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Jim Harbaugh, Grit Week 2024, Olympics + The Mt Rushmore Of Things Were Too Old For

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Pardon My Take的主持人:本期节目是Grit Week,内容包括对Jim Harbaugh的采访、奥运会讨论以及“你希望自己不那么老以至于无法做的事情”的排名。他们计划在Grit Week期间每天都买新衣服,但这个计划已经出了问题。他们讨论了奥运会100米短跑比赛的结果,以及诺亚·莱尔斯(Noah Lyles)的胜利;高尔夫球运动员斯科蒂·谢弗勒(Scottie Scheffler)在奥运会上的胜利以及乔恩·拉姆(Jon Rahm)的失利;美国女子足球队在奥运会上战胜了日本队;他们对NFL百强球员名单中Tyreek Hill排名第一而Patrick Mahomes排名第四表示不满;白袜队遭遇了20连败;他们对俄亥俄州立大学球迷对教练谢伦·穆尔(Sheron Moore)的指控做出了反应。 Jim Harbaugh:他将“毅力”定义为克服自我怀疑和压力时刻的能力。他谈到了重返NFL的艰难决定,以及他对密歇根大学的感情。他喜欢现在在洛杉矶的工作环境,因为每个人都非常努力地工作。他仍然坚持在训练营中实行“三条规则”:不与女友煲电话粥、不插队、不光屁股坐在别人的凳子上。在圣地亚哥执教期间,他创建了一个与代顿大学的对抗旗帜。他改变了对鸡肉的看法,因为他开始养鸡并尊重它们。他仍然希望尽可能长时间地踢足球,然后执教足球,然后死去。 Jim Harbaugh: 他分享了他对“毅力”的定义,以及重返NFL的感受,并表达了他对密歇根大学的热爱。他详细描述了他目前在洛杉矶的工作环境,并对团队成员的敬业精神表示赞赏。他还谈到了他坚持的训练营规则,以及他与代顿大学的对抗旗帜的故事。他解释了他对鸡肉看法的转变,以及他目前的生活目标。

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And it is Grit Week. Yeah, baby. We're back. The best week of the year. Yes. Football is so back, too. Like, going to training camps and just smelling football, hearing football. Hearing football, I think, is the best. It was so awesome being at Chargers training camp today. We have an awesome interview with Jim Harbaugh coming up. We also got to interview Ben Herbert, their strength and conditioning coach, which we'll release probably next week. But it's...

It is Grit Week. It feels good to be back around football. We've got some awesome interviews coming this week for the AWLs. Some big time training camps we're going to. And we all are dressed ridiculous. We are. Most of us. Most of us. We're all dressed pretty ridiculous right now. So... Everyone is. I realize the mistake we made...

So PFT was traveling all last week, and we had the idea. He was like, I don't know what to do because I'm going to be traveling, and I have no new clothes. And we came up with the very genius idea of like, hey, let's just buy new clothes every day while we're out on Grit Week. So I did this. I don't know if Max also was in Europe, so he needed new clothes. I packed a single...

I love it. Hank maybe cheated a little. He packed full clothes, but he's wearing the bought clothes by Huey today. It dawned on me, though, that they have full suitcases as well. Yeah, that's true. I have a suitcase with dirty clothes. I brought just a backpack. Max's clothes smell like France right now. You don't want that. Looking at us right now, though, it dawned on me that this only hurts me, Max and Hank.

It doesn't hurt PFT at all because he's just dressing like he always dresses. PFT has matched a thousand times better than he was earlier today when he was wearing a striped polo and polka dot shorts. Oh, Hank, when I was wearing the part of my take branded polo shirt with the Blue Mountains. It's a great shirt. Piece of shit. No, the outfit was horrible. You can have a nice shirt and if it doesn't match, you look like you got dressed in the dark.

This is green shorts with a green shirt. You look sick. I'm the first to admit, there's usually two days a week where I look like I accidentally dressed like a six-year-old. I'm going to kindergarten, basically. I look like Bryce Young walking in a barstool. I get it. It was my last set of clothes that I had available. Actually, what's messed up is last night, I set that out. I had two options of what to wear, and I was like...

This is my better outfit. So I'll set this out for tomorrow. Oh, you went with your winner. I went with my better outfit. Yeah. The other was a Lemmy from Motorhead t-shirt and pink shorts. So this was the winner. Either way, if we all walked down into and like walked down and saw each other first thing in the morning,

Everyone would be like, what the fuck are you wearing, Max? What the fuck are you wearing, Hank? What the fuck are you wearing, Big Cat? And everyone would be like, oh, PFT's dressed. I'm just wearing a John Cena shirt. I actually do own these shorts. I have these same shorts, but they're... Well, those are just normal shorts. They're darker blue. Those are normal shorts. The pants we're wearing... The pants for the...

Between me, Big Cat, and Hank versus BFT is insane. Insane. Max looks like... I'm wearing the Super Bowl pants. You look like you're... We're fine. Dude, I'm wearing a generic football jersey. I don't even know what this is. I actually like Max's outfit. He looks like...

This looks like something that you would wear. You look like a guy that runs a disco in Scooby-Doo. He looks like a cop from the 70s, like a movie about a cop from the 70s, and they cut to a scene where they're having a barbecue. Yeah, but he also looks like a guy who just was in Amsterdam, and he was like, oh, I'm back, and I'm not doing this American dressing anymore.

That's where you are. You look like a drug dealer. You look like a guy in Amsterdam. They'd be like, hey, five bucks. She'll give you the best night of your life. You look like Euromax right now. You're standing on the street corner. Euromax. So Huey's dressing us. This is day one. So the nice thing about... I knew that when I walked out here, you guys were going to say, well, PFT doesn't look any different than he normally does. You look better. Yeah, it's great. I look better maybe. But the thing that you don't notice here that I thought somebody would bring up is

is they got me a crop top shirt, but the crop top, it looks like a normal t-shirt on me. And I thought that you guys would bring that up. Yeah. But fortunately, I guess just my normal ridiculous look covered up for the fact that I'm short. And we're going back to Chargers camp tomorrow for another interview dressed like this. And we have some other big interviews coming up that we're going to be dressed equally as ridiculous. I stand out the most in my outfit for sure, correct?

Yeah, I mean, Hank does have child pornography on his shirt. Dude, I'm wearing a football jersey. What are you talking about? But it's football. You're a football guy. You're wearing a football jersey. I look like I'm going to a NASCAR event. Well, the top half of me does. The bottom half, I don't know what I am. PFT said I'm wearing bell bottoms. I can just say that I woke up late and had to run out to the RV and didn't have time to change. Yeah, you just woke up. You were just...

Like, oh man, I'm a little groggy. This is what I wear. I wear my Snoopy. This is what I wear to eat breakfast and then I get changed for the days. That is on brand for Hank. Hank looks like he's still in bed right now.

Do you want to hear the funny Hank story? I do, more than anything. You want to hear it? Yeah. Max heard it. Yeah, whatever. No, this is a funny Hank story. I want to hear the funny Hank story. And we'll talk about sports in a second. Can I tell you the funny Hank story? This is vintage. This is going to be vintage. Hank, I don't want you interrupting, trying to gaslight the audience. I want to hear what actually happened. You stop me when I'm wrong. I'm on Hank's side for this, though. But you stop me when I'm wrong.

But it's just funny coming from Hank, but I'm on Hank's side. Just to set the stage. I'll set the stage with, like, this is what we do all the time. Okay, all right, all right. We talk about schedules all the time. But the timing of it was very fun. Tell the story. The timing of it was very funny. So last week was vacation. Hank just got back from vacation. And the week before. And the week before. Hank just got back from vacation. Saturday he text. We flew Saturday.

Saturday night, we're flying out. Can you let Big Cat tell the story? Sorry. Hank texts me. I'm... A work trip. I'm pulling up to O'Hare, and I get a text from Hank, and he goes, I want to get ahead of something. I'm really... Fucking hate Hank. I'm really drunk right now. He texts me that Saturday. It's like 6 p.m. He's just like, I just want to get ahead of this. I'm really drunk right now. I was like, I don't care. Whatever. So then he shows up. We're about to board. He walks up. Again, we had just got off vacation.

First thing he says to me, he goes, not very. Yeah, I was pretty much the first. Not long after it was. It was like, hey, what's up? How you feeling? And then he said this. He said, I was looking at Christmas week and how many days we could have off.

No, I was thinking about the show schedule. That was the first thing. He pulled up his calendar. He's like, look at the Christmas week. I was just like, we just got done with the vacation. What are you planning, Hank? Yellow trip? No, I mean, I was literally sitting at my house on Saturday doing nothing. Just wondering about Christmas vacation. And I'm looking at the calendar. I'm just curious, looking at the calendar. And again, like part of, obviously, I do love vacations. I'm a huge vacation supporter. That is, you know, a vacation week.

But I was thinking about the show and like, you know, obviously depending on when Christmas and New Year's is,

How we do the shows differentiates because I understand this concept. I was throwing out ideas because there's a world where we could get two weeks. Yeah, it's like it's the perfect Christmas, New Year's. We get two weeks off. That is sweet. I'll get Hanks back on this. When you're in school as a kid and you see that Christmas and New Year's lines up magically where you get magical vacation. That's great. The difference is we're not in elementary school right now. And football is our job. Yeah.

And there's a lot of football being played in those two weeks, including the entire college football playoffs. There's Christmas Day games. I had it all planned out, and Big Cat won't even let me get out my words. Because I was like, it goes through two Sundays. College football playoffs. I wasn't saying we're taking those weeks off. There's a world where we record Sunday.

I'm not going to get into that. I'm on Hank's side here. I'm looking at it now. We always have to record on Christmas Eve and Christmas, which sucks that we have to do that. This year, we don't have to do it.

Like there isn't going to be Christmas Eve games, right? There's going to be Christmas Day games Yeah, but that's a Wednesday So we'll record on Thursday Like that does rock And I'm on your side But again, it's just the fun of like Hank was trying to get two weeks off We're in the first week of August And he's just like I've been looking at the Christmas schedule Well, it's also very fitting The start of Grit Week The hardest working week of the year He comes in hot with planning a vacation six months from now Or an outlet While drunk Yeah Oh, you're going to do that?

Go ahead. Be Franny Lydon for a second. This is our second Grit Week in LA that we've done. So we... Yeah, I'm sure there'll be people who'll be like, why didn't you go to the Rust Belt again? Although there was a lot of people who were mad that we did Buffalo and Detroit last year again. We go where the interviews take us. It's like, if you build it, they will come. And we are going to three different training camps and have...

Six unbelievable interviews coming. So that's what we're doing. And we also are going to find ways. What's grittier than the Pacific Ocean? Nothing.

Maybe there's a lot of things. But we're going to try to surf tomorrow, and I'm very worried about that. Yeah. That's where the Mariana Trench is, lowest pad level on Earth. Yeah. We asked Huey if he knows how to swim, and he said, I haven't drowned yet. Yeah. Shout out, Huey. I've swam within seven to eight years ago. Within the last seven or eight years. What the hell? In a pool, in a controlled environment, I'm good. Yeah, he does. This is the Pacific Ocean. So who knows what's going to happen? We said, Huey, do you know how to swim? And he goes-

I think so, which is not the ideal answer. I mean, I want to. We're going to get you in floaties tomorrow in the ocean. Either way, people, they'll be haters for anything. I can just trust us that we have some awesome interviews. And we've also been on an awesome interview kick. Oh, yeah. Forever. We were going through the takeys. I was going through episodes to think of stuff that happened last year, and I went through our last summer...

And we were just scratching and clawing for anything. Yes. This summer has just been nonstop. That was a transition. No, I know. It was funny when I, you know, you didn't think about it. But I was looking back and I was like, oh, wow. Like, if you compared last summer's guests to this summer's, it's... Night and day. Yeah, it's way different. It's crazy. Big Cat, you do look funny, though. You look like a cop. Like showing up undercover in an ICP concert. No, I'm a cop at Alpine Valley where there's just all the undercover cops go. I'm at a Phish concert being like, hey.

Who's got the cool balls. We should say, by the way, we need an AWL's house for Hard Knocks. So Tuesday night is the premiere of Hard Knocks. Bears Hard Knocks. I'm very excited. AWL, Costa Mesa. Give us Costa Mesa. That's where we'll be in that approximate area. So where are they going to, who are they going to contact?

Huey? I don't know about that. Who are they going to reach out to? I think it's got to be Huey. It's got to be Huey? I impress Huey. Our usual criteria is it's always better if it's a couple. Yep. We need a male, female. Male, female. Or male, male. Or male, male. Or female. Oh, Hank. Yeah, I get freaky with it. Oh, baby. Okay. How many extra chromosomes do we need, Hank? I said male, male first. Yeah, but you...

Yeah, we'd like it to be a couple. Generally less creepy that way. And preferably a dog. Yeah, dog. So there it is. Those are our criteria. Or we would make an exception if Rebecca Romaine Stamos... Excuse me, Rebecca Romaine O'Connell... Yes. ...wanted us at her place. Yes, so include a picture of your watch set up because that will take out a few people who just don't follow directions. The email is...

Yeah, go ahead. PMTHardknocks at gmail.com. Okay, so PMTHardknocks at gmail.com, Costa Mesa area. We want to come to your house and watch Hard Knocks on Tuesday night. It's one of our favorite things we do every Grit Week. It's awesome. Remember the time we went to...

A house in Milwaukee And the girl was a big fan And her boyfriend was like Who are these dudes that are invited into our house That was wild She was like I'm a huge fan And the guy was like didn't want anything to do with this Alright I'll be upstairs It was crazy And for some reason she asked us to show up Just bringing a bunch of pineapples It was really strange Yeah

Uh, so, uh, guy, girl, or Hank would like to fuck girl, girl. Uh, no fucking, no fucking guy, guy. No. First. Yeah. Yeah. Guy, guy's his first choice. You did the guy, guy. Well, I wasn't trying to. Rank your choices. Rank your choices. Rank your choices. You look like you're doing math right now. Yeah, what the hell? Just say it. Are you counting holes? Rank your choices. Guy, guy would be honestly hilarious. It would be very funny. Okay.

Girl, girl would also be hilarious. Yes. And then guy, girl. Okay. Okay. Okay. And dog. We want a dog. What about guy, girl, guy? No, that never works. Yeah. Okay. What about...

All right. So, yeah. Tuesday night we're going to watch Costa Mesa area. We'll be down there. We'll bring the bus. It's going to be great. What else do we have? Grit week is – we're ready to go. It's upon us. Chargers training camp was awesome today. We did – we'd be remiss if we didn't say how nice the facility was, the building. We interviewed the building today. Yep. I think that building is worth five wins at least just on building alone for the Chargers. Yep. We got our neck strength tested by Coach Ben Herbert. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I got the strongest neck out of the three of us. Yeah, great neck. Big cat, great neck. Great neck. I think he thought we were all pussies, though. Yeah, of course, of course. Well, we are. Yeah, well, yeah, that's true as well. All right, let's talk some sports.

Should we talk some sports? Should we talk some Olympics? Let's talk Olympics. 100-meter dash? Where do we want to start? What? 100-meter dash? 100-meter dash? 100 yard? No, 100-meter. 100-meter. 100-meter. Noah Lyles with...

Painted fingernails. Could it be the year of painted fingernails? Wins by .05 of a second. We all watched it, and we still don't really understand. We're like, this looks like the Jamaican guy won. The announcer said that as well. Completely ruined the moment by saying, and Jamaican...

The Jamaican takes it But Noah Lyles backed it up Because he was talking a lot of shit He was talking a lot this week If that Jamaican guy had been a French pole vaulter He would have won That's how close it was His head crossed the line I think it was .0005 It was a period of time that doesn't exist Ahead of the Jamaican guy And I guess Noah Lyles Big anime guy Big UGO guy Dragon Ball Z He

He called his shot too because he was – there was a big deal. He finished second in his first – in the first like quarterfinals or whatever it was. And he was like 12th overall, ran real slow, over 10 seconds. And everyone was just bashing him, being like, this guy sucks now. He even said – he was like, yeah, it's the Olympics. Everyone's going to give me my best shot. I should probably run a little harder. Yeah. And then he went and won the 100 meters and USA's on top.

In gold medals, I think, and total medals. We just dominate. We're tied with China for gold. China. We're smoking them and everything else. Yeah, that's true. It's a big, big day for just declaring people to be on Mount Rushmore. And apparently before Noah Lyles went over in an interview, he said, I'm envisioning myself returning home as a gold medalist, and that puts me on Mount Rushmore. Hell yes. Yes.

Him and Joe Biden. A lot of people. A lot of people going on Mount Rushmore these days. Nancy Pelosi is literally trying to end Mount Rushmore season. It's tough. We won't let her. Yeah. She probably shorted Mount Rushmore's and then talked about it. Now she's going to buy. She's going to buy. You did mention the French pole vaulter who, if everyone missed it, had he basically got disqualified or whatever. The bar came down because his dick was too big. Yeah. Which-

kind of the best way to lose? Because everyone's like, oh, your dick was too big? Now everyone knows your dick's too big? It's without a doubt the best way to lose. And he's from France, so...

if he was from another country where they circumcised, he probably would have been fine. Yeah, that's true. I think it was actually his balls more than anything. I think it was his hog. It was whole package. I think it was the dick. Yeah. Djokovic is the goat. One gold. It wasn't on TV. Couldn't watch it. No big deal. On Clay.

Beat Nadal, beat the whole country of Spain. I was there. You were there? I was there. For the winning? For Djokovic? No, you said he beat Nadal. Oh, yeah, when he beat Nadal. We had also Jon Rahm with an all-time choke, and Scotty Scheffler is Captain America, so he won gold. It was Jon Rahm...

Was plus five on the back nine. Scotty Scheffler was minus six on the back nine. He shot a 62 today. Minus 600 with eight holes. If John Rahm had shot par on the back nine, he would have won by a stroke.

And he ended up losing. He came in fifth. He did a medal, yeah. Yeah. Scotty Shuffler, what a beast. He also, I think he won $38,000. I think that was the purse for today. Really? Yeah. And he won like a gold. His caddy won $3,800 today. Not sponsored by Liv? No. No. He got the gold medal and they gave him like a cube.

A gold cube? Yeah. Is that everyone that's getting that, or is that just golfer? That was the first time I saw someone holding it. It looked like something that a villain would steal and die hard and bury underneath the Statue of Liberty. It was like a piece of gold from Fort Knox that he got to go home with. Good for Scotty. Where was the course today, Hank? Do you know? I think it was the same place that the Ryder Cup was at. Oh. Oh, so it is actually right next to Versailles then, which is the original Louisville. Mm-hmm.

I might have just made that up. Yeah, I think you did. Okay. But that's okay. Sky Scheffler is the man. He is the man. Captain America. Le Golf National. Wait, it's called Le Golf? Le Golf National. People were trying to make the Olympic gold as the fifth major. I mean, it's that one in Connecticut, right? They were giving Djokovic- Travelers? Travelers. Oh, the road to Dubai. Yeah, that's true. But Djokovic did the career Grand Slam. Yeah. So-

If it's the fifth major for tennis, I feel like it kind of is. But they don't have the Travelers in tennis.

True. But they probably do. They might. Or the players. They might. They might. Also, Team USA lost to Mickey Mouse in the mixed. I didn't even know they did mixed relays. Pretty cool. But we lost to the Netherlands and Mickey Mouse. I don't know if you guys have heard this woman's voice. Nothing will prepare you for it, but here it is. You know exactly what to do indoors. How was that for you?

That's her real voice. It sounds like one of us doing a girl's voice. Yeah. Which is amazing. She also looks exactly like Pete Holmes' wife in Crashing. Yes. Lauren Lapkus. I saw her. Yeah, she does a lot. It's weird to hear, even weirder to look at.

We should not be losing. I feel like for as long as I've been an adult person watching the Olympics, we always dominate the 4x100, except for Jamaica that one time. But I feel like that's our thing, that we should dominate it. It's sad to see. The U.S. women's soccer team won. That was a great game. No, they beat Japan.

Trinity Rodman. Trinity Rodman scoring goals all over. Where are we in the tournament? I think semifinals now. Okay. Our basketball team's going to win gold. Our draw is insane. Yeah, pretty good. Everyone good is on the other side of the bracket, so that's a wrap. And Embiid dominated. Yeah, he did. He had a good game. Yeah, he did. I told you. He had a good game. He scored easy buckets off easy assists. You didn't tell us because you released a video that you were addressing all these things that we just didn't say.

Well, you were going to. No, we weren't. I went back and listened. You guys just wanted me to get mad first, but you were going to make fun of him. But I thought you were going to make fun of him and then kick it to me. I think if we're doing the... I was mad. Let's look at the team as a whole. I would say that Embiid is having a much better Olympics than Tatum. I didn't say that. They both have one did not play. Max, do you want to address... The country. Where's your patriotism? Well, you're saying that because you know I'm right.

No, I'm saying if all that matters is wrong, you would be fighting. No, all that matters isn't gold because we already won gold. We're playing for basically who can be the best on Team USA. It was the Ryder Cup course in 2018. Okay, nice. Oh, 2018. Okay. Max, would you like to address the fact that the Phillies suck?

They won today. Okay. And they lost six. I actually was thinking... You're only as good as your last game. I was thinking about it. Is there a chance that you, like, cursed... You took a week off. You were off on vacation, and the Phillies didn't win a game for the entire time you were off. That's crazy. So, I know that sometimes you think that, like, this show is a curse to you because you just keep finishing second. What if...

In a weird twist of fate, if you ever left PMT, you actually would lose everything. I thought about that. Like, be a loser like us. And also, MB didn't play. Yeah. There was a lot of bad things that were happening to Philly sports while I was gone. And there were a couple moments where I was just like...

Sitting thinking and getting angry And I was like I can't be angry right now I can't let this bother me right now You can't be angry while you're holding a baguette So many baguettes So much cheese You forgot one important Team Your Philadelphia Waterdogs Have been eliminated from the playoffs They suck I think it's fire everybody They suck dude They were down 11-0 on Saturday They suck

It starts with us. They're turning me into Dan Snyder. Yeah, but it actually does start with Max because they are the Philadelphia Waterdogs. We never were this bad when we were just the Waterdogs. Well, before we got Max, we won a championship. Then we got Max. They came in second. But yeah, Max, you might be – like on this show, the series of heartbreak that you've had for Philadelphia sports, you might be completely like maxing out Philly's ability. This is like as good as it gets. Right. So Philadelphia should be thanking me?

Well, you're not winning anything still, but you can just never leave us. Okay. Is what we're basically saying. Also, I'd like to apologize to you guys, if I could. When we went into this... For not texting me after my big, horrific fall and seeing if I was okay? Would fall. Would fall. Did you fall? When I fell on my ass? Did you fall? Yeah, I felt really bad. I felt really bad. Are you okay?

Thank you for asking. Are you all right? I am. Okay. Yeah. Did you break anything? I almost broke my wrist and my telephone. You basically have a broken hand. Pretty much. Like LeBron. But yes. No, but I'd like to apologize because going into baseball season, we were trying to figure out which team to bet against every single day. Oh, this is my who's back.

Okay. Yeah, it's my who's back. All right. Yep. It's my who's back. We'll talk about it. Every day. I have some stats. Every day I think about it. Every single day. Yeah, because that team was actually mentioned. But yes, it's my who's back. Do you guys want to get mad about a list? Yep. Okay. Tyree Kill was named number one NFL player. And Patrick Mahomes is number four. Yes.

Insane. And Tyreek Hill won't even race speed. That's true. He's a coward. Yeah, he is. I don't understand this list. I mean, I get it because they're trying to make people mad. But no, because this is... Who voted on it? I think the players voted on it. So this is just hater? I think, yeah. It's because there's a lot of teams that despise Patrick Mahomes because he beats them. You can't have a top one. Lamar and Christian McCaffrey. I think it's Christian McCaffrey, then Lamar.

You can't have a top 100 list of NFL players and not have Patrick Mahomes number one. Correct. Right now. Mahomes should be number one. Tyreek should be anywhere between two and four. Fine. But Mahomes is number one. But the gap between one and two is significant. Right. It makes no sense. Yeah, it's just people that have lost to Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. And it also opens up... Like, if I were a Dolphins fan...

I actually wouldn't want to have Tyreek Hill be the number one player because it just opens up Chiefs fans to be like, all we care about is rings. Yeah. And then they can just do that to everyone. Well, hypothetically, what would happen if the Chiefs ever played against the Dolphins in the playoffs? What would the weather be? Pretty cold. It wouldn't go well for the Dolphins. Okay. It would not go well for the Dolphins. It would be helmet-breaking cold. Yes, it would not go well for the Dolphins. All right, what else in the sports world? Hall of Fame inductions were this weekend. Devin Hester.

That was pretty cool. He said, I'm hopefully the first of many to get in. Yeah. And he said, I'm the best of all time. And he is. He is the best. Yeah. That's not even a question. Steve McMichael, obviously battling ALS. Very sad, but great that he got the recognition. Yeah. Julius Peppers. Who else? Patrick Willis. Isn't it basically going to be impossible for another kicker turner to get in? I think he was talking about Josh Cribs and... Brian Mitchell. Yeah. Yeah.

Maybe Dante Hall. Dante Hall, human joystick. I feel like he was – the career was too short for Dante Hall. Yeah, he was. But, yeah, it was very fitting that Devin Hester went in on the weekend that, like, started the new era of kicks. Although the new kick is supposed to allow for more returns. I think we've been thinking too much, myself included, about how teams are going to take advantage of it on the return. Yeah.

I think it's going to be a bigger advantage for the kicking team to do it than the returning team. I feel like a smart special teams coach is going to be able to pin them with like a fucked up kick every kickoff. Yeah, a really high kick. Wait, you can fair catch though? I'm not sure. You probably can, yeah. You can fair catch basically anything. This is the second show in a row where we don't know these rules. No, that makes sense. You can fair catch anything. There hasn't been more games.

Yeah, true. We haven't seen it enough. Yeah, my prediction for this NFL season, I think people are going to really hate the kickoff because we hate new things until we just get used to it and then we're like, oh, it's fine. It's basically the same. We get the same amount of returns. Yeah, exactly. It does technically, if you go to the NFL website, it says promotes more returns. Okay. So we'll believe them. Pure property. You're saying they'd lie? Yes.

I think eventually it'll be better. I think overall it's going to be better, but because it's new, people are going to hate it. Correct. We hate everything new. Yeah. That's a fact.

Okay, any other sports stories? I've got one thing I want to get ahead of. I alluded this to Hank earlier. Over the course of the weekend, we were in Nashville. Pup Punk played at the Barstool Nashville Bar. And it was a great time. I had a blast. Before the show, I was getting my guitar tuned up. I was setting up the amp, all that stuff. And a lady came up to me on the side of the stage. She was probably, I'm going to guess, 45, maybe 50 years old.

She was very obviously there on a bachelorette party, which is the number one reason people go to Nashville. And the beer games. And the beer games, of course. And she came up to me and she was saying something. I walked over to her. I was like, what's that? And she was like motioning over. She's like, I'm on a bachelorette party. It's a scavenger. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Got finished setting some stuff up and she was still there like, come here, come here. So I walked over to her and she was like, put your number in my phone.

And I said, I can't do that. I was like, I'm not, I'm not going to give you my number. And then she was like, I just need it for scavenger hunt. Please just give me your number. I was like, I don't know. I can't, I can't check this off. Like you're going to have to find somebody else to ask.

Then she's like, just put in any number. I don't care. So I can just check it off and say that I did. So I reached over and just hit in 10 random numbers. There were people that had cameras out at the time. You should have put in 911. And it might look like I gave a 50-year-old woman my number.

Wanted to just get ahead of this That's not what happened So in case that video comes out I'm ahead of it That's good That's what we call getting ahead of a story That's smart Yeah See this is the Nashville Barstool Bar Yes Any other videos you want to get ahead of? What? At the Nashville Barstool Bar Alright no I think we're good Huey? Anything? Okay we're good You should have put in 911 I should have put in 911 And then just hit dial Yeah Was she hot?

I think, uh... Why'd you give her my number? Yeah. Your number? Well, Hank, I thought you'd be busy. There was another crazy plane lady that went viral this weekend. Yeah, that's true. I thought maybe you'd be reaching out to her. You see the naked plane lady? Yeah. Totally nude. Totally nude. Wait, was this one or not? I think maybe back in her day. Okay. Yeah. Cannons? I don't know. Respectfully, I did not look. Respectfully? Yeah. Respectfully. Respectfully.

Nancy Pelosi should have just done a press conference being like, my cannons are on the Mount Rushmore. Yeah. And like, okay. Yeah, just put them like underneath Abraham Lincoln. Yeah.

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He was planning his vacation earlier. He was planning his vacation. No, his league is disgrace. Oh. Okay. Our three-on-three basketball team got eliminated. He sucked. Disgraceful. So bad. Jimmer was hurt, right? I'm going to blame this on Jimmer being hurt. I think he played. No, Jimmer's hurt. He did not play against Lithuania. I don't know if he played the last game. We were 0-2, then he didn't play, then we lost again. I think we won one game. I don't even know. How the fuck is this possible? Also, why don't we just send our...

Why isn't Jalen Brown in three and three? I think it's like a different type of training. I don't know. It's disgraceful. No, it's basketball. Yeah, like Peyton Pritchard. Like, just send our next three guys. Wait, once we're over there and we got guys like Jason Tatum and Joel Embiid that can't get minutes, why don't we just put them over on the three and three? That's what I'm saying. Joel Embiid, it's a fast-paced game. That's true. He's too fat to go all the way to the three-point line and back. It's insane that we lost this early. We didn't even make it to the knockout stage. No.

Disgrace. Absolute disgrace. Why isn't Golke on the team? Good question. There's a lot of people. I think they're going to have to bring Coach K in and save our country again. Yeah, probably. We should take our best basketball-playing football players. The women's three-on-three team does have WNBA players. So why the fuck don't we have NBA players in our three-on-three? Yeah, that's not good.

All right, what's going on? What's going on? Hey, Max. I just thought it was funny. Huey, like, loves talking about WNBA. Oh, yeah. No matter what. He loves it. If who's back's coming up, Huey's talking about the WNBA. He's got a WNBA fact for us. All right, PFT, who's your who's back? My who's back of the week is John Gruden.

John Gruden was at Chiefs practice today. He's also a beast on Cameo. Is he? Really? What's he doing? Number one on Cameo. Let's get a Cameo. How much is he? Gotta be expensive. We should actually try to do a full interview with him on Cameo. Yeah. Oh, fuck. That would rule.

Yes. Yeah, let's get John Greer. Let's just do a full, full interview and we'll run it. Yeah, full. All right. Okay, we're going to do that. Let's write like 15 questions. Can we just be like- $130? This is going to be the most expensive interview we've ever done. One of the questions should just be, or we write his answers for him, right? So one of his answers should just be the text of one of the emails that he sent. Good question.

Yeah. Thanks. Good question. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. We're going to do that. But yeah, he was at Chiefs practice today. He was wearing a Chiefs uniform and he was advising Chiefs coaches. Whoa. So I think John Gruden might be secretly on the Chiefs coaching staff now. He's dipping his toe? I think he's dipping. He's dipping more than that. Wow. He's like mid-shaft right now with the Chiefs. And he used to work with Andy in England.

in green Bay, right? I believe so. So I feel like Andy Reed would be the guy. If there's any coach right now in the NFL that does not give a fuck what the, what the league office thinks about them, it's probably Andy Reed. Yeah. He's too successful. Yeah. Um, touchable. John Gruden would be fun to have back. Uh, I thought you were going to maybe do your who's back, uh,

rfk jr can you explain the bear thing oh the bear thing yeah so this doesn't make any sense it's kind of a fun story and he got out ahead of it just like i got ahead of the the old woman story but um so from what i understand is rfk jr he uh back in the day he was driving behind his friend they were going on a hunting trip okay the car in front of him ran over a bear a bear cub like a young bear and then rfk jr pulled over

picked the bear up, put it in the back of his van. This is not very Kennedy-like of him. Yeah, going back to help something. That might have been him. Yeah, so stepping out a little bit on that. So he put the bear in the back of his van because he was going to skin it and then take the meat later. Naturally. Well, because he had a bear license, as one does. Okay. So he then proceeds to go back to New York and

He forgets he's got a steak dinner at Peter Luger's. So he's like, okay, I'll just duck in for the steak real quick. I'll leave the dead bear in the back of my van. No big deal. Go inside, eat the steak dinner. Then the dinner ran a little bit long. Okay. So he goes back and he's like, oh crap, I got to get to the airport. I don't know what I'm going to do with this dead bear cub that I've got in the back of my van. So then he drives with his buddies that he was just drinking with or they were drinking and

He drives with them. Now it's getting more Kennedy-like. Yeah, yeah. So they get in the car and they have a great suggestion that he says he played along with, which was to take the bear to Central Park and stage it and make it look like a bicycle ran into it and killed the bear cub. Okay. It's a pretty common prank. And many, many bear cubs in Central Park. A lot of them, yeah. So this is going to be a funny thing they were doing with the boys. This actually is like a guys being dudes moment. Yeah. Like somebody has a bad idea.

All your friends are hammered. And then you think that it's a good idea for some reason. So then he drives the bear, the dead bear cub to Central Park, stages it to make it look like it got run over by a bicycle, which I guess would kill a bear. But at the time, there were a bunch of like bike related fatalities in New York City. Okay. So they were doing that as a joke about like all the bicyclists hitting people. They're like, even they're hitting bears now. Oh.

Oh, it was a comment on site. It was satire. Yeah, right. Yeah, so they put the bear there, and then the next day on the news, they wake up, and they turn it on, and it's like national news that a bear cub got run over by a bike, and it's a crime scene. And for the last... I don't know what...

What's the date on this? Can somebody look that up, like, when it happened? But ever since then, it's been, like, a big mystery. How did this bear cub die in Central Park? Turns out that RFK Jr. put it there. And how did we find this story out today? So we found out today because RFK Jr. was doing a podcast earlier.

with uh rosanne barr okay and so he found out that the new yorker was going to write a story about it okay so he was getting ahead of the story by telling rosanne the whimsical story about how he ran how he hid the bear carcass in central park oh my god 10 years ago 10 years ago yeah yeah so like for the last 10 years new yorkers have been wondering what happened what happened with this bear turns out rfk jr what if we find out that rfk jr had a hand in flacko the owl

It's a possibility. That could be a possibility. Yeah, let's not put anything past him at this point. Close that case yet. So get ahead of that one. What an insane headline. Yeah, pretty wild. Okay, I think. I don't care at all. Yeah. But it's still a cool story. Yeah. So like here. I actually appreciate what RFK Jr. is doing in this political season where everything has been very intense and he's

he's just like coming out with stories left and right about being a weirdo. Yeah. I mean, there was the famous when, when a reporter asked if there was any more sexual allegation things coming out about him, he just said, we'll see. Yeah. Which is a hell of an answer. He's had, he's been on a heater too. Like the brain worms thing. Wait, do we think he, we don't think he killed the bear.

He claims that he didn't. Because that part feels... He says that there was a car in front of him that... It sounds like Billy Football, the way he's like, yeah, this dude killed a bear and I got it. They both kind of believe a lot of the same things politically. But if you hit a bear and you kill it, and I'm assuming you're going to notice that it's going to hit your car and probably cause some damage. Right. Do you just keep going or do you pull over and you're like, what the fuck was that?

Yeah, I don't know. That's why that part doesn't really, and I don't really, I don't think you see a bear get hit and then pull over immediately being like, ooh, I want this bear. I want this bear meat, and I want to skin it. It's a bear cub? I want to skin this bear cub, yeah. That doesn't feel like a lot of meat.

That's also a valid point. And would you want like a bear cub skin in your house? Like if you're going to... There's nothing cooler than having like the bear that's standing up looking like it's going to kill you. A little baby bear. But like a tiny little bear is kind of a fucked up thing. Yeah. That might be a bigger red flag than putting in the back of your van. Then you put in the back of your van like it's a hostage for 15 hours and you're like, oh, I can't leave it in my van because it'll smell. Let's drive from...

Brooklyn to Central Park to drop it off. This story doesn't really make sense anymore. And it makes all the sense in the world to me. Okay. My who's back. I got two of them. First is, we were alluding to it, the Chicago White Sox, who are on a 20-game losing streak. Now, PFT, you mentioned it, but...

We did have the debate before the season, should we bet against the A's or the White Sox? Yeah, it came down to those two teams. And we chose incorrectly because we are betting against the A's every day, and I think we're down eight units, which isn't disastrous. But the White Sox have lost 20 games in a row.

They have also have a streak of 14 losses in a row. They're 16 or sorry, 60 games under 500. If you just erased their 14 game losing streak and their 20 game losing streak, they would still have the worst winning percentage in baseball this year.

And we'd be rich. And we'd be rich. If you took their 20-game losing streak and 14-game losing streak and magically made them a 20-game winning streak and a 14-game winning streak, they would only go up one spot in the AL Central. It's bad. That's how bad they are. They are so, so bad. I mean, here's another one.

The last White Sox win was closer in time to the Celtics winning the NBA Finals than to right now. That's bad. That's really bad. I feel bad for White Sox. Part of the reason why we didn't bet against the White Sox every day, or at least me, why I didn't really want to do that was because New in Chicago...

I'm trying to enjoy the city. A great way to make enemies here is by hating all their sports teams. But it turns out we should have done it because White Sox fans hate the White Sox more than anyone at this point. I know. Because Jerry Reinsdorf has completely made like this. It's a joke.

The, uh, there's another one. This is from Jay Kuda. Only two managers in baseball history have at least 200 games managed for the same team and a winning percentage under three 33, which is insane. Winning percentage, Pedro Graffal and a guy named Dr. James Prothrow, who was a licensed dentist who managed the Phillies during world war two.

Love that. That guy had to manage the team because everyone was fighting the Nazis. Yeah. And then it's Pedro Grafal. Stepped up. That's insane. I'm not the step coach. I'm the coach that stepped up. Yeah, it's one of my great regrets in life. Yeah. Not fading the White Sox every single day this year. What would you... If you, at the start of this losing streak, if you had bet $100 on them and then you let it ride, what would that total be? I don't know. Someone's going to have that step. We're not math guys. That's going to make us really bummed out. Yeah. 21, I think, is the record. Yeah, so...

What are they at, 19 now? No, they're at 20. They're at 20 now. Yeah, they're at 20. Every time I see this happen, I just think of how much more money I would have. They're so bad, it's like getting to a point, too, where they're basically circling the rotations, where I think they played the Twins. I think they just finished playing the Twins, or maybe they were playing the Twins this weekend, or maybe it was during the week, but

There was a game August 3rd where the last time they won a game was against Bailey Ober on the Twins, and then they were facing Bailey Ober again like three weeks later. And 60 games out is so many games. So many games out. It's ridiculous. 27 wins. 27 wins, and we're in August. It's insane. And then my other who's back is – I don't know if you guys saw this. It was – I'm setting myself up for some insults, but –

There was an account called Brooksgate that did a thread of all of the most retweeted and liked tweets of all time by NFL teams.

Did you guys see this? So there was some good ones in there. The Bears one was welcome to the Chicago Bears, Justin Fields. That hurt a little. The Bills and the Bengals had – it was all about DeMar, sending thoughts to DeMar. Yeah.

Cowboys one was Jerry Jones taking a knee, which we forgot that he did that. Oh, no, it's so great. Yeah. And then the one that really hurt me, Hank, you'll get a laugh out of this. The Packers one is actually, I think, the oldest one on this. And it just says it's 42 to nothing Packers with 14 seconds left in quarter two. That was a game we watched together where Aaron Rodgers. That was before they juiced Twitter numbers. Yeah, that's from 2014.

I don't know what the Commanders won. Oh, the Commanders was when you guys broke the Steelers' undefeated season. That's right, yeah. That was a pretty good one. The worst 11-0 team of all time, those Steelers. Yeah. What about the Chargers' P.F. Changs? Oh, I don't think the Chargers' P.F. Changs was on there. Patriots has got to be a 28-3 one. The Patriots was something about Tom Brady. Oh, the Eagles one was a big-time cuck one.

Said, time's yours, Andy, after he won the Super Bowl in 2020. Oh, no. That's brutal. The number one liked, favorited tweet by the Eagles is celebrating someone else's Super Bowl. We respect Andy. I love Andy. I'm happy that he won the Super Bowl. You can't. Sorry, no respect. Yours, Patriots, was congratulations to the greatest of all time. Oh, that's another one. That was after the Bucs won the Super Bowl. Brutal. Brutal. Yep.

Just piece that together. Big time cuck energy over there. I thought the Patriots one would be when they accidentally tweeted out a racial slur. I was just backing up. I was like, they don't know anything about respect. The saddest one. Organizations and you're just trying to be an asshole. That's big time ACC congratulating Katie Ledecky. Yeah. Stanford University. Yeah. The saddest one besides obviously the...

One I mentioned about the Packers just shitting on the Bears was the Dolphins. Can you guess what the Dolphins one was? It has to do with their new quarterback or their new contract for their quarterback. Noctua. No. It says...

Tua has been taken to a local hospital for further evaluation. He is conscious and has movement in all his extremities. Okay, so that was probably also big prayers up. Yeah, but that was the most likely retreat. I think it was after he got, I think it was the Bengals game when he got really concussed. What did the Panthers be? Oh, the Panthers. Let's see. It's a fun little trip down memory lane. Oh, yeah, the Jaguars. Happy Jeans Friday, everyone. Jaguars had a good one about just like shitting on the Steelers.

I'm looking for the Panthers. I'm looking for the Panthers. Someone give me a line. Oh, Panthers. It was Lou Keekly retiring. Okay, thank you. There was a lot of that. Yeah, yeah. A lot of that. And then, obviously, DeMar had a lot. Okay, Huey, your who's back? Yeah, my who's back is Ohio State fans back on their bullshit after all the allegations coming out today of Coach Moore. Findings? Yeah.

Findings? No, it's allegations. What were the findings? He deleted a couple text messages in regard to Connor Stallions and his possible knowledge on the situation. 52 text messages. 52. That's not as much as 200. And so, you know, he's just doing his job, his due diligence. I don't think anything, I know this is going to be any, it's not going to be a big deal pass today. Yeah. I don't think anyone's going to talk about this in a week from now.

Yeah. Flip on the radar, yeah. Yeah. I think nobody's talking about it today. They also confirmed that Connor Stallions was on a Central Michigan sideline.

That's good for them. That program, the MAC, needs a lot of help. Yep. That program's going to be a powerhouse. Yeah. It might have been just like Michigan sharing one of their assistants with CMU. Yeah. Nothing inappropriate going on. We interviewed Harbaugh a couple hours after this. We weren't going to ask him about this. I don't know. I'm sure there'll be people like, why didn't you ask him? I don't know.

We have a relationship with Coach Harbaugh. I really didn't feel like being like, hey... Putting on our big J hats. What's going on with Sherron Moore? Yeah. Listen, we're here to talk about his team right now. Yeah, right. And also suck his dick a little bit about Michigan. Also, it was an awesome interview. So I am still... As crazy as the Conor Stallion story is, I still think that everyone was doing something similar and they were just mad that Michigan... Like this...

This all comes from Ohio State being jealous that Michigan was beating them. Yeah. And Ryan Day having that firm that was... Wasn't his brother created a firm? Something about his brother and worked up in New England somewhere. Yeah. It's the best college football story of all time. It is. And Connor Stallions is just a hilarious character. Yes, he's an American hero. He's like the American dream. Hank, what are your thoughts on this? As a veteran of someone who's been accused of spying on teams and as a veteran of a fan of a team...

who's deleted a lot of text messages. Yeah, I think you've got to get every advantage you can. I think if you're not going to do it and another team's going to, and to Big Cat's point, the only reason they got caught is just because people were mad they were doing it so well. They were winning. I mean, there's a chance if Ohio State beat Michigan the last two years, we don't even know Connor Stallion's name. That's true. Good point. That's a good point, Huey. You've acquitted yourself quite well. Okay, should we get to our interview? Let's do it.

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Back in the NFL, Coach, you know how Grit Week works. So you've given us this answer before, but it's been a while. How would you define grit? I would define it as that gravel in the gut. And even that you personally have that overcomes that situation when you doubt yourself. Those pressure moments and the guys that have it.

who have it, men or women, whoever has it, I mean, then they are able to give their best when their best is needed most. Yeah. I like that. Overcoming a little adversity from time to time. Yeah. Do you enjoy a little bit of adversity just so you can get a nice little W, a nice win over like maybe your inner demons or whatever the case may be?

Well, I mean, there's like the level of the W would be, yeah. I mean, you just love a W no matter what. I mean, you win. But, yeah, there's like even better levels. Like if you have to overcome something, yeah, that makes that even better, right? You know, for example, yeah, that come from behind win is even, you know, nothing makes you feel better.

better than that or that win where you did it in an opposing stadium, you know, and you feel like, you know, your team walked in there and, you know, the fans were against you, you know, and it was just, you overcame that. Some tough environments that there's just no better feeling than coming out of a, with a win in a place like that. Yeah. And then if you can throw the elements in, you know, there's some like, you know, real, real cold or real,

real hot or uh you know some some rain coming down sideways and you feel like you overcame the elements as well you know yeah to overcome an opponent overcome them in their stadium and to overcome them in their stadium with the elements

then I would say, yeah, there's nothing that would make you feel more like a man than that. Yeah. Beat the weather. Yeah. All three. Beat them all. It's great to see you back in the NFL. I wanted to ask you, though, how hard was that decision to go –

come back to the NFL, leaving Michigan. You went there. You proved everything. You set out to prove. It took a while, but you did it. Beat Ohio State three years in a row, national title. But was it tough? Because I assume you're a dream job, but to then be like, I got to leave this and come back to the NFL. Was that a tough decision? Yeah, it was. I mean, I love –

love these guys. You know, I mean, this was, you know, all the, all the players there, all the other guys are recruited, the coaches, you know, just, just everybody. I mean, it's like, love you guys. And, you know, there's, there's another thing where, okay, here's, here's a challenge, you know, here's somebody that, you know, likes what you do and, and how you do it and, and presenting you with this challenge. And,

whether it's a blessing or a curse i mean that's that's um you know kind of always what's been in me is like yeah let me see if i'm let me see if i'm up to that yeah and um so that's uh that was the that was the overarching yeah i would say there's always there's only there's only so many sayings left in the hourglass you know so uh yeah i wanna i wanna i wanna chat i shot at that i wanna see if uh you know

we can let you know see if we can uh stand up to that and um so yeah it's been it's been it's been hard you know uh man this is this is this is my two great loves that i have in my life is my family at home you know and my family at work and and there's there was that michigan family uh

And also my dad lived right next door to me in Ann Arbor. And maybe the toughest thing of all, you know, has been that, you know, they haven't moved out here. And hopefully they will. Mom and dad, I hope you, please, please, I need you living next door to us here in Los Angeles. But I got to say, this family I have here at work, I love these guys.

I love these guys. And that's players. That's the coaching staff we put together. I mean, just tremendous all-star staff. I know it. I know that. And the entire organization, I mean, equipment room, the ownership, everything.

you know, the trainer, the doctors, the grounds crew. I mean, everybody here, John Weidmeier, Christina, Marco, on and on and on. And I finally put my finger on it, which is why do I love these? Why do I love these? Everybody here so much so fast. Yeah. And

And it's if I had to say one thing, it's just that everybody here treats their job like it's the most important job in the entire organization. And, you know, they are just, you know, double check it, triple check it. You know, they just they just they want to be they want to be so good that, you know, I just love that everybody players and all are doing everything right.

anything and everything in their power to try to make this team win and be successful. I love that. Love these guys. And now one thing you didn't mention, which I would assume was part of it, is your brother has a Super Bowl. Did that get in your head a little? Like, I got to go get a Super Bowl. Yeah, I think people, you know, like would automatically think that. I think it's been said. And yeah, you know,

that's that's that's part of it yeah um but we know you we know you well it's gotta be a little part yeah i'm not i'm not denying that yeah i mean uh but uh yeah i gotta say that um and maybe maybe but um you know i know everybody says you got to do you got to do one thing first you got to make the first birdie before you can you know do anything else but uh

Yeah, it's so good here. This entire organization, the Spanos family. Joe Ortiz, my brother said I would love Joe. That's what he said. Oh, you're going to love Joe. You're going to love working with Joe. He undersold it. He undersold it. He's one of the best evaluators ever.

in the game i don't think there's anybody better uh after going through this offseason and draft with george he and he's he's he he is who he is every day and uh he pulls the best out of people uh it's just it's just been spectacular he could those draft meetings we had i mean there could be like a ted talk of you know just the leadership style that that he has uh you know he said

He's a normal guy. He's a football guy. Yeah. He's a grit weak guy, you know? So my brother, he did say I'd love him. Maybe there's, to me, it's like, he's still undersold it. You know what I mean? How much I'm going to love Joe Hortiz. So, you know, that's been amazing. Just everything's amazing. If, if,

If it goes good, it's got to be because there's everything is in place and the players that we have. And we can start talking about those guys too. And if it goes bad, it's because I'm a bad manager. But yeah, we're chipping away at it and getting after it every day. Listen, I wanted you – I was very publicly wanting you to coach the Bears. I was reading it back. I sent you – I made you a video, a hype video, trying to be like, hey, maybe I can get some kind of old flame going in Coach Harbaugh's heart where he's like, I got to go back to Chicago. Yeah.

Your response was the nicest, like, I don't care about this video ever. Can I read it to you? It was the nicest ever. You wrote back, I sent you the video of you, old highlights of you in a Bears uniform, all this stuff. And you said, thanks, cool. All glory to God. Sure do value our football and family relationships and good times. Cherish them. Thanks for caring and supporting. There are enough doubters and haters in the world. Much respect and gratitude for you and yours. Yeah.

That was the nicest I don't care about this video ever. That's not at all. That's not at all.

No, I appreciate you both. I mean, big cat, PFT commentator. I mean, there are, there's so many, there's so many young people and I don't know everything you do and say, but what I do know is like people, there's a, there's like a whole young generation of people that like, oh, you're a football guy. You're a football guy. We know you. And I go, and I like, I asked a couple of like, you know, like,

Do you know me? I mean, what do you – well, we watch Big Cat and PFT Conner. So I appreciate – I appreciate – You are an ultimate football guy. All the wonderful things you said about –

Our family. Yeah. So I meant every word of that. And I know my brother John feels the same way. Yeah. And my dad, Jack Harbaugh, who's doing great. He'll be out in LA. Move to LA, Jack. Yeah, come on. Are you sending him links to houses? Are you looking at real estate? And you're like, hey, look at this basement. This one's got a pool. Yeah. You know, it's a great question. I mean, it's just with the...

you know, there's a, there's, there's strategy. I'm always thinking of, of the, of the, of the way to do this. Now, when, when I went from San Francisco to Michigan, um, one of the last things I said, dad, you know, um,

what what do you think i should do here you know what do you think i should do and he thinks i i think you should go back to michigan and and coach michigan and um i said okay well if i do that you're gonna you're gonna come right you're gonna come to ann arbor and you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna help me coach and he said the last thing he said is that he would and uh and i i got him you know i got him saying that and then it took a full 12 months before he actually did you know um

So I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that, you know, that

that that we'll find a way here in a year and uh yeah i'll do anything i'll you know just buy a house next to next to my house i got you got this new facility just get him a house in the facility just get a whole you know find a little apartment find a role for him here yeah like special special advisor it sounds like i it's a really cool relationship that you have with him and it's awesome and my mom it's my mom too i mean my mom's the greatest ever um and you know between my mom and my dad um

Yeah, just in the relationship they have with our kids. I mean, there was there's so many times I mean, living right next door to their grandparents. I mean, my kids would would be down there and, you know, my dad would take kids to school. He would go to their games, you know, the conversations, you know, driving cars.

you know, my son Jack to his baseball games, me and my dad watching baseball games like we were at the Church of Baseball, you know, in the in the summer time watching watching games on Sunday.

I mean, that was just priceless. I mean, I just got to the point where I'm taping those conversations. That's my favorite part is the ride to the game and the ride back. You know, just talking to Jack or to Addie or to Katie or to Johnny. I love –

I really don't even care that much what happens during the game. I mean, the best time for me is the ride to and the ride back. And my dad would be right there. Yeah. You know, so often it's just the three of us doing that. It's just – it's priceless. It's completely priceless. Unless you catch a foul ball at the game. That's probably better, right? That's good too. Are you still wearing a glove? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You got to wear a glove when you go to MLB. Yeah. Yeah. I always wear a glove. I mean, that's like –

Your chances improve dramatically if you have a glove at a baseball game. There's no question about it. Success is when preparation meets opportunity, right? I just got to change. I mean, it's just I've only gotten one foul ball. I've got 22 in

career foul balls like legitimately in a game a foul ball a home run but it happened like during the game not batting practice yeah don't count those so uh but and i really probably i've only gotten one in the last 10 years oh some people are saying you've fallen off yeah yeah it's a it's a

I've done it to myself, really. I mean, I get I got a lot of games. Bob Melvin's a really good friend of mine. Played on the same, you know, team. What's American Legion team? We were in high school. He was a couple of years older, but and he was the star player and I wasn't. But anyway, he's been great to me. And yeah.

I just went to the Angels game. I mean, they were great to me. You know, Padres, I got to know some people there. They get me – the tickets they get me are too good. Oh. They're too good. Yeah. They're in a spot where you just – I mean, your percentage of getting a foul ball is – I mean, you would have to like –

And the Nets now, yeah. The Nets. It would have to hit off and then bounce back. So you got to ask for worse tickets. I got to get worse tickets. You got to get worse tickets. You got to be on the bleachers. I'm in a suite, and the only chance I got is if the ball were to come through the suite, you know, just over the screen. Are you bringing it up to the suite? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm ready. I'm ready. But I mean, I just got, I'm not putting myself in position to be in position. Yeah. We got to get that fixed. 22 and then only one in the last 10 years. That's falling off. I gotta get, I gotta get to some better, I gotta get to some better spots. When you said that you, you tape your conversation, were you being literal? Do you, do you record your conversations that you have with your family? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I don't even listen to them right afterwards, but I'm just keeping them. I'm just keeping them. I'm going to start doing that. Yeah. I just want them for, you know, for, you know, maybe, you know, just some time down the road. Those rides to the car, listen to them talk about the game or, you know.

what they were doing or the excitement of you know like uh that they had it's the best yeah and i always got to get my i now i gotta call my dad and i i got uh you know to be taping it taping it and uh

Which is I can do because it comes through the car. But, yeah, that's just priceless. Those are just priceless moments. And my mom, too. She's, I mean, she's just, they just give this wisdom and stuff that if, yeah, if I don't write it down, I'm going to forget it. But my mom actually has given me the best advice I've ever gotten as a player or a coach. And that is, you know, it's one play at a time, one game at a time.

One day at a time. And she texts me that every, before every single game, like the morning of every game. I need that text. Yeah. That's a reminder. There's one play at a time, one game at a time, one day at a time. Yeah. So a football question here. Obviously it's new. You guys just got started not too long ago here in LA, but is there anything that's changed? Anything big that's changed in the NFL from the way that you did business back on the Niners compared to now? Yeah.

That's a great question. I've been asked it a few times by lots of people. From the time I coached at the Niners to now, I would say probably the biggest change is

2013-14, I didn't think the NFL could get any bigger than it already was. I didn't think it could be any more popular than it already was. But it's doubled. It is 2x at least in popularity. And you can see in what the salary cap is twice as much. And

just the popularity of the game of football. I mean, it's, it's, it's awesome. And right around that time too, just as a perception of football too. And, and the fun that everybody has and the popularity, I saw it firsthand. Um,

And back then, there was a – football had a little bit of a – I mean, it had a bit of a crisis back then, you know, with – you know, is it too dangerous? Is it too much of a sport that, you know, that a mother wouldn't want their son to play? And, you know, and then I went into college –

ranks in 2015 and i saw you know just growing from there and everywhere i went around the country it's like well football football it's popular it's never been you know it's like and it was it just uh and a lot of the rule changes have been good i mean it's definitely it's definitely a safer game yeah um

you know, the horse collars out the blows to the head. I mean, some of these rules of engagement, uh, you know, are, are so good and so much better. And, you know, player safety is the, is the most important thing, but I, I just see it coming, coming back and they're doing, they're doing all the right things. And, um, you know, the, uh,

Commissioner Goodell has done a fabulous job. Brian Rolap, I don't know if you know him. He's another great guy at the NFL. Very high up, I had a chance to coach his son, Will, at Michigan. There's just fabulous people that have made this league, and everybody's made it. The players, there's no question they're bigger, stronger players.

Faster, smarter, no question about that. Us older players, guys who played a long time ago, we still maybe say, are they tougher? Are they tougher? I don't know. It's all subjective. We probably aren't as tough as these guys are because they're just so much more harder to break.

You know, because the way they train, you know, and Coach Herbert and others, you know, this and just just their, you know, passion, love and desire for the game is is is at an all time high as well. I'll tell you a quick story. Zion Johnson, who is our starting left guard, he had a root canal.

at 2 o'clock. I think he got done at like 2, 2.30. And was out to practice. Didn't miss a rep. And then we did conditioning at the end. We say, hey, if you're in elite condition, go on this sideline A. If you're in good condition, go on sideline B. If you're in average condition, go on sideline C. And he went to A. And

you know led the group led the offensive uh excuse me led the offensive lineman uh it's just like okay who would have done that yeah i mean i mean most normal human beings probably would have taken a week off most football players you know most all football players were at least taking a couple days yeah you know if you're a root canal yeah and uh

And just about all would have at least taken that practice off, you know, an hour or so after. So, I mean, I can't even say that we were tougher back then. So what's really changed? And the equipment's changed. And the equipment is much better. But I think, you know, still the same is the –

the work ethic and you know the passion to be good and you know get really good at at what you do get good at football get good at your craft so a couple things have changed but i think more things are more things are the same yeah you left that one small detail about you know the game has grown so much since like 2015 2016 a little podcast called part of my take started in 2016 came on the scene with the mission to grow the game today how much did that rise the

raise the time we always say grow the game that's the big thing for us so yeah goodell well take a deep long bow i believe that there's no doubt i mean no we're on the next play we're on the next play you guys are that's good yeah yeah we don't we don't but sometimes you know you can't say it but let me to say it there's no question about it there's uh you know yeah like i said i mean all of a sudden i got you know like

got uh got kind of got kind of popular with you know people in their you know late teens or 20s and and uh guy yeah no one knew what football was until part of my take that's exactly right i can personally vouch for you because i asked like several people and players my own players were like starting to look at me like i was cool you know like i started calling myself cool jim like these guys think good

Cool Jim. I love that. I'm Cool Jim now. In big part to you two. We appreciate that. I appreciate it.

I appreciate you. Yeah, I love that. So what about the new kickoff rule? Are you ready for it? Now your former player, Sam Schwartstein, was the one who came up with this idea with the XFL. Sam, my man. Yeah. He created a creative mind. Sam actually sent me – I asked him because, you know, we've known Sam for a really long time. And I think he actually helped us the first time we had you on back in Michigan in 2017. Yeah. So I asked him if he had any training camp.

He said that you have three rules. I don't know if you still have these three rules for training camp. So you can tell me. He said the first rule was no cupcaking, which is talking with your girl on the phone during bed check. Number two is never cut the chow line. And number three is never bare ass another man's stool. That.

Those are three rules still in existence. Okay. All right. Yeah. Yeah. That's a rule. We had to make that a rule. Never bare ass another man's spirit. No. No. He also said that you once told him that you – You know what's amazing about that is that the guys were listening. Yeah. That Sam remembers that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's cool. He told us – Because sometimes you talk to him and he's like –

Are they even listening? Yeah. Are they even getting any of this stuff? He told us a great story that when you first got to Stanford, you stripped Stanford of all the traditions and everything because you're like, you guys are losers and I have to figure out what makes you losers and then we'll build you back up. I don't ever. I don't. I can't. Sounds like you might have and you then built them back up just trying to find the common denominator of what is wrong with this. So we have to make it better.

Yeah. I mean, just, just the traditions that weren't helping us win, uh, is the ones I remember. Yeah. How is that helping us to do that? Um, and, and one of them, I mean, one of them was like, if they had like, you know, uh,

I always have this, I mean, there's no fighting, there's a no fighting punching, you know, rule. You know, one, it's going to get us a 15-yard penalty to ever punch another man. But like, I mean, let's think about, I mean, the intelligence of,

punching a guy who's wearing a helmet or, you know, a face mask. I mean, you will do nothing to him other than, you know, break your own hand. So, yeah, that was a rule. Then, you know, the ingenious Stanford guys...

you know, they decided that they were going to, since they couldn't fight, you know, and throw punches on the field, that they would take it into the locker room and they would make a circle and they would make the two guys fight in the locker room. So, yeah, I got wind of that. And that tradition ceases to exist, you know. And some of the other sophomore things that, you know, that weren't helping us.

Uh, yeah, we had, uh, the Stanford walk was another one that, um, yeah, that I took off was, which was, you know, kind of like right the last minute before like team warmups and we were walking, we're walking kind of like a half a mile in full equipment and, uh, you know.

yeah let's not do that yeah yeah let's how about how we do this we make our locker room at the stadium better you know and we you know we walk over in the in the sweatsuit kept the walk yeah we're walking by the the grove there and uh you know shaded nice yeah leisurely stroll instead of you know being in full equipment for for a 15 minute walk yeah i think that's a better idea yeah i wouldn't want to do that no and the other one i think it changed too was um

Yeah, we were playing UCLA, my first game ever at Stanford, and we're on the visitor sidelines.

uh you know staring right into the sun it was at least i'm looking at this going that's about 20 degrees cooler on that other side where the press box is and we're here in the we're in the sun for you know a good solid three quarters you know until the sun goes down until we got any relief yeah so uh well we couldn't do that because you know the band had to be in the opposite side and uh

And, or some, you know, that was the thing. We just moved to, here's what we do. We just moved to the band, to the other corner. Yeah, the little things. Just get us in the shade. Yeah. Well, the season ticket holders, they're going to love having their own team on their sidelines. Yeah. You know? They love winning football. Yeah, those were the traditions I remember. Some of the silly, there was some silly stuff, and then there was some just good practical stuff to...

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I also, I had never heard this story and I'd love to hear your, your, your telling of it, but you created a, a, a rivalry flag against when you were at San Diego. That's true. Dayton. Cause we, we love this. This is UConn and UCF had this where Bob Diaco just created a trophy out of thin air and UCF never said like, Hey, we're playing for this trophy. You kind of did the same thing with San Diego and Dayton where you just

created a flag and you're like, this is what we're playing for. Any other coaches like, what? What are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. That happened. Yeah. What made you do that? What did the other coach say when you told him like, hey, we're actually playing for this? We hadn't beaten Dayton in 10 years. And we were like,

Now we, this, this is the team we got to, this is the team we got to be, you know, we got to this, if we want to win the championship, they want, they're winning it every year. We, we better, you know, we better, uh, you know, set our sights to get, and if we can get playing at their level, then good chance we'll be able to, to beat the other ones. Um, so that was kind of the idea. And, uh,

It was just like, hey, we don't have any trophy games. There's no trophy. I mean, you come from the Big Ten where there's trophies. Every week's a trophy game. Stanford. I mean, you have the Axe. That was just a cool thing. So we didn't have that. And I said, by golly, we're going to make a trophy here for the –

USD Dayton game. So I just, I don't know where it came from. It was just one of those ideas came up with, let's make a flag, a big old flag that was half SD and half Dayton. So we made it and we had won the year before. So I said,

hey we made we i just told our own guys hey we made this trophy flag you guys won it so uh that whole that whole week of practice we had the we had the flag and i'll never remember so cool tim drevno uh who's our offensive coordinator at the time you know we took our bus to the san diego airport and he had he had the great idea of he was on the curve you know waving the

flag. We were flying commercial at USD. Anyway, fast forward to the game. We're at Dayton now. And we had the flag. We had put it right behind our bench and secured it with some tape and stuff. And it's flapping back there. And yeah, so we won the game and run across. And hey, Mike, good game. And you're probably wondering what that flag is that they're...

Now our guys were out carrying it around and doing stuff with it. So we made this flag out of respect for the rivalry between USD and Dayton. Since we just won this one, we'll keep it. Laughter

But next year, if you guys win, then, you know, it'd be, it'd be, uh, yours. I probably should have called you about this. And then you won it again. Yeah. You never, you never gave up the flag when you were there. No, no, no. We, we, we, we want it. If you had lost that game though, that first rivalry game with the flag, would you have given him the flag?

Oh, I didn't make it until after we won the first one. Then he made it. Then you made it. And then really used that as like motivation for the next year. But then you go to Dayton and you've got the flag. He doesn't know that you've got the flag. If you lose... He doesn't know I had the flag. And I guess for...

Our own purposes, we were using it. We didn't want to motivate them to think that there was a flag. They didn't know it was a flag game. Secret flag game, yeah. I would love to know where that flag is right now. If somebody has that, I would...

I would buy that. What I read was Dayton won it the year after you left and they took it and then it never came back. Yeah, I think the two coaches after that got it. Does this mean anything? No, it didn't mean anything to you, no. I think it ended up in Coach's garage. Somebody said that it was like he was – We've got to find this. I think I read an article where Mike was using it to –

to rake leaves onto his, as a leaf collector. - Somebody out there probably has this flag. I would be interested in buying that flag. - Maybe we make you a flag here. You got a rivalry against Kansas City. They're kind of like what Dayton was doing. They've been on fire.

We do a flag game. We do a Chargers Chiefs flag game. Maybe we'll do it in our studio. We'll just flip it over. Yeah, you guys have done stuff like that. Yeah. We can make you the flag. But PFT asked a good question. If you had lost that second game, would you have given them the flag they didn't even know existed? I would have, yes. Okay, that's good. I would have given them that flag. That they didn't know existed. I would have. I just handed it to them like, here you go. I'm going to tell you. I said, yeah, we made this flag. You won. Now it's your flag. We'll play for this. We'll play for this.

We'll play for this every year. Yeah. Yeah. I would have, I would have done that. I love it. Last time we sat down and talked to you. And there's no tougher thing than having to give. Yeah. So your rival. Yeah. That, that, that feeling of giving the Brown jug, you know, fortunately didn't have, well, as a player I did when I was playing, but coaching, we didn't have to, we didn't have to give that up. And the, uh, yeah, the, the Paul Bunyan. Yeah. Uh, we had to give Michigan state that, uh, uh,

Yeah, that time. Oh, that one game. Let's not bring it up. How long did it take you to – I mean, that was just insane. I'm not fully over that. I'm not fully over that. Yeah, we got a punt blocked with 10 seconds left in the game. It's left an indelible bruise there. Yeah, that was – I mean, top five worst thing that's ever happened to me in my life. It's a good life. Yeah.

That's top five. We carry those scars with us. That's top five. Yeah. But yeah, it led to some, you know, yeah, it led to, you know, eliminating that, eliminating that, that pro, that college punt, you know, that spread punt. Yeah. That's, yeah. It looks like every time they do it, how are they going to block this? We're not going to do this spread punt ever again. We'll go back. We're going to back good old fashioned pro, pro style punting from here on out. Yes. And our, yeah.

punters got to be at 14 yards you can't be at 16 you can tell this one bothers yeah I mean you think of all the all the yeah I play that scenario out uh quite a bit yeah but it helps you get better you evolve one thing you evolved on was uh you used to be anti-chicken yeah because it was a nervous little bird and when I heard you talk about it I was like you know what he's right

you are what you eat right so you gain the energy of the animal if it's a nervous bird that's gonna be bad for my my fast twitch muscles yeah then you change your tune on it change back yeah because you admire you respect chickens now right correct so what flipped the switch for you uh getting chickens raising chickens from chicks and and uh the respect i have for chickens i mean i really the um

I mean, you probably got to put bees a little bit above chickens. Yeah. But, I mean, they're in the same ballpark. Why bees above chickens? Because they pollinate probably, what, 80% of the world's food? Yeah.

Anyway, people are going to look at this and go, this guy's weird or something. No, no. No, but here's the whole – the entire thing was Brian Jennings, who I love dearly. He was our long snapper at the San Francisco 49ers. And he was one of those players I just had to talk to every day, got to be around and just get his insights on life and things. Yeah.

he had this great breakfast that he would eat and it was just, it was steak on toast and, um, you know, protein and getting his carbohydrates and it really tasted good. And I, I started, you know, doing it that way. And then one day I, you know, I had chick, I was eating a chicken, something chicken sandwich or something like that. And,

And, uh, he goes, yeah, you really shouldn't eat chicken. And then he, he, he was the one who explained to me that chicken chickens were nervous bird. And it was, it was part of their, um, their immune system and their nervous system was just, you know, you can probably make that case, you know, with the pecking and, and, and, and things. But, um,

And I, yeah, I kind of maintain that, you know, chicken's a nervous bird, you know, and kind of bought, really bought into what, what Brian was, was saying. He had this whole like thing documented how, you know, when the United States went from

meat eaters, you know, meat consumption mainly to a higher rate of chicken consumption that, you know, nervousness went up, you know. You would have to get to Brian Cheney. We got to talk about correlation and causation just a little bit. Get with Brian maybe and maybe he can explain it. But I bought into it up until the point where it was the pandemic, it was Easter, and I went to Tractor Supply, got eight

chicks you know right in the box and and we raised them and uh and the kids loved them uh for about a month and then uh after that it was me exclusively taking care of them and uh yeah just just uh the production that they have i mean it is an egg every 26 hours you know and uh you know they're they're

they're, they're low maintenance. I mean, they're not high maintenance. I mean, that's, it's low maintenance and high production with the chicken. And, and there were some times in there, you know, where, uh, you know, I actually felt like the chickens liked me and liked seeing me. And, uh, and I, I went to a lot of, you know, to make their life, you know, better and kept their, kept their, kept their pen, you know, like good. Yeah. And, uh, yeah, I enjoyed, uh,

with them, with the chickens. And yeah. - It was a huge relief for us 'cause we got to eat chicken again. - Yeah. - 'Cause we stopped eating chicken when you told us not to eat chicken. - Yeah, go back. - I was wrong. I was wrong. I think I was dead wrong. - I like that, yeah. - I was dead wrong. - You evolved, so what are you on now? What's the latest thing that you're fascinated by or something that you think you're ahead of the curve with, an insight into life or nature? - I just like living that strenuous life of like, you know,

Always trying to think and always trying to have an idea or work or, you know, just feel like, you know, you just got to go. And, you know, love being on my feet, love doing stuff, you know. I mean, love thinking of something and then doing it. Yeah, I mean...

We'll see. I'll let you know if something works or if it doesn't. But, yeah, just – I don't know. Just that feeling that, you know, you just got to – you can't slow down. And, you know, in a moment's notice, you know, something could change. So just kind of keep going about it that way. Are we still watching SpongeBob and respecting everything SpongeBob does? Yeah, not as much. Not as much because, you know, my youngest guy – Kids are a little older. Yeah. My youngest guy is – you know, he's –

He's more on the... He's evolved more to the YouTube and, you know, the different daredevil things that are on that. Are we worried that he's... People screaming, you know, because they...

What the heck? Are we worried his work ethic's going to be a little off that he doesn't have Spongebob as someone he can look up to? Because you told us when we, I think it was maybe the second time you were on, that Spongebob, he's someone you look up to. He's a hero. There's no doubt about it. I mean, when you talk about attacking each day with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind, yeah, that's Spongebob. And it's a...

it's a, it's unknown to mankind, you know, it's not of mankind. It's right. You know, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. And it's something, I mean, I'm, I'm, yeah, I think that enthusiasm comes from, you know, from God. It's like that Jesus juice, you know? And I just, I had that, that, you know, something you'd get at a good sermon, you know, where you feel it, really feel it, you know? And, and I, and I feel it in a, in a, in a good sermon at church. Um,

But also from football, I get that kind of juice, that love of the game from football as well. Is that – like training camp being back, like just the pads being on, is that something that like the first day where you're like, man, this is where I should be. This is the feeling that I need. Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. Yeah, I always get that feeling. As a player, I got it. And it's not as good as a coach, you know, that –

But it's the next best thing, you know? But I get it as a coach, yeah. I mean, and I don't know. Some people say it's like it's not worth to find you. It shouldn't be. I understand that difference, you know, that case. But I actually like myself better, you know, when I'm, you know, like when I play, you know, like you put on that armor, you put on that helmet, you put on that jersey, you know, you look in the mirror and go,

Jim Harbaugh, football player, you know, like, you know, today's the day. I mean, great things are great things are going to happen. You know, somebody says, have a nice day. And I say, well, that seems a little risky. I think I'm just going to make it a, you know, great day. Yeah.

Take the try out of it. And, you know, when I put on that uniform, I mean, it felt like putting on a Superman, you know, kind of a cape, you know, if you will. And I still get some of that from coaching, you know. Put on my outfit and my hat and, you know, get my whistle and coaching football today. Yeah. I mean, you got to rise to that. You got to.

You know, rise to that challenge. We had a debate when we were watching you in the national title game, seeing how jacked up you were on the sideline before the game. Yeah. We thought that if the NCAA allowed it, you could have put on pads and probably played that whole game. Do you think you could have gotten out there and been like, you know what, I'm just going to quarterback today. I'm ready to go.

Now, now, and even the feeling of like winning that game. I mean, it was so good, but it's not even, it's long past being for myself, you know? It's like-

I can see JJ McCarthy or Blake Corham, uh, or any one of those players, you know, this is their opportunity to be a champion, to go undefeated, uh, for them to know that. And for their mom and dad, you know, for Jim and Megan McCarthy to know that their son is a champion for each of those parents, uncles, grandparents, like that they get to feel that joy of, uh, of, of

of their son or their grandson or their friend, whatever it is. And for themselves to know, like you did that. Yeah. Pull it down or pull it in, but you did that. And that's, that's where all the joy comes.

That's where all the joy comes from is them experiencing that. Yeah, and that game was an ass-kicking. That was a beautiful thing to watch. At what point in the game did you realize they're not stopping us? I mean, that's my goal. My goal is that we get ahead, we stay ahead, we get so far ahead that I can't screw it up. And I guess when Mikey Samuelsville, you know,

Picked off that pass and then returned it, you know, 50 yards. Yeah. We're going to win this if we don't screw up this. Yeah. If we don't give a kickoff return here, you know, and that kind of thing. So, yeah, I guess, you know, you never really feel that until your team has taken a knee in victory, you know. But, I don't know, somewhere along the line I felt it. And, you know, it's –

That's one of those feelings that's not going to wash off in the shower. That stays with you. That stays with you. And it was crazy watching Michigan this year. It was just like the tackling, the physicality, the running the football. It felt like it was a perfect team built in your mold. Even we were talking to Coach Herbert about the Penn State game, which I know you were watching on TV, but like –

running the football down their throat and being like, you can't stop this. We're going to keep running it. Had to have felt like everything I've wanted in a football team. Yeah, I mean, this is the only part that I'm uncomfortable with is like that team was in my mold or something like that. I mean, these guys were so much better than I was. And so much...

so much more connected you know than just about any any team i'd ever been on uh so unselfish you know i mean talk about adversity i mean uh you know the uh they overcame it at every point i mean it got to the point where you know it was it was white noise you know and and then it to the point where you couldn't even hear it you know um

And that, that may not all came from their parents and their families that had poured all that into them. And it came from them, you know, who they, who the, who they were. And, uh, they just kept, kept getting better at, at, at being them, you know, and they never got a big head. Uh, and it was, it was, uh, it was tremendous. And, you know, to the extent of like the other thing people say is like, Oh, you've, you've won everywhere you've been or this and that kind of stuff. Um,

It's only because you have good players. I mean, there is no good coaches with bad players. I mean, it's all about the players. And, you know, I learned that from Dave Adolph when I was a young coach, the great Dave Adolph. When I put up a Mount Rushmore of, you know, coaches, I mean, if I'm going to the very tip top, I mean, it's Jack Harbaugh, it's John Harbaugh, it's Dave Adolph.

Bo Schembechler. I mean, those four are right at the very top. And he said that. I said, Dave, how do we make this team USD? How do we get better? He goes, you got to get better players. And he said...

There's only two ways to do that. I mean, you got to coach them better or you got to recruit better players. You know, pro football, you got to coach them better or, you know, we got to – you got to acquire players, you know, through the draft, et cetera. It's just – but, yeah, there's no –

There's no – you can't be a good coach without great players. Yeah. I noticed you left Tom Crean off your Mount Rushmore of coaches. Tom Crean is right there. He is at the top. For us too, yes. Yes. There's no question about it. Tom Crean, Jack Harbaugh, John Harbaugh, Dave Adolph, Bo Schembechler, and –

I said those four football coaches. Coaches? Now we're going to just straight coaches. Tom Crane is standing right there next to those four great coaches that I met. He would look great on Mount Rushmore, Tom Crane. Yes. Yes. Got a good tan. And we'll put you on there, too. Yeah, you can be on there. Because you can't be far away from your dad. Or your brother.

Well, you got to win a Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. That hurt a little. It's good. It motivates me. There's more you got to do. There's more you got to do. Absolutely. You got them on Thanksgiving week this year, right?

What's that? Thanksgiving week this year. I think Monday Night Football before Thanksgiving. November 25th. You know the date. Exactly. Yeah. Absolutely know the date. And there's a little backstory why I know that date so well, because that's going to be my parents' 63rd wedding anniversary. Oh, wow. That was mean by the NFL. 63. No, I think it's great by the NFL. It's just, they're so good at stuff like that. The last time John and I played a regular season game was 2011. It was a Thursday night game.

It was on Thanksgiving, and the date was November 25th. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. They know what they're doing. It's all there. Yeah. Are mom and dad going to be at the game? Yeah, they'll be at the game. Have to be. God willing, and the creek don't rise, Jack and Jackie Harbaugh will be there. Yeah. That's great. I got a couple –

uh, factor fiction real quick, rapid fire, because you didn't, uh, speak to the media in Indianapolis for the combine, but you had so many players at the combine. So there was a story I read where they asked players for stories about you as a coach. Um, did you ever get a haircut during a recruiting visit in the players living room? Yes. Samaj Morgan's house. Uh,

No, wait. No, Brady McGregor. Brady McGregor's house. His mom was a hairstylist and you just were like, hey, I need it. What happened there?

Yeah, I got a haircut. I needed one. I needed one. I've been on the recruiting trail for, I'm sorry about that. No, no, yeah, yeah. That was Braden's mom. And yeah, it was a great haircut. Yeah, there also was a story from Michael Barrett that- Braden also got me the tattoo. Oh, yeah, that's right. He didn't do it, but his guy did. Yeah, that you were on the recruiting trail and hungry and you went to Michael Barrett's house and you ate an entire pizza yourself.

I might have been pretty hungry. I mean, that might have happened. Yeah, okay. And then the last one was Josh Wallace said that he came in one day and you were in the ice tub full khakis and polo. Yeah. These are great stories. I don't see the problem with it. No. You just finish your workout, get in the ice bath. Yeah. I love it. And these are, I mean, these are.

They're almost like athletic pants. Yeah. Are you getting away from the khakis or would the khakis be regular season? I mean, just the color. I just wanted to change it up sometimes and not be, you know. What's going to happen when the regular season starts? They're the same pant as the khaki. Okay. But is this going to be the color during the regular season? I've gone darker lately. Yeah. It's the new me. These are things we need to know.

before because these are important things i've gone darker the last three years the last three years i've gone to the blue the blue i mean they're still khaki that's true but they're just the colors it's the colors different that's your big change yeah i don't think you know you don't want to get like you don't get stale yeah yeah you gotta change your khaki color you don't want to be like i don't mind you know i'll be like burnt meat or overripe fruit yeah then people expect it and then you gotta you gotta change it up because then they'll start game planning for the khakis

You got to change it up. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind you wearing them in the cold tub either. You're going to wash them at the end of the day. Right. Like those pants, they've outlived their usefulness for that day. Might as well just get them wet right then. Yeah. I mean, I don't see the problem. Yeah. I don't see the problem at all. There's no problem. Yeah. I'm pretty good at the... I mean...

I've loved how you're discussing players and the health concerns with the media because you've got a phrase that you go back to. They're working through something, which I think is a very – you can use that for anything. So I'm just going to start saying that about myself. We're all working through something, right? Because it's like a game of poker that you have to play sometimes where you don't want to give up too much to the media. But if you say we're working through something, then they're working through something.

It's just a matter of I'm not qualified. I'm not qualified to say anything more than they're working through something. I mean, there's I don't have a medical degree. I mean, look at my I look at my office and there's there's a lot of stuff in it and some some things I've accomplished. But I mean, there is no there's no medical degree in there. I mean, I didn't take anything.

I didn't take human, you know, I didn't take biology or any of those in college either. I mean, it's just, it's just, I don't think I'm even qualified to relay what the, what the doctors say. I mean, or, or the trainers say, it was just, it's just a, it's just a question of what you're qualified to do. And I'm not, I'm not qualified on it. Yeah. Yeah. That's HIPAA. You can't discuss them. That's what I would say. Yeah. It's against the law. Yeah. I mean, I mean,

Is or isn't. I mean, we're going to, I mean, definitely comply with all the, I mean, it's pretty transparent when it comes to the games. Yeah. But no, it's just a matter of how is he feeling?

How's Big Cat feeling today? Working through something. Well, I'm not qualified to search his feelings either. I'm always working through something. Big Cat's working through something. That's really... It's an official report. The way I look at it, that's all I'm really qualified to...

Yeah. Yeah. All right. So this has been unbelievable. We love we love having you on. I had one last question. It's the Chevy dot com question for Grit Week. Chevy Silverado, best truck out there. So my last question for you is you told us when we first interviewed you, all you cared about was I want to play football for as long as I can play football, then coach football, then die.

Has there been any change in that or is it the same of. No, still on track. Still on track. Coach football, then die. God willing. The creek don't rise. You know, we're we're on track. That's it. It's just the love. That's that's I think like because you are for us one of the ultimate football guys for that quote and for everything you do for the game of football. But it's football means that much to you.

Love it. Love football. And I thought it was really cool this, this week, Tony Jefferson, who's, who's, who's played for the Ravens, played for my brother, John, and he, and now he's, he's playing here. And somebody asked him the same question, like, you know, what's the difference in them? And, and a lot of people go to like, whatever they go to, you know, whatever their perception is. But, yeah,

I really like what Tony said. I mean, Tony said, you know, they both love football. And, you know, that's – I think it's really accurate and true. And, yeah, that meant a lot. I think, you know, that's somebody who's seen both of us. And I know my brother loves football. Yeah. And, yeah, I was –

it was a it was a very nice compliment to you know for him to say that yeah yeah and coach we got to ask you about the rv because we drove up here we have an rv it's grit week oh yeah we're gonna be staying in the rv yeah we don't have a great spot for i know that you had a good spot i don't know if you're still in the rv there or you you moved out um but yeah we're looking for a spot for the rv yeah you gotta tell me recommendations where to put your rv yeah at the

Yeah, about 150 yards to the south is where you could go. Yeah. I was in Huntington Beach. I was right across the street from the beach and the great ocean and Big Blue was right there. It was great. So I love RVing. I wish I could do it more. That was a great experience.

four month window to, um, to be in the RV. It's a simple life, you know, that's the best life.

right now it's not in the cards for me, uh, with, uh, a whole family, kids at home and, uh, and I had a full-time job, but, uh, yeah, someday, someday I think about that. That would be, yeah. I like traveling around in an RV. I just hopped on that opportunity. Yeah. And I was a big fan of the Rockford files growing up, Jim Rockford, living at, living in the trailer at the, at the beach in Malibu. I mean, that's the way I grew up. Uh,

that's my favorite tv show and you know you're just sitting there laying on your stomach in front of the tv you know watching the cars and the and the palm trees and that his trailer yeah like yeah someday i want to live in california someday i want to live in california and if i ever do

that I'm gonna live in a trailer like Jim Rock that's like yeah it's a cool memory yeah 11 year old Jim you know uh well coach Harbaugh best of luck thank you well you know we're the biggest fans and uh we appreciate you anytime you come on the show and uh go win some football games amen yeah appreciate that and uh right back at you right back at you you guys uh you guys are the best

Just keep doing you. Keep doing you. It's working. And piece of advice...

Want to get a little bit better at something? Just work a little bit harder at it. And whatever you do, don't get a big head. Yeah. That's a trap. That's a deep, dark, lonely trap. And we also, I should just say, because I don't want you to think that we're scumbags, we might have offered. Gritty guys don't get big heads. Yeah. No, they don't. We might have offered Coach Ben Herbert $10 million to come be the Barstool Sports Trainer. So I just want to let you know we might try to poach him. We're going to try to poach him.

I don't have the $10 million to pay him, but we'll find a way because we want him to make us tough. Yeah, I'm going to have to counteract that somehow. I'm going to have to find a way. I can't lose him. I cannot lose Ben Herbert. I don't think he will. I don't want to ever be forced. I'd do it if I absolutely had to, but I don't ever want to coach a football team without Ben Herbert.

being our strength coach yeah i don't i'll tell you i think you're safe because i think he liked us but i don't think he really liked us because we we told him that a lot of our day is sitting on the couch eating like you know chicken wings and hanging out i love ben herbert yeah he's the best i love he's the best he's me all right we'll let you keep him we'll let you keep him

Yeah. I'll put him on Mount Rushmore. I mean, he's really – There we go. He needs to be there. We can't compete with that. Yeah, that's it. Done. Tom Crean. Ben Herbert. Jack Harbaugh. This is the hell of a Mount Rushmore we got. John Harbaugh. There it is. That's the new Mount Rushmore. I love it. Thank you, Coach. Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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Sign up and sign into Paramount Plus today and get ready for another thrilling season of the NFL on CBS streaming live on Paramount Plus. It's a must for football fans. Okay. Mount Rushmore of things that you wish you weren't too old for. Max is running away with it. Max, you're running away with Mount Rushmore season. First time you ever ran away with it. Yeah. I also just had my notes up on my phone and Hank definitely tried to look at them. Hank, uh,

I got a question for you because we just had to switch out cameras, so we had to take a quick break, and you said the stock market is crashing. I wish maybe we knew anything about econ, and we could actually know what's happening. Yeah, Hank, that's a good point. What's happening? Black Monday. But we're economically illiterate because we've never been taught. I tried to tell you in the airport. That was actually the first thing I said. What did you say? I said...

Black Monday is coming. Get ready. But you understand we don't have the building blocks to understand this because you never taught us. Right. What is Black Monday? It's when everyone loses all their money that they've saved up. On a Monday? Does it always have to be on a Monday? No, just this Monday. Could it be Tuesday? In theory. Yeah. Okay. Could it be a Friday? It could be. So why is it doing a Black Monday? Yeah.

People are just panicking and selling stocks. Everyone's just panicking. I have no idea. Why can't they just turn it off like they did when everyone was making money off GameStop? Can't they just turn the stock market off? They're going to stop selling shares. Of the stock market? Yeah. Just don't turn it on tomorrow. I hope that Tuesday's better.

But now is a good buying opportunity. True. I'm going to invest in one share of the stock market tomorrow. This is when we get rich, boys. Yeah. This is the greatest. Buy the dip. This is the greatest opportunity of our lifetimes. Hank, are you going to ever explain to us econ? Go. I will. Okay. Not today. Okay. But not...

You kind of just did with Black Monday No he didn't say All he said was Black Monday He didn't say anything else He said that it's going to be bad Right but he just read that He told me earlier that Warren Buffet sold So that means other people are going to sell You did teach Max what Black Monday was What? That this was going to happen You were hammered so I didn't know what you were saying

You did say that. I mean, yeah, we're going to have to buy the debt. Wait, Hank, you called this? He did. He's been talking about it since I've seen him. You called the recession? He did on Saturday. Yeah, you're a fucking genius when it comes to the economy. You're the new Warren Buffett, so teach us. Okay, things you wish you weren't too old for. Max is running away with this.

I'm in second. PFT's in third. Hank is in fourth. How are we feeling, Hank? I feel great. I feel relaxed. I was able to get in the right headspace over vacation. I'm ready for a big second half of the year. Max also did say, let's just put this out there. There's not going to be any more food drafts. Was Friday a food draft? Hold on. Hold on. I am finished. Max also did say, I'm trying to figure out my magic number.

Oh, that's too early. Early to do that. You're too early to be playing that game. Early to do that. Yeah, this has potential to be heartbreaking.

I mean, this would be an all-time blown lead if you ended up in fourth because it doesn't matter if you're second or third. I know, and all the Philly teams are kind of doing that this year. It's impossible. It's impossible. It is impossible. It's not going to happen. Let's say AWS. Let me be the first to congratulate Max on winning Mount Rushmore season. This is bullshit. Congrats, Max. You're the one who said you're figuring out your magic dumb. I actually don't think it is possible. No, I don't either. So you have nothing to worry about. Hey.

Hank would just have to go on a heater. Yeah, so you're good. Hank, have you figured out what your tragic number is? No, I mean, you're close. Yeah, I'm only up like five points, and you're up two points on them. Who goes first? BFT. And then who goes second? Me. And then who goes third? We're in the correct order right now. We're in the correct order. Let's go, boys. We're good. Things you wish you weren't too old for. I like this. This is open-ended. All right, things I wish I was not too old for. First pick, BFT.

Going to three-day-long music festivals. Good one. And Lala was all over the timeline this weekend. The Chappelle Roan concert, when she's spelling out H-O-T-D-O-G-S. Is that what Max was saying? Yep. It looked like the best time ever, but it also looked like the last place on earth that I would want to go right now at my age. Yes. Max just got that.

You got it? No, I'm trying to think. Say it. Do you get it? H-O-T-D-O-G-S. I love hot dogs. They're the best. Nice. I saw someone on TikTok saying that. Shout out that person. Shout out that person. Shout out that person. Okay, good pick because I agree with that.

Yeah, I had that on my list. The one thing I do appreciate, I think we can still participate in when it comes to these three-day-long music festivals, is seeing old-school, awesome NBA jerseys and then just buying those and wearing those around. Yes. Like when I see a Bryant Reeves jersey at Lala, I'm like, damn, that's sick. Yes. You think you're too old to go to one day? One day's a concert. I can do a one-day. I can do a one-day music festival. I'm going to do that at Riot Fest this year, I think. So I've got to pick out either Friday or Saturday for that. But three days in a row just feels like... Crazy. What do you do on the third day?

It's part of your face off. And it's four days now. Really? Yeah. It starts on Thursday. I would show up and just complain all day on the third day. Okay, good pick. My first pick, sleepovers. Sleepovers with your friends. Okay. Too old for it. Would be cool, though. Those were the best when you were kids. Aren't we doing that this week? We're not sleeping in the same room. It's also work. And also Hank's not anyone's friend. Yeah. But sleepovers were the best. I wish it was...

Socially acceptable to just every now and then be like, let's just watch some games, play some video games, have a sleepover. I had sober sleepovers with your boys because sometimes, you know, I guess maybe not you with the family and stuff, but I also have sleepovers with my boys sometimes. Yeah, drunk. Yeah. But that's like you were too drunk to go home. Yeah. They're like staying over for like a night or whatever. Yeah. It's also like the little things like, you know.

Being a little too loud Then the dad comes down and yells at you Yes And like, you know Oh my god, what's gonna happen? Sneaking out Who's gonna go to sleep first? Sneaking out for a second Yeah Sneaking upstairs to get some snacks Oh Yeah Sleepovers Pretty good Max and Hank did a sleepover at the Super Bowl a couple years ago That's true Yeah We also did a non-sleepover Oh So you Regular day? No, but we We spent Well, Hank slept They spent a night together But they didn't do much Yeah, yeah, yeah

That was kind of sleepover vibes though We played video games We tried to do a Hank Hank was the worst puzzle doer I've ever seen in my life That was sleepover Yeah because you don't really sleep in sleepovers either Yeah right Okay Hank That was going to be my one one that's a good pick I will go with not paying bills You miss not paying bills Yeah But you're not too old for that You could do that You do do that

You don't pay your bills sometimes I do pay my bills But sometimes you don't There was a grace period when I moved Where some stuff was like Not getting sent to my condo And whatever That's the only one though That was your first week when you moved in Half the lights in your apartment weren't on You don't even think about it when you were a kid though Yeah, that'd be nice Max The guy who clinched Mount Rushmore You don't even need to go

Meatballs. Battling through a bad hangover. Like drinking through a bad hangover. Yep. Hank does that all the time. Like what? You don't do that? I'm saying like waking up. You literally, the sleepover that we just talked about, you woke up and just fought through it. Went to the Eagles game. Started drinking. That wasn't by choice. No battles by choice. I'm thinking like.

When you're in college, Friday night, you get absolutely... What you're trying to say is being able to drink with no hangovers. Yeah. That would be the... Because you get old and then you don't have hangovers. Battling through hangovers. Yeah, that makes no sense. Get his ass hanged. That makes no sense. Battling through hangovers. That's what you do. That's what everyone does. What do you mean that you didn't have a choice when you were at the Super Bowl? I mean, I had no...

I mean, I had to go to the Super Bowl. No, but, like, battling through with, like, the next day, like, partying through it. Okay, I guess, like, being hungover. Yeah. No, actually, I'll take you to say you had to drink that day. Yeah. That was the only way you were going to make it. Yeah. Being hungover. Yeah. Like, I just used to, like, not get hangovers. And that's basically what I'm saying. So what is the thing that you miss? Yeah. Not being hungover? Yeah. Like, drinking without getting hungover. Right. Okay. That's the answer. Okay. Okay.

Whoa, Hank. We're just giving him that? Throw a flag, Hank. Throw a flag. Your first answer was battling through hangovers. And then we just gave him an infinitely better one. I just didn't understand. Hank's right. I mean, I'll just not take, like... Battling through hangovers. No pick. Meatballs. No, well, that's not happening. Battling through hangovers. That was your pick. All right, fine.

I don't care. I think that somewhat makes sense. I think it's starting to see the punishments getting closer and closer. Let's also say that I'm in first, and I also get the most shit for all of my picks, and always have to get my picks changed. Take a deep breath. What? I couldn't get bullseye. What pick got changed? You guys made me do bullseye. What pick got changed?

No, not pick that got changed. Okay, but people are still mad about Fortnite season. There was another one recently. No, there was... Oh, dragons. People were pissed that I didn't get dragons. That's not a fucking animal. He got fucking Patrick

Patrick Mahomes. That's literally an animal. And it was a terrible pick. I'm just saying. You're awfully upset for a guy that's in first place by a significant margin. You clinched Mount Rushmore. I also think that's a fine pick. People are going to... Yeah, it is. Just think about what you're saying before you say it this time. Playing competitive sports. Okay. Okay, yeah. Yes. What do we do on Thursdays? What? That is not competitive sports.

If you can have a beer in your hand, that's not competitive sports. What do we do on Fridays at the office? That's not...

You guys are just... This is just going to be the rest of Mount Rushmore. No, I think you're factually incorrect. I'm going to ask you several questions right now that have... You can have a beer... Beer Olympics. Was that not a sport? No, that is not a sport. I'm talking about high school sports, college sports. One of my picks... You wake up... One of my picks was I'm sad that I'm too old for Little League. Yeah.

But that's not what you said. Okay. You guys are trying to tell me how to do my Mount Rushmore, and I'm the fucking best at this. You are. So what is the... Playing competitive sports. So are you going to keep playing on your softball team? You guys are... That is not competitive.

Wow, the Pugs. That hurts. Memes? You were part of that team? You guys are just going to make me quit Mount Rushmore? I compete. That'd be a real shame. I show up to compete. If you didn't get to win. It'd be a real shame. I like what you guys are doing here because I'm dominating this game way too much that you're just trying to muddy the water. It'd be a real shame if you quit Mount Rushmore and then your points stayed at the exact same total for the rest of Mount Rushmore. Whoever was going to be in first at this point.

Listen. Idiot. You idiot. That's impossible. What was the word you were about to say? Fucking idiot, but I was just like... Whoever was in first at this juncture of Mount Rushmore season was going to get this type of heat. It just happens it's you. All right. No. Fuck you guys. I think the lights might be too bright for Max. Yeah. He clenched. Yeah. You guys are just upset. You guys are upset. You're like the Yankees. Yeah. Okay. A lot of choices here. Yeah.

Let's go with climbing random trees. I had climbing trees on my list too. Yeah. When you were a kid, you would just climb whatever tree you could see. You know, you see it with some branches low and you're like, I can get up there. Now you'd probably get the police call. Yep. That's a good one. That's a good one. Um,

Playing with Nerf guns. I wish I wasn't too old for that. Playing with Nerf guns as a kid was the best. And now when you do it, it's just like, who cares? And they've gotten so much better over the years. So much better. You have automatic weapons. You've got laser sights on them. It's incredible. But playing with Nerf guns was so much fun as a kid. What's that look for, Hank?

No, no, there's a look. I was seeing him. I have nothing to say for the rest of this Mount Rushmore. I will take my picks and I will have no comment on it. Only the facts. Come back. Nope. No comment. Maybe like Barstool when we did the Nerf. We did a Nerf video. We did. Years ago. We did do that Nerf video. We did it in the New York office. Was I part of it?

You're a captain? Yeah, that was fun. I wish we could do that all the time, but we don't. That was also three years ago. I didn't bring it up. I was just curious. I was curious if Max was going to bring it up. I think the name of this is things that you wish you weren't too old for. That was in the past, right? Yeah, that was. Three years ago. Max, come back to us for Mount Rushmore. I'm done critiquing your picks. Yeah. No, I'm ready. All right. So do you think that was a good pick? Sure. Okay.

Okay, so I'm up. I just imagine waking up as a member of the Pugs on Black Monday and finding out you're not playing competitive sports. Yeah, well, I mean, if Hugh's managing the team, they're not competitive. It's true. It's true. You're a leader of that team. Talk. He hasn't been there in like... No, yeah. Oh, no. Neither have you. Yeah.

I'm talking about me. This is awesome. You went to a game and didn't play because your bicep hurt. Is that true? Yeah, I was worried about golf. Oh, my God. Now, actually, your pick got stronger. Because a guy who doesn't play because he's worried about golf, that's not competitive. Okay. Who was the playoffs I would have played? Hank competes in multiple competitive golf tournaments a year that he cares about. Yeah.

All right, so I have two. Yep. Okay, so my first one, I'm going to go trampolines. Trampolines rock. Dude, have you guys been on a trampoline recently? No. Okay. I was on a trampoline two weeks ago with my kids. I was doing popcorn with them where I was jumping and they were just popping everywhere. Maybe eight minutes, completely gassed. Like, sweat everywhere.

Had to get off the trampoline. That shit just kills you. Yeah, I was watching it at the Olympics too. And every time the guy would jump up in the air, I'd be like, that guy's going to die. They're so high up. But trampolines were so fun. There's trampolines in the Olympics? Yeah, there's trampolining. What? Yeah. They go like 50 feet in the air. It's crazy. Yeah, it's nuts. They should do...

trampoline the Olympics, but it should be like a battle, like two people at the same time trying to bounce each other. And maybe with a hoop and a ball? And then you can tackle the guy in midair. Yeah, I like that. But yeah, trampolines were so fun. You'd always go over to your friend's house that had a trampoline and his parents obviously just kind of didn't care and they were okay with everyone getting hurt. And then you'd just go on it for like... All you'd want to do is be like, let's go to the trampoline. And they'd be like, I'm sick of the trampoline. I broke my arm there.

two months ago. Now I want to do the fucking trampoline. They're awesome, but you can't do it as an adult. My next one, I'm going to go Power Wheels. Power Wheels was so fun because you couldn't drive yet, but goddamn if you weren't behind the wheel of what felt like a car at the time, Power Wheels were the absolute best. Agreed. Okay, I got to pick. Any smart comments about that? Max, lock back in. No, you're pretty good. Lock back in. Do you know what Power Wheels are? No, I have no idea what Power Wheels are. I think that's like a 1980s thing. You know what Power Wheels are?

No. Power wheels? Everyone knows power wheels. Power wheels. No, I don't know that. There's one in the office for my kids. Oh. It's a mini car. No, that's something different, but I have a mini truck that my kids come on Saturdays and just whip around in them. They're awesome. I don't know. I never had one as a kid. He was driving until he was like 14. That's hilarious. Hank's so funny. That's a good one, Hank.

That was a good one. Oh, okay. Yeah. They're just mini cars and mini trucks. But you can just drive real cars. Well, not when you're a little... Yeah, true. Oh, shit. Now that you're old.

Yeah, but like... This draft is the things that you wish you weren't too old for. Right. But he's saying you could drive a real car, which is... I could also probably still drive a Power Wheels. Yeah. That would be... We've got to test that out now. When you're right, you're right. Hank's right. That's why I'm a really good driver is because I was training up there all until I got my license. It's been almost a year since you last wrapped your car around a pole in the parking lot. Well, the pole that Hank clearly intentionally mislabeled. All right. All right.

Easy one for me. Building forts. I just love building forts. Now I'm in the fort building game on the other side where I build the forts, but I don't get to go in the forts. But building forts, just being inside of a fort. You build a good fort at the start of the day. It's like, I got this fort for the rest of the day. Pillow forts. Pillow forts. Stick forks down by the creek. Yep. I mean...

The best. Building a fort and just being like, this is my spot. I got it. Okay. I think it's been a lot of kid stuff, but I'll go a little bit older. I'll just go with college parties. Yeah. That's a good one. College parties were the best. And it does... I think the last college party I was at was with you, Hank, and it was like 10 years ago, and it was...

Very uncomfortable for us. Yeah, I had a stretch. I mean, like we did the Dixie tour when I was 22. That didn't feel weird. You were fine. There was a couple years after that. Like, I think I was 24 and I was like, this is super weird. We were at Ohio State. I was like 20 when we did this. Yeah, playing beer pong or flip cup.

And I was probably 29, and I was like, I have to get out of here. This is not good. Like, I need to get out of here. But, yeah, college parties from 18 to, I mean, even give yourself 22. Yeah. Can't beat it. Yeah. You know, like the Beer Olympics this year, they were basically the same thing as a college party. That's every single Saturday in college. Yeah. Yeah, like caring very deeply about a game of beer pong. Yeah. I miss getting into fights in beer pong games. Yeah. That was fun. It's a good pick.

Max? I don't know where this is going to go. This is also something that...

I didn't really get to do it in my own school, but I did it at other schools, and that's watching games at a student section. Ooh. Okay. I know that you guys did that recently. Yeah, you can still do that. But... You got to get over the uncomfortableness. Yeah, that's what this whole... I mean, technically, you can do anything that we're doing today, but it's uncomfortable. No, it's a good pick. Yeah. Yeah. I have a pick coming up that you cannot do, but okay. Okay, that's interesting. Okay. Yeah. I'm...

I have one that I really want to do, but I think that you're going to give me shit for it. No, go for it. You're in the lead. You're never going to blow this lead. We won't give you shit. I won't give you shit. I don't know. Say it, Max. As long as you're too old to do it.

I am too old to do it. Okay. Fuck it. I was, I was, this is another thing that I was never able to do. And I was just in France studying abroad. I'm too old to study abroad. I could never do it. It's the coolest thing ever. Yeah. That is. I wish I did. The whole time I was over there, I was like, I cannot believe that kids did this for a full semester and like fake went to school and then just went all through Europe. What?

Hank's insane, but you'd have to go to college to study abroad, Hank. Hank goes to college for one semester and studies abroad. I thought you guys were going to give me shit for that. I don't know why. No, that's a good pick. That's a good pick. Study abroad literally translates to look at that chick. Yeah. Oh, okay. Let's go, Max. It took me a while, but yeah. Let's go.

I will stay on brand considering you take a day off and it's like you killed someone, but just having the whole summer off. Nothing better. No, you're doing that this year. Last day of school, no. I'm here. I took less than a week off. I was here on Thursday, here on Friday, playing on Saturday. But yeah, last day of school before you were like, I don't know, what, 13, 14? Maybe you started to have to do some type of job in the summer, but when you're a

elementary and I guess just elementary school kid. The last day of school was like, I'm just going to play wiffle ball and baseball for the next two months and go to the pool. Winter college break too was great. Yeah, I feel like it was like a month. Yeah, it was like a month. I did it for once. Mm-hmm.

And then my friends and then... Wait, wait, wait. You went to school for one semester, right? No, two. Oh, two. Oh, all right. Oh, I finished out strong. But then when I was working... It'd be funny if Hank was still technically on his winter college break. No, I think if you did both of my semesters, though, I have like one semester's worth of credits. Finished out strong. Yeah. Yeah.

Um, but when I was working at a, at a young age in the, in the workforce, um, and my friends would be home and they would just have, they'd be like off fucking off for like a month straight. I just be at work being like, how, like when do you go back to school? Yeah. How are you still doing this? It's Wednesday. Yeah. That was the best. All right. Uh,

I got two that I want to... Should I do one or two? Max, you pick. I want the one that you said that you definitely can't do. Having a wet dream. A handjob from God. I wish I... Those rocked. It was basically virtual reality, and it was awesome, but you can't do it anymore. I haven't had a wet dream since I was 12 years old, 13 years old. You've had one? No, I haven't. Oh. I don't think I've ever had one. Couldn't you...

Could you? I don't know. Maybe just don't jerk off. I guess Robbie Fox was also very young when that happened. He was like 19. Okay, okay. I mean, it was just the bet. You went to sleep and you fucked a hot chick. And then, yeah, I mean, the cleanup was a little weird, but who cares? I think if you didn't come for like...

Two weeks or a month or something. It may have just happened. I don't know. That'd be very funny. Explain to your significant other, like, no, we can't do it. I'm trying to get myself a wet dream. I'm trying to get a wet dream. Just bear with me for the next couple weeks. I also like, it was only like a little stretch for me, and it rocked for that little stretch. I had one, exactly one wet dream my entire life. Really? And it was incredible. Yeah. And then I'm like, maybe I'll have another one.

But then I psyched myself out. Now every time I'm dreaming, I'm thinking about about to have sex with a hot chick. I'm like, wait, you idiot. This is a dream that hot chick will never have sex with you. Then I wake up and then I try to go back to sleep to get back into the dream where I like think about that dream, put myself back, and then it's fucked up. It would rock to be able to have a wet dream. Yeah. It would rock to be able to like know too, just being like, I'm going to put on, maybe put on a condom before I go to bed. No cleanup. But yeah, that's, we're too old for that.

Hughie, you ever had a wet dream? No. No, I don't remember a single one. Okay. So you might have had one. There's a possibility. Okay. All right. PFD, your last pick. Do you think it's a dream where you're swimming? Yeah. I won't drown probably. I was being those dreams. A bunch of mine got picked in this last round. So this is going to be tough for me. I miss the possibility of being taller. Yeah.

Like I'm not done growing. That's a good one. That's a good one. For you especially. Yeah, thank you. Until I was like 19 or 20, I was like, maybe. Maybe I'm not done yet. Because I stopped growing when I was in like ninth grade. I was like, maybe next year is the growth spurt. I started eating a lot of food, just got fat for a little bit. Because I was trying to convince myself that it was a growth spurt. That I'm hungry all the time. No, you're just getting fat. But that was, yeah, I wish I could still have that feeling where it's like, maybe this isn't it for me.

I'm tall PFT But I was this height I was this height in 7th grade And my dad is like 6'2 My uncle is like 6'4 My brother is 6'3 And they told me that I was going to be the tallest person in my family Oh no That's brutal

The fat guy equivalent to that is like outgrowing your baby fat. Yeah. Like when you're a fat child, it's like, it's okay. It's just baby fat. Yeah, I won't have tits. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you do outgrow it, and then it all comes back. An older relative is like, look, this is what I looked like in middle school. Yeah. And now I'm skinny. And you're like, oh, that's going to be me. And you think genetics is going to do all of it. Now you have to rely on Ozempic. Yeah.

Or like we're doing, we're working out. Yeah, we're working out. Me and Big Cat are getting in the best shape of our lives. Diet started today. Yep. What are we having for dinner? Pizza. Small amount of pizza. The one who said we should add some salad. Salad, yeah. Good call, Rex. What got left off? The one I was thinking that I would have picked, but I feel like maybe a little too much pushback. Pissing outdoors without it being a crime. No, golf course.

Yeah, true. You can pee anywhere in a golf course. But it is, it was awesome when you were a kid and you're just like, I pee anywhere and no one's going to say shit. In college, we had two bathrooms that were right next to the outdoor, like right next to outside and we would just go outside and we were like, I'm using the urinal. Yeah, but even that would be a crime if someone saw it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like being at like, when I take my son to like T-ball and he's like, I got to pee. I'm like, all right, there's a tree right there. No one's going to say shit. If I pee behind that tree, big problem, big problem. Mm-hmm.

I had getting hyped for Christmas morning. I had that too. Yeah, I thought about that one. Gravity bongs. The excitement. No, we're bringing those back. Yeah, we are bringing those back. But the excitement of the magic of Christmas. Yeah, and also your birthday too. Yeah, birthdays. Birthday was like, that was a big deal. And now it's just like, fuck, I'm getting older. Like, what, 18 is probably the last? No, 21 is the last birthday that you're excited for. 25, you can rent a car. I think it's 21. 21, I think it's it. You can rent a beach house. The rest is just like...

Yeah But dude remember like waking up being like I'm 10 today A fucking rock, double hand Cupcakes, school Yeah your birthday party, pizza Velcro sneakers

If you're an adult man wearing Velcro sneakers, people are like, something's wrong. And they are so much easier than tying your shoes. Yep. I wish I wasn't too old for those. But then you actually get, it does come around. When you're like 90. Yeah, when you get way old, you can do it. Diapers and Velcro. Yeah. They make a comeback.

I had quitting a job that you don't care about. That is one of the best feelings in the world. That's good. When you have a job in like your early 20s and you just hate it and walking away from that job, it is better than drugs. I walked out on a job on a lunch break.

That's awesome. Yeah, it was the worst job. It was the one I had where I called people asking them for money for Wisconsin alum. So I'd call them during dinner. The worst. I quit a dishwashing job to go to a free Mac Miller concert. Hell yes.

I had this one. I would have gotten some pushback because I'm currently doing a little of this, but I do wish I could just play video games all day. Yeah, I had that. Like there was nothing better than getting a new video game being like, there's my next 12 hours. Yeah. I'm just going to beat this video game.

That was the best. Having imaginary friends. Oh, yeah. Slash, like, world building with, like, your toys. No, just more the... Wish that you could have that, though? No, imagination, I think. It's not imaginary friends. Imagination. You lose your imagination. That sucks. Yeah, like, you have, like, stuffed animals and, like, you have a whole world in your brain. What was your world? It depended. Depended on the day. What were your stuffed animals? I had a chip. Beanie baby. Beanie baby.

That was my ride or die. Nice. And then it was just a random collection of other stuffed animals that my dog used as, like, toys. Yeah, you had your dog's toys. But I had my ace. Like, he'd be in the bed with me, and then everything else was just kind of, like, whatever was in the house. The one having energy. Yeah.

Like that's working out though. Yeah. But like, I'm talking about kid energy. Like I'm pretty sure my kids are solar powered because they'll just be in the sun all day and they just won't be tired. And it's just like, how did this happen? Yeah. You're like, you're super excited to wake up. Right. And you're super upset to go to sleep. Right. Because when you go to sleep, that's, you might miss out. Yeah. Sleeping in was one I had as well. Like I just, yeah, I'm too old to sleep in. It would be awesome to sleep in till like,

Yeah. I mean, I sleep in sometimes as well. I'm so jealous of that. Are there Saturdays? But are there Saturdays when you'll sleep till like 11? Oh, yeah. Motherfucker. I slept till 4 the other day. 4 is crazy. I'd kill a man to be able to do that. You almost slept through the sun?

I was in bed pretty much until the sun, god damn it, came down. See, that's, I mean, a young man wouldn't just rattle through that. That was also awesome. I had Happy Meals. Happy Meals, the joy of the Happy Meal and the tiny little shitty toy. What about, like, school parties? Yeah. House parties? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Like Valentine's Day, you had all that stuff. You had like the Christmas parties, there would always be like big activities. Yeah. Yeah. Field day. Yeah, now you try to do that. There's always like alcohol or something. Yeah. But just like a sober, fun party. Clean, old-fashioned fun. Yeah. The holiday themed stuff. Yeah. Yeah, dress up parties for the holidays. Yeah. That's a good one. Swinging on swing sets. Swinging on swing sets. Awesome. You get the cops called on you.

Yeah. Yeah. Especially if you're with kids. No, I'm saying, no, you're with your kids going to a park and you see a normal adult male by himself swinging on a swing set. You'd be like, what the fuck's going on? Yeah, for his own good, I would call the cops on him probably. You can still swim in a pool, but being a kid swimming in a pool, there was nothing better. Yeah.

I would never leave. And just being in a pool all day, like going underwater. You guys gone underwater recently? Yeah. It's not as fun. I did. Like it's just like your ears pop. Like I remember I would usually just fucking go underwater all day. I did, yeah. It was awesome. I was at the pool. I go underwater like every night. My buddy was at the pool and he's got like a six-year-old son. And so he was like, let's see how deep we can go and touch the bottom. Yeah. And so I was in the deep end and you just like push yourself down, touch the bottom. It's exhilarating.

But then you do it once and you're like, all right, I did it. Like being a kid, you do it for hours. Yeah, the kids stayed there and kept doing it. Just pool games in general. Pool games in general, definitely. I had being able to go out with a $20 bill. Oh, that's good. I wanted to do that. That was another one I was thinking, but then the alternative is, okay, well now you have more money so you don't need to do that. Yeah. But when you're in college and literally all you need is a $20 bill and-

can have the best night ever. I can't even fathom that. PFT and I have going out without smartphones. Yeah, it was excellent. That was so awesome. It was good. Going out with a flip phone, just being like no one was on their phone. I didn't have a smartphone until...

Six months into working at barstool really you know flip phone retexting. I knew it were you doing like t9 I had an envy one It was like the it was a sick. It was a flip open keyboard and I had an iPod touch Wi-Fi shit phone till I was like 24 is blackberry. Yeah, all right anything else anything else we missed being a kid rocked Yeah, really was the best coloring

I was bad at coloring. Being able to be completely oblivious to all politics. Yeah. I try really hard to be oblivious, but it seeps in. But when you were a kid, who the fuck cares? Not having a frontal lobe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're getting there. Yeah. There were a couple things I thought of that were close to both of yours. One of them, laser tag. The laser tag's a good one.

I have a take. I think laser tag is the most overrated thing. I don't think you went to the right laser tag. They're all bad. No, no, not, not ultra zone paint. Every time I play laser tag, I wish I was playing paintball.

But paintball, you have to wear, like, I don't want to get, it's the fun of paintball without getting hurt. And laser tag, it's dark. You got, like, black lights. You're sneaking through mazes and shit. Paintball was fun last year. Yeah, paintball was a lot of fun. And also go-karts. Oh, go-karts, yeah. Go-karts, but I thought it was close to right here. And they also do have, like, adult go-karts.

We did it. Yeah. We did it in Nashville a few years ago. And for an ad, too. Yeah. It was fun. But that's different. No, I know. If it's for an ad, it's different. Oh, man. I used to just want to stop at every go-kart place.

My dad would just not let me. I was just like, fuck. I feel like roller coasters are kind of like, you can't just go to an amusing park and just like, I guess you can. Yeah, having the thrill of being on a golf cart too. Like when, going on a golf cart when you're a kid was awesome. Water parks? Yeah. Water parks. Although water parks are still fun. They're still fun, not the same. Not the same. Batting cages? Still fun, not the same. Yeah. Batting cages. Batting cages. All right. Good show, boys.

We have the random number generator because we forgot to do the lottery balls. So do you want to win this? Yeah, of course. Okay. Numbers. I don't want this. 20. 56. I'll go 20. I'll go 11. Okay. I'll go 8. Huey? 42. 42 for Huey. Jonah? 47. 3 for memes. Shane? 21. All right. Shane, you watching? 11. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it says 11.

Wait, did you get 11? Yeah, Max gets 11. Hey, congrats, Max. Congrats, Max. That's awesome. Huge. Yeah, Max. Max finally got it. Shane, you were looking at it. Does it not say 11? Wait, you actually get 11? Yeah, I mean, it doesn't count as the lottery ball. Good job, Max. Yeah, you've gotten the random number generator. That's so sick. 100%. It was actually 11, Shane? Yeah. Good job, dude. Was there a camera on it? Good job.

My eyes, but... Yeah. Good job, Max. Max, that's so sick, dude. Show the fucking thing. That's so sick, Max. That's so sick, dude. I still think you're fucking with me. I mean, well, because it's like the lamest thing to win is this. I mean, I don't care. You can't ask the question anymore. No, I can. Have you ever gone to the lottery ball machine?

I got the number. Have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I got the number. Answer the question. Have you ever gotten the lottery ball machine? I got the number. No, you've never gotten the lottery ball machine. All right, fine. This is a win. No, it's not. The best part is there's always going to be a shred of doubt in Max's mind that it was actually true. It wasn't 11. It's okay. What was it? It was not 11. How did you do that? I just kept on hitting it until it became 11. Yeah. Yeah.

I got my guy back here. Wait, was it 11? Yeah, it was 11. It was 11, Shane? Look, 11. I know that, but yeah. 11. Easy. That was easy. That is the number 11. Ask our econ guy. Get this. So it's firmly in there. 11. Bang. Way to go, Max. I'm happy. That's a win. I can tell how happy you are. Yeah, that's a win. All right. See everyone on Wednesday. Love you guys. Talking about that.

I don't know what I'm about to say, I'll say it anyway. Today is my day to find you. Shine it away. I'll be coming for your love, okay? Shine it away. I'll be coming for your love, okay? So yeah, you're going on a date on the way. We don't need less to say. It's so little that I know my life is okay. Say I'm too late to be safe, I'm sorry. Say I'm too late to be safe, I'm sorry. Things like this, all things have come about. Shine it away.

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