real quick. Also, the clip, and again, I shouldn't... It should be positive. Oh. And I got... People were mad at me for being negative. Wait, what are you going to say?

Did you see the video? And it was a good move. Kyrie, you know, he lost, but the leadership. But he waited on the court and dapped up every Mavericks player as they were walking off. Like, he was the first one in line. He stepped back and then was dapping all the players up, waited for the last person, and followed him in the tunnel.

It was just green and white confetti just falling on his face. You liked that. I liked it. Yeah. I liked it a lot. You liked it a lot. I liked it a lot. You sound like you're getting horny right now. I was just tweeting about the Celtics. I didn't want to say it, but I watched it many times. He gave a little shout out to the fans, too, on the way out. Yeah, no. I feel like the rivalry's over. It's 100% over. He hasn't won in Boston. One in 13? Yeah.

1-13 and I think 0-9 or something in Boston. So what I was going to say with the Mavs, as bad as that finals was, I feel like you can – I would buy stock in Luka because it feels like he's getting shit on. He's 25 years old and he's made all NBA, I think, four out of his first five years, something like that. And Derek Lively is going to be really good for a really long time.

They probably need to add a couple more pieces. But did you hear what he, but Mavs fans like what his press conference after he did the, I might be a free, like I got some things to think about. Oh, I didn't see that. What does he have to think about?

That is what they say when they might be doing free agent or something. Oh, interesting. I don't know. That's what they are saying when they might be doing free agent. I think Luka just needs to get in better shape because this entire finals, every first half, he was the best player on the court, and then he would start to fade, and that is credit to Celtics defense, which is phenomenal. But either way, I would be buying stock in the Mavs because as much as that sucked and you were –

Far away from winning the title because it wasn't really a competitive series. You do have a young nucleus that feels like it will be competing for a lot of years going forward. Derek Lively, yes. I don't know if you're going to get the same Kyrie and Luka magic at the same time that we had. I don't think... I think Luka's going to be... Luka's... The path that Luka's on, he's going to win a title. I would put...

I'd bet it right now. Luka will win a title. I think he probably will. I just don't know if it's going to be with Kyrie. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm just saying, like, Luka is... If the Mavs can keep Luka, you should be... Like, if you're a Mavs fan, as much as today sucks, you should be like, well, we have Luka, so we have a chance to win a title, essentially, for the next seven to ten years. Yeah, I mean, the way that your team's constructed, you...

Silence a lot of critics when you beat the Timberwolves, when you beat the Nuggets. Or no, the Timberwolves beat the Nuggets, you beat the Timberwolves. That was a big series for you guys. It's not a fluke that you're there. Yeah. You're that good offensively. And the defense is pretty good, but the problem with the Celtics is they're just too deep. What are you finding, Hank? You finding this?

Trying to make sure he said that. I don't think he did. I don't see it. I have one thing that we didn't talk about. Actually, memes brought this to my attention. Okay, because I have another thing that's maybe going to get a little negative that I don't. Maybe Hank should leave the room. Okay. But go ahead. Well, mine is the Jason Tatum, Kevin Garnett. Yes. So that was it. That was what I was going to say. Hank, would you like to speak at all about the fact that Jason Tatum has negative aura?

I think we have a real-life case of this in our own crew, and it's just something with the younger generation. Like, everyone, it's just all nostalgia in today's day and age. It's just, you know, they wear the old jerseys. They just remake the same movies. Everyone's on social media, the memes. Yeah.

He has a little bit of that. Like, he just kind of speaks in memes and thinks in memes. Oh. What do you mean with your own crew? Who do you mean? Memes speaks in memes. Memes does speak in memes. Thinks in memes. Yeah. He thinks in memes. So you think Jason Tatum speaks and thinks in memes. It just didn't feel authentic, which, again, this is very nitpicky because they just won the title. They did do it. They did do it. He said we did it. They did it. And then he also did the Kanye at the after party. Oh. That was a... He's just...

Yeah, he speaks in memes. What was the Kanye? It was like everyone was wondering what would happen if we didn't win the title. I guess you'll never know. Oh, okay. For a second I thought he might have thanked his doctor. I'm not going to say what kind of doctor. No, no, no. Honestly, I don't give a shit if he doesn't have aura. Nor should you. And he does. Well, I don't know. I don't know if he has aura. Jalen Brown has aura.

Jalen Brown has aura. Wearing the mask. Yeah. Something about Jalen Brown, he seems very cool. Yeah. What? Would you say Jalen Brown has more aura than Jason Tatum? No. Oh. I think they have equal aura. You do. No. Now you're not just here. How can you have the same aura when Jalen Brown has a Finals MVP? I would say that Jason Tatum, I feel like you either have aura or you don't. Right. And Jalen Brown has it and Jason Tatum doesn't. I think it's a rare thing to have. Yeah. Almost as rare as winning Finals MVP. Yeah.

I'd say exactly as rare. Yeah. So they both have no aura? Just be honest with us for a second. It's okay. No, I know. I'm not trying to shit on either. I'm not trying to say he has no aura. Yeah, Jalen Brown has a little more aura, but they both have aura. I think Deuce has aura.

Dude's had the best night of his life. Dude's had way more horror than his dad. Yeah. I mean, it's like, yeah, that kid got to, he was an NBA champion last night. Listen, no one cares. Like, Jason Tatum doesn't care that people are making fun of him online right now. He just won the title. Who cares? It would be funny. But it was a crit.

It was a little bit of a rush. He's refreshing the timeline, seeing all the memes, and he's immediately put down in the dumps with the trophy. They're clowning me. They're saying I'm corny. What did he say when he tried to do the KG? The best, he said, we did it. We did it. We did it. But they did. Right, I know. He looked up the same way the KG did. Yeah. It looked like he practiced it.

I want just an authentic moment there. He'd just be authentic and be like, that was fucking awesome. On the flip side, the picture of him throwing deuce is the most authentic picture. I agree. And that's one of the best pictures in sports history. That had a little aura to it. Right. It was more deuce, but that had aura. Yeah, it wasn't the most natural moment. Yeah, okay, there we go. We got that. You don't think texting Kobe and then posting a screenshot, that's not aura? I don't think so. No? You think he texted Kobe?

It is cool, though, looking back at the Tatum when he tweeted at LeBron asking for a follow. That's one of my favorite. Yeah. When he – let me pull it up. And they had – when Jalen Brown – I think it was right after he got drafted or before he got drafted. He went to the finals when the Warriors were playing and they were following him for like NBA TV or some piece. Yeah.

And he was just like, I want to get here. I'm going to get here. Yeah. And like the young Al Horford, the picture, you know, because I'm very happy. He was on the Celtics with young Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown, and left. And somehow the teams let him come back. Right. And what happened when he left? He signed a huge contract, got a fat bag, fat bag from the Philadelphia 76ers. They didn't have any other players that they were going to give that bag to.

Yeah, no, I mean, it's a great NBA champion, college champion. It was a good signing for them, bad organization, so they didn't work out. But it's just a miracle that he got back, basically for nothing, which, again, is Brad Stevens. Yeah, the Jason Tatum tweet to LeBron was when he was 14 years old. He said, King James, follow back. It's Larry Hughes, nephew from St. Louis, and Aben, RJ, little cousin, and Justin's son, follow back. I love that. I love that.

I love that. And the Matthew Tuchok. What did you say? Tuchok. What is it? Tuchok. Tuchok. Is it spelled? Learn puck. Yeah. He gave him a shout out afterwards. He's like, get another one for a kid from St. Louis. Yeah. Well, that video is the virus. Yeah, no, it is. It is. And we'll put in. I love basketball. In a second. Yeah. But yeah. My guy, Matthew Tuchok. So you're okay with just the allegations of negative aura?

But you also literally just said that the picture of him and Deuce was aura. That's a picture, though. That was also because of Deuce. Minus, but... You said Deuce had the aura. Deuce had the aura. He's aura of the explorer. So he's got aura DNA. He's got aura in his DNA. No, it could come from the mom. That's what you just said. No, it could come from the mom. It's true. It could come from the mom. You inherit that from mother's side, yeah. Yeah.

You know who's got aura is Derek White. Yes. Derek White's got aura. He's the best. Smashing the tooth open. What do you say afterwards? Like I would give up all my teeth for a championship. I'm pretty sure he was concussed. Yeah. Because he did not. He was like deadpan. And we were talking about in the gambling cave. It has to suck. I know that it's obviously incredible to win a title, but you win a title and you're like, this is going to be the best week of my life. We're going to go party. And in the back of the head, anyone who's ever had tooth pain, he

He just keeps running his tongue over his broken tooth being like, God fucking damn it. Yeah. This fucking sucks. Like you've gone all your life with a great smile. Yeah. And then you get ready to take the most important picture of your life. Yeah. Holding up the NBA trophy. He did no teeth. That's badass though. Yeah. Yeah. It is cool. And it's a hockey guy move to say like, yeah, I'll give it my all. And those are the pictures that get like hung up in bars forever. Like it's always like the cool, like bloody or like whatever. Like that's a badass picture. But that does have to suck though. Deep down where he's just like, God damn it. I wish my teeth weren't.

weren't broken that I feel like that's like after the parade because he's gonna have adrenaline they went to Miami they I like they I think Windhorse said they wrote on the whiteboard before the game flight to Miami at noon oh wow they had it booked I like that that's pretty cool happy 617 day also yeah 617 pretty impressive are you guys doing championships every time the cicadas come out no that's way too much time no between yeah I hope not

I feel like the last two championships. What, 2008? 16. 16 years, yeah. So the Skaters are 17. But yeah, hopefully we don't wait this long. Again, that 2008 Celtics team is when I fell in love with the Celtics and really started following them after that. Frontrunner. Yeah, I mean, a little bit for sure. God forbid you root for a team that's good.

Yeah, I mean, I was 13 years old. It wasn't like I was like... Max is really hurt right now. He's just... Were you just like a diehard Sixers fan when you were 11? Yeah, I was of every sport when I grew up. Well, I was a Celtics fan, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I was watching every game and following it. After that season, I started following it forever and here on out, so... Yeah, you and I are just different. That's fine. He's hurt. He's a hurt animal. But...

It's great that they won one. They're legends forever. It does feel, and they say it, that they should have won more. They could have won more. So hopefully that doesn't happen again. What did Dave say afterwards? Heroes die? Yeah. Screwed up. Said he got a little too high from the cigar. What happened with Donnie lighting the cigar on the wrong end? That was great. I don't know what he was thinking. I think that's just Donnie being Donnie. Did you guys go party? No. I played pinball here for like an hour and a half. Oh, that's beautiful. Drank some Coors Lights. You also just showed up.

very early today earlier than usual no i go i showed the same time i go to the gym eight to nine then i walk in yeah man you were here pepping your step so much i mean it's you have to it's the best yeah it's getting nice i didn't sleep you're watching every highlight all right we've done enough of this we already did this come on you get any nice texts yeah uh who anyone congratulate you here i did not jake texted me big cat texted me

I think that's it. Wow. I verbally congratulated you. The first thing I said when I saw you was what? Yeah, you said congrats. And you did it at halftime when you left the office. Oh, yeah, I did it early. So memes and Max did not. Memes and Max did not. Memes was quick to post, you know, the third almost share. But the bald head got rave reviews, so. Yeah. It does. It looks good. Oh, how about Missoula, by the way, coaching on a torn meniscus? I know. Fucking beast. Yeah.

We'll ask him. Yeah. Yeah. So, okay, we're going to take – I mean, we can keep going. We can honestly talk about it. No, I do have one more stat here. So Peyton Pritchard, the king of last-second shots in the gambling cave, we called it before it happened. Like put him in. He can close out a quarter like nobody's business. Stat hole, look this up. He is 10 for 37 with less than one second left in a quarter. He's pretty good. He's one of the better players of all time.

You know who the best is? Pau Gasol. Pau Gasol shot 47%. He went 22 for 47 in his career with less than one second left in the quarter. Wow. That's crazy, isn't it? Shout out to the king. Clutch. Clutch. Yeah, the slow-mo cams with that are great when he just takes like 10 steps. Yeah. Knowing that, because in real time it doesn't...

You're not going to catch that. But when they have the NBA Phantom Cam, it's great to see. Yeah. Okay, so we'll talk about the Stanley Cup, and then we're going to do Hot Seat Cool Throne. Okay, PFT, we promised the people that we would update the show before we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne and Joe Mazzulla with Stanley Cup Final Game 5. And we thought we would be talking about another championship tonight. Instead...

They're dragging their ass back to Alberta. That was the series. That's what they kept on saying. I love that. Don't let it. Don't let us drag you back to Edmonton. Don't let us do it. We're going to drag you all the way back. And Connor McDavid was fucking unreal. That goal. I think it was the third goal. Fourth goal. Maybe.

where he just diced up the entire Panthers defense and then dished it at the last second to Corey Perry. I'm starting to think this guy could win the big one.

So Connor McDavid should just do that every single time. If he's capable of doing that, just do that more. And I think that's the key to the game. Not to get all technical and in the weeds when it comes to hockey strategy, but just have Connor McDavid go one on four and then make a sick pass at the end. And that's pretty much unstoppable. I don't care. I don't care who Bob thinks he is, but you're not stopping that guy. It was awesome. It was good hockey. Second period, period of the week.

Yep. Easy. And actually, even the end when the goalie gets pulled and you're like, okay, game's over, the Panthers survived like multiple times where I thought there was going to be an empty netter and kept you on the edge of your seat. And it was just a great, great hockey game. The NHL is going to have to step up where the NBA failed us in maybe delivering us a classic final. If this one goes seven, whoo. I mean...

It was just great hockey. Great fucking hockey. I'm putting this on the nation of Canada. Our hat, our neighbors to the north, Canada. Do the right thing. Give us seven games. This is a legacy series for Canada. Need to just buy some time before we get into dog days. If the hockey is going to be this good, I want more of it. I want two more games. I agree. I agree. What did Connor McDavid – he had –

Yeah, I think two goals and two assists. Yeah, he was crazy. The save that Kachuk made at the end is going to not be talked about. Maybe, you know what, I actually think that now that I'm saying it, people will say nobody's going to talk about the Kachuk save. A lot of people are going to talk about that part of it. But it was awesome, hustling at the end, and he should have knocked the net off its moorings.

That would have been a smart play, a heads-up play. But, yeah, it was great hockey. The Cats are getting dragged back. I saw a lot of GIFs of Cats just getting dragged across rooms. Kind of concerning that it's so easy to find a GIF of a Cat getting dragged, but here we are on the internet. But, yeah, let's go hockey. Give us more. Great hockey. Great fucking hockey. And we got a game six dragging all the way back to Edmonton on Friday night. Before we do hot seat cool throwing back to ourselves, Hank,

I know that we talked about Aura. Have you seen the video that is now circulating? No. Can I send it to you and get a live reaction? Max, I'm sure you have seen this. No. I also have. I feel a reach. No, it's not a reach at all. It's not a reach at all. It's just a mashup. It's a fun mashup, and I want you to watch it.

And everything I said stands that like Tatum shouldn't have to apologize to any. He's a champion. Who cares if he's getting made fun of online? But I saw it and I had to bring it up. I sent it to everyone. Why don't you narrate it? Max, why don't you narrate it when you're watching it? This is after what we talked. We talked about all of this. I know we did. But this is the new mashup that I didn't realize is all of it.

What are they going to say now? Like Steph Curry is not the only person that said that there's no, like it's a, it's a video of Jason saying, I'm saying what they're going to say now. And then Steph Curry saying it, I would have to imagine that's said in like a majority of championship locker rooms after when no, but it's a little bit tougher after he's already done it two other times in the same night with other people, the KG one, he didn't say anything is possible. It,

He said we did it. He was trying to do, yeah. His body language. That's people's interpretation. Art is interpretation. You're interpreting that way. He didn't copy Kevin Garnett. If you're saying that Steph Curry has trademarked the phrase, what they going to say now, that's crazy. The Kanye one, that was word for word. He did it on stage in the same way. That was imitation. Was there another one in there?

This is a good video. This is a very interesting video, and it's from Hater Report. I'm going to have to give Hater Report a follow. It sounds like they're doing good things there. It's pictures of him hugging the trophy and then a picture of MJ and Kobe hugging the trophy. Every fucking player. I agree with that part. That part was a reach. That part was a reach. That part was a reach. I completely agree. You know what he did right after they won? What are they going to say now? Hank, you know what he did right after they won?

He sprayed champagne. Yeah. Oh, what? Yeah. Just like, just, I can think of a couple of guys that have done that. He's LeBron, Michael Jordan. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's probably a reach. I'm just, uh, I just, it was going viral on Twitter. So I thought we would talk about it, but that's fine. Yeah, no, it's fair. I do like the cat. I don't think Tatum should apologize for anything. I'm on your side, Hank. I'm just pointing this out.

Are you saying that what they're going to say now is Steph Curry? I can't get over that one. I think Steph Curry has a trademark. I can't even like... What they're going to say now? Have you heard it? What they're going to say now? All right. You know what? Google will decide. See what the Google trend on that is. There's probably a book written about it. First hit is Steph Curry. Wait, Hank. I'm saying Jason Tatum. Hank, what were you going to say? There's probably a book written about it?

Yeah, about like the fucking St. John's Chicago men's basketball team from 1990 or something. What are they going to say now? St. John's Chicago. Yeah. 1990. But the fact that there's so many people that have titled videos what they're going to say now, Steph Curry. What are they going to say now? Shane Holloway, head coach. What did he say? Where are you seeing that? What did they say now? Oh, Angel Reese said what they're going to say now. Huh. Steph Curry.

What they're going to say now? He did do a tweet, too. He's a lot of the top. Soul Retriever on Instagram. What are they going to say now with a video of his shoes? 57 likes, two comments. Sounds like it's pretty. Sammy Hager. What they going to say now? 1987. Wait, Sammy Hagar? Yeah. Hager. Sang for Van Halen?

yeah will's alatoris in 2022 when he made the final putt what are they gonna say now like that one is that's such a that's a beyond reach and he didn't copy kg they're just like interpreting that video that way but he didn't say the same words ron suno and zay muna what they gonna say we're debunking this yeah this is good we've debunked yeah i agree still bad aura

I can't wait for it to reach another parade. It really just shows the true salt and denial that haters are in. No, but it's good. This is an ongoing narrative. Now we can take every word that he says in public and then cross-reference it to see if it's plagiarized. I like that. Friends, 1994, season six, episode three. You're going to say things now, aren't you? That's basically the same thing, right? Yeah.

Okay, last two things before we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne. R.I.P. Willie Mays. Incredible life. Incredible baseball player. One of the most iconic catches of all time. I mean, is he – he's on the Mount Rushmore of baseball players, right? Yeah, he's in the GOAT category. Yeah. A lot of people, if you're like above the age of 50, you think that Willie Mays is the best baseball player to ever live. Yes, sir.

Yeah, the Say Hey Kid. Great nickname. And that catch, the over-the-shoulder catch, every time I watch it, I'm always amazed that they actually played baseball on that field. Yeah, the polo grounds? It was like 500 feet to straightaway center. It was a rectangle. Yeah, he's an all-time, all-time legend. 93, hell of a life. That's a hell of a life. We all would be lucky to live to 93. But what is the Say Hey Kid from?

I think there was a song that they wrote about him called Say Hey. He was given his famous moniker, Say Hey Kid. Quit costing the ball club money with long-distance phone calls and joined the team. It was also around the time that Mays was given his famous moniker, the Say Hey Kid. Yeah, one of the greatest of all time. So RIP Willie Mays. And then what happened with Aaron Judge?

He got hit by a pitch and he got x-rays. So they were saying that maybe they threw at Aaron Judge intentionally. That might have just been Jason Lockett for the old Washington Post guy that was saying, like, good, I'm glad they threw at him because Soho ran into the third baseman on the Orioles and I guess knocked him out of the game with a hip injury. And so some people were saying that maybe they went inside on Judge as retaliation for Soto. Yeah.

I don't know if that's the case. I don't think that's the case, but I think the x-ray you said, Jake, was negative, right? X-rays and scans have been negative. Oh, I found the Say Hey Kid. Mays received $6,000 for signing with the Giants after graduating high school in 1950. New York Journal American sports writer Barney Kremenko said that in Mays' rookie season, the reticent Mays would blurt, say who, say what, say where, say hey, what are they going to say now?

In my paper, I tabbed him to say, hey, kid, it's stuck. I might add it to the last one. When I entered MLB Network, the cafeteria was the say, hey, cafe. Oh. I mean, nothing better than getting a cafeteria named after you. Don't act like you wouldn't be flattered by that, Big Cat. Duh, better than an airport.

Yeah, absolutely. Cafeteria is not bad. People are happy in a cafeteria. Yeah. I would much rather cafeteria than an airport or a highway. Those would suck. I think my dream is a horse. Horse would be good. Horse would be great. To say, hey, horse. What if it loses? Yeah, true. Hank had a horse named after him. It sucked. He's just finishing his race right now at Saratoga. That's how slow he was. And that was he raced 10 years ago.

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CoorsLight.com slash, sorry, CoorsLightBackstageSixPack.com all summer long for the drops. All right, Hank, your hot seat, cool throw. My hot seat are the haters. Oh. Any in this room? Not in this room. Any in the other room? No, not them. They're not in the hot seat. They know where they're at. But the Oilers girl came online and just made a video just saying she's sick of the haters and to fuck off, basically. Good for her. She had haters? Yeah.

Yeah, I'll play the clip. She did have some haters. Can we do the video of the clip, actually? Wait, no, Max will get the clip. Here we are. So I've thought long and hard. I want to watch the clip. Max will get the clip. I want to watch the clip. The name's Kate. It's got all the info. Oilers girl. Actually, my name's Kate, but here we are. So I've thought long and hard about what I wanted to say to everybody. Anybody who knows me knows that I'm at one of my favorite places right now.

Come here to do some thinking, we'll call it. But I just wanted to say, you could be the most perfect godly fucking person in the world. You could save kittens from a river if they were drowning. Someone's still going to hate you. So you know what? At the end of the day, I got drunk and whipped my tits out at an Oilers game and they went viral. Fuck you if you don't like it.

Woo! Go Oilers! She makes a lot of good points. I was just waiting for her to show her teeth. Like, that would have been a great mic drop. I think she is wise beyond her years. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Agreed. You could save burning kittens from a river, and they would find something wrong with you. Yep. The internet sucks. If we can't just get behind a nice pair of tits, what are we doing?

And your cool throne, Hank? Cool throne? My cool throne is these great shirts. All right, now I regret Luke doing all that glazing. Okay, Lucky, Q and the Duck Boats. Duck Boats, City of Champions, Max, we can get one of these for you. Plug God. Yep. I do love, but I hate at the same time, the Titletown shirt that has all the banners on there. It's obnoxious, but I love it for you. 18 years.

Look at that. Nothing but success. Nothing but success. Nothing but success. For Jalen Brown, you're right. Yeah. Even in the aura department. They have aura. They? They. Yeah, weird. I never claimed Jalen Brown didn't have aura. He's got fucking aura coming out of his ears. Two people can't share the aura. No? No. Which one of you guys has aura? There's only one aura. Which one of you guys has aura? No, no, no. Hank has. Which one of you guys has aura? Hank, you have the aura. On this podcast, you have the aura. Championship DNA. Yeah. Yeah.

You have positive aura. All right, PFT, your hot seat cool throne? My hot seat is Les Miles. Les Miles because he's suing LSU because they vacated his wins. They vacated some of his wins as a coach. And gave him to Coach K? They did not do that. But the reason why he's suing them is actually kind of interesting. So to get into the College Football Hall of Fame, you have to have, I believe, a 60% winning percentage.

Right? Yeah. I'm just looking at Hank because we're not talking about the Celtics, so you just went right to texting. Probably tuned out. Yeah. Okay, keep going. Sorry. All right, so- Very rude of you, Hank. So Les Miles- We're going to do five minutes not on the Celtics. I was scheduling. Sorry. Okay. What were you scheduling? A meeting. Oh. What? Always grinding. About the production plan for the interview. Oh, okay. Okay. All right, so Les Miles had his wins vacated by- Hank, I'm up here. Yeah.

His wins were vacated by LSU. He had a 65% winning percentage. That's how you're looking. I'm talking. Oh, man. I'm talking, Hank. We're getting spicy. Hey, Max, cut Hank's mic off. Thank you. We're getting spicy. All right. So I promise this is interesting. Okay, I'm listening. So he had like a 65% career winning percentage. To get into the College Football Hall of Fame as a coach, you have to have a 60% winning percentage.

the wins that were vacated by LSU drops it down to 59.7%. So Les Miles can no longer get into the Hall of Fame because LSU vacated his wins. So he's suing LSU to try to get back. I don't know if LSU should give in to him, but what I think LSU should do, find something that happened when Nick Saban was there. Because Nick Saban is up for eligibility next year, and if they took away his wins at LSU...

That might drop below. No chance. You don't think so? Below what? Total. Of what? Because I think. Total what? Wait, do the losses remain? Yeah, but even if they took away all the wins, but you're saying percentage. If the losses remained, but the wins were big. And what's the percentage? You have to be 60? 60, yeah. PFT.

If they kept the losses? PFT, do you know Alabama's record? Yeah, I know Alabama's record. I don't think you do. Yeah, they were really fucking good. When they go 12-1 every year, that's... It doesn't matter. It was a great idea that I had. That's... We gotta... What was his record while he was at LSU? He's talking. That was... I was with you, PFT, until you said if we eliminate Nick Saban's LSU... Because if you want to be a real hater, you could do that to a coach that left you and then came and coached for your rival. I understand, but Nick Saban's...

Hank, your mic's not on. You're not mic's on. No, no, no, no, no. Double mute. How many wins did Nick Saban have at LSU? Let's find that. Oh, he was only there for five years. Yeah, you're right. Okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm wrong. You're right. I'm wrong. You're right. Nick Saban's... He was 48 and 16.

Nick Saban's win percentage rate is 80%. Yeah. He's very far away. 292 and 71. Yeah. So he could end the tie. Well, in theory, what if Michigan State finds something and LSU finds something? Nick Saban. Hank, go ahead, Hank. Check, check, check. Hank, go ahead. Check, check, check. Put Hank back on. What if PFT, they can add his NFL losses?

Well, he's only like one season. Yeah. All right. I'm sorry. I'm trying to help you out. My bad. No, it was a dumb idea. I had a dumb idea. I'm sorry. This show's built on dumb ideas. That's true. If you took away 140 of his losses, I think he'd still be in the Hall of Fame. He could lose like almost all his losses. That's correct. I mean, all his wins. All his wins. Yeah. Okay. Let me save this for you. I think LSU should acquiesce to Les Miles. Let me save this for you.

The rule that you have to have 60% to make the College Football Hall of Fame is bullshit and should be changed because I did see this last week. Mike Leach is like 0.03% away. Okay. They need to let Mike Leach in the Hall of Fame. Yeah, because who's to say that you weren't a giant contributor to the game if you didn't happen to have 60% or more. Right. It's crazy. And he was that close, and he obviously tragically passed when he was going to still coach more.

That's crazy. So let Mike Leach in. Let Mike Leach in and then probably let Les Miles in. Yeah. And also, but just to be haters. And also figure out how Saban can. Also, just to be haters, they should vacate all of Nick Saban's wins so it looks worse on him. Yeah. If you're real about the rivalry. Yeah. You would find a way to do that. I'm doing the math right now. I think it would be. Yeah. So if they vacated 182 of Nick Saban's wins.

What'd you do, Hank? Did he spill? There's something very bad breaking news is coming. Oh, no. All right, breaking news. Max thinks this is bad. He just said, oh, God. Oh, God. Celtics official account. And here's what I'm going to tell you today. I got the Dallas Mavericks. I think there's going to be a parade in Dallas. Who do you really beat, though? Who do you really beat? I have Dallas. I think Dallas will win. So obviously I'm going with Dallas.

Oh, no. The Celtics are not beating Luka.

I like how Max got second billing to the corgi that knocks basketball stuff. Yeah. We couldn't even get a clip. Oh, that must double stink for Max because he hates dogs too. Oh, no, Max. I think that's an honor, Max. I think you can spin that as being like, whoa, they value my opinion. I mean, it just further cements me as like such a fucking loser. But the problem is – I'm just a historic loser. Here's the problem, Max, for you here. Picking Dallas is like –

You have to pick the series. Some people pick Dallas. Some people pick the Celtics. I never think it's like, ooh, gotcha, you picked the wrong side. That's what we do. But typing out the Celtics are not beating Luka. That was also a game where I bet the Timberwolves. It was the game that the Mavs beat the Timberwolves, and I bet the Timberwolves big, and I was so pissed off. I was like, Luka is so fucking good. I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to spin this.

The Celtics are not beating Luka. The Celtics are not beating Luka. And that was very incorrect. Damn. Damn. I'm sorry that happened to you. Yeah, I mean, it's whatever. Let's finish the video out. That could get to the finals, but it won't win it. But it's no longer what could be or what might be. Now it just is. That's the worst. And then watching this past week when Boston sweeps Dallas or something like that, we got to sit here and be like, well, I guess we were wrong.

Mmm, Max. Also, one thing we didn't talk about, too. That got me scared for a second. Oh, that got me. Yeah, no, that was crazy. I was like, I thought someone died. Yeah. It's just our boy Max falling on his face yet again. This could be bad. You really could have just been like, we need to make, someone needs to remake that, the video of the guy just fumbling all the Tupperware and everything. It just, that's Max. We should just do that video. Yeah. Just put a bunch of shit in Max's hands and have him make that for us. Oh, Max pooped his pants again. That's not really breaking moves. That's, you know.

The sun comes up. Max does something that makes him be a loser. The sun goes down. There's no breaking moves in that. Hank's talking about, like, can't win the big one. When I win the big one, that'll be a big moment. What are you going to do? It'll never happen. I actually kind of want to see it. No, no, no. What are you going to do? Max, you're the producer of the show. It is cool that, like, a team that just won the NBA championship are listeners and fans of yours, right? No, I mean, it's just...

That's a cool thing. That's a really cool thing. That's really cool. That's what I said. Big God's always said, if you're going to be wrong, be really, really wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. At least I'm known for being very wrong and very much a loser with every sport that I root for. Right. You got aura. Yeah. I have losing aura. Heavy. I have heavy losing aura. You got Laura, yeah. Yeah. Laura.

Okay, where were we? I was being very, very wrong about something. What was it? Les Miles hot seat. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they took away 182 of Nick Saban's wins, he would still have over 60%. Okay, well, that's probably not going to happen. But I tried. But maybe. But I tried. The other hot seat is Justin Timberlake.

Oh. Got a DUI in the Hamptons. Uh-oh. Yeah. It's pretty bad. Pretty bad stuff. A picture came out of him in handcuffs being let out of the police station. And then a bunch of old clips of him saying, like, don't drink and drive came out. Oof. Old takes exposed on that one. And then he also, he was complaining about Brittany and telling her she needs to stop drinking. Oh. All those resurfaced, too. Oh. So it's tough. It's tough for old JT. Don't drink and drive. Oh.

Also, there's like no, aren't there no roads? There's like one road in the Hamptons. Can't he just get, he should get a cab. He should have a driver. You get an Uber. He should get a driver. I don't know why rich people don't have drivers. Yeah. And I don't know why you don't call an Uber. This is viral marketing for summer house, which by the way is an excellent show. I don't know if you've seen that. Uh,

It's terrible. It's actually the worst show I've ever seen, but it's so bad that it's good. Okay. Check it out. Yeah. So Justin Timberlake, Hot Seat. And then my cool throne is Notes Apps. Oh, yeah. I had this as well. Big day for Notes Apps. Big day. Rory McIlroy gave maybe the most important Notes App that we've all been waiting for.

Everyone was like, he's going to apologize. He has to apologize. He gave a no tap apology without actually apologizing for anything. For the wheel spinning? He did not apologize for the wheel spinning. What? He said, firstly, I'd like to congratulate Bryson. Yesterday was a tough day, probably the toughest I've had in my nearly 17 years as a professional golfer. Bryson is a worthy champion and exactly what professional golf needs right now. I think we can all agree on that. Then he gets to, as I reflect on my week...

I will rue a few things over the course of the tournament, mostly two missed putts on 16 and 18 in the final day. But as I always do, I'll look back at the positives that far outweigh the negatives. And then he goes on, doesn't apologize, though. Doesn't apologize for not talking to the media. Doesn't apologize for almost hitting several spectators in the parking lot. Doesn't apologize for getting on a plane before Bryson got the championship trophy. So it's a no-tap apology with no apology from Rory.

Damn. Still, you know it's serious when he's in dark mode. I would have liked to see an apology about the wheels spinning specifically. Yeah. In the tournament issue Lexus. I feel like the dark mode was an intentional choice on his part to convey seriousness. Yeah. If you just go normal daytime mode, that's more of a jovial notes app. But yeah, he was trying to convey being apologetic without apologizing. Yeah. So he might need to do a notes app for the notes app.

And say, I apologize for not apologizing. Yeah. Which would still not be an apology. Wouldn't be an apology. For the original thing. Correct. We need a triple apology. We've all played golf in the last couple of days. I feel like he is not going to. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

PFT and I got up at 7 in the morning to play nine holes with Frankie. Oh, no, Big Cat. This is inconsequential. I woke at 5.30. This is completely inconsequential. PFT and I got up at 5.30 in the morning. I got up at 5.30 on Monday after we did this show late. PFT got up at 5.30 after the NBA Finals on Tuesday to do nine holes with our good friend Frankie Borelli coming out soon. Which I'm happy to do. Hank, you golfed for all of Monday. Yeah.

I was here Monday. We streamed last night. I was here. I was the last person in this building last night. What time were you here until last night, Big Cat? What time did you get to golf? What time did you wake up to go golf? 6.30. You only played nine holes? No, I played 18. We were participating in the Classic. I played too. I'm not going to escape. So was that for content? Yeah, I posted content. We quite literally were entertaining clients. Oh. I posted a video. Everyone made fun of me. How'd you play?

I played not great. Jake carried us. Nice trying lumping us all in. No, see, that's where it's like inconsequential because all I was saying and because you guys also maybe felt this is if I was Rory, I don't think I would golf for like a month. Like looking at a putt that's shorter than four feet.

is actual PTSD for him. Well, he's not. He said in the notes app he's taking off until they go to Europe. Shout out Smiley for calling that. He's going to pull out. By the way, did you guys have a putt where you're like, if I was Rory, I would be sick? Hank, I don't think a putt exists on planet Earth that you could miss and then take three months off from golfing afterwards.

If I lost the U.S. Open because of two three-footers, my hand up, I would take three months off. Wow. By the way, we've been doing this show for so long. Did you know this, Hank? I fucked up on Sunday night.

We had Smiley Kaufman on. Great interview. We've had him on before. I told you that. I forgot. Yeah. I forgot. Yeah. It was like 2018, maybe? 17. Earlier than that, yeah. Yeah, 17. That's my fault. He's going to be on again. Him and Ricky. Ricky gets no respect as one of the better interviews we had early on in this podcast. Yeah, he was great. All right, my hot seat is Landon Donovan. Landon Donovan's hair at the Euros. Holy shit.

So I think he got a hair transplant and it didn't take. Well, I think it's a recent process. It's a recent one. Yeah. So it looks like his shoulders are eating the back of his head. And he was told before he did it that he would not have that part of his head on TV. But then he turned to the side and immediately everybody was like, holy shit, what is wrong with Landon Donovan? It's so bad. This is how bad if you miss the picture, you can go look it up. But I'll explain it to you if you're listening and not watching.

It is so bad that I posted it. And then about an hour later, I went back to it and said to myself, wait, did he just have like brain surgery for a tumor or something? Did I fuck up? Because that's how bad his hair looks. Yeah. Just wear a hat. Land. It's a, it's, it's the reverse mullet. It's, it's horrendous. It looks like,

He went through a medical emergency. It looks like he had said that he would shave his head if the Mavericks won the NBA Finals, and then after they won that game, he's like, okay, let's do this in steps. Yeah, I don't know how you come back from that. Hopefully with a full head of hair. That would rock. But now everyone knows, too. But still, in this day and age. Yeah, just wear a toupee. I don't understand what happened to toupees. Toupes and just daring people to say, oh, you're wearing a toupee, would be so much fun.

Just rocking a terrible toupee. If you're open about the toupee. Right. Yeah. If you're if I ever have male pattern baldness, I will rock a toupee and it will be horrendous. And I dare you to say something. Yeah, it's a it's a really, really bad. If you're you know, you're going to be on TV. Just deal with one more week. Right. Of

Of having the shitty hair. Right. Or just shave your head and do schedule. You knew the Euros were coming. Yeah. Schedule your hair transplant after. Yeah. All right. My cool throne is our guy, J.O.C. He released a great video. Can you play it for us, Max? Congratulating Hank on his big win. He also was, I think, about to drown in the ocean when he posted this. But this is a congrats Hank video from Jerry O'Connell.

Hanky, Luke was back, missed the bing bong. Congrats on your Celtics, worst finals ever, sleepy finals. Sleepy Hank, bing bong. Time to get back outside, in the waves, in the sun, with the birds, I'm a bird, just like your high school science teacher, bing bong, tweet tweet.

Speaking of birds, Tiffany Gomez is flying the birds. She's a pilot. You could have been a co-pilot, but you blew it. You blew it. Even Belichick's got a girlfriend. He does her homework. Bing bong. Your backswing sucks. Right now. You're

Your backswing sucks. That felt unnecessary. That was the only part of that where I was like, what the hell, Jerry? Even Belichick has a girlfriend. It's so good. So Jerry went to the beach to get away from his wife so she wouldn't know that he was recording this video. Yes. That's what I love about this. Yeah. No, I think he was at the beach. He went in the water to get away from her. From his supermodel wife. Yes. They probably were...

At the beach as a family, and he's like, I'm going to go in the water real quick just to do this video. Scream at my phone for 15 seconds. Oh, he's the best. We need a Celtics-Knicks series next year. Just fly him in for the whole thing. It'd be great. Yeah. It's so funny to think about Jerry. He's a real person who has a real job on TV.

And just half his day is like, what is Tiffany Gomez saying? And let me listen to PMT. I love him. This show is on CBS, right? It's on national television. His show is so funny too. Yeah. So funny. All right, Jake, finish us off. Hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat, sorry, PFT, is Alex Ovechkin.

No, he looks good. Yeah, so there's a picture going around of Ovi playing this sport called Padel, which is going to be this future game that I take on. You guys make fun of me for playing. It's basically a mix of paddle. It's paddle. I've heard it's Padel. Jake is right. It's Padel. There's Padel and there's Padel. There's a difference between Padel and Padel? I think so, yeah. No, it's the same sport. No, this is the one with the glass walls.

Not chain walls? I've played the sport. With the glass walls? It was a chain. It was like a really tightly wound chain that it would bounce off of. Padel is a doubles game only. Oh, that's a really mean tweet. It says, Breaking Alex Ovechkin is expected to replace Joey Chestnut in this year's hot dog eating contest. He looks like... Anyways, people are roasting him for looking big. Is there a chance that maybe he just didn't take off his pads after the last game? There is a chance that that happened. There's also a chance that he's trying to get out of shape so he doesn't get drafted by Putin. Yep.

Trying to stay out of Ukraine. I respect that. He does look large. He looks powerful. That's a man that is old man strength. And that was taken before they started playing? I would say after. All four of them look pretty sweaty. Okay, all right.

Okay. And my cool throne, I think the first time this is ever on the cool throne, the New York Mets. Yes. Their season might have been saved by a hero no one saw coming, and it's Grimace, the McDonald's mascot. He threw out the first pitch last week. Since then, they're 6-0, and they are dominating on the field. The picture of Grimace is awesome. Grimace. It was a decent first pitch for a mascot. Yeah. Yeah.

I should have seen this coming, but I had to do the rundown today because the Celtics won. So Dave texted Kevin and I. Rundown at 11, like first thing this morning. And the rundown ended, and Kevin and I were just talking about how the Cubs suck. And he's like, well, at least I have Grimace. And it was maybe the saddest conversation that's ever happened. I mean, the Mets are only a game out of the wild card. Okay, I have a take real quick.

Major League Baseball completely fucked up the playoffs with this wild card. It's so stupid. The Cubs are a bad baseball team. And they're two games out. And they're two games out. They're in last place in the NL Central. And they're two games out. You shouldn't...

There should not be a playoff spot for, like, you have to be – there has to be a limit. There has to be a – Well, to be fair, if they didn't add the third, they would only be three behind the Cardinals for the second wild card. It's just crazy. I don't know. They're just not a good team. And I look and I'm like, oh, well, you can delude yourself. I don't know. I don't like that they did this in the NBA either. It's my biggest gripe about the play-in that you let owners get off on basically saying, well, we're putting together a playoff team when, no, if you're a play-in team, you're not, like –

It's just bullshit. I think there should be a rule where if you're beneath 500, you shouldn't even be listed in the wildcard possibilities. But you could just owners get to sell their fan base on being competitive when they're not competitive. Here's the thing, though. In baseball, if you get into the playoffs, you do have a chance to win. Anything could happen. Yeah. Anything could happen. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Joe Missoula.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. Less than 24 hours after becoming a world champion, it is Boston Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla. Coach, oh, Hank's clapping for you. Hank's clapping for you in the room. Coach, let's start. I mean, just how are you feeling right now? I know that's the lamest question, but I have to imagine it's just the best feeling in the absolute world.

Yeah, no, I definitely expected more from you for the first question. You know, I just really like gratitude. I mean, it's a lame answer, but for me, it's hasn't really set in yet, I think, because everything just happened so fast and you got to go to a bunch of stuff. But I would say the first word is just, you know, being grateful, you know,

Never thought I would ever be in this position. And this great, like the type of players that we get to coach every day, the type of people we get to be around. It's just an awesome experience. Yeah, I would imagine. How is the knee feeling? Because I didn't know this. I don't know if it was public or not. I didn't realize you were coaching on a torn meniscus. How is it feeling, number one? And then number two, how did having a torn meniscus impact your coaching at all?

Well, listen, that's what happens when you lose games in the regular season. Like you're just not allowed to lose. So after we lost to Atlanta at home, I went out, went on the mats, punished myself and just just pounded my body until it couldn't take anymore and ended up just tearing my knee. So I ended up being a great experience for me. I had to do like six hours of treatment in order to coach the next game without too much of a limp because I could not walk.

But I tell you what, it almost – it was one of the best things that happened to me for the rest of the season because it put me in, like, this fight-or-flight mentality to where, like, I could just not relax. Like, I had to constantly train to keep it pain-free. I had to constantly get, you know, physical therapy. My physical therapist has been great. And it was just – it was awesome. I've been thinking about maybe getting hurt every, like, All-Star break. You're fucking my psycho, and I love it. Wait, so hold on a second. So –

You could make the argument then, the fact that you guys only lost three games in the entire playoffs, that that saved your life. Because if you had gone to a seven-game series, you would have had to go to the mat after all of those times. You could have died. Yeah, absolutely. I think the injury probably did save my life because I was getting carried away. Your intensity is insane.

It was cool, though. Like, it just brought a different level of focus that I had to have because like, it's like it's a like a bucket handle tear and like it would lock and like click from time to time. So like I had to walk slower. I couldn't move certain ways. So it really forced me to focus more. And so it was actually I'm really grateful that it happened.

So that definitely... I missed the mats, though. Yeah. It impacted your shot-blocking ability then, right? You're not able to go out on the court and swat anything away. Yeah, I've always been a two-foot block jumper, not a one-foot jumper. And so I need that power from both of my quads to kind of explode out. And so now that I can only jump off my left, I wasn't able to elevate the way I needed to to get those...

Those deflections and blocks. Yeah. So it's good to see you smiling. I saw a Twitter thread last night of all the guys taking pictures with the Larry O'Brien trophy. And the two pictures I saw of you, you were just not smiling. What was, what was that? Is it like jobs not finished? Yeah.

I was really pissed because I feel like all the other teams have gotten a head start on getting better for next season. It's the middle of June and we're still focused on last season. So I had to get over that for a second. But once I was able to enjoy it, it was a great moment. That thing's heavy, man.

Yeah. Yeah. We're talking with the torn meniscus. Yeah. We're talking to Hank earlier about the, uh, the banner situation, how you guys have a blank banner for the next one that hangs up when you guys do the banner ceremony. Are you just going to unveil a brand new blank banner for next year?

We should. I mean, we should never, we should act like it just didn't happen. Just don't even put anything up. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's gotta be a great feeling. So walk us through what happened after the game. What, what do you do the night after winning an NBA championship? This is like a lifelong accomplishment. Did you take time to celebrate or were you just busy with other, other commitments till now? Um, so what happened? So the corn goes off. You obviously, they, they gather everybody around and find my wife and kids and like spend that time with them. And both my, my kids got to go on stage and,

It was awesome to see them. I got a couple of pictures of like their reactions. And then you go in the back and then like the locker room turns into like a college 21, like an 18 and over nightclub. I was like, I felt like I was back in college again. So that was, that was cool. Had to shower because I was drenched and then had to go to some media stuff. And then you go to like a after party type thing, which we hung around. And then my wife and I stuck around and kind of just walked around the garden to just take in,

the confetti on the floor, visualizing the new banner being up, visualizing the old banner. There was like this blank

There's this blank place in the rafters that I would every national anthem that I would visualize the 2024 one going. And that started in the preseason. And so we were able to just kind of pinpoint that. And you just take in, you know, what the city brings, what the arena brings, everything that comes with, you know, being a Celtic. And last night was like the culmination of like you see the shirt I'm wearing with like Red and Bill Russell, like culmination of history, the culmination of greatness that you experience.

get to be a part of now. Yeah. The, so, so I saw too on the whiteboard before the game, you guys had flight at noon to Miami was, I feel like you're a superstitious guy and,

And that was not before the game. Oh, that wasn't before the game. Okay. All right. Good. Okay. All right. Cause I was like, when I saw that, I was like, no way to coach Missoula that let them do this before a closeout game. All right. So you were still before the game, it was still jobs. You know, you guys better get ready. Let's go. No, absolutely. Yeah. No, that came on right after the game. Okay. All right. That's, that's fair. That's fair. What, uh, so you did, you're down in Miami now. What movie did you watch on the way down to Miami?

Um, we we didn't watch one. We had we had the beats pill going and just had all the music. So just OK, but one of the things are in our in the back locker room before games, all the coaches sit in the same room and each coach picks a different playlist.

And we just bumped music back there the whole time, play a little soccer, listen to music. And so every player's got his – I mean, every coach has his favorite song or favorite playlist. So we were in the coaches' section just kind of going back and forth on all the songs that we listened to throughout the year. All right, so you haven't been able to watch the town as a world champion yet. Not yet. Okay. That's got to be – are you going to cry maybe? Like that's got to be different. So I actually watched it the part of the night before game five. Okay.

The quotes from that, like you can't really say those that much anymore. But quotes from The Departed, like it's just every other line is something that you wish you could say out loud again. That movie is, I love that movie. So I watched that one before Game 5, getting ready, you know, for it. And I haven't watched it in a while, but someone asked me. And my new favorite scene is when like they're about getting ready to rob Fenway and he's like,

He's like, you know, this is going to be hard. Right. And he's like, it's a easy kid. Everybody would do it. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. How, how was it for the team and for you after Friday night, after that, you know, game four, which was, I mean, it was a ass kicking, but you guys still had control of the series and you're going back home. Like, did you, was there, I would assume there's no panic, but that, that had to be at least a little shocking in the manner it happened.

Not really. I mean, we had had a couple of those throughout the year. I think sometimes you lose perspective and like that loss allowed us to keep perspective. Like we had won 10 games in a row in the playoffs, which like doesn't happen. We had only lost two playoff games up until that point. And, you know, I had really trusted our team because like they we bounced back from like small adversities and small times of not playing our best. Like we did it. We had a game like that at Milwaukee. We had a game like that home against New York.

I think we had two games. I think both games against Milwaukee were like that. So, you know, it wasn't no room for panic or anything like that. It was more kind of like, okay, like, you know, why did this happen? And then really trust the guys because we've been able to bounce back and forth. But also just keeping perspective. Like what we've been able to do throughout the playoffs up to that point was really, really hard. And you just got to know that it's never going to be that easy, you know? Yeah. So would you almost rather get your ass kicked like that or lose a close one?

No, I'd rather get my ass kicked than lose a close one. Yeah. Yeah. You lose a close one. Guys play 40, 42 minutes. They're tired. You know, you got to travel back. Like, you know, you get, get blown out, take the guys out. They play 25 minutes, get the boys some rest and, uh, you know, kind of regroup the next day. That couldn't have worked out better for us. Yeah. You were talking about soccer a second ago. I read that you had a pep Guardiola in the stands and that you two have been, you've been talking, right?

No, yeah. We've been friends for two years now. He's a beast, isn't he? Yeah, he is. So did he help you with anything? He did. So I think the way he – so if you don't – his story, he was the Barcelona's, you know, lack of a better phrase, like JV coach. And when they fired their first team coach, they promoted him from within. And he got the Barcelona job.

when it was at its prime, they had just come off a champion league. And instead of going out to get a bigger name, they got a guy like they got him, someone from the inside. And so I had always studied his career because, you know, that that happened. And if someone hires from within of a company like that, you know, they're obviously a special guy. So and they had so much success so fast. I think they won five trophies in their first year. They won 12 in the four years that they were there. And so a lot of our conversations were really built upon

How he handled that first year, like how he handled success at such a young age as a coach, how he handled coaching messy at such a young age and the other superstars that he had, how they gelled and then how he's built long term success.

at, you know, Manchester City. And so he was just able to give, like, great perspective on greatness, how to, like, start it, how to sustain it, and then how to handle, like, the ebbs and flows of it when it doesn't go your way. And then, like, the way he coaches his teams, the tactical stuff, very, very similar. Yeah, yeah. So the loudest moment last night, other than the final buzzer, was when Peyton Pritchard –

hit the half court shot. At what point in the last couple of years did you realize that this is like a secret weapon that you can unleash on the other team? Because it was so funny watching from our perspective, you see Peyton get checked in and we're like, well, he's going to hit this because that's what he's been doing. Tell me, when did that light bulb go off? Like, oh, this is our end of half guy who can do this.

So there's a stat around like when you don't shoot the ball at the end of the quarter, your percentage of winning goes down and our player development coach

who works with Peyton and Sam and some of the other guys, they study those type of stats because a lot of the bench guys, you have your second unit lineups are in at the end of quarters. Your star is usually on in at the end of the quarter. And so we were able to find those stats and our player development staff and Peyton and Sam and those guys take great pride in those little details. And we were able to take advantage of that throughout the season. It's a credit to Peyton because

You like it's the ultimate competitiveness, the ultimate humility to take that shot. And I promise you, and I said this to Peyton during the series, there's never a shot that he shoots that I don't think is going in because of his work ethic and because of his confidence. Like every shot he takes, I think, is going in, whether it's a layup, three pointer or from half court.

Yeah, and a lot of guys, I think, don't like to take those shots because they're low percentage shots for the most part. It might impact the shooting percentage. And Peyton's just like, give me the ball. Give me the rock. I'll do it. This is what I do. I make these. We'll get back to Coach in a second. He's brought to you by the global phenomenon known as House of the Dragon. That's right. The HBO original series, House of the Dragon, is back.

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Would you have maybe put Kristaps in just to let him be on the court for a clinching game? Because Hank here thought you were using Kristaps as a human victory cigar, and that was the only way he was going to get back in the series. We would have used him in one of four or five different situations. So if there was a critical jump ball,

Like that we needed to win. But there was a jump ball in our offensive possession. We would have put him in if there was an end of game situation where he had to guard the rim or like be over the ball to try to get a deflection. And yeah, like if we were winning, I would have put him in the game for a minute or two. And just because like he sacrificed his whole career. Hank was right. Sacrificed his whole career to get to this point.

and to not be a part of it would have just devastated him. And like he had a serious, serious injury and like he worked his ass off to get back and like what he brought for us in game five.

was like unbelievable and really led to winning. And so we have a guy in his career that's been through a lot and sacrificed a lot. Like you want them to be a part of it. So, yeah, I would have used KP in game four under those circumstances. So it's nothing new for this show, but Hank was right. And Max, our producer, the Sixers fan who got upset at Hank for saying that was wrong. So another loss for Max. Yeah.

That's another loss for Max. I mean, Hank knows ball. What can I say? How bad was the injury? Was he, were the trainers saying like, you can't play on this? And he was like, no, I'm going to play. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of how it was, but it was like, we don't know how long the series is going to go on for. Like, let's try to save him from himself because he was trying to play. So let's see if we can get through a game or two. And then like when it was game five at home, it was like, Hey, like, you know, this might be it. Like I gotta be out there. And so, you know, he was like, I'm playing. And so he,

uh overrode the medical team now just like i'm playing and uh it's a credit to him tough guy so this might be a really dumb question so i'm saying that in advance is there a small part of you that wishes that you had lost more games in the nba finals no not even not even a little part not even a little bit where you're like man that would have been sick if we had gone down if we had lost the first game and then we fought back

I mean, I do wish for things to be a lot harder, but no, once we got to the finals, I was like, man, I'll take the easy way if we can. All right. Smart answer. Yeah. Yeah. You're getting soft. So his there was there. I doubt last night you gave a speech, but after the parade on Friday is a Friday's the parade after the parade on Friday. Will you get the team together and be like, hey, guys, fun's over. Time to get back to work.

Well, some of our guys will play in the Olympics. Yeah. But no, I won't do that. Okay. So you have gotten soft. You've gotten soft. I'd love to. I would love to. I mean, I was joking around in the locker room after yesterday. I was like, guys, we're behind here. Like, you know, every other team's been – they started workouts, individual workouts. We're still worried about last season. Yeah. Like, sounds good, but –

you know nobody cares a week from now it'll be zero and zero yeah who if you were to put odds on it who do you think from the team is going to uh make the biggest splash at the victory parade who's going to be the one that we're going to get all the videos of and be like holy this person's having the time of their life gotta be kp right yeah yeah i was thinking cornet oh yeah luke cornet oh or or speed he's a wild card there

Okay. Hank, do you have any questions for Coach? Hank is just – He's on cloud nine. He's a winner. Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty arrogant stance right there. He's leaning back at his – Hold on. I was just taking it all in. I was taking it all in. Listen. He can't exist, Coach. Coach, the earliest Hank's ever gotten into this office was this morning just so that people would ask him about the game. He was wearing head-to-toe Celtics gear just walking around hoping people would bring it up.

Hey, how long have you been a Seas fan? I grew up in Massachusetts, so all my life specifically after 2008. I mean, people, you can't explain to people what it's like being a Celtics fan. No, I loved your quote when you were talking to the media saying, you know, when they were talking about people, you know, coming at you and the Jays and you said it's Boston, I wouldn't want it any other way. I grew up here. I know what it's like.

When you obviously wanted to be a head coach, I think your old LinkedIn page is still active. I don't know if you saw that, but it had your kind of write-up where it's like, I want to help players, personal training, and eventually be a head coach. Was your dream to be a Celtics head coach, or was that something that was unfathomable at the time? So we had a prayer board that my wife and I put up, and it was only like, it was the Celtics. It was like, be a head coach for the Celtics. We were very, very, very specific. I actually had this

vision board that a friend of mine worked on. And the three things on there were the Larry O'Brien trophy, the Celtics logo, and then a picture of Brad because I wanted to work for Brad. I wanted to work for the Celtics and I wanted to win a championship with the tutelage of Brad.

and for the Celtics. And those three things have been on there for like 10 years. What was the biggest thing that helped you break through into getting to Brad Stevens? How did you make that happen? What was the biggest part of that that led to you even getting in the door? So this is actually a funny story. We played in the same Final Four, and the point guard for Butler at the time was Ron Norad.

and he had just left the Celtics to go be an assistant at Northern Kentucky. And Northern Kentucky and like Fairmont were relatively close and they were both D2s. So we were kind of recruiting the same type of guys, even though they were getting ready to go D1. And I kind of knew of him and he had just left the Celtics to go to NKU. And I walk under the basket and I'm like, you just did the dumbest thing I've ever seen in coaching. You just left the Celtics to go to wherever it was that you were. And we kind of struck a relationship from there.

And long story short, he tried to hire me in Brooklyn when he got the G League head job. Didn't work out. And then he kind of made a call for me. And so that's kind of how I ended up in Maine was, you know, door closed in Brooklyn. He made a couple of calls to some people and then I was able to get in.

In Maine and get under the Celtics kind of, you know, franchise from there. Yeah. I mean, your story is incredible in the, in the, like they were showing it last night that you were coaching high school and then the main red claws a few years ago. Like, when do you think this will kind of set in that you are a NBA champion head coach? Like, that's just, it's awesome.

Yeah, I mean, it's funny. Like people say, enjoy it. And I don't really like that is different for different people. So I don't really know yet. I think the biggest thing is making sure you don't change. Like you don't like become too much of an asshole. Yeah. More than I already am. So you try to just stay consistent, I think is important. Yeah.

You try not to skip steps in the process. So, like, you've got to coach the same way. And I think it would be more like how you treat people. Like, I think if I'm – I really want to make sure that I just continue to try to treat people the right way and not, like – because, like, just because you win this doesn't mean you're better than other people. You know what I mean? Like, there's plenty of great people and coaches that have done great things and they haven't won. So, just because you win doesn't mean you're better. And so, I think the important thing is, like, recognizing that and kind of staying in your lane, you know? Well, it does mean that you were better this year.

For one year. Yeah, you were literally better. But I mean, over the course of like, you know, you're not better than other people. Right, right, right. But you should at least acknowledge that you were better this year. Yeah, we were. We were a better team this year. Yes, yes. You can't run from that. You can give yourself that. Hank, we were talking about the Boston media. So one of the scenes...

uh me and tatum kind of watched because we both like um the dark knight and the dark knight rises so like when we were working on like okay you know this is how we're going to handle like expectations pressure like this is what this is what we need to do so we're watching a scene where uh batman goes into the interrogation room with joker and like they're talking and batman's like why do you want to kill me and like the joker starts laughing at him he's like i don't want to kill you

He's like, I need you. He's like, you complete me. And it was like the coolest moment of like, good and evil has to coexist. Differences have to coexist in order to bring the best out of each other and the people around you. So like,

Dark Knight, great movie. Great movie. So you're watching Batman with Jason Tatum. That's interesting. Just the scene. That's one of his stories. Sort of the clip. Got it. Interesting. Between Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, who's Batman and who's the Joker? I want to be the Joker. Okay, you're the Joker. Okay. So wait, is there any other options? No, just Batman and Joker. I think they're the only two ones. We have two Batmans and I'm the Joker. Two Batmans and the Joker. So Batmans win. Easy.

If two Batmans against the Joker. I don't know. The Joker is willing to like the issue with Batman is, is like, he's not willing to do whatever it takes. Like he there's like, that's the scene where he has a chance to throw him off the cliff at the end of the second one. And he doesn't do it. He saves his life. And so like the scary thing about Batman is like, is he willing to go the extra mile to do what's necessary to,

for the greater good. Yeah, that sounds like some summer motivation for both your guys. And, like, that's the danger part of Joker is, like, he's willing to go the extra mile to get his point across, whether it's, like, healthy or not, which, you know, it's not. But, like, Batman's not willing to go the extra mile. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. You are the Joker in that relationship. Yeah. Sure. Yeah, so Jalen and Jason will listen to this and be like, wow, so we have to kill Coach. We just were told that we have to go the extra mile and kill Coach. Yeah.

You'd probably like that, you sick fuck. That's going to be your motivation heading into the next season. We've got to kill Joe to win. Derek White and his teeth. I thought it was an all-time, almost a hockey guy moment on the basketball court. The smile after the game was very funny. Did he get his teeth fixed before the parade, or is he just going to enjoy this time? Hopefully he has time. I mean, we got to Miami here, so he's not going to have time today. I mean, that's his fault. He shouldn't have gotten hurt. Yeah.

And he knows that. He knows that. Yeah, the floor is right there. It's a big floor. Watch out for it. Don't have time to get hurt in the NBA Finals. Yeah. Oh, man. So we had a couple last questions. Thank you so much for joining us. I know that you got a million things to do. I was dying to do it during the playoffs, but I'll do this.

Well, I'm done. I was going to come hang out with you guys. Yeah. Well, that was the last time we talked was right before the bulls played in their playing game. And we were making plans for you to come in and tap us out if the bulls had gotten into the playoffs. So I hope that still stands that when you're back in Chicago, you can, you can, I'll be there. Yeah. We can get the mat out. Um, Hank, we had Derek and Peyton Pritchard on, uh,

February, I believe. And Hank said that he was going to shave his head if you guys win the title. He said when they win the title. When they win the title. So how long do you think Hank has to make good on this? 24 hours. Oh! Wow, and that's from Coach Joe Mazzulla. Well, I'm not saying...

Because I want to commemorate the bet. I'm going to do it banner night. I'll be in the building. No, because then we're on the next season. Because then now people like you, Hank, will be the reason why we struggle next year. Oh, no.

And we're trying to get ready for the next season. Oh, yes. Great point, Coach. I mean, this is coming straight from Coach. He just won you a title, and you're going to go against what he wants here? People like you. 24 hours, Hank. 24 hours. What do you say to that? Come on, Hank. You can do both. Well, you know what? I think let's give him a little leeway here. Let's say until the parade is over. Okay, that's fair. All right, so you have until Friday afternoon.

Because after the parade's over. Right. We turn the page. It's next season already. Yeah. Yeah. So we don't need Hank putting out things about last year during that banner night. It's next season. You're looking back. Yeah, you're still celebrating what happened already. Summer of Hank just took a twist. Oh, he's mad. But he has to listen to his coach. You're the one guy who can tell him what to do.

Hey, Hank, whatever it takes, however long it takes. Yeah, I guess I'll be at the parade with a shaved head. Oh, Hank is so – you're so angry right now. Yeah, I'm not. Hank, it would be an honor for me to shave my head if any of my teams won a championship. Yeah. I mean, Hank, I think this is a huge –

moment for us because you're going to lead the charge on like okay we won now it's like the next we got to get ready for the next thing I think like you shaving your head is the beginning of us turning the page to get ready the longer you play that the longer we're living in the past the 24-25 Celtics season basically hangs in the balance with Hank's head yes your ability to stay present and not focus on the past all that hair that's grown out of your head Hank that's last season's hair yeah

You got to do all new hair. All right, yeah, we'll see you Friday, Coach. Can you bring one of those hoodies for me? I like those. Yeah. I'll hand deliver them. Are you going to the parade? I am now. All right, so maybe we get Hank to an after party with the shaved head. We figure that out? Go. Okay. That's a good deal, Hank. Yeah. Yeah. How bad do you want to win? Bad, bad. I'm in. I'm in. I'm ready for 19. I'm ready for 19, too.

Yes, yes. This is a great twist. I love this because he was trying to weasel his way out of it, but he can't anymore. The minute the coach said he could come on, I was like, this is the one guy that I know if he says it to Hank, Hank cannot go against it. He just put the alpha male challenge on you. Yeah. And I'm going to answer the bell. He put you in the box. That's what it's all about, Hank.

Coach, what you should do is you were talking about having to maintain the same guy that you were before you won the championship moving forward. You were talking about how nice your house is and how you were thinking maybe you had to destroy it. You got to destroy part of your house. Right now. Yeah. Go over again.

All right, so last question. This has been so much fun. Thank you so much, Coach, for joining us. It's a rowback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Rowback.com, promo code TAKE. Are you going to allow yourself to maybe buy something or go on a vacation? Like, you got to give yourself something, right? So, I mean, I'm going to take my youngest to Disney World. Okay. Yeah.

He's seven, so he's at the age where, I mean, that's going to be fun. Yep. I'm going to the Olympics to see some of our guys. Okay. And then this is our 10-year wedding anniversary, so we're going to plan a trip for my wife. I like to consider myself the more romantic type, as she laughs in the background. Yeah. Yeah. What's more romantic than a little Olympic basketball? Who are you telling? What's more romantic than being at the garden every night?

Yeah. I mean, you're going to be embarrassed. You should give her the choice. Olympic basketball or Disney World? On the way up here, I was holding the trophy and I was like, can we sleep with this one night? Yes. Can the three of us hang out? Yeah. So what is protocol with the trophy? Do you get like alone time with the trophy? Does it get passed around like the Stanley Cup? I mean, some of the guys have been hogging it a little bit, which they should be. So, I mean, I had my time. I got a couple of pictures with it. I gave it a kiss. But it just kind of passes itself around.

Yeah. I would, I would just, I would be a hog of that trophy. Yeah. Well, then the other, the other one I was supposed to, I am, I got to figure out when I'm going to go to Jerusalem. Yeah. Yeah. Um, all right. So my last, last question, uh, Al Horford, we're talking about him. Did you have any moments with, with him after we're like, you know, I mean, he's been in the league forever and this is just an unbelievable moment for him. There's not a guy, I don't think there's a better guy in the league. Uh,

He's awesome. So the moment I got to be on stage was me and my son, him and his son and his wife and just all the work. You could just see like he's more of a guy where he doesn't say as much. You could just see it on his body, see on his face. You could see it by his energy. It was just a really cool moment for him to sacrifice everything that he has.

to be on stage there and get that. That was awesome. Yeah. I'm forever grateful for him. Yeah, you guys were a very easy team to root for. I do think that there was a part of you deep down inside that was like, one more loss would have been nice. Just if you give us two games to overcome adversity.

Just two. Why not? Yeah, four to two. That's all you need. Well, congratulations, Coach. Yes. Congratulations. Thank you. You made a lot of people very happy, and we're very happy for you. And you made us very happy for making Hank shave his head. Yep. Oh, good, yeah. And, Hank, thank you for setting the example for what it means to be all in on winning and staying process-oriented and not focused on the past but just kind of worrying about –

you know, what's next. So I really appreciate you doing that for us. Thank you, coach. I die for you. I'll see you Friday. I'll bring some gear for you. I can't wait, man. All right. Thanks so much, coach. Thanks. Have fun. Coach Missoula is brought to you by Facebook. Everyone should explore their interests. If you do it on Facebook, there's a world of possibilities that open up to you when you tap into the people and the products on the platform.

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Jake, you're sitting on the couch. I am. Welcome back to the couch. Thank you. It's not green. I don't have a fellow Billy football by my side. Or a snuggling partner. Or a professional cuddler. Yeah, the cuddler was great. That was a great moment. Yeah. But yes, you're here. I'm here to make an announcement. It's an announcement that is, I think what we all would have agreed was inevitable at some point.

Um, and I think after talking with you guys now makes the most sense. And the fact of the matter is this is going to be my last episode. I'm part of my take. What? Why didn't you tell us? So right now we've, we've actually been talking about this for like four or five months. Yeah. So it's, it's been an ongoing discussion. Uh,

We loved having you on the show, Jake. You're a big part of the part of my take story. It does not feel like... How many years has it been? Five years. It doesn't feel like it's been five years. Which is what I would call wild. It is wild. It's more than half the show, which is crazy to think about. And we're very glad that you're a part of the story, and you're going to continue to be. And me and Big Cat have always said, like, one day you're going to...

Go try to do live broadcasts, and we're going to wish you the best, and we're going to be firmly in your corner. And that's very, very true to this day. I wish you the best career possible. I hope one day you're calling a Super Bowl that we're watching and losing bets on. Yeah, that would be the best-case scenario, but you guys are winning.

And then blaming you for losing her bet. Yeah, so we can get into the details so there's no speculation. I know a lot of people might be surprised. A lot of people might not be just based on how closely they follow me, my career, and the show. But basically one of the biggest dominoes for this happening right now is that the direction that Barstool is going in

live broadcasting rights are no longer a priority for this company. And that's not a secret. You've talked about it. Dave talked about it. And obviously that was my bread and butter here. That's where I thrive the most. I mean, I'm so fortunate that I got the chance to call multiple bowl games on national television, college basketball, hockey, professional golf that led to those PGA tour events from the connections I made there. When you guys hired me as an intern five years ago,

to mock Darren Revell. I never thought any of that was remotely possible. I was just here to say yes to whatever you guys wanted to prove that I was a hard worker and had this great opportunity on this massive platform. But, might get emotional. It's okay. Yeah.

Here, I'll help lighten the mood. Remember how bad your handshake was? Yeah, clammy hands. I watched it back the other day, and something that stuck out is one of you guys asked me, where do I see myself in five to ten years? And without hesitation, I said...

I want to be a national network play by play broadcaster. And that brings us to now. And that is where I'm going all in on. I've been on all in on it for a while. There's a reason why I don't curse on the air. There's a reason why Ray Allen tweet. I'm not going to do the right Allen tweets because when I was making this inevitable jump,

It's so that I have no regrets. I have nothing to hide. And I am so proud of what I've done here in the five years. I've accomplished a lot thanks to you guys. And it has been an incredible ride. But doing it right now, making this jump, we all agree. It makes the most sense because it's the beginning of the summer. It's kind of like the off-season in sports and broadcasting, right? So if I make myself publicly fully available right now,

Best case scenario, I'm in the booth calling college football this fall. Is that going to happen? Is that reality? I don't know.

But the odds are going to increase by making this jump right now. Right. And we did start having these conversations back in February and March. So it's not a sudden thing. I was joking when I said, wait, what? What did you tell us right now? And we, back in February and March, we basically were like, what is the best way for you to make this jump? And this was always, hey, the NBA Finals is a good spot where you can have the summer and you can try to hopefully...

get something in broadcasting. And I, you know, I'll say this right now. Anyone who wants to hire Jake, you're going to hire someone who works his absolute ass off. Sorry for swearing. It's okay. Who's committed and he does everything the right way. And I, you know, you will always, if anyone hires Jake, they like, you will have our support, Jake, you will have the AWL support and,

We want to see you have all the success in the world. And it's one of those bittersweet moments where it's like,

having you on the show for five years, which is more than half of the history of this show has been awesome. I watching you grow into, uh, what you are and like, you know, adapt and, and have to go with the flow more has been very funny and enjoyable. And I know you've grown as a person and I do think that you will be a better broadcaster for everything you did here. I also think that you added a lot to everything we've done in the last five years. And, uh,

I'm excited for you because I do think that, you know, it's scary. It's very scary. It's scary. I'm not going to lie. I'm scared. There is no clear cut plan for what's next. Right. But we've been talking. You guys have been amazing with your help in trying to make that a reality. So the plan is I'm going to leave Chicago. I'm going to go back home to South Florida as I try to figure out the next step. I think we all agreed that

I don't regret. I'm so happy I gave Chicago a shot, but I moved here mostly because I wanted to be part of the team, part of you guys. So I feel like still being in the mix here, it might just get a little weird. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really do. I think it's the right time in your life, in the move. It's just like, I want to see you fulfill your dreams. And we had this conversation that it's like, as much as we love having you on the show, there's...

always going to be a foot in foot out that makes it difficult for you to go all the way in and be available all the time where someone can be like, Oh, we want to hire Jake to do this.

You always were testament to you. You're always thinking the show first. Now you should be a little more selfish and think Jake first. And I, I'm, I'm excited and I, I truly love you. And I, you're always have a home here and you always have our backing. 100%. Whenever you're on TV, whatever events you're doing, I know you're, you're doing some PLL stuff. Yeah. I have a few PLL assignments this summer. Hopefully there's some more PGA on the table as well. And like I said, perfect world.

The fall comes around. There's a million college football teams and games out there and networks. Hopefully, you know, you guys gave me the shot of a lifetime. No pun intended. Five years ago. You really did. This is such an impossible business. It is so hard and so competitive.

And you have to think of ways to get really creative to stand out. And you guys gave me that opportunity. And like I said, I'm proud of what I did with this opportunity. I have zero regrets. And now I'm just looking for someone else to give me my next shot in the booth, the same way you guys. And you'll get one, you'll get one. And, uh,

You're very good at what you do, and you put a lot of work into it. And like Big Cat said, whoever is out there, if you're listening to this show and you're thinking, well, I've got this one open spot for a game. We don't have anybody lined up just yet. Or if there's a bigger – whatever the case may be, if you're listening to this, Jake Marsh will be the best worker that you'll ever hire. He won't do the Ray Allen tweet. I won't do the Ray Allen tweet. Which is bullshit, but that's fine. I could have caved just to make you guys happy.

but now there is nothing I regret. Did not do Ray Allen. Maybe during the day. Okay. What if, hold on, hold on. What if, what if CBS calls you and is like, Hey, we want you to be part of a college football this fall. Okay. But we need you to do the Ray Allen tweet. But I have the job. Yeah. And I like that's for life. Well, not for life.

I mean, as long as it wouldn't. You got to be ready for this, Jake. They might throw this out at you. Then I'll do it. That's the reason I'm not doing it. It's not because, like, I'm against what it says. Oh, you like what it says. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Let's go. Freaky. That's the only reason I'm not doing it. That is multiple positions. You're also getting a guy that can lay the pipe. No, but in all seriousness, like.

I know my role on this show. I know I'm a very small part of it, but it's been a major part of my life. And I owe you guys...

forever and this is not behind the bridge no i i i really mean that like no but you gave us stuff too so it's not it's a we all won with our relationship and our relationship isn't over like i said you're yeah you're always a friend of the show and always have a home here and we'll always be rooting for you so and and spotlighting whatever you're doing next so that's that's never gonna change yeah and it is worth mentioning um

for the next few months, you two, Dave, Hank, we've come to the agreement that I'm still going to be employed by the company. And I'm really fortunate for that opportunity. I'm still going to be active on social media, writing blogs for the website, still making golf videos.

hopefully hit another hole in one on camera. First one, second one. Um, so I'll still be around the next few months, but it's all systems go. I'm looking for a full-time broadcasting job and hopefully it happens sooner rather than later. I love it. I think you'll get there. Yeah. And, and when you're on TV, we will, we will make sure to let people know so that they can follow you or also just follow Jake on social media. Yeah. You guys are letting me keep that Twitter account too, which is huge because if you do the reality,

No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They'll know where you're at. Yeah. But we will also remind people once you're on TV, because you will be on TV. Yeah. You can go on a game and we'll say with great pride, there's Jake Marsh. And I'm going to root so hard for a score, Gami. Yeah. Yeah. It's all right. I'll root for the first score. Only when Jake's on the court. For the first score, Gami, I'll FaceTime you this year. That would be cool. Yes. I'm calling NFL game in 20 years. Yeah. Yeah.

I will be mad at you if you do a call on a game that I'm gambling. You'll hear from me. Oh, no, you'll hear from me. I know it's over. That's your system. What? Oh, if I'm watching. Yeah, yeah. No matter what. That is true. One of my systems. What were you going to say, Hank? Have you given any thought to the at name change? So PFTN, I talked about this beforehand. I'm down to keep it.

Indefinitely. There's probably a time where it will be appropriate to change it. I think at some point you should change it. You don't need to change it just yet, but at some point you should. But I think that would be a cool little thing for the AWLs. You might want to change it for yourself, but you can also just put that you were the PMT sportsman. I mean, that's up to you. I might put in my alum, like, my bio, part of my take alum. Right, right, exactly. Because you might want to be like, hey, I would like my game to be there. That's what we talked about, too, is...

I'm not technically, I am technically leaving the show, but I'm kind of graduating from it. And I still have the ties permanently to part of my take, which I'm so proud of. And you're like the safest bet that you won't do anything bad that will make us be like, wait, we're not associated with it. I don't think we would give that to anyone else.

Yeah, I would keep the handle for now if you want. But then, yeah, change it because you got to go out there on your own and this is something that you're doing and it's going to be Jake Marsh on TV. It's not going to be part of my take on TV because on the other end of it, there are certain networks that might not want part of my take.

That's right. As the host of whatever show it is. Yeah. But yeah, you gotta, yeah. Spread your wings at some point, but there's no, like no rush on that. What are you last thing? Who's going to do some of the tasks you did? Should we, should we give it like, who's going to do nerd nugget? Oh my God. Well, I think you can take nerd nugget. No. Uh,

Um, yeah, you could take it with you, but like reminders, I still have plenty of reminders. I can still tweet you guys when they pop up. Yeah. Or you could, I would like to see someone fail at this. Uh, maybe pug, maybe pug has to do the reminders. Cause he, he'll just be like, I'm such a bitch. I was supposed to remind you this a month ago and I forgot whatever. I have a few, I think. Can you, can you just tell pug right now?

Give us two that you got off the top. Yeah, I'm looking. Quick reminders. This is – what were you going to say? Max, do you have anything to say? Yeah, no. It's a sad day. I know I was only joined with you in this booth for a couple months, but it always hurts to lose a member of the team, and we're going to miss you back here. This is a good one. Yeah, and again, I thanked you guys, but the two of you and Hank –

You gave me a break that I never saw coming. I never saw my career going in this direction, but I'm so happy and glad it did. And I learned so much about myself in this building. The first day you guys told me,

You have to grow thick skin. It's the only way to survive here because of the massive platform. And I can say I've certainly done that. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. I think you've gotten... It's crazy to think about the changes. And they're all been great. Yeah. So thank you guys. The four guys behind the glass are...

With no doubt the hardest working crew in sports media. Hank is behind the glass right now. I forget Hank was there. Hold on. You didn't mean Hank. Jake, if you were in Hank's team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You meant Shane Pug, Max, and Memes. Hank is sitting right there.

What I was going to say is be careful. He's got golf coming up. Not a lot of people know this. These guys are pulling nearly all nighters three nights a week. Yeah, that's insane. We finished recording at two or 3 a.m. And we wake up. We go home at midnight. They're here till four in the morning. We wake up three hours after they go to sleep and all the clips are done. The YouTube is up. It's just you actually should. You need to text us in the fall and tell us what it's like getting your Sundays back.

Oh my God. That is going to be interesting. That's the one thing where I'm like, oh my God. It'd be like every weekend feels like a holiday. Yeah. I don't, I actually think about that like the day that I retire where it's like, oh wait, I can watch football on my couch and then go to sleep after Sunday night football. That's crazy. Yeah. But yeah, thank you to you guys. Thank you to the producers and thank you to the AWLs. You guys, every single in-person interaction I've had with you guys has been remarkable. You're the most loyal, passionate fan base ever.

in the world, really, more than any other sports team, I think, because these guys live and die by everything we say. They know every little detail about us, what we talk about on the show, and it's just so cool. I think Olyler's fan base is pretty good, too, though. I have a limited amount of interaction, but from what I remember, they're pretty strong. Yeah, but I... A lot of heart. A lot of heart. Big, big hearts. Yeah. The same way my relationship with you guys in this room is not going to change, I hope to continue...

making relationships with AWLs around town and seeing all of them and talking about PMT and talking about sports. I just think it's such a cool dynamic and connection that you really can't find anywhere else. You know, if you have very funny twist, uh, if Jake wrote a tell all book about PMT afterwards, there's really nothing. Yeah. That would be like order for dinner on Sunday. Yeah. Surprising. But Jake, we, we love you and best of luck. And, uh, I,

I look forward to seeing you do great things. Yes. Thank you guys. Yeah. Flourishing. It's a scary time, but it's an exciting time. I told you from day one, it's, it's, it's the goodwill hunting that one day I hope you're just like, Hey, I got it. I'm, I'm going out and I'd be like, that's great. Leave us fucking idiots to hear. You guys are not idiots. You're sitting here being idiots and losing our money. Geniuses. When it comes to sports media, success, the G word is not correct. Yeah. But do you want to take back the Hank hardworking?

hank's hard working for my first three years he was pulling all-nighters i'd walk in on monday morning he's sleeping on the green couch that's just because he was tired yeah from staying up all night editing the podcast yeah but then he was he was very cool he was the first of our group to retire he's in retirement basically but i'm proud of myself for not crying because i yeah no that was big i was gonna cry that was huge you didn't i didn't you want to

no okay it'll be time to cry later yeah i think i'm like sunday night's gonna be weird yeah but i feel like you might you might be like this is kind of going for brunch yeah yeah because it was college and then i had one year in between and then yeah so like my post-grad life all but one year has been here yeah sundays sundays are a big part of that but i wouldn't change a thing and

It's awesome. Yeah. Well, we love you, Jake. We always will love you. Thank you. Best in the office. Yeah. Best one here. Yeah. That was a great handshake. That was a great memory. That was a great handshake. Yeah. You're the best. And yeah, we'll always be team Jake. And like I said, you'll always be a part of this. And whenever you're back in town, you come by and say hello. And I guess we got to do numbers, huh? Are you going to get this? This would be an all-time walk-off. Yeah. An all-time walk-off. What?

I feel weird. Like, what if someone else wins? It feels weird. This would be awesome if Max won this one. No, I don't want to win this. I want to give Jake my number. Yeah, I want to give Jake my number. Should we all give Jake our number? Wait, why? I already have a win. Because this would feel so weird if I won right now. Max, you just said you'd give Jake your number like your number's going to win? That's true. Like, come on. No, we got to be men about it. And if anyone steals Jake moment, be.

Be a man about it. Okay? I think we should retire number 18. No. No, he's trying to... Better chances. How about this? You retire 18 but throw in a 101. Oh. So it's still 119. 18 could just be 101. When 18 hits, it's 101. We'll put 18 up in the rafters. That's Jake. When 18 hits, it's 101. Great. Yeah. All right. Numbers. 8, 20, 3...

56. I should have said 80. 81. You already said 56. Whatever. 96. All right, I'll say 56. What was your pick, A? 99 put. 96. Shane, what was it? 21. Shane tried to give me a bacon-wrapped plantain off his fucking gross-ass plate.

And was so confused why no one was eating it Weirdo Shane See this is what you're leaving us with Jake You're leaving us with weirdos like Shane Now we get more Shane Shane's never eaten a banana until today He actually told me the other day That the first grape that he had Was last month That's wild One single grape he ate That's crazy

99 Pug! Oh my god! You motherfucker Pug! You stole his moment Pug! God damn it Pug. How could you?

Now I'm definitely not sharing those reminders. Oh, what a fucking moment. Pug. This is for Jake, too. This is for all of us. You son of a bitch. For the whole squad. That number's on fire. On fire. No sense of the moment, Pug. Yeah. Goddamn, Pug. This is Jake's 99, too. It's all of our 99. No, no. It's your 99, Pug. It's mine, but. Pug.

How many is that? That's like four. Is that four? That's four. Goddamn, Pug. I think we should let Jake say it. No, this is PFT. No, no, no. I don't want it. I don't want it. Jake, I'm passing the rock to you. Come on, Jake. Love you, Jake. Love you, too. Love you, guys. I'm getting there when you must think about my tongue. Pouring your clit in, switching back and forth. Switching back and forth from my dick.

Switching back and forth from my tongue. Switching

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