Khalil Mack, Head Strength Coach Ben Herbert, Mt Rushmore Of Movie Quotes + Same Faces New Places In The NFL
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On today's part of my take we have a twofer for the people two great interviews we have Khalil Mack from the Los Angeles Chargers and then we have Ben Herbert the strength and conditioning coach for the Chargers who is probably one of the most intense guests we've ever had on I I'm in love with him because he makes me want to be a better person he made us hard he made us hard he's the famous we played the clip when he was introduced and

His goal is to make the Chargers harder to break. So awesome interview with both of them. We're going to do new faces, new places. Same faces, new places. I always mix that up. Guys who are on different teams this year in the NFL. We're resetting for the start of the season. Yes, we're going to get ourselves set for that.

We're going to talk a little trades and injuries. Unfortunately, we are going to do fire fest and we have the Mount Rushmore of movie quotes. Great football teams are built by having the right capability in the right positions. It's the same with great trucks like Chevy Silverado. You start off under the hood with four powerful engine choices that deliver massive towing capacity.

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Jordan Addison may be out for a while. It's tough. It's really tough. I'm upset for the Vikings fans out there. You had a lot to look forward to, especially after week one of the preseason. Everything looked great. I guess the good news is that Sam Darnold no longer has mononucleosis. Yeah. Seven-year bump. I posed this question. I got ratioed to hell. I posed this question when JJ McCarthy was announced out for the year.

Am I crazy for thinking Sam Darnold might have a good year? Now that I posed the question before Jordan Addison got hurt, but my whole thinking was he's going to have the best receivers he's ever had. Seventh year bump. Yeah. No mono.

Kevin O'Connell, good coach played quarterback. Kevin O'Connell got good stuff out of Josh Dobbs last year. Yeah. I mean, Sam, he's a quarterback friendly coach. Sam Darnold. Just remember like Sam Darnold did. He did play the quarterback position with the greatest handicap of all time. And that's, uh,

Adam Gase. Adam Gase, yeah. So he had to get the stink of the Jets off him. He's been around smart football guys for the last year. Yeah, he went to San Francisco. Went to San Francisco, did some rehab there. His grandfather's name is Dick Hammer. Yep. So you got that going for you. That's the ultimate Thor for all the Vikings fans out there.

Yeah, this might be crazy to me. This might be the dumbest thing I've thought, but I kind of feel like, and I don't want the Vikings to be good, but I kind of feel like Sam Darnold might surprise some people this year. And I think his head is going to look normal size in that helmet. Yes. In the purple. It's going to look good. Agreed. Yeah.

It could be worse. I think they're doing the right thing. Oh, it definitely could be worse. You want to do the – yeah, you could have absolutely no plan at backup quarterback, which at times it looked like you had no plan at backup last year. Yes. I think he's probably – Remember Josh Dobbs? Yeah, Josh Dobbs was good for like a couple weeks. Whenever he changed the team, he was good for that first couple weeks. Yeah, just bring him in. Just bring him in for one week. Yeah.

He'll probably be on same face as new places. Who, Josh Dobbs? Yeah. Is he in the league? I think he's in the league. Yeah, I think he's on a roster right now. We're going to do that in a second. He's got to be on a roster. But yeah, it could be worse. It's the right call, I think, to do the long-term meniscus surgery, rookie quarterback.

Yeah, no, it's absolutely the right call. You don't want to rush him back from this at all. They're not in win-now mode. It makes no sense to rush him back. A team that I guess is in win-now mode is the Atlanta Falcons, who traded for Matthew Judon. They're all in. They're all in. Hank is not here right now. He's going to be here for the Mount Rushmore. He is, though. We're taping this part of the show, obviously, on Thursday. We taped the Mount Rushmore on Wednesday. Hank is, if you're listening to this, it's already happened. He's going to be here for the Mount Rushmore.

He's led the New England Patriots out...

on the field via lighting no the lighthouse no via ringing a bell he rang a bell it's like a rube goldberg machine yeah you ring the bell and then the bell lights the light or maybe the light's already lit yeah he's ringing the bell to symbolize to commemorate the lighting of the light in the lighthouse and then the team's gonna run out onto the field and hank's gonna have a little shit eating grin on his face i'm happy for him he loves that fucking lighthouse it's gonna be great um

But the last time we talked to Hank, he said that Matthew Judon was having, was it friendly? And what were the two words? Maybe like friendly and good? Friendly, good, normal conversations. Conversations with head coach Mayo. It turns out, and he also took a side swipe at memes and was like, Patriots are a classy organization. We'll figure this out.

The Jets won't. And then maybe like two hours later, Matthew Judon got traded. Yeah. Do we know what they got in return for him? A third-round pick. Third-round pick. Which... Fleeced. Well, I mean, Matthew Judon is a very good player. He's also 32, and he needs a new contract. Yeah. So that would be the part where it's, you know...

Because it always happens whenever a player that you know gets traded and you're like, that's it? Third round pick? It's like, oh, well, yeah, he needs a brand new contract. He's going to get paid. He's going to get paid. And you're right. Although the Falcons, I heard there isn't a plan to give him a new contract. To extend him right away? They actually did the opposite of the Jets. The Falcons might be the classiest organization of the three. They did not trade for him with any pretenses of a new contract. So he's going to go there, but he...

What if he just wants a new contract? I'm sure he does want a new contract. That's why he wanted to trade. But he'd rather play out his contract with a team that's not going to give him a new contract and is upfront about it

than with the Patriots. Yeah, it seems like people don't want to be on the Patriots. Yeah, so it's weird. Also, it goes against everything I've ever known about the Atlanta Falcons, which is they've been committed for as long as I can remember to not having any players that I can name on their defense. Yeah. And now they've got a couple really good players on their defense. Yeah. And I don't know, the Falcons, maybe I was a year ahead on the Falcons. Maybe this is the year that the Falcons tie it all together. I think it's just going to be a lot of teams in the NFC South that are going to be 9-8.

10 and 7 and then the Panthers. Yeah, probably. It's going to go exactly like last year where it's going to be the three-way between the Falcons, the Saints, and the Bucs. And it's like whoever just ends up winning a couple of these head-to-heads will go to the playoffs. I'm going to look at these odds real quick. See what the odds are for the Falcons to win that division because I like them this year. They're probably not that high just because there's no dominant team. Yeah. I have already said that the Saints might not be as bad as people think. But...

But memes, I do. I did want to ask you real quick because you got the side swipe. Um, how are you feeling today? Knowing that you were at least partially vindicated, even though Hassan Reddick is still holding out and the jets are, uh, still not figuring this situation out. Hank being immediately wrong was, uh, delicious, delicious. Oh, good word. Good word. Does it take some of the sting out of your jets? I take some of the sting out. Uh, I still want them to resolve it. Uh,

then it's a massive W for me. Yeah. Then if they, if they get Hassan Reddick signed within the next like 48 hours, then you, you get a huge dub. But if it takes, if it goes into the season, it's a, or if he doesn't play and you trade him for something less than what you traded him for, then you're back to a loss. Yeah.

Yeah, that's a major loss because Hank was technically right. They did figure it out. Yeah, they did figure out Matthew Judon pretty quickly. It was productive and good. Normal, good. Yeah, I think it was good and happy or something. Good and happy. It was friendly and something. Now, Memes, what if you traded Hasan Reddick to the Patriots? That'd be so bad. But what if Hasan Reddick then, Memes, what if you traded him to the Patriots and then Hasan Reddick said, I'm not going to play for the Patriots?

Then that'd be a massive W. Okay, but then what if the Eagles traded the Patriots to get Hasan Reddick back and they got more than what you paid for? That'd be a loss. But the Eagles season's already over because apparently Jalen Hurst is throwing too many touchdown passes and not enough interceptions in training camp. Is that right, Max?

Oh, yeah. Nick Wright is my Florio. Oh, nice. A new Florio has presented himself. So the problem is that he's too good because I know they always say you learn more from mistakes than you do from success. So he's...

He's not throwing enough interceptions to learn anything? Yes, they said that. That's such a good take. He's completing like 80% of his passes. Number one, he just kept saying, he's like, I know this is going to get aggregated. I know this is going to get... So he's doing it. You're aggregating him right now. That's not what Nick Wright sounds like, but yeah. He's doing it to get clicks, and he's admitting that he's doing it to get clicks. Because he knows that he sounds... Yeah, you should never admit... But he sounds ridiculous. He sounds ridiculous.

saying that he's not throwing enough. He's not watching any of the camp. How do you know that? Nick Wright, he's a smart guy. He watches the tape. There is no tape. What do you mean there's no tape? You don't think he's got tape? How many times have we gone to camp and... There's tape being filmed. But you're not... But like... That's for the team. But maybe he has access to it. Yeah, maybe he has access to it. He doesn't have access to that. Nick Wright has all 22 access that nobody else has. He's just saying that he's not taking enough risks. How the fuck is he supposed to know that? Yeah.

It is a great take. He's like, I'm taking enough risks. You got to throw some picks in training camp. It's such a good take. I'm pretty sure I had this exact same take, ironically, about Nick Foles when he threw two interceptions. I was like, this season actually sucks. Yeah, you got to. I mean, you got to. I do. You do want guys taking risks. Like Rodgers at the end of his career with the Packers, there was the argument that he was obsessed with not throwing interceptions, that he would not take some risks.

But even then, you're watching it. Like, if he was watching every play... But you don't know that he wasn't watching. There's no way he's watching it. What about a pick on third down? If you throw it deep down the field, same as a punt. That's a good pick. Sure. Okay. Let's talk about the positive side.

Word out of the Eagles camp is Big Dom is just running the whole show now. Rocks. He's the best. He's the coach of the team. Yeah. No, no. We had a problem last year of someone being the guy that everyone can look up to. We got that guy. It's Big Dom. So, Max, I love Big Dom.

Don't get me wrong. Love the guy. I don't like the way this is going. I'm just curious. I don't either. Be careful. Well, I'm asking a question. Okay, but be careful how you ask it. This is what we do to learn. Be careful how you ask it. It's called the Socratic method. Okay. Just be careful. Now you're saying things that I don't know. Is it a good thing? Don't confuse me. It's all Greek to Max. Max, is it a good thing? Greeks are just Italians who don't pay taxes.

Max fact, is it a good thing? Would it be a good thing for your head of security to be coaching your football team? Yeah, I think so. If, if the head of security is big, Dom. Okay. All right. That's all I want to know. I want to know. Did you guys see, by the way, uh,

When Fantasy Fuckboys comes back, we had the lineup for the Staten Island Little League World Series team that's in Williamsport. I'll just give you a couple of the names. It's great. Okay. It's just Fantasy Fuckboys Central. Batting first is Vin Ruggiero. Yeah. How do you say that? Ruggiero. Ruggiero. Second is Steven Grippo.

Peter Giacchio is the catcher. We also have on the team Dean Scarangelo. Joe Arachi. Dylan DeGotta.

And Dylan the Cat Jason Rocio I can't speak Italian Max, give me some Italian help here R-O-C-C-H-I-O Rocio? Yeah, D. Roach Jason Rocio J. Roach No, you're saying it wrong Dylan Degata is my favorite Yeah, I like that, that's a good one It's a good name But yeah, there's a lot of vowels Just be careful, I'm a big fan The Little League World Series and saying fuckboys

Just saying. Your brain went there. Not anyone else's. That's fucked up. Your brain is there. People don't talk about that enough. Max, you were in it. Some AWL found the game that I played in and put the whole thing on YouTube. You know what I love about the Little League World Series? I love the fact that it's for the kids and they get the best umpires and they do it the right way at Williams.

Yeah. I don't see that a lot. Agreed. And it's something that if you're in wholesome, we can all get by. If you're someone who just spends all day online yelling about the kids and the umpires, maybe get a life. Yeah. Get a life.

Although the one thing I never like about it, though, is the one coach that knows that he's doing something to go viral. Yeah. He knows that he's Mike. Yeah. They lose. And then he brings them all. And he's like, listen, look around. You guys are going to love it. You guys are going to think back to this moment for the rest of your lives. Like, no, they lost. They're out. No, I actually love that Rico just gets so fired up about Lily World Series and the umpires. Yeah. And the system in the system. Yeah.

But yeah, that was good. Before we do this game, what else do we have? Anything else? We're talking about quarterbacks being too good in practice. Jaden Daniels threw five touchdowns in a row. That's pretty good, but maybe too good. It might be too good. Yeah. It might be too good. He needs to learn how to throw better end zone interceptions. Yeah. Yeah.

We had... Oh, there was one other thing. Oh, Jameis Mic'd Up was incredible. Jameis Mic'd Up is really good. I just love him. The entire thing. Just him going up to his teammates and being like, I'm in your establishment now. Yeah. That was great. The U.S. Men's National Team, we got our guy. Yeah. Yeah.

Pocatino. Yep. His name is Pocatino. He's Argentinian. He coached for Chelsea, coached for Tottenham. I think he got them to like the Champions League final or some shit like that. Clearly he's won a lot. He's won. Yeah, he's won some. Where? I think he came in like second place in the EPL. He did win. He did win the French League with PSG. Oh, that's right. The Farmers League. When he had. He. He.

he beat a bunch of Uber eats delivery guys with, uh, Neymar and MAPA and messy. Yeah. Okay. So he has one, I assume that since he was, he was Pulisic's coach when he was at Chelsea, uh,

I'm assuming that they asked Pulisic what he thought about the coach, and then Pulisic said he's a good guy. Then they brought him in. Which might not be the best thing because we've got to make our guys tougher. Well, apparently— They beat up all the time. I read up a little bit about this guy, and he coaches using the theory of energia universal, which means universal energy. Love it. Max, did you get that?

Universal Energy, which is basically he coaches on vibes. He thinks that every player either has good vibes or bad vibes. Hank would not last on this team. He would not. And he has this theory that it's all connected. It's all one song. I like that. So it's a very...

It's a very different coach than what we had in the past. People were telling me last night that we're going to score goals and we're going to give up goals, and that's all I care about. If I can bet the over while watching the U.S. men's national team and win, I don't give a fuck what ends up happening. We could lose every game if there's five goals. He plays, I think his formation is some like four, two, three...

I don't know. That probably doesn't add up to 12 or to 11, but I know that he plays a very aggressive style. So let me ask you this question, PFT. Yeah. As our foremost international soccer guy, would you say this was a home run higher? In soccer terms? I feel like people were very upset or very excited. Like, we got him. This is incredible. We never thought we'd get a guy like this. In soccer terms, it's a grand slam. Okay, it's a grand slam. It's a touchdown. So...

I just want it on the record, if this is a grand slam touchdown of a hire... Mm-hmm.

And we don't get good at soccer. Yep. Could you make the argument our players are not good at soccer? Yes. Okay. Now I'm excited. That's what I've been saying this entire time. Now I'm excited. This entire time. And there have been times in the past when we've had shitty players. I will give you that 100%. There have been times when we've had decent players. Now we have what should be the best players we've ever had. Which is not a huge. It doesn't mean they're good. They're good.

But relatively speaking, I'm saying in the world, they're still not good. Well, they play on the best teams in the world. Meaningful minutes? Many of them. Many of them. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Not a lot of them. There's four or five guys that play significant minutes on really good teams. There's a lot of guys that are on good teams that don't play at all. And then there's a couple other guys that are still up and coming. But what I'm saying is, yes, in the past, you've been 100% right. U.S. soccer has never been...

Anywhere close to the top talent in the world. Now, I wouldn't say that they're in the top five talent in the world. I'd probably say top ten. Okay, I'm just excited for the test. I'm excited for the test. And now that that shithead Greg is out of the picture and he's not too busy getting in pissing matches with his players' dads to put forth a good lineup, I think it's safe to say that this will be a big disappointment if we don't... I think disappointment would be

losing in the knockout round. I think that we need to win at least one knockout round game. I think we should get to the quarterfinals. So I'm just excited for the test now because we'll find out if

If this is a home run Grand Slam hire, we can't blame the home run Grand Slam hire. We can't blame it on the coach. Correct. Yeah, he's going off the ice. I'm excited for it. Universal energy. I hope we're good. I want us to be good. It would be awesome if we're good. I mean, the World Cup would be so exciting. But if we're bad, I'm going to be like, yeah, we're never going to be good.

And I think that would be valid at that point. If we're bad, then it's like, why isn't Jalen Brown on this team? Yeah, this is exciting because I've always wanted to just get to the bottom of it. Like, should we actually invest money and time and resources as sports fans or are we just going to be bad?

I will find out if we're good, then it's gonna be like, fuck yes, let's go win a world cup. I'm also interested to see what this guy does in terms of, because when you're the U S soccer coach, you're in charge of a lot of shit, not just coaching the team on the field. You have responsibility in like developing the youth program. And in the past,

He's worked with like the government of different cities and, and parts of different countries to like get them to buy into his youth development program. So I don't know if this guy's going to go across the United States and be like, Hey, we need to work on our youth development. I'm going to meet with the mayor of like Chicago. I don't know if I'm going to meet with the governor of Texas or whatever. But I'm curious to see, because I think he's going to be coaching for the most part stationed overseas in Europe.

Okay. Which is fine. Listen, we've tried it the other way before. Yeah, we just... And it hasn't worked. When he's here, he just needs to be here. He needs to be... To get all of them.

So is he keeping another job or is this his job now? I think this is his job. Oh, love that. I don't think he's like a step coach. Good for him. Yeah. So Pocatino. Smart move. The bar is low. A European guy from Argentina. Hmm. That's interesting. Yeah. How'd he get down there? Don't know. Okay. Operation paper. Let's anything else? Are the Phillies dead, Max?

They won last night. Okay. So they're back. I just know they've been struggling. They were struggling, and then Schwarber had a grand slam to save the season. The NBA schedule came out. I saw that. Yeah, it opens up with Knicks and Celtics. It's talking basketball. That's about it. What offseason? No offseason for us. Sixers play the Celtics on Christmas Day. Oh.

That's such a gift. That was the number one thing that I saw. I saw the Bulls have two nationally televised games total. I think one of them is against the Hornets on a Friday night at like 10 p.m. That's sick. Is that the NBA Cup, though? Might be. I don't know. No, that's in mid-November. Mid-November, yeah. Oh, and then also, if there's any Notre Dame swimmers listening to this right now, we'll hire you. Yeah.

Yeah. They started a legal gambling ring. I read about that. What's the problem here? I don't know. But I just know that like us having Barstool having its own swimming team that we just challenge other people. Like when we get in beefs online, just like, you know what?

Let's finish this in the pool. Your fastest kind of pool. And we just have like a Harlem Globetrotters-esque team. We just bring them out there. Against guys that can't really swim. Yeah. The Washington Generals of swimming. Let's finish this like men. Let's finish it in the pool. There would be a lot of deaths if that was an actual format. But I read about it. They had like an internal...

pool for lack of a better term like an internal gambling ring okay i'm confused where they would bet on where they would bet on themselves and bet like amongst themselves who's going to finish better and that's just fun that's just dudes yeah what's the problem that's great if you do that that means there's a lot of teams that would have that issue yeah

Because that's... It's classic Notre Dame, though, to be like, we uncovered it. Just wanted to raise our hand and say we found a dicey gambling operation amongst our swimming team. So we're going to shut it down. Yeah. Thank us later. Get in front of this. This is Notre Dame. Get in front of this. All right. Let's get ourselves ready for some football. Before we do this, we're going to give a couple picks. So with DraftKings, you can bet on all the preseason stuff now.

We were thinking about prop picks, so we're going to throw a couple out there. Which one are you going to pick? I'm going to do rushing touchdowns. Okay, and Max, which one are you going to do? I'm going to do passing touchdowns. I had receiver. Okay, so Max, you want to start? Who's your most receiving yards on DraftKings? I'm trying to get the odds for him right now. All right, then I'll start. I'm going to go passing touchdowns. I know that some people might say, oh, sophomore slump. CJ Stroud plus 950. I like it. I mean...

Stefan Diggs, Nico Hollins, Tank Dell. That offense is going to be explosive. I actually saw a picture of someone. It was like a meme, and it was CJ Stroud with those three guys standing on the sidelines. Like, who's going to stop them? And I wanted – I didn't, but I wanted to just circle Stefan Diggs and be like, that's who. He's the guy. When he doesn't get the ball, that's exactly who. Yeah, you're going to have to keep him happy. Yeah, he's plus 950 defensively.

Mahomes and Dak Prescott are the two favorites. So a little value, plus 950. I think CJ Stroud's going to fucking rock this year. I like that. Yeah. That's a good pick, good value. Okay, what do you have? So for mine, I'm going to go with rushing touchdown leader Brees Hall. Ooh. Brees Hall. I just lost the odds. I think it's plus 1,800 plus 1,900. Whoa. Something like that.

And my reasoning behind it is Aaron Rodgers should play more than five snaps this year. Right, Memes? Should. Or else Memes is strapping a what to himself? Yeah. What are you going to do, Memes? Yeah, I'm going to blow myself up. Where? NFL headquarters. Oh. Patrick Beverly not expected to sign with the NFL. But I like Brees Hall because the first year with Nathaniel Hackett that Aaron Jones had in Green Bay, I think he had 16 rushing touchdowns. Nice. And I feel like

Nathaniel Hackett's going to get him the ball inside the five. Do they have a touchdown vulture? Yeah, Braylon Allen is on. Yeah, Braylon Allen. He's 19 years old, and he's actually exactly who they'll use as the goal line. He actually looked really good. Fuck, he looked really good. I don't care. I like Breesol. Breesol's a good player, and Izzy's not knocking on the door this year. Jalen Hurts at 15-1 isn't crazy.

Now Saquon will dip into that. Big cat he is. Saquon and also he throws too many touchdowns now. It's true. Won't be rushing. That's a good point. And the tush push. Who knows what's going to happen with no Kelsey. That's very true. What do you have, Max? It's funny that...

It's funny that PFT went Breeze Hall because I'm going Garrett Wilson at 14-1. All right, we're high on the Jets. Yeah, Garrett Wilson has had a really good... He hasn't been a big touchdown guy, but he's never really had a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers. I think that's good value. He could blow up this year. Okay, I'll change mine to Aaron Rodgers, 16-1. Aaron Rodgers, 16-1. That's actually not a bad pick, Big Cat. I kind of like that pick. He's going to feast against the Patriots. Yeah, and they're going to do the perfect amount of...

handing the ball off in the goal line and throwing it. Jets might score a billion touchdowns. Has that ever happened where three different guys on the same team have led the league in touchdowns at their positions? Well, Memes gets mad that we think that the Jets suck, so now he's going to get mad that we think that they're good. Yeah, he's going to be like, we're jinxing you, Memes? Are we being Florios right now, Memes? I don't know what this bit is. It's actually not a bit. It wasn't a bit. Aaron Rodgers has led the league in touchdowns twice in his career, so...

He can do it. He's proven he can do it. Memes, we can't exist with you, Memes. When we hate the Jets, it's like, oh, you guys suck. When we love the Jets, you're like, this sucks. All right, so we're all in on the Jets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what's the shoot box? No one ever went broke betting on the Jets. Yeah. All right, ready, Huey? Give us some. So we don't. Listen, this is the trust tree. We're doing this because we want to be ready for football season.

We hope that people will not judge us for our lack of knowledge. It's still the preseason. If we were doing this week two, you could make fun of us. Because we're doing this right now, you can't. We're just doing this together. Everyone's going to learn something. Okay? Here we go, Huey. All right. Receiver. Yes. Gabe Davis. Oh, I know this one. Jags. Boom. Oh, yeah. I did not know that one. I did know that one. Well, his previous team... Because the Jags have, like, all the...

The Jags have basically built an entire receiving core out of the upside guys that will also have zero catch games. Should we do a little game, see if we know? What do you mean? You just guessed. You knew that one. Yeah. So Big Cat gets it. Well, we don't have to score. No, it's a team game. Let's see. Let's try to get more than 75% as a team. We're one for one. Okay. What were you going to say? His former team? Well, his former team has collected this quarterback.

Has collected a quarterback. Oh, I mean. Oh, Ben DiNucci. It was Mitch Trubisky. Oh, it's Mitch. And Ben DiNucci. Yeah. Well, I don't know if he knows Ben DiNucci. But Mitch is back on the bench. Yeah, the Cowboys guy. Gucci DiNucci. That's a layup for me. I know where Mitch is at all times. We're actually three for two right now. Bobby Wagner. He's a commander. Yes, he is. There we go. Had a great season last year, too. Sterling Shepard. Oh, Sterling Shepard. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

Sterling Shepard was on the giant for, and now he is on, I want to say Raiders, but that's might be close. The Darren Waller was close trade from the Raiders. Maybe the chargers to the charges. No, it was close in the mascot. Not,

Oh, Buccaneers. Yeah. Okay. That doesn't count as getting one. Isn't it funny, though, that I was like, oh, Sterling Shepard, he's a giant. Now he must be a Raider because Darren Waller was a Raider and then he was a giant. Yep. Nothing to do with each other. They just like trading with each other. Yeah. Quarterback Tyler Huntley. Ooh, Huntley. Where's he at? He's not in Baltimore anymore, huh? Nope. Oh, fuck. That's a shame. This is a good one. Green Bay Packer. No. Hold on.

It's a fun one. It's a fun one? It's a fun one. Texas. No. No, that's Davis Mills, my guy. Tyler Huntley is on the Seahawks. No. Damn. All right, give it to us. The Browns. Oh. Wait, that's fun? But Jameis. It's fun. Okay. Okay. How the hell is Joe Flacco not on the team? He is. He is. What team is he on? Colts. Oh, I knew that. There goes that one.

Okay, so we got that one, too. Love it. So what are we? Now we're six for five? Yeah. All right. We missed Sterling Shepard. Okay. Quarterback Josh Dobbs. Okay, so we talked about this. Josh Dobbs is on... Did he stay? No, he could have stayed with the Cardinals, right? Well, he went from the Cardinals to the Vikings. The Vikings.

Is he a stealer? No, no, no. You're thinking of where he started. Panther? Titans. No. Hold on. Hold on. I don't know this, but I'm just going to say hold on until I just say a name. What team could you envision Josh Dobbs starting one game for this year? This one I'm saying Seahawks. No. Damn. Close. 49ers. Okay. Oh, he's going to be so good when he backs. He's...

Put it in the calendar. Bet on Josh Dobbs when he plays because Brock Purdy gets a concussion. Not that I'm rooting for Brock Purdy to get a concussion, but it will happen, and then we'll bet on Josh Dobbs. All right, six for six. Okay. Odell Beckham. Odell Beckham is a dolphin. Yeah. What about Michael Gallup? Oh. Michael Gallup is very underrated. Yeah. Is Michael Gallup a titan? No. Is Michael Gallup a cult? No. That'd be funny. Michael Gallup a jaguar.

No. Bronco. No. Seahawk. Seahawk. No. Is Michael Gallup a Ram? Close. Charger. No. Is Michael close? Cardinal. Nope. Raider. Yep. Oh, okay. Retired. Hell yeah. This is some good podcast. He's retired. Wait, he's retired?

Okay. He signed with the Raiders and then retired. Nice. Got it. All right. I bet you, though, most people listening are going through the same thing we are. Yes. You need a reset before football season starts. You do. You don't want to get caught week one and be like, oh, shit, he's on that team. Yeah. You can't say that out loud week one. You have to know your shit. Yeah. There's a couple guys you should know and you do know, but, yeah, you can't get all of these. Okay. Tight end Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst. Where did he go? He was on the Patriots.

No, that you're thinking of. I'm thinking of what's his name? Hunter Henry. Hunter Henry. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, I was thinking of that guy, too. Oh,

Is this Hunter Henry? No, it is Aiden Hurst. But in my head, I was thinking the double H. I was thinking, oh, this guy. Is he a Raven? No. No, because remember they have Likely was incredible. Is he a Bengal? And then Mark Andrews who got into a car accident and thankfully he's okay. But then he used the car accident to remind people of the importance of being aware when you're driving a car. Right. Meem says he knows it, which makes you think he's a Jack. No, I said you guys should know this.

Because we saw him. Oh, Charger. Yep. Okay. Bingo. That was cheating, though. Yeah. Sorry. That's okay. Tyler Boyd. Seahawk. I knew he was off the Bengals. Jag? Nope. He seems like a Jag. He seems like a Titan. There we go. Yes. All right. There we go. We have our trusty go-to is Seahawks, Titans, Jags. Jerry Judy. He's a Brown. Yep. Okay. Yeah. We knew that.

That one was easy. Jacoby Brissett? Jacoby Brissett's a Patriot. He's a Patriot. Yep, he's back. He starred tonight, I think. Hank's leading him onto the field. Yeah. Hank knows him personally. You're the one who made this list, Huey. Yeah, I'm... Alexander Madison. Now, this is one of those ones where I'm going to say the Packers because the Vikings got Aaron Jones. No. Okay. Close. Oh, close. Didn't make sense, but it made sense in my head. Is he...

He's not close? No. Oh, okay. Is he a Texan? No. He's a Titan? No. He's a Jaguar. Tell us who he is. Raider. Oh, okay. That makes sense. I like that. I like that fit. Sure, yeah. I was close to the fact that Josh Jacobs went to the Packers and Aaron Jones went to the Vikings, so obviously Alexander Madison would have to go to the Raiders to complete the triangle.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're swingers. Yeah, right. They shuffled the deck. The classic Packers-Viking-Raider three-way trade. Yeah. Everyone knows that. Classic.

All right, how many more you got? Max, are you playing Tech Deck? Yeah, he's been doing it nonstop. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I did it the other night with Schrager on, and I was like, dude, I can hear you doing it. Is there a better time to play with your Tech Deck than during a podcast? That's not me, that's not me. Memes is Mike Wiesel. He's just a dick. Yeah, fuck you, memes. He wasn't even here. Yeah, no, memes, yeah. Good call, Max. Do Tech Deck Cam for the people who are watching. Do Tech Deck Cam real quick and do a trick. You mean Ollie. Come on. He dropped the Tech Deck. Oh, no.

You control your board, bro. How many guys does it take to find a tactic? The Falcons also signed Simmons. Justin Simmons. They're beefing up. I didn't realize also Jim Leonard is coach for the Broncos. That's cool. Yeah. That is cool, right? All right. How many more you got, Huey? I have five defensive players. Oh, this is going to be tricky. And Belichick's coaching for the University of Washington this year. With Pete Carroll. Yep. Start with the easiest. Okay. Devin White. Devin White.

I know this one. Devin White. He's an eagle? Yeah. How could I have ever figured that out? Safety, Xavier McKinney. Seahawk. No. He was a giant. Titan. No. Give it Jaguar. Packer. Oh, okay. The next three are all from the 49ers. They left the 49ers. They left the 49ers. Brandon Ayuk. Randy Gregory. Eric Armstead. Chase Young. Chase Young's a saint. Yep. Yep.

Not literally, but... Seems like a decent guy. He's okay. He went to Ohio State. Yeah. True. Might have some free tattoos. Randy Gregory, back on the Cowboys. No. Randy Gregory, big guy. Yeah. Giant. No. Oh, I thought that was a clue. No, I was just thinking... You were just saying he was a big guy. He's a big guy. He is a big guy. Okay. Give it to us. Bucs. Okay. And Eric Armstead is... Close to the Bucs.

There we go. Got it. All right. Feel good. Did we miss anyone big? I feel like... I have Mike Williams, Tyron Smith. I have a couple names. Mike Williams. Kirk Cousins. You know Mike Williams. Eckler. Eckler, I know that. Mike Williams went viral with the team that he signed with when he signed with them. For doing what? He did a thing. What'd he do? If I tell you, it'll give it away. Just tell him. Well, then tell us, and then we can feel good about getting it.

Taylor Ham egg and cheese. Oh, he's a giant or jet jet. Yeah. Okay. We do that. Yeah. It's all about getting the right answer and being like, I got that myself. That's the key to trivia. Okay. That was good. I feel like we got a bunch of them. I'm trying to think if there's any off top my head that I was looking at.

Josh Jacobs. I haven't really looked at it. Josh Jacobs is a good one. You need to know that. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah. And it's also good for your fantasy drafts too. Yeah. Like remember where some of these guys are. Trying to think anybody else, any weird guys that we didn't cover. I think we're good. I mean, I'll throw this one out. Obviously, I know, but DeAndre Swift is a bear. Yeah. I feel like that will get people a little confused maybe.

So he is a bear. How's Jameer Gibbs? What's the prospect on his hamstring? He's going to be all right. He's going to be all right. The hamstring, just doing things, acting up. It'll be all right. He'll be all right. Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry about. Nothing to think about. Nothing to worry about. No. For us. So stop thinking about Jameer Gibbs. Yeah. He's going to be all right. He's a big kid. Good guy. Big kid. That's what they say about him.

You gave the speech that I give to my kids when they get a boo-boo. I'm like, you're tough. You're big. You're a big kid. You're a big boy. You're a big girl. That's all I need. That's all I need. Just a hamstring. You're fine.

You want me to kiss the boo-boo? All right, you're good. Get back out there, Jameer. That's what Dan Campbell does. Every player that gets hurt, he kisses the injury, and then they just heal. Ready to go. All right, let's do our Mount Rushmore movie quotes. The MMA event of the year, Battle of the Giants, is coming up fast.

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My best friend Hank, my brother for life Hank. Our special boy. Has been bestowed with an incredible honor. Henry, would you like to tell the people where, so you'll be on Mount Rushmore because we're recording it early, but you won't be on the rest of the show for Friday, but it's probably the greatest excused absence of all time.

Yeah, truly an honor. I have been asked, we kind of alluded to it earlier in Mount Rushmore season, but I have been asked to lead the New England Patriots out of the tunnel. You're running on the field? By being the keeper of the light. That's the tradition in New England. So you're keeping the light? I have been asked to be the keeper of the light. I'm going to be ringing the bell to lead the team out onto the field against the Eagles. You're lighting the lighthouse? Essentially, yeah. So you're running out with them on the field? Yeah.

No, I'm leading them out. How? By lighting the bell on the lighthouse. Okay. Signal for them to run on the field. Hank, you're the lighthouse expert, not me. What does ringing a bell have to do with lighting a lighthouse? Because I'm... This is semantics at this point. You guys are just trying to get on, Hank. No, I'm actually very asking questions. I actually, I'm an OPFT. By the time that this has aired, I do not exactly know how this system works, but by the time this has aired, you will have seen it. So I honestly don't have the answer for you.

Okay. I appreciate your honesty. You can find out by the time people look at this. I'm very excited for you. They will have seen it. Yeah, you sound really excited. No, you are the number one New England lighthouse fan in the world, so this is a big deal. And most lighthouses, to keep the light, you ring a bell.

Most every lighthouse has bells equipped on it. Yeah. Because if you don't know, lighthouses were like, you know, to signal people like the ships are coming in, ships are coming in. You have to let people know. So there's bells on lighthouses to keep ships away. But what about the light? The light is the thing that's to see. Like there's multiple uses for a lighthouse. It's very versatile. Give me the two multiple uses to one guide ships into the harbor.

To alert other ships like, well, who are the Bates sisters? You know the Bates sisters. No. I'm not familiar with the Bates sisters. The Bates sisters back in the Revolutionary War, they saw the British coming and they got on the lighthouse to sing. Oh, two if by land, one if by sea or whatever it was. I thought that was Paul Revere. Yeah. Yeah, I think that was Paul Revere. No, that was Ichabod Crane. Headless Horseman. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's exciting. Well, congratulations. We're so excited for you. You can tell by our tone that we're excited. Yeah, you guys are always excited for me, my biggest supporters, and I'd like to say thank you. No, it's great. I mean, the Summer of Hank continues. What do you think is going to be a bigger honor, getting to ride on the duck boat with Coach Missoula or keeping the lighthouse?

It's up there. The Missoula one was all the time, though. This is probably top five, but the Missoula one is 1-1. Are you a little worried that when you ring this bell for the lighthouse, do I have that right? Again, I don't know exactly how the system works, but I'll be able to give you much more clarity on Sunday's episode. I'm sorry that I can't give you every answer you guys are trying to wheeze out of me. When you ring the bell for the lighthouse...

Are you worried at all that you're ringing the bell for the ending of Summer of Hank? No. Okay. All right. I didn't know. Summer's not over. I say this every year. Summer is not over. Don't give up on summer yet, people. It's the beginning of Hank. It's not over. Of the autumn of Hank. Hanktober. Dunktober. Dunktober. Oh, that's what's happening? Okay. I'm a port. And Dunkember. And Dunkember. And Dunkember. And Dunkember.

Dunk Ember. Dunk Annuary. Dunkuary. No, Dunk Annuary. We're too late. Dunkuannuarymentary.

Okay. But summer's not over. I hate people that give up on summer early. I love it. I agree with you, Hank. Yeah. We quit on summer way too early. It's football season. This is going to be huge. We live for the summer. You got to enjoy every last weekend you get. Yeah. Keep that light, Hank. Thank you. Are you a little bit worried that someone's going to catch you at a camera angle? Like, was it the guy from Texas Tech that was ringing that bell where it just looked like he was jerking off into the bell? I'm not worried about that. That's a funny video. But no, I'm not worried about that. Okay. All right. Good, good, good, good.

All right. That'd be a shame. Let's do the Mount Rushmore. It is the Mount Rushmore of movie quotes. It's going to be a good one. Right now, it looks like PFT is going to win today's Mount Rushmore because he had boobs. Boobs was a system play. Hank, are you in last right now?

Is that a rhetorical question? I'm assuming yes. Okay, so what's the scoring? Is it four points? Yeah, so I'm going to be up by three. It's really confusing. I'm going to be up by three on Hank. Is it three or is it four? Because I think you get first place, you get one, or you get four points. It might be five. Wait, you get first place, you get four points. If you get last place, you get one point.

No, it's four for first place. Four, three, two, one. It might be four. It's very simple. Four, three, two, one. So I'm going to get four points, Hank. You're going to get a point. So I will be up by three. Are you sure? Movie quote. Yeah, it's true. I don't own a gun. Let alone many guns that necessitate a gun rack. No stairway. Okay. Ready? Ready, Hank? Mm-hmm. Whose pick is first? That's Big Cat. Oh. Is it? And who goes after me? Hank. Got it. Got it.

Okay, movie quotes. I'm going to go with the timeless classic. Very easy. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. Godfather. That's a great quote. I love that quote. Yeah, you've seen that movie many times. I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. And then he puts a dead horse in his bed. Yeah, I mean, that's part of it. Yeah, that's part of the offer. Well, he declined the offer.

And the dead horse was like, don't decline the offer. Yeah. Okay. Negotiation. He said way. Yeah. No way. And then he said way. Hank. Dank. Do you like that quote?

Yeah, it's a good quote. Okay. Was it on your list? No. Oh, okay. Great. My list, again, I'm the worst person at this game, but I went with movies that I love. I love Godfather. No, I know. But Godfather- You don't love it. I don't love it. I've seen it a few times. I haven't seen it a million times. I kind of just went with the quotes off the top of my head from movies I've seen a million times. So you're going to do like, oh, you want to come in my ass? I don't know what that's for. I mean, what movies you love.

What movie is that? You know what movie that is. What about Someone Help Me, I'm Stuck in the Window? Yeah. Oh, where do you want to put it? It's usually the dryer, but I'm going to go with... They're pretty wet to me. I got to go see About a Girl. Ah, nice one. My most famous quote from the movie, Good Will Hunting. They end up breaking up, right?

I think it's open-ended. No, he went to Stanford and she was fucking another guy. Oh, I thought he left and he went to go see about her. His car broke down, actually, because it was a shitty car. Okay. Yeah. I wouldn't know anything about it. He only got two hours. Okay, good quote. Thanks. I'm not prepared for this one. What does that mean? I'm not prepared. There's a million movie quotes. They didn't just pop into my head. I have like 40 that are just sitting here. This one I feel good about. You guys probably won't.

But it was my favorite movie growing up as a kid. Hey, I'm the garbage kicking Philly kicker. No. You're killing me, Smalls. Okay. Ah, good one. Sandlot. Sandlot. It would have been funny if you just went all Rocky. That also plays like there's movie quotes and there's movie quotes that people say it all the time. Yeah. You just say that to me. You're killing me, Smalls. You're killing me, Smalls. Yeah. It's a good one. Okay. All right. So I get two, right? Yeah.

You get two. Yeah. And then it's Max. Yeah, that's Max. Then it's when do I come again? Big Cat and Big Cat gets two. Is that a quote you have? I'm going to go with I'll be back. Schwarzenegger. Yeah. Terminator. Yeah. There's a lot of Schwarzenegger Terminator Terminator two. I think that was Terminator one. I think. Seems like you love that movie. Is it movies or is it quotes?

Movie quotes. Movie quotes. Okay. All right. I just want to make sure I was getting this right. It is spicy in here and I like it. I actually don't know which movie that's from. That's a movie quote. All right. Pardon my take every episode. Number two, I'm going to go with I'll have what she's having. When Harry met Sally. Couldn't tell you. Got it. Got it. Got it. I mean. I knew that quote. I just couldn't remember the movie. Undeniably one of the most iconic movie quotes of all time. Yes. They're in the diner.

She's faking an orgasm. Then Rob Reiner's mom says, I'll have what she's having. Classic. Classic bit. Undeniable. Undeniable. Can't deny that one. Did you have that one, Hank? I did not. Okay. I am going to go Show Me the Money, Jerry Maguire. Good pick. Okay. Very funny scene. That was like one of the... I think I remember watching that movie as a kid. I think that's a rated R movie. It was one that was like...

I watched it earlier than I should and I remember watching that scene being like, that was so fucking funny. Yeah. And it's a good quote. Are we, for the graphic, we're obviously going to put the movie? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Show me the money. Now it's a TikTok judge. There's a great line from that movie too that could have been on this list. The human head weighs eight pounds? Yeah. There's a couple. There's a few.

Whatever. What other way? I mean, you had me at hello. You weren't thinking of the human head. But that's still in play. Show me the money scene is funny, is funny, is the funniest one to me. That's why I picked that one out. Yeah. Give me my money. Give me my money. I will go with this one. It might be a stretch, but it actually applies to me the most. I actually turned on this video yesterday.

Last night, because I've been going through it a little bit in life and in this segment specifically. Oh. The night is darkest just before the dawn. Oh. And it's dark for me right now. From? From Batman, the Dark Knight. Nice. Is that true? Yeah, definitely. Okay. Why else would they say it? Yeah, good point. Yeah. Okay. So I have two now, Hank? I just want...

Yeah, you went Hank. Max, you went before. Max went before. Okay, correct. So Big Head has two. Okay, I have two. Yeah, Snake. I have two. Okay, all right, all right. I'm going to stick with the theme real quick with Al Pacino. I'm going to go with Say Hello to My Little Friend. That's a good one. I had it. I had it. I had it. He's just Scarface. Classic. All right, and then I'm going to go with a newer movie.

And I feel like this is more just like people like to use this everyday life, memes, everything. I farted out of my heart. That is a good movie quote. I should have put that down. I'm going to go Wolf of Wall Street. I'm not leaving. I'm not fucking leaving. That's a good one. Yeah. It's definitely had an emergence. Yeah. Yeah. Gets you fired up. Anytime a coach stays. I'm not fucking leaving. Yeah. Yeah. Just gets you fired up. Hank.

There's a lot. There's a lot to pick from. There's a lot of good quotes. That's what makes this hard. Yeah. It's a good Mount Rushmore. Great topic by you, Hank. You're the one who picked it. You picked this Mount Rushmore, so credit to you for picking a great Mount Rushmore, Hank. Did you know it was your turn? Oh, you just picked two? You fucking asshole. Oh, okay. So it's my turn. See, this one actually, like, I think that people have the wrong...

was one of those people until I googled it to double check, but the quote is, you're going to need a bigger boat. Yeah. Yeah. You would think it's, we're going to need a bigger boat, but it's, you're going to need a bigger boat. But that's my pick. It's a good quote. I had it on my list. But did you not think it was, we're going to need a bigger boat? Yes. I thought it was, I think we're going to need a bigger boat. Yeah, Berenstain Bears style. Yeah, definitely. But the quote is, you're going to need a bigger boat. So that's the quote. Yep. Okay. Good pick, Hank. Max.

Max is struggling. I have a question. Yes. Can I also take a Godfather quote? Yes, of course. Okay, then I'll leave the gun and take the cannoli. Okay. All right, good pick. Good pick from a famous scene. Great pick. Great pick. PFT? Oh, am I up? Yeah. Okay. I have two? Yeah. I've thought of like six more quotes doing this. I know. Okay. I just don't know.

This is very hard. It's very difficult. I'm going to go with Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. Forrest Gump. Come on. Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get. How can you rob the people? Those must be comfortable shoes. I wish I had me some shoes like that. I actually was not picking it. Mama said they were my magic shoes. I was not picking it because I wanted you to pick it because I wanted you to do it. Jenny and me was like peas and carrots.

Okay. Magic legs. I could just keep doing this. Okay. So I get two. So I'm going to have another one. And my second pick is going to be you can't handle the truth. Good one. Versatile. You just scream it at anybody. Very, very versatile. Yeah.

I hate my draft is horrible. I'm just going to keep going with it. Mine's worse. Mine is so bad. I'm just going to go, yo, Adrian, give me a Rocky. It's a good one, yeah. Yo, Adrian! You just took the meatballs apart. You know what's great? Max never overthinks it, and that's why he does so well. Yeah, it's true. No, I'm going to lose this one. He empties his brain. For sure. Okay, Hank, your last pick.

I feel like I have to. He's the most quoted person in my life. I think the most quotable movies that he has, so I have to pick one from him. There's so many to choose from, but I think what will look the funniest on the graphic is Today Junior. Okay. Had to get an Adam Sandler quote on here. Yeah. There's so many. It's hard. I kind of wanted to do. The one I like to say the most is, I eat a piece of shit like you for breakfast. Do you eat a piece of shit?

But that's just a lot of words. Yeah, but so what? But today, Junior. It's a good one. It's a good one. That's a good one. Okay, I'll go with my last one. There's so many. We should do Adam Sandler movies. I know. Oh. I like this one. Fuck. I'm going to go with it. There are so many good ones. I have so many left on the floor. It could have gone 12 rounds. But I love this one because you can use it for everything else. Should we just go eight? We could go eight. Eight.

Six. If you guys were the inventors of Facebook, you'd have invented Facebook. I love that quote. Okay, yeah. You just basically just write it someone's face. Like, if you would have done it, you would have done it. DeWinklevise. Yeah. Well, Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, said it to DeWinklevise. All right, so we have honorable mentions. There's so many. So many. There's one. Like, I was kind of thinking, because Hank is right. The smaller quotes help.

Like Are You Not Entertained Would have been a good one Fuck Why So Serious Batman Why So Serious Was definitely the Yeah Wonder how I got these scars Yeah Why So Serious Is definitely the Just Keep Swimming Finding Nemo Yeah

Look at me. Look at me. I'm the captain now. That's good. That's a good one. I feel the need. The need for speed. I like that. Top Gun. Bond. James Bond. Bond. James Bond. My team is on the floor. Hoosiers. Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever. I probably fucked up. I probably fucked up my last quote. I should have gone with the other one I was thinking about. You blitz all night.

Life moves pretty fast if you don't stop and look around once in a while. You can miss it, Ferris Bueller. Yeah, Ferris. If you build it, he will come. Yep. Yep. Get to the chopper. I see dead people. That's a good one. I know you are, but what am I? Pee-wee's Big Adventure.

I loved that movie as a kid. Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. Godfather. Yeah. There's no crying in baseball. That's good. There's no crying in baseball. It's good. Max is not giving us any honorable mentions. No, I'm not. Well, I wasn't prepared. One that's very quotable, but I don't really know how you... Because you've got to get the whole line in, but...

Hey, Greg, why don't you go piss your pants again? That was eight years ago, asshole. People don't forget. Yeah. I guess you could just go people don't forget, but kind of need the whole thing. But that one, people don't forget, is like. Did we just become best friends? Yep. I mean, that's always us. The two of us. This is something I ask my friends a lot. But what is the movie that you think you know the most percentage of lines in it? Forrest Gump.

Like, not quotes from it, but like word for word, whole movie. Yeah. Forrest Gump. Probably Silence of the Lambs. I had one of those quotes in there. The Chianti? Since it's taken... One's tried to test me. That's like a lot. There's a lot of dialogue. I'm talking about every line of dialogue. Oh, um... It puts lotion on its skin. Yeah. Yeah. I would say... Benjamin Rath's bell. A fledgling killer's first flight. Hester Moffat, it's an anagram. Clarice...

The rest of me. Is Silence of the Lambs a sequel? Kind of. Brian Cox played Hannibal Lecter. I think it kind of is. I think Manhunter was a prequel that came out. I don't know. I get the timeline. No, well, there's Red Dragon, which is awesome. I read an article that was... And there's Hannibal 2, which was not great.

And then there's Hannibal Four, I want to say, that was okay. I read an article about how Brian Cox worked on Super Troopers, and it was like they offered it to Bill Murray, then he turned it down. Brian Cox read it. He was like, I always kind of wanted to do comedy, and then I played Hannibal Lecter, and my whole career changed. I was like, wait, Brian Cox played Hannibal Lecter? Yeah, that was Manhunter.

Yeah. So, but that was before silence of the land. Yeah. Yeah. So Hannibal Lecter was a sequel is played by two different people. I don't, I don't know if they call it a sequel and like the classic sense of it, but yeah, it's like in the same universe. Yeah. Um,

One of my favorite You don't need to see Manhunter to see Silence of the Lambs Correct Right And you don't need to see Red Dragon Or you don't need to see Silence of the Lambs I've never heard of Red Dragon Oh dude Red Dragon is incredible I've also never heard of it Watch Red Dragon Edward Norton It's scary as fuck So fucking scary Awesome movie There's a lot of naked crouching in that movie Yeah Heads up Dude you Red Dragon is awesome Um

One of my favorite quotes of all time from a movie, but I feel like it wouldn't have really played on the graphic. And it's also, I mean, Roadhouse is a popular movie, but I used to fuck guys like you in prison, which was an ad lib.

Like quote It wasn't on the script Because it still makes no sense You just He had him in a choke hold He said I used to fuck guys like you in prison So he's just saying that he fucked My favorite quote Cardi and Cole do it My favorite quote Utah get me two Two My favorite quote from Roadhouse That's a great one There's so much Pain don't hurt Yeah I know a lot about golf

Or no, you know a lot about golf. I know even more about grass. Yeah. I fucked up my last pick. King Kong ain't got shit on me. Houston, we have a problem. Houston, we have a problem. King Kong ain't got shit on me. Damn. Going streaking. I didn't know you like to get wet. Yeah. You just smoke PCP, Jake. Come on, Jake. I had if you could dodge a wrench, you could dodge a ball. Yeah. Head body, head body. I actually think you didn't use the most. Oh, fuck. One just popped in my head. You're going to say urine?

What? Dodgeball? No. No. That's what I love about these high school girls. Yeah. They get older and they stay the same age or just all right, all right, all right. What are some, yeah. Shit. I also had Smokey, this is not Nam, this is Bowling. Yep. And also, well, yeah, you know, that's just like your opinion, man. You're entering a world of pain. Yeah. There's a lot of good ones. This is what you get when you fuck a stranger in the asshole. Yeah.

They're nihilists. Yeah, Big Lebowski has a great one. Ass to Ass from Requiem for a Dream. By the way, I don't know if this was on camera or not. No, I don't think it was. I think it was a disc golf, right? We were playing disc golf, and we started to do the Requiem for a Dream music. All right, this is crazy. The dramatic opera song that goes... You've heard it in every dramatic movie, every dramatic commercial.

And Hank said, I feel like you guys don't understand satire, even though that was so serious when you said that. There was no way that was satire. I knew the song was from wet cream for a dream. PFT. Do you think I didn't know it was from wet cream for a dream? I think. Are you saying wet cream? Requiem. Hank said that the 2009 Boston Celtics made that song famous.

Right, which like, if you think I was being serious when I said that. I think you were. We're going to have to check the tapes. Yeah, we'll check the tapes. We'll get to the tapes. We'll go to the tapes. This is a good Mount Rushmore. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue. Yeah, that's a good one. You ever been in a Turkish prison? That's a good one.

Shit. Anything else? You motorboat and son of a bitch. Good Mount Rushmore, Hank. Good Mount Rushmore. Not you, not you. Yeah, I thought you would have gone more departed. It's not going to be me, you, and Sean. What's the one... I'm the guy who...

When he's like, I'm the guy who does this and you're the other guy. Who's the bad guy? Oh, the bad guy. Great one. I'm the guy that does his job. Yeah. You must be the other guy. Yeah. That's departed. Yeah. Oh, I thought you'd go with some of those. Whose car we take? All you care about is playing Coke and Xbox. Whose car are we taking? Yeah. You missed that. That was a big miss for you. I could have just done Boston movies. Yeah. Playing football for West Canyon High School was the opportunity of your life, but I don't want your life. There goes college soccer. All right. Good Mount Rushmore. Thank you, Hank.

Good luck. Thank you. Lighting. Well, when this airs, you have already. Wait, is he lighting it or is he ringing a bell? He will have rung the bell. And you can't unring a bell. He's going to lead the team out onto the field. And that's what you guys don't understand. It's great. They had the rugby team do it for week one. Hank, week two. It was big. Yeah.

Ring that bell. Sounds like you're... No, I love rugby. No. If I had said it, watch. He said it that way. I said, yeah, they had the rugby team do it week one and then you did week two. See, that's different. The Free Jacks did it. You're going to be great. You're going to do great. Hank, listen, I love rugby. I love you. This is a big fortnight for me. And you love rugby too. You stiff arm Max. Remember that? Yeah, that was a great clip. We should post that more. Yeah. Memes, what happened to that one? That clip kind of fell off. Did somebody pay you off?

The stiff arm one? Yeah. No, I can bring it back. Cool. Okay, great.

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Los Angeles Chargers, Khalil Mack. Wish he was still a Bear. This is our Grit Week interviews presented by Coors Light. So, Khalil, first of all, thank you for joining us. First question, same question we ask everyone on Grit Week. Yeah. How do you define grit? Oh, man. Just a badass, tough motherfucker willing to do anything to help the team win. Okay. That's a good answer. You a badass, tough motherfucker? Yeah.

I mean, it should be obvious. I shouldn't have to tell you. I want it to be obvious with my actions on the field, not just speaking on it. Yeah, I would say you are. A true badass motherfucker doesn't have to say they are. Everyone just knows. I want you to say it for me. Yeah, you are. You are a true badass motherfucker. We can redo the intro if you want. We're joined by a very special guest, Khalil Mack.

A true badass motherfucker. Yes. Thank you, man. That sounds good. Thank you. That sounds cool. So, Khalil, I talked to you a little yesterday. I wish you were still a bear.

But we're excited to have you on. I'm happy that you're doing well with the Chargers. How many sacks did you have last year? 17 and a half. Jeez, 17 and a half. 17, maybe 17. I should have actually entered it differently, future Hall of Famer. Have you thought in your head the number of sacks you want to get to? Because you're over 100. You're getting into that territory where it's like these are some real dudes up here. Do you have a number in your head? No.

definitely don't have a number in my head. The only number I had in my head was the 100. Knowing I can get to that was pretty cool last year. But from now on, it's just

going out and playing ball. Yeah. And it's crazy that you got to 100 sacks with, for people who don't know your story with football, you only played one year of high school football, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a whole alternate world where you don't get hurt playing basketball in high school and you never play football? Low key, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. I probably be a physical trainer or something. Yeah.

- Yeah. - That's nuts. - Athletic trainer, yeah. - So it was a knee injury? - Yeah, yeah, patellar. - You tore your patellar? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And then you came back and you became one of the most explosive football players in the world. - Yeah, man, yeah. - That's pretty cool. - God is good, God is amazing, man.

So when you switched to football, because you were, you know, obviously you were thinking, all right, basketball, I'm going to get a scholarship. You have one year of high school football. Were you like, this might be the end for me? Like, unless I have to play out and then hope that something falls in my lap here? Yeah, low key, man. But the first day we put pads on, my head coach at the time in high school, his name is Wade Ashman, he said, uh,

he said uh after after the after the padded practice he was like i might be able to get you a scholarship man that might be turned into a offer from liberty university and then that

That changed into an offer from a university at Buffalo. Yeah. So that was first day he was like, oh, yeah, you might be a scholarship guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. That's awesome. So you go from Florida. You grow up in Florida. And then you go up to Buffalo. Yeah. We love Buffalo. Buffalo's a great city. Yeah, I love Buffalo too, man. Great people up there. But the first time you got to really experience the cold in Buffalo as a guy from Florida, what was that like? Man, it was life changing, man. I think I had my biggest winter coat on.

the first day of maybe like 50 degrees and everybody was looking at me like, why you got your biggest, I think it's called Burlington Coat Factory. My father took me to Burlington Coat Factory to get me the big jacket and I had it on thinking that was the coldest it was going to get. But when it got to negative 10 and 5,

It was definitely life-changing. Yeah, and at Buffalo you were insane. First team All-American in the MAAC, which is hard to do. At what point in your career at Buffalo could you tell, not that the game was easy for you, but you were clearly just so much better than everyone else on the field? Man, I remember the first day of padded practice going against the tight end at the time was a guy named Jesse Rack.

I think he was probably like a decorated guy as well in the MAAC conference. And I remember whooping him pretty good. Shout out to Jesse. No offense. Jesse's just sitting in his house right now like, what the fuck? I remember whooping him pretty good and then going against another guy, James Starks. And him instilling that confidence in me like, man.

You can ball, bro. I heard it from him. Seeing him go on to Green Bay and do what he did his first year in the league and win the Super Bowl and all those different things, it kind of helped my confidence. Yeah. And then going into the draft process, I know GMs, they like to get real weird with it. They like to figure out if a guy's –

mentally tough enough, especially if they come from a small school, right? Like maybe all your physical stuff is out there and they measure it and they're like, yeah, it fits the profile. But when they're talking to you, were they like, were they trying to fuck with you a little bit, like knock you off balance in the interviews? I feel like the only interview I had that ended up being like the funniest one because that's the team that drafted me was with the Raiders.

And so talking to them, it was definitely funny in a sense that they would try to get a feel for the type of person I was just from the 15 minute conversation at the time.

It wasn't so much of them trying to figure out if I was tough because I feel like they can already tell. But just seeing the demeanor that I have off the field versus the one I have on the field is kind of two different things. Yeah. Did you talk to Mark Davis in that interview process? Not Mark Davis. I just remember talking to Reggie McKenzie and all the guys that were under him.

at the time. And, um, yeah, I didn't get a chance to talk to Mark. Cause Mark, he's a hero of ours. I know you probably have your differences with the whole contract. No, no, no. It's all love. It's still all love, uh, from, from Mark, but the Gruden, the Gruden, the Gruden guy is the guy that I probably had the biggest issue with. Yeah. That was weird. Right. Because I remember the contract negotiation cause you were, uh, first team all pro and, and, uh, was it, was it Oakland at the time or was it Vegas? Man, I,

I really can't remember. What year was it? Maybe it was, was it 18? Yeah, you were always on the Barrett. I was with the Barrett's in 18. Yeah. So I know you had your differences with the organization, but Gruden was coming in and it felt like that contract negotiating just kept getting dragged out and dragged out. It's like, when is this going to happen? Is it going to happen? And then you get traded and Gruden says that you didn't want to be there. Yeah. But you never talked to Gruden. Exactly. Have you talked to him yet?

Man, I talked to him a few times since then. A few, supposed to be private conversations, but one of them was, "Oh, you motherfuckers won. You motherfuckers won the trade or whatever at the time." And I knew we were going to play Oakland that next year after my 18, that year in 18 with the Bears. I think we was going to play them in London. He was like, "I'm going to send the house at your ass whenever we play."

And that motherfucker, he really did. Yeah. It was funny. It was funny just interacting with him over the phone and kind of squashing the beef, but not really. Yeah. Because it's always going to be that same feeling every time I see those colors on the other side. Yeah, use it to motivate you. I had another question about your draft process. How much –

Do you think your helmet, your face mask helped you get drafted so high? Because that was the coolest face mask ever, the one you wore at Buffalo. You look like Bane. Yeah, I wanted to wear it in the league. I thought...

Ray Lewis probably wore it maybe the year before. Yeah. Two years or three years before. I know Justin Tucker was wearing it. And then they changed the rules as soon as I got to the league. And so maybe that did help. Yeah. That was the coolest thing ever. I also read a story. I wonder if you remember this. I read a story that you were so dominant in practice at Buffalo that they would make you line up like five yards off of the line.

Because they were like, the offense can't get their plays off? No, that ain't true. Okay, they never did that? That's funny, man. Okay, and then the other one, the other story I read, which was crazy, I guess there was a pass rush where you one-arm hit the tackle and he was falling into the quarterback and then you grabbed the tackle and basically picked him back up so he didn't fall into the quarterback.

Man, I think I'm still doing that shit. It's great. They said they watched it after. Like, what the hell? Just like the quarterback. The story I read, the quarterback watched it after and was like, Khalil Mack saved my life. Because you basically threw him in the air. And then as he was falling, you grabbed him and pulled him back. There's some quarterbacks that's been on the wrong end of that. I think Eli. I think I called Eli. I wasn't trying to do it.

But it just so happened that way. I think Eli was the only guy I probably got like that. Just throwing someone else into him? Yeah. Maybe him and Kirk Cousins maybe. Yeah, those two check out for guys that would get sacked like that. Your best sack of all time was when you sacked Aaron Rodgers with your ass. Yeah. That was awesome. It was the ass sack.

And you forced a fumble, right? I thought they called it the back sack. No, it backed that ass up. Yeah. Was that the week one game? It was a great sack. No, I don't think it was week one. The week one game sucked, that one when they came back. I think it was the NFC when we clinched the NFC. Yeah, yeah, at the end of the season. NFC North. Yeah, at the end of the season, yeah. But in the play, you can watch it back and you realize, oh, I'm not going to be able to turn around. I'm just going to stick my ass. And your ass forced a fumble. Come on, man. You talk about ass. Yeah.

I mean, it's true. I knew he was somewhere back there. I was trying to grab at the ball. And so, yeah, whatever. By any means, I was trying to get that motherfucker, man. Yeah. I do have to bring up a bad memory, the double doink. But I want to talk about the 2018 Bears because that defense was so much fun to watch. Yeah, man. At what point in the season were you like, this is a different – because I thought –

But, you know, if you beat the Eagles, like, the sky's the limit with the way the defense is playing. Yeah, man. Yep, yep. Man, man, bringing back memories like a mug, man. The first day there, man, I kind of just got a feel for the guys. Knowing that Kyle Fuller was there, I knew –

We had a ball on the outside, but I didn't know a lot about Prince or Mookamore. Yep. But sitting down, talking with him, and then figuring out that he can press off the line and all these different things. And I didn't even know this young guy, Eddie Jackson, was in the back end. Right.

ready to catch the ball and score at any moment. Yeah. Along with Amos and Hicks. And then you got two guys, a guy that just got drafted in Roquan Smith at the time and Danny Trevathan in the middle. Yep. And then Akeem and Eddie Goldman and Leonard Floyd on the outside. So it was like, I didn't know I was coming into this because I didn't, I really didn't know a lot about the Bears organization before I went.

I think I made a joke and said I met like the whole McCaskey family and had no clue who was who. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was like a real like big shock in the culture of like just seeing how big that family was and how much that team meant to the city of Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. And that.

Double doink. How long did it take you to... Man. People still just, like, spam it in my replies on Twitter all the time. I'm a bit delusional because it's like, at the time, I was thinking, man, this...

it won't be so bad. We can keep this group together. Yeah. We can come back next year and have another shot. Yeah. And that's what I've immediately fixed my mind to. But as time goes on, you feel it more. And just the understanding of, damn, that was a rare opportunity right there, man, to really do something.

What I want to do before I hang them up. Yeah. Do you think it was maybe a mistake the next season started with Matt Nagy doing, ending every practice with kickers kicking from that spot? Oh, man. See, I don't know that. I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah. You tried to, like, exercise the demon. All that does, it just puts it right back in your head. Yeah. I mean, it is a crazy play. Yeah. Double doink. And you guys are so good. Like, I know that I'm obviously very biased.

And everyone laughs at the Bears and we're a joke and all that stuff. But that team was playing – like I remember the game that I think about in that season was when the Rams, who end up going to the Super Bowl that year, come with their offense to Soldier Field. And I think you guys didn't even let them score a touchdown. Just absolutely demolished them. And I was like, this is different. Yeah, man. That was a special group, man. Yeah.

And also with Coach Vic Fangio, man, just the mastermind behind him as a whole and him understanding the players that he had and making sure before the week we were prepared and knew what we were going to do and everything was just going to be. We expected to dominate the teams that we went against. And so, yeah, man, shout out to them, man. I definitely miss that group. Do you miss spare weather at all?

Nah, I don't miss the winter. I don't miss the wintertime, but I miss like the fall, seeing the fall seasons and all those different things. Man, Chicago is a beautiful city, man. I moved from Glencoe down to like the, what do they call that, the Golden Triangle. The Golden Triangle, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Viagra Triangle or the Gold Coast? You know what I'm talking about. Viagra Triangle, yeah. Yeah, you know it. I'm still a little young for that. I got to wait until...

My dick stops working. I didn't even know we could talk like this. We can talk like this. Yeah, we can talk whatever you want. Oh, yeah. Any questions about our dick? No, hell no. Okay, all right. If they come up. If it comes up naturally, we're happy to address. Listen, guys need to be able to talk to each other like this. No, man, it's all good. Guys can talk to their group. It's fine, by the way. So you mentioned your dick.

It's not really that good. I told you this yesterday. We have to put to bed the famous Halloween story. Because the media ran with it. That Khalil Mack hates kids. Khalil Mack hates Halloween. He shut down his house for Halloween. Turned off the lights. Had a security out front. What happened? Man, so what happened was some type of way my address was on the news in Chicago. And

Just had random people just randomly coming up to my house for probably like a week before before Halloween even came about and so Talk to my guy tarpy. I don't know if you know yeah, yeah, that my god. Sorry. I'm like tart man I don't really feel too safe right now I'm trying to figure out this is the Chicago media system like they can just put your house online on the news and

He's like, man, trust me, it's different, but we'll figure it out. And I'm like, okay, but before Halloween, we're going to have to figure something out because I know it's probably going to be a lot of traffic coming through here, and I want to make sure everything's good at the house. Yeah. And he was like, okay, bet, we can set something up. And so he just so happened to have one of the security from the team to sit outside to make sure there wasn't anybody really trying to just break in for so much of the –

for so much of the word, for the terms. But, yeah, and at the time, I don't think I had my gate up yet. I think it was partially up, maybe. Yeah. I feel like it was, like, partially up, and the entrances were, like, no gates. Yeah.

And it looked awkward, but at the time, I didn't have any candy. I just moved in. I don't think I had a bed at the time, for real. And so it was one of those things. So for the record, Khalil Mack does not hate Halloween. Yeah. And Khalil Mack is for the kids. I don't celebrate. I personally don't celebrate. Oh, so you might hate Halloween. You might hate Halloween. No, I don't celebrate it. Okay. I don't celebrate it. Why don't you celebrate it? I don't celebrate it because of my beliefs.

- Okay, all right, all right, all right. So, but do you, are you for the kids? - Oh yeah, I'm for the kids, man. - Okay, okay, all right. - Absolutely, absolutely. I just wasn't for, you know, - Your dress getting leaked, I agree with that. - Yeah, that was new. - Yeah, that's crazy. - That was new for me, coming from San Ramon, California, and it wasn't that intense. - Yeah, okay, that's fair. - So if a kid comes up to you, not on Halloween, different day,

dressed in a costume and they're like, Mr. Mac, Mr. Mac, can I have some candy, please, Mr. Mac? Would you give that child candy? You have a bag? You have a full candy in your pocket? Absolutely. Okay. Absolutely. Absolutely. Good. Y'all seen Halloween guys? Yeah. I like candy. You like candy? Yeah. Yeah. What kind of candy do you like? All of it. So my favorites are like Sour Patch Kids. Oh, Sour Patch Kids. I like Three Musketeers a lot. I like Twix. I like Reese's Peanut Butter Cups.

Me too. We saw it down in, I think it was the linebacker's room. There's just two boxes full of candy. They said that that wasn't yours, though. No, no, no. Does Coach Ben Herbert know about that? Man, I hope not. Yeah. I hope not. He'll kick your ass. I hope not. I think I've seen a picture of you doing the neck exercise. Yeah, how strong was your neck? Did he test your neck? Oh, man. He tested your neck? Yeah. He tested our necks. Oh, man.

What test did he do? He put us through a neck workout. He pushed on our head. He put his hand on the back of my head and then gave me a neck workout. Do you think he's made you harder to break? I mean, that's literally what he did. The pictures weren't great for us. They were not great. But my neck is so sore this morning. Yeah.

My neck is very sore. My jaw, too, for some reason. I was working hard. Real hard. That's a different thing, though. That's unrelated. Do you think he's made you harder to break? Man, absolutely, man. Coach Herb, man, he's a smart dude. Intense. Yeah. You know, he

He try to, you know, he come off as intimidating to some people, but I like that energy, man. Almost come off like one of the fullbacks that's a little throw it off in the head. Yeah. That's going to try to knock your head off. But, yeah, he a good dude, man, and he understands the body, man. Wait, so what position group is the craziest on a football team? Like what room is like, don't fuck with those guys?

Crazy in what sense? Like, crazy in, like, what sense? Just, like, they're a little off. Like, mentally they're a little off. They got to be a little off to play that position. Maybe it's D-line. So can we do a top five? Yeah. All right. So crazy in the sense of the word. So, yeah, you will have to – ideally you want your D-line to be a little – A little off. Yeah, yeah. Just get mad at nothing. Yeah. Then you want your linebackers, whether it's edge or inside –

And then you want what you want your old line. Yeah, you want your line I low-key I prefer the old line to be at the top of that list. Yeah Nowadays it don't seem like it's a lot of like crazy old line old linemen. They seem like they got a lot of sense Yeah, but like back Richie and Cockney though. Yeah Yeah, crazy That type of vibe

Nowadays, so I'll put them three. Who else you got? I mean, I would assume you want defensive backs to be a little crazy because they have to have confidence. You want them to be crazy, but you want them to be a little – you want them to be a controlled aggression. Yeah, yeah. Like a safety maybe. Yeah. You want your safety to be a little throw it off. Yeah.

Like, Derwin definitely got a little bit to him. Yeah, he scares me. I like that. He's one of those, like, that'll knock your head off. But, yeah, you could say DBs, but I want to put the – who I want to put in there? Running back? I want to put you – yeah, your running back, fullback. Running back, fullback room in there. Yeah. You got to have the crazy. And then last – yeah, I think – yeah, I –

I think the kicker got to be like a different type of crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Delusional type of crazy. Yeah, right. Like doesn't want to talk to anyone. I can kick this from 70, 60 type crazy. Yeah, like I don't even know where the goal post is. Yeah, exactly. Windy City, what? Like I don't care about the wind. If it's going this way, I'm kicking. So it's like that type of crazy, yeah. Like Janikowski. Yes, yes. Yeah, that's my guy. That's my guy. What was it like meeting him for the first time? Man, it was unique, man. I did not know.

I did not know what type of dude I was gonna actually meet. I thought he was like an older guy, but Jeno was like super cool and laid back.

And, yeah, he'll have something to drink for you in the back of the plane if you wanted some. Talk to you about Poland? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Polish culture? Yeah, yeah. I remember they brought him out one time to try a 76-yard field goal going into halftime. No, he made it. I don't think he made that one. I think that one landed, like, a little bit short because, like, 76 yards, that's crazy long. Listen, that was the only kicker I knew that was built like a –

I don't even know. Like an old line. Yeah. Yeah. How far can you throw a football? I'd say maybe 60, 70 yards. I heard that you have an unreal arm. So you played quarterback when you were a kid and your problem was you couldn't throw short passes? No, no. That's fake? Yeah, that's fake. I don't know what that is. You had good touch? That's what I read. I could throw a decent ball. But, I mean, 67 yards, that's pretty good. Like, why aren't we using you in trick plays?

I mean, we had a play in Chicago, man. I don't think we had a chance to run it. It was like Santa's...

Well, no, Santa's reindeer, I think that was for Keem. It was something like along with a Christmas vibe with Nagy. Okay. But we never got a chance to run it. It was almost like the Derrick Henry play. Okay, so you were going to get the ball, hand it off, and throw it? Yeah, jump and throw it, yeah. That would have been awesome. Yeah, yeah. Matt Nagy was, like, looking down his play sheet and said, be you, and he was like, I can't call the fun play. I need that. That's not me. I need that play. No, he definitely will call them, but later on we went in situations where –

We can play around too much. Tell Coach Harbaugh, put something in for you. I mean, I would hope so. Yeah, I feel like he would do it. So you're just getting to, like, know him, obviously, because he's still a relatively new relationship with you guys. We love Coach Harbaugh. He's, like, a brutally honest guy. Oh, yeah. And he's a football guy through and through. Yeah. So I imagine that the two of you kind of get along. As a veteran, it seems like that's the kind of guy that you could identify or not identify but be like,

I respect this guy because I've been around the business long enough to know that you want a guy that will give me bad news or tell me I'm not doing something right and be direct with me. Absolutely, man. Absolutely. And that's from top to bottom, man. You could tell whenever he speaks in front of the team, it's like he's going to whatever is on that paper for him to talk about. He's not going to hold back from it. Whether somebody is late or somebody ain't doing whatever they're supposed to do.

he's gonna let it be known and um that's the directness and that's the that's the the footballness of who he is yeah he always says the human body craves contact which i think is true yeah but maybe not like as a veteran maybe you get back to training camp and you're like i don't really miss training camp right yeah i mean for for the lack of the lack of what the lack of the meetings

But the game, the love of the game, man, I love coming out on the practice field. But talking about football all day,

And putting it in terms and all that, it's like, I can do without that part. Let me go do the fun part. Let me go play on Sundays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we had Dallas Goddard on last year, tight end for the Eagles, and he played at a small school, not like Buffalo. Buffalo plays in a real conference. They play North Dakota. I appreciate that. That was my first time hearing that. Something like that, yeah. And he told a story about how when he was playing against these guys, like he would go out and –

the DBs would be like, can you take it easy on us because you're that much bigger and stronger? Did you ever have a moment like that in the Mac where maybe not take it easy on us, but it's like the guy you're beating up the guys so bad. They're just like, this is this. I'm going to be an accountant next year. I don't want to, I don't want to play against you anymore.

Man, I had a weird moment. I wouldn't say it was to that extent. It was definitely like a moment of like, what the fuck did this dude just say? It was my University of Ohio. Or Miami, Ohio. No, it was Ohio University. Ohio University, yeah. Bobcats. Yeah, the Bobcats, yeah. And so it was maybe like a guard or a tackle. It's like, man, can we take a picture after the game? Yeah.

and i feel like it might like be like the second quarter at the time what's going on he's trying to kill your kindness yeah it's like that's weird yeah that was a weird moment but other than that i don't think i had too many yeah so it had to feel at times it's like no one can stop me oh man um that was my mindset that's been my mindset my whole career man um

be a grown man amongst boys. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Yeah. Me too. So is it still that way? Like, are there times when the game feels easy to you? Man, last year, man, it got a lot easier. Just switching my mindset, being around guys like Joey and my coach at the time, Giff Smith.

Just learning new things, learning new nuances and things to put into my game. It simplified it that much more. And that's where I feel like...

You can always get better. Either you're getting better or you're getting worse. Yeah. So we might be dumb because we watch the games on a couch on Sundays, which we watch all the games at the same time, which is hard to do. You've never done that before. We do it every week. But we sit there, we watch, and then we come up with these theories. And we were watching the Chargers last year, and Brandon Staley, obviously, he liked to mix it up on fourth down on offense a lot. And at times we were like,

I don't know that I would like playing defense, even though he's a defensive coach. I don't know that I'd like playing defense in that system because you never know when you're going to get back out on the field. Like, you don't get that much time to rest. Was that a conversation that you guys had with the coach, which is like, let us take a break sometimes? That's where the crazy and the delusion come in because it was like, man, I'm riding with you, coach. Whatever you decide, you know what I'm saying? I know the offense is going to convert on fourth down.

And if they don't, it's another chance for us to go out there and kick their ass.

That's always been my mindset. Whether they turn the ball over or back, there's another opportunity to go out there and kick their ass. Yeah. And so that's where the delusion turns on when you're on the field. That's where we're wired different. Yeah. Future Hall of Fame NFL players where we watch and we're like, dude, we just want to rest. And if you're going to make me go out there, don't send me back out on the 35 yard line. I'm going to give up a touchdown. Yeah. Like, make them have to work for it. Like, let some clock tick away here, Coach. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man.

Just let us chill for a minute. That's funny, man. Chilling seems fun. Well, Khalil, this has been awesome. I have one last question. It's a Chevy.com question. Go to Chevy right now. Chevy Silverado, best truck ever. You're not much on social media, right? No, I'm not. So do you ever see any crazy fans on social media for you, or does it ever weird you out? No.

Weird in what sense? I searched. I was trying to find the weirdest tweets, and I have a couple. You can tell me if this is weird. Someone tweeted, I fucking love you, Khalil Mack. Khalil Mack is my whole life. I'd die for Khalil Mack. For the record, I don't want to die, but if Khalil Mack was like, hey, you have to die so that I can live, I'd do it.

Like, that stuff's weird, right? Yeah, those are all my tweets. Yeah.

I mean, I love you. I don't know what to say. My guy, Cat. I literally, if you had said, in that 2018 season, if you were like, no, yeah, in 2018, if you were like, hey, Big Cat, you got to die so I can live, I'd be like, bullet in my head, no problem. Got you. I appreciate it, bro. I appreciate the support, but that's fucking weird. It's ride or die. The one that says Khalil Mack is my whole life, that one is a little uncomfortable. I'll admit that. Hand up.

I got a few more things going on than just you. I believe it, bro. I believe it. So do I, man. Damn, cat. That's funny, man. For the record, if somebody ever, God forbid, if you ever find yourself in a life or death situation, just tell them, hey, go kill Big K. Yeah, right. I'll take it. I'll take it.

Even though you're not on the Bears anymore, I'll still take it. No, man. It's all love, man. I appreciate it. I definitely appreciate you guys having me on. Yes. Yes. This has been awesome. Definitely been a cool experience. Yeah. We're excited for this season to see what the Chargers do. And, yeah, when you get into the Hall of Fame, I'll have to come to Canton. Maybe I'll introduce you. Maybe I'll actually think about this. This would be the greatest Hall of Fame speech ever. I get up, and I'm like, I'm now presenting Khalil Mack, and then, boom, shoot myself in the head. Oh, come on, bro. It's fine.

You're telling me that people wouldn't remember that? Most memorable Hall of Fame induction ever. Come on, man. I might get some blood on the gold jacket. That might not be good. Yeah, we do a little clean-up. PFD will be there to clean it up. I'll clean it up. And then I'll do the eulogy for him before you're inducted. It'll be a whole thing. It'll be great. It'll be beautiful. I do have one last question for you because I read somewhere. I don't know if this is true or not. I read that one of your favorite bands in the entire world is Hanson.

Fuck no. People are just like, I bet you're online. So it's not Hanson. No. Why not?

You say, why not? Yeah. I don't even know a hand. Is that the Mbop? Oh, sounds like you know it. That might be the only song. Yeah. They got more songs? No, it's just Mbop. When was the last time you listened to that song? It was like Old Town Road. It's been a minute. Okay. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. Might need a refresh. I listen to it on purpose or just listen to it? Listen to it on purpose. No, I don't think I listen to it on purpose. But you taught yourself guitar, right? Yeah, I tried, man, until my finger got stuck in somebody's helmet and...

Yeah. That sucks. Yeah, that thing is gnarly. Damn, you want my finger? I'll give you mine. You sound like Joey. Dude, let me see your finger real quick. Yeah. That would actually be good for guitar. Really? Yeah. Hell no, it's not. I can't bar anything, bro.

Well, John Mayer played an entire concert without his index finger. That's John Mayer, bro. That's a tough motherfucker. That's a tough motherfucker. That's grit. That's grit. That's grit right there. Grit for dead. All right. Well, Khalil, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. Huge fan. No doubt, man. Thank you, man. Appreciate you guys' time. Khalil Mack was brought to you by Chevy. There's a reason why we've never done a Mount Rushmore of pickup trucks. That's because for part of my take, there's only one pickup truck. That is the Chevy Silverado Silverado.

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And now, here is Los Angeles Chargers strength and conditioning coach, Ben Herbert. And now for something completely different.

Okay, we welcome on a very, very special guest. It is our Grit Week presented by Coors Light. It is Executive Director of Player Performance for the Los Angeles Chargers, Coach Ben Herbert. Coach Herbs, can we call you Coach Herbs? Please do. 99.99% of people, it's Herb or Coach Herb. Okay, so we got to start Grit Week off with the first question. It's an easy question. How would you define grit?

Your ability and willingness to do any and all things regardless of circumstance. That's a great answer. Okay. I like that. Yeah. Yeah, I love that word. And most importantly, what it represents to me. It's pretty clear. Yeah. That's how I see it. Yeah. That's good. That's concise. That's to the point. Makes sense. How do you instill grit in somebody or something that you have? You know what? I think...

Certain people in their upbringing and their exposures in life, they get exposed to some things that require more of it and nurture the development of it. But I definitely believe it is something that can be developed through exposure. And the best thing is it doesn't have to be like a

Like, I just think daily exposure in small doses, some days in, you know, bigger doses, but just that repeated exposure, you know, and as someone's development of it, you know, starts to blossom. And then for me, you just re-encourage when you see it and you see guys display it or you see a group display it. And I love to just reinforce like, that's what it looks like. That's grit. That's what it feels like. Please show me more of that. Wow. Are those the words you use? I love that.

Along those lines. So I got to say, I was doing a little research for this interview, and I watched a clip of Coach Harbaugh talking about the first time he met you and how he had to avert his gaze because you locked in and saw through his soul. So I was prepped for the handshake. But even prepping myself for the handshake, you gave me a look through my soul, and I had to look away. So what is that? You just can look through someone's soul?

No, I'm doing it right now. I don't know what you're doing. You're doing it right now. The key for me, eye contact is powerful. You know, I have two boys are 10 and 13. As soon as they could really comprehend, you know, shaking a, uh, another man's hand or shaking anyone's hand for that matter. And in the eye contact, there's just something about the eyes. And when you're not accustomed to looking into someone's eyes, when you communicate with them, it's very uncomfortable. Yeah. However,

you can learn and you can develop that as well. And, you know, I always tell guys, I'm not interested in like trying to be this tough guy, like stare at you or, you know, but I, I contact, I'm not interested in running away with my eyes. I can't move physically. Like I tell people you can't move physically, but you'll go somewhere else with your eyes. I prefer to just stay staring at each other right now. And then periodically you can look away if need be, you know, but yeah, it's just,

eye contact is just, there's something about it. I'm not, and I literally see it as I'm not interested in, I like to be right here and stay there. Locked in. And coach Harbaugh also called you his X factor. And you know, you, you started, we were talking beforehand, you're a Badger. You went to Wisconsin. Where's that? Wisconsin, Arkansas, and then Michigan. What like your career and learning all these things being around football so much, what

Like, do you think that you're an X factor now? Are you feeling like, hey, I know how to do this better than anyone else at this point? No, that's the last thing that I think. Okay. It's an incredible honor for Coach to view me the way that he does. But what I do know and what I've learned over time is, you know, what I do –

Like this moment, I'm right here right now. And then I'll move on to the next moment. What I've done in the past, what I'm, I don't just think, or even, I don't let myself, what the future holds is irrelevant to me right here, right now. Right. I'm going to, I'm going to do this to the best of my ability with you guys. Right.

and then move on to the next thing. I don't get caught up in you're the difference or you're the reason for greatness. A team was great or you're the reason that they were terrible or I've experienced all of those scenarios. I like humble and hungry. Coach hires me to do what I do, and it's my responsibility to really just keep up with him. He's the tone setter. He's the tip of the spear.

It's easy to respect a guy that conducts his business the way he does. And that inspires me to just be sharp every day. Yeah. I knew you were the real deal when I was looking into, like, Big Cat, you know, do some research before we sat down. I looked at your social media, and it still lists you as the strength and conditioning coach of the University of Michigan. And from that moment, I was like, that's a guy that's locked in on his job. That's like, I don't care about social media. Forget that nonsense.

I'm right here right now. I don't think that you've tweeted since like 2017. But again, that's the kind of guy that I want strengthening and conditioning my players. Have you thought about changing it? No. Yeah. I haven't. To be honest, you know, I got in – when I went from Wisconsin, you know, we went back to back to back Big Ten championships. We went to Arkansas. And so you get accustomed to –

A lot of people saying a lot of positive things about, we're big, strong, physical, all these different things. And then we went three and nine that first year. And we were not labeled that. And I got encouraged to get involved with social media and engage and do these different things. And then it just took me on a roller coaster emotionally.

that I was like, you know what? I prefer to not be on this emotional roller coaster. So then I just disengaged. And now I, you know, people are like, Coach, you like you live under a rock kind of you. I have very little awareness of other things other than what people put in front of me. I just kind of stay in my own world. You know, here you find me in the room.

You find me at my current address. That's about the extent of it. Yeah, I mean, I was listening to a podcast that you did with the guys here, and they asked what you do in your spare time for fun, and your initial answer was clean.

You clean stuff. Yeah, so there's something about people that get it. There's people out there that they just enjoy doing that. I love taking something from, you know, if it's disorganized or messy. If it's mine, I'm not interested in doing it for you guys. Right. But if it's mine, I just –

I enjoy, I couldn't tell you why. I cried from it since accomplishment. All of those things. And so I find myself when I, you know, it's just a peaceful place for me, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And you, I also heard that. So this new facility is incredible. Yeah. Are you worried at all that it's too nice for what you want to do? No, what's funny is like, you look like if you go over, we got some plates and you'll find some rust. You'll find a little rust. Okay, good. You'll find a little rust here and there, but yeah, whether it's a,

this or you know you could put us in a back alley somewhere like we're going to conduct our business the same way you know we're going to train we're going to do things how we do them yeah the environment yeah it's just a beautiful environment we take a lot of pride in that but no to work how we work the way we work the consistency we work with is that's going to take place regardless of where we are yeah because i heard you fell in love with a shop vac

that you went to the store, got a shop vac, and now you just want to shop vac everything. Which I understand. Shop vac's cool. It's the most versatile tool out there. Every time a guy that's been on my staff, they become a homeowner, that's my favorite gift to give is a shop vac. I had a similar experience with a power washer.

You get a power wash, and then all of a sudden you want to power wash everything. It's so satisfying. But yeah, like you said, there's a small feeling of accomplishment. You feel like you've done something. Yeah. And I'm ready to move. The shop vac is gritty. It is. Because you don't have to... I mean...

Pretty much anything. You know, you can suck up with a shop vac. You could say I love the versatility and I love the grit factor of the shop vac. The shop vac, yeah. So coming to the NFL, how does your job change when you've spent all this time in college? You're taking 17-year-old kids, building them into men. Now you've got a bunch of men. Is it like have you noticed that, hey, I've got to approach this differently or is it this is my system and we'll figure it out going forward? Yeah.

Yeah, the biggest thing is it's a lot more similar than it is different. There are some nuances that are different. The maturity of the population you work with is obviously different. But the desire, guys coming into college as freshmen, guys who are in college, you know, a high percentage of them, you know, they're hell-bent on getting better and improving. Yeah.

Same here. Regardless, at least this roster, the guys that we have, regardless of how much money they make or not, where they fall in that category, they want to get better. And if you can help them do that, that's very important to them. They're very responsive to that. And the process, the system, the way we do things, our evaluation process, making sure. And I've told guys, this isn't come in, let's get a workout.

Like we're going to train. It's very different. And so training is very intentional, what we're going to do, why we're going to do it. And being able to build that rapport and that relationship with these guys is of the utmost importance because they've been doing it. They have a lot of them have different experiences, you know, doing different things. But if you relate and communicate to them in what I view as the appropriate way,

They've been they've been great. Yeah. Yeah. So as somebody that's in charge of building strength, when you go into every offseason, I assume that you tweak things, right? You always try to get better. You try to improve. How do you determine like what's going to change year over year in a strength program when maybe you've been there for a while? Maybe you know what works. Like, how do you figure out, OK, this is a missing piece that we need to add on and incorporate next season?

You know what the unique thing is? Every year you don't know necessarily until these opportunities present themselves what is going to be needed, right? Because each year there's different individuals that make up the team. The mentality and the makeup of the team, the culture, so to speak, the personality that the group has, it changes. And so if you're going to say, how are we going to improve the capability of the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder?

There's a specific cuff sequence that we do. It's what we do. Where there's the most versatility is things that involve consistency, things that involve mentality, because there's certain things that certain individuals need and certain teams need that other teams didn't. Yeah. Right? And then it's always figuring out, you know, what range of motion and tissue and joint.

you know, flexibility, mobility, strength and power, movement traits, that stuff's relatively easy. It's the things, those are all objective. We measure, we test, we measure, we test, right? The guys all have that data, but it's these other factors that play a significant role. The mentality, we talk about grit, consistency, all of these things play a significant role

And those are the things that change because when you have a group or a team that has that, you don't need as much of it, right? Things to help with that. And you have some teams that don't have that. Hey, coach, what do we got today? Stop asking me that. Why do you care what we have, right? It doesn't matter what we have. The only thing that matters is how you're going to do

Right. You know, so these type of, that's what one big cue, they start asking like, what's the schedule? What are we doing? They want to know. Oh, so you can prepare yourself for what's to come. Right. And then I'll tell them the, I'll just make up, uh,

just some random sequence that they oh okay cool sounds good and then it's not that in fact it's the exact opposite right yeah and then they you you can completely desensitize them right and that's one of my that's one of the because that is a very natural thing when you're like i'm about to do something that sucks i want to know how bad it's going to suck and then you can prepare yourself like all right i got to go hard here i got to go a little softer here got to go

That's smart that you keep them on their toes. You, in your introductory press conference here, I loved it. You said that we're not building strength. We're making them harder to break. How do you make someone harder to break? Could you make us harder to break? 100%. Yes. Guaranteed. Because we break easy. No, this is the key. And here's an exact way when the guys, when we talk through it, okay? So, and I referenced in my opening press conference, neck training.

So in my opinion, when your neck is stronger in flexion, when you press forward or an extension, when you press back and we side bend as well, when your neck is stronger and you strike something or get struck, in my opinion, you're going to be able to dissipate that force more effectively, which is going to decrease the likelihood of the brain coming in contact with the skull. Now, can it and does it still happen? Yes, it does. But if I have the choice,

Oh, I'm going to go to great lengths to make sure we are as effective as we can be at getting your neck strong in flexion and extension. Same thing with the four rotator cuff muscles in the shoulder. If you want a strong, stable shoulder, would you prefer all four were strong, three of the four, two, one, or none of them? So right away, okay, Coach Herb, how are you going to make us harder to break?

I'll take you in. I'll literally show you a neck sequence, teach it to you, let you feel it, take you through a four-part cuff sequence. You guys could do those things easily, and you could do them multiple times a week, and then you could be in multiple different situations where that could benefit you, right? And for the guys, things happen. But when we look at what we're going to program and what we're going to administer to them, that's how I view training.

making them and helping them become harder to break is making sure that certain areas of the body just are more equipped to tolerate stress better. We need you to make a harder to break for podcasters. So it's stuff like, can you eat, you know, 10 buffalo wings and then have a Dairy Queen blizzard?

will your legs fall asleep when you're taking a shit? Like that, that we need that type. Forget the neck. Yeah. We just need like, how loud can you scream at your mom when she comes down to the basement? Not now. I'm recording. Can you, can you watch football on six TVs at the same time? Yeah. Are we harder to break?

That's what we need. You need a program for that. You guys are out. You're outside of my world. Yeah. I think you're on the right to see you in our world for what you would hate. You would hate it. Oh my God. You would hate it. So you got a good point about, about the neck though. I feel like woodpeckers, what do they do all day? They slam their head against a tree. They got strong necks. They don't get CTE. They don't get concussions. Yeah. They got to stabilize the muscles right there. How long would a, would a neck sequence for guys like us? How long would that take?

To take you through a, we call it a four-part neck sequence, four-way neck sequence. I mean, it'd probably take me two minutes, two and a half minutes to take you through it. To find out how weak we are? Well, I would know as soon as I put my hands. All right, we're going to do that after this. Yes, yes. But I would know. And then the key is, I'm only interested. I'm not going to give you more than you can handle. There's no benefit to give you too much pressure. No good. Too little. No good. I'm going to get full range.

And you're going to work, right? I'm going to let you get the range that you need to get, but I'm going to make you earn it. And at the end, you'll go, I 100% guarantee you'll go, oh, that's what he's talking about. Yeah, yeah. You'll love it. Okay, we're going to do that after this. Yeah. So the other thing, I love how you refer to it as cold water, but you love the ice bath. How long do you stay in? I just got asked this not too long ago, 10 to 15 minutes. And what temperature?

I don't care it could be 39 47 52. you know cold water yeah whatever it is like hey hey uh how cold is this uh it's no that's too cold or too I'm gonna get in it I'm gonna sit in there you know up to my neck for 10 to 15 minutes and the first four to five I'm in there

Just – say the three of us are in there and I'd say, hey, just get to the six, seven-minute mark and everything starts to numb out and then you got another, you know, however long we decide to stay in there. But then it's, you know, you're thawed out – or excuse me, you're numb. So –

Yeah. And then I always say, then get out, put a hoodie and some sweats on, let your body just thaw out naturally and then shower after. I think you would have survived the Titanic. That's a very long amount of time. Like just to sit in there six minutes until you get numb and then you won't feel it anymore.

I got to try the cold tub situation, but I heard it increases a bunch of stuff in your body. It increases like all the good stuff, all the good brain. I don't even know what they call them, but it gives you like the serotonin, the dopamine or whatever. But you do it, I'm guessing, primarily for like inflammation stuff. Yeah. And I said, you know, when I got asked about it last time, just joints makes my joints feel incredible. Yeah. And then if you ever want, I was talking to one of the players about it the other day.

If you want to, and you guys may already know this, if you've ever just jumped in cold water, like sitting in it, get in, just sit in it for, you know, just a few seconds and then get out. That's one thing you want to wake up. And it's all based on the sensory receptors, the amount of sensory receptors you have in your head. When you get in, you drop under, you come out, you it's instant. You want an instant wake up? Yeah. Yeah. Are you allowed to eat in the cold tub?

you can eat drink any okay yeah just get in and relax it's cold water yeah yeah do it have a nice like soup dinner hot soup in the cold tub yeah for me from the inside out one of my favorite pictures ever uh and I texted him after I saw it JJ and TJ are are they had cut a hole you know and they're sitting in their pond yeah yeah in the ice like

You know, just hanging out. Dude, first thing in the morning instead of a shower, just cold? Just cold water wakes you right up? Cold. I don't prefer it first thing in the morning. But if you – yeah, you get in – if you took a – you could even start hot and then just the last, say, 60 seconds or 20 seconds before you get out, turn that thing to cold and you'll – oh, it'll bring you to life real quick. What time are you waking up these days? It depends on the day.

I love, this is another thing. They said, what do you love to do? I love to sleep. I don't know if you've ever met someone that enjoys sleeping more than I do. However, for 25 years, I usually will get up between three and five. That's insane. That's crazy. What time do you go to sleep?

Usually 8.30, 9, 9.30. Now, some nights, you know, if we're, you know, we're going to hang out, you know, with my wife and boys a little bit. Clean some stuff. Get the shop back out. Go crazy. But I've never, I've never enjoyed...

waking up early i love to sleep and when i get down time i'll sleep as long as i can yeah but but i'm you know it's once i get rolling then it's good but i wake up when the day you know based on what the daily demands are yeah so if you wake up at three in the morning and you don't like to wake up early that's like you're instilling grit every single day a hundred percent and i say you know how there's people that uh

put their feet on the ground in the morning and they're like, I'm ready to have a great day today. Yeah, that's not me. Yeah. Yeah. I wake up and it's like, ah, how much coffee? No coffee. First thing I do is get in the shower cold, hot to start. And then I'll usually finish, not always, but I'll finish with a, you know, 10 to 15 second little cold burst. Yeah. Wake you up. Yeah. Yeah. What do you do between the hours of like three 30 and six or six 30 when, when everyone else gets to work? Well, so,

It depends on what the day brings, you know, what time if we have a staff meeting or what time we're going to train. Usually because of classes in college, there is you have early morning training session or multiple because of the class demands. Here it's different, but whatever, you know, whatever it may be that needs to be done,

that's what we're doing. Yeah. So when you're watching your team out there, do you get extra pride out of like watching them run the football? Like I'm thinking even Michigan versus Penn state this year, incredible. There's no pass in the second half. Is that like, is that just the pinnacle for you watching them just absolutely beat down another team physically? There's, there's no better feeling. It's,

It's incredible. And I would prefer like those type of scenarios. It's incredible. And I learned it at Wisconsin. You know, when I got there as a player and what we took pride in doing and then it really became instilled in me to run and pound a rock.

Yeah, it's amazing. Take the will of the other team. Yeah. Yeah. And to do it like we did it this year, especially that Penn State game. Yeah. It was no better feeling. Yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a match made in heaven with Harbaugh because he has famous times. I think there was a Stanford. Was it Stanford versus Oklahoma State in a bowl game? And he ran the same run play like 13 times in a row down the field. It's just like you can't stop it. That has to be the best. That's like the peak of just like man football. Yeah. Yeah.

As I see it. I love it. Yeah. It's great. And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Has that ever happened against a team that you've been associated with? Where it was happening to me? To you, yeah. Yes. Yeah, Wisconsin versus Michigan in 2019 maybe in Camp Randall. That was a big one. Yes. Yeah. We ran the ball down your throat. That did not feel good. Yeah. That did not feel good. Yeah. Those – what I take from those –

It makes you feel certain. What it, what it does is it inspires you to, yeah, to get back to work. Uh, you know, and that's why I say humble. It's, uh, I've been on both sides of it and I prefer, fortunately I've been on the other, on the good side a lot more than the bad side, but I know how both sides feel. Yeah. Yeah. I noticed that one of your favorite pieces of workout equipment is just big tires. You buy a lot of big tires, right?

What is it about tires? Like tire flipping, tire pulling? What is it about tires that make them such a great piece of workout equipment? So it used to be the tire. And I had the most insane collection of tires. We named them. We had the most insane collection of tires. I mean, 15 different sizes and shapes. Now we have finisher flip sleds.

The beauty of the finisher flip sled is the position that it puts the guys, their lower back in, and you don't have to grab it here. You can grab it in this way, and it stresses the bicep differently. So posturally, it puts them in a better position. But your ability to get triple extension and to develop strength and power, that is my new... Yeah. I don't even... It's similar to a tire flip, but it's... I wouldn't even...

disrespect the flip sled by saying it's that it's it's its own beast and it's one of if not my favorite tools that thing is insane that's another thing you guys i'll teach you how to use the flip sled yeah incredible tool yeah so how would you go about naming your tires kind of glossed over that yeah you know what uh just my staff we would just look at the tire and that looks like and we would just throw names out there and then you know what i mean bat around no and we yeah we literally uh

we would just go down the line and really just banter back and forth about what we thought would be the best name. Just dude's name in tires. Yeah. What's it look like? And then that's, that's where we would go with. What about, what about having the plates, everything perfect? What's that about? Where you said that in your introductory press conference, every plate is going to be exactly where it needs to be. Nothing just like laying around. Is that just a mentality of you got to take care of your surroundings? It's just how, uh,

It's that. It's also just how we practice attention to detail. And it often sometimes people don't it's not going to directly correlate and guarantee you're going to be successful. But what it is an effective tool to me is practicing your attention to detail. You want your footwork to be a certain way. You want when you strike something right. All these things in your in your game.

You know, you're, you're, there's so many different details that matter. That's just how we practice attention to detail. I, I just little, little cues that I'll use one. I take tremendous pride in the space. Yeah.

And I, you know, I like things neat and clean. So that just is what it is. But in terms of when you watch how we train, when I teach you guys, when we do the neck or I teach you posturally, I don't want to, I'm not going to put your lower back in a bad position or allow you to do it in a way that's going to hurt you. Right. Right. So these details and how you execute all of these things are paramount because if technically you're

If you're not sound technically, in my opinion, then you increase the likelihood of injury in a training environment. So it's just the detail. And then how do we practice it? And that goes hand-in-hand with just the respect we have for the space, too. Do the little things right. The big things take care of themselves, that sort of thing. Along those lines. You've coached a lot of really strong players, and they've become strong as you've coached them. Who's the strongest guy you've ever worked with?

The key is strongest in what? Because, so if you said Turkish get-up, if you guys know what a Turkish get-up is, okay. And I describe that to the guys as it's a movement that challenges and stimulates the body from the tip of the finger when your arms extend it from the tip of your finger to the tip of your toes. It's holding a bar and being down. It could be a dumbbell. It could be a bar. And standing up with it over your head, right? Standing up with it and then coming down with it as well. Chris Jenkins –

D-tackle at Michigan did it with a 170-pound dumbbell. And it was silky smooth. I mean, it was incredible. You can see when a guy's out of control and you can see when he's rock solid. Aiden Hutchinson did it with – he had a bar and he had 45-pound plates on each side with no collar because if the wrist – doing it with a two-and-a-half on each side is one thing. Okay, if the plate slides off, if it's not perfectly stable, if the plate slides off,

Big deal. They can still stabilize it. If a 45-pound plate slides off one end, the other side, it's going the wrong way quickly. So the demand, I don't like things that are high reward and high risk. My favorite things are things that are high reward, low to no risk. However, there's a sliding scale with every movement I choose for the guys.

But when Hutch was getting ready to do that, he literally started with a bar, then a bar and two and a half on each side, fives, and he worked his way up. I knew that if I captured that, you know, it would just give him – it's another feather in his cap of what a freak show he was and what a freak show he is. Chris Jenkins, that. You know, Mozzie Smith, he took 325. I mean, he hit it for 20 reps.

He went up the plyo stairs. We had Kenneth Grant, 360-pound, the D-tackler that ran down that back from Penn State. He went up the – we had the plyo stairs at Michigan. He went up at 360 pounds. He went up those in like 279, 2.79 seconds. Lower body, Travis Frederick played center for us at Wisconsin. Incredible.

And you could go on down the line, you know, the things that you see guys do over the years. Yeah. But those are some of them. Yeah. Did you – a couple Wisconsin questions. One, the TCU Rose Bowl game, was there any talk afterwards we should have run John Claymore? That one hurt. Yeah, that one hurt. That one hurt. That one hurt. I was sitting right in the sideline where the two-point conversion failed. Yeah. That was bad. John Clay was a beast in that second half. Yeah. Yeah.

Beast. You know what? I can't remember what the postgame conversations were or weren't, but when we gave him the ball, it usually worked out well for us. Just truck people. Then Russ did spike the ball in time, you'd agree, against Oregon. Yeah.

in my opinion. Yes, okay. And then was there any talk when you left Wisconsin for Arkansas, was there any conversation about like we're running out of Watt brothers and there's no more coming? We got to get out of here before we run out. You know what? I had JJ. I had Derek. And, you know, over the years, you know, I see TJ here and there. I unfortunately never got to coach him. But, yeah, then he came after I had left.

and then yeah you wish there was uh just keep going you thought for a while there's like every year there's gonna be another one brother we're good no doubt yeah talk to mom and dad like hey maybe get back in the bedroom think about the future of the football team we just need all their kids to go to wisconsin that's all i care about would be amazing sign them up i got a real scientific question for you what is the best lifting music oh oh see now this is where uh

When it comes to music, I usually it's the vibe of of the guys. Fortunately for me, we could put there's I mean, you could put anything on there. I love old school like you throw the Rocky four soundtrack on. And, you know, that's a that's a that's a go to. But it can be Metallica. It can be heavy metal. It can be any type of hip hop.

whatever whatever the guys are feeling and they're going to vibe to that's that's what it is some days and it's all over the map fortunately i love i love it all and i've heard it all 25 years spent in a weight room i've you know heard everything and i fortunately enjoy everything yeah you have a raw dog in the gym you go in there no music no headphones there's days no music and i'm just looking for someone to be like hey coach our worst of music and i go

Yo, you need the music or, or we'll play, we played Barney and there's some guys are so focused on like the music. They stopped worrying about the music and worry about, you know, those, those are some of the, yeah, we'll use some of those, uh, some of those tools too, from a mentality standpoint, there's no music and waiting for the first guy to ask you where the music, some days we'll take a horn and it just, man,

And just repeatedly. And they're so like, hey, you know, just stop. Stop focusing on, get them to focus on the wrong thing. And they do become desensitized, I promise you. Here's what you're working with when you're talking to us in terms of grit level. There have been times I've gone to the gym, realized I forgot my headphones, and then I'm like, well, I can't work out today.

And then I just leave. Yeah. You'd be disgusted by us. Yeah. Yeah, you would be disgusted. We have grit in certain facets, you know, doing our job. But in terms of, like, working out, we don't have a lot of grit. So we need that. And it's not all created equal. I mean, to do your job is the most important. So whatever you have to do, right, to get yourself where you need to be. Yeah. I'm not...

Like I'm in a working environment. My level of urgency is very high. However, when I leave, I tell the guys when I leave, I'm one of the most chill laid back. You know what I mean? Just because what do I need urgency for when we're, you know, just hanging out? Yeah. It's just you have to time it appropriately. And like you said, when we're working, we have it, which that's when you need it. Yeah. Yeah. When you're not working, you know, there's you can be selective in a workout. You don't have your headphones. You don't feel like training.

Okay, that's a lot different thing. You don't feel like doing a show. You got to get your mind right. You're going to get your mind right. Yeah, we don't miss shows. That's a fact. I broke my foot. I did a podcast that day. Big Cat got bit by a dog. Did a podcast. Did a podcast. There you go. No problem. Right through it. That's grit. Yeah. That is grit. People were calling dog bite that day. They'd be like, can't do it. Yeah. Yeah.

rabies shots. We got that grit. Uh, all right. Well, coach herbs has been awesome. I got one last question. Uh, Chevy question, uh, chevy.com. Go check it out. Chevy Silverado, best truck out there. Uh, coach Harbaugh, who we're, we're, we love, we're good friends with. Do you train him? Does he ask you like, Hey coach herbs, I need a, I need a formula. You know, you need to give me everything. Are you, are you actively training him still?

Coach Harbaugh just walks into the room and he's ready to train. You know it. Coach, you ready to roll? He does not ever, never, what are we doing today? How much? He just goes and he attacks and he does everything that the guys, I mean, he sled drags. He flips sleds. He does it all. He reversed bear crawls like we had a ramp at Michigan. He would reverse bear crawl. All of it.

eats it up. I love that. Eats it up. I love that. And he does it all in his khakis, right? A lot of times. Whatever he walks in the weight room, whatever he shows up wearing, that's what he trains in. Yeah. It's not, hey, I got to go and change. No, he just, coach, you ready to roll? And he'll give you that nod, you know? Yep. And then he just, yeah, he's...

the grittiest yeah of the gritty yeah yeah when you first interviewed with him did you know during the interview you're like i can work with this guy this is going really well you know what when he decided that you know he he brought me into michigan to interview and then i just uh i hadn't met coach or been around them so i did a little background now you just some of the

the stories and some of the things you hear. And then some of the people that had called me, hey, you know, you're going to Michigan, coach. And then just these things you hear, I came to realize quick, like the type of mentality, you know, that he had. And that's why, I mean, it was the perfect fit. Yeah. It's worked out well. Yeah. I mean, I'm pumped just listening to you talk. I kind of want to just move out here and have you train me.

But it wouldn't go well. I'd break in a second. Actually, we might break you. Yeah. Maybe. If you spent one day with us, we would probably break your will. You'd be like, I got to get out of here. This is terrible. These guys are too easy to break. I'm broken. Yeah. They've been sitting on the couch for so long. But yeah, it was awesome to have you on. Yeah. I appreciate it, fellas. Best of luck this year. X Factor. And let's do this neck test. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right. Let's do it.

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PFT, your Fire Fest of the week. My Fire Fest of the week, it's fantasy football related. We are in a fantasy league. It's C.J. McCollum's, he calls it the High Rollers League. And Jerry O'Connell manages our team every year. But in years past, I've kind of been the one that's on the group chat with the league. And then I text Jerry on the side and I tell him what's happening. Oh, no. This year, I decided it's time to have Jerry in the mix. Oh, no.

So yesterday I had a Jerry O'Connell to the fantasy football group chat. CJ McCollum, Turtle from Entourage, Julius Randall. There's a few others that I'm not naming right now, but it was like throwing a bomb into that group chat. Yeah, I'd imagine. So I brought him in there, added his number.

First thing that happens, Jerry texts them. And I'm not going to be reading things out of the group. I'm not going to make a habit out of reading things out of the group chat. But for the intro, I think this deserves a little bit of discussion. Jerry just comes out and says, hey guys, Jerry O'Connell here. And the group chat turned green.

Oh, yeah. He's got an Android. Out of the 12 people that were in there, he was the first non-iPhone user. Oh, he ruined it. And then everybody started commenting how he turned the chat green. Oh. And they were booing him, and it was a tough start. And then Jerry says, hey, everybody, Jerry with the Android.

I came in second two years ago when DeMar went down. Prayers for DeMar and also Ukraine. And then nobody responded. And then Jerry, like two hours later, says, hey, fellas, just so you can get to know me, here's a link to my IMDB. And then he posted a link to his own IMDB in the group chat. And he said, go ahead, ask me anything.

And nobody really replied. I think Turtle said Mr. Bing Bong back to him. Okay. And then Jerry said, yeah, Mr. Bing Bong. I don't know anyone on this feed, anyone from the mainstream media on here just want to know how raw I can get. And then no one's responding to that. So I've really mixed up the, I've mixed things up. You know, Jerry, he's going to add some excitement to the fancy group chat. He's coming in hot. I expect nothing less from Jerry.

But we have to have him on to talk us through what a strategy is going to be. Last year, it didn't work out so well. Turning a group chat green is just unforgivable. Yeah. So now, obviously, I'm to blame for doing that. Yeah. Jerry, get a fucking iPhone, dude. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to the group chat. But I think you'll enjoy having Jerry in there. Give him a chance. Yeah.

Geez. Now I'm pretty sure they started a second. Oh, for sure. Just minus Jerry. Yeah. Jerry's going to be coming into Chicago last week of August. We get our full fantasy preview.

Very excited for that. I hope that this just turns into Jerry just talking to the guys and nobody ever responding to him. Yeah. Honestly, this is mental warfare on our part. Yeah. We haven't won years past. Jerry's kind of knocking them off balance right now. He's going to get them to a point where they're just going to want to do whatever trade with Jerry. Just get them off your back. It's kind of like negotiating against Marlins Man. Yeah. Marlins Man has sent me some updates recently with his schedule.

He's doing great. Well, I'll tell you. How are his cats? Let me tell you. Okay. I feel like we haven't gotten a Marlins Man cat update in a while. Okay. Let's see. All right. Last text from Marlins Man.

Well, I'm going tonight to Chicago for Sunday night baseball. I think last one with no football or hockey or basketball. That was when we were in a great week. And then he just sent me eight cities in two days. Seattle, New Newark, Albany, Saratoga Springs, Boston yesterday, Boston, New York to Milwaukee to Chicago today. So when he says Newark in there, is he just talking about the airport? I think so. And then yesterday I did not open this. It was just Instagram reel of...

Oh, I think it's just Manny's Deli in Chicago. That's cool. Yeah, I mean, I know the place. Oh, no, it's Mench's Delicatessen, so it's just a bunch of sandwiches, which...

Credit to him because usually when you open up an Instagram reel, it could just be titties. It usually is. Yeah. Especially with Jerry. With Jerry or Marlins. Yes. We should put them on a chat together and they're both Android. Yes. Yes. I like that. Wow. Also, Marlins, man, please, for the love of God, we need an update on your cats. I want to know how your giant cats are doing. Yeah. Let us know about those pussies. Okay. My Firefest. I have two. One, I hate that I'm going to say this because, well, he's probably not going to listen.

I do miss Hank every time he's out. As much as we give him shit, I do. Like, that is, it's empty right now. It's also, it comes from a place of jealousy that Hank has gotten to do so much cool stuff this summer. Well, I don't know if I'd count this as, he's ringing a bell. Yeah, but he loves that fucking lighthouse. Yeah, I just, I miss him. I miss him. So, I hope he doesn't hear this part that I genuinely miss him whenever he's out. I miss him. I think he did not bad in Mount Rushmore today, actually.

Yeah, I think he did not bad. Yeah, I think he did not bad. Yeah, it's going to be a fight. We have six left after today. And congrats to Max for clenching. Congrats on Max. You clenched. Good job, Max. You didn't clench first, right? But you clenched not last.

Yeah. And that's what's important. Donnie's making meatballs right now. He keeps telling me to come eat them. That's my fire fest. Oh, okay. That's a good fire fest. We'll wrap up soon. My other fire fest is my wife and oldest were out of town for a couple days, and so I was in charge of the two youngest. And I did okay, but I quickly realized that I have these moments where I'm like, oh, I'm an adult. I'm clean. I'm not like I used to be.

One, my house just went right back to my college apartment. There was just shit everywhere, boxes everywhere, just not opening. She came home and she was just like, did you check the mail? And I was like, ah, mail. Came in with a huge stack. And then there was one night where I was doing dinner with my two youngest and halfway through dinner I realized that

I just had them both eating off paper towels and I just not giving them plates. That works. So yeah, that was one of those moments where like, dude, what are you doing? Just get the fucking plates out. But that's how I eat. I eat over the sink. I eat over the trash. But spin zone. Some of the most memorable times in my childhood bonding with my dad were when my mom would leave town and then she'd come back. And that like those two hours before she got. Yeah. We would all spend time just like.

undoing all the damage that we did to the house before she got back and it was fun. Yeah. And we ran the same play. We ran chicken nuggets, mac and cheese. Yeah. Chicken nuggets, mac and cheese. Run it again. Yeah. It just basically was like, do it again. Do it again. Okay, Huey. Max needs these meatballs real bad. No, Donnie just gave me a plate. Oh, he did? Okay. One bite review. Are you holding the meatballs right now? Yeah, he didn't give me a fork, which is... Just use your hand. Yeah, just dive in there.

What do you think, Max? Really good meatball. Really good. Oh, that's so gross. That's a nasty sound. It sounds juicy, though. Smells great. Yeah. Okay. My Firefest. So I got a new place. It's a walking distance from work. Everything is great. Love it. So the roommates are a little interesting. Okay. And so...

The one guy, very nice, showed me around the place. I think his name's Elio? Eli. Something like that. Eli or Elio. Elio, yeah. Just call me. Big E. Yeah, he's smaller than me. Yeah, but that's funny. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, Big E. Yeah, I'll try it. Okay. And then, he's a great guy. Awesome. The other guy, didn't say a word.

When I walked by him in the kitchen, I had a little, I had to grab a Pepsi zero sugar. And I went in there when I was going to say hi to him. But then we looked at each other and he didn't say anything. So that's in your kitchen apartment. Yeah. So that scared me. And I was like, I'm not going to say anything. So then I just got my stuff and I left. Do you guys share a kitchen and a living room? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he has a cat. No. Oh.

Where'd that come from? I don't know. I thought I saw something about a cat or a dog in your apartment. There's a chick who lives upstairs. Okay. Different apartment with a dog. But what happened was that our front doors are the same. So like, Oh, it's like a hallway. Yeah. Yeah. So, so she was coming down as I was coming in. So that confused me as I, as like, you know, what's going on here.

But that's a different apartment, her and whoever. How's the dog? Did you pet the dog? I did meet the dog. Nice dog. Pet it? Yeah, very nice dog. You can't have another match. No, I petted it. It came up to me. What kind of dog? It was a pit bull. Oh, nice. What was the name of the dog? I don't know. You've got to get the name of this dog. I don't even know the girl. Because if you find out the dog's name, then you just say hi to the dog every time she and the dog walk past her. Yeah, never acknowledge her. Yeah, exactly. All right, so this other guy, you've got a roommate that you –

stood in a kitchen your kitchen together and did not say a single word it was three seconds I mean now you can never talk to him no that's what I was that was the moment that was it

You can never speak this person. He was cooking and watching a show at the time. What show? I didn't stay around. It looked like something that was more live than an actual setting. It looked like a sporting event live, but it wasn't like... It felt out of a game-y vibe. It didn't have a TV show vibe. You watched sports. No, I... Did it look like sports? It didn't look like American sports.

Got it. That's what threw me off. So I just assumed. Is this person American? No. Okay. So maybe they don't speak English.

So I heard him on the phone. And? They speak fluent English. Okay. As fluent as can be. Smart to say they get the program. But if you walk past and you don't know, like if they're watching something live, you don't talk to them, that's kind of a good move. Maybe he didn't want to be interrupted. Yeah. So I think I played it right, but I also don't know if I did. You got to wait until he wears some sort of sports merchandise, like a hat of a team or a shirt of a team, and then you strike up the conversation. Also, just to clarify, you did not play it right. No.

But playing it right from here on out means you can never speak to them. What about Eli? Eli, you can. Okay, cool. But if you miss the first moment to talk to a roommate in a kitchen, it's over.

That's fair. That's what it felt like. It's over. That moment is gone. He missed the opportunity to talk to you, though. Yeah. Think about it that way. Yeah. That's what I like to see it as. He's probably on a podcast right now saying, I think I screwed things up with my new roommate, Huey. Yeah. Could you imagine? Yeah. But I also have my own bathroom, so I don't have to interact. Oh, wow. Look at you. Fancy boy. Yeah. Eli told me I had the nicest room. Oh. He says that to everyone. Sounds like a real straight shooter. Yeah.

So, yeah, I mean, so I don't have to. I really don't have to even like try to interact. But yesterday I was doing laundry and twice were like the second I closed my door of my room. I heard a door of the other room open. Oh, that made me think, oh, he just does it. He doesn't want anything to do with you. Yeah.

It's probably for the best you don't know him. Yeah. It sounds like he's sending some pretty strong signals. Yeah. Like, hey, I'm doing my own thing over here. You don't want any part of this. That happens in work. Like, when we got bigger and bigger as a company, like, if you see someone and it's, like, the first time you see him and you don't talk to him, like, that's it. Yeah. You know? Like, it's just, that's it. Yeah. Until someone maybe formally introduces you, but you just miss that moment. Or if you see somebody. Because then you don't want to be the guy who's like, hey, do you live here?

Yeah. Like, dude, you know I live here. You saw me yesterday. You didn't say anything. If you see somebody at work and you say, hey, are you new here? And they're like, no, I've been here three months. Yeah, you can't risk that. Yeah. All right. Good show, boys. Let's do some numbers. 8. 20. 56. 74. Did you want me to say 20 today? I wanted you to say whatever you wanted to say. Can you say me one of those meatballs? Yep. 3. 99 pug. 21.

Is that 99? Yep. Holy shit. God damn it, Pug. He's the champion. The guy just does it. That's all he does. That's five. That's five? Oh, my God, Pug. Max, have you thought about maybe stealing Pug's number?

Pug did offer it up last night. Oh, you offered it to Max several times. Oh, no, Max. That should be offered to PFT since he's never gotten the number. No, you've never gotten the lottery. He's never gotten the number. I've gotten the number. PFT hasn't gotten anything. We're talking about the lottery ball. I can't hear you. We're talking about the lottery ball. Pug has my headphones. Pug, you offered that to him last night and he declined? It's been offered several times. Oh, no. I'll tell you what. If Pug had offered to be 99. Offer it to PFT. I don't want it. Offer it to him.

PFT, would you like 99, Pug? You're goddamn right I would. Yes. You're fucking right. I want 99. Pug's just going to win with another number. Yeah, he will. Pug, do you want 20? I might just switch to 98. Okay. Just go down the line. Work my way down. Yeah, you're goddamn right I want 99. 99's hot. Hell yes. Actually, Pug might just be hot. Let's do one more. Three. This counts. 99, Pug. 56. 72.

98. Pug. 21. He's going to get it again. Seven. Damn. Imagine if that was eight. That would have been brutal. Oh, God. All right. Love you guys.