Derek Carr, Open Championship W/ Shane Bacon + Mt Rushmore Of TV Shows/Movies We’ve Never Seen
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Yeah. He's a great guy. Yeah.

Great interview with him. Got some awesome stories. Talked about his career. We also have our good friend Shane Bacon on to preview the Open Championship. You thought this was going to be the worst week in sports, but we have the Open Championship. We get to wake up at, I think, 4.09 on Thursday to watch Max Homa play. We're going to do a choose-your-own-adventure of the All-Star game. We have the Mount Rushmore that will probably piss the most people off because we're going to do the Mount Rushmore match.

of movies or shows that we have not seen this is going to make people very very angry i don't know how they're going to react in the voting process if they're going to see uh like really all-time classics that we pick and get mad at us yeah and then vote against us yeah for us yeah but it's going to be great and then we're going to do hot sea cool throne we have guys on chicks packed show for you on wednesday the mma event of the year battle of the giants is coming up fast

Lineal heavyweight world champion Francis Ngannou makes his return to the cage versus Hanan Ferreira. Women's MMA GOAT Chris Cyborg takes on 2023 PFL champ Larissa Pacheco.

Johnny Ebelin goes toe-to-toe with Fabian Edwards with the Bellator middleweight title on the line. Battle of the Giants and Ganu vs. Fajera goes down Saturday, October 19th at 4 p.m. Eastern Time on ESPN Plus Pay-Per-View. Okay, let's go.

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We've talked about it in the past. The Home Run Derby has lost its luster. The Juice Ball Home Run Derby, the way the format was set. The Home Run Derby is dead because all it took was one horrific national anthem to steal the night.

Yeah, that was a tough way to get it started. Very tough way. And that's the story, though, of the Home Run Derby. The story was how bad, I mean, Donald Trump getting his ear shot off, maybe he had the right idea. Didn't have to listen to that. Oh, man. That was bad. I didn't tweet that out last night. Oh, good. I didn't. I thought about it. And then I saw the memes happen and I was like, okay, now it's a safe space to do it. Yeah, it's the Klay Thompson ear bleeding. It's the ear bleeding. It was horrific. Who was it? It was awful.

I don't know, but apparently she's been nominated for several Grammy Awards. What? Yeah. It seemed like a prank in real time. It really did. And it also, it was so bad, it was one of those videos that if you pulled it up on your phone and started playing it, people would look and be like, are you watching porn? Yeah. Because there was like some shrieks in there. Ingrid Andress. Oh, Ingrid, that's tough. Yeah.

Yeah, and then the end when she tried to really do something at the end with the scoops. It was awful. The home run derby itself stunk too. It was bad. I mean, there's countless ways that you can improve the home run derby. We just want to see all the dingers. Yeah. We want to see the ball hit the bat. We want to see the ball sail. We want to see it land. And then we want to wait for the next pitch. Yes. Is that so hard to do? It shouldn't be that hard to fix this. No.

Shout out the Oscar Hernandez. Yeah, the Oscar Hernandez. El Oscar. Yeah. Had a great night. Yeah, winning the Home Run Derby. Pete Alonso, bad night. And that's all he cares about. Yep. But yeah, it was, I don't know. I wish, Home Run Derby used to mean something, man. We sound like old men, but I feel like it's the truth. It is the truth. I think our idea that we had last year was one of the best, which is if you test positive for steroids, you can get out of your suspension by winning the Home Run Derby. By winning the Home Run Derby, yeah.

Breaking Moose. Give us a cow, Max.

Is that woo? Woo. So we already taped earlier today, but the national anthem, Ingrid Andrus, released a statement saying, I'm not going to bullshit y'all. I was drunk last night. I'm checking myself into a facility today to get the help I need. That was not me last night. I apologize, Sam. I'll be all the fans in this country I love so much for that rendition. I'll let you all know how rehab is. I hear it's super fun. Hopefully she gets better.

Also, incredible move because now this goes down. Like, if she gets better, it goes down as, like, the funniest, coolest national anthem ever. This is how I knew to turn my life around. Yeah. Because I made America weep. Yeah. So, yeah. I hope she's good. She says, see you in rehab. Here, it's fun. Oh. So, I don't know if that's accurate or not. I don't know who she should talk to about rehab. Yeah. Yeah.

If I screwed up the national anthem, this would be a good PR 101 move, though. It's always a great move just whenever you screw anything up to say, I'm seeking treatment. Right. I need to work on myself. I'm seeking treatment. But yeah, that was, I mean, at least now we have an explanation for it because that would have been bad for her singing career if that was actually her. Yeah. And also in the actual home run derby, Max, was there controversy in your Phillies guy losing the semifinals? Yeah.

Yeah, are you talking about the foul ball? Well, I'm talking about that and also the format. I don't know. I heard a rumor that they did a different format than they were supposed to do. I don't know if that's true or not. Oh, I didn't know that. I did not know that. Yeah. And the foul ball didn't really seem that controversial, but I didn't hear that, so I just kind of guessed. Oh. Well, he hit a home run.

His last swing of like the regular round was close to being a home run, but it was pretty clearly foul. I think some, some Philly people thought that it was supposed to be a 60 second swing off in the semifinals, but MLB changed it to just what three screwed Schwarber the other year they did. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, they got it out for Philly. Uh, okay. That was breaking moves back to what we were talking about. Um, and then we have the all-star game, which we'll choose your own adventure. Cause we're going to hit some dingers tonight. Uh,

Paul Skeens was electric. He was. Shout out MLB, by the way, for actually doing the right thing and having Paul Skeens start this game. Well, Rob Manfred said that if they didn't make the right decision, they would have stepped in. So apparently the manager made the call. That's Rob Manfred trying to get credit for something that he... That's bullshit. I would have done it too, is what Rob Manfred said. They screwed it on the AL side because the future AL Cy Young, Tariq Scooble...

is not starting, and he is going to be the AL Cy Young as that guy sent me the envelope. What are you laughing about? I said per you in Detroit. Yeah, well, not per me. Per the guy who gave me the envelope that said bet him right now. He is the odds on favor right now. Nice. Yeah, so he's having a great year. Did the NL win? How many years in a row is it? The NL, 9-1 AL, I think. In the last 10? Yeah. The NL did not win, sadly, tonight. Damn it. It's hard to win on the road.

It's hard to win on the road. Hostile crowd. All right, so that's another loss for the NL. Brutal. You know what? I'm going to say the NL won. That way we can cover both our bases. You think they broke the streak this year? Yeah, I don't know what the streak is at right now. What is it at? It's just been dominance. NL All-Star losing streak. I do think they won one. Oh, no, they won last year, right? I think the streak was over last year. It was nine years in a row. The Midsummer Classic. Who could forget?

Yeah, they slapped it. Yeah, how could we forget? Last year, the NL won. So, AL's going to win. Yeah, the AL's going to win. The AL's going to win. Max is looking it up right now. By the way, we have our intern starting on Wednesday, correct? Mm-hmm. Tomorrow? Mm-hmm. Today? Today. Today. Very excited to introduce him to you. He's going to have to... Because we...

We obviously, you know, Jake left. We need someone who's on their computers who can just be like... And this guy, by the way, he's not going to be able to do that, but he's going to at least give us moments where we're like, okay. Based on his past, I don't think we should allow him near a computer. Yes, that's correct. We'll have him tell the story when he gets debuted on Friday. We'll introduce him to the audience.

And he had one story that basically hooked us for life based on content. But, yeah, so the NL won last year. Who could forget? We obviously knew that. But the AL had won nine in a row before that. So the streak is over. AL's back on top. AL's back on top. And a new streak begins right now. Oh, maybe a new streak starts with the NL.

I'm back on the NL. You think the NL, it's flipped? This has been some really interesting talk. Bigger bases? PFT, before we get to our Mount Rushmore and our Hotsy Cool Throne, I was cruising around the internet trying to find some sports stuff going on. This is the deadest week in the sports calendar by far. And that means that ESPN will do something that, remember when they ranked states, I believe? Was it states? Did they do states? Because I've got a...

I've ranked states before. I can't remember. They did... SVP did something back in the day where it was either states or... License plates? Whatever. Who's now? Who's now was one of them. They're doing the top 100 athletes. That was what I was going to bring up. So top 100 professional athletes since 2000, and they released numbers 51 through 60 today. American Pharoah? Alex Ovechkin, 54. Okay. How do we feel about that? Also... Just don't respect hockey. That one's...

Derek, this is a great hat tip to ESPN, an incredible engagement troll move. They ranked Derek Jeter 53.

And that would get people very upset. But then you remember he won the majority of his championships in the 90s. In the 90s, yeah. So that was a savvy, savvy move by them. Takes out the meat of his career. Yeah, they should have done like MJ 100. That's bullshit. That's bullshit that Ovi is so far down. Like Hank said, it's disrespectful to hockey. It's disrespectful to the entire country of Russia. The man is about to surpass Wayne Gretzky.

For the top goal scorer of all time in the NHL. What hockey players would be above him? I don't know, but they also ranked... He was above two soccer players. Why do we have soccer in this? Luka Modric and Alexia Petelis.

Okay. Yeah. Garbage. Why would JJ Watt 58? That's got to make you feel a little better. Yeah. JJ Watt. He should be higher, though. I know. That's what I'm saying. It should make you feel better about Ovechkin because JJ Watt is very, very good. These lists are designed to make you mad. Yeah. That's what they exist for. It's like, oh, they have track and field. When Apple did their top 10 albums of all time, I think they had Frank Ocean ahead of Stevie Wonder. Yeah. This is a crazy list.

They've gone every sport. There's more soccer and track and field. Sean White's on there. Mookie Betts, Hank, 73. Great player. I don't think there's going to be a single. Bryce Harper is 79. Yeah, these are Chris Paul, 83. Yeah, these are just made to make you mad. We should do ours. Oh, we should do ours. I have a prediction. We should do our top 100. I have a prediction. Yeah. I think ESPN is going to put Serena number one. Oh. Just to make people mad.

Tiger's got to be very high. Tiger's going to be up there. But Tiger also started in the 90s. That's true, but his... The Masters win. Yeah. The dominant Masters win, but the Tiger Slam was in the 2000s. Rory was 93. Yeah, I think you're right. I think they'll do Serena. They're going to go like Serena won, and then the rest of the top 10 is just going to be the U.S. women's national team. Yeah. American Pharoah should be top 10. Flight line. Yeah, flight line. Flight line should be number one. You can forget. Connor McDavid's 98.

and Ed Reed, Charles Woodson, 100. Okay, so yeah, this is going to make us mad. Yeah, that's fine. They have now hooked me. They've hooked me into it. I got to see. Do you think they'll do Serena over like Tom Brady? Because Tom Brady also has the perfect...

His career was literally the last 20 years. Yeah, it started 2001. Right. Yeah, it should be Tom Brady, Serena duking it out for number one overall. And LeBron as well. LeBron also was... So it should be Brady, LeBron, Serena, but it will be Serena, LeBron, Brady. Maybe Sachin Tendulkar, the cricket player? Yeah, that could throw him in there. This will be spicy. Spicy.

How high does Mahomes go? I mean, shout out to ESPN for figuring out a way to fill up July. Yeah. Adrian Beltran was 52. This right now, today, this is when we should be talking about the NBA-NFL debate. Yep. This exact day, right now...

Austin Rivers should have gone on McAfee's show and dropped that bomb on us. Yep. Got us through two weeks. This is a hot dog. It's a sandwich. We wasted two weeks during the NBA playoffs and NHL playoffs when we could just make a meal out of that. We said it in real time, too. Yeah. This is not when we're supposed to do this. We're supposed to wait. But yeah, I'm hooked now. Now, the real question is going to be who is going to be the best male tennis player on the list. Is it Federer? It should be Djokovic. Djokovic.

I think we can agree Nadal last. Yeah, Nadal for sure last. It'll be Federer. Yeah, which is bullshit because Djokovic worked him multiple times and has more. Can it be Alcatraz?

He's 16 years older. I know this is just going to happen to me like everyone. Federer and Djokovic are a lot closer in age, though. Are they going to have any drivers on there? Are they going to have any F1 guys on the list? Yeah, Verstappen. Lewis Hamilton. Hamilton, yeah. Yeah, Lewis Hamilton. Sir Lewis Hamilton. Sir Lewis Hamilton. Hank, quick check-in. Are you okay with Jalen Brown and Derek White? Yeah. Yeah. Why? Why?

Because they're NBA champions? There was a little jab going back and forth because Derek White got on the team. Jalen Brown was like, I'm not on the team. And he basically was like, this is bullshit. But they're also teammates. Yeah. Not afraid of you or your resources. Jalen Brown said the first thing he did was call Derek White and tell him he loves him. Love that. That's the first thing that he did? When he woke up that day? When he saw the news. Didn't take a piss? When he saw the news. Also...

Derek White is the perfect fit, and we like Derek White. He's the perfect fit on this team that he's going to go and just be a really good teammate, and you're the 12th guy now. Not that he won't play, but you want that, right? Right. Bench experience. If you added Kyrie or Jalen Brown, it might be a little bit different. Correct. It might not want to be the 12th guy. It'll be interesting to see in the top 10 how many of those are Nike athletes on the ESPN list. Very interesting. And start connecting those dots there.

That's very interesting. And it can't just be because Nike has the best athletes on the roster. It's got to be because Nike's making the call. Yeah, yeah. Okay, should we do hot seat, cool throne, and then get to our Mount Rushmore? Yeah. Again, the worst day in sports calendar. I'd agree with that. And the All-Star Game, it is sad because I feel like when we were kids, maybe kids liked the All-Star Game. Maybe it's just old people never liked the All-Star Game. Yeah, yeah.

Although, no. So I think the All-Star game got eroded. The All-Star game still... The MLB All-Star game still is the best All-Star game by far. Because you can't half-ass throwing 99 miles an hour. So it's still the best. I did... I noticed it was the dumbest rule in sports. I did like when it decided home field advantage. And the All-Star game lost a little bit of its luster when interleague play happened. Yeah. And...

And you, because that was like the cool part of the All-Star game. It was like, you'll never get to see Paul Skeens versus Aaron Judge. Yeah. They probably are going to play next week. I think the All-Star game fell off for me when Bud Selig ruled it a tie. That too. That one year when he just stood up in the stands and he waved his arms and said, no, we're done playing right now. That was a bad one. And growing up, George W. Bush, our former president, his dream job when he was a kid and even as an adult was to be commissioner of Major League Baseball. Mm-hmm.

If George W. Bush had become commissioner of Major League Baseball, the world would be so much better. Baseball would be so much better. Say what you want about the man. The fucking All-Star game is not ending in a tie with George W. Bush. What if that meant Bud Selig was president, though? Okay, it could have been worse. It could have been way worse. Way worse. No one gets a bigger pass than Bud Selig. Bud Selig's terrible. I know, and you feel like he just...

Everyone just kind of forgets Bud Selig sucked. He's also... The name Bud does a lot of favors for you. Oh, yeah. If your name's Bud, people like you in general. Yeah. He was the... It's right there in the name. He was the least Bud of all time. Yeah. If you look at Bud Selig, that's not his name. He's enemy. Yeah. He's like a...

He's like an Ernie Selig. Yeah, Ernie would have been a good name for Bud. Yeah, Ernie Selig would have worked. And then I remember he released something. They were doing like a profile on Bud Selig. And he was like, yeah, I get my haircut once a week, every Thursday at the same time. Nice try, Bud. That was not your hair, buddy. No, no. You couldn't pull fast one on that.

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out there, the coldest beer out there. It's a chill summer. It's Coors Light. Hank. My hot seat's Jalen Brown. Oh, why? Oh, that's why you didn't want to skirt it. I thought that's what you were bringing up, but I don't know why he's on the hot seat. He's really just spitting facts, but, you know. Yeah. It's headlines that he probably doesn't want to be involved in. He was at the Celtics Summer League game last night. It was Celtics-Lakers, so they were playing Brawny Jr. But Brawny Jr. is in the Lakers, too.

Well, yeah, I guess people call it Bron Bronny.

No. Bronny is his son's name. It's a given name. It's in the box score. That'd be wild if Bronny had a kid who was also one of his. Is that true? We talked about that a couple weeks ago, how it pisses me off that in the box score you can look it up and it says B. James. It's like his name is LeBron James. All right, so Bronny Sr. He was watching Bronny Sr. And they showed him on the sidelines talking to his girlfriend. And you could read his lips. And he said...

I don't think Bronny's a pro. Yeah. And then his girlfriend said, yeah, he'll play on the G League, though. And he said, I don't think so. Because of his name, he's going to be playing for the Lakers. This is all lips being read. Yeah. The G League, you could definitely say he says, I don't think Bronny's a pro. And then the girlfriend definitely says, like, you can see her say G League.

I couldn't really tell what he said after that. But I think the way that he said, I don't think Bronny's a pro isn't that bad for him. No. It's also not wrong. Yeah, it's not wrong. No. And also, it's not like he was clowning him. He was like, I don't think this guy's a pro. Yeah. He's not a pro. Which is probably inaccurate, unless we're talking about Call of Duty.

In which case, shout out to Bronny. He won the Call of Duty tournament. That was my cool throne. Yeah, $10,000 cash. Yeah, he won the Call of Duty Summer League tournament, which that wasn't the craziest part. I mean, one, if you're Bronny, you can't win that. You're just going to get made fun of, the fact that you're very good at video games and you're not good at basketball. Two, Grant Williams is still playing in the Summer League? No. He beat out Bronny.

For the Summer League title in Call of Duty. He's probably just there, though. You think so? He's not playing Summer League. Only two years. That's what I thought, too. But I saw his name. And I was like, why is Grant Williams there? There's got to be a different Grant Williams. There's a lot of Williamses. I've learned. I'm almost positive it's Grant Williams. That's true. We have learned there's a lot of Williams. That would be crazy if he played. It's impossible.

All right, I don't see him on the roster. So maybe he's just there? Yeah. He's just hanging out? That's what he does. Okay, yeah, I guess he's just hanging out. Jalen Brown tweeted out, it's a flex to have your son alongside you in the NBA. It reflects greatness and longevity. Bronny has all the tools around him to be successful. I look forward to watching his growth. So he's kind of walking it back a little bit there. Okay, so that's what his statement is right now. But his statement is it's a flex. He's basically just being like, yeah, LeBron. Yeah, that's... But he's not a pro.

It's all LeBron's ego. That's what this whole thing is. I don't want to get into the... You know what? It's non-sports week.

But some people could argue that LeBron, when he realized that he wasn't going to win six titles and match MJ, he's like, what else can I try to get that they'll say in my GOAT conversation? And having Bronny, playing with Bronny will be there, even though it means nothing. MJ's son never played in the league, right? That's facts. It means nothing, but that's exactly what's going on. What was Angel Reese's reaction? Because she was sitting next to Jalen Brown's girlfriend. Her mouth is kind of blocked, but she kind of says, like, he's not.

And like, you can see, play the clip. You can see her say something like kind of, you know, be like, yeah, no, he's not. I don't think probably he's a pro. Yeah. See, she shakes her head. Yeah. Ain't an attractive lady. Angel Reese is deep in her phone. She's a big phone girl. So you have to go back to this for a second, but Grant Williams is playing Call of Duty Summer League.

What is going on? They probably asked Grant Williams, hey, we need another player in this tournament. Can you come out and do it in conjunction with the Summer League? I guess. Well, he's on, like we said, he's the VP of the Players Association. It's very, it's just very confusing. Jalen Brown's the VP. It's very confusing that he was in this tournament, but okay.

And Bronny did earn $10,000 for winning the tourney. Yeah. So does that count against the cap? I don't know. I don't know either. So the Call of Duty thing, that was only for Summer League players, right? It's not like Bronny is a world-class Call of Duty player. Apparently not because Grant Williams is right there. He's not playing in Summer League. Yeah. You can't win this. You cannot win this if you're Bronny. Why? He's cracked. He's young. Dude. But.

He's in phase, dude. The jokes aren't... He's been so bad. Now, Hank, did he get into phase on his own merits, or did he get in because his dad's LeBron James? No, he's like a sniper trick shotter. So his godfather's Nick Merckx. Yeah, so he's really good. He got drafted.

Yeah, and by the way, I did double check. If you go on ESPN, it is B.James, and he was 1 for 5, 0 for 3 from three-pointer. B. Hamas. B. Hamas, yes. B. Hamas. Okay, so Jalen Brown, I have no problem with Jalen Brown saying this. This is why I ultimately, with this whole entire thing, I feel awful for Bronny. I really do. Because he knows guys are saying this.

And he knows that this is going to be said in the locker room, and it's going to be said when he's going up against another team. Everyone's going to look at him and be like, you're only here because of your dad, which I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there because of his dad, because LeBron James has done a ton for the NBA, and he's been the best player for the last 20 years.

But it has to suck deep down to be like, everyone's talking about me in this way. That does suck. That part sucks. But I don't feel bad for him because he is in the NBA. I know. He got an NBA contract. He gets to play in NBA games. He's a Los Angeles Laker. If he didn't want all the stuff that goes along with it, all you have to do is say, you know what, Dad? Let's be realistic. I'm not an NBA player. I don't know why he didn't go back to college. Yeah. It would have been just as fun. It would have been great. Yeah.

Cool Thrones' Victor Holland. Yeah. You guys ready to get deep? Let's get deep. Get deep on me. All right, so this is from Dylan Dethier, who is a writer for Golf Magazine. Is that another Trump joke? D-E-T-H-I-E-R. Okay. Dethier? Sure. Dethier. He said, what's on Victor Holland's mind? A lot about the golf swing, plus this.

And this is a quote from Victor Hovland. What do you think happens after we die? We don't know. The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot. Okay. The establishment? That's one explanation. But if you look at our ancestors, there's a huge culture that goes into preparing for the afterlife. Were they just idiots or were they on to something? Did this guy just discover religion? I'm just curious to find out. We've gotten sold that we have all the answers, but there's just so much we don't know. I find those questions super motivating and I just want to figure it out.

Okay, yeah. I think his mind is... I don't know how focused he is on the open this week. Just asking questions. What do you think happens after we die, Hank? Reincarnated into a different animal. What animal? It's different for every person. But an animal where you can't speak, so you can't share your knowledge. Oh, so you just have to exist with all your knowledge that you have? You would be a moth because you'd just fly directly at that lighthouse. Yeah. Yeah.

So Victor Hovland's just sitting around with this in his brain right now? They're like, yeah, what's going on? How are you getting prepared for the U.S. Open, Victor? And he was just like, what happens after we die? I think what happens after you die is you get eaten by worms. We all just become worms. So this guy, this is not a championship mentality that he's in. I don't think so. When you're entering a major championship week, you don't... Or maybe it is. Maybe he's so unfocused on golf, he's just going to play well. How can you focus on golf? That's the thing. He's just...

I don't know. I don't think he's going to play well. Not to get on the Victor Hovland thing, like going down this weird questions, but it is kind of weird that we bury people. Well, what are we going to do with them? I don't know, but just like thinking about it,

That is kind of weird. Do you think in like 50 million years, people are going to be digging like on, you know, on Long Island, there's a giant cemetery. Yeah. The giant cemetery that we have there. Yeah. In 50 million years, are they going to be digging there and they're going to find that huge cemetery and just make oil out of all of us? I don't know, but it's just, I'm just, this is one of those things you shouldn't think about things too much. Just thinking about like you put someone in a box and you put them in the ground and that's it. That's kind of weird. Yeah. Yeah.

Or you could get cremation. You could get cremated. Cremation's better. Which feels a little less weird. I like cremation. It does feel a little less weird. You could at least be like, you know, put a little me here, put a little me there. Put a little me on the golf course. Yeah. Put a little me more on the golf course. You know what? Just pour the whole thing on the golf course. Ocean. Chop me up, do a line of me. Golf course. Yeah. Oh, Hank.

Oh, if Hank dies before us, we got to get him cremated and we'll fucking sit his ass in a chair at work every day. Fuck you, Hank. You're coming to work, buddy. I will haunt you. Yeah, you will. I won't be coming to work. I'll be retired. I fully believe that if Hank had the powers as a ghost to choose, if you want to be a friendly ghost or a haunting ghost. Oh, yeah.

Hank would show up and just ruin everything. Put Hank back in like the 10th grade math class. Yeah. Like, here you go, buddy. Take a seat. I want my body to be jettisoned into outer space after I die. Because it's a vacuum, right? So nothing eats away at you. So that way my body is just floating around space forever. I like that. Until like a civilization discovers me and brings me back to life, puts me in a zoo. I like that. Yeah. I like that. Thanks, Victor.

Yeah, thanks, Victor. Got us going. Got us talking. Who is the establishment in this case? Yeah. The establishment tells you the neurons stop firing. Earth? God? NWO. NWO. Yeah, W-E-F? Yeah, the establishment's not the right word there. The establishment says that when you die, you die. The establishment will say your neurons will stop firing, your body will rot. I think in this case, the establishment means people who are smarter than you. Doctors? Or could the establishment be your own body?

His own brain maybe tells him that? His own brain stops the neurons stop firing. So he's at war against himself? Yeah. Okay, Victor, great thought starter. Yeah. Way to go, dude. What happens after we die? I might have to bet him. I might have to bet him. I'm going to do a death bet. Yeah, I'm betting him. Fuck it. For a little bit. Yeah. We got him. He gets the clear jug and he's just all morose and sad because he's like, yeah, but you know what? Like one day I'm going to die. And then what? Maybe he becomes a golf ball. That would suck. Yeah. Just get smashed around.

Maybe one of those old ghosts that hangs out at the golf course after they win a tournament there. We've seen the movies all the time. Okay. PFT, your hot seat, cool throne? My hot seat was going to be Bronny, but I feel like we've reached the depths of the Bronny conversation. So my cool throne... Kayla Clark? Hot seat, Kayla Clark. Charlotte?

caitlin clark caitlin clark might get a free trip to paris i don't know we'll see uh cool throne stephen a smith yes because he won the divorce officially stephen a smith has won the skip bayless stephen a smith divorce it took a few years to get there skip seemed like he was happy with his new flame things were going well with him and shannon then shannon said you know what i can do better he goes off does his own podcast gets it

5 trillion views on it. Works for ESPN. Seems to be having a good time. Then they tried to replace Shannon with like five different people on Undisputed. Yep.

And it just wasn't hitting the same for Skip. So Skip is out at Fox Sports, I believe, at the end of the summer. Yeah, what is he going to do? I offered the intern spot on part of my take to Skip Bayless. Love that. I think that if Skip wants to reach the next generation, this is a good place to do it. Have him on that couch over there. We need a Cowboys fan all the time. I mean, there's always room in this world for Skip Bayless. Yeah.

like taking off a cowboy's jersey and throwing it into a trash compactor and walking out of the room. Those videos are always going to hit. This is kind of a win for the world. In what way? Like Skip, I've always thought Skip is the, he sucks. Like I, Stephen A. Smith is playing a character. I like Stephen A. Smith. I know that he can be a provocateur, but he's doing somewhat of an act. Skip is kind of just an asshole.

But I kind of like that. Yeah, I guess like I wouldn't want to hang off Shannon. I wouldn't want to hang out with him or work with him. But I would be bummed if we didn't get any more Stephen A. Smith. I'd be bummed if we didn't get any more Shannon. There's like a like coward is weird, but like he still is kind of funny. You know what I mean? Where he'll say stuff and you're like, oh, that's funny.

Skip doesn't really add anything but besides being an asshole and running like the same three plays. Yeah. He just feels different than the other guys in that group. But I do love something about Skip Bayless. I mean, I don't want to have a conversation with him. I don't want to hang out with him. I don't want to work with him. But there's I feel like the sports ecosystem needs a Skip Bayless.

Somebody that's so like dead set Every single moment of Skip Bayless' life Is focused on how can I make this About LeBron James Or the Cowboys I mean he was heartbroken that Bronny wasn't playing well Because I think he wanted Bronny to be Better than his dad Yeah

He'll come on the show now, I'm sure. He'll have to, like, I'm sure we'll have Skip Bayless on in, like, the fall or the spring. Him being like, you know, I have this new project. I think we should hire him. Everyone please go listen. I think we should hire Skip Bayless. Yeah. Imagine him just hanging out in the office all the time. Ernestine, dual package. We need Ernestine. Gotta have Ernestine. Gotta have Ernestine. He's his producer. Can't sleep in the same bed, though. Yeah, Skip. On the weekdays. Oh, does that mean they're going to...

Are they going to start sleeping in the same bed every night? They might start fucking. Oh, my God. In which case you're going to. This sucks for Ernestine. I feel bad for Ernestine. What if Skip and Ernestine start doing it? And then all of a sudden, like, Skip Bayless changes his entire tune on life. He's like, I found the love of a woman. Yeah. Getting laid is awesome. LeBron, you're actually a great player. Yeah, you're a cool dude. I apologize for everything. My bad. Tim Tebow, I tried the virginity thing. Having sex is way better. I no longer love you. Yeah. So Skip's out.

Sad day. Sad day for sports. Yeah. Okay, my hot seat is Florida State. Oh, they're doing top ten quarterbacks right now. See that, Max? Yeah, top ten quarterbacks, and Jalen Hurts is not in the top ten. No, it's a Jalen Hurts revenge tour this year. It's going to be great. I don't see a Dak on that list. Oh, he's at ten. He's at ten. Behind Jared Goff. Florida State has been announced, so the ACC is still up in the air.

Weird shit. Everyone thinks they might leave. The Big Ten and the SEC came out and said they are not interested in taking Florida State. They basically said it makes no financial sense for league and they have not been a good partner.

They've not been a good partner. I think they've just been upset or just riled stuff up. They've been a disruptive partner was the quote. So reading between the lines, it seems like Florida State wants to be treated like they're now the star of the Big Ten. Yeah, but also this means nothing because this is essentially they're saying, so Big Ten SEC unlikely to add Florida State if it leaves ACC and ACC survives. Those two things aren't going to happen at the same time. Right.

This is like when the Big Ten was like, we're not going to take Washington and Oregon if the Pac-12 survives. When Washington and Oregon are gone after USC and UCLA are gone, the Pac-12 is not surviving. If Clemson and Florida State leave the ACC, they're not going to survive. So the Big Ten and SEC basically are saying we don't want them –

Unless the SEC is gone, which if they leave, they'll be gone, in which case we want them. It also might seem like Florida State is, they're on the Titanic, which is the SEC, which is sinking. They get on a lifeboat and they're like, why is there no open bar? Yeah. It's like the Big Ten feels like a great fit. Really anything. Florida State should be in the SEC. Yeah. Geographically, it would make a lot of sense. Yeah, the disruptive partner part though is funny. I understand why Florida State would not want to be in the SEC with the recruiting in that area.

It's better if you're in the Big Ten for that. But yeah, they're going to get out at some point. Yeah, we're still going. We're going to get two super conferences. And then my cool throne is the haters and the doubters, of which there are many, because I came back with Doug's last night or Monday night. We're going to stream again tonight, Wednesday night, 730 Central. I'm terrible at this game.

Yeah. It's going to take some time. What the fuck, Hank? You were, before we started taping, you're like, it's fine. You'll be fine. Well, from, you were definitely. Take your headphones off. Take your headphones off. Take your headphones off. I am not listening. It's better for you to be really bad to start. But I don't want to be as bad as I am. I understand that. I understand that. I'm just saying. I didn't sleep last night. From a holistic point of view. I didn't sleep last night. That Stanford boss is going to kill me.

It's like it's training camp. It's like, you know, as a coach, I'm not a coach, but like looking at it from the outside, it's like it's better to have, you know,

But what if I never get good? Like Belichick. Even no matter how good you are, you want to break down the bad things. It's almost good to have things to break down and improve on. You learn more from mistakes than you do from success. And Big Hat can learn textbooks from all the mistakes. Memes is my co-offensive. He's my Ernie Adams. Wasn't a great night for my first night with Ernie Adams. How's that working? Memes?

I thought last night went well. It went well. It went well. Why can't you just blame your defense? I did. Okay, good. I also blamed my kids. I blamed Xbox, the PlayStation. You said that Coach Doug's a one-kid guy. Yeah, I said he's a one-kid guy. I'm going to have to have a talk with kids two and three and be like, hey, you might have to leave for a while. Yeah. Because I got to coach. Minimize distractions. Yeah, it's great. The game is great. It's so much fun to be back, but...

I also feel really bad for Washington State because they're like, we believe in you. And they don't realize Doug's is – he'll be out as soon as he gets a better offer. That's how Doug's works. So if I win some games, I'm gone. Either way, the haters and doubters of which there are many get a lot of. Is this a lost season? No. Have you thought about expanding the playbook? Yes.

But that's easier said than done. What are you going to say, Max? I just wanted the listeners to know that this is real football coach. You're a real football coach right now. I am trying. It's consumed all of your brain. How many people was that the first thing that you said to today is like, Doug stinks? Yeah.

Oh, every single person I saw. It's completely consumed your mind. It's all I've got on my mind. It's a football coach. You're a real football coach. I forgot what it's like to be doing this where you're playing video games for a lot of people and it eats away at me. I didn't sleep last night. I was like, God damn it. Two and three is so much better than one and four. If you just weren't an idiot in that Stanford game.

Have you guys seen the screenshots that are going around of players, like people that maybe it's when you're a player in the game and you get like text messages from your teammates? Yeah, I think a lot of them are fake. Are they fake? I think so. Asking you if you want to come out. Memes is my recruiting coordinator as well because I need him to just we don't have time right now. So he'll let you know if that happens. Okay. If he gets hit up. Okay. Should we do the Mount Rushmore? Let's do it. This is going to be a good one.

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Of movies and TV shows we've never seen. Now, this is going to be honor system. I think we all trust each other. We also all know a lot of where our blind spots are. Also, these are deeply embarrassing things at times, to admit. Yeah. Very. No, I've had this theory for a while where one of my picks might be out there, but-

I think that everyone has one or two movies or shows that they just missed. And when you say it out loud, people are like, what? How is that possible? And you always hear them talked about. You're like, you don't want to. Because then you're just distracting the conversation about the movie or show to everyone. Be like, wait, you haven't seen that. I have one on my list that I actually think that I've just said, yes, I've seen. And I have not seen. Because I'm so embarrassed about it.

And it eats me up inside because it's something I would love. But yeah, this is going to be Mount Rushmore people are going to be very upset about. By the way... But also, everyone that's upset also has something that they... It's like...

Yeah. Everyone has these. Yeah. And guess what? I would love for this list to be bigger because there's nothing better than being like, I haven't seen this classic movie or TV show and now I get to go watch it. Yeah. During COVID, I got to watch all of Game of Thrones for the first time. And it was incredible. Yeah. I was so happy. And people were jealous that I got to do it. Right. There might be one person that doesn't have anything they missed. Jeff Lowe.

I don't think Jeff Lowe's missed anything. He's a freak. He sees everything. He's a freak. By the way, I don't think anyone responded to the AWO hit me up who said that we could literally do cat in the hat in the punishments, that one of the punishments could be getting a cat. I'm down. Okay. Are you? I'm allergic to cats. Yeah. What? So you'll have to get one of those skinless weird cats. No thanks. Yeah. Yeah.

No, there's hypoallergenic cats. I went through this process last time. I think Blake would make short work of that cat. So you're out. But the listeners. Do we want to murder a cat? There's no content. True. Good point. Just for the record, I was down. I was down too. I'm not going to, but I have given it a little more thought. I'm down, but since Max said he's out, I don't think we should do that as a single guy. Yeah, no, definitely be weird mood. That's why you got to make it not weird and get three cats.

That's how you make it not weird. All right. Mount Rushmore. So what's the order? I'm going first? Yep. Big Cat, Hank, Max, me. Okay. My 1-1. I think this is going to hurt PFT. It's an easy 1-1. I've never seen any of the Star Wars. Yep, me too. Not a single one. I didn't even put that down on my list because I knew you were going to take it. And I know, obviously, Darth Vader. I know, like, the story. Never seen it. Who's Darth Vader's son?

Luke Luke I am your father Yeah like that's the shit that you know But you don't Nothing else I Yeah I just never I don't like sci-fi And that was I just never watched it Who's Darth Vader The originals Who's Real name Anakin Luke Herringo There you go Oh Okay That was close Wait Anakin Skywalker Anakin is Darth Vader Oh this is gonna get Clem and Robbie so mad This entire Mount Rushmore I love this And then Yoda is the grandfather Groku

No, Groku is Yoda's son. Nope. What's R2-D2 in C-3PO? They're just computers? They're in all the movies. And then Chewbacca is... R2-D2 might be the sneaky main character. So Luke and Princess Leia is his brother or sister. Luke and Princess Leia are twins. And they fuck? And they make out. Oh, okay.

And then Han Solo is... What's he? What does he do? He's Luke's buddy. Him and Chewbacca are boys. Chewbacca's his pet. Chewbacca's his partner. Pet. Partner. Does he have a leash for him? No. Who made C-3PO? Anakin. So he's a robot inventor? Yeah. What's the guy you dress up as in case races? Who's that? Episode 1. He is a Sith Lord that gets killed by Anakin after Darth Maul kills...

Oh, no. He gets killed by Obi-Wan Kenobi. Who's that? That's Anakin's master, or what do you call it? Anakin was his apprentice. Sensei? Mentor? Anakin was Obi-Wan's apprentice. And the Ewoks were all just baby Yodas that hang out on the planet. They're like little baby bears. How is Anakin related to Luke? Father. Anakin is Luke's father, but Luke came first. No, but in Star Wars, it started...

4, 5, 6, which is about Luke. Darth Vader's the bad guy. Did they do that on purpose? And then 20 years later, they did 1, 2, 3, which is Anakin's beginning leading up to him becoming Darth Vader. And then they did 8, 9, 10, which are fucking horrible and ruin the entire franchise. Anakin is Darth Vader? Yep. And he is Luke's father? Correct.

But the first, the Obi-Wan Kenobi is Luke's. Is this Rushmore just going to be explaining every single movie or show that I do here? No, just this one. Obi-Wan Kenobi was Luke's, was Anakin's master. And then he was in the sequel trilogy. He also was Luke's master. But then Anakin kills, Darth Vader kills Obi-Wan. Who kills Jar Jar?

I don't know. I think Jar Jar survived. So Jar Jar wins. What are the things that... People think Jar Jar was the ultimate villain, Snoke. Oh. But that got proven to be wrong. What are the big elephant things? That you just... Because I did play the video game. The video game rocked when the first video game, you just ride around them and you rope them off. And what is Bill Burr? He's a Mandalorian. Got it. Okay. Okay. All right, Star Wars.

All right. My one one. I think you guys know this. If people hated me before, I think this might be. Yeah. It's going to be the one that I said. My career with the AWL is I apologize. I know the characters. I've seen Twitter clips of red blogs. South Park. Oh, you've never watched an episode of South Park. Okay, Hank. That's not the one. Can we talk? Can we talk, Hank?

I have seen enough episodes of South Park that I made myself ineligible, but I have probably seen less than six episodes of South Park. I've had roommates that have watched it. I never have really cared for it. I've never sat down. Yep.

By myself or with a roommate, I'm going to watch an episode of South Park. I've seen when someone will post to Twitter, like, South Park did this version of whatever, talking about current events. So I've seen clips. I know Cartman. I know PC Principal, Billy Football, the Big Balls guy. I'm with you, Hank. There's a guy that always dies. Eric dies every episode or whatever. Kenny. Kenny. I was going to say Cartman.

I'm with you, Hank. Like, I had to take it off my list because I have sat down and watched probably like four to five of them, but I never have watched a full season. I don't really know, like, the jokes. I know it's funny. I just never got into it. Yeah. Did you watch the movie? No. No.

And I see my TikTok algorithm has like the behind the scenes of them doing the voice. Yeah, they're incredible guys. It's funny stuff. It's like the funny. I'm ashamed. I love South Park. It's one of my favorite shows. Were you not allowed to watch it when you were a kid?

That's part of it. Yeah. So I never watch it as an adult. I have one of those as well. I have one of those as well. I think South Park, for me, it just came out at a time that I kind of wasn't watching that type of TV. Yeah, I couldn't watch it in my house. And then when I got older, I never got into it. My parents were very cool about letting me watch. If it was in cartoon format, I could watch any show. So it was like Beavis and Butthead, Simpsons, South Park from the time I was really young, which I'm thankful for. But...

South Park is a big one. I did not think you were going with South Park. I need to know what one you guys thought I had. We're not going to say it. Yeah. Because we don't want to trigger something that gets you to say it. I mean, I also... I'll say it at the end. I also don't think... I don't know. I think... Yeah, whatever. All right. We have more picks. Yeah. All right. Max. But that was the one. I don't know what... Now I have no idea. Was it a movie or TV show? TV show.

TV. Honestly, I didn't have this one on my list because I didn't even think about it because I've never seen it. But that just sparked me. I've never seen The Simpsons. What? I've never seen The Simpsons. That's shocking. Ever? Never. Never seen it. That's a great pick. I should have said that. Great pick. God damn it. It didn't even cross my mind because I've never even thought about watching it. Wow. Because it was one of those things like when I was a kid, I couldn't watch it.

And then I just like South Park and Family Guy. So I was like, I don't care about The Simpsons. It may have been like something like Hank said, like people around me have probably been watching it while I've

But I've never sat down and had the intent to watch an episode of The Simpsons. I think seasons three through eight on The Simpsons are the best TV ever made. OG Simpsons. So Max gets OG Simpsons on this? OG Simpsons. Yeah. Get OG Simpsons. All right. All right. All right. Okay. Good pick. PFT? My one one is going to be the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

I've never seen a Marvel movie. Any of them? I've never seen a Marvel movie. You've never seen Iron Man? Never seen Iron Man. Iron Man is the one that most people... I feel like you've seen at least one of these. You have to pick one of them. I haven't seen any of them. No, I think that counts. It's like Star Wars. No, no, no, I know, but I feel like... No, no, I understand that.

I'm saying I feel like there's one that he's seen that he doesn't realize he's seen. Okay, all right. That's my point. Unless it's Iron Man. Name the most common ones. It's Iron Man. And none of the Avengers? I did see 15 minutes of Iron Man 2. But that's... In a living room. None of the Avengers? That's fine. I've never seen an Avengers. Captain America? Nope. Spider-Man? I have seen Batman. Daredevil? Spider-Man... But it has to be Tom Holland's Spider-Man. Ant-Man? Nope. Batman's not in the Marvel. No Spider-Man.

You haven't seen even the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man? I haven't seen any Spider-Man. Never watched a Spider-Man. That's insane. I haven't either. That's even more crazy. I haven't either. You could even put the Spider-Mans on there. Yeah. Blade? Like the Tobey Maguire. Blade is not Marvel. I might know it. Yeah. Isn't Blade a Marvel? I don't think Blade is a Marvel. No. I don't know what that is. That's Guardians of the Galaxy. Guardians of the Galaxy is another one that's... I haven't seen most of them. That's the one with the raccoon and the tree, right? Yeah, the tree. Endgame. Endgame.

I've only seen the Iron Man's and like one of the first Endgame movie or the first Avengers movie. I promise you have never seen a Marvel movie. Yeah. And they're like, if you go down the list. Black Panther. Oh, is that a Marvel movie? Oh, got him. Yes. Yes. Black Panther's Marvel. I did watch Black Panther. I did not see Black Panther. Yep. Black Panther's Marvel. Damn. Okay. I was actually worried about saying I hadn't seen Black Panther because I have not seen Black Panther. Black Panther's good. It's very good. I saw it on an airplane.

Dang. All right, so I'll take... That was honestly integrity, right? I'm going to take the Avengers franchise then. Yep, that works. But also just know I've never seen a Marvel movie besides that. I have literally never seen any of these movies. Not a single one. Blade is Marvel, by the way. Is that the Wesley Snipes? Yeah. You've never seen Blade? I haven't seen Blade from back in the... Maybe I saw Blade 2. So you have what? The Endgame? Avengers. I've got the entire Avengers series, yeah. Got it.

I had that on there as well. I haven't seen any of these. Okay. Not a single one. I hate that you found Black Panther. I forgot. I knew you had seen one. I'm going to dig into your choices now, big time. I mean, I knew you'd seen one. I was going to pick... Wait, you've seen Mandalorian, haven't you? Oh. What? Baby Yoda. You never watched any of it? No, I like the memes and shit. I post the memes with the coffee.

The Endgame was what I was going to pick as well. The Avengers. Avengers. Yeah. So I got the Avengers franchise. And then my second, Harry Potter. What? Never seen a Harry Potter. Also, that's a show. Never read a book. It's Star Wars. But no, I haven't seen the Star Wars movie. You want to put movie? Okay. We can put movie. I'm pretty sure I just posted the memes because I thought he was the cutest thing ever.

Maybe we should do like a different, like the show is red and like the movie is green on the graphic. I've never seen a Star Wars movie. Yeah. Okay, but Harry Potter.

Yeah, I've never seen it. Yeah, no, that's... Never read it. Those are two heavy hitters for you. Yeah, never watched it. People get very mad at me about the Harry Potter thing. I know that Max looks like that one guy. Hagrid. Yeah. I actually watched... I read the books as a kid, probably the last books I ever read, and I forget what caused it, but I got into Harry Potter movie binge this year.

I re-watch them all. I do that like once every like three years. I love Harry Potter. I haven't seen any Harry Potter as well. I went on a Harry Potter podcast a couple years ago. Never saw anything. They explained Harry Potter to me, so I understand part of it. And there's houses, right? So you can be in a different clan. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I've never. Would you rather be Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, or Ravenclaw? Ravenclaw. Easy answer. Slytherin.

That's a good one. That's a very happy people. Ravenclaw is a good answer. Ravenclaw is mid. You want to be Hufflepuff, right? Gryffindor. Well, it depends.

Ravenclaw's not a bad pick. Max? The Wire. Never seen a single episode. It's always one that's been on my list of like, I have to watch this. I have to watch this. People are going to hate this so much. Favorite show of all time. Watch it probably once a year. I have read the oral history, actually, of The Wire. It's really good. Very good. Every season is good. Every character is great. There's no good guys. There's no bad guys. The bad guys are good. The good guys are bad.

It's incredible. Mm-hmm. Shit. You don't know Omar? Omar Cummins. No, not at all. Damn.

Chain of command, McNulty. I see that all the time. I feel like even if you haven't seen a lot of these shows, you've been exposed to enough GIFs from the show. See, I know nothing. I don't even know if I... I probably have seen Wire GIFs. I would have no idea they were from the Wire. You've definitely seen the GIF of Wee Bay scratching his chin when he realizes something's going on. That's the, oh, shit. Price of the brick went up. Let him know we back up. That one you've definitely seen. That one sounds familiar. You've definitely seen that.

Okay. Such a good show. Wait, am I up? Oh, no, I went first. Yeah. It's an order. I'm going to go. I said this on the show a couple weeks ago. The Matrix. Yeah. Red pill, blue pill. Good pick. Dodging bullets. You haven't seen any of them? We're living in a simulation. Yep. Like red pilled. Is red pill political or is that Matrix? It's become political, but the initial...

of the red pill and the blue pill was the red pill, you can see what's really going on under the surface, and the blue pill is just go back to your life and fuck around. So do you want the truth? And what does he take in the movie? He takes the red pill. He takes the red pill. Matrix 1 was so good. Loved that movie. Yeah. It was so good. It's a big-time deal, too.

Alright, I got two. I think I've said this one before. I've never seen a full episode of Friends. That one's on there. I've just never seen a full episode. That's a banger. I thought about putting that on my list. I think I've seen too many...

Half episodes of Friends. I've seen clips, but I was a Seinfeld guy through and through. Yeah. I've seen every Seinfeld a thousand times. I just never liked Friends. Once you realize that they put a laugh track for every single other word, it kind of ruins it. Not that I ever really loved it, but... Listening to Friends from a different room, it will annoy the fuck out of you because you just hear pause, laughter, pause, and you're like, there's no chance this show could be that funny. Yeah. All right. Here's the one that I'm really shamed about.

really ashamed about because I definitely have just been like yeah I've seen it and I truthfully have never seen it and it's also movies that I would absolutely love and I know I'd love I've never seen a single Fast and Furious hmm

Yeah, it's good. I'm like, this actually pains me. I'm actually kind of, I've only seen a couple. It pains me to say, especially because Feidelberg is one of my favorite people in the entire world. Yeah. And his excitement for it gets me excited. I'm like, I know I'd love this. And it fucking pains me. I've never seen a single Fast and Furious. Feidelberg turned me on those, but I've never loved the movies.

I saw the first two and they're good that you can just turn your brain off Yeah, but that's the type of movie I love Yeah, it's a great turn your brain off movie Yeah, so that hurts, it hurts I'm happy I've been able to say it out loud What's the, I don't want to talk about it, Kuh? Okay It's me? Yeah These are more, my last two are more from when we were younger Or when I was younger Jurassic Park

Okay. Oh, you stole that from me. I never saw that. People would always talk about it. That was the original when I said that like five years ago and people flipped on me. Really? Yeah.

I should have seen that. You can get away with it. Yeah, I feel like there's movies that when I was younger, like I had a lot of movies on VHS, and if it wasn't in my collection, I never saw it. It's really about the first one. The first Jurassic Park, I think, is the best. The first one with Chris Pratt where he's doing the thing to the raptors, the stop. No, yeah, I'm talking about the OG Steven Spielberg. Yeah, I've seen Jurassic World. I don't think I've ever seen Jurassic Park. Why the fuck don't we have Jurassic Park yet?

Why is that not a real thing? Because it'll take over the world. I don't give a fuck. Who cares? Instead of buying a website so that you can post on it, Elon, buy a fucking dinosaur. Make dinosaurs for the people. Yep. All right, Hank. Or no, Max. Good pick, Hank. I had it on my list. Never seen Gladiator.

It's a good one. Never seen Gladiator. That hurts. And that's one that I know is such a cool guy movie to talk about. Are you not entertained? That's one, though, that I'm jealous of you because it is awesome. And there's a new one coming out. Yeah. So you can watch both. I need to watch it, but I just never have. Joaquin Phoenix. But that movie holds up. Yeah. Everyone should have to watch one of these and do a review. Okay. Okay. You guys have to watch eight movies.

Yeah, I do have a lot of movies. Well, no, PFTs is like 20. No, he just got Endgame. Is that still four? Avengers is three or four. I have, what, how many Fast and Furious are there? Oh, you have Fast and Furious. I think there's 10 Fast and Furious and 10 Star Wars. But that's also, it's easier to miss those because if you miss the first, you just say no. And that's what I've done. All right. You have two picks, PFT.

I'm deeply ashamed of this one because I do think at some point I have said that I've seen one of them. Yep. The Godfather. What? I've never seen Godfather. There's no way that's true. It is true. I don't believe that. The scene I remember I saw there was a grandfather. We've joked about it a million times about LeBron and you've known the characters. I know the characters. I feel like this is...

Well, no, you can't say that. Oh, okay. I'm being honest. I know. I'm being honest. I know the amount of times we've talked about it. I know the Corleone family. I know that Fredo, I did it. I know it was you, Fredo, and it breaks my heart. Kiss him, right? That's his brother, right? What? Fredo Corleone is Alfonso's brother? Yes. Kisses him, says, I know that. I know the references. I know that the old guy dies having a heart attack.

In his garden. Yeah. Right? With his granddaughter around him. Grandson, I think. Never seen any of The Godfathers. I've only seen them like twice, so that's not that crazy. And the first one I watched in school. The crazy part I was saying is we've made fun of LeBron like a thousand times talking about The Godfather. For reading The Godfather. Right. There's been times where I've tried to watch Godfather 2 and I feel like it's a movie...

It's long. It is. It puts me to sleep. I've turned it on and I fall asleep. It's so good. And so the Godfather 3 is the one with De Niro, right? No, Godfather 2. De Niro's in all. No, De Niro's in Godfather 2. But the third one is the one we don't talk about. Third one is just... I've never seen Godfather 3. Yeah.

Yeah. I've seen one and two a million times. I've never seen Godfather 3 either. But The Gif. Yeah. They pull me back in. That is it. I do want to watch them, but Hank kind of put the nail on the head. It's a good pick. It's a long-ass movie. Yeah. You should watch them, though. They're great. You will enjoy them a lot. I'm jealous of you. I know, and I will watch them. The first one I watched in film school, my teacher broke it all down so it was more interesting, but I think if I was watching those on my own, I wouldn't have got past one. Yeah.

Okay, for the last pick, I want to say I almost took one, but out of the spirit of fairness, I've seen over half this movie. I've seen probably 60 minutes of it, so I did not take Toy Story. Okay. But I almost did. I've never watched the entire thing. I didn't watch Toy Story until I had kids. Yeah. Like, I didn't see it as a kid. Yeah. So I'm going to go with Hunger Games.

Never seen Hunger Games. Good pick. Good movies. Good movies. Good books. I'm jealous of you if you're able to watch Godfather. I think I've just read. I've realized I've only read books of movies. Do you ever read the book first? Books of movies? You watch the movie, then read the book? Hunger Games, I watched the movie, and then the next movie hadn't been out yet, so I read the book because I wanted to find out what happened. Got it.

Catching fire. Okay. Max? I have the same one as PFT is that I don't think that I've seen it, but I may have seen it, so I'm not going to take it, which would have been The Departed. Hank's seen it 17 times in the last two weeks. Yeah, I don't think I've seen it. I've sat next to Hank on two different plane trips, and he's been watching on both plane trips.

I was finishing it. It's a good plane movie. Yeah. It was after Missoula, and then I was finishing it. I wasn't watching it again. Okay. You just go back and forth between The Town, The Departed, Good Will Haunting. Big three. It is a nice big three for city movies. The one that I know that I haven't seen that you guys are going to get mad about is Peaky Blinders.

That's not mad. I'm just like, that's kind of like the Godfather with PFT. I'm like, I'm actually kind of jealous. Yeah. Those are so good. Season one is really good. Yeah. So good. They're great. Those are great shows and movies. What city are they in? Birmingham? Yeah. It's got a little Philly in it. Yeah. It's like the Philly of England. Okay. Hank. This one I think about saying every year around Christmas time when the debate happens.

Die Hard. I had that on my list. I had that on my list. It's a good movie. Never seen it. Good movie. I don't know if it's a Christmas movie or not because I've never seen it. Have you seen any of them? No. With Vengeance? I just know there's a tower because they put it in Call of Duty one year. Okinawa Tower or whatever. Yeah, Die Hard 1 is awesome. Awesome. Awesome. So good. And I know that Snape from Harry Potter, I believe, is the bad guy of Die Hard. Well, they don't know Snape, so... Yeah, that...

Yeah, there's nothing new to think about that. Is Snape the hat? They don't know Harry Potter and we don't know Die Hard. He's a bad guy. What's wrong with Harry Potter? A hat tells you where you have to go to school? I guess that's what people do on National Signing Day. It's a sorting hat.

Alright so my last pick I'm going to go back to the TV show All I know about this show is that people Were really pissed at the end But I've never seen a second of Lost I had that on my list too Not a second of Lost I also only watched that in school Your school played Lost for you? We watched the first season yeah

I know the premise was awesome. Which school did you go to? I forget what classes it was. It was in high school. How hungover were your teachers? Yeah, dude, every day we'd go into class and watch Lost. It was sick. No, Lost was great. That was the first show I ever binged. Like, I got Netflix when I was in high school, and I learned that you could binge TV shows. That was the first one I ever binged. I stayed up to, like, 4 a.m. every day watching it. What grade did you get in that class? Probably, like, a C. In the Lost class? Yeah.

It was an elective, and I forget what the premise even was. We watched that. We watched Lost, and we watched the bear documentary. Oh, the guy who got eaten? This class sounds awesome. You just watched a ton of TV. I think Hank's teacher was just hungover every day. Was it like a psych class? It was an elective. I forget what the premise of the elective was, but it was a great, great class. It was me and...

I don't know why, I just remember it was me and a lot of females were in the class. Like, there wasn't any other guys. I like that. Look at that female. Nice job, Hank. That's sick, dude. All right, what do you guys got? Let's do a brain dump. I had Star Trek. I've never seen a movie or a TV show of Star Trek. I don't even feel bad about that. Yeah, no, that's a nerd. If somebody were to ask me, like, are you a Star Wars guy or a Star Trek guy, I would immediately say Star Wars.

Despite the fact I've never seen any of them. Rick and Morty. Same. Had that on my list. I've seen a couple episodes. Rick and Morty. People come up to me all the time. They're like, dude, you would love Rick and Morty. They want me. They get mad that I haven't seen it. I had Mad Men. Yep. I had Mad Men. I had Mad Men. I started that, but I couldn't put it in good faith because I think I've watched two episodes. I tried to watch the first episode. Got about 20 minutes in. I was like, there's something else going on.

I texted my wife to just tell me what haven't I seen because she's like there's so many times where she's watching a show and I'm watching sports but she wrote West Wing Downton Abbey Mad Men Friday Night Lights Oh Friday Night Lights I've never seen Friday Night Lights it's a football show I saw the movie yeah it's like loosely a football show no you gotta watch Friday Night Lights Friday Night Lights Feidelberg is gonna kill you I know I had never seen Friday Night Lights until like two years ago and I watched the first couple episodes

It seems like it's going to be a good show. Dexter. Dexter. Boardwalk Empire. Yellowstone. Lord of the Rings. Harry Potter. Lord of the Rings. Homeland. Lord of the Rings is a big one. Lord of the Rings is a massive one. Homeland. Just watch the first two seasons of Homeland. Yeah, so those are all the ones I haven't seen. She just brained them. She was like, here you go. All these popular shows. Yeah.

Okay. I've never saw Indiana Jones and House of Cards. Those were the two that the big ones on. Should I pick Lord of the Rings over Lost? I didn't know which one was bigger. I think so. You had Lord of the Rings and Star Wars. Lord of the Rings is bang.

I don't even know. I've never even thought about looking at Lord of the Rings. That's how uninterested I am in it. I think the second movie is like three and a half hours long. Never. It's never even crossed my mind to be like, oh, I should check this thing out. Like, I don't want I know there's a Hobbit and a ring. So probably the reason why Big Cat took loss is the same reason I was thinking about taking lost, which is when that show came out. Oh, yeah.

It was all you talked about. And you had weeks between episodes, so you would just fill in your school week or your work week, just talk with people about, like, what do you think is going to happen? Where are they? So it was like a big part of life in the early 2000s. Yeah. Just talking about loss. Yeah, that was big. By the way, Hank, I thought you were going to say The Office.

I thought you were going to say that you'd never seen The Office. Yeah, we thought you'd never seen The Office. That's like the only show I've watched. Oh, why did that rumor start? I love The Office. Oh, we literally were convinced you'd never seen The Office. That's Shane. Shane's never seen The Office. Shane's never seen any of this. Shane's never seen this show. Shane's never had a television. I think there's people that watch The Office in real time and then people that watch it after the fact. I've done both. Same, but I was watching it in real time, too. Yeah, I was watching it in real time.

The episode after the Super Bowl was one of the most iconic episodes of all time. The rumor started that you had not seen The Office. We were just sitting around being like, how did he not see that? I might continue to believe that. I mean, Parks and Rec have only seen a couple episodes, but I have seen a couple episodes. Have you seen Seinfeld? A million times. I had the Seinfeld DVDs, Office DVDs.

Were like the two shows I had on DVD. I've watched every episode like a million times. People in the office are chatting. They're saying that you've never seen The Office or Seinfeld. Bro, let's go head to head. I'll take you all. Maybe not big cap, but I think I could. I think I go head to head with anyone in this office on. On The Office? I have no idea. Michael Scott Office. I stopped watching after he left. D'Angelo Vickers was pretty good.

Yeah, like sometimes I'll go, I'll be scrolling TV and then I'll turn on an episode and I'm like, I haven't seen this and it's because, yeah, I just got left. What was Dwight's cousin's name? Moe's. You have seen it. You're good. Also wrote the show. I have no idea. What was Andy's acapella group called? Oh, I got this one.

What the fuck is it? Someone with a mascot. No. Was it Here Comes Treble? Here Comes Treble. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know. I asked that question and I was like, wait, am I thinking of Pitch Perfect? Can you name one of his co-singers in Here Comes Treble? Yes. Rock Lee Rob. Rock Lee Rob. Yep. Great show. Great show. Great show.

Hank, I don't think you've ever seen The Office. Can we go see The Godfather together? I can't wait to see The Godfather. Yeah, I really want to see it. Which one should I start with? One. Okay. I think everyone should have to do one of these. I'll do all the Fast and Furiouses. And we should do a recap.

I'm screwed. I don't have anything I can watch. I'll do Gladiator, I guess. Gladiator. I have ten movies, seven movies, a show that was syndicated on for 15 years, and how many seasons of Lost were there? So many. What's the best Fast and the Furious? Because I feel like you can jump into Fast and the Furious at any moment. Yeah, just do one Fast and the Furious. Probably the When I See You Again. I like Fast Five.

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Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our chill week interviews, uh, sponsored by Coors Light and Chevy Silverado. It's four time pro bowler, New Orleans, uh, Saints quarterback, Derek Carr. Derek, first of all, thank you for joining us. Absolutely. We appreciate it. Uh,

Let's start. Let's let's ease in with some golf. How are we feeling about the golf? Golf game is nice right now. OK, I don't know what that means because you wake up in golf and it could be terrible. Right. Yeah. Right. So we'll see how the weekend goes. But I feel confident. Yeah. Golf's a weird sport where for me, at least sometimes when I wake up and I feel great. Yes. I play terribly when I wake up and I feel awful.

I go out there and I just play really well. So I don't know. It probably says more about me mentally than anything else. Definitely. For sure. But, yeah, so what's the expectation this week? What would you be happy with? Expectation, top 10. That's the expectation. I've gotten better every year. Top 20 last year.

Oh, you're a stick. I mean, I play quarterback. Yeah. We have to be. Yeah, that's true. It's pitchers and quarterbacks. Pitchers and quarterbacks. We have to be. Yeah. And so hopefully top 10 and then try and, you know, if you got a chance on the last day, go and win it. Yeah. How's the body feeling? Because I think you broke the record for most injuries last year. What was the full list? Full list. Oh, man. Two concussions. Yeah.

Some stuff about my shoulder that was just... It was jacked up. Okay. Jacked up shoulder? Jacked up shoulder. And then two different broken ribs. Oh, my God. How many ribs have you broken in your career? Oh, I think I'm up to...

Five? Five or six. Nobody will ever break the record for Drew Brees. He broke a lot of ribs that year. On that one hit, too? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. And then just, like, being a rotational athlete. Like, I did one, and then it got better, and then I did the other one. But, like, you imagine doing that many at once.

I know. And still trying to throw is like, that's miserable. So how long after the season ended did you feel like you were back to 100%? Or maybe the answer is you're not yet. No, I definitely, I feel 100% going into camp. So that's awesome. I was able to do everything. My shoulder didn't feel good until like probably when we were coming back in in April. That one, it just took a while. Yeah. That one just took a while. But they

They told me it was going to take a while, but it is what it is. Yeah, I think Big Cat mentioned this to you when he mentioned yesterday, but we were feeling for you last year, and you were the most injured quarterback, and we were just like, not because we had anything against you. We were like, Derek, please take a seat for a week so that Jameis can get in. We just want Jameis. We all love Jameis. We just want one-week Jameis. So he does seem like the best locker room guy ever. Yeah, Jameis is one of the greatest teammates I've ever had in my life. Like, that's...

There would be things like if I said something back, hey, I need a like this man. He was like times 10 louder and like he needs it like this. And like just as a quarterback, you know, you're walking. I walked into a situation where, you know, he was their guy, you know, and who knows what happened the year before. I didn't pay much attention to it, but I know it was tough on him. Yeah. And and now I'm walking that situation. So who knows what it's going to be like? You know, the organization wants to go in different direction, all this kind of stuff.

but he like blew my mind on just the kind of person he was. You know, like I love him as a player. You know, we all love watching him because he does not care. No. And it's like, you know, you're going to watch something exciting, whether it be good or bad, it's going to be exciting. It's going to be exciting. Someone's band's going to play. Yeah. I just don't know which one. But the one thing I love about Jameis is, you know, he doesn't get enough credit for just how good of a player he is. Yeah. You know, cause he is hilarious. He is a funny teammate. He has all the sound bites and all that, like the memes galore. Right.

But he's a great player, but he's just one of the greatest people. And you guys know that. Yeah, absolutely. So you have an interesting career because...

Your older brother, David, gets drafted number one overall, goes to the Texans. I think he broke the record for most sacks taken. Still has it. Still has it. Him didn't take it from him last year? I know it was like neck and neck for a while. Yeah. Still has it. Still has it. It was an expansion team, by the way, too. So it's like an impossible spot to get into. You're what, like a teenager when you're watching all this. Was there any moment?

where you're watching it, like football might not be for me because this, I mean, you have to see like you're sitting there and you're like, I feel for my brother because he's just put in a terrible spot. Absolutely. You know, just as a, you know, I'm just a kid. I'm like, I'm pretty good at basketball. Yeah, right. I'm a good shortstop. Right. And, you know, but like at the end of the day, I knew what I was just blessed and called to do. You know, football was just,

It just came easy to me. And so, like, I'm watching that, and I was like, well, what a great opportunity for me to learn. Yeah. And I remember Reggie McKenzie, our GM with the Raiders, he said, the reason I wanted to pick you so bad was you lived, you know, a very difficult thing to watch. Right. And your brother taught you. You were there with him. Like, you were at his house every day. Right. And my brother just groomed me, taught me everything he could, you know, got me around all the guys. And so, like, football at that point, it was like –

that path looks so easy. Yeah. You know, obviously it's not, but you know, just it, it looked normal. Right. You know, right. How hard was it though? Because I, you know, we're fans, we sit on the couch, a guy gets sacked for like, get up, like, you know, like, come on pussy, get up. But it's your brother and it's your, your family is watching this and he's going through basically literal torture. Yeah.

Was it just agonizing at times to watch him try to make it in the NFL and have that go down? Yeah, you know, the hardest part for me was I didn't understand the why yet. Because I'm just 15, 16 years old. I'm sitting there watching it. I don't know why. I don't know what the protection is. I don't know what's going on. And the hardest part was watching my mom, my grandma, and his wife. That was the hardest part for me. We have a close family. We all love each other so dearly.

and deeply and so i felt like their emotions you know like watching his wife go through i'm like golly like she's like a nervous wreck every game because like is he gonna be okay after this yeah it wasn't like are we gonna win it was like i just want him to be intact yeah just try not to get sacked more than five times today 100 but you want to talk about

like I always prided myself on being a tough, tough, tough football player, play through anything, all that, like some of the stuff that he went through. Like I was like, that's where I learned it. Yeah. I didn't, I haven't had to deal with some of the stuff he did, but you know, thankfully, but watching it was hard, but it also gave me confidence to know like, all right, I,

But he's like, teach me protections. Maybe if you're not so good here, this is a way to fix that. So it was a really good learning lesson. It's also, I would imagine, difficult because the NFL and all pro sports, a lot of it is the situation, like where you end up and who you're around and the situation that you're put in. Was it difficult for him to watch that and be like, if I had just been drafted a little bit differently, different team, different circumstance, things could have gone a different way for me? Yeah, you know, like...

He won't say it, but for me watching, now that I know what was going on, I can go back and watch his games and I'm like, holy crap, crap. I know what I'm seeing. And I go back and I'm like, dude, he's way more talented than I am. He's 240, runs a 4'6", throws the ball 85 yards, genius smart. It's like when he went to New York and he was with Eli.

Like, it was really cool. He's like, I got an organization with, like, a great team, great system, great defense, all this kind of stuff. He's like, I'd go in the game, and it was like, we'd go right down the field. It was easy. Right. You know? Right. He's like, I never felt football like that since college. Right. And so, yeah, of course, you think, like, man, what if he was in a different situation? Yeah. You know? So...

it'll never happen. But it's a tough one to deal with, yeah, because you just have to sit there and be like, what if? It's interesting because where he got drafted, you ended up moving, the family moved to Texas, right? And so you played high school football in Texas for a little bit. The fact that he's on the Texans, I know how seriously they take high school football down there. You get like a period in your school day dedicated to football. That's right. The fact that he was with the Texans might have made you a better quarterback just because of the environment that you got to play in, which is kind of crazy to think about.

100%. I got to play against Houston, especially, Texas 5A football. It was insane. We're going against...

We played one team, had 11 D1 dudes just on their defense. And you're like, you know, that's, you're not going to get that competition in Fresno. Yeah. No offense, but that's my hometown. But I was like, you're not going to get that. So it absolutely helped. And then being able to, you know, throw routes to Andre Johnson wasn't bad. That doesn't hurt either. That's a fair point. And one thing your brother's really good at, he is the number one Derek Carr defender. It's true. He's got your back. And it's good to have family.

in your corner like that and he will go after anyone that says anything bad about you. When you were growing up and he was in the league, I know you don't listen to your own media. You know, you got to try to like tune out and not listen to sports talk radio. Yeah. It's rat poison, right? Even if it's good, it's like just false sense of security. But,

When you're growing up and your brother's in the league, are you listening to what the media is saying about him? And then are you like calling up sports talk radio shows? You're like, this is Derek from Sugar Land. You need to shut your mouth about David. No, you know what's funny is like back then media was so different. Y'all remember like it was like blogs, you know. So I'm not going on a website to look at it.

blog you actually have to like opt into it yeah you have to like choose I need to see this and so for me that was like it was just newspaper but like I'm you know teenager I'm not reading the newspaper right so like and even like the team like I would play against people and

they would just think it was cool that your brother was in the NFL. And so I never had to deal with anything. I don't like what he dealt with or his wife dealt with. But for me as a kid, it was just like, my brother's in the NFL. I got sick. Yeah. And then you have another brother, right? Yeah, middle brother. He's the one who blocks everyone on Twitter. I love that. He's ride or die. He's aggressive. Yeah. I think we're all blocked. Yeah, his fuse is about this big.

He's like 6'6", 300, you know, benches 450. So it's like, I mean, he can do whatever he wants. Yeah. And he just, he patrols the streets for you. Do you know that? Like that he just has everyone blocked? I didn't know that he had everybody blocked, but which is hilarious. Yeah. No, I, it's like the most ride or die thing that I love. It's like, yeah, it's your brother. Like, of course he's going to block anyone who says shit about you. Of course. I'll take him blocking someone rather than him reacting. Cause there's times like where he'll react and I'm like, bro,

it doesn't matter, bro. Like, they're doing a job. Like, at the end of the day, like, if I saw him, they'd probably be like, what's up, Darryl? Like, what's up? You know? Yeah, right, right. And so I was like, bro, don't, like, don't react to him. But, like, for me to say that to him, I'm still little brother. So he's like, yeah, bro, like, shut up. Yeah, right, right. Now's probably a good time to bring this up, then. You actually blocked me on Twitter.

What was it about? Well, so I did some research because when you... I'm not blocked. I checked. You left the Raiders and then you posted like a goodbye statement. Okay. And then the guys sent that in a group chat. They're like, hey, Derek Carr just said goodbye. Yeah. I couldn't see it. And I was like, oh, what's going on? He's got me blocked. So Hank looked it up. We did this live on PMT like three years ago. Yeah. So you tweeted out, this is like seven years ago. Okay. Those who control their tongue will have a long life.

opening your mouth can ruin everything yeah and i replied are you talking about herpes so i think that's a fair reply right yeah that is yo that's so funny that's a fair reply yeah so i think that's what it did it but i maybe you just saw herpes and you were like block block maybe yeah because like that doesn't seem like something i'd block you

for it. Usually, honestly, if I block you, it's probably something to do... Someone said something about my teammate, my team, or me. And it has nothing to do... I had this one dude with the Raiders media. He was like, you blocked me. I'm like, you probably said something stupid. And I just don't want someone to like it, and I see it. Nothing is...

It's freaking social media. It's not personal. Right. But I was like, my mindset is like, I know I'm emotional. So I have to defend myself to get away from that. Yeah. And so I don't know. I don't think the herpes thing would have got me. Yeah. It could have been something else. But this is the one interaction I think that we had. But to...

I'm totally fine with you blocking me. I think it's probably good for you to block me. You don't need to see my thoughts. That's true. I'm very dumb. Yeah. If everyone in this room is agreeing, I probably should agree with you. Yeah, yeah. Just keep me blocked. Yeah, yeah. Keep him blocked. You should do that at the Rookie Symposium. Just put out like a list of people. Block all the aggregators. Block PFT commenters. If I'm not...

I'm not blocked. So if PFT has something he wants to tweet you, he can tell me and then I'll be like, this is coming from PFT. I think that's a great way to do it. Yeah. And then you can judge from that. Yeah. That's fine. I don't care. Yeah. That's hilarious. I mean, you, you, you said it, you, you are emotional, which I feel like everyone has always been like Derek Carr is one of the best teammates and like, he's the heartbeat of the team, especially with everything you guys went through that Raiders season coaches, you know, the, uh, was, uh,

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I blinked his name for a sec. Sorry. Do you think, too, that maybe because your eyebrows and your eyelashes are a little dark, people think you're wearing mascara? Everybody. Have you ever worn mascara? Never once. It's a better way to ask the question. Never once in my life. Are you sure? I'm trying to prove it to you. There's nothing coming off. There's nothing coming off. Is it tattooed on? No. I have a lot of tattoos, but no.

Do you realize that sometimes it looks like you're wearing mascara? Absolutely. My whole life I had to deal with that. I used to get made fun of when I was a kid. It was my mom's fault because she prayed that I'd have these bright blue eyes. I was like, well, God maybe just made my eyelashes darker so my eyes look better. Yeah, right. Mom, that's really your fault. Yeah, that is. I get made fun of all the freaking time, bro. I'm like...

I don't know how else to prove it to everybody. I think you should start wearing mascara. Because then it's like... It would actually be ridiculous. Yeah, right. Then everyone's like, yeah, oh, it looks like Derek Carr wears mascara. It's like, yeah, I do. What are you going to say now? Oh, yeah. I got the whole goth thing. I got the whole, oh, I was like, bro, like...

I don't know how else to react. I did think that you were the first goth quarterback when you got drafted. Yeah, I expected you to show up wearing like a cannibal corpse shirt and just like sulking around all the time. Gruden would have had a lot of fun with that. Oh, Gruden. Gruden used to tell me that's what brings it up. He would be like...

we'd have like a bad game or we'd lose he'd be like he'd look at me with his little growl and be like you love the misery i really don't i really don't love the misery yeah i mean he's an all-time football guy i would imagine he's uh he gave it to you guys a lot i'm sure absolutely you know what people don't know about him is like one everyone on our team loved him yeah hands down he he came out and told us everything he said this is what i said this is what i've met guys like hopefully you know me by now how i feel about you and we're like

Okay. And we went on with our day. We didn't know it was going to lead to what it led to. Yeah. And then I guess when you call a commissioner certain things, it's probably not going to end well. Yeah. It's probably not going to end well. That was kind of a cool line, though. Yeah. Not going to lie. But he just, like, he would obviously rip everybody. He would tell me going out to practice, he's like, look, I'm going to cuss you out because I need to cuss somebody else out and they need to see the quarterback getting ripped. I'd be like, absolutely, dude. Yeah. Like, I don't care. Would he ever go, like, extra when you're like, all right,

He would keep going and I'd be like, all right, bro. You better be squabbling. We did it. We cussed out. Yeah, you proved your point. He was great because, as you guys see, all the clips of him doing that to guys.

there's not enough clips of how much he would love on a guy and encourage him. Any free agent we would sign, veteran, he would put clips of them up in the team meeting, and he'd show their three best plays, and he'd just be like, look at this dude. You're going to play your best football for me. This is what we're going to do, and I'm going to put you in position. All of a sudden, everyone's like, I'll run through a wall for this guy. He doesn't get enough credit for that side of him. Would he just walk around muttering to himself like Spider 2, why banana?

Oh, yeah. Spider 2 Y Banana. Jeff Leonardo is one of his closest friends, Kay. And what Jeff Leonardo would do is any saying he would have or a play that he always said, he'd make shirts. So we'd come in one day and there'd just be a picture of a spider and a banana. And so every day, he would have sayings. He would literally be mumbling them to himself. And the next day, Jeff would have a shirt with it. I love it. It was great. He loved running Spider 2 Y Banana.

Absolutely. That was one of our favorites. Was there ever a time where like, all right, maybe this doesn't call for Spider 2 wide banana coach? You know what's crazy with him is he's the king of that play. He called it like I want to say we were like 100% on that play. Listen, if it works, spam it. Yeah, he's like he's playing Madden. He's just spamming a play over and over. We used to do the wide banana, the corner. Then we would do like the little hide one. You know, you always see like you look this way and then throw it to the guy wide open. Yeah, yeah.

we hit that play. I'm not kidding you. I was like, there's no way it's going to work like four weeks in a row. Right. And it was open every time. That's crazy. Oh yeah. And you can't shake off spider too wide by data. You can't be like, no, we're not running that. That'll be in every playbook for the rest of my life. Yeah. I imagine that you got to spend some time with John Madden as well. I didn't get time. Just family members, but which is,

It sucks. Him and Kenny Stabler. Like, I met Kenny Stabler's family, but never got time with him. Yeah. Yeah. The other all-time football guy you played with or played for, I know it wasn't your full career, but Pat Hill. Yes. Is my favorite. We actually have a gambling trophy named after Pat Hill.

Do you really? Yes, because... I love that. I mean, his anytime, anyplace, anywhere, Fresno State teams where he'd be like, yeah, we'll go play Oregon, then we'll go play FSU, then we'll go play USC. Yeah. The best. So what was, like, the recruiting process? Obviously, he knew you because you're a brother, but, like, was it a no-brainer that you were going to go play for Pat Hill? Yeah, like...

Your dad offered you too, right? No. No. So he called my dad. All right. Okay. So I was getting recruited. So I was in Houston and I was getting recruited like starting in freshman football by everybody. You know, I was like, well, you know, I didn't see this in California. So I'm getting recruited. I'm getting offered. I'm starting to get, well, Pat calls my dad. He's like, Hey, I'm, this was my junior year. He's like, Hey, I'm checking on Dave. How's Dave doing? You know, he's Dave's not gonna answer his phone. You know, that was Dave doing. And my dad was like, Oh, Dave's doing great. But Derek's waiting for you to call him.

And as you could tell, Pat was probably saying a few words. That little MF-er, I didn't know he wanted to come to us. And he offered me, like, through my dad. My dad's like, hey, Fresno offered. I was like, what? And I wanted to commit right away because, like, the whole time, like, I just loved that city. I loved the ramp. Like, I was like, I want to get my name up there next to Dave's. Yeah.

I'd just be like, what a cool thing that would be just for our family. And he was like, I called him the next day. I was like, I'm coming. He's like, OK, good. Don't tell anybody. Because when we get good players to commit to us, like USC offers, I was like, man, screw that. I told him. And sure enough, USC showed up the next day at my school, like all this. Like you sure? Yeah. You sure you want to? Yeah. No, I was like, I'm going to Fresno. So it worked out. He's an all-time football guy.

My favorite. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. What was he like just like day to day? You'll love this. Like, so this is like perfect Pat Hill. He's aggressive. Yeah. What you see is what you get. But I'll never forget two stories. My freshman year, we kept dropping snaps because I was in the shotgun my whole senior year. Right. So I learned how to play under center.

Well, I drop a snap and he goes, that's it, get in here. And he gets down, grabs the ball with two hands like this. He's like, get in here. And he's only wearing grays. I'm like, bro, it was the nastiest snap I ever took in my life. But I got the snap and then he think, and then right there, he's like, that solved all the problems. So we did that. And then like later in that practice, I remember it was my first practice. And I go to take a snap in like nine on seven or half line run. And

And I say, and they snapped it too soon. And I break my finger and it's like out like this. I put it back in. He's like, time to learn how to be tough. Get back in there. So I, man, I went back in there, broken finger. I handed the ball off right-handed all day, but like,

that was Pat's way of like like pushing you to become a man yeah you know and he did that and it was great like those Fresno teams like he he basically was like we're not afraid of anyone we know we're not on the same level talent wise but it doesn't matter we'll go play football and it's beautiful yeah and it worked for him yeah you know and hopefully we can bring that back someday yeah yeah and talk about spamming plays there's probably a lot of like Devante's down there somewhere

Yes, absolutely. Especially with some of the people we were playing. Like, yeah, we played one team and literally at the coin toss. This was when me and Tay were like at our peak. Before the game, we're throwing routes and the coaches are like, we have no chance. I threw a ball from like the back 40, like threw it 60 or 70 yards, hit the goalpost. Like they're like, we have no chance. Come out to the coin toss and like they had a couple of DBs and they're like, please take it easy on us. Call it.

It's a college football game? It's a college football game? Jeez. I believe it, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you guys were electric. What was the scouting process like for the NFL coming out of Fresno? Did you have to answer questions about, like, why did you go to a small school? Because I know they, like, lean on you on that stuff. Like, they're trying to find any bit of mental weakness that you have. Yeah, 100%. And, like, they...

They picked on that a lot. Like, you didn't play against good competition. How are you going to play against the NFL? And then, like, you would have to be like, I mean, I did play against good. You know, this guy's in the league. I played Bobby Wagner. You know, like all these guys. And so, like, I was like, I understand I didn't play in the SEC, but this was my choice to go to the school I love.

And hopefully that just proves my loyalty and what I'll do for a team. Was Mark Davis involved in those conversations? I never talked to Mark. No, not before. Not before. Just Dennis Allen and Greg Olson. He seems like the coolest guy ever. Yeah. Have you ever gone to P.F. Chang's with him? I never went to P.F. Chang's, but he was there often.

every day. Yeah, I know. That's our dream is to go to PF Chang's with Mark Davis. He would absolutely. He has to do that. I know. He's there, so it's easy for him. Right. We should just show up. Drives a little van around. Drives a little van. He's got a little mini coupe. He's got a lot of cars. Yeah. But that guy, he's... I'll tell you this, man. Mark has been and will always be. He's been so good to me. He is like...

the biggest critic of his football team. But at the same time, nobody loves him more. You know what I mean? Right. And so, yeah, sure, there's times where he's probably super frustrated with me. You know, why didn't we do this? But he just wants to understand because he didn't come from that football coaching background and all that.

and so he just wants to understand the why yeah and so you know as he keeps around himself you know tom's there now in the ownership and it looked like seymour may join and all that like as he keeps around himself with like football people and all that and understanding that the process and that um i think that they'll have more success yeah and so and he also just swaggy as hell i freaking love the white all white all white is such a good look oh yeah the haircut yeah i mean you

It's a crazy haircut. He's the only one in the world who can pull it off. He told me, he's like, so when I signed my first contract with him, he's like, I'm going to buy you a car. I was like, all right, sick. Like, do I need to take it out of the deal? He's like, no, don't even worry about it. You know, Ferrari, got you. I was like, sick, man, because we always talk about cars together.

And so he's like, I'm coming over. So he comes over and he pulls out this car about this big. It's a Ferrari. He's like, got it for your kids. I already gave you enough money. I was like, this dude's awesome. That's a good prank. Did he get his hair cut in the facility? Never saw that. Okay. Yeah. I'd love to just be there to watch his hair. He might cut his own hair. He could. I know that there's one person that does it and wherever that, like he flies them in.

I do know that. That's perfect. Yeah, we need to get P.F. Chang and Mark Davis. Absolutely. He'd be a great interview. Yeah. We're going to get back to Derek Carr in a second. He's brought to you by Viator. Hank and I went on a nice little trip thanks to Viator last year. We did a little riverboat cruise in Chicago, got to know the city. Viator is a tool that you can use to plan and book travel experiences all around the world.

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Speaking of teammates, what was your favorite memory of Antonio Brown? That week? Was it a week? So, me and A.B. I loved A.B. You know, I loved A.B. Even at the end, he was like,

"Derek Carr, good dude, but couldn't handle AB." And I was like, "You know what? You're probably right." - That also is kind of telling on himself. Couldn't handle AB. It's like, "Well, dude, could you just tone it down?" - "You're probably right." And I was waiting for him to say something crazy, 'cause I got like... This is when I got mad at Pat McAfee, actually, 'cause Pat was like, "A.B. probably couldn't get the ball in practice and probably just wanted to leave." And I was like, "Bro, I got about 40 clips of I thought I was gonna win MVP that year." - Yeah, getting him the ball. - Oh my gosh. I was like, "This..."

He's the hardest practicing player I've ever seen in my life. And he practices hard.

He competes at just a different level. And, you know, hopefully he's a Hall of Famer. Like, as a player, he's a Hall of Famer. His numbers, yeah, are insane. Insane. And I loved my time with him. I let him borrow my car, you know, like when he was in town. Like, he came out, like, it's like a little four-seater Mercedes. Like, eight people come jumping out of it to come film. I was like, I freaking love this. And it was only, what was it, like two weeks? We had it. Well, I...

It depends. Into camp, I think it was two weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had him in the offseason. So we had a lot of time together throwing. But my man, there's so many freaking stories. Yeah. I mean, the hard knocks is like it was just an electric hard knocks. My favorite part of that is like, you want to see my feet? I was like, I would love to see your feet. I need you out at practice. But I'll never forget, he comes out to practice the first time. After all that, he comes out in training camp. He runs a post corner.

And usually we run the post corner and we want them flat at about 25, 30 yards. This man runs a post corner and takes off to the back pylon. I'm like, oh crap, I had to throw this thing like 70 yards. He just runs it down, catches it, goes like this to nobody. Yeah, yeah. Wow, he comes running back. He's like, let's go again. He said, throw me a go.

He goes over there, runs a go-round. I launched this go-round. He freaking takes off, touchdown. I'm like, I'm looking at Gru. I'm like, bro, I might throw for 6,000 yards with him, Waller, all these guys. I'm like, holy crap. And then his trainer comes out. Yeah, AB's done today. I was like, okay. I was like, perfect. He showed enough. Just get him to Sunday. Yeah, right, right. You got a buried delete on that, though. Did you ever see his feet? I did see his feet. Were they messed up? They were messed up. Wait, how did he get frostbite again? It was like in a cryo-bathroom. Maybe wet socks. Yeah.

In a cryo? Yeah. Which I did not know that was a thing. Yeah, I didn't either. I've never heard anybody tell me that, so I'm glad I didn't walk in there and do that. Yeah, there was the sock thing. There was the hot air balloon. The hot air balloon was awesome. Yeah, it was great. He had the helmet. He didn't like his helmet. Didn't like his helmet. Tried to fight Mike Mayock. Yes. Okay, so. It was like the most impactful two weeks ever. He was really heard from.

I thoroughly, I'll say this, like, I really enjoyed my time. Like, you sit down one-on-one, you have a great conversation. Like, he is awesome. Yeah. But then he'll do something that's just hilarious. Yeah. And everyone would, like, come to me, like, Derek, can you go talk to him? I was like, bro, just let him be. Yeah, right. If that's the biggest knock on your career that you couldn't handle A, B,

I think I like that that's the line where you're like, yeah, you know, I'm going to agree with the media on this one. I was like, you know what? I couldn't get it done. You know what? You're proud. I failed you. I'm sorry. Yeah. I did my best. You do seem like the best teammate ever. And we give you a lot of credit for the way things shook out in Las Vegas.

I'll just say, because you won't say it, you're too nice, Josh McDaniels was a snake. And the way that whole thing went down, it was very snake-like. And you just put your best face forward. And then you have an opportunity to go out and kind of select your next team. Saints are talking to you. The Jets are talking to you, right? So with the Jets thing, that was weird because you had to know they were also...

They wanted Aaron Rodgers, right? Yeah. Yeah. And the thing which was different in that situation, like, you know, Aaron's a nine billion time MVP, right? And all that kind of stuff. But you still have to trade for him. Whereas I'm free, you know, and you can still keep those picks. You can still...

So I was not asking for as much money as whatever your market, whatever they say your market is. I was like, I don't want to do that because wherever I go, man, I just want to win. And so use the money. I don't care. And so that situation, I remember sitting there with Salah. He's like, look, man, we'd love to have you. It's up to you. I was like, I would love to make that decision right now because Robert Salah is –

He is like, I am like probably his biggest fan. Like I absolutely 10 out of 10 love him would run through a wall for him. Even if he's not my coach, I'd still like, if he was like, I need you to do this. Yes, sir. Like I would do it. Yeah. And, and so like that whole situation, that was the hardest thing. Cause my brother knew coach Sala and he was like, he knew I love new Orleans, but he's like, you're going to see Sala. He was like, you're probably going to stay. Yeah. Like he was like thinking I was going to sign because of, because of Sala. Yeah.

And I remember going there, and I was like, I promised myself I had to go through the process because I didn't want to sign and then think, well, what did that team think? Right. Or what could they do? Right. And so that was hard. But, yeah, I mean, it was a weird situation. But at the same time, like, trading for Aaron wasn't a guarantee, you know, for them, you know, at that time. Yeah. So you could have made the decision right then. It was in your court. They were like, we want you to be the quarterback. I could have, yeah. I could have. But there was a –

It just wasn't the right time for me because there was still like four or five teams that I had to hear from. Right. And so it just ended up working out, you know, really for both of us. Yeah. So then you go to New Orleans. How long after you became a Saint did you actually start hating the Bucs? It didn't take me long because literally, like, they talk about the Bucs and the Falcons. Falcons, obviously. Yeah, yeah.

I was like, well, what about the Panthers? Yeah, right. But the Falcons and the Bucs in our building and around town, there's a real hatred. Oh, yeah. For some Southern really kind people, they really hate those teams. Yeah, the Bucs, yeah, the Bucs, Saints games, I feel like there's been a million fights too. Oh, yeah, especially with Marshawn. I know, yeah. With Latt's competitive, so him and Mike, they'd be getting after him. Always. You can pencil that in. Mike Evans probably will get ejected in the second quarter.

It's crazy because I know the fans, I think if you were to ask Saints fans, they would say they hate the Falcons. Like that's the big one. But in terms of like on the field stuff that we've seen, it's been like Saints, Bucs, just like World War II. Oh, yeah. I think there's some like deep personal stuff there, like where people are just like, I just hate that man. Yeah. Like when we come in that week,

And you're like, all right, Sean, you got Mike. It's like he just blacks out like for five days. You're like, oh, he'll be ready on time. Yeah, he's ready to go. Yeah. What do you think the media gets wrong about Derek Carr? Oh, I don't know. Yeah.

There's definitely perception about every guy, but it's always good. I always like to give people a chance to be like, hey, look, this is who I am. This is what I'm about that people get wrong about me. I know it sounds so silly, but I really have done my best, especially the last few years. I just don't read or hear. I try and block all that out.

But for me, like I can tell you like about me, like I absolutely work my tail off. I've tried from the beginning to be someone that kids could look at and be like, he does things the right way. Yeah. You know, like he grinds, he's maxed out whatever God gave him, you know, and he's going to be a great teammate and he's going to play consistent, hopefully good football. Yeah. You know, and I think, I think, you know, the way with the Raiders, how it ended and stuff like that.

The one thing I can't get rid of is on Instagram, these people put these lists out of quarterback rankings. Yeah, I hate those people. Those people are the worst. No, we're not going to look at ours. I don't know what it was. We do a deck at 17 just to piss people off. We do them as trolls, and it's so much fun. And my brother actually does the same thing. He'll be like, yeah, Joe Montana's not one of the greatest, even though people just start responding. Yeah, people get mad about quarterbacks. 100%. And so I think the disrespect of –

you know, some of the stuff I've been able to accomplish and like stuff I've put on film, like even the last half of last year, I was like, bro, I was the last half of last year was probably my best football I've played, you know, and you know, 2016 MVP season that people want to talk about in this season. And that's like, bro, like I feel like I'm going getting better. Yeah. That's awesome. I got comfortable. I feel like I'm getting better. I love my teammates. Um, and, um,

I don't know. So I don't know what people are saying, but like, I just feel like, like I'm still that guy. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I'm still that guy. Yeah. And you know, none of it matters until you go prove it, you know, but we won nine games and we didn't really even play good. Yeah. And so you guys, it felt like it was always like one step forward, one step back or two steps back kind of thing. That's how it felt. So hopefully, you know, we can just go out there and prove it. You know, that's what we want to do. But I still feel like,

Now I'm at the best part of my game. So hopefully I can go out there and prove that this year. I think we had you at 15, and I think we had Taysom Hill at 14. Taysom's the best football player I've ever played with. He really is. He's a jackknife. He does everything. He's unbelievable. You're not a jackknife. Swiss Army knife. There we go. So Ronald Curry, who is the greatest athlete of all time, I'll say that, was our quarterback coach last year.

RC was like, bro, when Taysom runs the football, he sees red. So I know that you're out there on the edge, probably wide open. He won't see you. So we're playing in Carolina. I think it was Monday night football. We're on the five yard line. He runs a keeper right at me. And I see my corner take off because they're like, they always talk about don't touch anybody. Don't jam a finger for no reason. So he takes off and I slip and I'm open in the end zone. And I look at Taysom's face and

And for the nicest person in the world, I looked at him as the most violent, angry, and he just puts his head down between like three dudes and pretty much trucked them all. Yeah. And I was like, dude, that was like the most violent, impressive thing I've ever seen. Yeah. But he can do everything. He can do everything. Throws, runs, catches, fullback, quarterback, tight end, receiver, slot. Box punts. Box punts. Personal protector. Yeah. Yep.

I was like, I don't just because of how stats work. I don't know how to work. But like that man is a Hall of Fame player because he does every he's he's the true sense of a football player. He plays everything. He really is. He just looks at a linebacker and then you just know he's going to run at that linebackers face. That's it. Like I'm I see a face. I'm going to run through the face. Yes. I feel like Sean Payton was in love with him.

Oh, yes. Because he had a weird man crush on him, right? Absolutely. Big time. Oh, gosh, yes. Big time. I got nervous when I came, especially like I didn't know how we handled the cap situation in New Orleans. Somehow they always figure it out. Yeah, they're always in cap. But somehow, all of a sudden, we're signing Chase Young. I'm like, how did we just do that? But I was nervous like, oh, man, Sean's definitely going to try and trade for him or try and get him out. Yeah.

Thankfully, I'm like, dude, please don't let Taysom go. Yeah. That's my guy. Don't let him go. Yeah. Have you ever caught a touchdown? Not in the NFL. I was wide open, Darren McFadden. We ran a wildcat play my rookie year, and I'm wide open down the side, and he was throwing it. And it ended up getting tipped at the line of scrimmage. That would have been my one. That would have been the one. So hopefully. The other football guy we got to talk about real quick, because we're big fans of him, is Rich Passaccia. Yes. When he came into the locker room-

Was it just the vibe because again that was the season that everything could have gone wrong went wrong for the Raiders Yeah, but he like we wanted him to get the job. He was he felt like such a football guy I would imagine it what felt like that went in the locker room like everyone just rallying around this guy. Yeah, man's man Yeah, yeah man's man Cared just as much as he cared about us winning and all that he cared about you as being a husband and a dad and like

Two quick examples of him. The whole Cleveland game gets postponed. We don't know if we're taking their flight. We're about to get on the plane, and they end up getting us off the plane. So they end up postponing the game like two days. He's like, guys, next two days, take them off. Rest your bodies, and you get your mind right and prove to me that what I did was the right thing.

We came out and we were like the most aggressive I've ever seen our team. Like everyone did it because we didn't want to let him down. You're right. For giving us those two days off, you know, which I was like two days off before a game. Right. That's insane. Yeah. You know, but crazy times. But he does that. And then the other thing he's like, you know, you need to do. He's like, you need to write a letter. And he said, you need to start writing letters. And, you know, during this busy time and let your wife know how you feel about her.

And I was like, I was like, I'd like to write a letter about like team, you know, write a letter to your wife and just tell her thank you. And he said, sometimes I'll do it and I'll put it in the mailbox for my wife. So she'll find it whenever she checks me. I'm like, this guy is the most well-rounded all around person coach I've ever been around. And so like he had the heart of our team. We all wanted him. We all, we all are like, okay, we have everything set. Now, Derek, go figure out how to get Tay here and we're good. And we'll just build on what we have.

And they ended up obviously making a different choice. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, they did. That was a bad choice. - Different vibes, for sure. - They hired a snake. - For sure, different vibes. - Yeah, so it must have been an interesting time for you guys. The craziest game, maybe in the NFL, in terms of like the way it was set up and what we almost saw happen,

was that game where you could have tied the Chargers, right? Yeah. Both teams could have gone to the playoffs. Good memory. And it goes into overtime, right? Was it 29-29? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Was there ever any talk about maybe we just let the teams tie and everybody wins? So I think...

There probably was on the sideline. But in the huddle, all of a sudden, like... So we had a third down, and I hit Zay Jones on a bench route. I remember I stepped up, hit Zay. And so I'm like, oh, here we go. Like, our mindset was like, go score. This is a rival. Kick them out. You know, like, our mind... Like, there was... It was one of the most violent games I played, too. Like, it was... Everyone's battling for their life. Yeah. Basically. And then we ran the ball. I think we ran it. I'm like...

"Wait, what's going on here?" So I remember there was a timeout and I walked over there. I was like, "Let's end the freaking game. Send them home." - Yeah. - I was like, "Even if we miss the kick." Like the worst thing that can happen is we get it blocked and they run it back. Obviously I get that.

But I was like, you got Carlson who never misses, especially with the game on the line. I was like, let's just get in there and let's run the football. So then Josh ends up making a great run and getting us in position. And then they were like, all right, run it down, take the timeout, we'll kick it. Because there was a thought of if we just let the clock run out, we're in. Yeah, we're all in. And Pittsburgh would have hated that. I think a lot of fans would have hated that. You guys did the right thing. You played a win. Played a win. And Rich was that way too. So maybe they were talking about it, but at the end he was like, no.

beat them yeah let's go beat these guys yeah especially he gets to send his kicker out there yeah special teams like yeah that's a good point you know like let's let's do it that way yeah um all right well derek this has been awesome i have one last question it's rowback question r-h-o-b-a-c-k.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q-zips polos hoodies joggers shorts 20 off rowback uh promo code take this has been so much fun uh we really appreciate you sitting down with us

How often, this is a tough question, how often have you watched the inadvertent whistle?

from the Bengals game. - Oh man, that was crazy. - That's still, I watched it last night before this interview. - Yeah. - And the whistle did come after Joe threw the ball, but it still is like the craziest thing 'cause you can see everyone stop playing. - Yeah. - And it's like, what the hell just happened? - That one was hard because like, it was, I mean, whoever won that game, just be honest, like we felt like it was set up for that team to have a good chance to get the Super Bowl. - Yeah. - Just the way the seedings were and all, like where you had to play and all that kind of stuff.

the matchups right and so for us we're like I sit back there and watch them like how what could have been yeah and the one that I think the one that hurts the most is the last play to me is when I had to force the ball in there you know the last play of the game and I got jam this ball in there and it's like you know even even our coaches I wish I wish we just got everybody in the end zone on a certain play so you could read it out and try and give someone a one-on-one but I think of those two plays like

all the time when I'm working out yeah I'm like I'm gonna get back to that situation yeah you know and like it just it feels you you know yeah you gotta find like I'm my my caddy who was my best friend he's like you're a psychopath because I'll make stories up like you talk about like I see Jordan do that it's like I make stories out like yeah they thought I you know couldn't do this or they thought you know I'm like he's like bro you're freaking weird those are those are two that's a game and that's a play like and the whistle thing you're like

I got to get back there. Yeah. You will. Like a vision board. Just think about that. Do you ever think about when you're working out, getting way, way stronger in case you have to make a tackle like Mac Jones did when they did that double lateral against you guys? How crazy was that? That was nuts. So I remember sitting there and, first of all, just being a Raider-- and Raider fans know this, so I'm not being mean about it-- we have lost in some crazy ways-- That's a fact. --in the last 10 years plus.

And I remember when he broke the line scrimmage and took off, I was like, there's no freaking way we're about to lose like this on a run where they're trying to run the clock out. He threw that ball back in the air, which I've never seen before. And Chandler caught it. And I was like,

There's no way Mac tackles him. Chandler's arms are from here to there. Not a fair fight. And when he broke that tackle, it was the craziest thing ever. But what I have learned is I tried to hit Mike Mitchell in Pittsburgh one time. There was a fumble, which was a blown whistle. I didn't hear the whistle because it was so loud. And he takes off, I take off, and I hit him as hard as I could, which probably looked just normal. And my whole shoulder went numb. I couldn't move it.

And my coach said, if you ever do that again, I just won't play you. Yeah. And I was like, okay. So now I let people get past me and I just grab them. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. I'll take a horse call. Yeah. The backpack on him. Just let him go by and then jump on. I threw a pick against Kansas city. I let Breland get in front of me and then I went and cause I could chase him and I grabbed him and threw him. You just got to show a little bit of effort for the tape. You don't have to make the tackle. Yeah. You just got to try. Yeah. You got to be like, all right, there he is running down the field. That's fine. I tried. I had one last year. I threw a pick against the Rams.

It's a terrible throw. But I didn't see the guy throw it. And I'm standing there, and I'm like, please cut back. And he runs right at me. I was like, crap. And then finally he cut back. I just jumped on the tackle trying to get a stat. Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. Well, Derek, thank you so much, man. We appreciate it. It's been a lot of fun. Tell your brother to maybe unblock us. You don't unblock PFT, but tell your brother. We've got a system now. I'm not going to because I like our system.

Yeah, but your brother could unblock us and we'll probably get blocked again like two seconds later, but that's fine. That's a part of the game. It's all love. It's cat and mouse. I appreciate you guys for real. Good luck this weekend. Thanks so much. Thank you. Hope you win. Yep, thank you. Derek Carr was brought to you by Shady Rays. Get ready for the season with the official sunglasses brand of Barstool Sports. It's Shady Rays. Our friends have you covered with their newest and bold premium polarized shades.

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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend Shane Bacon. You can listen to him on Get a Grip and Ping Proving Grounds. He's got a book, The Golfer Zoo, great children's book. He is a golf guy through and through, and we wanted to do an open championship preview with Shane. So, Shane, let's start with this. Let's start with a—I know you always have great stories and backgrounds, but Royal Troon.

Give us the background of Royal Troon, the golf course, and what we should expect when we're watching this weekend, early mornings, which I actually love, at the Open Championship. Yeah, so I went over to Scotland after college, Big Cat, and actually caddied at St. Andrews for a summer. That was like my job out of college. And I went and played Royal Troon, didn't know much about it. And I walked away and said to myself, my dad was there with me, and I said, this is my favorite Lynx course that I've played to this point. So...

I love it. This is its 10th Open Championship. It's hosted first since 2016. Had both some awesome winners and some random winners. Todd Hamilton, of course, beating Ernie Els there back in the day. I think that was in 2004. But this is a pretty demanding driving golf course for an Open. You know, you go to places like St. Andrews and you can kind of hit it all over the place, even with fescue up.

This is a place where if you start missing fairways, you can find yourself in the gorse. I mean, some of these corridors are really, really tight, and they've done a good job of kind of tightening those up for this Open Championship. So I love it. You see a lot of water when you play this golf course, probably as much ocean as you'll see playing any of the open road of golf courses. And like I said, I mean, I get obsessed when they return to Royal Choon just because it's one of my favorite personal golf courses over there.

So with the water, if this golf course is windy any day, is it become almost unplayable? Because I feel like that happens sometimes at the Open Championship where if the wind is really whipping, it's like these guys got no chance.

I don't think I'd go as far as to say unplayable. And the word I'm hearing from people over there is that this is a little bit of a greener golf course than some of the ones in the area. The RNA kind of making sure that with some of the weather they're predicting later in the week, that the balls aren't going to roll off the greens. If you remember,

Guys, remember 2015, Brooks Koepka, when he was not Brooks Koepka, basically told the RNA, I'm not going to keep playing at St. Andrews because it was so windy. And this was like when he was just the European tour golfer, not kind of the stud that he is now. That, I think, is the fear for the RNA, is that if it gets super windy and there's that much exposed greens like you see at St. Andrews and you see at Troon, then maybe they'd have to pull people off the golf course. So I think that's part of the reason you're going to see

Yeah, please. I apologize. You root for the weather sometimes.

You root for the conditions. Yeah, Mother Nature is the top pick at this one. I think you could also root for the course, PFT. I think this is a place where they've condensed the golf courses on the road over there, so you only see six or seven courses, really. So I think it's a chance to kind of root for your all-star team, right? I mean, you get Rural Troon, you get St. Andrews. They occasionally will pop over to Ireland, but for the most part, there are six or seven places that we know and we love, so you can root for both Mother Nature and the golf course.

Yeah, I like that. So, yeah, it's going to be very interesting. We've already got some drama to start the week off. Tiger and Monty are going at it. Colin Montgomery. What did Montgomery say? He said, like, maybe it's time for Tiger to retire. Talking about his recent play and then Tiger fired back and said, well, they let you play here for the rest of your life if you win.

Yeah, Montgomery was basically saying this is not the Tiger Woods that I grew up watching, that I grew up competing against. The fiery competitor, I think is the terminology he used about Tiger. And he was basically saying this isn't, you know, this is Roger Federer playing tennis at the age of 50, right? And Tiger fired back and said, I get a chance to play the Open until I'm 60 years old. That's basically the cutoff.

at the open Colin Montgomery does not get so Colin Montgomery never won a men's major championship, arguably the greatest player in golf history, not to win a men's major. So yeah, tiger firing back, listen, tiger's never going to dig deep into who you are, but he's going to lay lines out like that. Like you remember the Stephen Ames thing, his answer about the talk from Ames back in the match play days, he just simply said nine and eight is what she, what he beat him at. I think this is kind of typical tiger style.

In terms of the response, I'll say this. I think it's good for Tiger. I think somebody taking a shot at this guy. You know, you guys follow golf, you know, around the major championships. I know you guys follow Tiger Woods. When's the last time somebody took a shot at Tiger? It rarely happens if ever. So if he needs bulletin board material or some reason to get a little bit more fired up and go out there and play well, maybe this helps him this week. Maybe maybe even make the cut.

That's right. More bulletin board. He hasn't shot a round in the 60s since Riviera last year, so that's about 18 months ago. So, yeah, anything that can maybe help him go out there and play a decent round of golf would be helpful. Okay, so the other story, Rory coming off of maybe the worst loss you could have as a golfer. Yeah.

he peeled out of the, uh, driveway, uh, after the, everybody was safe. Everybody was safe. He almost hit several people. Yeah. He, he, he, he didn't talk to the media. He released a statement afterwards. So he's talking to the media this week. I saw that also there was a funny story that tiger texted him two days after gave him a couple of days, but Rory had changed his number. So he ghosted tiger, uh,

But where do you think Rory is at mentally? Can he win this? He feels like the guy, especially in the last few years, where he has been so close so many times and played such great golf, and he has nothing to show for it.

I think he can absolutely win in any major championship. I think it's so easy for golf people to go, I like Rory this week. Well, you like Rory at every major. He finishes in the top 10 every single time. There's a big difference, obviously, in finishing in the top 10 and winning. I think for Rory, he can look back at 2011, you know, that complete, you know, like second nine at Augusta National, you know, basically debacle from Rory McIlroy. He started hitting balls left and making huge numbers.

and loses the Masters. He won the next major championship after that by eight shots, and that has been something that Rory has been great throughout his career is that kind of bounce back ability. So in that regard, yes, I think it could be a good week for Rory. I don't see this being a great place for him. I just, I feel like the unpredictability of Lynx golf, the weather expected with

the high winds. I'll give you guys this. I know you guys are an NFL podcast for the most part. The Masters is a Super Bowl. The PGA Championship is opening week of the NFL. Everybody gets excited, but it's not the most important part of the season. I feel like the U.S. Open is kind of divisional championship weekend where everybody that makes it to that point has a chance to win, but it's going to be very, very tough

to do so. The open is a snow game. There's just so much unpredictability involved in a snow game. Maybe you can throw the ball. Maybe you got to run it. You don't know if you can depend on your kicker at all. That's what I look at here. And you've got to go back to 2010 with Rory, the opening round of St. Andrews, he shoots 63 and should have shot 62. The weather picks up, the wind starts blowing. He shoots 80 the second round. There's just...

So much unpredictability going into this week and what we should expect from Rory. He played fine last week. I just don't see him as a winner at Royal Troon considering the golf course and kind of the weather and what we expect to see there. I love that you just mansplained golf to us in football terms, but that was the perfect analogy. I get it now. Yeah, like you don't know if there's so much snow that it's going to be really good for the offense or there's just a little bit of snow, so it's just going to be a mucky game altogether. I like that.

Yeah, it was an aha moment for me. I was like, oh, shit, that makes sense. So if we're to pull on that thread a little bit and extrapolate it, LaShawn McCoy was like the greatest running back ever, the greatest snow game play ever. Who is the LaShawn McCoy of golf? Who can play the best in the worst conditions?

I think Brooks would be my answer to this. I feel like Brooks is the kind of guy that if it's windy, if it's nasty, if it's fine, obviously he's played well on golf courses with no wind at all. I feel like Brooks is one of those guys kind of like Jack Nicklaus back in the day. Sorry, Jack Nicklaus.

right how do you say it my bad sorry the the famous golfer but you know you think back to the way jack kind of approached major championships you said anybody that was a complainant of the u.s open i knew i could beat i feel like brooks is very similar in that vein where he goes into these weeks going i hope it blows i hope it's nasty and if it's not that's fine too i can still shoot 65 yeah yeah can you uh can you do a comparison for bryson dechambeau what nfl player would he be

I mean, maybe Aaron Rodgers. Maybe that's the comp for Bryson where you either love him or you don't like him at all. I mean, I know Big Cat has had an interesting relationship with Aaron over the years. I mean, Aaron Rodgers, you know, the one Super Bowl, right? And I mean, if that's his legacy, that'll be a very interesting thing to follow up. I mean, for Bryson...

I think the biggest difference for me is Bryson's ability to play these types of golf courses. You think about the way he played Piners. He's not winning at Piners three years ago, but he's changed his game and he's kind of opened his mind up to playing different types of golf when it asks. The one thing about this golf course is this is the most demanding driving golf course ever.

that you'll see all year long in terms of major championship golf. And Bryson can get a bit squirrely with the driver. We know he hits it forever. He doesn't always hit a ton of fairways. So that'll be kind of the thing I pay attention to. Is Bryson willing to hit the driving iron or the long iron off a lot of these tees like so many of the other players? Or is he going to try to bang driver like we saw at Pinehurst all over the place?

So this golf course, correct me if I'm wrong, but I've been reading about who to bet on and who has a good chance, and the name Colin Morikawa comes up a lot because this golf course doesn't penalize guys who can't hit it a million miles.

miles down the course. So speaking about Rory, his biggest strength is a little bit neutralized. Is that fair to say? And is it a golf course that guys who don't hit it the distance that Rory or Bryson hit it are going to have just as good of a chance to win?

Yeah, the PGA Championship and the U.S. Open have kind of become, and even, I mean, even Augusta National for that matter. I mean, you want to be able to hit the ball as far as humanly possible. That gives you the best edge. I got a great Justin Ray stat for you on that big cat, Justin Ray on Twitter, who has all the great stats and does an amazing job. He said since 2014, 55% of the Masters winners, PGA winners, and U.S. Open winners have ranked in the top 10 that week in driving distance. None of the last eight Open champion winners have done so. To your point,

You don't have to bang the golf ball to do well here. You look at Brian Harmon a year ago, not a long hitter of the golf ball. He contends this remains the random major championship. This is the one where you can be older. You don't have to be the young dude. You don't have to be the young stud. You can be an older player. We've seen a lot of randomness across the board over the last 20 years.

in terms of winners at Open Championships. So, yeah, I think for Colin Murakawa, you heard him talk after the Masters. You know, he goes, I'm hitting five iron when Scotty Scheffler's hitting eight iron. That's not so much the case at an Open. He can get around in similar fashion as somebody like Scotty or Rory. It's a thinking man's tournament.

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's a thinking man's tournament. I think it's an old guy's tournament as well. I think this is the place where you can still see someone in their 40s or maybe even in their 50s compete, contend, and potentially win. What about Scotty Shuffler? He's mentally kind of like a 55-year-old. He kind of looks like a 55-year-old as well. Yes, he does. I mean, I love Scotty everywhere. This is the one major he hadn't quite figured out yet. But I'll say this about Scotty. He's had an unbelievable year. We talk about his wins. Obviously, he wins the second time.

at Augusta National, if he goes through this season like he did last year without another of the majors, I think it'll be slightly glaring because when you talk about Scottie, you're talking about one of the greatest of this generation, if not the greatest of this generation. He's only, quote-unquote, only won the Masters, right? So for him to go through these U.S. Opens and PGAs and be close and not win, I think this is as important a week as it is to Rory McIlroy as it is for Scottie Scheffler in that regard because if he doesn't win this, do we look at the season as,

A great year where he only won one major championship. If he wins this, you're talking about one of the great seasons we've seen over the last 25 years. One of the great seasons over the last 40 years in the non-Tiger division. Yeah, and what about our dear friend Max Homa? Is this a tournament that can shape up for Max's game? Tell us that Max has a chance.

Max, Max absolutely has a chance at an open. I just feel like with the way he can drive the golf ball, he hadn't played great golf as of late, but I feel like Max is one of those guys that, like I said about Brooks, he's one of those dudes that can kind of lean into nasty conditions. Winds are up. I'm not going to let it affect me like some of the other guys that are maybe weaker minded out on the tour. Okay. I like that a lot. I like that very much. And yeah, I think, listen, we're all, we're all rooting for Max here.

It feels like the last couple of tournaments he hasn't been at the top of his game. Is that fair to say? Yeah, I think over the last, I think he'd be the first to say over the last five, six months, really since the Masters, he hadn't played his greatest golf. He didn't play great at the Scottish last week, but the Open last year was really important for Max. So maybe you'll get some good vibes from the way he played at the Open last year and go out there and put together something like we saw at Augusta.

Okay, so what about long shots or even any picks? Because I will probably bet these. I got so many for you. By the way, Big Cat, I wanted to ask you this question because we were talking about snow games earlier. I think I've never won a bet betting on the weather.

like betting the under in snow games or rainy games. How are you in terms of looking at the forecast and then making your bet on that? Snow games are my favorite because everyone, like, thinks, oh, this is going to be an under, and they're snowvers for a reason because –

it's so hard for the defense to get off and to be able to, like when the offense knows where they're going and the defense is trying to figure it out and they're sliding everywhere, that LaShawn McCoy game, that had like a million points. So yeah, whenever there's a snow game, wait till the last minute

And then hit the over because it always comes down. Everyone bets the under. And then you just bet the over right before kickoff, and it's usually a good bet. It's got to be a good amount of snow, though. It can't be just like a light dusting. It has to be real snow. Like you need to be using the plow, not the shovel. Yes, right. That's kind of the deal.

I like that. I got some names that I like this week, and then I got a couple sleepers for you guys. I like Shane Lowry this week, top 20 in his last two major championships. Been very, very consistent this year. Seems to get good vibes, and also he's 16th on tour this season in driving accuracy, so hits a whole bunch of fairways. Already won an Open Championship.

I like Corey Connors this week a little bit. He's played incredibly consistent golf. I think he's made 26 straight cuts. Just feels like one of those guys. The Open Championship doesn't demand a ton when you get on the greens. That's the part of Corey Connors' game that maybe he isn't as good as maybe a Scotty Scheffler or a Rory McIlroy, but he is an incredible ball striker, so I like Corey.

I like Aaron Rye a lot, the 29-year-old Englishman. This is just his seventh major championship. He's played incredible golf as of late. I think he's finished in the top seven in his last three starts, and he's played well in the majors this year. So those are my sleepers. I got my pick. Do you want the guy I think is going to actually win this thing? Yeah.

I'm going to Adam Scott. He played well last week, so it's not as kind of like shocking of a pick. He's 44 years old, finishing the top 10, hasn't finished in the top 10 in a major since 2019. But I feel like he's one of those guys. It's Adam Scott and Sergio Garcia that shouldn't end their career with one major title.

And so I feel like Adam is playing well. He's talked a lot this year about prepping his game around the major championships. Still feels like he has a chance to win one. And you go back to 2012, he came so close, made bogey on his last four holes to lose to Ernie Els by one. I think Adam's going to be a factor this week.

Okay. And you used a word earlier in this interview. I know what it means, but I don't think Big Cat does. So if you could explain it to Big Cat. Gorse. Yeah. Yeah, I'm an idiot. I have no idea what a gorse is. I know exactly what it is. I thought it was a type of duck. I know exactly what it is, but I just don't want to say it. Yeah. I was hoping that you would tell him. Please tell me.

Some would say it's a horse that kind of hangs out around Royal Troon, but it's the big green bushes with the stickers inside. You can't go in there. You can't search for a golf ball, but it is nasty, gnarly. And if you hit it in there, it's basically like you hit a ball out of bounds. So that's the no zone. When I was caddying at St. Andrews, if a player hit it in there and asked me to look for it, I would just kind of like walk slowly away from the player until I couldn't hear him.

So if it goes into the gorse, there's a tournament official that comes out and says you can't even look for your ball in here. I mean, you can look for it, but legitimately the needles, and somebody from the UK is probably going to correct me on this, but I've heard, and this might be like the caddy thing, we used to do this in Scottsdale a lot when people come out to play, I worked at True North, and we'd always tell them it was rattlesnake season just simply to keep them going, even if it wasn't rattlesnake season so they wouldn't go out and spend 20 minutes searching for a golf ball. I heard that there are bacteria

on the end of like the sticky parts of gorse bushes. So not only do you get pricked and it hurts, but it also gets infected quickly. Again, that might just be a catty tale, but that was what I was told back when I went over and looped it. I like that. I like that. Don't touch that. Yeah, they should pull up like a blue injury tent.

It's what we tell our children That's basically a lie all the time It's like the children stuff Oh I had that happen to me We were on vacation July 4th week And my kids picked some berries And I was like do not eat those berries And then my wife was like no they can eat those Those are like blueberries And I was like oh shit

But then you have to explain for every berry now. Yeah, I was like, no, no, don't eat random berries. Just say the gorse is hot lava. You can't touch it. Yeah, right. Just say no to everything your children's asking, and then you can go back from there is what I've basically learned in my young run of being a parent. Yes. All right, I got one last question. It's a Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com, promo code TAKE.

How are the pop bunkers? That's my favorite part of the Open Championship. What would you rank the pop bunkers at Royal Troon versus some of the other courses they play the Open Championship at? I mean, some of the best pop bunkers. Great pop bunkers all across the fairway, around the holes. There's a hole you're going to see a lot this week called the postage stamp. Very, very short par three. I think it's the shortest par three they play on the open road. 123 yards, tiny green holes.

ton of pop bunkers big cats so if you don't hit your wedge on the green uh you're going to be kind of scrambling to make uh to make four by the way my dad only time he played rule of true and made birdie on on the postage stamp but he basically wanted to walk off the golf course so shout out to to monty b on on the great shot into there should have that's awesome yeah that's a big moment walk off after eight yeah is is wait monty b is is bacon not your stage name

No, real name. Real name. Wow. So your dad's name is Montgomery Bacon? It wasn't Montgomery. It's just Monty. By the way, Monty Bruce Bacon. So very old school in terms of the one-two punches there. MBB. Bacon's the way to go. I mean, Big Cat's your name, right? Yeah, that's my given name. That's crazy. I mean, that's awesome. Powerful name. Was it one of those names that people made fun of when you were a little kid? Yeah.

But then you realize like this rocks. Yeah. Because no one's going to forget your name. When you're five to 13, it stunk. And then I've kind of post 13. People thought it was pretty cool. Yeah, that is a very cool name. Wake up with your friends at like 7 a.m. Hit a joint. It's waking bacon time. Yeah. You ever do that? I mean, I may have done that before. How hard is it not to do like every show that you've ever done trying to work bacon into the name?

well I mean I get a lot of people you know the weirdest thing question I get big cat on a kind of a weekly basis is if you give somebody your name they ask you how to spell it yeah I'll always say how do you not spell it like there's only one way to spell bacon right yeah but yeah I don't know if I always squeeze it in interviews but I might start I mean I think that might could that propel me to another planet you

thing yeah yeah bacon and fried eggs the golf podcast eggs and bacon yeah yeah i think i think there's something to work with here so wait what going back to the postage stamp why is it called the postage stamp i think because it's the green so small these are the smallest greens on the open rota and the postage stamp is tiny tiny tiny so again like it's a wedge i mean it's

Kind of one of those hit a good shot or you're going to make four. And we've seen guys make holes in one there. We've seen great shots. But you can make a huge number on it if you don't hit a great shot. And the wind on Thursday, it's supposed to be very windy on Thursday. The wind's kind of coming in from a different direction. So I think it's going to be in the face on the postage stamp. So you might see eight iron, seven iron from these players from 120. Oh, wow. Interesting. So one last question for you. There's a Swedish golfer, Eberg.

And he seems to be always kind of hovering around the top of the leaderboard, at least recently at some of the majors. From everybody that I've talked to, they say that physically he's one of the best golfers in the world, Barton. Total stud, yep. So is this a course that sets up perfectly for his game, or is this one where it's like, okay, he needs more experience, the physical tools don't necessarily translate over?

I mean, it would be to me, and I don't want to like get above my skis here with Ludwig because he is so young and he hadn't played a lot of these things, but it would kind of be like asking, does this basketball court work for Steph Curry, like shooting wise? I mean, all of these, the dude hits it a mile. He hits it incredibly straight. He's an

Awesome iron player. Really, the only thing he's got to figure out is how to kind of close these things out. He struggled in final rounds, but absolutely. Like this golf course, he could play well. He's going to hit driver a lot when a lot of guys won't because he hits it so straight. I feel like he's one of those dudes that is going to play well at open, play well at Augusta, play well at U.S. Opens. Like he's kind of the next it dude, in my opinion.

Okay. Okay. All right. Love it. Well, Shane, thank you so much. The finale for the major championships, always kind of bittersweet. Feels like I know there's more golf to play, but it does feel like this is kind of the end. But we're excited to watch, and we appreciate all your insight. 260 days come Sunday night until the next men's major round. That's the first round of the Masters. So, yes, it is a long, long break. Thanks, boys. Always appreciate the time. All right. Thanks, Shane.

Okay, we'll wrap up with Guys on Chicks. Great interview with Derek Carr. Great guy. We're Derek Carr fans now. Great guy. You can't... It's like the Kirk Cousins interview. Yeah. He's such a nice guy that you can't help but root for him. And he addressed the mascara allegations. He did, which is good to hear. Yeah. All right, Guys on Chicks. Hank.

My husband claims that to be considered athletic, you have to be able to play multiple team sports. In his mind, the best athletes of all time are people like Danny Ainge and Deion Sanders because they excel in multiple sports. According to his logic, people like Michael Phelps and Usain Bolt are not necessarily athletic unless they can play multiple sports. Yeah, Michael Phelps is water merchant. I disagree. This argument started after he claimed that even though I was a nationally ranked figure skater, I'm not athletic because I didn't play sports like soccer, lacrosse, etc. Should he be admitted to a mental hospital or am I in the wrong here? Um...

I think he has a fair point, which is you can specialize in certain things, but to get to the top of that field... You have to be athletic to be a fucking figure skater, though. His idea is that Michael Phelps is not athletic? I think he's just trying to, you know...

Put his wife down, I guess. Yeah. Also saying Usain Bolt is an athletic is a wilder take, I think, than saying Michael Phelps isn't. The Olympics are just basically for not ball sports. Yeah. Usain Bolt is the fastest human being that's ever existed on planet Earth. He's the epitome athletic. Yeah. And so is Michael Phelps. Michael Phelps. But take away the water. What do you got? True. Probably a guy who would have been like an awesome rower. Tight end. I guess that's the water. Awesome water. Yeah.

Yeah, Michael Phelps bum. Yeah. Just some random pothead. Happened to find a pool when he was young. Sucks. Come on the pod, Michael. Thought it was a gravity bong. Yeah. My girlfriend has paid for a wedding venue for a wedding on May 31st and has started buying everything for it. The kicker is we just went ring shopping and I haven't proposed yet. Do you think this is strange? Yeah. Wait, so you're engaged but not engaged. She got you engaged by renting a venue. Yeah.

But those things fill up. So she acted fast. But yeah, that's... I'd be worried. I'd be a little worried. That feels also like after you get married, she's going to name your children before you're pregnant kind of thing. Oh, she's already got them. Weird. Yeah. That is a weird thing to do. There's a notebook somewhere in your house with your signature with your boyfriend's last name written in. My third child went...

Almost 72 hours without a name. We were just like, we don't know. Mail.

Like, all right, we'll figure it out. Like, we were tossing around different names. And then finally, when we had to leave the hospital, they're like, you need a name to leave the hospital. So I'm curious, just from her perspective, do you feel like a little bit of a psycho getting a wedding venue rented out without being engaged? Yeah, you got to be. This has got to be the girl that's like, all her friends are already married. Yeah. Like, she's on. Yeah, she's trying to. Yeah.

Yeah, no, she's already got the... She's already probably got a house picked out, where the baby room's going to be, everything. Yeah. She's got her vision board. You've got to propose to him, and he just hasn't said yes yet. Yeah. All right, last one. We don't want you to break up. At what point do you... Watch out. Watch out. At what point do you start thinking to yourself, like...

He hasn't asked me yet. Oh, she's definitely. Also, who goes ring shopping? Actually, no, maybe. Do guys and girls go ring shopping together?

No, usually it's like best friend. Yeah, we just went ring shopping. But also PFT, I think she... I thought that's the whole point. She might also be the type of girl that just doesn't care that he's not asked. Like, we're doing this no matter what. Whether you ask or not. Yeah. We're getting married. There's going to be some tough questions you'll have to answer come Thanksgiving. Yes. Regardless of whose house you go to. Yes. Our last one. My boyfriend plays in beer league hockey and we first started dating. I went to everyone, but lately with life stuff, I haven't gone much. The last...

fee I went to was the only the last fee last time I guess I'm assuming it's the last time last time I went

Last game I went to, I was the only wife girlfriend there and worried that maybe I shouldn't go anymore because I didn't want to intrude on a guy's thing. I guess my question is, do guys like it when their girlfriends go to stuff like that for them? Does it make a difference if they're not? No. I feel like when I ask my boyfriend, he doesn't want to make me feel bad about going, but I also don't want to intrude on guy time. It's the last few times I was the only girlfriend there. No.

Yeah, and... Do not go. And also, when you're the only woman in the stands, what do you think his teammates are talking about? Yeah, do not go. I don't... Don't go to your boyfriend's intramural games.

Guys want to feel athletic. They don't want to think about how their girlfriend's looking at them and being like, you are not athletic. And they also want to be able to have the freedom of always being like, do you want to grab a beer after? Yes. And they want to be able to come home whenever they're done with that beer and tell you how great they played and lied to you. And if you were there, then they can't do that. And they also want to say, hey, I'm grabbing a quick beer with the team after I'll be home in a little bit and have six beers and be home in a lot of bit.

Yeah, he wants the freedom to go on like a road trip with his beer league team and sleep like six people in a one bed hotel room, get hammered until like five o'clock in the morning, smoke cigarettes and not have you be like, hey, when are you coming home? Credit to you, though, because you at least had the awareness. Yeah. Feels like you were halfway there. Yeah. Step one. Yeah. Okay. Good show, boys. Been on a heater. Heater. Let's do numbers. 30. 8.

56. This is going to be 20. Today's going to be 20. No, it's not. Today's going to be 20. I'm picking number three. I'm picking 20. Shane Pug? 29. How about just 20? 99. BFT, did you pick? I picked eight. How about 20? Three, three, three. 55. Oh, my God. That would have been awesome. Love you guys. We're talking about CSA. Today's a hot day to mine.

God damn!