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Friday Winners With Stanford Steve, Recapping Day 1 Of March Madness, Bonus Mt Rushmore Of March Madness Things + Fyre Fest Of The Week Including Possible Severance Spoilers (We Haven't Seen The Finale Yet)

2025/3/21
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Recap of the first day of March Madness, focusing on McNeese State's upset win over Clemson, Drake's victory over Missouri, and Arkansas's strong performance against Kansas. The discussion also touches upon the SEC's performance and the end of Hunter Dickinson's college career.
  • McNeese State upsets Clemson
  • Drake upsets Missouri
  • Arkansas defeats Kansas
  • SEC underperforms
  • End of Hunter Dickinson's college career

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But some madness. McNeese madness. McNeese madness. Will Wade madness. We also have our good friend Stanford Steve on to talk exclusively Friday picks. So we're breaking down the whole board. If you got your teeth kicked in on Thursday, you can listen to this. Stanford Steve's a lot smarter than us. We got some picks for Friday. We do a bonus Mount Rushmore out of Mount Rushmore season, but we did a Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore. Great Mount Rushmore.

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And we've got madness. McNeese madness. And the SEC is dead. Yeah. The SEC. Not really, but really. The Big Ten, congratulations. Big Ten and Big East had a nice day. We had not the craziest first day of madness, but McNeese State, I think, leads the storyboard because what a day for Will Wade. He's announced as the new coach of NC State that...

then goes out and gives us a classic 12-5 upset where I know it looks like a two-point game, but they were dominating Clemson for the majority of the game. Clemson couldn't make a shot in the first half. It was ugly. Towards the end, they started to pour it in. It all came in kind of all of a sudden, so the two points looks a lot closer than it was. But yeah, Will Wade...

Clemson alum beating his alma mater, then going to NC State. And new rival. And new rival. Yeah. And did it the right way because we've seen it the wrong way and a million times where coaches will say, I'm not talking to them. I don't know what you're talking about. I'm focused on my team. Will Wade said two days ago, yeah, I'm having conversations with NC State. Yeah, I heard some people that were upset about it. I think...

I think Will Wade probably told his students last year, like, hey, I'm going to come back for another year. I probably had some offers. I'm going to come back. I'm going to be talking to other schools. You guys want to transfer at the end of this year too, probably, if all goes well. If you win games in the tournament, you'll get to transfer to a better school, maybe get some NIL money. So I think Will Wade, in a stunning twist,

Everything that he was doing that was illegal back then is legal now. Yeah. And he's just being open and honest about it and telling the kids like, hey, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to leave. You're probably going to go look for some money, too. Let's win some games. Not only that, but with the new transfer portal rules, he's going to take a bunch of these guys with him. Yeah. So it's like, hey, I'm going to be open with you guys with me. I'd rather Will Wade be transparent about it. Yeah, it's awkward that he took a new job before his team even played in the tournament.

then Darren DeVries who went from West Virginia to Indiana in the Bahamas in December and had his son sit out the year for a medical red shirt the game is the game so it's not like I'm saying oh man he did something so wrong West Virginia definitely West Virginia is having a bad week but

I'd rather have the Will Wade where you're just up front about it and saying, yeah, I'm talking to NC State. Oh, yep, I got a new job. Yeah, I'm totally cool with that. And I'm also sure that Will Wade told the administration, I am going to be listening to phone calls if they come. Right, right. All right, so game. So McNeese was the big upset, so to speak. They were seven and a half point underdogs. And they were the 12-5 matchup. The other big one was Drake. Finally, Drake...

Has staved off the meltdown that we are all accustomed to with Drake in the tournament where they start a game. They're up big and then they slowly melt down. They tried to do it. It was like they were up all game and it was, I think, a two-point game with about five minutes left. But they beat Mizzou, which was kind of a stunning upset because the SEC has been the big bad SEC. Has been the talk of college basketball this year. And it was that one. And...

Cal and the boys, Arkansas. Yeah. Ending Hunter Dickinson's career. And they look good. Yeah. Arkansas looked real good. They were getting boards. They were creating a lot of turnovers. So many turnovers for Kansas. It was crazy. Like Kansas felt like they were going to come start knocking at the door, and then they just couldn't get the ball down the court. Yeah. It was very strange. And I think that Arkansas, the way that they're built, we can talk about St. John's, but not only are we going to get Cal Patino like America wanted in the second round-

But I think that those two schools can give each other a really good game. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. And it was an interesting game because Cal was basically shocked by Kansas being like, hey, we're going to zone you in the second half. And there was that stretch where Arkansas just could not score. And Kansas even took the lead with a couple minutes left. But we all wanted this game. And we're going to get this game. I have a question for you, Big Cat. Yeah. Is Bill Self on the hot seat?

I don't know if he's on the hot seat. This was probably the most disappointing. I mean, I would imagine Bill Self is going to do a press conference and be like, I did a bad job coaching, but I also hated the fuck out of this team. Yeah. Because this was Kansas all year. They were up and down. They were supposed to be great. They struggled at times. They had some bad losses. And I think most Kansas fans saw this coming in the fact that they just weren't built –

for a long run. Again, also, it's the end of Hunter Dickinson's career. Perry Ellis still has a COVID year, though. He can come back. He does. Here's a stat for you. Kansas had won 19 of 22 conference titles before Hunter Dickinson transferred to KU. In his two years there, the Jayhawks finished fifth and sixth, respectively. Moreover, they won one NCAA tournament game in this time there. Now...

It is a little different because the Big 12 expanded. Houston got added. Arizona got added. And Houston's really fucking good. Kansas, though. It is Kansas. That's not the best.

So he is, I think he's done. Yeah, he is done. I think so. I don't think that there's any sort of exploitable rule that they can do to bring him back. I don't know that they'd want him back. I think they're ready to move on from the Hunter Dickinson experiment. Yeah, I'd say so. Obviously, Bill Self not on the hot seat, but it's fun to have the conversation. The conversation is being had. People should have the conversation. Kansas also, they became the second AP preseason number one to lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament. You know who the other one was?

Who? Also Kansas in 2005 to Bucknell. That's tough. Yeah. I remember that game. Shit pumping. There was a bunch of them. UCLA shit pumped Utah State. That wasn't even close. It was close, actually, in the first half. I think it was a 25-23 game at one point.

And the final score was 72-47. That was not shocking, but it was just like I thought Utah State would be a little bit more live. It was just the guards for UCLA were so much bigger than the guards from Utah State. It looked like a high school team playing against them.

Purdue handled high point very easily. I tried to tell Hank to take the under. He didn't listen to me. Under vibes, though. St. John's kicked the shit out of Omaha. St. John's is so funny because St. John's, they did this in the Big East tournament, too, where they have to go down to wake up and then just start bullying someone.

Yeah, they were down. Omaha was up in the first half, and then St. John's was like, ah, we're St. John's and you're not. Yeah, right off the bat, when they missed three-pointers, they really missed three-pointers. And I think they ended up shooting like a respectable percentage. I think it was probably in the mid-30s. So at the end of the day, you look at what they shot from three, and you're like, okay, that's a pretty good day shooting. But when they miss, they airball three-pointers.

Yeah, they ended up shooting 37.8%, which Rick Pitino would take that all day for St. John's and how they are not exactly a shooting team. The thing I love about St. John's is that on defense...

If a team is working the ball around, pump faking, getting guys to leave their feet, they pass it to the open guy. St. John's seems to have an unlimited amount of dudes on the floor running at the face. Yeah. Like just in their rotation is so good on defense. They just keep cycling. There's always somebody running at your face. If you think you're about to take an open shot, you're not. And if you look at the offensive rebounds, I believe they lost the offensive rebounding battle. But...

they kick the shit out of Omaha in second chance points. Yeah. And that's because Omaha, they would get an offensive rebound occasionally and then just get swatted into oblivion in the lane. Yeah. The St. John's has, I mean, the way they play, they play Patino defense where everyone's hands are always active. Every ball gets tipped. You know, nothing is easy. Just, just swinging the ball feels hard.

And yeah, St. John's was definitely impressive in the second half. Houston squished SIU Edwardsville. Shout out to SIU Edwardsville. Remember, we learned the big show. Yep, that's right. His right for university. Yeah, so that's huge. Alabama struggled a little bit. Auburn, sorry, struggled a little bit with Alabama State, but ended up winning pretty easily.

10 FC. I was, I was not offered in the second half. I was not super impressed with Auburn today. No, I, they've had, they've had weird vibes. I mean, they finished the season losing three out of four and they were the number one overall seed. And yeah, this, it will be so like today, Alabama state, they, they played so much harder than Auburn. Yeah. They, they were beating them to loose balls. They were picking up every 50, 50 thing. Auburn didn't look like they had a fire lit under their ass before the game. Maybe Bruce Pearl will be able to start it, but,

And they ended up winning by a good amount. It wasn't close at the end, but I wasn't super impressed by it. My Badgers handled business, even though the committee tried to fuck us with the early tip time and the altitude. Thanks for coming out, Montana. That was not...

That wasn't very competitive. Yeah. I don't think you guys even played your best game. No. Klezmit was not good, and he's got to be good against BYU on Saturday. I'm trying to think. Are they out? Yeah. Give them to us. Give them to us. Because I was about to say. What time do you think? The games today, there weren't super memorable moments. This happens. You'll have a Thursday or Friday that's not like, oh, my God, that was the craziest day ever. But then you look at Saturday, and you're like, holy shit, it's loaded.

Give it to us. 12-10, McNeese versus Purdue. Okay. 2-40, Arkansas versus St. John's. 5-15, Michigan versus Texas A&M. 6-10, Drake versus Texas Tech. 7-10, Creighton versus Auburn. 7-45.

BYU versus Wisconsin. Okay, I like that. Are these Eastern Standard Time? These are all Eastern Standard Time. 840, Gonzaga, Houston. 940, UCLA, Tennessee. Pick out what happens if the game keeps going to overtime and going to overtime and going to overtime and it gets into Sunday. Can BYU play? 645. We should try to extend it. Yeah. Pull a fire alarm. That would be a...

A long game. Yeah. Really long game. Pull a fire alarm. I like having a Nike. I was worried that I didn't think they were going to do it because it's out. You know, it's mountain time, but I was worried they were going to do like the second game. Need some rest. Get some rest. It's going to be a tough game. BYU is good. They fucking fill it up from three. It's basically going to be the scariest game in terms of

Just any team can go on a run at any time with threes. And we missed a fun fact. We missed a fun fact about BYU. No, Max missed a fun fact. Max missed a fun fact by BYU. Maxwell missed a fun fact. Because I heard that on the radio yesterday, and I was like, that's a big mistake on our part. How am I supposed to look up every fact about every tournament? This is maybe the coolest fact in the tournament. I looked up BYU fun facts. What was your BYU fun fact? Uh...

Was it as fun as this one? No. No. I think it was just a day. And this is the funnest fact ever? Yeah. It's like $7 million on a player coming in next year. That is fun. Oh, that is fun. What was the fun fact that you missed? Probably money from the tater tots. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? Is it tater tots? No, you say what the fact is. You have BYU. You say it. Richie Saunders.

His great-grandfather invented tater tots. That's big time. Awesome. That's a sick fact. That's quite a legacy. That's a guy who, yeah, should have like a museum after him. And did we talk about Jeff Sprouse? Did we already talk about Jeff Sprouse? No, but you should probably apologize to Jeff Sprouse. Yeah, Jeff Sprouse. What's a fun fact? I said one player. He did best player, worst player. I did best player, worst player for like six of the teams, and then I only said one of the worst players, and it was Jeff Sprouse who went six of 12 from three in the play-in game. Yeah.

He had 18. Yeah, he was incredible. And we think that Jeff Sprouse probably listens to the show. He probably heard that. Probably. Someone from the Sprouse family. Someone told it. Yeah. I got a reply from a Sprouse saying, admit that you don't know ball and only looked at the box scores. And I was like, I admitted that as I said. I think you said it. Yeah, you did say that. Not even the box score, just the season-long stats. Yeah, I pulled up the ESPN...

like stat line for every player. And I was like, this guy's number, these guys numbers stink. Yeah. Uh, yeah. All right. So apologies to Jeff Sprouse. We should also mention Texas. The, the, the reminder today was, uh, anytime everyone in the world is talking about one team, just go the other way. Cause I feel like that happened with two, two specific cases, Yale, everyone loved Yale, Texas A&M turns out still very good. Wade Taylor, very good. Uh,

And then who was the other? Oh, Michigan. VCU, BYU. Oh, yeah. VCU, BYU was everyone was like VCU, VCU, VCU. And you see San Diego too. Yeah, but they covered it with three and a half. I don't know what. Yeah, it started at three and a half. I don't know what you see San Diego is doing with that last possession. You have 14 seconds. You're down three.

I would like to try to extend the game a little and go to the rack and try to maybe get fouled there. I don't know. Or a fadeaway three. It was a decent look, but it just... You have one shot. The play took so long to develop that you didn't give yourself an opportunity to get a rebound. You didn't give yourself an opportunity for them to get a rebound and foul. Right. Yeah. It's just the game ended. Yeah. Try to get that off. You actually... It could have been even worse, I think, because you could have...

Let Dusty May get enough time where he could then foul when you're on the floor and take away your opportunity to shoot a three. Yeah. And UC San Diego deserves credit. I mean, Michigan deserves credit for holding on and making big plays down the stretch. But UC San Diego, like they were dead in the water in the first half and they came out in the second half of that first five minutes went on that run. That was a very good. That was some good tournament action.

that felt fun to watch. Yeah, there was a lot of foul trouble in that game. That's the only thing. It was not the best. Tate Jones fouled out with like five minutes left. That was great. All right, what other? Did we miss anyone else? Georgia. Georgia. Georgia Gonzaga. Georgia didn't know how to play basketball. Does Georgia have a basketball team? They don't know how to play basketball. It continues for another year.

I don't think I've ever seen for the start of a game. Now Gonzaga deserves a lot of credit. Gonzaga is under or over underseeded as an eight seed. I think they, they are a lot better than an eight seed. So they're not your typical eight seed that game started. And, uh,

Georgia just didn't know how to dribble, pass, shoot, anything. Yeah. They're falling on all over themselves. Georgia basketball. Also out of control when they try to drive. Yeah. There was also another. Was there another Georgia incident? Football? Two. Two. What happened? One guy drove into a house. Okay. Okay. Are you talking about a garage? Was it his house? No. Oh. And then the second one, which I think was the first one, was just a.

speeding ticket, but I can look it up. It's funny because when March Madness is happening, other stories just don't happen because I also, it was like a bingo card. We had another two Georgia driving incidents for the football program.

And then we had a very weird story from Michigan. Yeah, Michigan, some sort of spying. The former offensive coordinator. Matt Weiss. Yeah. So I have it right here. According to the indictment between approximately 2015 and January 2023, Weiss gained unauthorized access to student-athlete databases of more than 100 colleges and universities that were maintained by a third-party vendor. After gaining access to these databases, Weiss downloaded the personally identifiable information database

and medical data of more than 150,000 athletes. Using the information that he obtained from the student athlete databases,

And his own internet research, Weiss was able to obtain access to the social media email and or cloud storage accounts of more than 2,000 target athletes. Weiss also illegally obtained access to social media email and cloud storage accounts of more than 1,300 additional students and or alumni from universities across the country. That's creepy. That's crazy. He sounds like he's an anonymous, like an actual hacker. That's nuts. Can you blame Connor Stallions for this?

You can try. But this guy, not so much. So I got it right here. Georgia wide receiver Nitro Tuggle, which... I mean, that guy... He should be allowed to speed. You can't name him that. Yeah. He's going to speed. He got charged. He's going to speed or he's going to be an American gladiator. One or the other. Arrested on charges of reckless driving and speeding in Athens. And then on Monday...

When you recruit Nitro and you're at Georgia. And he's a wide receiver. You have to have several conversations. Nitro, you're going to be under a microscope because your name is Nitro and also you play football for me. You need to give him a golf cart that goes 20 miles an hour tops. Or just get him a driver. Yeah. We're going to get ahead of this problem, Nitro.

And then Georgia offensive lineman Marquise Easley reportedly crashed a car into an apartment complex Monday night, leading to a suspension today. All gas, no brakes. Interesting. I would assume if these guys are good at football, they'll be playing in September. What do you think they... Like, how...

After the 20th time it happens, do you think at any point they joke about it? Because that's what it seems like. They're like, all right, this is just our thing here. I don't think Kirby jokes about it. I think some of the guys on the staff definitely joke about it, being like, you got to be fucking shitting me. I do think you can point at Kirby Smart and be like, dude, you need to do a better job of making the local police in your pocket, like Urban Meyer did in Jacksonville. But these guys are crashing into apartment buildings.

Yeah, I mean, there's not much you can do there. The speeding one, yeah. The speeding one. You could put that under the... The cops got to be like, all right, speeding ticket. Yeah, but Georgia's in for the national title this year. But I think they've had... Yeah, and they've also had so many incidents where it's like, I think the police have to be like, we have to start reporting this. Yeah, and like... Like, we've covered up a lot, but when you're going like 140, like...

We got to report. Take their licenses. Yeah. When Nitro pulls into the first Nitro, he's like, Nitro should get a pass. Yeah, he should. When you're Kirby smart, you see Nitro pull up to the facility day one, probably in like a Dodge Hellcat. You have to be like, hey, Nitro, you're not driving. I'm sorry. You're just not. Yeah. Also, we got another story we had was T Higgins contract. The details. Mm hmm.

This is pretty smart by the Bengals, it seems like. So I'm reading from Florios broke it down. Of course he did. Florio's not watching basketball. He's breaking down contracts.

Nothing in 2025 is guaranteed. However, the $20 million roster bonus is earned five days after Higgins puts pen to paper. So I assume he's going to earn that. Like, that's actually a dangerous time to earn it right during March Madness. The only true full guarantee at signing bonus or signing is the $10 million 2026.

offseason roster bonus, the Bengals have as a practical matter, a year to year option. They can pay him 35.9 million for 2025. If he dresses for every game and earns a 2 million in per game roster bonuses, and they can move on before the 2026 base salary becomes fully guaranteed. It's not guaranteed for injury. So it's not even a two year contract. It's,

One year contract for a good amount of money. A lot of money. Yeah. Because the 10 million guaranteed 2026 roster bonus has offset language. They likely owe him nothing if they cut him after one year since he'd likely make more elsewhere. Yeah.

Yeah. I was wondering how they were able to, because they said that they were going to keep, obviously, T. Higgins. They're keeping Jamar Chase. They said they were going to try to keep Trey Hendrickson, too, if they can. I had no idea how any of that was going to work out. This is a fake contract. Well, he's getting a lot of money this year over what would have been the franchise tag. Correct. So he's getting a nice raise that's guaranteed for one. It's like he got a mega franchise tag. And I guess there's structure that if they want to keep him next year, they don't have to go back and do this all.

But essentially he got mega tagged. Yeah. He got mega tagged. That was interesting though. Yeah. Um,

What else do we have? Anything else from the sports world that we might have missed? Scotty Shuffler's master's dinner. Oh, yeah. It's pretty much the same as it was two years ago, right? He ran it back pretty much. Except he didn't do the tortilla soup because he told us on PMT that the soup was too spicy for some of the old timers that were there, and it made their tum-tums hurt. Yeah. So out of respect for them, he was like, okay, I won't give you diarrhea this year. Yeah. And he added a little homage to how he cut his finger.

Oh, what was it? Tortellini. Oh, yeah. The ravioli bites. So that's what he was making when he cut his finger. Yeah. So he added the ravioli bites. With meatball. Yeah. That's a nice touch. Yeah, that is. A little joke. I could see Scotty Scheffler playing some football at Georgia. Yeah. Yeah. What? Right up his alley.

Also, I know we did Mark Pope. 25 arrests, by the way, in two years. That's crazy. That's nuts. Got to lead the league. 23 wins. Mm-hmm.

Get those numbers up, Kirby. Not the arrest. And there's got to be so much stuff that gets swept under the rug. Oh, yeah. All I'll say is they have so many arrests at college. They make their way to the NFL. They play for the Eagles. They don't get in trouble because they got Big Dom. Big Dom. Making sure everyone stays high and tight. That would be very funny if Kirby Smart brought in Big Dom and be like, how do you do it? Yeah. He should. How do you do it?

Zero suspensions, at least in the NFL. There you go. I got to find that graph. Are you sure that's true? 100% true. Mark Pope, I know it was a little cringeworthy that we played his rap on Wednesday, but shout out Mark Pope. This is a pretty cool story. He's paying gas money to any Kentucky fans that drive to Milwaukee.

That's pretty cool. Yeah. So our friend Matt Jones posted proof of it. Someone from Mark Pope's office basically being like,

Like all you do is email and say you're coming, show that you have tickets and you're a Kentucky fan. And then they email you back. And they're like, as long as you can prove that no one's between the ninth and 12th grade, because that would technically be like a violation of recruitment. They'll Venmo you money, a flat gas rate. Good guy. Pretty awesome. I like Mark Pope. That's a cool thing to do. So Big Blue Nation should be showing up to Milwaukee. Love that. What do you got, Max?

Nothing. I just sent the graphic of zero suspension. Oh, yeah. Pretty happy. Did you make the graphic? No. Dove climbing. You've been suspended, though. From what? Well, you had to take the test. You had to take the test. Yeah. You had to take the test. Big Dom wasn't happy I took that test. And the time you didn't push the button. I didn't get suspended. Well, you got... If you don't push the button again, you get soul patched. You self-suspended. Did I self... Vacation? Vacation.

Yeah, I guess that. I'm so excited for more basketball tomorrow. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. It's the best. It's just like an entire day. I realized today that I was just sitting in the same spot for 12 hours, and it was awesome. I'm going to put on the old Apple Watch tomorrow, see how many steps I take. There you go. I'm guessing it's maybe double figures, maybe like 70 steps. It's also, this hit me at the beginning of the day,

It's crazy that when there's one game on,

You find yourself being like, where the fuck are all the games? I need all the games. It's boring. Yeah. I can't watch one game. I need four games going at the same exact time. There was a moment, though, when I think the first time there are three games on at once, it just blew my mind. Yeah. And I was like, this is so much for me to pay attention to right now. Also, maybe shout out to TBS, CBS, Turner, True TV, whoever else it is. They did kind of fix the scoreboard for a little bit.

I don't understand how it's still an issue. And when I'm saying this, I mean, if you're watching four games at once, uh,

half the time you see the scoreboard on one game and it will be ahead of the actual game you're watching. Yeah, my guess is they have some sort of a live feed plugged directly into the scores table. So like when the scoreboard at the arena changes, that gets fed into the other TV channel. Just pause it. Just pause that. Just fucking hit pause. I don't want to be spoiled. Like the beginning of the day. You have a problem with it. I don't have a problem because I can not look at the scores in the top. No.

The problem is if you know what's happening and your team's playing. Like when Wisconsin was playing, I had to look at the score to be like, like Montana would come down the court and be like, oh shit, are they about to hit a three? And I'd look because if I know it's there, I'm going to look. So that's why I can't stop myself.

You look at me, Max. Yeah, I noticed that was a thing. I noticed that was a thing earlier today, but I think we were watching it on YouTube TV. No, I think they did. I tweeted. I was pretty mean about it. I said I'd skull fuck all of them. And then it did look like they actually Jeff D. Lowe texted me. He said it looked like they paused it in real time. You could see it pause. So but then it kind of it was like laggy a couple places. Just figure it out. Don't let it spoil us.

If I know there's a spoiler in front of my face, I'm going to look at it. That's my problem. Also, what happened in Severance? No. Did you watch? Yep. You motherfucker. All right. So Firefest. So we're going to do our Mount Rushmore, and then we're going to do San Francisco, and then our Firefest. And there are Severance spoilers in the Firefest.

When I say that, none of us in this room have watched the finale. So there's no spoilers on the finale. It's just we talked about what could happen in the finale because we have not seen it. And we were talking about the fact that it's hard to watch Severance when there's all these games going on. So if you're a couple episodes behind, you could skip Firefest.

If you haven't watched the finale, you won't be spoiled at all. Yeah. Because you're at the finale. We have not watched it. So we literally cannot spoil it because we don't know. Yeah. And our guesses of what's going to happen probably will make you dumber. Yeah. And less likely to figure out what's going to happen. Oh, our theories are really stupid. But it's still fun talk. We don't really do a bunch of TV talk. We're all watching it. Miss Wong, brain of an adult. Yeah. That's a spoiler. She doesn't, though. We don't think so. I don't know.

I'm just doing it again. All right. Mount Rushmore.

Stanford Steve, Firefest. And then we'll see everyone on Monday to recap everything. Okay, before we get to Stanford Steve and our Mount Rushmore March Madness things, game time. Hank, can you pull up some games maybe for today, Friday, as people are listening? The best part of college basketball is here, and we know you're as excited as we are to watch some big upsets throughout the tournament today.

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Loser of this Mount Rushmore can't watch for the entire weekend. Let me pull up my notes. Apologies. What? We're not doing that. No, I know. Obviously. Which way are we going? Don't we always go this way? Clockwise. Okay.

Hitting an underdog money line. Ooh. Okay. Good one. Not working on Thursday or Friday. Yeah. Yeah. Good one. I would say skipping work and or school. Yeah. Yeah. School is all... You're working at school. You're just not doing anything Thursday, Friday. Yeah. I'm going to say saying my brackets busted. Mm-hmm.

Because you fucked it too hard. Yeah, I had whipping up your bracket. So it busted. Same thing. My bracket busted. Busted. Yeah. My first two picks survived. Buzzer beaters and crazy upsets. You always remember when there's a crazy upset, when there's a 15 seed, a 16 seed. I mean, 16 seed. Like, I can actually...

Close my eyes and see the Purdue just Dave screaming FDU is too small for them. Or just Virginia. Yeah. Those are my favorite. All right. My second pick is going to be One Shining Moment. Oh. Yep. That's a good one. That's a good one. Where you are. I'm going to go.

You're a shooting star. One shining moment. One shining moment. One shining moment. I actually don't like one shining moment because it's sad for me because it's over.

It's more than a contest. It's always the end where I'm like, oh, that was a lot of fun. I wish I could do that again. But it hits you in the feels. It does, but I just like, I kind of got, it hits me in the feels like, man, I really should have enjoyed this a little more. Yeah, it's kind of sad, too. It says, you always did your best because inside you knew that one shining moment you reached deep inside. One shining moment you knew you were alive. Yeah.

You are implying that you don't know that the rest of your life stinks. That sounds like something Rickon would write in one of his books. Yeah. That's a little preview for our Severance talk after Stanford. He's too much frolic. That was the greatest Severance preview that happened after the fact. Yeah. If you're watching Severance right now,

And you're behind. There could potentially be spoilers. But really not. But really not because we haven't seen the finale and also we're dumb. So, okay, who's up? I'm up. Printing out your bracket on Sunday. Yeah. Feeling it. And the paper in your hands. Touching it. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

My list sucks. Sideline reporters. Hey, he's bonk. I had to say it again. Sideline reporters. You love John Rothstein. Sideline reporters. Yeah. The females. Females. And I guess John Rothstein. Good one, too. And then my other one is the camera on a dolly that they use for the final four. That's like, I love that favorite shot in sports.

They show them running down the sidelines. That buzzer beater was sweet, yeah. And the cameras following them. They only use it for the final four. Oh, I got you. I know what you're saying. I don't like it live, but I like the replays. I love it. Yeah, I do like that. They should use that for every game. They got to switch it, though, before a shot takes place. Yeah. Because sometimes they'll do the bad angle shmangle. Okay. Max? Riding a group bet with the boys. Yes, had it on there. Great call. PFT? I'm going to go with...

Cutting Down Nets. Good one. Cutting Down Nets. Iconic. Yeah. Okay, I'm going to go with Crying Fans. Love that shit. It's always awesome. Fluke Girl. Northwestern Kid. There's just always the sad Ram. The Colorado State Ram. Yeah. Just iconic moments. And...

I'm going to go with a gambling one. I love the rogue foul when a team shouldn't be fouling anymore and then one try hard is like, I'm just going to foul one last time, then you can cover a spread or hit an over. It's something about the kids. They don't look at the coach before. Because you always got it in the back of your head. This isn't over yet. It's not over. There's like 10 seconds left. You're like, if we could just get one guy who just is a little too eager, we could get back to the free throw line. My last one, I'm going to go with...

I am choosing between two. This one no longer applies, but it was such a big part of March Madness for a while. I'm going to include it. Impractical Jokers commercials.

I had something. I had Finding True TV. Yeah, Finding True TV. That was the other one I was thinking about. Dude, talking about all I saw Twitter thread today about and it kind of triggered my memory that way back in like the 90s, we only got to watch one game and they would just have a live look in for the other games going on. It's crazy. Also, one thing that they did do back in the day that I wish they'd bring back, there was like a like our dinner window where they wouldn't have a game.

It was awesome. Yeah. On Thursday and Friday. I hated that. Oh, I love that. You just go outside and get a little fresh air. But then like you're. No, they don't. There's staggered. You'll see. I thought there was still that like five to six. There's less games in the spot, but it's not. There will. I don't think there'll be a moment where there's not a game on. Yeah, there's a 335 tip today and a 550 tip. Those aren't.

So they used to have like an actual, we can, you know, go eat dinner or go outside. Okay, Max. What was that memes? I just thought it was funny. Oh, just going outside. I'll go with Raft. Bill Rafter. Yeah, good call. I was going to... Onions. Yeah, onions. Double order. Main event. I'll just go with memorizing commercials to the point where you can guess like...

I feel like there's been March Madnesses where I'll just sit and just guess what commercial comes next. Hank is in mid-season form right now. He's going to blame us. He's going to blame us. Yep. We weren't even... Whatever. Memorizing commercials. I don't really give a shit. No, I mean, there's usually one very annoying commercial. I said my list sucked at the top. I prefaced it. Sideline reporters bonk. Stop.

I love it, Hank. I like it, Hank. I support that. One of my friends texted me. This one doesn't even mean anything. One of my friends texted me yesterday. But he still lost. He was just like F minus from Hank on Sunday. For a day I laughed so hard. I did my best. I showed up. You did. That was a good list, Hank. What was your picks? The camera. I mean, it's a sick camera. Hot reporters, the camera. Memorizing commercials. Memorizing commercials. What?

That's what everyone thinks of when they think of March. Underdog money line. Underdog money line. That's good. Yeah. We have missed wings. Oh, sneakers squeaking. I just like sneakers squeaking. But you guys are just describing like... These are Mount Rushmore of March moments, Hank.

I said wings. That's every week for you. That was honorable mention. I thought about it. I almost said day drinking, but then I was like riding a bed with your boys. That's every fucking Sunday. Oh, yeah. You guys pick the most general fucking things. And then they're like, oh, he's in midseason. What about what about instead? My favorite part of March is gambling. Like, yeah, that's what you said. That's what you said for your first pick.

Yeah, your first 50-second money line. You got it in one run. That was literally your money line. You've made a brand off that for football. All right, let's wrap this up. Max, I think you're right with the day drinking, except you've got to specify, like, I think when I think of March, I think of drinking out of those giant tubes. My favorite part of March is going to the bar with my friends. The big beer tubes. The towers. The towers, yeah. Beer tower in March. Sitting at, like, a Chili's and just, yes. Beer tower. Beer tower.

ripping beer towers. Yeah, Jimmy V running around the court hugging somebody. My favorite part of March is Friday because it means it's the weekend. Oh, vasectomies. Wait, hold on. What did you just say? Friday is the weekend? Oh, no. This was fun. I'm glad we did this. I'm glad we did this.

That's the best. We've been doing this show for so long that if you try to say one thing, you just trigger a memory to get back into another argument. You can't come back from that now, Hank. We were right. Say that we were right. Yeah, whatever. There's layers to this shit, man. There's levels. Friday's not the weekend. It's one of the more preposterous days. It's the craziest thing ever. It starts at 12.01.

The only other one I had, I love watching a team that's never seen a press. It just always makes me laugh. And you know you can get like, we can get eight quick points here. Sometimes I see that and I'm like, why don't teams just do this all game? They just get tired. Seton Hall is honestly a perfect example. Seton Hall is a horrible basketball team. Great at press. Yeah. Punks, none is that. Fuck yeah.

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Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. He is our good friend, best friend, Stanford Steve. We're going to talk Friday's slate because this is going to come out on Friday morning when people are licking their wounds from the first day.

Of the tournament, chaos everywhere. Steve, let me start with this before we get into the games. What's the setup? I got a couple things. Yeah, I want to hear your things, but what's the setup for Stanford Steve for the tournament? Oh, well...

Earlier in the week, we'll have had our Calcutta pool, which is a giant auction. It's actually, I mean, if you got a group of guys and big money, it's a different way to do the tournament. And what you do is every team has a number. There's no cap or nothing. And...

I want to say UConn, like last year, went for 35, 40K. Like it was around there. So there's probably 10 to 15 teams every year that get in. We do that Wednesday night. And then I'm actually hanging out in Dewey Beach. Starboard. Nice. Starboard Raw. Nalu. The whole deal. We'll be there. Family's coming over Friday. So it's kind of scary because we go over there so many times during the summer. But I always have my wife and kids.

As this drops, I'll be wondering how I'm doing because I'm going to have Thursday to myself. Is it spring break season? No. See, down here, my kid's spring break is late. It's the week after the Masters. Oh. So it's all screwed up. Wait. When you said by yourself on Thursday, do you mean your wife's not going to be around? Correct. Oh, you're fucked.

Why? So you have the kids or no? No. Oh, okay. All right. Good. I thought you meant you had the kids and no wife. I was like, what are you doing, Steve? All right. And then, so my other question about the setup, how do you navigate the

text messages, calls, whatever to our friend Scott if things go poorly with Maryland because we know I actually got to see Super Bowl week. I got to see the inside look of it because Steve and I were hanging out and he had to go do a hit on SportsCenter, which he's on every night, and

And before the hit was Ohio State versus Maryland, and Maryland lost in a buzzer beater. And everyone, all the producers were watching the game being like, oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. Because they knew that it will change the mood of our good friend Scott Van Pelt. So how do you navigate that? I will wait to hear from him. Okay. Smart. I mean, Saturday was so tough.

knowing that the juice is back here in the DMV for the Terps and he was on vacation and I, I never, I didn't, I didn't reach out. And this is probably, and I don't think I, I don't think we texted until I got to, or saw him until we did the podcast Monday. So,

I could see him having to deal with things differently because he was with all family members and he was with, you know, his family, his other side of the family is all Florida people. So I, as much as I wanted to, I've been there before and I know that I will wait to be spoken to. And that's how I handled that. Okay. That's smart. The other thing I wanted to get to real quick was kind of a, a revisiting of our wing date that we had last year with Mark Titus. Yeah.

So Mark, he ate chicken wings because he's proven he's one of the boys, right? Like Mark and Hank, that's what he does. So he ate, I think, 10, maybe 12 wings. And he was out for the next, what, two days? Three days. Three days. He had to call in wings. 72 hours. Yeah. He looked like death. Yeah.

Yeah, like, is it that, he's that healthy where you put a little fried food and good sauce in you and that's what it does to you? That's the Cali boy. Yeah, you can eat wings and go out for seconds. You can have dessert. Yeah. You know, you get so much sand between your toes when you're in California too long, you know, things start happening. Your body starts getting affected outside in, whereas we're building it from the inside out. Right. Where we have that strength, you know, that inner strength. That's our version of...

Playing in altitude. Yeah. Right. Just keep adding layers from the inside out. Yeah. If you made me eat like Mark for an entire week where it's like salads, I would just be, I'd wither away. I'd probably, I'd probably, a strong wind would take me. I would tap out. I couldn't do it. That's it.

I'm out. All right, what do you have for us? I wasn't sure. Are we going to talk about the crown? Because I saw Villanova made the crown. Crown is huge. Max, plug your headphones. Put your headphones back on. Max, we got a crown question from Steve. Crown, do you like Villanova's draw? Sure. We don't have a coach. We're focused on bringing in a coach, maybe Kevin Willard from Maryland.

Oh, don't say that down here. Oh, man. I heard he hasn't signed the extension yet. That's all I'm saying. I heard he hasn't signed the extension yet. All right. Well, you got pretty good sources, it sounds like. But also, Max, I'm going through the bracket, and there's no teams from the great city from Philadelphia. Like, not one.

Like this hotbed, you know, the palestra you always hear about. I think it's three straight years. No teams from Philadelphia. Is that right? Whoa. Yeah. Well, that's three straight years of Villanova not being there to carry the big five. So that's everyone. That's almost half a decade. I know. It's a long time. I know. It's close to half a decade. The SEC took all Philly's swagger. Yeah. Yeah. That's bad. For sure. That's really bad. I don't know.

This is a combination, too, because I do want to congratulate Max. I saw him the night before the Super Bowl, and I just told him, like, you know, try and enjoy it, try and enjoy it. And he had nothing. He was on one. And I just want to say congratulations to Max because I know how invested he is. But I do – then I started thinking, guys, like, we've come a long way at Super Bowl week. Like, hanging out, like –

The Greenlight guys are on another level. They basically hosted us all week, and they were great, but it was great. Dan and I had a romantic dinner next to a guy who didn't say a word and wouldn't move, and no one knew who he was, but we moved on. But having no injuries, no fatalities, and I just keep going back, guys, to that house you guys had in Houston. Do you remember the debauchery of that house of –

I mean, there were some big-time people there, and they didn't care what they were doing. I mean, Hank was a little pipsqueak back then, too. But we've matured. Like, PFT, we were out hanging out. I never know where you're going to show up, but you always do. And I really feel like we've grown for Super Bowl. Our...

Our intake is way more established, and we know what we're doing now. Yeah, the pacing is a lot better. I was surprised that Rosillo was the maniac this Super Bowl week. I felt like every time I ran into you, Rosillo was coming in at like 2 a.m., closing the shop down, telling stories about getting into a fight with Warren Sapp, just like holding court in front of the entire house. Rosillo's got a second wind in life. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, yeah. And then, you know what? There's no taking the air out of that sale the second win, too. Yeah. That thing just goes. It keeps going. But, yeah, I think we've come a long way. And, like, I compare Dan at the Super Bowl to Duke. Like, Duke – I'm a Duke fan. And these Duke teams, you know, whether it's Zion's team –

Jason Tatum's team. I love those teams, but I always wanted more. And to get Dan solo for our romantic dinner, he had nowhere to go. It was just me. So it was like, all right, you ready for another one? Yep. And he was a trooper. I give him all the credit. Listen, I wish we could do Super Bowl week in reverse where it's like, I have all the energy in the world on Sunday and Monday. And then by the end of the week,

It's just zapped. And I think about it because you know what it is too? It's that we do these live shows after a full day of everything else. We finish the day and it's 5 o'clock and then we got to go sit in a bar and do a live show. And I love it, but then I'm just like, get me to a bed where I can just sit and watch your Stanford Cardinal play at midnight. That's the thing.

Russell tries to give me shit. He's like, oh, you're out like hobnobbing with people and like, you know, star fucking. It's like, dude, I'm just losing thousands of dollars watching ACC basketball in California. That's what I'm doing. So it was a good week though.

Yeah. No, it's fantastic. It always lives up. We got our crew. But I would say, like, we've come a long way. That house you guys had, man. Oh, man. I mean, Loud Sean almost died. He almost drowned. He just got in the pool. He was trying to play one-on-one with Jared Goff, and then he got in the pool and almost died. Glennie Ball is passing out every night at about 11 p.m. in the chair with a beer in one hand and the biggest smile on his face.

Yeah, NFL quarterbacks had a weekend there, boys. Yeah, they did. Oh, my God. The best was Jared Goff called me the next morning and was like, do you know where Blake is, Blake Bortles? I was like, what? Why would I know? And he's like, why are you calling me to ask where Blake Bortles is? They had a flight to catch. Steve, real quick, though, before we get into the bracket, you gave Mac some shit for the crown. How are we feeling about our Cardinal in the NIT? I picked you guys to win it all.

Nice. Actually, no, I did. I picked George Mason over you. But you guys, I got you guys going a long way. Big win over CSUN last night. Love our coach. Almost came close to 20 wins. Had Louisville on the ropes. Bad whistle in the ACC tournament. But when you have to travel from Palo Alto to play in Charlotte in your conference tournament, you know, you're going to get those kinds of things. So, no, we're on the up. We're on the up. We actually had people at the game for the NIT. Haven't seen that in about 15 years.

So it's a process. We're moving along. We got Andrew in charge of football. That'll shed light on everything else. So we're good on the farm. Love that. Love that. All right, let's get into some games. So this first game on Friday is, I'm going to say, it's the most important game for everyone listening right now because you went through Thursday. You probably got your teeth kicked in.

You know, every March Madness goes the same for me. I go in Thursday morning with a well-thought-out plan about 30 minutes into the day. The plan goes out the window. I get absolutely smoked. But then you have Friday to wake up and be like, all right, pick yourself up off the mat. Let's do this. And the first game is actually like it's a great game in the fact that it's a one-and-a-half point spread. It's Baylor-Mississippi State. I don't.

I feel like Baylor had the type of season where I was always expecting, kind of like what you're saying, wanting more. I always wanted more from Baylor. And Mississippi State is one of those teams, like I love Hubbard. Their defense is very bad. So give us a winner. We need a winner in this first game.

First of all, when you wake up today, make sure you brush your teeth and look yourself in the mirror and say, I'm going to do it today. I'm going to do it today. It's the most important part of the day to be happy with yourself when you're brushing your teeth and looking yourself in the mirror. Have that confidence. It starts right there. This is the toughest game of the day, I believe. I know.

Like Hubbard, Hubbard has no conscience. Like he leads, I think he shoots over nine threes a game. And Baylor, to your point, Dan, I always look at that. And you look at the eights and nines in this tournament, you know, it's all the, in the seven and ten, there's all the previous national champions, and Baylor's in that category. I love Edgecombe. But again, you wanted more from Baylor. The thing that Baylor does, they play zone over 20% of the time. And they're,

Hubbard will just shoot over it. So it's all about Hubbard making shots. I do trust stands in this spot. And Drew has been hot and cold in this kind of deal. But then the other part, and you love conspiracy theories, Baylor's point guard, Jeremy Roach, no replay the last four years. Duke. Against Duke. Nova guy.

Makes me think there's something cooking in the books, seeing how the bracket got set. But I'll stick with the SEC. I'm going to go Mississippi State. Stands a style of play. I believe it frustrates Baylor. Okay. Bad pick, but I respect your recommendation. Yeah, these guys have Baylor in the Experian Busters pool that we have, so they'll be rooting for Baylor. This is one of those games that I know you know this, Steve, from doing it forever. I don't know.

I just have this chalked as no matter what loss. Yes. I'm going to pick whatever side. It doesn't matter. Whichever side. I'm not saying I have a strong lean either way. Whatever side I end up on, that's a loss. No. And the problem is that's how I feel about all the seven tens this year too. Yeah. Like Scott and I talked about, he loves the eight nine matchups because the, the namesake. And I just, I just look at trying to pick games and I'm like, I hate the seven tens more than the eight nines. But, um,

Yeah, it'll kick us off. The tempo's the whole thing in that game. Baylor likes to get up and down. Mississippi State is good playing slower. So I can't even give you a total there because it's about who dictates tempo. Okay. So the 12-5 game, Colorado State, Memphis. Mm.

I feel like everybody's picking Colorado State. They are the favorite in this game. It's like this one and then the Michigan-San Diego game. People are going back and forth between those over the most likely 12-5 upset. I feel like this one, we've talked about Memphis, that the fact that they got a five seed is very puzzling. It's really strange.

And Colorado State is probably the hottest team. So I like Colorado State, but now I'm double guessing myself and I'm like, oh, I've heard so many other people say Colorado State where now they're becoming a trendy pick to make. So maybe I should go Memphis.

Understood. The Hunter injury is enormous. He's a kid that's played at Texas, Iowa State, plenty of experience. The reason Memphis got a five is because of what they did in the out-of-conference. They went to Maui and I believe went all the way to the final, beat UConn, beat a bunch of teams out there. And I actually love what Penny has done.

Obviously, you carry around the name Penny Hardaway in that area. There's nothing bigger. And he basically fired his whole staff before the season. It was like, we got to change some things because this ain't working. And they've had a great season. The issue with this game is it's an automatic loss for me because Maryland's in the next round. So I would take...

10, like how San Diego state, you saw that mountain West, like not great, but is that a one game scenario? Mountain West teams. I'm sure you guys know this when seated 11 or lower going into San Diego state's game Tuesday night, we're one in 29 in their last 30. Now they're one in 30.

So, you know, Vegas obviously is dictating here because the 12s favored over the 5. I still think, you know, as a player, like I said, I have Maryland advancing anyway. I would just take the 12 here so you have your 12-5. Yeah. Okay. Dumb thing I'm thinking about doing and I want you to assess. Oklahoma-UConn is a good game on paper here on Friday. The total sits at 147.5.

I'm going to take the over in this game, and here's why. I know I always take overs, but listen, I'm not going to bet an under in this tournament. I'm sure they'll inflate the balls. Not one? Maybe a first half under, because I don't want to. So that leads to my point. Maybe a first half under, because I don't want to get stuck in the free throws. That could start Tuesday night. Yeah, the free throws at the end of games are crazy.

UConn and Oklahoma are both elite free throw shooting teams. I think UConn's 11. I think Oklahoma's like somewhere in six or seven. Is it crazy to be like, hey, this is a game where like maybe the over is a little too low here, not accounting for the fact that if this is a tight game, which the spread says it should be, we're going to get a lot of trips to the line and both these teams know how to make their free throws. Did you bet it yet? I have not.

Okay, because I heard you guys and Titus talking about the ball. You know, Friday we get a whole day of seeing the balls, you know, Thursday. Right. So that's key, obviously, with the issues that we've seen in balls taking caroms we've never seen. But I have more of the belief that's because of a backboard and brand new rims.

for every site. I love the over here. Okay. Love it. Both teams are going to be guns blazing. UConn, we know the intensity is going to be there. Hurley will have those guys ready. The issue is UConn against good guards. And that's the toughest thing with UConn this year. Forever in my life growing up there, they've had a point guard that just makes plays and can get to the hoop and make shots forever. And they don't have it this year.

But on the other side, that's what even hurts them even more is they really struggle defending good point guards. And fears for Oklahoma is tremendous. This will be an up-tempo game. I think Oklahoma likes to play that style. And UConn could get caught up. They're a

It feels like every game you watch them, there's a 10-0 run each way. And then it's just how are they going to respond. So Oklahoma's been really good. Unbelievable cover at the end of that SEC tournament against Kentucky. I mean, they had them on the ropes. But, yeah, I love the over in this game. The point spread's getting –

Crazy high. Yeah. Loved it. I mean, I thought I saw you. UConn won it open. I was thinking I took a minus three, and now I'm seeing like five and a half. Five and a half. So that scares me off there, but I expect UConn to win the game, but I really like your over there. All right. By the way, I just put it in because I was like, basically like if you said even I kind of like it, I would have put it in, but you said you really like it.

He was waiting for you to say, fuck you, you're crazy, and then he wouldn't have put it in. That's the kind of direct action he needs. If Steven said, fuck you, you're crazy, I would have waited until right before tip to put it in. The fact that he said, I like it, I put it in now. Got it. It was going in no matter what. Steve, I got a question for you about that. So you were saying, like, we'll see one day of balls on Thursday, and then on Friday we can adjust our bets based on what we saw Thursday. Mm-hmm.

Historically, do you know how that works out? Like if there's a trend on Thursday where the under is hitting at a 70% clip, does that hold over through Friday or do the bookmakers adjust overnight for that? Well, the one year I will go back that I joined you on the Sunday before the tournament on selection Sunday, I believe it was the day after, and then that spot got hijacked. I was just going to – I think I gave out first half unders that day

day and it crushed. Like, I think it started 8-0. And I kind of tapped out after that because I was like, I'll take 8-0 because there's that little space before the night games and I'm like, I'm good with 8-0 on the unders. You could have this. But it feels like it comes around on Friday. It balances out. It always does. If there was that crazy of a trend, the crazy tournament bettors would have it.

But I look at more of the teams, PFT. And, you know, I'm going down this Friday, so I see a lot of teams that Dan has rode overs of. And I do expect a lot of points on Friday. Yeah, I think like Norfolk –

Florida, which we don't spend a lot of time on a one 16, I Florida names their number. Like as long as they're going, their team totals like 91 and a half, but I don't think it matters. Norfolk's going to try to zone them, which they'll hit threes. They'll rebound. Like that's going to be a disaster. The issue is Norfolk. Like when does Florida call the dogs off? Cause they have 12 of them. Right. And you got it. I mean, Norfolk's got to get to 60. I would think. Yeah. For you to be good. And I just, they're so good and swarm. Like,

You get the ball underneath the hoop against Florida. You can't even get it over your shoulder. Right. And it just gets punched right back in your face. So good luck to Norfolk State. They have a great year. They come in scoring a bunch of points. I have looked at that over. So you're going to need like a 95-55 right around there, I think.

because it's in the 160s. I think Florida's going for 100. That's the thing with Florida. They shoot threes, and then when they miss their threes, there's three dudes who are all close to seven feet just standing there getting the rebounds.

bounce yeah and you have to take the ball out of bounds after it just got slammed in your head exactly exactly uh steve how much do you put into speaking of florida and the sec in general of conference and like these matchups and what we saw in the regular season and like hey is the sec gonna just keep being dominant is it is it you know there's a you know the acc has been shit on but maybe you know they only got four teams and maybe these teams are better than people think

think. How much do you play into that when you're looking at these games? Well, I'm beating over the head every night watching games with a former ACC guy and just hearing how bad the ACC is year in and year out. And then they had like three teams. They've gotten the most wins the last five years, I think I saw, of any conference in the tournament, which is

mind-blowing to me, knowing how everyone shits on it. And I get it. The bottom of the conference is terrible, but I still think the top is good. To me, it's the end. No, it's still about matchups. It really is. Now, if you're going with the bracket and everybody's already filled out, like I said, you can't have Florida or Duke. You know, you got to be different and just hope.

Because everyone, I mean, everyone has Florida Duke in the final. And that's scary to me. And if you're trying to get, you know, people go about the bracket different ways. And I just go against the trends. You know, it feels like everybody had the ones and twos playing the Elite Eight. So, you know, it's Florida, I mean, as impressive. I mean, the conference that they just stormed, they won every game by double digits. And, you know, you hear about all the power ranking numbers and everything. I mean, they were just devastating.

dominated that conference. So they're as impressive as, you know, UConn last year, you wondered because I think the Big East only got three teams. So it was like, all right, well, when they start playing some better teams, how are they going to respond? But Florida's played the best of the best, and I expect them. They're going to have to get tripped up in a game where a team is an A-plus and they're like a C, C-minus. That's the only way I see them losing. Big game for conference pride would be UNC Ole Miss.

I feel like that swings a lot of emotion. If you're an ACC guy, you're definitely rooting for UNC to say, even in a down year, we can still beat the fuck out of you guys. UNC, do we owe Bubba Cunningham an apology? Did Bubba Cunningham get it right? No. I do. I will apologize.

Seth Davis said that. He's like, no matter what happens tonight, it doesn't mean that this is right or wrong. I was like, yeah, it fucking does. When UNC wins, then the committee was right. And if they lose, then they should be banned from basketball. That was my issue because as soon as it came out, I bet Carolina goes sweet 16 because of the matchup. Like, I just can't do it with Mountain West teams. And then you look at Ole Miss, who's a six, played in the SEC, but they don't have it. Like, Carolina, you watch them. The biggest jarring thing is,

They don't have any bigs that are like pros, like forever in your life. Carolina's had pros that are bigs. But Ole Miss doesn't have any bigs really either. So, like, I love the matchup for Carolina here. And, yeah, it's probably a conference pride deal. And that's the other thing, PFT, is like you know the SEC haters –

Having to hear that they set a record for 14 teams, and you know they are just waiting because they're going to set the record for most losses in a tournament. Right, right. Only one team ends the season with a win. So I just know that that is starting. It's just a matter of how fast it is.

accumulates, but you know that Army is coming to jump on the SEC. Oh, but they got the record for the most losses. Yeah, no shit. So, no, it's definitely a big conference pride deal. Where is this game? This game is in... Let's see. Oh, it's got to be close. It's got to be in Cleveland, right? Because they just played in Dayton. Fiserv. Yeah. Oh, that might be Milwaukee. Fiserv, Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Milwaukee. Okay.

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All right, two other overs I'm looking at on Friday. You can tell me if I'm crazy. Give it to me. There's one I absolutely love. Okay, New Mexico Marquette.

I think both those teams are going to try to get up and down. And then the other one was Arizona-Akron. That's high, very high. But they just fucking run. And I don't know. Akron's going to have trouble. Arizona's not that big, but neither is Akron. I think they're just going to shoot threes, and it's going to be one of those games that there's going to be crazy runs both ways. And I'm just expecting the pace to be so out of control that we can get to 75 possessions each side.

Yeah, this is one of the most interesting 13-4 when I look at the matchups.

I know you guys were heavily invested in the MAAC tournament. It's one of my favorite tournaments. I really think those teams are legit. They played in Cleveland. Every team's from freaking Ohio. So the building's packed. It's an awesome atmosphere. And Akron, to your point, they just want to go. Like, all right, we gave up a hoop, but they make threes. Right. That's the problem with the MAAC teams when they get to this level is their three-point shooting falls off. And with that, I love the defense that Arizona guards play.

But Akron's style, it's not like they prefer the three. Everybody prefers an open three. But Akron's like, all right, fine, you want to take away that? We'll go to the hoop. So their pace is incredible. And it's getting, you know, it's a pretty trendy dog. I've heard plenty of people pick the upset. I just, I like Arizona's personnel. And I love the fact, if they move on, that they already played Duke.

and they've seen that length in athleticism. So Arizona's kind of a sneaky team for me. I knew you were going to take the highest over on the board. You never look at an Ivy League over or something like that. You always want to go with the over. But yeah, I don't see how you take the under in that game, knowing the pace that those people play. And

He's probably the biggest outlier in the tournament because his good has brought a team to a national championship game and his bad is, has, has not, you know, been good. And that's Caleb love. Yeah, he is. I mean, you talk, I mean, I thought he was really good against Houston in the final and Arizona made her. I was really curious about them in the big 12 tournament, but they were impressive. And,

That bracket, I do my teams that can win the national title. I have five teams in that bracket that can win it. What are they? Give them to us. Wisconsin hanging by a thread. Yeah. Hanging by a thread because of the draw. We will know how we're doing there. But BYU is a team that everyone's picking against, but they were on the list. BYU can win the national title. Yes. BYU leave it. Okay, I like it. Yeah. Yeah, that's huge memes.

the Denver spot I like, but though. Yeah. VCU thing. It's kind of hard to do now, but our chips are in. Don't worry about it. Yeah. I, then the other over that I love is Kentucky Troy. Ooh. Yeah. Kentucky is not interested in playing defense. Now with Butler back, he's their like only defense line of defense. Cause he is a really good defensive point guard. He's got plenty of tournament experience, but he's,

You know, the shoulder, you know, it seems like it's not to the extent of Malik Brown for Duke, but they need him to go far. But they're still going to shoot. I mean, they're like my favorite team to watch in college basketball, the way they play five out. And Barea is an unbelievable shooter. And they could shoot it from all over. So I look at that. And Troy's a team that beat Rico's Arkansas State team that he quickly jumped off the bandwagon of.

And they gave it to them. I mean, they go with the hoop, and they're pretty fearless. So I like that over. All right, so who are the other teams that you think can win it all? You've got BYU, Wisconsin by a thread. Yep. Who else? Duke, Arizona, Bama. Duke, Arizona, Bama. That's all in that. But I have said all year –

Duke will not win the national championship if they don't have Malik Brown. Ooh. And he's out. I don't think he's coming back. It's dicey. Yeah. So that's, yeah. I have the list every year, PFT, and then I'm doing the, you know, when you get the bracket, I go through that, and I'm like,

Like, oh, my God. So all this talk about Duke having an easy draw, I don't believe it at all. We touched on Baylor and Mississippi State. They're a pain in the ass. And that's the least amount of talk about the 8-9 versus the 1 than any other. Like, you go through the other bracket. Everyone's talking about UConn getting a rematch or, you know, two-time champ going against the last two-time champ in Florida. Gonzaga's getting plenty of talk. And then Louisville gets to play in Texas.

in in lexington uh but no one's talking about creighton in that game so all those eight nines against the one have gotten more steam uh i feel and in mississippi state and baylor winners is dangerous to me to do yeah all right um are their best pets on thursday on friday sorry uh we got the yukon over you want to talk about i got i got one yeah go ahead liberty oregon over

Just strictly because it's the lowest. It's the lowest, and it's also the last game, and I feel like crazy shit happens in those nighttime matches. Oregon's always in that game, too. Yeah. That game they had last year was brutal when they had five guys. The one I'm interested in here is Michigan State. I look at their team total under because they don't care how they win.

Like, does that make sense? Like they're like, you want to shoot some threes. All right. We know we got to shoot some threes, but you know what? You're not going to make three. So we're going to, you know, slow it down and make it methodical, but they're not interested in, in, in scoring high numbers. And you know, with Michigan state and plenty of people have picked them to the final four. They've had a great season overachieved from what they were at the beginning of the season. There's a bunch of those teams, but they come to mind at the top, but like,

It's pretty high. It's in the 80s, I think I had. Yeah. 85 and a half. There's no way. Yeah. I don't see that. And Bryant's got some guys. Bryant's got some size. They've got a point guard at 6'6". That could do it. So that's a really interesting game to me. And I feel like Michigan State, they dictate a lot. And if they want to, let's make that team defend you in the paint.

Yeah, Izzo is kind of like Saban in that once it's over, it's over. He's not going to push it. He's not going to, you know, Nate Oates where they're just still running and gunning up, you know, a million. Like he kind of respects the game.

And they don't violate the three-point line. Right. Right. You know? They're pretty methodical. And it's been successful, so why are you going to get away from that? So that's one that stuck out to me. Okay. All right. So who are the other teams that you have overall across the bracket that can win it all? Be careful, because one of these might have already been eliminated. I know. Well...

Now we know they cannot win. Yeah. Yeah. There's only going to be one standing Midwest, Houston, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Florida, St. John's tech Terps, South Auburn, Iowa state Sparty. Okay. Let's actually talk real quick about Maryland grand Canyon in this game. I, I like Maryland. I think they're a phenomenal team.

You got to be a little nervous if you're a Maryland fan, knowing your depth issues. Crab five is great, but it falls off after that. And in the tournament, you're always just one bad whistle away from being like, holy shit, how do we have, you know, we got to sit a guy with two fouls five minutes into the game. Like, what are your thoughts on Maryland overall and making a deep tournament run? I really like it.

Because they know what they got, Dan. You know, I even look at Florida and it's just like, I don't even know how they do substitution patterns because you don't argue with who's on the floor. And then you look at it and you're like, oh, so-and-so only played 12 minutes. Well, does it matter? You scored 90 and you won by 20. Right. You know? But Maryland knows what they have to get from guys.

and that's I think it's only six points they get from the bench a game and I thought that was even high because I watch them every night and it's like no one scores on the bench Geronimo's a great backup uh big man the issue is is is Queen you saw him get refereed differently in the Big Ten tournament went to the hoop a bunch against Michigan and didn't get calls but

Willard's got plenty of experience. He is a guy that if a player gets two fouls, they sit in the first half. That's a fact. So does he change his ways there? But I just love their shot making. Their guards are tremendous. They run great stuff. The issue with Maryland in that starting five is their guards don't rebound.

but they're such an offensive team that I don't think they worry about that, but I really like their draw. And at some point, when you're at a four, you play the one, hopefully. And, you know, you get a week to prepare and you roll the balls out. So, I...

It's been really, really cool. The crab five thing, what these guys done, how Willard has constructed this roster after. I mean, they were abysmal shooting the ball the last couple of years. Just just couldn't do it. It was it was tough to watch. And now here they are, one of the best scoring teams in a power conference. So I love the turf. Steve, what's your plan in terms of your your bet management strategy for what you're looking at?

Like I'm talking about, like, do you have a pen and a paper? Do you have a physical piece of paper in front of you while you're watching the games? Do you have written down on like a whiteboard or do you just rely on the app? This, this is already written. This has been a couple of day tally of things we like with the apps. Now it's kind of like,

Do you want to look at how bad it was? You know, like everything's in there where you look at it and it's like, oh, I still got this to play and I still got this in play. There's some pen and paper, but, you know, if you're going out to the bars with the guys, you know, kind of leave that pen and paper home because you don't want that getting out or losing it because they're, you know –

You've got to instill it in your head already, and you've got to have a mindset going in and worry of the intake of accumulating over the course of a day. And now, I mean, what do we got? We got a 10 o'clock tip and a 10-10 tip?

safe bet is to be in bed for those ones. Yeah, my plan every March Masters, again, I'm a losing bettor. I lose every year. Everyone does. Yeah, everyone does. Everyone does. But you can't – there's got to be a moment where you just let go of all the numbers and analysis and things you've been reading and just let it fly. Just start seeing the ball, throwing it, throwing to open spots. Like that happens early on Thursday where I'm like, all right, I've done all the research. I got all my notes.

We got to just go. We got to trust the process. And PFT, to your point, a lot has changed. I mean, growing up and seeing people, relatives, friends, bet with a bookie and just let the tab run, that is like – those don't happen as long – because you're on the app, so it's like, all right, am I going to put another thousand on here? Like, you really have that –

come to face moment all right when you're when you're looking at you know the deposits and the withdrawals so um i think it's you know what you got to know what you have going in because again thursday and friday are absolute marathons and i always just say try to stay in the fight yeah just try and stay in the fight and if you get to saturday you clear down you got a couple more hours i think that first game's not till 140 uh but stay in the fight and uh

Again, wake up Saturday positive as hell. Yeah, I like to write it down, though, in the first two games because there's so much happening, so much basketball going on. I feel like I'm being pulled in seven different directions. I like to have the pen and the paper in front of me. Now, you're right. If you're going out to a bar. Yeah, preferably yellow notepad. That's the best one. But, yeah, if you're going out to a bar with friends, I don't think anybody likes the guy that keeps pulling out a sheet of paper and crossing things off and checking.

All that stuff. But we're going to be in a gambling-rich environment on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, are you guys streaming? Yeah, streaming them all. Streaming them all. Oldie coming? Oldie's not coming for these ones. That would be... I don't know if that's a good mix. Oldie's electric. He was electric on... He's also on fire. BFT, the video of you working on the car and him helping the garbage guys, I could...

Not stop laughing. And it's not for the camera either. That's only in the video. And the accent, and the way he says boys, I can't get enough of it. You should see Steve. Literally, the four days he was here last week, every time I turned around, he was taking out the trash. He was restocking the water bottles. He was doing everything. He was filling water bottles.

He can't sit still. I listened to how it all came about when Yans was talking about how he's friends with Nasher. Can you imagine him going in the Rangers locker room before a playoff hockey game? Yes. Hey, boys. It's incredible. They love them, too. He showed me the video. The guys went nuts.

It's like a stripper. He's like a male stripper for dudes, for straight guys. Yeah. You bring him in, and he just gets you fucking pumped up. And he also takes his clothes off sometimes, too. And he's got a vagina. Yeah. Oh, man. Love him. All right. Like that, I mean, you guys have always found these diamonds in the rough, but, man, it's said about you guys forever. Like, you just keep...

living up to the hype. I'm like, who the hell is this guy? And I can't get enough of him. Love the guy. But his genuine energy is just incredible. It's awesome. The last two times he's come down here, the only two times...

He's brought additional pieces of carry-on luggage with him just so he can fill them up with Canadian snacks that we don't have down in the States. And then he gets down here and just passes them out. He brought maple syrup. He brought candy bars that we don't have down here. He brought two boxes of Tim Horton's donuts, and they sat next to him on the plane. The guy's just a gem. And every morning when he wakes up in his hotel room, he packs all of his stuff back up and brings it to the office because he's like, what if I forget something?

So every day he wakes up when he's here. And he packs. Like he's going to the airport, and then he brings it back. It's crazy. Those are my worst times when I'm traveling for game day. But the other thing that I heard those guys is like, yeah, if he gets the call, he just tells his garbage guys in Canada. He's like, boys called. Got to go. Got to go. Got to go. Got to go. Got to go.

He says, you got to go. Oh, it's great. All right, Steve, last question. Roback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. So obviously we watched Thursday, and this is coming out Friday, but you can still bet on this. Two national champions. So people could possibly put a future on. Give us two. I'll give you a – they're on the same side –

Alabama and Tennessee. Oh. Oh. Rick Barnes. Yes. I love Rick Barnes. I know everyone picks apart Final Fours, but there's plenty of Sweet Sixteens and Elite Eights in this resume. And this – I mean, you guys know this tournament's a crapshoot. I think it's the craziest way to win a national championship. Yeah.

stuff happens. Like last year, he loses to Kai Ziegler, his most valuable player. Connect scores, what, 37? And they lose to Purdue. What are you supposed to do? There's plenty of those instances. I do feel different about Tennessee. And they'll probably have

have already been eliminated by Wofford. Wofford will shoot 33s and make 20. To your point, they might be a better team than they were last year. They don't have their best player, obviously. They're better offensively. It's not even a question. And Ziegler. Like, Ziegler, like, you hear, you know, Billis and those guys talk. Like, maybe there's not five more valuable point guards.

And what he did in the SEC championship would keep going at Florida. It was super impressive. He shot it better. He goes to the line a bunch. And they got some guys in the portal that could score. So I really like that team. Yeah, both 22-1. So not taking Auburn. Are they? Yeah, they're 22-1 right now. It will be down a little because I think they both play – or at least –

Tennessee plays on Thursday. I might parlay them both to win the national championship. How about that? Also, I don't know if you heard this, Steve. College basketball expert Jalen Rose last night was talking about he was gassing up Auburn and what a great player Johnny Broom is. So I don't know if you want to kind of follow his advice and bet on Johnny Broom. I'm good with that. Okay. I do feel like it's a buy low spot on Auburn. Yeah, it might be. It might be.

Women's picks. Oh. Women's picks. You want to get those? Yes. Go. Give it to us. There's app. You could find it on multiple apps. UConn and South Carolina to meet in the final, I believe, is plus 400. I like Ole Miss to go to the Sweet 16. Okay. UCLA's got the toughest draw. UConn, obviously, to win their region, I believe, is around even money. But, yeah, UConn.

That list is way bigger than we've ever had it in the women's game. So I'm fired up for the one. I got three daughters. Wife's a Hoops fan too. So like you guys think you're, you know, you guys are getting the cave with the men's games. We, we got them all. Yeah. When they start Friday. Oh man. We, yeah, we were,

We got iPads underneath TVs like everywhere. I love it. I'm in beds the next morning. They're all over. You got to make sure they're charged up. Charge the iPads. I like that, though. Calling your shot on the exact matchup in the championship. Yes, it's a good one. Yeah, what about that? All right, Steve. Thank you as always. You're the best. Sorry we couldn't get Snooki to pair you with. We'll do it next year. That is tradition. So we reached out. She's sick. She's under the weather. Two things.

PFT, Chief and Senko met you down in Oxford. Big caps, guys. Come on down. Rock the red anytime you want. And I want to give good news to Mark Titus that the wing date's not on this year. Oh, you're not going to be in San Antonio. I will not be at San Antonio. So Mark can breathe a big sigh of relief. I'm still going to go with Chenoweth, and we're going to turn on the women's game, and we'll watch some hoops.

Hey, Final Four, big night. Yeah. Actually, hey, you know what? You could probably watch Scott and I after the game. Yeah, perfect, perfect. What everyone loves to do. Yeah. All right, thanks, Steve. All right, boys. Stanford Steve was brought to you by No Bull. If you're going to work out, you've got to try No Bull Footwear.

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Yeah, I mean, the people will know by now. We're taping this in the morning. Yeah. Purdue's 19-13 to the over. Under vibes, though, per Hank. Per Hank. Purdue's ultimate under vibes. Hank, if it makes you feel any better, you have just as much college basketball expertise as Jalen Rose does. If you heard that clip. It's the tournament. This is where casuals come to play. Yeah, and that's fine.

Apparently not, though. Big Cat's trying to gatekeep my lack of ball knowledge. No, I'm not. No, I'm not trying to gatekeep. You asked me what I had. I said the over, and you said, ew, Purdue under? No, I said. Oh, you said under, and I said I have the over. Oh, no, no. I said I have the over first. So why under? I said the vibes. Yeah, Purdue. Like, ew, Purdue.

I mean, Ew, Purdue is right. But they do play. They do score points. Yeah, like I said. Their defense sucks. But at this point, the people will know. At this point, I've got to just double my bet on the over and just make it a personal thing between us. Ooh, Hank. Hank, breaking moves. The Boston Celtics. Whoa.

Have been sold. Oh. Bill Chisholm, the managing partner at Symphony Technology Group. Oh, Billy. Billy Chizzy has agreed to purchase the Celtics from the Grousbeck family for a valuation of $6.1 billion. What does he do? Billy? What does he do? He's the CEO of... What's that again? Symphony Technology. Symphony Technology. STG.

So like clarinets and shit. I don't know. Yeah, I was about to say, I feel like this guy did a really good job of naming his company where he's probably like creating drones that kill a bunch of people in foreign countries. Sounds like a great guy. But he calls it Symphony Technology. So you think of it and you're like, oh, that can't be that bad. Symphony Technology Group. We leverage advanced solutions to kinetically eliminate challenges. Yeah, exactly. Private equity. All right. Symphony Technology. Yeah, they probably are like investing in companies that are putting everyone in America out of work in the next 20 years.

For the called symphony. All right. Tell me if you can decide what these guys do. We find, build, and scale mid-market software and software-enabled tech service businesses. We have tailored our team and approach specifically to these sectors. We believe we unlock the potential of innovative companies by partnering with top management teams to build customer-centric market winners. Okay. I know exactly what they do. That's just... They just give them... They just...

They just buy the company and infuse cash. And Dell. Sell it. No, here's what they do. They buy companies, and then they fire everyone, and then they make more money. Yeah. Well, no, they make everyone work really hard. Wait, you don't like capitalism, PFT? Is that...

I'm just explaining what he does. They make everyone work really hard for a couple years. They build it really big. Then they fire everyone. Then they sell. Then they sell it. So this guy is going to be acquiring the Celtics. So put that in basketball terms for me. He's going to make Peyton Pritchard play 500 minutes a week and then fire him in two years. Bill Chisholm. Bill Chisholm. So it's now the largest sale for a sports franchise in North America. The Commanders were sold for $6.05 billion in

The Celtics were sold for $6.1 billion. William Chisholm. Trying to learn more about this guy. Billy Chiz. Hank. Hank, what are you doing? Are you on it? At Symphony. Symphony. He's Billy Strings. Yeah. You love this guy. Legend, I do love this guy. I'm also trying to find out some more information on him, but he seems like a great guy. Clearly a very smart business mind.

And I'm excited to see what he's got in store. Hopefully he likes the Celtics and isn't doing this as a business. I'm sure that's what it is. I mean, I'm sure the private equity managing partner doesn't care about making money. There's a passion for him. Well, that's the problem is our current owners. Like they were like, we don't care about the luxury tax. Well, we'll lose a hundred million dollars a year and you just want to be a championship winning team. That's what you want. Yeah. That is what you want. Time will tell. Time will tell. Yeah. Okay. My fire fest of the week.

Well, I mean, it's snowing today. That wasn't ideal. Wasn't expecting that driving into work today. And nothing. I mean, nothing major. It's the best week of the year. Only real fire fest or grape I have this week is just that the Severance season finale is tonight, Thursday night. It'll be out by now. And I don't know when I'm going to watch it, but I'm terrified of it getting spoiled. So I'm probably going to stay up to like 3 a.m. tonight watching it. Yeah. Why would you say this out loud?

We may have to cut this. Yeah, you gotta cut this. You're gonna screw all of us. Alright, what do you... But you know... You know people are gonna...

We're going to try to spoil you now. It is true, but yeah, Hank's going to watch it. But then everyone else is going to get it. So it's really our Fyre Fest is that Hank... Yeah, my Fyre Fest is that we just talked about this and now I'm going to get it spoiled. So now I have to watch Severance when I get home. We're keeping it in. Okay, we'll keep it in. No, no, I'll figure something out. You're right, you're right. Hey, fake spoilers only, please. No, we're keeping it in. No, no, no, no. Some people do fake ones, some people do real ones, and then you just don't know. Yeah, if you mix it up, it's totally fine. And honestly, yeah, you guys don't deserve that. You guys don't deserve that. So...

We can cut it. I don't want that to happen. Severance King is coming out today. Sopranos came out 22 years ago. But when I told you I was watching it and enjoying it, you specifically went out of your way for months to spoil it. Fair counterpoint. No, it wasn't a coincidental thing. We're fine. We're just going to all... No, no, no. We're not cutting it. I'm just going to have to watch it after the game as well. Or watch it with breakfast tomorrow? I'm going to be up until 2 a.m. It's 75 minutes.

I'm excited. You know what this is? This is like a relationship breaker. This severance coming out right now because a lot of guys are going to watch it either late night tonight or early tomorrow morning. So they don't watch it on Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, Sunday. And then their girlfriends and wives are going to be like, what the fuck? You just watch the finale of severance without me. Well, they're idiots because they just have to. Like I told my wife, I was like, just watch it without me. I'll figure out what I'm going to watch it because you can't.

Like, I'm incapacitated for the next four days. I can't be relied on. No. Yeah, so I told her, I was like, watch it. Because, like, come Monday, you're not going to be like, you're going to get it spoiled. So just watch it. Do you have any predictions? I don't think we should do that. Okay. It's not a spoiler. We don't follow rules on this show. Okay. No predictions. That's facts. Okay.

I think it's weird that those brothers made out on the boat. Yeah. But why did that chick stay with him after he unleashed the poisonous snakes? That was crazy. I also saw the meme of the Duke guy with the gun. Yeah. I was like, fuck, it got spoiled. This guy killed himself. Didn't actually kill himself. Yeah. Yeah.

And then Parker. Spoiler for who hasn't seen that episode yet. Everything about that guy and everything about Parker Posey's character. I love Parker Posey so much. It's so good. Tar Heel. Where's my little Razzapam? My little Razzapam's all gone. Do you know what we're talking about now? I do. White Lotus. Tar Heel. All right, what's your prediction? Kier wins it all?

No, I think they're going to set up a flashback season. Yeah, it kind of isn't. It's not as big of a deal knowing there's another season. If this was the finale finale. I want death. I want multiple deaths. I think Helly's going to kill her dad. Oh, wow. Shit. We should put like spoilers. You just want the show to be Game of Thrones. Yeah.

No, I mean, she's shown. I want a dragon to come out. No, no. I mean, that'd be cool. Like instead of goats. But she's shown that she can, you know, she wants to kill herself. She's dangerous. She tried to kill Mark in the first season. She tried to kill herself. Like, they think that she's, you know, her daughter, who's like the whatever of the company. But they don't know. They don't know Helly down there. Okay. I think he does want to be Game of Thrones. Yeah. Like, they make Dylan the boss. That's not a Game of Thrones. That's a realistic take. Are you betting the Purdue over or under?

Under. Okay. You told me to. No, I know. I bet it for a lot. A lot? Yeah. Oh, God. How do we always end up in this spot? You're scoffing me and then I take it personally. Yeah. We'll figure it out. No, we won't. I'm going to have to watch it at one in the morning today. Yeah.

Again, we can cut it because I don't know. No, no, no. Because then we just. But you know you would get it. Would you not see something in the next three days? Like, you know you would. I'm pretty good at, like, my eyes. Like, when I don't. I didn't watch the last one until Tuesday.

I'm pretty good at like scrolling and if I see anything that looks like it, I just scroll as fast as I can. Like I don't, I kind of almost, I kind of look at the internet like with the magic eye where like my eyes are a little crossed when I'm trying to avoid spoilers. I think that young girl that had the adult's brain inside her, Miss Huang. Wait, she has an adult's brain inside of her? Yeah, clearly. Huang. She was the manager? Yeah.

I think she might be Mark's kid. Huang. What do you think about that? I don't know if the time matches up. When they were doing the fertility treatments? Yeah, she was like 10, though. Yeah. The timing doesn't match up. You don't think so? It was right when they graduated from college. No. What? Right? That was like a flash forward sequence. They were college professors. Yeah, but I thought the timeline would match up. No, they were college professors, not in college. She died like two years ago.

Yeah. Miss Wong is like 10. Okay, never mind. That doesn't add up. But I like the theory. But you never know. You never know. I like the theory. I'm not saying they could do anything with timelines. I like the idea that this isn't my theory. This is on the internet. But Gemma is an innie that they released to the real world to make Mark fall in love. She was never a real person.

Yeah, Twilight Zone stuff. She got severed to leave. Yeah. The Twilight Zone. She was always in any. Sorry. How pissed do you think I would be if I sat down with the therapy woman and she was like, your Audi went 16 and 0? I'd be so mad. Like, you motherfuckers. I want to feel that right now. I don't think that it's bad that Dylan's wife...

kissed Dylan's innie. Me neither. It's the same guy. I don't think I would you get mad? I'd be like yeah fuck it. I think the problem with it is that he's totally he's totally different like she's falling in love with the innie because he's totally different than what he's become. He doesn't know that. He doesn't know that. I agree. I'm just saying I think that's why she's kind of broken up about it too. I say fair play. But it's also weird because you gotta support your bros. Irv and Burt

They treat their in-e relationship like it's their out-e relationship. But Dylan and the girl do look at it as completely separate things. This is the worst recap of Severance ever, but I like it. I like talking Severance to the boys. I thought we were cutting this whole thing. What if Michael Scott just came out and he was Keir at the end and it was just a big episode of The Office? That would be sick. Yeah. What were you going to say, Max? The Twilight Zone thing is that they have the same episode names of a Twilight Zone movie.

about like a mannequin going into the real world. So that's why people back up what Hank said about Gemma was just a mannequin the whole time and that she's like not even a real person. I don't like to read too many of the theories online. I do. I read all of them. I just get TikTok. My TikTok is just golf swing tips and sevens. The problem with reading them though is they, I think fans of a show, I like to just enjoy the show because I think what happens with the show when it's this good, it is this good.

They think that every little second of the show is very intentional. You know what I mean? We're like, what was this? But in Severance, I think it might be. That's the difference. A lot of shows, you read too much into it. I think that Severance has all that shit in there on purpose. My personal take, that's not... But it's not all of it. Probably not. Yeah, there's probably some crackpot ones. Not internet theory based. Just my own take is that they...

Did not expect the show to be as big of a hit as it is, and they are going to stretch it out, and they're going to do an entire backstory, either season or spinoff show. Okay. And I could see it being a season. They're going to Ted Lasso it? No, they're just going to go back 20 years and they're going to tell Bert's whole story. They're going to tell Milicek's whole story. Oh, yeah. You told that Cobell's factory story. Yeah. And then the next season is going to be the continuation of this season. Do they live in Alaska?

People say it's Michigan. It feels like the UP. It's just always snowing and dark. Yeah. There's a giant body of water. Well, no, I did read that the...

I was reading about the filmography. Is that right? Yeah. Cinematography. Cinematography. Thank you. Because I thought it's a very cool shot showing I'm really stupid about this stuff. But they said that they intentionally... The fact that it's always snowy and the cars and everything they put in it makes it feel like you couldn't fully pinpoint what time it is in the movie.

Yeah. The cars are all shitty. They're all from like the 90s or 80s. Right. But they have modern cell phones. Right. So you can't fully figure it out where it is. I thought they had iPhones. No. No one on the show has an iPhone. That's a big internet thing. Oh. Because iPhone doesn't let. Oh, bad guys. Yeah. Antagonists use iPhones. So people are like, is everyone an antagonist? I kind of have a little weird crush on Cobell. She's like, there's a couple times. I think she's good or bad. I don't know, but I think she's a baddie. Yeah. Yeah.

I'd hit. Yeah. There are a couple times when I'm like, oh, what is that? I think when she was younger. Have some gas and hit. Yeah. Some ether. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Good Severance talk. What's your Firefest, Hank? That was it. Oh, yeah. Good Firefest. That's how we got here. Yeah, that is how we got here. Okay. PFT. My Firefest is that earlier this week, I was coming home late, and the lock on my front door was...

I lost the key to it a long time ago, so I've just been going in through the garage. No big deal. But I've got a lock on my back door through the garage to get into my house, and it's been blinking red when I enter the code to get in for the last two months.

I was like, okay, that's kind of weird. But it was still working. So I got there on, I think it was Sunday night after we recorded PMT. What? That's kind of weird. And I hit the code. What could this mean? Yeah. Just ignore this. Yeah. I just ignored it. I was like, is this good? So I entered the code in and it blinks red, but it blinks like faster and red this time. And then it makes a pathetic sound like it's trying to open the lock and it doesn't.

And then I just sat there. You ran out of batteries. And I hit it again, and it still didn't work. And I was like, fuck, this sucks. I think I'm locked out of my house right now. And so I keep entering it, keep entering it. And then after about, I'd say, seven minutes. Probably not seven minutes. I'd say probably like two and a half minutes. It finally opens. And I get in. I'm like, fuck, yeah, this is cool. So then I'm going home again later. No thought to change the battery. No thought. No thought to change the battery. So then I go home again later this week, and I'm trying to get in.

Doesn't open. Same thing happens. It's like, okay, I'll just sit here for...

We'll give it two and a half, five minutes, and I'll just keep entering the code until it opens because that's what happened on Sunday. And I keep doing it, keep doing it, keep doing it, and the door just never opens. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And so then I just go out and I fall asleep in my car in the garage and I just wait. And then I got up like an hour later, went back to it. Second time, it finally opened up and I got inside. At that point, I thought I'd look it up and I had to change the battery on it. So I'm able to get inside now, but I slept in my car for like an hour, I think on Tuesday night.

No big deal. It was comfortable in the car. Yeah. But yeah, the fact that it was blinking. The car wasn't on, right? It was the electric? Yeah, the car wasn't on in the garage. It's all good. Good point though, Hank. Don't run your car in the garage. Yeah. But yeah, I probably should have known that something was wrong with the door lock.

the first time when it started blinking red a few weeks ago just excited to see you yeah yeah oh that's cool yeah when you have a household appliance that starts blinking red like it's a bomb about to go off maybe that's cool maybe google it uh but now i feel like i'm i'm on like i i got a clear path in front because i got a brand new set of batteries in there would

Would you be fine since it was electric? It says not to run it in the garage just in case it starts a fire. Got it. So I just... But you wouldn't... It wouldn't be the... I think it's a general rule of thumb. Yeah. Yeah.

That's actually like a funny bit of like someone trying to kill themselves with an electric car by accident. Yeah. Like, what are you doing, dude? Yeah. He just takes like an eight hour nap. Yeah, they wake up like, what the fuck? Am I in heaven? A guy who owns a Prius catches his wife cheating on him and he just goes to the garage. She's like, I'm ending it all. And just stays in there for like a day. Sits there, yeah. Fuck.

But yeah, my garage is good now. But that's a good point. Even if you have a hybrid or an electric car, some of them produce some emissions, so don't do that. Yeah. But I was good. Okay. I don't really have a fire... Oh, I guess the only fire press I have is on Saturday, St. Patrick's Day. One, I was obviously just sad seeing everyone go out, and I was like, fuck, I wish I could go out again and still be able to hang. And then two, I got...

I got bagels and donuts for my family, and I got a green bagel. And then my kids were convinced that it was poisonous, and they made me eat it first. So that was kind of fucked up. That's your job. You got to eat that. And then I faked dead for like three minutes. That was kind of funny. What, Max? You're just a bad guy. Why? Because the kids were probably scared. I ate it.

I know, I know. It's like, you know, fake firing someone. Oh, the fake death you mean? Yeah, fake death. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's funny, troll. I was just laying on the ground. Yeah. My daughter was like, get up, get up. Isn't that a good precedent to set, though, that dad always eats first? Yeah. Like, you have to wait till I eat. I just thought it was kind of bullshit. Like, we should have, you know, like, drawn straws to see who could eat the poison or something like that. Yeah. Seems a little...

Like, if I go down, it's problems for everyone. All right, Max, you got a Firefest? I normally don't do Firefest. I know, but I just asked. I feel like I did have one, but I can't remember. Your entire day yesterday? Oh, yeah, DMV. That's actually what it was. DMV sucks. DMV, Illinois, makes no sense. Impossible to get an appointment because everyone's trying to get real ID. Real ID, that's a load of bullshit. Oh, are they doing it again? Yeah.

Starting May 5th. I don't have it. You need a real ID. I don't have it. And now it's impossible to get an appointment. And then you get an appointment. And then you go to the DMV. And then you still wait in line for like two hours. And then you go from one line to the next line. There's six different lines you go to at the DMV. Why can't there just be one line? You go to one person. You get everything done. And you leave. You go to eight different lines. And you get an appointment. And appointment means nothing. Good. Good. I hate the DMV. Good job, Max. People were nice, though. I will say that. I...

People at the DMV get a bad rap for being mean. The people are nice there. But too many lines. No, the people are nice because, I mean, also they have a job that's not... People aren't walking to the DMV being like, thank you so much for your customer service. So it's a thankless job. But yeah, the line situation. You just walk around everywhere.

I swear to God, I went into six different... There's a line outside to get to the line inside. Then you get to the line inside to get to the first person. And then you go... That person says you got to go take a picture. I don't know why I had to take a picture. I just took a picture three months ago. Then I have to go to another person at another desk. Then they actually fill everything out. Then you got to go to the cashier. They... You just...

just a line to pay someone and then you go to the final person and they print out your ID. There's six different lines. Too many lines. You have to take tickets at like four different places to get a number. Yeah, and then they send you right in. I ran into the Illinois Secretary of State last time I was at the DMV because I saw his picture on the wall. They made that guy look like Keir. Yeah, and then the guy that was on the wall just walked past me in the hallway and I stopped and I go...

You're that guy from the wall. And he looked at me and was like, yeah, what can I help you with? I was like, I'm trying to register my license plate on my El Camino and no one's helping me. He's like, okay, I can help you with that. They told me I couldn't put bitchin' as my license plate. Bullshit. That is bullshit. But what's the guy's name? Alexi. Alexi Janulius. Janulius. Yeah, good guy. He reached out later. Tried to make it better. He's like, I'm sorry, I can't do bitchin'. If you want his number, Max, I'll give you his number. You can complain to him. He looks like Keir.

They just have his picture as soon as you walk in. Yeah, there's candles that are lit in front of it. That's a good Fyre Fest. That was a good Fyre Fest. Shout out Hank. Thanks for reminding me of what my Fyre Fest was. I mean, that's all you talked about yesterday. I know. Hank just kept saying too much about the DMV. You get two complaints about going to the DMV. I said it like 15 times. I love it. I heard that they set up a special place downtown that you can go to just for the real ID stuff.

Yeah, I heard that. Oh, I need that. Also, the reason I went to the DMV was because when I lost my wallet when I broke my foot four months ago. Oh. So you just got it? I just got my license back. That's a bad night. Yeah. So wait, so you... I've just been driving around without a license for four months. But I have one now. Okay, so you're back. So we're going to try it. Pug just kept being worried for me. He was like...

Wait, so you really just drive around with the possibility of getting pulled over? And I'm like, it's fine, dude. It's fine. He's like, I would be freaking out. Oh, Pugs and Roof Harp. By the way, memes, are you ever going to get the bumper fixed? I'll pay for it at this point. I already paid for it. You did? No, I gave him $2,000 to get it fixed, and he just pocketed it. $2,500?

I couldn't believe it when I was watching the PMTV. So for people who don't understand, so when I got a new car in like 2018, I sold my car to Hank for $1. Hank then kind of cucked me and two years, three years later, gave the car to memes, made me look like a bad guy. $2. Oh, you did? No, actually negative $2,500 for me.

Yeah, so, but Hank got in a car accident. I drove into a pole in my garage. Yeah, it was like an eight-year-old, like it was like seven years old, the car that I sold to Hank. So it's like still got a lot of miles left and it's a good car. Great car. But yeah, Hank got in a, hit a pole a week before he sold it to memes, which was how long ago?

Before he moved to Chicago. So two years ago? Two years. And Hank gave him cash to get the bumper fixed. I went and got it estimated. They told me how much it was going to cost. And then I just gave that to memes. And memes just has duct tape on his bumper. In fairness, I would have done the same thing. The only reason I felt bad that I was giving you a damaged car. But like...

But also, if you had given if that situation had happened where you're like, oh, I just got a little fender bender. Here's some money to get it fixed. I probably would have done the same exact thing. But it's not like a little fender bender. It's a big hole on the. But it doesn't. Does it affect driving? No, not at all. I fucked up by not getting it done right away. There's duct tape like holding it together. I saw it on the PMTV with old. You know, I was just like, what the fuck? You got to get into another small car accident and then give that car to Jack.

Yeah. Well, I thought about getting it fixed one time, and then I did the thing Hank did and backed into a pole. Oh, so that's a different one? No, no, no. It's the same one, but when I thought about getting it fixed, I was like, oh, this is just going to happen again, so what's the point? I'll just wreck it again. It's been two years, by the way. It's been two years. I'm just going to get into another accident. Got a bad blind spot.

Oh, man. Yeah, that car's got to stay in PMT forever. So if we ever hire someone younger, you just give it to them. But it can never get fixed now. It's just got to have duct tape on. No, I will get it fixed. No, Mews has to give the next person $3,000. Yeah, to dent it even more. Pug, you being a little pussy about Max not having a license?

Some of us are law-abiding citizens. He is the president. They don't let presidents drive normally. Yeah, true.

I just love the pug was like worried for Max. That's very pug-like. He's like, what are you doing? So nervous. He found out on the way back from our drive from Indy. And he was like, wait a minute. So you've just been driving this whole time without a license? I was like, I have a license. It's just not on me. Pug, you should have taken it once. Wait a minute. That doesn't affect the safety of you.

What'd he say? He said, you have two other people in the car, as if I was driving drunk. Yeah. You have other people with real licenses that could not be trouble. No, I think Pug was worried about getting pulled over. Max gets found with no ID, and then in Pug's mind, the cops raid the entire car. Yeah. And you all get deported. Italians, you guys are going back to Italy. Yeah.

You kind of chill. Oh, man. Yeah. I just love Pug. You should have taken it a step further. You should have citizen citizens arrested him. You should have, like, literally put your hands on the wheel and pulled it over. Been like, get out. We're taking you downtown. You shouldn't be driving.

If it wasn't a work trip, I would have thought about it. Oh, God. Pug citizens arresting Max would be so great. Tackle him. All right. Good job, boys. Madness. Monday will be a recap of everything. Let's do numbers. Three. One. I mean, I gave you a beat. He gave you a beat. I'm going to do...

Who plays the three seeds? The 14? Mm-hmm. All right, 14. If the 14 hits, a three seed's going to lose. Okay. 99, Poe. 21. I'll go 64. I'll go 85. Oh, 81. Saw the one. 81. Sorry, memes. It's okay. One day. No. No. Love you guys.