Joe Burrow, Mt Rushmore of Meat, MLB All Star Teams, And Are We Now A Bronny James Podcast?
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And the boys are back in town. We're back in town. We're back. I think we picked a decent week to take the vacation because the one thing that you have to always be on the lookout for the week of the 4th of July is the Friday afternoon news dump. Yeah. And we didn't even get really one of those. No. It was like Biden might not run for president. I don't want to get political, but I did. That tweet, I don't know if you guys saw. I quote tweeted it the other day. Someone was like,

It's telling that all these people who love politics have just never been through a coach being fired before. And it was the most apt analogy ever because it is where we are. One of the things that I think we do better than anyone is we can tell you when a coach is on the hot seat. When he gets that sad look at the podium. And they are literally doing the like he's going to give up the offensive play calling just so he can coach the whole team. Well, pretty much what's going on is the DNC is saying Joe Biden is our candidate. Yeah.

We have a full vote of confidence in Joe Biden right now. So they're just doing all the moves. Everything's going to be fine. But we are back. It feels good to be back. What do you guys want to talk about? You guys want to talk about Bronny? So we can talk Bronny. You want to do that right off the bat? Let's fucking talk about Bronny. The dude, I don't know if you saw, but Bronny. Biggest four points in NBA history. Dude, he hit a layup in transition. Holy shit. Yeah.

And LeBron Watson said, damn, that's tough. This is great. I hope there's some Bengals fans that are tuning in for the first time and they're like, what is this podcast? It's about Bronny. Yeah. This podcast is about Bronny. We're just a Bronny, James, and Charlie Woods podcast. Can I say something about Bronny? I really don't like the fact that he's going by Bronny. Why not? His name's LeBron James Jr. Just go LeBron James Jr. I don't like calling, like, it's even in the box score. It's B. James. Yeah, I don't like that. Bronny.

I agree with you. Your name is LeBron James Jr. I wasn't sure where you're going until you told me the box score thing. Yeah. That's weird. It's annoying. It should just go by Jr. And also, it would be cool if he ever got in a game and it was L. James and L. James Jr. right next to each other. Remember when he said he wouldn't wear his dad's number because he doesn't want people to know who he is? Yeah. Now he's just... So that's probably why. He doesn't want people to... Maybe they'll think that he's not...

LeBron James Jr. That's true. Because his name's Brawny, not LeBron. Now they're just literally doing 69. Now he's a guy that would just go out there and you'd be like, why is that guy on the team? Is he like LeBron James' son or something? Yeah. No, that's Brawny. Oh, it's Brawny. Yeah, it can't be his son. They should do the Brazilian method and just go LeBron Nino. Ooh, I like that. Yeah. I got a take about Brawny. I actually kind of am addicted to how mad Brawny's making everyone.

Because it's like the updates on ESPN are like, Bronny has a transition layup. Bronny has an assist. Watch LeBron James Jr. Oh, it's not. Watch LeBron react to Bronny's two points. Yeah, it's an ecosystem. And everyone's getting so mad, and it's very funny because this is how I consume sports. I also was like, this is...

by LeBron. It's a very egotistical play. Yeah, it's cool. They're playing together. And then as soon as everyone got very upset, I was like, actually, I kind of like this because it's a fucking NBA Summer League and they know what they're doing. How do they do all-star voting? Is there a fan vote?

Yeah. So what we should do next year is just we should try to get try to get Bronny into the All-Star game. Yeah. People get mad about his contract. Yeah. It's great. Well, fully guaranteed. Well, that was a big time ball knowers. And I did not know ball until I looked it up. But that is also part of the new CBA. So the new CBA has different contracts for second round guys. Tyler Kolek, who is a Knick.

Went to Marquette. Also very funny when Josh Hart just... Celtic. What? Tyler Kolek. From Marquette. Oh, right. New York. Who'd you think? He was thinking Sam Houser. Not everything's about you, Hank. The other white guy. Yeah. That was crazy. We talking Celtics? Are you thinking of Bailey Shireman? Yep. Yep. Yeah. Just another big East guy. White big East guy. Completely different player. Okay. We're back. Anyway, Tyler Kolek. There was like a fake...

Twitter troll started a rumor that Tyler Cola couldn't read. This happened last year during Big East play. And Josh Hart on his podcast with Jalen Brunson was like,

Can he read? He legit was like, I don't know if he can read or not. Yeah, so every time somebody gets ball sacked out there, there's always like 5% of people that never realized that it was a joke. Right, they just keep going around with it. Right, so anyway, Tyler Kolek did break the record for, I think, most money for his second round pick. So he got, what was his exact contract? He had guaranteed money, $6.6 million. So, Bronny...

Probably didn't deserve a non-two-way contract, but the new CBA does have very different contracts for second-round picks. So people were like, this guy five years ago got paid...

for blueberries and brawny gets 7.9 million uh-huh that is partially the new cba i think i do i don't hate maybe i will become a brawny stan i don't know i i think that uh fuck it maybe lebron pulled this move just so he can write two million dollars out of his son's inheritance yes he's like that's just two million less than i you're getting this up front yeah well there was there was the lebron took three million dollars less than the actual max he could have had

He did do that. And everyone's like, oh, he was just stashing away for Bronny. But I also think that in his new contract, if he gets traded, he gets like an extra kicker that goes in. He does have a no trade clause, but he can accept a trade, and then I think he would make like $3 million. Yeah. He said he'd take less. He then took the max, or $3 million less than the max. Yeah.

Yeah, DeMar DeRozan didn't.

He was a sign-and-trade. Yeah, he was a sign-and-trade, but he was probably the last good player that was out there. Yeah, well, yeah, he wanted Clay, Valanchunas, and they got nothing. Yeah, DeMar DeRozan is now a Sacramento King, and the Bulls yet again mistimed an asset, but...

They're kind of on the right direction of trying to be bad. Well, DeMar DeRozan, he wanted to leave the Bulls after the Josh Giddey trade, after the Caruso for Giddey trade, somewhat similar to our rule that we have in our Dingers-only league, where he's like, I'm allowed to exit this team. I must say that the NBA did investigate

I don't want to defend Josh Giddey, but he's a bull now. They didn't mind anything. When Big Cat told me that he jumped on just to talk about the Josh Giddey trade, the only thing I could think of was Caruso for Giddey is a real-life version of pervert or Italian. Oh, man, and I love Alex Caruso. But yeah, the bulls, DeMar DeRozan's gone. They're trying to blow it up. They mistimed everything. I saw a crazy DeMar DeRozan stat, and I didn't verify it. I didn't look it up to see if it's true. Those are the best stats. I think he scored...

Almost as many points as Steph Curry. Okay. In his entire career. Let's find out. Let's find out. All right. I saw that. I was like, whoa. Career point. Is that stat real? I'll just talk to the boys. Okay. He has 23,582. I mean, he's played longer and he's played a lot of games. Yeah.

And he was the number one option on not. Yeah, he has scored 150 less than Steph Curry. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool. And he's done it the hard way. Yep. With twos, not threes. Yep, that's right. The showboating Steph Curry. Old-fashioned. Or you could say Steph Curry's probably insanely more efficient. No, I would just say DeMar DeRozan is the working man Steph Curry. Yeah. But yeah, the Bulls are going to blow it up for the next year until the Reinsdorfs are like, hey, let's win 40 games again.

That'd be nice. And they'll go back to that. What other... We also had in NBA news Kevin Durant, who got hurt, I guess, during...

Olympic scrimmage. Also shout out Anthony Edwards who said the team has to, everyone has to do it around him. It's not a fit in. They have to fit in with me, not the other way around. I like that. He's just a bulldog. But Kevin Durant did a sit down article with Yahoo Sports and was essentially like everyone just does the smashes the Kevin Durant thing.

could-be-traded button for clicks. We should get that button. Yeah, I mean, listen, that definitely happens. Kevin Durant is someone who's very online. You of all people should know that happens. But also...

You have been on a good amount of teams in the last few years. He's been on four teams, right? Yeah, well, he's been on four teams, and he's been on, what, three teams in the last four or five years? Yeah. But yeah, he said, yes, it's a button. What else is going to get people going around this times? Oh, the journeyman is leaving again. That story is always going to hit. Now, I did hear that Kevin Durant was unhappy and wanted to be traded. Yes. And so I think that if you're Kevin Durant and you're on those suns,

You want to leave, right? Tune in to Wednesday's part of my take where we actually will have the inside scoop on Kevin Durant possibly being traded. I hear he's unhappy. People are going to think we have him on the show. We do not have him on the show. I think that ship has sailed. Yeah. LeBron would want to be traded to the Suns.

Well, he wants. He wants all the Suns. Yeah, he wants them all. And he wanted. That was the one team that Bronny was allowed to go to. Oh, really? Yeah, it was the Suns or the Lakers. Would they have to change the spelling of the name? I don't know. But he ended up on the Lakers. It's crazy. Yeah, I... What other... We've got All-Star Game snubs. Yes. Now, if I'm a baseball player and I get snubbed for the All-Star Game, I'm secretly excited about it. Because at least you get to go have, like, three days where you don't have to work. Yeah, although it's probably pretty cool. I mean, it's such a...

I always think with the all-star game in baseball, it's a short enough time that you'd probably just rather be in the all-star game because it is three days. You know, if it was a full week, I'd be like, yes, not me every time. Um,

We have a problem because Christian Jelic might be returning to form and he is in the All-Star game, which makes me very nervous that he's going to potentially compete in the Home Run Derby. And he's got an axe to grind. No one drafted him. And where is the All-Star game this year? I know, but I'm asking Max because he loves... I was about to say it, so yeah, I'll just let Max say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you were about to say it, Hank. Obviously. Yeah. Boston? It's not Boston. Come on. It is in...

Max can't even Google it. Max, I thought you knew it.

You don't know where it is, Max? This is embarrassing, dude. Everything's bigger there. Oh, it's in Texas. Yep. Globe Life? Is it in Globe Life? Yep. Okay. We'll have to look and see how that does for lefties. Yeah. Listen, he's hit, what, three home runs in the last couple games? Yeah. So it's a small sample size. Well, he might have taken it personally that he wasn't drafted in Dinger's own. Well, he can suck my ass. Yeah. We might have to. Tune in soon. We'll have to stream that. That will be...

Quite something. Streaming eating each other's asses? No, watching Christian Yelich potentially making us do a stream where we eat each other's asses. Yeah. This is going to suck. I'm confident. I'm confident. He was washed. He still is washed. I like Christian Yelich a lot.

He's a friend of the program, been a friend of the program for a long time. But, dude, don't do it. You're going to get hurt again. Your back's going to hurt. Oh, is Pete Alonzo going to be in it? Pete Alonzo with the Home Run Derby is the worst. He is the biggest loser in sports when the Home Run Derby comes around. It's one of my all-time meatball...

Sports brain takes that when Pete Alonzo gets talked about potentially for being on the Cubs, I'm like, I don't want him. He cares too much about the home run derby. He did. He gets laser focus. He meditates backstage. Yeah. He goes into like a little panic room by himself in between rounds and just focuses and visualize home runs. That's in the

And the Home Run Derby isn't even that fun anymore. No, they changed it. Did they? They made it fun. They made it fun again. They refunded? They refunded. What are they doing? They are doing, I think it's swings now, right? No, it's the same way initially. I think it's still like two and a half minutes. But it's not head-to-head either. But then they get, I think it's four extra outs after they do the...

We need to look this up. Okay, we got to look it up. We got to look it up. I'm pretty sure that's... Look it up. Home Run Derby rules. I'm pretty sure... The Home Run Derby used to be the best night of the summer. Yeah. It was so awesome. I loved watching the Home Run Derby. The old rules made it... So the problem with a new Home Run Derby is you don't get to appreciate each dinger because the next dinger is already hit while the last dinger is in the air. Then you have to watch the score bug to see if the last dinger went out or not. Yeah. All right. They didn't really change it.

I disagree with my own statement. It's still three hours.

It's still three minutes. Yeah, I don't like that. I'm pretty sure they get additional outs, though. Yeah, but who cares about additional outs? Yeah, that's not our problem. I want it to go back to 10 outs and guys taking balls over and over. And what, the 10th ball was worth two? Yeah, and you could just sit there and just marinate in it. Watch the dingers fly. Not, oh, who can hit the most dingers? Oh, this one lands before the next one. Or this one doesn't land before the next one's even hit.

Josh Hamilton, Bobby Abreu. There are no, they did change. It's not head-to-head until the semifinals, which I do like that. That's better. That's a little bit better. So it'll just be the top four. Three-minute round, 40 pitches, one timeout, three bonus outs. Yeah, the bonus outs don't do anything. Now, was it three minutes with 40 pitches last year? Or was it just three minutes? Oh, yeah, you might be right. You might be right.

Because that's... I think that's better. This is some good podcasting. I feel like we're getting back in... It's like training camp for us. We took one week off. I know personally, I spent an entire week just saying, put your shoes on and then watching Paw Patrol. So my brain is mush. I haven't talked to like adults for...

for like a real meaningful conversation in a while. But yeah, I feel like in your sick PFT, I'm sick. I also spit the last week just negotiating with street vendors. Oh, my friend. Best price. My friend. Yeah. In Greece. I love Greece. They don't pay taxes. Greece. They don't know. That's why their whole economy did taxes in Greece. And this is this could be. I paid a lot of taxes while I was. This could be totally made up. But as far as I know, and this is based on a Twitter thread I read a few years ago, it's

In Greece, taxes are optional. And then their economy just crumbles every 10, 15 years. They're like, hey, we should probably start paying taxes. Their club soccer teams should be a lot better then if you don't have to pay taxes. That's how you get all the good players. I think they might charge foreigners taxes, but the actual...

They don't. They just it's a it's kind of like a leave a tip or not. Yeah. They're like, oh, should I do my taxes? Now I'm not going to do it this year. I love Greece. It was a great place. But I just kept thinking about Stavi when I was over there. Yeah. Also, shout out Stavi gave me a great recommendation to go get a euro in Athens. And I showed up and I was 10 minutes late and it closed. Oh, no. So I'm very bummed out about that.

How do they close the Euro shops in Athens? Well, let me tell you a little story about how Greece works. Nothing opens until like 11 a.m. because everyone stays out until like 2.30 a.m. Yeah. And then they open for lunch for like two and a half hours and then they don't open again until like 7 or 8 p.m.

I also had a guy tell me, yeah, you'll make it there by about 7 in the afternoon. Yeah, oh. That was weird. Yeah, that is weird. All right, I just Googled it. Yes, currently more than half of Greek households are exempt from any personal income tax. Okay, that rocks. That feels like a lot. And you can also, yeah. How do you get on the bad 50%? I don't know. You got to make a lot of money probably. I think it's a cultural thing. Just like earn your stripes?

Well, I don't know if it's cultural or not. I think it's just seniority. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a cultural thing because this is a very funny headline. Did Greeks fail to pay 89.5% of taxes? They're just like, that's actually genius. If they say, what if we just all didn't pay taxes? They can't audit everybody. Right. I think it's cultural. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. All right. Stick it to the man. Yeah.

Yeah, they just, a lot of them just, they do it as optional. I think we should probably take that. Yep. Where were we? Oh, MLB All-Star. Hank's been doing that for years, leading from the front. Great tangent. Great tangent there. MLB All-Star game. All-Star game. Yeah, that's...

It always happens when we talk about non-football sports. But timestamp this as baseball talk. In this week of sports, it's always like the all-star snubs. The reason I wouldn't mind being an all-star snub is because they would say, you get your own day where people are just mad and they're lobbying on your behalf. So you get that shine. It's like an afternoon and you also get, you have to be the number one snub. I know that the Mets fans are mad because Nemo and Lindor, my guy Christian Walker,

dingers only legend he went back to back nights hitting two home runs both nights uh he got snubbed christopher sanchez jordan westberg shout out the o's who who got who got snubbed there max christopher sanchez even though the phil like the entire pitching is the phillies pitching someone asked me um to ask you max have the phillies won a series against the braves this year

They've played twice. They lost two series. They're playing tonight. Were they going to win tonight? I want you to ask that person the last time the Braves beat the Phillies in a playoff series. Okay, I will. Also, since we're talking baseball, how did the team pug end up?

We got slaughter ruled in the playoffs. We only had a lot of our team was traveling for the 4th of July, so we had to scrape. But everyone who's in town went, right? Everyone except for Max. Max went to 12 baseball games last week. Couldn't miss the game on Tuesday because he had to go on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. Max is doing load management? I went Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday. And our team got slaughter ruled.

Well, Hank didn't even show up to the start of the game. I started the game. Oh, no, Matt. Where were you? You let the boys down. I told the boys I wasn't going to be there. You gave them a notice that you were going to let them down? I think Garrett Stubbs recognized me. Oh, yeah. I think we mentioned it. Yep. Cut this. Wait, we didn't talk about this. I think we did. Max said, let's go. No, no, no. This is something different.

Oh, right. That's what we talked about last week. Yeah, this is different. Max had got a wink from the dugout. Okay, nice. So we're on show number two in a row of Max screaming at Phillies and maybe they recognize him. No, I didn't even scream at him this time. Did he or did he not? Did they or did they not recognize Max? I honestly don't know. This is now two shows in a row. Because he looked at me, gave me a nod, winked, and then he started going like this and saying...

the boat or like, are you driving the boat? And I was like, what? I couldn't picture what that meant. Yes. He thought you were Hank. Yeah. I think he thought I was Hank. Yeah. Oh, he thought duck boat. Or maybe the duck or. Yeah. I thought. Yeah. Or maybe he was referencing the story of the of the beer Olympics. Oh,

Got it. I don't know. I think he was saying it'd be a real shame if you crashed your boat. Yeah. Maybe. Which was not you. Yeah. Which is not me. So the Phillies think that you're Hank. That's cool. That hurts. Is that a win for Hank? No, that's a huge win for Hank. Yeah. And smart by them. They see a guy and they're like, that guy's somehow related to PMT. Oh, it's Hank. Wow, your hair grew back real fast, Hank. Yeah. Yeah.

That's tough. And you're sitting with a little baby bib in the booth right now having to go through. Because you texted me very excited. You said, we're back. Well, yeah. I didn't really understand the boat thing. As your team was getting slaughtered, Max was getting winks that were for Hank. Kind of. Who from the Phillies is in the All-Star game? Uh...

It is Bryce Harper, Trey Turner, Ranger Suarez, Zach Wheeler, Matt Strom. No Castellanos? Castellanos is not. Castellanos in the Home Run Derby would be awesome because it would be just tragedy after tragedy after tragedy happening somewhere. Yeah, Alec Boehm also, Hoffman. What's that, Hank? It would be like a bombing somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, it would just be the worst. A terrorist attack happens. A terrorist attack slash tornado. Like World War II. Yeah. Sharknado happens. All of these things happen at the same time. Okay. What else? That was great MLB talk, boys. It was really good. I really... Dinger's Only's going hot and heavy right now. We're off and running. NHL free agency?

Sure. I said my piece. I think the Blackhawks did a good job. That's my take. I think the Caps did a wonderful job as well. Celebrini, he's doing stuff. I think he signed his contract. Yep. That's cool. Also, hockey should just go away for like a month. No, that wasn't going to be my take. I was thinking about it. There are some jerseys, and I like the jersey...

In general But the San Jose Sharks Like they had a picture of him In the Sharks jersey And I was like This isn't a real franchise Looks kind of like A 1990s video game Yeah It's like let's make a Let's make a franchise I don't know You just put on the Well the Ducks The Ducks kind of had that vibe Going for them When they were The Anaheim Mighty Ducks Yeah And then they just switched it up And now they look like A real hockey team Yeah So good luck to Celebrini He's going to be great Um

Yeah, I'm trying to think what other big stories. Michael Rubin's White Party. That was cool. Yeah, we were there. For no one except the people there. We were definitely there. So sick.

That was so sick. Ah, man. Joe Burrow was there. Was he? Yeah. He had a sleeveless, like, white button-down shirt. Good for Joe. And we'll get into this with Joe when we talk to him. But going into the interview, I was a little worried that Joe's gone Hollywood on us. Yeah, you said that to me before. Yeah, I was a little bit worried. I can confirm that Joe Burrow is still as cool as he ever was. Yeah, he's not Hollywood. He's the man. He's so cool. Tom Brady got picked off by DeMar Hanlon on the beach. Oh, really? Okay. Let's see.

Because we're doing some loose podcasting right now. There's not a lot going on in the sports world. And we're coming back player of the year next year for DeMar. Well, we're feeling our way back into the podcasting game. How long is DeMar Hamlin going to get invited to these things? I think if he plays his cards right for a long time. Forever? Yeah. Okay, good for him. I'm not judging him. It's just like...

I saw him pick off Brady. I was like, oh, shit, is that Tamar Hamlin? Oh, he's there. Okay. And Grant Williams is my favorite, like, just pops up at all these parties. I don't know how that he just he must, like, wash the dishes or something after. Like, he helps out around the house. I have no. He doesn't get a straight invite.

He's like Ruben's like, oh yeah, Grant, you can come. Can you just park a couple cars before and then you're welcome to come in? Maybe someone's plus one. Yeah, who's he dating? I don't know. Yeah, he didn't even get a tribute video. He's getting a white party invite. Everybody at the white party should be somebody that gets a tribute video. But I like that Grant Williams is there just because it's very funny to see him pop up. And DeMar, good for him. Just keep doing it. You think Tom let him pick that off?

I don't know. I feel like Tom Brady was pissed. Yeah. I feel like anytime Tom Brady has a football in his hand, he's like, am I back? Yeah. Like, am I going to do this? You were the fake punt? Those are the VP of the Players Association, so maybe he's just a great people person. I don't know. Grant Williams. Oh, is he? Yeah. Oh, okay. So that might be why.

Yeah. Wait, so who's the president? Is that Chris Paul? I think so. No, it's CJ McCollum, I think. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right. Yeah, that white party, that was cool. That was really, really cool. So in all honesty, I think this was the first time that the white party happened that I thought to myself, I never, ever want to be there. No, because it was also like if we were in that, we would know some people.

But I think we'd get a lot of people being like, those guys are way too ugly to be here. Yeah, I would definitely stick out. I would probably be asked to leave the second I stepped in. Yeah, and I'd spill on myself instantly. Yeah, and it's a white party. Right, right. So there's no chance that you would be able to say, was Embiid there? Oh, yeah. Oh, of course. Meek Mill was there holding the trophy. Drake looked sad.

I saw one picture. He kind of looks sad. Yeah. He's got to have going for worst summer ever. Drake. Yeah. Well, he had the video. Kendrick Lamar's video for Not Like Us came out. And then while he was at. Well, he was at the white party, which is. And then everyone's watching the video while he's at the white party. Right. And then DeMar DeRozan came out when the when the Kings introduced him to not like. Yeah. So it's just going to that song is just going to be around for the entire. So probably much longer than that. Yeah. So I don't I don't know what he's going to do about this.

Yeah, good for the white party. I don't think Embiid was there. I don't think so either. Because he should be. Yeah, he's been. But like Kevin Durant and Devin Booker were there. Kevin Durant got hurt. Well, I know the white party happened before he got hurt. Oh, fuck. So when did you think they did the white party? I don't know.

Speaking of white parties, we've got an update here from Chet Hanks. Oh, yes. White Boys Summer was created to be fun, playful, and a celebration of fly white boys who love beautiful queens of every race. Anything else that it has been twisted into to support any kind of hate or bigotry against any group of people is deplorable, and I condemn it. I hope that we can all spread love to each other and treat each other with kindness and dignity. Love, Chet.

Chet Hanks. You know he's serious when he ends it with Chet Hanks, not Chet Hayes. Yeah. So don't get it twisted. People trying to co-opt white party. Yeah. White Boy Summer was supposed to be positive. White Boy Summer, yeah. Yeah. Don't take it away. I don't think Embiid was there anymore. Okay. Was Tatum there? He brought the trophy. He did. Because he doesn't have aura if he doesn't have the trophy. You've got to bring him.

Yeah, that's actually sad. Like the fact that he brought that as a... Hank, you have to admit the fact that he brings the trophy with him everywhere he goes. He's like... Yeah, hockey players would never... It's me. That's different. The Stanley Cup is different. He's like a guy who gets a puppy trying to get a chick. Yeah. I mean, if you guys won an NBA championship, you'd do the same thing. It's me, remember? NBA champion Jason Taylor. I would never bring the trophy anywhere. Ever.

Yeah, you wouldn't like follow the trophy around. That's the Stanley Cup. Big difference. Also, you can drink. That's the best trophy in sports. You can drink out of the Stanley Cup. What do you use the NBA, Larry O'Brien for a giant dildo? You think anyone's ever brought around the Lombardi trophy? People don't just bring that around. Absolutely. That's not like a traveling trophy. No. The Stanley Cup is the only traveling trophy. That's a fact.

I also don't think that you guys are arguing that you guys have aura. Like if, if the argument is who has more aura, big cat or Jason Tatum, that is not a good sign for Jason Tatum. Yeah. And also I, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the fact that you, that you're walking into a party with the NBA championship trophy, it's like, Hey, remember me guys? Yeah. Hey,

Hey, to finish off the baseball talk, there is no worse trophy than the World Series. That trophy stinks. Yeah, it's a bad trophy. That trophy's just literally like, hey, how can we make a trophy that looks like it's going to break at any moment? The coolest part about that trophy was when George Costanza dragged it around the parking lot and it broke everywhere. I was like, yes, that's what I want to see that trophy do. It really is. It's really a blowout when you go from the Stanley Cup to the World Series. The World Series trophy...

The problem with it is it looks cool if it's in a glass container, but to actually celebrate with it, you can't celebrate with it. Right. You can't do anything. You're going to fall down and hurt yourself with it. Yeah, you're going to break one of those flags. I would say the crystal ball that they used to have for college football. Yep. Great trophy. That was a great trophy. Bring that trophy back. That was a great trophy. I'd put that at power ranking number two, actually. We should do a Mount Rushmore. I think we have. Of trophies? Yeah, but just be like...

You get one pick. Okay, you want to do impromptu? Okay. All right, I'll go first. Stanley Cup. Lombardi. Larry O'Brien. Low Man. Good pander pick. That was a good pander pick. Yeah. That was a good pander pick. Memes? Memes panicking. World Series is still there, memes. World Series is still there, memes. Would a gold medal work? No. Not a trophy. Not a trophy. World Cup. What about like a rivalry trophy? Yeah, Paul Bunyan's axe. Yep. Yep. That's a good pick.

Oh, we could actually do this. AVN. All right, we'll do this. Do this at some point. Yeah, no, we absolutely could do this. Okay. Anything else before we do who's back of the week? I think we covered all the sports. I think we got everything. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's do who's back of the week. Who's back of the week is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light.

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Okay. Shout out to Jake. I saw a very wild stat today, speaking of golf. Don't. What are you going to do? Okay, go ahead. This is wild. We'll be the judge of that. What is your stat about? Living. Oh, okay.

I thought you were going to talk about that stat that's going around that's very mean that just has every single Chicago sports team ranked this past year, and they're all in last place. I wasn't. I'm pro-Chicago. I want Chicago sports to be well. It's Bears last, NFC North. Bulls fourth, Central Division. Cubs last, NLC Central.

NL Central, Blackhawks last Central Division, White Sox last AL Central, 3-7-9 combined winning percentage. Interesting they don't have the draft order on there, though. That's true. Number one pick, Bulls had the 11th, Blackhawks had the second. Hank, are you going to address the necklace? Oh, yeah. I got my Jalen Brown necklace. It's a good one.

I'm bio-streaming chemicals into my insides without having the side effects of things like caffeine. So I get all the effects of them. You don't like coffee? It uses small musical frequencies to activate the cells. Is that the buzzing we hear? It's nanobots. No. Okay.

But yeah, it's awesome. You should get one, PFT. I love it. I do want one very much. Can I get a hit of it? You want some streams? You look like, honestly, it looks cool. It looks stylish. Kind of like a dog shock collar, though. Yeah, dog shock collar. Yeah, it looks like some type of... I keep thinking it's a visor that you're going to put on. In the picture on the thing, in the brochure, they had a lady that wore it like this. I don't know how you tighten it.

But she had it around her head like a visor. Oh. Your hair grows fast. It does really. Yo, let me get a hit. Let me get a hit. All right, so what's your stat? It's not the insult stat. Yes, I saw everyone tag me saying, don't let me see this. I saw it many times. For the last three years, each winner of the John Deere Classic has stayed in the same rental home in Illinois. Whoa. It's officially the Trophy House. Davis Thompson, Sepp Strzoka, JT Paustin. How do you get this over your head? In the same...

In the same exact place? Same rental home. Holy shit. That's wild, right? That is wild. Big tournament, a lot of big field, pretty random golfers. That was about life? What? You said it was about life, the stat. That's wild.

I said golf. Oh, golf. So how much is that? Oh, I think you said life, but you meant to say golf. I think you said living. Yeah, you said living. I think you said living and you meant to say golf. Or living in the house. I don't know. No, I think life is golf synonymous for you. Living. Living is golf. If you can't golf. You screwed that up. I don't think so. If you can't play golf. I believe you. You said life, living, and you meant to say golf. You said it's about living. Yeah. So you're like, if I can't golf, then I die. Yeah. True. True.

But yeah, it's wild. That is wild. How much do you think they're going to be able to sell that house for next year? I mean, yeah. I don't know how the bidding process goes for getting that house, but if you're playing in the John Deere and you're not trying to do whatever you can to get in that house. You could win it. You could win John Deere. Yeah, rent it right now for next year.

Man, I'm fucked up off this necklace. I'll look into it, yeah. It's good stuff, right? You're probably feeling much better. Yeah, I'm feeling awesome. Hank, how excited are you for this golf tournament we're going to? I'm getting my balls now. I'm excited. It's going to be sick. I'm very excited. Also, we're not golfing. I had to break that to Hank today.

No, I thought you were... No, this was about a video. I thought at one point you were golfing. I knew I wasn't. I thought you were golfing and we were filming. So the Tahoe, the chill week, we've always wanted to go to this tournament. There's like a ton of people we want to interview. It's going to be awesome. Yeah.

But so when we were setting this whole thing up, the American Century Celebrity Golf Tournament people have been super, super nice. We're like so pumped to be out there. They asked us if we wanted to play in the program. They're like, what are your handicaps?

And I think we made the right decision. We're like, this is a bad idea because there's going to be a lot of people standing around and we might kill someone. Yeah, that was our big nervous moment. We were thinking about doing the pro-am thing with Brooks last year at the Live Tour where there are going to be people that are potentially standing on the sides of the tee box. Yes. And that's bad. Yeah. So we're not golfing, but we will be there. I think we're caddying for a couple of the guys. We're going to do some videos. We're going to get some awesome interviews for...

The AWL, some really awesome ones. I'm very excited about a bunch of them. Are we allowed to take celebrity shots? Maybe we can ask. For the celebrities? We can ask. I think I've seen people do it. Well, the problem is I don't know what the vibe... I think guys really want to win this. I thought the stuff you guys are doing is like the practice round. We are. It's not like... People want to win, but... Blake Griffin takes golf very seriously. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think he wants... Oh, did you guys see? I saw a TikTok account. They're bringing back honking in people's backswings, and it's so fucking... Oh, I love that. Yeah. Jackass. Jackass when they bring the ear horn up to the golf course. Dude, I love it so much. I watched an hour of these TikToks the other night. Just guys getting so angry. And they would just... They would honk in the backswing, and...

And someone else from the foursome would stand up and they would just like kind of fake them out and they would still honk in their backswing and then they drive off. I used to do that when I was just driving by the golf course in my hometown when I was like a teenager. Just got my car. I would just drive by the golf course. Every hole I would just lean on the horn because what are they going to do? They can't chase you. You don't think it's funny, Hank. No, you don't. Which sucks because it's funny. It's so funny.

It's so funny. Baseball players, they swing when people are honking and making noise and whistling in their backswing all the time. Why can't a golfer do it? I think if people were cheering the whole time, that'd be one thing you can get used to. But the silence. Oh, this is oxy. You are probably the same guy that said it's not cool when people post videos of them running over their friends with a golf cart. Those videos are funny. Those videos are very funny. Right. Honking in a backswing is funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He doesn't think it's funny. It's funny, but I don't want to say it's funny. It happens to you and it's not funny. If it happened to me, it'd be funny. It'd be like, remember when I was shooting free throws and the kid just yelled out the window, Hank, that whatever, Patriots fucking suck. Yeah. I missed my free throw. And it was funny. Yeah. That was a very funny moment. Yeah. Okay. PFT, your who's back. My who's back of the week is Archie Manning.

Yeah. Archie Manning's back. This was, I believe, on Tuesday of last week, Wednesday of last week. The Clarion Ledger posted an article and a tweet, and it said, Archie Manning, Ole Miss football legend, dad of Eli, Peyton, grandfather of Arch, is 75. Yeah. Everybody thought that Archie Manning was dead. I 100% did. When you read that headline, you think, is dead at 75. And then you go back and you reread the headline, and you...

You don't know what the fuck they're talking about with this article. Like, why is this an article? Yeah. You have to assume that Arch's 75th birthday is today. No. When you read that. Plot twist, it's not even his birthday. He turned 75 on May 19th. Yeah. So for some reason, they just decided to write an article about his age, his best life accomplishments, how you know him, and then just ended the sentence. I guess they've been doing this.

Oh, this one newspaper? Yeah. And then Florio took him to task. Big time Spider-Man meme. Yeah, so Florio has never pronounced anybody dead. Mike Florio announced that Terry Bradshaw died 12 years ago. Listen, it's the Kevin Durant clickbait game. It is. What are you going to do? You got to get the clicks.

But it was a very funny headline because everybody thought that Archie Manning was dead for a second. 100% thought he died. And he's not dead. And listen, I don't want to get into talking about John Cena. He did announce that he was retiring from wrestling in the ring. He did. But it would be cool if you were Archie Manning. You'd probably get some people saying nice things about you. And they're like, oh shit, he's still alive. Yeah. I stand by that take. Do you think that if we had John Cena on at some point in the next year, which I think he's doing a year-long retirement ceremony for like...

Hey, like you think LeBron will retire? He would say, that's not funny to me. Some people just retired recently. I'm going through that myself. Do we want to get him back on the show? Sure. John Cena? Absolutely. Absolutely. I think John Cena is one of those guests that we have on every like four years. Just enough time passes that he just forgets that we exist.

And then he comes back on, he's like, oh, these guys? If he comes back on, we will definitely ask him how cool it was when people thought that you were dead for a second. Yes. That is a promise. We'll run it back. We'll run it back. And we'll see what his reaction... It might be totally different. Yeah, because he... Well, unless he has someone die. Yeah, we got to make sure that everyone around him is safe. Yeah, but I definitely want John Cena back on. Because, yeah, he's in that list of, like, I don't think he has any idea who we are. Although that one time he did want to fuck my belly button. Yeah. But it's...

But enough time passes where he's like, yeah, I'll do this podcast. And he doesn't realize until he's in the interview where he's like, shit, these guys again? He does so much media, too, that there's a good chance that he might just forget. Okay, we're going to try to get John Cena on. Talk about his retirement. Come on the show, John Cena. Yeah. Okay, my who's back of the week. I have two. One is Joey Chestnut.

Still the GOAT. So on July 4th, I don't know if you guys watched. I did not. The Nathans. I did not. I did not. They didn't have it on in Greece for some reason. The winner...

Listen, I feel bad for the guy because he basically didn't ask for this. He just went and won. He ate 58 hot dogs. Joey Chestnut in 10 minutes. Joey Chestnut did an event with the troops. He ate 57 hot dogs in five minutes. That's pretty good. That's pretty impressive. There's an asterisk around. Was it Berlitone that won? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, big asterisk. Yeah, I feel bad for him. That's not his fault. He just went and competed.

But it sucks because everyone's like, dude, that's not real. Joey Chestnut is the biggest thief of joy. We've talked about the Tom Brady's of the world, the Patrick Mahomes's that have taken joy away from so many different good quarterbacks and good fan bases.

Joey Chestnut is like that for anybody that's ever eaten anything. Yes. Like you'll never these these other guys are great eaters in their own right. And they'll never be known because they're not Joey Chestnut. Yeah. No, it's a fact. All right. Then my other who's back is, I guess, blowing up spots. I don't know if you guys saw this headline, but the Daily Mail on July 4th. I'll read a headline. Let's read a headline together.

Meet Derek Blasberg, Hollywood socialite accused of fleeing Gwyneth Paltrow's Hamptons home after catastrophic diarrhea, who counts Jeff Bezos and Demi Moore as pals.

So basically, Gwyneth Paltrow got on the phone with the Daily Mail after this guy left and said, I want you to put an article about how bad his diarrhea was. So I don't know if it was Gwyneth Paltrow because the whole article basically says this guy is so connected, but he's not like a list. People don't really know who he is. And apparently the diarrhea was so bad. The story just like word of mouth got back to the Daily Mail.

It's crazy. But he got, yeah, look, first of all, he tried to blame Ozempic.

which is so funny that he's like, oh, I had ozempic diarrhea. The internet was whipped into a frenzy last week when a blind item in a popular gossip newsletter claimed that Goop founder Paltrow had been faced with cleaning up someone's ozempic-induced diarrhea at her home. Insiders later told Daily Mail, Blasberg, once described as one of Showbiz's most well-connected men, was the culprit and that he had conveniently blamed the incident on the popular weight loss wonder drug before allegedly fleeing the property. And then it goes on to say...

Uh, it's not Ozempic. That's just what he told everyone. The insider said before revealing how the secret made it way through the Hampton set. Ready for this? Gwyneth told Oprah, Jerry and Jessica Seinfeld and Larry David.

And then it went from there somehow through the grapevine to... So this guy's diarrhea was the talk of the town. This is crazy. So this guy, Derek Blasberg, he has interacted with Gwyneth Paltrow in the past online. They're friends. They're friends. And he's saying... They're saying now it was not Ozempic related. No, they're saying it's not Ozempic related. And then it basically became the talk of the town in the Hamptons. And then finally it ended up...

On the front page of the Daily Mail. On July 4th. Just blowing up this guy's spot. Yeah. The guy is weird. They talked about Gwyneth Paltrow meeting him. For the first time. And Paltrow admitted she had questioned. If Blasberg was simply a professional hanger on.

When I first met him, I was a little dubious. I was like, are you a professional best friend of celebrities? And why are you everywhere at once? What's your deal? After 10 seconds, I fell completely in love with him. Sounds like she just fell for the professional hanger on. She admitted. She was like, this guy is a professional best friend of celebrities. Oh, my God, I love him. Please don't diarrhea in my house. This guy's got 245,000 Twitter followers.

And now he's just diarrhea guy. Now he's diarrhea guy. Like, you could do everything. You could have all these friends. You could write. I think he's a journalist. You could write a book. But you do one bad diarrhea in Gwyneth Paltrow's house. You're diarrhea guy. Derek Blasberg, diarrhea guy. Maybe if this Derek Blasberg guy is such a good friend to celebrities, maybe it was somebody else's diarrhea, and he's putting his hand up and taking the blame for it. You know what I'm saying? I don't know, man. What if it's Gwyneth's diarrhea, and he's such a good pal?

I think... He's like, just tell Oprah it was mine. But I think he is the exact... Like, that would be a normal thing for a regular person to do, but if his job is to be a professional hanger-on, you have to be like, diarrhea could ruin my whole career. You don't want to be known as the guy that you can't invite over to your house. He's got diarrhea. And now he's diarrhea guy. Like, forever. Has he made any comment about this? No, but I really want him to because I was thinking about it more like... This sounds like a notes app. I think...

There are definitely some crimes that you could come back from faster than diarrhea in Gwyneth Paltrow's house. Yeah. I mean, Marion Barry was arrested for smoking crack and then he got elected mayor of DC. Any like small drug paraphernalia. Yeah. Um,

Don't drink and drive, but a DUI, like Justin Timberlake, that's going to be a blip on the radar. He's not going to be a DUI guy. I'd even say robbing a bank is kind of cool. Tax fraud. Yeah. All these things, you can definitely bounce back faster than diarrhea in Gwyneth Paltrow's house. And she had to clean it up. She had to clean it up herself. I'm going to go to his website. Goop founder, Gwyneth Paltrow. I'm going to go to his website and see what he advertises here.

I mean, if I were him, I would just put on my own website, which is DerekPlasberg.com. I do not have diarrhea. Right. The diarrhea is fake news. There was no diarrhea. And if there were diarrhea, it was Ozempic diarrhea. Because it's clear he's ashamed of it if he's blaming Ozempic. This sounds like he might. Which is also just kind of a fuck. Think about that. It's like a fucked up.

Just comment on our society that the guy was like, oh, it was he's not even overweight. And he's like, yeah, it's the weight loss drug I'm taking that caused the diarrhea. And no one was like, hey, why are you doing that? They're just like, no, dude, that was your diarrhea. This guy also might be paid by Manjaro.

True. To say that it was impact gives you bad diarrhea that true. And it's, it's pretty fucked up this story because they just had like pictures of him and his partner and like their two kids being like blast. Blasberg welcomed his two children a couple of years ago. And it's the name of his kids.

In the diarrhea article? You can also have diarrhea and then not make somebody else clean it up. That's the bad part. Are we thinking just real bad stained porcelain? No, I assumed that it was in the bed. That he shit the bed? I think he shit the bed. I don't think this was a bathroom thing. I think this was a bed thing. He crapped in the bed and then Gwyneth had to clean it up. All the way to the bathroom and then he just left. He hightailed it out of there.

Derek, come on the show. Yeah, please come on the show. We won't call you. We'll introduce you as Diarrhea Guy. We will not call you Diarrhea Guy after that. We'll call you DG. Max, do you have a who's back? Not really. Caleb Martin. NASCAR. Caleb Martin. Also Anthony Edwards being the best. Yeah. Yeah.

The clip where he said he's the number one option. Yeah, that was sick. NASCAR is back, though. We went to the race. It was awesome. It did rain. Also had one of the weirdest...

interactions Hank and I did so we were at this thing beforehand PFT that was like a bunch of like athletes celebrities whatever and which are always fun when it's random like Super Bowl party when yeah it was very random bumping into people it was random like we bumped into like Dana White was there I was like can we go to the total chaos yeah but anyway we see Stephen Coletti

from Laguna Beach fame and we're like we gotta go we gotta go say what's up yeah I got excited before we could even say what's up he went up to Hank and was like hey Hank that's cool so he's a PMT listener oh shout out him sorry he was a PMT listener until I went up to him and I was like hey what's up man he's like hey big cat and I was like hey just so you know I'm a J guy and he was like

okay that like I dated Chris and Cavalieri like 20 years before and I was like yeah but I wanted that clear that I'm a J guy from the get go and it was so awkward he was a good sport about it but it was awkward that was such a moment in time yeah the Laguna Beach era I just listen I'm loyal I'm a loyal guy

Yeah, it always... Walk me a little to my guys. I mean, obviously, there's a lot of interactions we have with a lot of famous people, but it's always the people that, you know, when I was younger, like, when I watched Laguna Beach, I was, like, 11, so walking past him and him being like, what's up, Hank? Yeah. I literally thought it was a different person. I thought this was Steven, but the fact that he's talking to me means it can't be Steven. Steven, if you're listening to this right now, I apologize. I had to do that.

I have no regrets, but I apologize for making it awkward. Thank you for listening. You're a cool guy. You're also a very good-looking guy. We also were told...

This is not our finest moment. Someone told us that CT of Challenge fame was there, and Hank and I both just started going around like fucking drug dogs. We were just looking for him everywhere. Where is he? Where is he? Didn't find him? No, couldn't find him. Couldn't find him. I kept hoping. I was walking, being like, I think I got him. Is he the guy that got backpacked? No. Oh, come on. PFT.

I don't know. I never watched the challenge. He's sick. He's sick. I never watched the challenge. He's sick. Did CT get back? No, CT backpacked Johnny Bananas. Oh, I thought Johnny Bananas. And he tried to eat Adam's brain. Oh, I thought Johnny Bananas backpacked CT. There was one season. I got ball sacked. There was one season where CT was just, he clearly, I don't think it was in right head space. He didn't want to be there. And he just beat the fuck out of the smallest guy within like the first five minutes of the season and got kicked out. He's like, I'm going to eat your brain.

You know what would be good in Mount Rushmore is Mount Rushmore of celebrities that you had when you were younger that are just definitely not really celebrities to most people. Yeah. No, CT is. Yeah. CT for sure is a celebrity. The beer games made me think about that show and how like...

What we did for the beer games was similar to those shows where they would just get fucked up, but it would just all play out. Yeah, they would get... Because those fights and those scenes where you're watching, how are these guys saying this, and how is this happening every night? They're getting thrown in the pool. They just ply them with alcohol, yeah. And they're just like... And then wake up and go do a challenge. They put them in a house. And they get drunk again. No cell phones, no TV, unlimited alcohol.

Go. It's a pretty easy formula. It works every time. No board games. They're never playing Scrabble. In the last interaction we had, the beef with Joey Logano is still on. Good. Yeah, Joey Logano. Yeah, so I went up to him and I was like, hey, we...

You blocked me on Twitter Will you unblock me He's like Well what's your pitch For unblocking me I was like I actually don't have a pitch If you unblock me I'm just gonna tweet you Joey Slugano Yeah that's it Okay so I'm not gonna unblock you He's like that's fair Who was the NASCAR driver That came to the studio Like a month and a half ago Was it Chase

Yeah, that sounds right. Was it Chase? He just won the cup? Yeah, Chase. Yeah, so we were playing golf with him in the simulator, and I don't really know that much about NASCAR, so make it small talk. I was like, you know Joey Logano? He's like, yeah. I was like, how much of a dick is he in real life? And he like chuckled. I was like, I hate that guy. That's his closest teammate. Yeah. Oops, hand up. They are. But he is slow. He is slow. The thing about Joey Logano...

Slowie. He's fucking slow. And I am Blaney, Ryan Blaney. And I told him, I said to him, I was like, Hey, when you're in your car today, just think about how slow you are. Slogano is slow. And he was dead last for a while. Cause he's slow. Cause he was thinking, he was like, damn, I am slow. That, that, that, that big cat guy was probably right. He probably doesn't know my name, but he, that guy who came up to me and asked me to unblock him. He was right. He's slow. He's very slow, but shout out NASCAR. We had a great time. We got to walk around the pit row, uh,

But they do a great, great job, and they were very welcoming. What do you say, Hank? No, it was just a cool big event in the city. Yeah, it was awesome. They were driving the same streets we drive. Yeah, they were. I was driving the street on Friday, and I was like, look, I saw the fences on the side. Were you doing turns? I was like, I think I'm on the NASCAR track. Yeah. It is fun to pretend that you're driving NASCAR. Oh. Talking to people in the pit. Also, news that I got, we have, apparently, we have two...

race simulators in this office that are yet to be built. What? Yeah. I thought that we couldn't have simulators in this office, Hank. Yeah. I thought they were too big. I thought we were getting one. I think we're getting one. I think we have two. Yeah, we might be getting one back. What the fuck? Two. Spider was like, we got to build it.

But I'm so excited for it. If we get a massive, if like, you know, the U.S. Air Force wants to do a partnership with Barstool. Yes. And we will build an airplane. I will sign up. Yeah, I'll enlist in the Air Force if they install it. Take that back right now. No, no, no. I want to be very clear about what I'm saying. If they install like a real world F-22 Raptor flight simulator in this office, I will enlist in the Air Force. Take that back right now.

What are you then going to drop out? Yeah, I'm going to go AWOL. Am I what? Oh, yeah, you might be too old. I don't know what the rules are. Shit. I'll try to enlist. I'm tall enough. Yeah, I don't know if you're... I think we might be too old. I don't think they'd take us anymore.

That's kind of sad. Why would they? Yeah. Why would they? Because I'm an excellent pilot. Oh, this is weird. On my flight back from Greece, we land and then the pilot gets on the speaker, right? And he goes, I want you guys to notice that awesome landing that was just pulled off by our co-captain on this flight.

He's my son. Oh. This was our first father-son flight. It was like a little LeBron Bronny. Yeah, a little nepotism. No, you're good. You got three years. Okay, there we go. If we get an F-22 Raptor flight simulator in this office, I will enlist in the Air Force. Has to be full. They take 39-year-olds? 17 to 42 Air Force. Fuck yeah. Wow. Army's 17 to 35. Coast Guard's 17 to 41. Yeah. Dude, if it flies, it dies. Okay.

Let's get a simulator. Yeah, we have a racing simulator coming up. Marine 1728. That makes sense. Okay, let's

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Okay, here he is, Joe Burrow. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. One of our good friends. You can't tell the history of Pardon My Take without this man. It is Joe Burrow, Cincinnati Bengals quarterback.

First of all, great to see you, Joe. It's been too long. I actually want to compliment you at first because I think we haven't had you on since 2022. So before we do interviews, I always try to look and see if someone's on another podcast.

You basically only do this podcast. You did one other. I've done one other podcast. Yeah. But I have gone off the podcast train for a while. Yeah. You're ride or die. I think I've done your guys podcast. This would be the third time. This would be the third time. Yeah. Um,

And I think I've done a total of four. Okay, so I just want to say I see it and I appreciate it very much. Welcome home. Yes, absolutely. Also, I want to compliment you. I don't know if the cameras caught this, but right when the interview started, Joe fixed his hair. And then that thing fell down naturally. Does your hair thing fall down naturally? It does, yeah. I get out of the shower, I push it all back, and then that thing goes right there. It goes rogue. That's very cool. So we were going to interview Orlando Brown before you. We didn't get a chance to do that, so...

I'm going to ask you the first question I was going to ask to Orlando Brown. Oh, good. This is good. This is a good interview trick. That's okay. Has Joe gotten too Hollywood now that he's in fashion shows in Paris? Some might say I've gone Hollywood-ish.

I went Hollywood for a week, and now it's time to walk in for football. So I think I'm allowed one week of Hollywood, if that's... Yeah, I think so. I actually respected your answer when you said, I'm trying to get out of my comfort zone a little bit. Yeah. Try something new. It's definitely out of my comfort zone. Does that just mean... That is in Paris. That's just wearing suits with no back? Is that what that is? That's all of the above, man. You think it's all of the above? Are the bros going to be wearing backless suits this fall? I think so. I think backless suits are in.

good i'm in i'll wear i think you guys should wear backless suits yeah for some whatever event you guys have next take these if yeah maybe the take these sounds good it doesn't even have to be it can you just cut it back out of a suit you don't even have to like make it yeah just cut it it is showing your range that you were what was that was it paris fashion week it was

- It was Vogue World Fashion Show, yeah. - And now, to part my take. Two of the highest of high class. - Yes, I agree. - High society. Wait, so what happened when you showed, did you know you were wearing a backless suit? - I showed up and they gave it to me and I said sure, why not? - Okay, that's cool. Have you been roasted any group chats with the boys?

I've been roasted in just about every group chat I could possibly be roasted in. Yeah. But you did look cool when you did it. I did look cool and I was fully prepared for all of the criticism and roasting. I knew it was coming my way. Listen, I'm just going to throw this out there. If you ever need us, like we could be like a tag team party. You tag us in, you just throw us in your group chat for like a day and we just roast back and then you can kick us out. I'm all for it. Yeah.

You don't even have to say who it is. Just bring in a new number and then let that person go to town until they kick us out. Backless suits are in. I don't know if you guys are losers for not realizing that. I'm with that. Big time. All right. So I read a report recently.

That you are the that you are bigger and stronger than in years past correct you are yes How much bigger and stronger mmm 10 15 pounds ish? Okay. Yeah stronger stronger Yeah, you tell me how do you want me to come you look so strong? How many push-ups can you do? I haven't done any push-ups with my wrist this year. Okay. All right fair bad question by me squats squats Um, yeah squat a little more. How much stronger do you feel? I

I feel a lot stronger. Like if you were 100% strong two years ago, what are you now? 120% strong. Wow. That's good. Joe Burrow. So that's the headline right there. Joe Burrow feels 120% strong. There you go. That's good. Yeah. There was a moment a couple months ago when I feel like half the internet got tricked and they thought that you had really long hair. I know. I wish I had that

I don't have the patience for that hair. Yeah, I was like, do these people not see pictures of Joe Burrow where they know that his hair was never in that in-between phase? I think he just showed up one day with a Beatles haircut. Yeah, I could have got some extensions, I guess, but that was a pretty sick mullet. Yeah, it did look good on him. Was it the Star Wars haircut? Yeah. Yeah, it was good, but I was also shocked by how dumb people online were to get... Everyone felt like...

legitimate news breaking NFL accounts were like wow look at Joe's new look lots of lies about me out there I would say yeah what do you think the biggest lie about you is um well I had a bunch of people hit me up this week asking me if I was turning 30 this year uh oh and that's just not even close how old are you

Okay. Yeah, because this happens to us. People call us 40, and we're actually 39 and a half. Yeah, it's completely different. So it's crazy that people would do that to you. I wonder how that rumor got started. Did you know that Joe Burrow is 30? Yeah, I don't know. It's probably a rival fan base because I've been thinking about Jordan Love. I obviously hate the Packers, but I've been thinking about just saying Jordan Love is about to turn 30 because I think he's in his fourth year. He's in my class. Yeah, right. So I think I could get away with that just being like,

Yeah, if you want to sign a guy, he's about to turn 30. You can get away with just about anything on Twitter these days. Well, also, he went to school in Utah, in the States, so some people might be like, oh, he probably went on his mission overseas. He's 32 years old. Right. Okay. Yeah, Jordan Love is actually 32 years old. Wait, so you're 27. When's your birthday? December. Okay, so yeah, you're going to be 27 for the majority of the season. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good. And quarterbacks, come on, 27 is young. I got a good 10, 15, I would say, left in me. Is that the plan?

Like 15 years? 15, 42. See how the career plays out until then. Yeah, so I saw an interview of you where you said that you were thinking about maybe trying to join the USA flag football Olympic team. Yeah, that'd be sick, wouldn't it? Yes. We need you because we just lost to Japan.

Who? What? The U.S. lost to Japan. In what? In flag football today. No, we didn't. I think it was real football. Was it real football? I think it might have been real football. So the world's catching up. So I think it was like 41 to 20. They kicked our ass. Wow. That's real? Yes. I think so. Okay. We also could use you in handball if you want to do that. I'll stick to...

The football-shaped. Okay. Because handball, you dominate. Yeah. I don't know the rules of handball, but I'm confident I could pick it up. Yeah, you throw it in a goal. It's water polo without water, right? And we have a long feud with the handball community because they're like, no chance could U.S. win. I'm like, dude, yes, Joe Burrow could be an awesome handball player. Yeah. If-

if all the best athletes just trained handball from when they were five. Right. Exactly. Like LeBron and KD and Myles Garrett playing handball. Yeah. They actually call traveling and handball. So LeBron, maybe not, but yeah, Myles Garrett, I feel like that dude could do just about any sport. Oh, I got it. I got the biggest lie told about you. Um,

People use you as the NBA to NFL, NFL to NBA debate. They're like, Joe Burrow could drop 20. Because I think you might have said that. I could spot up in the corner and hit some threes, yeah. Okay. I'm not guarding those guys, and I'm not dribbling, and they're going to steal it from me. But I could play with LeBron and stand in the corner and shoot a couple threes. Yeah, so if you have to bring the ball up, it might be a problem. That would be a problem. Defense? Defense.

I mean, I could play great team defense. Okay, I like that. That's good. Any individual defense. I'm very confident in your defense. Yeah, like I'll get everybody situated in the 2-3 zone. Call out picks? Yes. Like I'll be standing in the corner guarding the guy in the corner, and then I'll go to the other corner and do my thing in that corner. I'll just go corner to corner. I did notice that you got a small look in your eye when you found out that we lost to Japan. Like I think you really want to play for the Olympics. I think that's disappointing. I really want to play for the Olympics.

Fly football team, yeah. Yeah. It's going to be awesome. Like me, Jamar, Justin –

Now you're just naming your friends. Yeah, me and my friends out there playing football in the Olympics. It's funny because if Joe's a guy that could be like, yeah, me and my best friends could beat anybody in the world in football. It's true. Which is a cool thing to say. That's a very cool thing to say. I think it would be really cool. Yeah, I think you can do it. We can't lose the gold medal the first time that we have that in the Olympics. It just can't happen. Yeah, that would be embarrassing. I had another question for Orlando here. Orlando. Orlando.

Who's the best quarterback that you've ever played for? So he's played for Lamar, Joe, and Patrick Mahomes. Time will tell. Yeah. It's a fair answer. I like that answer. Do you think people have forgotten about Joe Burrow? I believe that. Yeah. That's what happens when you get hurt, though. You don't play football. People forget about you. Yeah, which I kind of like the spot you're in right now because I feel like – I love the spot I'm in. Yeah, like AFC, everyone's like, oh, well, you know, Josh, Lamar, and Patrick –

C.J. Stroud's like, you're forgetting one guy. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. But, again, that's part of the game. You don't – if you're not out there and people aren't watching you, then there's nothing to talk about. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm going to give people something to talk about this year. I'm excited about it. I feel like the spot that you were in last year must have been tough for you because you – I don't know how involved you were with the team as you're on the sidelines, but being in that situation where your team's playing meaningful games and you just want to be out there and you're just like chomping at the bit, unable to be there, I feel like that has to take a small toll mentally at least, right? Yeah, very difficult, but I would say –

You know, this injury was different than my previous ones because, you know, it was my wrist. So I was like, I couldn't throw and I couldn't do my job, but I could still grind in the weight room and get all my workouts in. And so my offseason started, you know, 10 to 12 weeks earlier than everybody else's. And so I think that gives me kind of a leg up on the year. But definitely watching you guys go out there and play meaningful football is tough. But I was excited for Jake.

Great family. Great move by you. Great family. So you gave your suite up. Yeah. So that was a great week. We received Jake's girlfriend. I'm not using it, so why would I not give it to him? No, you did America a favor. That was one of those moments where we forget that we actually have a big podcast because we complimented Jake's lovely girlfriend, and then I was like,

I was like, I wonder if he's a fan. And then I saw he followed us. I was like, hey, man, great game. He was like, yeah, I'm a listener. Fuck you guys. No, we were very nice. Yeah, we were very polite. Appropriate. But that was nice of you to give him the sweet.

I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah, why not? So we talked about this before we sat down, but this is the day after Beer Olympics. Me and Big Cat are sweating out Coors Light right now. We're replenishing with body armor, which is great. Shut up, body armor. We're getting very hydrated. But every time we interview, it feels like we are at death's door. The first time we definitely were. Well, maybe not quite because I was still feeling pretty good from the night before. Yeah. But...

We weren't. Yes. You remember PFT's question that went nowhere? I was actually trying to remember that on the way over, and I was like, how awesome was it that this year you just beat every team and you just destroyed every team? But in the true spirit of that, I asked Hank to write a question for this interview. Because he's hurting. Hank is like 100 times worse than we are right now. And it took Hank an hour and a half. I had to remind him constantly like, hey, you got to get a question to me. It took him an hour and a half, and this is the question that he came up with.

And it's not even a question. It's just like Joe Burrow likes to sit crisscross applesauce. Yeah, it's comfortable. So that's Hank's question. That's Hank's comment. Yeah. So you like crisscross applesauce. Yeah, that's how I've always kind of sat. It's just my external hip rotation is probably –

Better than most. Okay. I don't even know what that means. Crisscross applesauce is comfortable for me. So like when we're sitting like this, does this mean that we have good external? Yeah. You're probably crisscross applesauce guy. I could be. I just sit like this because you don't look like a crisscross applesauce guy. I just want people to think I have big balls.

so I can't sit like this. But I can sit like this so you can, I just let everyone know. What do you think about that guy right there, Max? Yeah, that's how he sits. Chris Cross Applesauce. Yeah, he looks like a sumo wrestler. He's our little big baby. It's great. What I said at the start though was true. We can't tell the story apart in my take without Joe Burrow because that was, I would say, one of the funnest interviews we've ever done

And one of those moments that like we point to him as we go through our history and we're like, that was a big break. That was a big break. But getting to interview the Heisman Trophy winner national champion six hours after you won a title. Yeah. So I want to thank you. And also, would you do the same if you ever win a Super Bowl?

yeah sure why not nice work i got that i got that yeah i did love how how in that interview coach o was still in coach mode and he was like walking around the hotel lobby like screaming at players that they're gonna miss the bus yeah and they're like we don't care if we miss this coach o was not letting anybody miss the bus yeah do you still keep in touch oh hell yeah yeah he's down and he's living in miami right now doing his thing yeah but uh yeah we stay in touch he's great

Great friend. By the way, I did a bad job of asking that question. Will you come on? Pardon my take the morning after when you win a Superbowl.

Sure. Yes. Okay. I said if. Yeah, yeah. When you win a Super Bowl. Yeah, when you win a Super Bowl sounds better. I feel like maybe this year. We'll just pencil that in. Yeah, okay. We'll say that. You don't have to say that. We could stay an extra day. Oh, New Orleans. Joe's, he's, oh my God, it's perfect. It's perfect. I don't even know if that's the right word. What a storyline. Yeah. Yeah, so I was also trying to think because we need to figure out how to recover better as human beings from nights like last night and I

I remember reading something that you go to bed every night at 8 p.m. During the season. During the season. During the season. So in the offseason, you stay up later as a treat? Yeah. Wait, you don't watch Monday Night Football? I do watch Monday Night Football, but I'm in bed. Oh, so you go to bed, but you don't go to sleep. I don't watch the full game. I'll watch like the first half, but I sleep probably by 9.30. Yeah. Okay, yeah, because in the fall, that would make more sense. I was thinking that in the springtime, it's like it's fully light outside. You can't go to bed. I'm up. I'm up.

I've got some gaming nights that I have. Yeah. Off season, I'm enjoying life a little more. I'm always jealous of people who can go to bed early. It's like a superpower. I mean, I'm pretty dang tired during the season. Yeah. But still, it is a superpower because even if I'm tired, I'm like, I got to squeeze the last hour out of this day doing nothing. Yeah. And then it hurts me on the other side. It definitely hurts you in the morning. Football season is tough for us too. Yeah. But we can't go to bed early. Yeah. So it's probably harder on us than it is on you. Maybe. Way harder. Yeah.

What would you say to Ohio State fans that try to claim you? I didn't play football there. I mean, I practiced football there. You did a lot of practicing. I did a lot of practicing and lifting. You graduated. I graduated. I would say I usually tell people that I went to school at Ohio State and I played football at LSU. That's good. I like that. I got a lot better at it.

from practicing at Ohio State, but I didn't get to play, so I don't really say that I played there. I think that's a fair answer. I still have relationships there that, to this day, that I care about in that building, but I didn't play there. Yeah, LSU is your playing home. Yeah. Do you feel anything when Michigan plays Ohio State? Not as much as...

The LSU rivalries, I would say. Yeah. You never lost to Michigan, right? No, we were 3-0 when I was there. Yeah. Interesting. Very interesting. Never lost to Michigan. Maybe that's what Ohio State fans – you can't claim Joe Burrow, but you could say we never lost with Joe Burrow. That's true. Yeah. Is Jamar Chase open right now? He's always open. Always open. Yeah. Always open. Is there ever a moment where he's like, dude, I'm open, and you're like, I got it. I understand. Please stop telling me. I get it. No, I love when receivers come and tell me that they're open.

Because if they're open, that usually means they are, so I'm going to try to throw them the ball. Yeah. Yeah. But he is – so he's always open? I mean, yeah, for the most part. Yeah. If he's coming to the sideline and telling me something, I'm going to listen to that guy and I'm going to throw him the ball. Yeah. Because it usually works. Yeah. Yeah, that's how we work on this podcast. Big Cat's always open. I'm open. So I can kick it right now to Big Cat. And I can be like, yeah, hey, Joe, remember when you said that players should taunt? I agree with you.

Why can't... I don't really understand. Always open. I think if you're getting paid to play football, you can taunt. I'm all for not taunting in college and high school, but once you get paid to play, I think we should be able to taunt, and nobody's going to get their feelings hurt. Like, we're all big boys. We're going to be okay. Yeah. And...

If you're in the locker room and you hear the stuff we say to each other in there, it is a million times worse than, like, pointing at a guy and being like, ah, first down, you know? Yeah. That's the part I think a lot of the media misses is, like,

A locker room, when you go through the trials and tribulations of a football season, like it's, it's not a regular, you're not going to a nine to five work job. Yeah. And I always get upset with the anti-taunters where I'm like, you're asking these guys to put their bodies on the line, play a super physical game, an emotional game.

and none of these guys know how long their career is going to be, why can't they get the most out of it in every way? I agree. And you don't see all, like, the little interactions that you have with other players throughout the game that can kind of build tension. And so, like, people are talking shit the whole game that you don't see. And so when you make a play on that guy, just like if you're playing backyard basketball and somebody's talking shit to you, you're going to taunt that guy if you score on him. Yeah. Like –

I'm going to taunt somebody if he's talking shit, and then I go make a good play. And I'll give you a quick story. So when we won, we beat the Chiefs in 2021 in the AFC Championship. I posted a picture. Cartier Glass says, I won't even peek at you. Lil Baby, shout out Lil Baby. And then the next year, Chris Jones...

gets a sack to basically clinch the game and he runs up to me after and yells cardio glasses i won't even peek at you yeah and i was i just smiled and like backed him up i was like you got me that's awesome i love that shit right like why not or like if it didn't take it when angel reese did that to caitlin clark that you can't see yes that's great you use somebody's own taunt against them that's good yeah that's awesome yeah yeah that's what sports is all that's why that is what sports is all about right that's why going to texas sucks because everyone's just gonna horns down like that you just open yourself up i don't know why they get so offended they get

It only makes it worse. Yeah, it only makes it worse. And it makes us want to do it even more. Yeah, this bothers me. Okay, horns down again. They had the Big 12 write it specifically into their rulebook. Yeah, that's weird. You can't do horns down. That's weird. We were doing horns down when we played them. Yeah, and I feel like in the SEC, I...

have an idea that the SEC is not going to cater everything towards Texas football. Correct. Big 12 used to. Correct. I sure hope they don't ban horns down. Yeah. Now, when a receiver spins the ball after making a catch, now that's taunting. Well, they got to warm their hands. Arrest that guy. Throw him out of the game. That was the funniest when Roger Goodell was like, the spinning of the ball is now a 15-yard penalty. I said, dude, shut the fuck up. When was that? It was...

I feel like 10 years ago. Oh, a long time ago. Yeah. Remember when Randy Moss fake mooned the crowd? Disgusting. We give Joe Buck shit about that to this day. Is that Joe Buck? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He gets mad when we bring it up. Disgusting. Disgusting act. He admits that that was like his biggest misstep in the booth. He really regrets saying that. But it's very funny that his biggest regret is like making fun of a guy taking his pants off. Yeah. I think...

I might maybe if I get a rushing touchdown this year, I might bring back the fake moon. That would be awesome. It's got to be on the road though. That would be awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do it against Pittsburgh. Okay. Oh, do it against Pittsburgh. Speaking of Pittsburgh. Well, yeah. Hold on. I had one question about the taunting real quick. I heard you say once that you don't,

You won't start the shit talking, but if someone shit talks to you, you'll go back at them? Yeah, I don't usually start it. Have they bring games where there's just no one ever shit talk you? Yeah, definitely. Does that not... Do you find yourself missing a little edge? Yeah, it's not quite as fun without...

shit talk. I wish I shouldn't have done this because now people are going to just never shit talk you. You might have to change your policy. You might have to start shit talking first. The thing is, sometimes I don't know what to say first. I'm not great at coming up with

shit talk to say on the fly but if somebody says to me then I can I get my wheels turning a little bit yeah yeah I mean in at what point does the line cross between just like saying oh yeah after play and then shit talk yeah well if if I start it and then they don't say anything back to me I kind of just feel like dick yeah and because it's got to be a two-way street I can't just be out there like spouting nonsense to the world yeah I would say yeah I got a very important question for you do you have aura

I don't know what that means. That was a perfect answer to it. Joe Burrow's got the most aura. You have the aura. Okay. Yeah. Whatever you say. Yeah. You say, I got it, I got it. You're doing it more. Yeah, this is more aura. You're spitting out aura at us right now. Okay. Stop. That's too much aura. Yeah, no, I think Joe's one guy that you can say in the NFL, that's an aura guy. Definitive aura. You know it when you see it. Right. Jaden Daniels.

Aura. Yeah, I would agree. Yeah. You like Jane Daniels? I like Jane Daniels. I think he's going to be a good quarterback. Yeah, I think he's going to be really good. I like his motion. Oh, I like that. Did you see his elbow, though? There was a picture of his elbow. He had, I don't know if it was bursitis or whatever. It was like all funky looking. But I'm excited to have him because I always go back to a Miami Dolphins game

Washington football team two-point conversion back the year before you were drafted. Yeah. And if we had lost that game, we would have drafted Joe Burrow to the Washington Commanders. Yeah. And that's a big sliding. My life would have been so awesome. Your life maybe not so great. Just I know you don't like that field. I got hurt on that field, yeah. Yeah, and I don't like that field. That field has been the site of a lot of major injuries. Yes, Alex Smith.

What are your thoughts on that? The field needs to go. Yeah. I'm anti that. I remember the grass being great. So the grass is good, but sometimes they do this thing where they just spray kitty litter down on it, and then they spray paint the kitty litter green. Yeah, they do that in Pittsburgh. Oh, really? All right. Jerry, come on over. Sometimes the college team Pittsburgh plays on Saturday, and then we get there on Sunday, and we're like –

Where it's all this sand. Right. Yeah. I guess it's kitty litter. Yeah. I hope it's not. Low class field. Low class organization, Jerry. I said it. But if you're ever interested in coming to Washington, we would love to have you. All right, Jerry. So Jersey Jerry, diehard Steelers fan. He said he has two questions. He said the third question he couldn't ask. Yeah. I'm not going to ask the third one. Okay. I just don't think it'll fly. Okay. Let me read it. Do you have it? I think you should ask the third one. Oh, you deleted it. Okay. You can type it when you go back. You're whispering to me.

Whisper it to me real quick. No. You can't ask that question. Okay, ask me after. I'm protecting you. Yeah. Here we go. And thank you, PFT and Big Cat, for flying me out here for this. You were with us yesterday. We didn't fly you specifically. I went home yesterday. I know, but you were with us. And we flew him out. Yeah. All right, Joe, when you play the Steelers...

Can you feel TJ Watt's presence on the outside? And if so, what does it feel like? Yeah, I can definitely feel TJ is a unique player in this league. There's no other defensive lineman that I have to treat like a DB. Like I have to be conscious about where he's at because he's just going to jump up and catch it. Yeah. And there's nobody else that can do that. So would you say he's like,

Is he more of a threat than Miles Garrett, you would say? I'm not going to – I'm not going to – Fair, fair. He just goes around. Miles Garrett lives in the city. That's the different – Fair. You have to be alert for him in the pass game, which is –

very unique, I would say. Take the compliment. I love that Jerry's question was literally, what's it like feeling TJ Watt behind you? Yeah. Yes. Yes. Sure. My last question is, that's actually a good question, I think. Okay. Would you rather win the Super Bowl this year, you play like shit in it, but you never play football again, or go to the Super Bowl for the next five years, you lose every time in the Super Bowl, but you win five straight MVP awards? Ooh. Ooh.

Wait, he can't play football after he wins the Super Bowl? No, his career's done. I'm one and done? That's it. That's fucked up. But it's the next five years, and then I can continue to play after that? No, no, no, no, no. You're saying he's done playing football. Done playing football for good, but you go out and win the Super Bowl. Wait, it's not like nothing happened to him. But if I win five straight MVPs, and then I could go out the sixth year and win the Super Bowl. Yes.

That is tough. It's basically guaranteed Super Bowl have to retire 28 or 31. Nobody doesn't have to retire. Nobody's 30. I'm going to bet on myself in that sixth year and take the. I love that. I love that. Yeah. Thank you. That's a good answer. Oh, do you want to do you want to game with him? What games do you play? I don't play Call of Duty. Come on, Jerry. Too many. There's too many. Like, I'll hop on there. I'm a right shield guy.

Oh my god, those are the worst guys. So I can't shoot with anybody on that game because I'll hop on like once every couple weeks and everybody's already grinded like 38 straight hours. They know all the camping spots and they know all the head glitches. And so I get killed, like I get spawn killed and then I just get demoralized and I don't play. But I haven't been playing this one because...

I got to level 55 and then there's an unlock challenge to unlock the riot shield. Yes. And I can't do the unlock challenge to unlock the riot shield. So then I gave up. Oh.

But would you game with Jerry? Would you game? Yeah, I'd game with you. All right. Love that. All right. You'd game with him? Yeah, 100%. Okay, so I asked that specifically because before we got here, I said, are you going to ask Joe if he'd game with you? And Jerry said, I'll never game with a Bengal. No. And then the minute he's in front of your face, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll game with you. That tune changed very quickly. He was adamant, like, I'll never game with Joe, bro.

What other games do you play? Really, the only game I'm playing right now is my friends from home play pro clubs on FIFA. Okay. Star Wars Battlefront 2, I've been playing a little bit. That's kind of it. Yeah. Is that like what you do to unwind? Used to be. Not much anymore. Yeah. Are you getting more comfortable being famous? I am. I would say so. I think you are as well. It's very difficult sometimes, but I'm starting to just like...

not really give a shit anymore, which I think is good. Um, and it's just a very odd life. And so I'm starting to just starting to be a little more open because it came, it became exhausting to try to keep as many things private as I wanted to. Yeah. Uh,

So I'm getting better at it. Yeah. I mean, I can sense that you are. It's also, I always like appreciated that you kind of were open. You're like, yeah, being famous is weird because a lot of people are famous. Like this is the best thing ever. It's like, it can't be the best thing. So I wear sunglasses indoors because I'm a people watcher. Yep.

And now when I people watch, everybody's looking at me. So I make eye contact with everybody in the room. Yeah. And that is just the weirdest thing. Yeah. And like every time you look around, you get that like jump in your stomach of, yeah. Why are you looking at me? Yeah. Yeah. That's why I was in the corner. Yeah.

Yeah, we get that. We get the people. People watch us. Yeah, we have infinite more fame than us. Ours is more like, what's that freak doing? Yeah. Or he should not be here. The best way I ever described it is every bar we ever walk into is a gay bar just for us. That's it. Yeah.

Every dude turns around and every girl's like, who the fuck is that? I do empathize with women and understand what they must go through sometimes. I say the same thing. I sometimes feel like a hot chick when I go out because guys are just looking at me. Oh, Joe Burrow's here. Yeah, but in that equation, you're like a New York 10. We're like an Indianapolis 5. Sure. Whatever you say. And the girls in our situation are like, who are these losers? I would imagine the girls in your situation are like, Joe Burrow, will you marry me?

Yeah. A little different. It is weird, though, when you talk about fame, I don't think that the human brain was ever set up to have millions of other people have opinions about you. No. Right? So there's nothing in human history where millions of people could even know your name. And now you've got, like, enemies. You've got haters. You've got people that love you that have never met you. And it can be very, very overwhelming to be able to process that. And the fact that you've reached the point where you understand...

I don't have to give a shit about any of this. It's a big thing. Yeah. It's a cool step to make. Also, you're not that active on social media, I don't think. Yeah, I don't really enjoy that part of it. I'm starting to be a little more active, I would say, because...

I was pretty active back in the day. Like in high school, I would make some like funny tweets or some funny vines. Taking a picture in a Cleveland Cavs jersey. Yeah. Like something like that. It's a great picture. And so I'm starting to do a little more of that because I kind of enjoyed that, but I just stopped because like social media is weird when you're in my position. Yeah. Because no matter what you say, everyone's like, oh, that's like, don't be a group of people like, yeah, what the fuck? Yes. But I was...

I would also say I can tell or I can see why some people go crazy. Yeah. Especially like people that get famous when they're like 12 or like 13 or 14. Yes. And I empathize with that. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think that also your perspective is probably a lot based on your path because you,

You went to Ohio State and you weren't the starter and you got to live that. And then you, you know, obviously blew up at LSU, but you got to see both sides where if you had gone to Ohio State and was a Heisman Trophy winner your first year, you might have a different perspective. 100%. Yeah. I wouldn't be the person I am today. That's for sure. I got to live the backup quarterback lifestyle.

Back then, and that was fun. Got that out of my system, and then I was able to walk in. Yeah. Starting's a lot more fun. A lot more fun. I would love to be back up, though. I would love to be back up. It seems like it. I mean, it was pretty fun for a couple years. I'd like to be a third string. You don't have to be that prepared. Yeah, right. Because you're really... If you get to the third string, everyone's like, well, we're going to suck anyway. Yeah. I wouldn't say I was super happy, but I did...

Have fun. Yeah. I would say. Yes. Yeah. And so when you say that you've been getting more active on social media, I saw that you, you did your first dump. Yes. Your first photo dump. Yeah. Uh, which is a big, yeah, that'd be fun. I'm going to get more active on social media. Let people see my personality. Here's the shit that I took after eating. That would be a dude's rock moment. I'll just say you don't have to do it.

But if you do it, I'll support it. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. But doing the photo dump is very powerful. Yeah. We make the excuse where we say like, oh, I got to unload some memory on my phone. Yeah. Here are all the pictures where I look the best that I'm going to put online. Yes, exactly. That's exactly what it was. And that first picture, I was playing chess with a random guy on the street in France. And I had him on the ropes.

And then I blundered my queen away and he dismantled me after that. And there was an international chess master that was watching us right there. And every move that I make, he'd be no good. He didn't speak. And then I tried to like, the first time I tried to ask him, he's like, no English.

And so he was just chirping me in my ear. No good. No good. Every time. It was tough. And you couldn't shit talk him back. No, I couldn't do it. Didn't understand me. Is there anyone else who plays chess in the Bengals locker room? My friend Chido. He just went to Tennessee. Okay. He was always pretty good. We used to play. Oh, no. Is that like a storyline we need to grab onto? Like Joe Burrow lost his chess partner?

Yeah, I did lose my chess partner. That's bad. You've got to find a new chess partner. I do have to find a new chess partner. That would be a great way to have the Matthew Stafford Cooper Cup connection where they do breakfast every day. Somebody on the team that wants maybe more receptions should learn how to play chess. Every morning, me and Joe play chess. You develop this bond together. I'm with that. I like that. Yeah, that's a good way to do it. Do you have any heroes right now? Because I remember when you were in college –

One of your heroes was Dele, which I always appreciate about you, Matthew Delvedova. But as you're at this level, do you have guys that you look up to in other sports still? I mean, I respect people's skills and what they do. I wouldn't say I have heroes, though. I think my perspective on that has changed a little bit now that I've met a lot of those people that were my heroes and...

They're just people. And so I would say my perspective on that has changed over the last several years. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, can pop quiz. Can you name who this person is?

Zach Taylor okay yes he knows his football I do know my coach there's probably a lot of people who don't I sure hope not yes no I'm saying not not Bengals but uh oh I feel like he's got an unassuming look that yeah I would agree with that when when like the national like public football fans like I know that guy's a coach Zach Taylor he's great I feel like maybe that's a part of the reason he doesn't get the respect that he I agree I agree he needs a thing

Yeah. The thing that makes him stand out, like, I don't know, an earring. Or maybe like a top hat or like a suit on the sideline. He should swap names with his brother, Press. Yes. Because that would be a thing. Yeah. Like, oh shit, this guy's name's Press? Yeah. Like, I remember the first time I met Press, I was like, what do you mean your name's Press? Yeah. That's an interesting, it's interesting that his, their parents went,

Zach yeah and then press I think you're like I didn't like that name let's do this one let's go crazy they're warming up I think they didn't have the confidence after you get one you're up in then you're like okay yeah we can get a little bit crazier with a play calling in the second quarter press Taylor is a great dude but also crazy name I agree yeah uh what do you think the perfect football schedule is in terms of weeks and by weeks

How many games are we playing? You tell me. 18. 18? Gotta have two bye weeks. I like that. And I think it'd be cool to do... I've said this before in an interview. Like, six games. Or, like, normal bye week schedule that it is now. Like, have it spread out. But then, like, week...

13 do like the pro bowl break where you're doing like the seven on seven and all the skills challenges like the like the nba does because i think that would get more ratings yes for the pro bowl yes and then it would also give everybody that bye week going into like the last six games my big idea is uh especially now with the expanded college football playoff you do the week before christmas no nfl college football playoffs give everyone a break to go do their shopping

Yeah, I'm with that. Yeah, and then you get everyone reset. The whole league is on a level playing field for the whole stretch. Yeah, and then you have guys that are injured that would be able to potentially come back, and you want your best players out there as a league. You want them in the last...

six weeks of the season, you want your best players on the field. So I think that would be a smart idea. I think we fix football. And then you get the President's Day Monday after the Super Bowl off. That's what I was going to ask. When would that Super Bowl then fall? Because that would be a challenge, but that would be perfect. Perfect. I also think that would be just good for fans where you can just take a weekend to be a normal human being and not have to sit on your couch for 12 hours. Yeah, and we have to do maybe like an Amber Alert out to everyone being like,

uh just remember you don't have to say there's no football like i would just tell my wife i'd be like i'm gonna skip the games this week yeah no game because i love you yeah i like that yeah she'd figure it out in two seconds i love you so much more than football so no football today no i'm gonna i'm gonna give it up you'd have to like pretend to check your phone all the time to look at the scores oh no i'll put this away i'll put this away yeah exactly like prop it up in the corner and like just play like youtube videos yeah right right um we also have a big idea uh

In terms of outfits, so you started to do some cooler outfits going into the game. Do you bring a losing outfit? Yes. Okay, good. Because we've always had this problem where if you're going to wear something crazy to the game, love it, go for it. If you lose the game, you've got to get into sweats. Yeah, you can't show up to the press or in the outfit if you play like shit and you lose the game. Okay, I like this. Yeah, like Cam Newton, who we like, but he used to show up in the top hat after a loss. Yeah.

maybe don't do that i think it depends on what i walk in with um i wouldn't there's definitely some that i wouldn't wear to the post game losing presser i would show up in my depressed sweatpants yeah what's what's the craziest thing you have i mean you probably haven't planned any out but like what's the one that you've done that you're like that was i went out of my comfort zone i wore a this wasn't into the tunnel but it was on the plane when we were playing vegas in 21 i wore like a

that had all these colors and crisscross lines on them with a Dunder Mifflin blue beanie and red. And pulled it off. I did pull it off. Yeah, you did. Here's a crazy one you could do, and this is like crazy fashion because I obviously wore the backless suit. What if one week you just wore a T-shirt that just had me and PFT's face on it? With no back? No back. I'm with that.

that could actually be that could be the losing shirt of shame backless t-shirts yeah oh with your guys face that would be an all-time clip if you have to answer a bunch of like hard questions after a heartbreaking loss then you stand up and walk out

Oh, what if you did backless pants? Now we're talking. So that's assless chaps? Yeah, assless chaps. Yeah, you think you'd get maybe a fine from the NFL for that? Yeah. I would hope so. Yeah, that'd be worth it. It's like remember when LeBron stood up from that press conference and he was in those shorts? No, I don't remember that. The suit shorts? He had a suit on, but it was like suit shorts, and everyone was like, whoa, that was what you were wearing, dude? Interesting. Yeah, leg reveal for LeBron. Does Evan McPherson have your number yet? Evan McPherson has my number.

He didn't before Super Bowl. He definitely had my number. I texted him on draft night. Okay. He said that he didn't. I mean, it had to be a lie. We gave him the business about that, and he seemed like he was very insecure. I'm sure he was lying. So how quickly after a guy gets drafted do you reach out? I try to reach out within a day. Is it undrafted guys too? Used to. Okay. Okay. So you got to be like, what about a seventh round? Are we reaching out? Yeah, I try to. Okay. Okay. Undrafted guys get a burner.

burner cell phone i just got my second phone so i'm just now getting into the burner oh nice yeah that was smart yeah the undrafted guys yeah they have to they have to kind of stick around for a week or two before you can yeah as i'm getting older you know guys are coming in and out so much um it's definitely harder to remember everybody's names as you're getting older i would say yeah is the window open

What does that mean? You know what that means. You're that badass quote. Man, it's always open. There it is. You're like, yeah, the window's open if I'm here. Yeah. I was like, that is awesome. If you don't feel like that, then why are you playing football? Right. Yeah. Right. That's also one of those honest answers that then people are like, oh, he's so cocky. He's like, no, he's honestly showing you his confidence. I mean, what do you want me to say? Like, oh, we got two years left and after that, we're going to suck. And the cap's going to get tough. What do you want me to say? Yeah.

We're going to have to make some hard decisions. You should say that and be like, ah, secondary's getting older. We're going to have to move some money around. Yeah. It would be funny if when you gave an undrafted guy your burner cell phone number, and then instead of doing like at college where they do the scholarship reveals, you just reveal to him –

Your actual number when he makes the roster. Congratulations. He's freaking out. On the last cut day, like go up and write it on the board. Like, there you go, everybody. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, there's the number. Oh, congrats on beating the Browns, by the way. That was in 2022. We haven't seen you. Yeah. And it was the only time you beat them. That was the only time I beat them, yeah. What is it about the Browns?

They're good, man. They got good players. But they're not that good. And then they just got to have your number. They got our number, yeah. I mean, Miles Garrett plays a big part of that. Yeah. Their DBs are really good. They got Denzel, Greg Newsome.

Emerson over there, then their safeties are really good. They got really talented players. I'm happy you beat them, though, because that's the one thing, and this is a fan's perspective. I know you don't give a shit, but you never want to have a quirky, weird stat follow you around for a while. We needed to get that one. I'm hoping we get two more this year. Right. It's like Peyton Manning won two Super Bowls, never beat Florida.

Really? Yeah. You could say that any time. Just be like, never beat Florida. Did he start four years? Yeah. Never beat Florida. Alex Smith went like a year and a half without throwing a touchdown pass to a wide receiver. I do remember that. That was fun. You got to get rid of those. So you did that. You got rid of the quirky stat. Because people are going to use those against you. Right. For sure. They just throw it out there. Never beat the Browns. Which team do you like beating the most? I mean, any division team. Yeah. Any division team. Yeah. Steelers. Beating the Chiefs is fun. Yeah. Burrowhead. Yeah.

Yeah. Do you like that nickname? I mean, I'm going to ride or die with my guys. So if they're saying it, like I'm going to go with it. Yeah. But I would not say I would say that. Yeah. But you would nod if I said Burrowhead. No, you're not on my team. Burrowhead. We can't say Burrowhead.

We can't say Burrowhead. It's low-key facts. We're not allowed to say Burrowhead. Okay. I think it's Burrowhead. I'd even – this just popped in my head, and we've had, you know, Josh Allen. We actually had Joe Buck on after this. But how long did it take after the DeMar Hamlin thing for you to, like,

for everyone to be like okay we're good we can play football again because that's definitely weird yeah i mean it got late in that week and i was like guys we were playing football right still right because like you don't think about you obviously the story is the bills and demar and it kind of gets lost that you're also on that field yeah and in dealing with similar things yeah it was definitely a challenge i would say but fortunately he was all good and

He's doing his thing now and I'm seeing him at all these events and always happy to see him because he's a great guy. But that was a scary moment for sure. - Yeah. - And it was like you and Josh that really let everybody know, let's not play football, right?

What did Josh say? Yes. Josh said it was you and him. I wouldn't – I think it was more so our coaches that kind of made that decision. But once we left the field, I think it was a collaborative. Both teams were like, what are we doing? We're not going back out there. Common sense prevailed, thankfully. Yes. All right.

All right, so I got a couple last questions. It's been awesome. It's great catching up with you. How's your brother doing? My brother's doing great. He's a big-time PMT fan. Big time. Yeah. He's actually... He's the one that put me onto you guys back in the day. He would be...

He would come to Baton Rouge and we would like drive to New Orleans or wherever we were driving. He'd throw you guys on whenever we were driving. Dan, right? Dan. Yeah. That guy. Dan Burrows, the man. Yes. He's the connector of all this. We have to thank Dan. Yeah. Yeah. He's listening to this right now. Dan, thank you. Can't tell the story. Open your eyes. You're driving. Stop.

He just got lost there for a second. Joe, I got a product idea that maybe I know that you're getting into brands recently. Okay. Is this going to be one of your good business ideas or one of your bad business ideas? I don't like the tone you just used there. They're all my best one yet. Nick.

Name one bad business idea I've ever had. I mean, the last time I was on, I think we had a pretty bad one. What was that? You told me to go to XFL. Oh, no, no. Or the UFL or whatever. Yeah, no, that was a private conversation Joe and I had. I was working the phones before the XFL back in 2020.

And I was like, I think I can get you like 50 mil guaranteed. You should do that. That was my worst business idea. Let me come to the support of my co-host here. The fact that you remember that means it probably wasn't that bad because it left a mark.

Or the really bad ones do leave a mark. No. Anyone that sticks around, you're like, damn. Maybe there was some truth in that. Yeah, that league lasted several weeks. Yeah. You'd be as rich as you are today. I was going to tie it into body armor. Okay. So I've been trying to invent this product for like 10 years called Brotein.

And it's a recovery drink, and it's got protein in it, but it also has alcohol in it. So you drink it after the gym as you're pre-gaming to go out. So the good and the bad even out. It's a neutral drink.

No, it's just too good. You think alcohol is bad. Alcohol is good. Oh. They're both good things. How do you guys feel today? Bad. Excellent. Terrible. I retired. I retired yesterday. So on the way over here, I was thinking about protein and I was like, you know what? I do feel terrible right now. So what if we eliminated the alcohol? It would be a good hangover remedy. Yes. Because a little hair of the dog with some

That's true. Yeah, if you do that in the morning afterwards, I think it'd be good. But then I was like, what if nobody makes sleep protein? Nobody's weaponized sleep yet. If we market aggressive sleep,

And you drink a protein drink that also has maybe alcohol, but maybe like melatonin in it knocks you out overnight. Your body recovers. I like this. Right now, everyone's wasting their sleep. They're not getting better when they're sleeping. Casein protein. That's what you drink before bed. What is it? Casein. It's the slow absorbing stuff, right? So yeah, you put that in there with whatever's in NyQuil and maybe some booze. Yes. You fall asleep and you wake up stronger.

Every day. You're pitching me like I'm... Well, you got some money. I do have some money. Yeah. And you got body armor on your shirt. Yeah. You're an entrepreneur. I am not. I don't think I have any business. No, you got money. You don't have to be an entrepreneur. You just have to say you're an entrepreneur. Oh, really? Yeah, Bill Belichick's girlfriend. She's an entrepreneur. Philosopher. Yeah. You could just say you're an entrepreneur. Like, I'm an entrepreneur. Okay. CEO of life. Yeah. So what do you think? You taking it?

I mean, probably not. I would have to see like a little business plan. We'll let Body Armor sort that out. You hear the word probably there? Yeah. That wasn't a no. It's not a no. That was a probably. I think it's got legs, but if not, you can always join the XFL again. Okay. They're back. Probably not.

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in the office, and everywhere. I've seen you at UFC fights. Tell me your top two fighters right now. I love that you're a UFC fan. Alex Pereira, he's fighting this weekend. We're going to air this after, so give us a prediction. Very fun to watch. I think he's going to win. Okay. This will suck if he loses. Are you going? No, I'm not going. My friendship was my traveling for the...

And now I'm good. I'm locked in. Okay. And then, uh, sugar. Okay. Sean O'Malley. He's electric. He's fun. Yeah. He's electric. We've, uh, hung out a couple of times. He's a good guy. Oh, nice. Yeah. Have you ever been in the tunnel of chaos? What does that mean? Uh,

Should we tell them about the Tunnel of Chaos? I don't know if we can talk about it. It's a place in Las Vegas that you go, and then you tell them how much money you want to win, and then you win that amount of money. Oh, that sounds like a great time. It's great. And the real reason is you're just gambling with Dana White's money. Oh, okay. Well, then, Dana, bring me to the Tunnel of Chaos, please. Yes, yes. I mean, he literally sits there, and he's like,

I've heard stories of his legendary gambling. Yeah. He just gives you money. He's like, okay, now that you lost all your money, here, just double it next time. And most places are like, you got to go if you keep doing that at Blackjack. But since Dana, I think, runs that casino, he's like, here, double it again. Yeah, Dana probably owns Vegas at this point. Yeah, he's doing okay. Yeah, he's doing okay. Are you going to be the last questions? No, I think my last question was the business opportunity that he is probably going to accept.

Yeah. Oh, wait, Jerry, come back for one last question. I want you to... Not the third question, Jerry. Not the third question. Not the third question. But I know, because Jerry's all he's been thinking about. He just walked right in front of the camera. You can ask him what you think about, what he thinks about your guy. Go ahead. Yeah. Honest opinion. You're a quarterback. Rossi, does he still have some left in the tank? Yeah. Yeah, I think so. There you go. You sure? Yeah.

Because I say it to everybody. He's a division rival. I know, but I say it to everybody, and they call me crazy. Like, Jerry, you're crazy. It's over. Rusty's, you know. Stop calling him Rusty. Why call him Rusty? Rusty's not going to be good anymore. Time will tell. I think he's going to be really good. Oh, no shit. But, like, you guys make me feel like, oh, Jerry, like, you're crazy.

That's the great thing about football is you find, you're going to find out in September who has it. Yeah. True. Yeah. Prediction. No prediction. Can you give me a prediction? I think he'll be good. Oh no, this is a separate question. No,

You can put your team first. If you were to predict right now the AFC North, you can pick Bengals first. How do you think the other three fall? Bengals first, and then I don't care. Yeah. That's the answer. It's a good answer. Right now, Jerry knows you're a winner, and he's upset about that. I'm a little upset, yeah. The aura is getting to you. There's too much aura. Can I be honest? Yeah. I'll be honest. I'm going to be honest. I never liked you. But...

But I'm sitting in the chair and I'm like, fuck, he's cool. Yeah, that's the worst. I know. He's the best. So now I got to, if the Steelers aren't in it, I'll root for you. Okay. I appreciate that. But if the Steelers aren't in it, I can't. Okay. That's all good. But you're cool. My man. He loves all the Joe B's out there. Yeah. All right, Joe. Thank you as always. You're the best. And best of luck this year. Yeah, thanks. Okay, let's do the Mount Rushmore of...

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Me. First pick. I believe Big Cat does. Okay. Right? Do I not? How many have we done? Three. Four. Three.

We can look this up. Yeah, look that up. Let's get it right. Let's look this up. While Max is looking that up, quick Charlotte the Stingray update. She died. Oh, yeah. Allegedly. I don't think she's dead. I think the aquarium, they just got too much shit. They got caught in their lie by certain podcasters. And they killed her? After they said that she's not really pregnant, then they had to pretend like she died. Okay, so I was second last week.

The last one we did, I was second, so I'm first, right? Yes. Okay. Yep. And it goes clockwise. Yep. So I'm last. Snake's back around. Okay. I will go. Meat. Steak. That's a good pick. 1-1. I love steak so much. Did you guys have any steak this past week? I did. A lot of steak. I had a lot of steak. Today at NASCAR. Yeah. You had daytime steak? It's the fun. Daytime steak. Steak is just always there for you. Yeah. It's like, and it's, we'll get into more meat. There's a lot of great meats. Mm-hmm.

But steak is that meat that I don't know if you guys feel the same way. You say like, oh, I'm eating a big steak tonight. Yeah. Like that's a that's a get ready plan steak dinner meal.

Let's do a steak dinner in Tahoe. Yeah, let's do one. Let's fucking do one. The boys. So you get all steaks with that. I think so. You get the ribeye, filet mignon, two bones. We were saying that we could do a Mount Rushmore of just steaks another time. We could, yeah. But yeah, we were saying like hamburger does not count, obviously. As steak. Correct. Yeah, you're not taking beef. You're not taking cow. You're taking steak. Steak. Flank steak. Steak. Skirt steak. Skirt steak. Oh, yeah. Skirt steak. A little marinade. Hank.

What about steak tips? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Steak tips. Hank, you seem shocked that I would take steak. No, I'm not shocked. I thought I had the first pick, and that was an obvious 1-1. So you were going to go steak? Yeah. And I'm not doing great this year. You're fine. Oh, you're not? A little in my head. I'm going to go chicken wings. That's a good pick. Fuck. Good pick. I had them 1-1. Don't overthink it. Yeah, don't overthink it. Okay. Good pick. That's like you eat.

I think probably chicken wings more than steak. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's not. Yeah. But that's. No, I know. Everyone probably eats chicken more than steak. Chicken wings is my favorite. It's actually healthier. It is. You shouldn't eat too much steak. It is the best food. I would take it one, one in a food draft. Or actually, you should probably eat more steak because it's low carbs. Max? Yeah. Burgers. Ah, good pick. Good pick. Good pick, Max. All right. Also had some burgers this weekend. I'm going to go.

Bacon. Bacon. I feel like that's a good fourth pick, and then I'm going to follow it up with hot dogs. Hot dogs. You don't like hot dogs? I like hot dogs. As a meat, though, the quality of meat in a hot dog is not good, PFT. In Chicago, it is. I love hot dogs, so I have no problem with this. I was hoping I was going to get burgers and hot dogs. That would have looked good on a graphic. Hank, does it taste good?

Yeah. It's good meat then. I don't care if it's lips, asshole, whatever they put into it. I don't want to know. It tastes good. And I used to be like a hot dog, not a hater, but I used to kind of put hot dogs to the side. But then you have a good hot dog and you're like, holy shit, this is actually good meat.

Trust tree. I grilled a lot this week for my family. And every single time I grilled, the grill was like kind of where we were on vacation. The grill was kind of like out of view of the kitchen area. Every single time I grilled, I just ate an entire hot dog or sausage while grilling and then came back and I was like, dinner's ready. Oh, I'm hungry. Hot dogs are great. Just sitting there eating it and just not letting it, you know, just way to go. Shouldn't have created the Mount Rushmore meats be something you don't need condiments for.

I don't need a condiment for... I need some sport peppers. Wait, Hank, you don't need any sauce in your chicken wings? No. We had dry wings tonight. Dry wings. No seasoning. Those have a little seasoning, I believe, on them. Yeah. I don't think it's just... Yeah, Hank, you walked into that one. Yeah, but you don't eat hot dogs without a bun. What? I guess hamburgers, too. All right. It's a bad point by Hank. For the record... No, I think it's a good point. I think a real meat-itician would say that the best meats you don't need...

Anything else for The best steak you've ever had I don't think you're a real meat rider Because I think that Now it's getting personal I love hot dogs I eat them raw but most people don't Can we put them as glizzies? Raw dogs Two buns Two buns? What? I'll take fried chicken That's a good pick Max I also had that on there

Okay. Strong start by Max. Hank. I am going to go with... Come on, Hank. Better be a good one. All right. Should I go with option one or two? Two. One. I don't know. Just pick. Ribs. Fuck! It's a good pick.

Hank let me ask you do you put any condiments on your ribs? What was the other one? No sauce Don't worry about it So I agree Hank that like ribs should go over hot dogs Yes I love hot dogs ribs should have gone over hot dogs I had ribs higher on my list I just went with hot dogs Ah fucking A man Damn it Ribs is good Great pick That was gonna be my pick I thought for some reason I was gonna get all the way back Ribs would have been okay I'll go with my pick

Come on. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that. I didn't do that to you. I didn't do that to you, my friend. I will go with duck. That's a good pick. Duck's a great meat. No, explain your face.

As a bougie pick. No. What? Yeah, duck is a bougie meat. Duck's not a bougie pick. It's Mount Rushmore of meats. Listen, in all honesty, duck. The best meats you get are at bougie places. That's true. Duck is fantastic. Yeah. Duck is in my top three foods.

No, yeah. All right, fine. I'll go back. Listen. No, no, no. No, no, no. I have duck. I'm saying this is the beauty of me as a person, not Max little fucking hamburgers and chicken tenders over there. I went duck. And then the next pick, I'm going to go with his sausage because sausage is fun. That was mine. That was mine. Yeah. So I can do it all, bitch. How you like them apples? How you like them sauce? Apple sausage. Sausage or hot dog for the rest of your life?

Oh, man. Sausage, easy. There's so many different options for sausage. Yeah, because sausage, pizza. You can get breakfast sausage. You get dry sausage. Italian sausage with pasta. It's sausage without sausage. Italian sausage, peppers and onions. I'd say hot dogs too. I don't know. Rest of your life. It's not even close. Think of all the cookouts that you would have to go to and not eat anything. But think of all the time. What are you talking about? You just bring your own sausage. Yeah. Like.

I'd go hot dogs. It's sausage. Sausages are so good, man. They're so good. Okay. I'm going to go. I can't believe you took ribs. What was your other one? Tell us your other one. Brisket. Okay. Good pick. Good pick. I'm happy I got it back. Yeah, I probably like brisket more than ribs. I just knew I wasn't going to get ribs. But brisket is my favorite barbecue food. Absolutely delicious. No seasoning, no sauce. If I knew how to make one, I would do it all the time. Smoking meats? Yes.

We're smoking a bunch of meats. Okay. This is going to be a good, this is a good Mount Rushmore. I'll go pull pork. Yep. I had it on there. Had it on there. Good pick. You were going to go sausage. I fucking love sausage. Oh yeah. I mean, I just started giving you all of my arguments for why sausages. Yeah. I mean, it's the best. It's such a versatile meat. I ate so many hot Italian sausages. You can have it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It can be the main of every meal. That's a great point. Great point about my pick.

I love your pick. All right. My next pick, I'm going to go dino nuggies. I'm going to go with lobster. Damn. Lobster. It's fish meat. Max, what do they call it? Claw meat? Tail meat? I don't know. Good Friday, you can eat lobster. You can't eat meat. Okay. Well, we're not doing it. It's a meat. I think it is. Okay. We're not going to ask. I thought for

For some reason, I should have given you guys more credit that you weren't going to go there. No, I had it on the list. I had it on the list. Absolutely. Max is just too... His fucking caveman brain thinks duck and lobster are on the list. No, I just don't think fish is... I think fish is a different category than meat. Should we ask the Pope if he approves of my list? Is a lobster a fish? No.

It's seafood. It's not a fish. It's a crustacean. Fish is also meat. Yes, there is also meat. I disagree. What are you talking about? I would take meat. I grew up saying that meat is different than fish. Like, you could eat meat. Well, you grew up in a dumb household. You could eat seafood on Good Friday, Fridays and Lent. Your dad also eats. That's not turtle soup. Good Friday isn't a meat draft. Good Friday, you can't eat meat. Memes, back me up.

Were you allowed to eat fish on Fridays and Lent? Yeah, fish on Fridays. Yeah, fish fries. Because you can't eat meat. I understand. You can eat lobster. Yes, you can eat lobster on Fridays and Lent because you can't eat meat. But if you're a vegetarian, you don't. Well, no. But there's pescatarians that say they don't eat meat, but I eat fish. But if you say you're a vegetarian, I don't eat meat. That person is not going to eat.

But the pescatarian would say, I don't... That's different. But they would say, I don't eat meat. I eat fish. Yeah, those people suck. Yes, lobster meat is considered meat because it is a crustacean and a type of seafood. I actually might hate the pescatarians more than I do vegetarians because at least stand on something. Like, if you're not going to eat steak and sausage and ribs and all these things, don't then also eat, like, lobster.

Stand on something. Just be no meat. We haven't had a contentious Rushmore yet. This is good. And there's a lot on the board still. It's usually you're scraping at the bottom of the barrel. This is... Like a lobster. Okay, you have another pick? Yeah, my last pick, titties. What? Titties as meat. Great choice. Thanks, Max. I think titties are meat. When was the last time you ate titties? You suck on them. Yeah, but that's not eating them. I think titties counts as meat. So are you saying that you're...

A cannibal? No, just saying titties. Okay. You can look at them. I don't know. I mean, that's okay. We do have a lot of meats left. I think titties. There's so many meats left. I'm like really struggling for what to go with here. Well, we have to deal with PFT just saying titties. I mean, that just took him out of drafts. No, I would actually say. No, he's a pander. That's a pander pick. No, I love titties. That's a pander pick. If you put titties on any graphic, that wins. You like blizzies and titties. That's not a meat.

Which one do you like more, Glizzy's or Titty's? I think this makes his list significantly worse. But is Titty's a meat? No. I think that... You could take chicken breast. Titty's is meat. In what way? We're talking about meat that you eat. Is it the Mount Rushmore meat that you eat? Oh, my God. Fact or fiction? I don't think I've ever heard... Why did you do, like, swim meat? Yeah, when have Titty's ever been referred to as meat? Good question.

Like a cock has been referred to as a meat. Yep. I've never heard someone say, look at that. Those meat. Look at those meaty titties. No, I don't want to look at those. I say that all the time. Maybe like a pepperoni gets thrown somewhere there. But okay. All right. Listen, if you guys know it, if you guys don't want titties on that list, because I think it's just not a meat. It's not a meat. That's the only problem.

Explain how titties is a meat and we can make a slide. Make us a pitch on the spirit of this draft, titties being a meat. They're made out of meat. Made out of milk. And fat. No, they're not made out of milk. So you're a cannibal. No, I've never eaten them. But, okay. Then how would it get on your Mount Rushmore? Because I enjoy looking at the meat.

Okay. I'll take it off the list. I'll take it off the list. If this is going to be a big thing. No, it's not. You keep it on. I want you to keep it on. It sounds like it's a big thing. I think it makes your list worse. It's not. It just doesn't make any sense with what we're doing. That's why I want them to keep it on. I feel like putting titties on any list is going to make it pop off. Yeah. But I think then when you see them stacked up against each other of really good food, it's going to be like, oh, why did he just say titties? It's a curious pity. Yeah.

Okay, I'll take it off. What do you think, Memes? You be the judge. I was so confused when he said it. I'll take it off the list. No, you can keep it on. I want him to keep it on. No, no, I'm taking off the list. Is he keeping it on? It's been under protest. Super, how many people do we have? I vote him. I want him to keep it on. I think it makes his list worse. I vote no. I vote yes. Memes? I don't think it should count. Okay. Because I just don't get it.

Okay. Yeah. All right. Go with something else then. Memes will be the arbiter of these. Memes, you're the judge now going forward because you're the only one who's not done that picks here. So Commissioner Memes has to be the guy now. Okay. Right? Should we all enact him? Yep. Commissioner Memes. Commissioner Memes, yes. Now, can you admit that you were trying to get cute with it? I'm getting cute with it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was never arguing that I wasn't getting cute. So I guess instead...

I will do smoked turkey leg. Okay. That's a good pick. Turkey leg. I had it on there. Walk and snack. I had it on my list. That's a good pick. That's a good pick. Me? Yeah. I'm going to go meatballs. Ooh. Okay. I didn't even think about meatballs. You like the big ones or the little ones? I just like a nice homemade meatball. Think about the meatballs. If you go to an Italian restaurant, you got a couple meatballs for the table to start the meal. Really judge how an Italian place is. Mm-hmm.

I had others that I thought of, but meatballs is the true answer to myself, and I went true to myself instead of pandering to the public. No, I mean the public loves meatballs. Yeah, the public loves meatballs. Everyone loves everything on this list. It's meat. It's going to be a close list. It's going to be a close list, and I think my only concern is I would probably put a fish here, but I also think there's going to be a lot of people who, when they see the list, are going to be like, fish shouldn't count as a meat.

I disagree with those people. I disagree with those people, too. Like lobster was a very good pick. I agree. I agree, but I don't want to then add a different fish to it. I'm just going to go, like Max, with my gut, salami. Good pick. I could eat a whole multiple rolls in a day. I got a question about a technicality. Ass? No. I also had ass on my list.

I thought about a technicality pick as well, but I just went away with it. What was your technicality one? I thought about saying prime rib, but I thought it was too close to steak. That is steak, yeah. Yeah. Okay, here's my technicality question. Chicken parm?

It's fried chicken. Is it? Okay. It is, but it isn't. But it isn't. I mean, it's steak. That's why I asked. That's why I asked. It's a specific type of meal, but the main ingredient is fried chicken breast. That's why I asked. Okay. Shit. Now Mac's in my head about being bougie.

He's in my head about being bougie. Go bougie. It's Max. I do have sausage on there. And I can't believe this one lasted. Lamb. Fine. Lamb is good. I like lamb. Lamb's good. Lamb is good. It's a good occasional. I should have gone pepperoni. There's so many good ones still out there. Would gyro meat have counted? I mean, turkey. I was going to do turkey, but then PFT kind of just did a specific turkey, so I didn't think that would count.

Prosciutto Ham Ham Ham Prosciutto Pepperoni I almost went full Italian There was a part of me that wanted to do chicken cutlets, meatball, prosciutto, salami Crab Crab's good Blue crab is awesome Tuna Mussels Not tuna fish, but the actual tuna Shrimp Like tuna steak Oyster Shrimp is good Oh, shrimp is a great one Would oysters have counted as meat? I mean, if we're adding seafood, it's all seafood on the table

Yeah. Soprasetta. Scala. Yeah. Gabagool. Gabagool. Matadela. Gabagool was on my Italian list. Bison. But then it started to get competitive at first, so I was like, all right, I should play the game. Pastrami. Pastrami's good. Corned beef. There's a lot of good meats out there. There's a lot of good meat. Pork roll. You mean Taylor Ham? I was going to go turkey before you said turkey leg. So turkey. I was just going to do turkey in general. Very, very thin, though. Yeah. Real thin. Very, very thin. Meatloaf. Meatloaf.

A good meatloaf is good. Yeah. Yeah. Good anything is good. True. Also true. Most meatloaf is bad. I would say most. I would take almost everything on our list over meatloaf. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. If you're like, hey, what do you want for dinner? All 12 of our... 12? Yeah. I mean, it was a great list. 16 of our picks would go before meatloaf. Chicken tenders, kind of fried chicken. Yeah. Cutlet, fried chicken. Yeah. Yeah.

Chicken nuggets. Would Wagyu have counted? Yeah, regular chicken didn't go, huh? Just chicken. Yeah, chicken breast, yeah. Or like grilled chicken. Well, and chicken wings. Yeah, wings did go. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Chicken breast can be dry, though. Would Wagyu have counted? I should have. No, because that's steak. That's steak, yeah. That really fucked you up. Yeah. You thought you had one-one.

But you came back with ribs. Ribs. I thought I was getting lobster at the end. I slept on ribs. I should not have done. I should not have done hot dogs. Hot dogs is how you got titties. Great third. Yeah, but I think hot dogs led to titties.

I think if I got hot dogs, it would have played because it would have gone burgers, then dogs on the list. So the combo of the two would have been like, oh, that's a strong start. Yeah. Okay, good list. Good job, boys. We got anything else? Let's go to chill week. So we'll be in Tahoe. We'll be live from Tahoe on Wednesday and Friday. Got some big interviews planned. You guys have clean laundry?

No, because I just got back. So I've got a suitcase that I was planning on just putting directly into the washroom. I do that every time. I actually don't ever not have a suitcase that's full of clothes. It's either full of dirty clothes that has just been sitting waiting to go in the laundry the day before I travel or they're clean clothes because I'm going to travel. Yeah. I just looked at my suitcase and I thought if it was good enough for Greece, it's good enough for Tahoe. Yeah. So I'll just run it back. Yeah. It's going to look at the weather. It's going to be hot. It's going to be hot out there.

But, yeah, I'm excited for Tahoe. Shane's here. Shout out, Shane. Yo, Shane. Shane, how was your week? Hello. What? How was your week? It was great. How was yours? It was great. Did you do anything fun? Went home, visited the family. Yeah. You go out? Yeah. Went on the boat. What'd you wear when you went out? Had a great first of July. What'd you wear when you went out? On the boat? No. Like, did you go out after? No.

Yeah, we're... Saw Shane do a double gainer off the boat. Oh, fuck yes. First time on a boat, right? Yes.

What did you wear, Shane? I wore some nice khaki-colored pants and a new vintage Chargers shirt. Oh, nice. Like Carball. Just got off Depop. It was a sick shirt. It was a sick shirt, but it's just very funny because I made up the lie like two months ago that Shane only, when he goes out, he just puts on his best Chargers shirt.

And then Max sent me a picture from July 4th. Shane just risen it up with his best Chargers shirt on. Well, to be fair, I didn't have a Chargers shirt before I got this Chargers shirt. So it is my only Chargers shirt. What does that mean? You wear Chargers gear every day. I only have sweatshirts. That's a shirt. I have no Chargers shirts. I have sweatshirts and I have jerseys. Got it. Those are both shirts. Now you got your shirt. This is my only shirt. I'd like to see that Chargers shirt in Tahoe. I will wear it in Tahoe. It would also be cool if the Chargers sent me more shirts. Oh. Oh.

Are you listening, Chargers? He's a double XL. How about this, Shane? I'll fund your Chargers. First thing Shane's ever said on the show is let me get some Chargers merch. Shane, I'll give you a full shopping spree in Chargers merch if you promise, and you have to give this promise, that every first date you go on for the next year is Chargers.

What does that mean? Like a Chargers game or no? What are you talking about? You said every first date has to be charged. That's what you wear. Yeah, that's what you wear to a first date. Yeah. So like even if you go like, oh, we're going to a classy spot. Chargers polo.

I don't know. All right. Just the offers out there. I just want to be clear. I didn't ask for it. I just said it would be cool. Yeah, but I'm telling you that if the Chargers don't come through, I will come through with that one stipulation that you go Chargers on every first date. Can I think about it? Yeah, absolutely. You have as much time as you want. Perfect. Hey, Shane, I got a question for you. What's your decision, by the way?

I need some more time. Oh, shit. You know. Okay. Shane, I have a question. Yes, sir. Are titties meat? Would you consider titties meat? As just like, are we talking about consumption or just? No, just meat. Yeah. Yes. I think it's more fatty tissue, but I guess by the technical. I like that. I like that. I guess technically. Have you ever eaten a titty? I don't think so. Okay. So you're not a cannibal. That's pretty good.

Correct. Yeah. I want your charger. Like, dude, we can get some sick chargers. That's what I'm saying. Like, we'll find... I might even buy you a suit. Let's just chargers. Get the Donnie Does Susie. You can get a suit jersey. I want you in chargers stuff all the time. Every day. I'd be happy to wear it. Okay, so you made your decision. You snuck that in at the end. I don't know yet. Okay. Give me a day. Okay, fine. But...

I want my answer within the next five minutes. Okay, let's do numbers. Numbers. 20. 8. 56. 3. 19. 21. 67. Love you guys. I'm coming for your love of three. So yeah, you're not gonna let me.

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