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And it's still beating because we had such an electric first round of the NBA draft. Oh my God. It was thrilling for everybody, I think. I actually had second round grades on everybody selected in this draft. The entire first round and the second round included. Yeah, I mean, the most notable things that have happened so far in the draft, we're actually recording this right before we think...

Bronny's going to get drafted by the Lakers. Apparently, Rich Paul's been calling everyone saying that if he doesn't get drafted by the Lakers or the Suns, he's going to Australia. Get ready to put another strip on the Barbie. Yeah, get ready to learn Australian, buddy.

So we're waiting for that. Oh, Cam Spencer just got not drafted? Drafted. Cam Spencer just got drafted by the Celtics. Wait, I thought... Oh, yeah, Cam Spencer can't come back. Celtics are up. The draft...

The biggest note I had was Alex Saar, the second pick, your Washington Wizards. Baby Wimby. Does look like Caitlin Clark. That's fine. Did you see that viral tweet? I did see it. And it's like the Troy Aikman Jay-Z. She's a winner. Yeah. Well, kind of. Never won a big one. I mean, I would be ecstatic if the Wizards lost like three NBA championships in a row. Yeah. That would give me so much fun stuff to root for. True. Hang on to that.

What if the Celtics did the funniest thing ever and drafted Bronny? I would love it. It'd be amazing. All right, well, we'll find out in a second. Yeah, this was the least notable NBA draft. I'm hoping this draft, we go back to it and we're like, it was so loaded, everyone got it wrong. That's what I'm rooting for. Maybe there's some people in the second round that are going to be great. I got two things I'm a little bit pissed off about. Permission to go there? Yeah.

Do your fucking trades like a normal league. Correct. Do your trades normally. Don't announce them. Don't announce them normally. Don't do them normally. Don't announce them. Announce them normally. What the hell is going on? Via, via, via. No, just put a different logo on there. I'm dumb. I can't understand. I see the first team and then I'm like, oh, their logo is everywhere. That must be who this player is getting picked by.

Do it normally. And then he announced it way after. Yeah, just tell me what happens. We know what happens. Yeah. Every other league has this figured out. Why does the NBA... What is it that's different about basketball? I don't know. That makes them do it all fucked up. Very bizarre. I hate it. Figure it out. Number two, the other team should draft Bronny take and hold them hostage for LeBron James to come rescue him. I think we talked about that like three weeks ago when we did our big draft preview. Huge draft preview.

but now everyone's giving credit to Bill Simmons for it. Yeah. Oh, well. Oh, it happens. It happens. It happens in the podcasting game. Yeah, Bronny, this has been the whole broadcast, by the way, is just Bronny. That's why they went two days. They did not need to go two days. I don't know why. Here's another one. NBA, I like it. I love basketball. I love the NBA. You're not the NFL. You don't get two days, okay?

The first round was already a bunch of French guys and people that we didn't watch play basketball last year. And now you're going to make us do two days of this? That's another thing. Too many French. Way too many French. The takeover is happening. Dr. Naismith is rolling over in his peach basket. Yeah. I did...

The Bulls drafted Matas Bouzelis, and I did actually see him up close and personal because he worked out at Barstool Chicago, and I had a first 1-1 grade on him. Oh, did you? Yep. That's tremendous value then. Yep. I saw him. He made some shots. No one was guarding him. How's he going to pair with- That guy is awesome. How's he going to pair with Josh Giddey? Fine. Good. Get along.

He's French? No, he's from Hinsdale. Hinsdale. Hinsdale. And he's got... Is Highland Park just like the biggest town in Chicago? No, it's just... That's where we just played golf. I think a lot of people are from Highland Park. Matas, what were you going to say? I was going to call out Hank for laying down on the couch. I'm trying to watch. He's trying to watch. He's trying to watch. Well, that's why I turned it off and you were like...

But you asked what I was going to say. That's what I was going to say. Hank, you got Baylor Shireman. He's another guy you can mistake for Kristaps Przingis. He's a lefty. I love what I saw from Baylor. Excited to have him on. Lefties are the best. Shoot the rock. I based my entire draft profile on what was that guy's name from Duke line? Christian Laettner. No. Jared McCain. No. Drafted by the Pistons. Not Singler.

This hurts. Our NBA street cred. What the fuck was his name? He was a lefty. I think he's still in the NBA. He was a lefty, and he dribbled behind his back. Lefty. Kennard. Yeah, Luke Kennard. There he is. Who does he play for now? Clippers? Sounds like he'd be duck. Luke Kennard. What does he play for? Memphis. No. No.

All right, Hank, you have selected Anton Watson from Gonzaga. Hell yeah. Anton Watson. Quick thoughts. Anton. What? He's from Gonzaga. He's from Gonzaga. Anton. When I hear Anton. You think Gonzaga. I think Anton Walker. Anton Watson is from Idaho. Nice. That's close.

It's like the France of the United States. Probably about the same size. They both love potatoes. Oh, this is a fun fact about Anton Watson. He went to Gonzaga Prep School in Spokane, Washington, and then went to Gonzaga. That's fun. That's pretty cool. He's only played for Gonzaga. Uh...

Yeah, this draft is pretty unremarkable. Yeah, Max, how do you how we feel about your fingernail bros? Hold on. Meme just said that. Breaking news. Breaking news. Breaking news. JJ Redick looks weird in the Lakers hat. I'll say that right now. Breaking news. Memes.

What's the breaking news? My brain is over. I almost said the Los Angeles Lakers are selecting Bronny James with the number 55 pick in the 2024 NBA draft, sources say. LeBron and Bronny James to become the first ever father-son duo to be in the NBA at the same time. Of all the shocking things I've seen in my life, this has got to be number one. Wait, isn't he? Nepotism strikes again. Isn't he going to go to Australia? He said if any team drafted him. He's going to Australia.

Shams keeps getting his account locked. All right. I'm looking forward to Bronny on the Lakers. This is going to be good for the storylines. Yeah. How did he fall this way? How did he fall that far? That's crazy. Are they going to live together? Like I said, what? Oh, no. We actually said it in the Jimmy Chetro interview. I can't say it again. I'd be ripping off my own line. All right. Congrats to the Lakers. Congrats to Bronny.

Congrats to Bronny. Well deserved. I'm going to say that. I'm going to be really nice, humble. You know what stinks, though, for Bronny? Going on your first road trips with an NBA team. You're a baller. Maybe you got a contract, a few dollars in your pocket, and then your dad is hanging out with you. Yeah. But your dad, I mean, he'll show them. It'll be cool. They'll have fun together. So doesn't JJ look weird in the Lakers hat? He looks weird in a hat. Yeah. We need to get Will Compton's thoughts on that.

Sounds like you're being a hater. Do you hate JJ? All right, so Bronny to the Lakers, official. No one could have seen that coming. Max, fingernails.

I painted my fingernails today. For this five seconds? For this five seconds. I regretted this. Yeah, why? Like, immediately after I did it, I regretted it. Who talked you into it? Oh, look at the Lakers. They're shaking hands. We got them. We got them. Got our men. How'd we do this? Wow. Incredible work. So, Max, yeah, the fingernails. Or is that it? No, I like Jerry McCann. I think he's good. I was fired up about him last night.

And then I text good. He is good. He's very good. And then I texted page and I was like, can you bring the fingernail? And I did the fingernails thing this morning. And then the more time has passed, the less I care about it. And now I just have white, white painted fingernails. It's going to be like that for a while. Yeah. No, I mean, I can take them off. Yeah. But I had like last night. I was like, I'm going to recreate all. I'm going to recreate his tick tocks. I'm like, I'm not doing any of that. Yeah. You should create one.

Maybe I'll recreate one. Yeah. Two days into college. But he's the best shooter in the draft. He's the best shooter since Steph Curry. He's better than Reed Shepard. Reed Shepard led the league in three-point percentage. I'll read you this stat. There have been two freshmen in NCAA history with a .611-plus true shooting percentage, 210 three-point attempts, and 150-plus rebounds. And that's Jared McCain and Steph Curry.

Okay, but Reed Shepard... Shout out David Murphy. But Reed Shepard shot better from three. I don't think you understood my stat that I just said. Yeah, because I don't think you understand my stat that I just said. You can choose your stats. I'll choose my stats. Okay. You know what? I'm excited to see LeBron and Bronny. No, it's going to be good. It's going to be fun. It's going to be good for talking about basketball. Yeah, it's going to be fun. It's going to get annoying because it's going to be all...

A lot of people talk about basketball, but I'm excited to watch them play together. It's cool. Father, son, that's fucking cool. If one of them throws an alley-oop to the other, that's going to be a good moment. This is going to be crazy. But yeah, this is cool. I think it's kind of weird for Bronny, but it's cool. I think it's a little bit weird for both of them. Yeah. Not for LeBron. He's LeBron. I don't think anything's weird for him anymore.

It's a little bit weird. And we'll get to that with Jimmy Tatro. Yeah. Okay. The only other story I had from this draft. Well, Zach Eady to the Grizzlies. I was worried the Bulls were going to take him. I wish him luck. Congrats to Zach Eady for real being a top 10 pick because I think that was a lot of people were ripping him off.

I always ripped him for different reasons. Not that he couldn't play basketball, but a lot of people were like, oh, get ready to learn Slovenian, buddy. Top 10 pick. Pretty good. Made a lot of money. We'll see how he gets officiated in the NBA. Yeah, that's fine. Any other notable draft? I mean, Dalton Connect fell all the way to 17, which was a little shocking. And I don't have any other big things except...

Kyle Filipowski story is very weird. It's beyond weird. Also weird that we didn't find out about this till today. Yeah, that we didn't know about his old girlfriend who is potentially recruiting him to be a Mormon and he hasn't talked to his family. Yeah, he's got a 28-year-old girlfriend who has been dating him since he was a senior in high school. It is funny that he got drafted by Utah. Yeah.

This is all part of the plan. But I think he fell in the draft because of this. To Utah. Yeah. Maybe Utah. Maybe Utah told everyone. I think he fell in the draft because I think he was going to be a first rounder and he had apparently weird answers in his interviews.

And yeah, didn't know that. It's very interesting. Didn't know that. It might have been the exact same thing as Bronny. It's like if you draft him, he will instead just move to Utah. Yeah. So don't draft him. Yeah. All right. Any other big pictures? Any other tea? You know what? I'm going to say it. Everyone feel the need. Yeah. Hey, you know what? Everyone got a nice developmental project that we would not be surprised looking back five years from now and saying,

That's a good role player. I'm really rooting for this draft to be awesome because it would be great to just shine it on everyone's face like no one knows Paul. That would be great. Yeah, but I think they even had it on the ESPN broadcast after Zachariah Risacher, the first pick overall. I think someone said he's a great 3 and D guy role player type. Yeah, that's what you want to hear with the number one overall pick. Yeah, that's never a great sign. Okay. Okay.

Anything else before we kick it to ourselves? Again, quick reminder about our schedule coming up. Monday, we have Dungeons & Dragons. Wednesday, we'll have an update of all NBA free agencies. So it'll be a fresh show, but it'll be also Dingers only and Gunnar Henderson. So that is our schedule. No show Friday. And then we come back strong with Joe Burrow on the Monday after July 4th. Anything else? I think that's good. Okay. NFL Sunday ticket lawsuit. The NFL has to pay $4.7 billion. Okay.

But Mike Foyle said it's just going to stay in appeals forever. Probably. But what does that mean? $4.7 billion. Does that mean we all get like $200? Sure. Okay. Debate thoughts before it happens. Oh, I... America loses. No, here's my problem with the debate tonight. This should have been my Fyre Fest, actually.

I don't know who to vote for. I'm undecided. I think they're both great candidates. And I think they both made a lot of outstanding points tonight and did a great job. And I think this is going to be a very hard decision because they're both... I'm an undecided voter. And this is... It's making my life very tough. I wish you had not asked this question.

America loses. We have a country of 360 million people and all we can find is two guys that are fucking 80 years old. And America loses. Two 80 year old guys with coke head sons. Yeah. Yeah. Good debate. That's actually the best part about them. Yeah. OK, let's get to ourself. Mount Rushmore. And then we have Jimmy Tatro, Christian Pierce and Bessa KSR and Firefest the week.

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Mount Rushmore time. This is a good one. It's a great one. Shout out the guy who left the comment. I don't know his name, but you know who it is. Shout out our listeners. Shout out you. Shout out you. That's right, you. This is the Mount Rushmore of hobbies that become a person's personality.

Great, great topic. Also, thank you everyone who enjoyed our drunk episode. We won't be doing that for a very long time again. Chadwell Walker. Chadwell Walker, thank you for the submission for this Mount Rushmore. The drunk episode, while fun, I think...

You can't do it often because I think it's hard to listen to drunk people. And also, we all woke up with massive anxiety. Massive, massive anxiety. And I think we're all still dehydrated from it. Oh, yeah. Hank's still wearing the shades right now. Shout out Body Armor. Yep. Body Armor's help for sure. It was a fun episode. It was good to hang with the boys. Yeah. G.J. Reddick. What are your thoughts on G.J. Reddick? What are your thoughts on the Mikhail Bridges trade, Max? G.J. Reddick.

I woke up with a ton of... I drunk DM'd Mikal, no response. That was a tough wake up and realize, why did I do that? That was so weird of me. Yeah, no, I don't love the Mikal trade, obviously, but that was tough. It's like the best friends in the whole world that were also your best friends are now playing for the team you don't like. Yeah, no, that sucks. And they're having a great time. And J. Reddick's going to coach them. Yep. But why do I hate J. J. Reddick?

What? No, Max doesn't like JJ. That's what Will said. Big enemies. Okay, so this is going to be a good one. Hopefully this will get a little bit contentious because the last one I feel like we were... It was just like, good pick, good pick, very supportive. Where is it? It's in the action. Well, it's because of those things you say to your drunk friends. We were all drunk, so we're like, yep, true. Yeah, we do say that. Yeah, we do Mount Rushmore's. All right, so the draft order this time, I'm going to start it, then it's Big Cat, then it's Hank, then it's...

Max. And then we circle back. Then Max. Okay. Max is grabbing my loosies. Where's memes? I don't know what's off. Something's off with Max and memes today. Yeah. They feel like a little off. Are they at each other's throats? I don't know what's going on. They're just a little off. Maybe it's because their boss is massively hungover and not really bossing. Shit rolls downhill. They did great work yesterday. No, I supervised the hell out of them. You did nothing. We'll get to that with Firefell. Negative. Negative.

A negative. A negative. Okay. So, PFT, you have first pick. Yep. Mount Rushmore of hobbies that become a person's personality. 1-1, CrossFit. Oh. CrossFit, it consumes your life. You have to start recruiting other people to go to CrossFit. Yeah.

You put stickers all over your cars, stickers on your laptops. CrossFit. Okay. As a CrossFitter? What? As a CrossFitter. I was once a CrossFitter. I was able to stay out of the... It becomes my entire personality, but there are definitely a group of people who do CrossFit, and they only become friends with other CrossFitters, and they talk about doing CrossFit. It's kind of faded. The peak was probably about...

what, maybe 10 years ago. There's a lot of gyms that are CrossFit adjacent now that open up. Yeah. Um, that, but the, the CrossFitter I'm talking about is that uses all the lingo, the one that they, they speak in CrossFit language and they, they ask each other constantly, how'd you do on the workout of the day? And then they end up getting, uh,

massively, massively injured in CrossFit. And then they become a former CrossFitter and they try to rehab so they can get back into CrossFit and get injured again. And they vacation in CrossFit. Like, oh, there's a competition in San Diego. Let's go do some CrossFit. You remember when they tried to put the CrossFit games on TV? They might still be on TV. Yeah, yeah. And then they're like, yeah, this is the sport of the future. People watch. You know who the original CrossFitter was?

Jesus. Yeah. I had that on my list. It wasn't my 1-1, though. I have a very clear 1-1. That was my 1-1. Okay. Obviously. My 1-1, or I guess 1-2, Swifties. Fuck. I had that on my list. I mean, they're the number one. Yeah. Right now, they're the number one. That is their hobby that becomes their entire personality. Swifties, if you see a Swifty online, that's all they want to talk about is Swifties.

And they talk about, you know, Travis and all that stuff. That was, yeah, that was going to be my pick. I thought it was going to slip. Yeah. That's a good pick. Swifties. I was thinking about it late last night and I was like, I was going through the ones that will probably get picked. I was like, Swifties are just, they're all over. They have an entire world that they've constructed. Yeah. It's almost like a cinematic universe around Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. That was my one and two also. Yeah. Yeah. Tough.

Okay. Hank, with the sunglasses on. I think I might have just made a last minute switch. I don't know if this is smart, but I'm going to go with it. New parents. Okay. Oh, yeah. New parents for sure. Like mommy bloggers. They have a kid and then their entire feed is just everything about the kid. Is that a hobby? But is having a child a hobby? Is that a hobby? I'll take it. But is it a hobby? Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Something you do for, I don't know, I guess, I mean. I think the making of the child is something you do for fun. Yeah. Would a significant other have counted as well? I think that's a different category, being like a wife guy. Yeah. No, that's okay. A wife enthusiast, yeah. It's a hobby.

Okay. Loving your children is a hobby. And it's so hilarious. It's so funny how your entire life becomes around raising your kid. But post, that's a different thing than your whole personality online becomes. Yeah, new parent. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Are you looking at me right now? No. Hank, take the sunglasses off. I can't tell what you're looking at. Are you looking at me? I just haven't had some... There are a sect of AWLs who hate that I give one anecdote a week about my kids. There's also a lot of people who like it because they're... No, but you're... I'm talking more about your people's social channels. Yeah, yeah. It's like that is not you, but it is a lot of people. Yeah. No, you get... Yeah, it becomes... Kids become a lot of...

everything that happens in your life. That's a fact. I just didn't know if you were looking at me. I wasn't. Has it become my whole personality? No. Okay. Just leave the sunglasses off, Hank. It's disrespectful. I bet some bad eyes. There are some of these that are hurtful to personalities. Go ahead.

Sports gambling. Yep, that was the one. I'm going to pick that one. That one you could accuse me of. Yep. But I've been doing that for a very long time, but it's become more. I actually had it on my list as not sports gambling. I had parlay guy. Yeah. Because, like, it's the, you know, oh, I have seven more legs in my parlay. Jerry. Yeah. And it's also the thing, like, if you don't know a couple guys at an outing, it's like, you got anything today? Yep. Yep.

That's a good pick. I had it, and it hurts me because I know that I'm guilty of that for sure. Yes. Also of being a Swifty. Yep. Next one, I'm going to go Car Guys. Car Guys, yeah. Okay. That's a good one. That's a good one. 50 wishes. I will never know enough about cars to make it my entire personality. Yeah, it's kind of cool to be...

I don't know. I respect it. You know what? A lot of these is their personality. And a lot of these, it's not necessarily disrespect to put them on this list because guess what? As you get older, your hobbies do become a big part of your personality. Yeah. You just, so this is a list though of people who like it becomes their entire personality. All of these things can be part of your personality and it'd be normal. But if it just is the only thing you talk about, you become that person. You're a Swifty. You're a CrossFitter. Like that's, if people think of that as number one, that's where you get into, you know, issues.

So dealing with a lot of car guys recently, it's made me realize how little I actually know about cars because the first thing that they ask me is like, okay, so what's your level of automotive experience? I tell them nothing. And then they say, okay, well, take this part and then do this. I'm like, I don't know what either of those two parts. So I have to make them dumb it down to like three levels of magnitude lower. I was like, are you talking about the black thing that makes noise? Yes. Okay. That thing?

Okay, there are two of those. Which one of those is that that you're talking about? Yes. Yes. Okay. Good picks. We got some hot picks. Hank? I'll take it before someone else does golf. Oh! Good pick. I didn't even have it on there. You don't even like that? I had it. It's a fun little sport. I had it. No, I had it on it there, too. I had it. I was debating between car and golf, but... Yeah, I mean, it's tough. Usually, they're not even that good. We're just baring our souls right now. It's all they talk about. I knew this was going to happen. Yeah, I mean, it is...

I don't care that it's, I don't think it's from my whole personality, but it is. Oh, it has. It's become a large. 100%. It consumes my brain. I enjoy golf. It's a hobby that I like to play. I enjoy, you know, gambling and golfing and having fun with my friends. Yeah. But yeah, it's definitely on that category. Yeah. Okay. You were wearing a shirt that was made out of golf balls yesterday. Yeah. Shout a row back. It's a six shirt. It is. It is a six shirt. Uh, okay. Uh, I'll go with another new age one. Um,

Crypto people. Yeah. Crypto people. It's when you see NFT, Bitcoin. That's literally all they want to talk about. Have fun being poor, big cat. They just want to tell you about every crypto that's ever been created. And you're like, do you live in the real world still? Or are you just crypto? Are you telling yourself for not being at bank zero? I do not have banks. I do have a little Bitcoin. I don't know how to get it.

But yeah, crypto has become a big time personality trait. Yeah, your eyes are definitely not illuminated right now. Yeah. I'm going to go my second pick. I actually had this first round talent weed. Mm hmm. Just being a weed guy. Mm hmm. Just big time stoner. I think we all know some some real pothead friends that.

that becomes everything they talk about i admit was it like that more back in the day yeah i don't think that's people it's more casual now yeah because it's so it's so everywhere and it's legalized that i don't think it it's become as much not as cool to be or it's it's like before when it was illegal it was and like frowned upon yeah then you had to kind of stand your ground back i'm a weed guy i don't care what the rules are now it's like everyone just kind of

except that people casually smoke weed. It might also be because we're a little bit older, but I'm sure that once people start getting into weed, like at a young age, there's still that sweet spot of being like 15 to 27 where that is your entire life. It's just thinking about weed, bringing over different types of weed, be like, hey man, smell this weed. Yep, smells like weed. No, but you don't understand. It's got crystals on it. All right, for my next one, I'm going to go with

Supporting a political party. Yeah. Politics across the board. That just becomes all that you think about, and it consumes every moment of your being. And it's all you talk about. You don't want to be friends with anybody that has different political opinions from you. You kind of put half the United States into a box of people that you either think is a pedophile or someone that's not to be trusted around. Actually, yeah, both pedophiles. No matter what party you're on, you're like, they're pedophiles.

So, yeah, politics, number three. Okay. Well, I had something similar. I don't know if it could count, but I had just Trump good or bad. That's kind of the same thing. All right, all right, because that is like the people who are obsessed with Trump

Those are political. Yeah, but it goes even further. More non-political people join the Trump good. But it's deeper with the just like they don't even think political parties anymore. They literally just think what is Donald Trump doing and then decide their life on that. All right, I'll go with Disney adults.

They're the weirdest people in the world. Now, do they only become activated when they're in Disney World? I don't know, but if you've met a Disney adult, it usually is a sign. There's a lot of people out there that get married at Disney World, get proposed at Disney World. Yeah. They dress up as Disney characters. And I actually think in this whole entire list...

Some of these people, their hobbies become their personality traits just because they throw themselves into it. I think Disney adults, their hobby becomes their personality traits because the rest of the world no longer accepts them.

So they find each other. Yeah, they have to find each other and that's what they become. Yeah, there is a phenomenon, though, of people that you think are just normal, everyday dudes and girls that walk around, walk amongst us, able to blend in. But the second they set foot inside the Disney theme park, they just change. Yeah. Their entire body, their mood changes. Yeah. And they just want to stay there for the rest of their lives. Max, you had that?

You had that on your list? I didn't, but you're doing very good. I'm just not confident in my list right now. Okay. All right. Get the confidence up. You got two picks coming up. You got two big picks coming up. There's a lot of... There's a lot of... Like, I have...

I think great picks that are going to be left on the, on the cutting room floor. Yeah. Same. I think I'm going to shift, uh, which I did run one, which might not have been smart, but just sports fandom. Yeah. That's a good one. The people that, you know, and we deal with them all the time, especially me where like, there's people who make, you know, the Patriots or their Celtics, their entire personality. And then if you don't know every player on the roster and don't watch every single game, you're a casual. And it's like, that's all they want to talk about. And yeah,

If you talk shit about one of their teams on the show, the people that have made that team, their personality will come at you and be like, how dare you talk shit about this team? Like, you don't know what you're talking about. Right. Agreed. Okay.

My next one is runners, marathon runners. Yeah, I had it. I had it. Good one. Great one. The guy with the stickers on the back of their car. And just also any screenshots. Even people like who start training for a marathon. They just tell you that they're training for a marathon nonstop. Yeah. They spend all their free time on message boards, looking up other marathoners and trying to prove that they cheated. Yeah.

The last one is... I'm struggling to word it. I like the cars that have the 0.0 sticker on the back. That always plays. Yeah. Get it? The last one I will do... I get fashion. People are super into fashion. I don't know. I don't feel good about it. You're not selling me on it, Matt. You could have sold me with more than three. What would an example of this be, Max? I'm talking more of the fashion influencers on TikTok. They do the outfit of the day and the next new...

I was going between that or sneaker heads, but fashion I thought was maybe more of like a whatever. Fuck it. I lost this. I lost this Mount Rushmore. It's fine. Jesus Christ, dude. Damn. I think Max... Sometimes you just don't feel like you had a good Rushmore. I think you got complacent after your last one. You got a big win. No, I just... Look at that chick. My mind was going elsewhere. She was with horny guys. Yeah. What? Horny guys. Yeah. Look at that chick. Fashionista, I guess, is the right word. You're making it worse. It's so bad.

Fashion. Fashion guys. It doesn't have to be guys. Fashion girls. Yeah. Just...

Yes, that is like a hobby. I mean, Hank said having a kid. You have a personality, like having that be a hobby that becomes your personality trait, so your personality trait is you just dress really well? No, but it's like going to, like spending your Saturday waiting in line for like the new separate drop to happen. Having a kid's not a hobby. What is it?

How is that a hobby? I think it's pretty much the building blocks of life on Earth. A hobby? It's definitely not a hobby. But what would it qualify under? Just living. Just life. Yeah, it's just... It's literally... If you don't have kids, there is no more life. It's literally life. A hobby is considered to be a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time. I think Philip Rivers qualifies as a hobby at this point. He's bored. You want to have another one? But...

The having the kid is the it's an activity. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to go with this one. This I mean, this is similar to my third pick. Basically, all my friends have split in between golf and fishing. Oh, fishing. People that are super into fishing. That's, you know, all they talk about, all they do. They wake up 4 a.m. I had that on my list. But I think this fish is. Yeah.

okay and then you take your picture for all social media profiles literally my friend group is split between it's like we'd like joke about it because it's like half my friends are obsessed with fishing and they don't give a fuck about golf and the other half love to play golf don't care about fishing i think it's yeah because you don't have time to do the other right yeah um okay my last pick i'm actually surprising it left i i thought it i thought it would go before fashion uh but it didn't uh

IPA guy slash brewing his own beer. Yeah, beer guy. Beer guy who's just snobby about all his beer and he's going to brew his own beer and he's, you haven't tried this and come on, man. Don't try to give that guy a Coors Light. It's okay. It's okay. You can just drink the beer. We don't have to talk about the beer. Just drink the beer. The cans and everything. I mean, there are some cool cans out there. I'll give them that. Yeah. Waiting in line for brew.

For breweries Yeah Like when breweries do drops And camping out Yeah Yeah you go to a big festival And you don't You're not even allowed To spend money on them So you gotta go to a table And buy like raffle tickets Right And then you give the people With the beers The raffle tickets And then if you go over To their house They're like You gotta try my beer It's like I

I mean, Brooklyn was right. Big time. Big time. That was everywhere. Yeah. You go to a bar and you're just like, can I get a Coors Light? And they're like, no, we don't have that. We have every other type of beer, micro brew. It used to be a big attraction, too, when you're moving to a new town. It's like, yeah, there's a lot of micro breweries. Now that's every city. Now every city has them. Facts. And I like beer. I do, too.

And I like all kinds of beer. Yeah. But I've never gone to breweries and remembered the beer that you liked anyway. It's like even if I found a beer I liked, I'm like, all right, moving on. Yeah. Okay. Last pick. Okay, my last pick. Hobby that turns into a personality. Vegan. Mm-hmm.

Being a vegan. Yeah. Because it doesn't just become your person. It has to rub off. And it becomes other people's personalities too. Yes. They have to adopt it around you. Yes. Or else you're not there. And they got to tell you about it. Because every time you go out or anything. Yeah. Well, I'm a vegan. Yeah. Aaron was rare vegan slash atheist combo. Yeah. Never been done before. Yeah. Yeah.

Great party guy. No, he's no longer a vegan. He saw the light. And if you are vegan by choice, that's fine. But just know that. You'll probably live longer than us. Yeah, definitely. I won't eat the bugs. You'll laugh at us one day. You'll try to get us to eat the bugs. I won't eat the bugs. Those aren't vegans, though. Oh, yeah, true. Bugs aren't vegan. True. True. Vegan adjacent. All right. What did we miss? I did have dog dad or mom on. Yep. Because that's a big one. When it was like, oh, I got a dog. Do you want me to switch mine with that?

No. Dog dad or mom, especially, I got to say, listen, I have a dog. I love dogs. When a person wishes themselves happy Mother's or Father's Day when you have just a dog, that's the craziest thing I've ever fucking seen in my life. What about... That's a fucking... Actually, no, I take that back. They get fur babies. Yeah, fur babies. The craziest thing was actually our guy Tony P in D.C. He had a post saying...

what Father's Day means to me as a person who would... An aspiring father. An aspiring father. I like that, claiming it beforehand. That one was a little too much. I do love when dog people say, like, raising a dog, I know what it's like to be a father. I know what it's like to be a mother because, you know, raising a dog is its own challenge. I just love how much that irritates real parents.

So that's funny. No, that's a funny thing. That's a funny thing. We did that to Pete. Yeah, I did that to you for a while, too. Well, but you actually don't... I still don't think you understand what kids are because you put it under hobby. No, so... When Pete does it, it's a joke. You're doing it, and you don't actually... No, I used to do it to you as a joke. I didn't get you very mad, but... But no, but again, I don't think you're joking because you put down being a parent as a hobby. So I said it right before I switched. I switched it the last second. I was going to just do, like, significant other. Like...

When a guy gets a new girlfriend or a girl gets a new boyfriend and they just start posting about them 24-7. That's also not a hobby. It's not a hobby, yeah. It kind of is, though. It's just thinking about things that take over people's lives. Yeah. Which is not always a hobby. How is that a hobby? It is funny, though, as a small glimpse into the mind of Hank, who has no worries or cares, to think the most important thing that you'll ever do on this planet has totally become your entire personality. Isn't that weird?

No, all right. So, yeah, that was a bad pick. Whatever. Significant other is more hobby-ish. Memes just rattled off a bunch of good ones right after my last pick back here. Oh, no. Hank, now what I think would play is people that have kids that think that they're the first people to ever have kids. Correct. And so I was actually in a fantasy football league like 10 years ago with multiple people who independently changed their fantasy team name

To so and so's dad Yeah that's And that's kind of weird Yeah no there's definitely I know what you're saying They just become like everything is just the kids And they don't have a life outside of the kids And same with Significant Other Yeah

But yeah, I guess I probably lost it with that. I had conspiracy theories. Yeah, that's actually really... Because then once you go over the deep end, you can't come back. The iceberg, baby. It sucks you down. And just your job. Your job, yep. Is that a hobby? That explains a lot for Hank. Yeah, it's a hobby for Hank. Now everything's making sense. Yeah, I get it now, Hank. Everything's making sense. I had a swinger on there. Yeah.

That's a hobby. Sex guy. Sex guy becomes your whole life. What about grilling meats guy? Yeah. Guy, if you have like...

If you get the big green egg, but you also have a flat top and you also have charcoal and you also have the wood chip and you're like, hey, what are you doing this weekend? Well, I'm slow cooking a brisket for 48 hours. Yeah, I'm going to spend 16 hours sitting in the room right next to my patio. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, the hobby's kind of past me. But we never know how it's going to look on the graphic. I had a guy that liked sobriety.

It's a hobby, yeah. But, like, that becomes people's, yeah. No, that was, I might have. Surprise. Yeah, not a hobby. No, you spend all your time going to meetings. I mean, you're still going to beat me in this. Like, but, like, self-help or, like, meditation, like. I would say. Yoga. Like, some minor mental illness becomes someone's hobby. Like, minor. I'm not saying, like, actual, like.

Someone who has to tell you, like, well, I have OCD, but they don't actually have OCD. Oh, being an empath. Yeah, and they're like, oh, I have OCD. It's like, no, you actually don't because it's not... You can... Like, you know, they'll just... Self-diagnosed mental illness becomes someone's hobby. Allergies. We missed a big one. Yeah, allergies is a good one. Yeah. Allergies is a great one. Missed a big one.

Collecting trading cards Yeah Being a card slash collectible guy Autograph guy Yeah that's Yeah it falls into the same like Yeah Mmhmm Yeah that's If you quit your job and start a brand new company All around Yeah Collectibles and loving collectibles They call it clit Yeah call it clit That's a major red flag Yeah What were memes ones that he rattled off? Memes get on the mic Yeah I said video games Yes Good one What else did I say? What about just memes?

Memes is a good one. Oh, I think actually there is the, and this is all of us in a little bit, but it is also our job, but the two online guy where it's like they're, the way they speak and the way they converse is just really deep online things that people wouldn't know. You can tell that they're in some weird message boards. Right. Trevor Bauer, kind of like that in person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He is the internet. You can't speak to us like a regular human being. Yeah. Like memes.

memes also said barso listeners no that's what meme says i mean i got a job doing it yeah that's true yeah you are that you are that okay what else means you had another one you just that was two max said you rattled off a bunch of really great i've said gym like going to the gym after crossfit or no yeah i think that also plays yeah because there's different there's different there's a different gym person than the crossfit person yeah like yeah yoga definitely qualifies in that yeah um

Doing like Rosillo is not a CrossFit guy, but he's definitely a gym guy. Yeah. Like what are the other new ones? Pilates. That's not really that new, but Pilates can become your life. Aloe. Yeah. Aloe. Yeah. That's they don't, they would never let us in there. I think we could go for like a day, but they would be like, they would sound alarm being like a go day.

It's the exact opposite of Planet Fitness Yeah, they'd be like, we're doing a Make-A-Wish We're gonna let a few Ugo podcasters in Everyone, please If you feel uncomfortable in the workplace today You can work from home We're gonna have the Ugos stop by Hobbies that become your entire personality Losing championships in sports Could be one Also winning championships in sports could be another one Becoming a fan of a band Yeah, bands That will happen Swifties Yeah

But yes. But right, there's other like Zach Bryan, Grateful Dead. Yeah, for sure. If it becomes your whole existence. Yeah, absolutely. I had skateboarding. Skateboarding? Yeah, that's true. I should have said that over fashion. That was the two I was going between. I should have said that. Cooking, different than grilling, but cooking is definitely on there. Cooking and also becoming a foodie. Yeah, foodie.

Foodie for sure. I'm different from a lot of people. I enjoy food. Oh, you haven't tried that restaurant? I really like food. Foodie's a great one. I'm pissed about this. That was a big miss. You had Fashionista, though. That was good. You fucked up, Max. What about just like dancing? Okay. No. Go on. No, like TikTok. Like with the TikTok nowadays, like people dance and that becomes their entire personality. I feel like TikTok could be an answer, too.

Yeah. Yeah. Star Wars. Star Wars is good. Harry Potter. I thought Star Wars after you said Disney, but I thought it was too close. Yeah. It is a little adjacent. Yeah. But he also said podcasting, but he's too scared to say it. Yeah, that could be. Ain't no hobby. Yeah.

It's not a hobby for us. For us. What about knowing quotes from The Office? Yeah. Brandon Walker does that. Quoting The Office. Yeah. That could go across the board for just comedy movies. Yeah. If you're really into saying quotes from them, a lot of times people will think, oh, you're funny. Yeah. Oh, no. It's just you know when to put those quotes in. Yep. That's a really good one. What else? Anything else? I mean, this is a good topic. Mm-hmm.

And again, we probably, there's a bunch on there that would be like, oh, hand up. Would you say that? Like the gym? So Taylor Swift. I do that too much. Liking Taylor Swift is a good pick. Would you also consider not liking Taylor Swift to be a hobby that turns into your personality? I think that's a little more rare. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know many. I think there's people who don't like Taylor Swift, but I don't think they make it their entire personality. Yeah.

don't you think like that's a little harder to do because then you just don't like anything making a hobby your personality is has to be liking more than not liking well just being a hater in general could be your whole personality that's true yeah being a negative person hating things yeah yeah being the negative guy okay we good that's a good good mount rush for my voice or reason what something could say voice or reason for about you

About the negative guy, the hypothetical negative guy. Oh, we weren't talking about you there, Hank. We're talking about you. It was I. Yeah. I'm just devil's advocate for that hypothetical person. Right. Just being negative on every turn. I'm not. Just being a realist. See, right now you're being negative. You're disagreeing with me. Agreed. I said that you're the most negative guy we've got, and you just said I'm not. You didn't say that. Okay, well, you're the most negative guy we've got.

Agree to disagree. See, he's being negative right now. Everyone's entitled to their opinions. I hate these cliches. Yeah. I'm trying not to be negative. You're being disingenuous. I disagree to agree.

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This summer's Oppenheimer?

Yeah. That's what they're saying. Right. Yeah. I'm so excited for this movie. Real bros. If you haven't watched it, it is. Can we watch all of it in one place? Actually was my first question. Fuck. We actually meant to show you the trailer when we came in. Okay. I don't know. Should we still show them? Oh, we could. You'd have too much time. It's only two. Are we in it?

Because you said we were going to get a cameo and I can't remember if we filmed it. Oh, that was the day the Wi-Fi was down. We meant to add you on. It would be great if you just put a clip of us in it. I sent you that fax. Yeah. I don't know if you got that. Did you guys get that? Yeah. I did. On that fax, I think you said like we can just use a clip from this interview at the very end of

movie right it did say that so congratulations on making a movie and having us in your movie yeah yeah yeah i don't know what it would i don't know what we would have done without you guys yeah you know what we should do at the end of this interview you guys both should be like yeah and that's our idea for a movie

And then we put it at the end of the movie. Wow. Right? It's like a dream sequence. Holy shit. I like that. It's warping everything. Trying to get us nominated for an award out here. That's what we're thinking. Yeah. And then we're like, nah, we'll never work. Fuck no. You guys go, absolutely not. And then that's the end. So I'm pumped for this. This is going to be awesome because it's so funny. So first of all, can we watch Real Bros in one place twice?

Because you guys have hit the... We talked about this last time. Yes, we were trying to go to every single platform. Is this the first time on Roku? It's the first time on Roku. Fuck yes. So we're hitting the bingo card. Yeah, so we're checking as many platforms as possible. But right now...

The whole show is on YouTube. Fuck yes. Okay. So that's something I was pretty pumped about. Yeah. We got negotiated with the movies. We got all the episodes back. So they're now all on YouTube. Perfect. So everyone catch up before you watch the movie. I guess the other thing that's so great about this show and now a movie, and I'm wondering what you guys, Christian, I'll ask you this. Is it weird having a show that...

It's been difficult at times to watch because it's been on different platforms. We'll just say that. But I would say it's one of the most viral gift shows out there that I think there's a whole group of people that don't even maybe know what show they're gifting, but the gifts are so fucking funny that there's an untapped audience. And if we can connect their brains and be like, no, that's actually real bros and they have a movie out.

it's like you have to watch it because they're using the GIFs constantly. Yeah, especially with TikTok coming up 2020 to now. There was a moment where we weren't really using TikTok that much, but we saw the Real Bros meme release.

Right. Really going wild on there. And it surpassed, like, the views on TikTok had surpassed the views anywhere else. We're like, what the fuck? We're not even on here. Do people even notice? I count with 140,000 followers. Yeah. Pumping out real bros. And how do we make money off of it?

There's like a whole underground scene of TikTok accounts that they do with podcasts too. Well, they'll just take clips from podcasts and be like, hey, check out this clip. And then they're getting all the money for it, which I always look at as being a good thing overall because they're promoting like when I see an old part of my take clip surface on there, I'm like, well, they're just doing like a free advertisement for part of my

take so yeah that but at the same time it can i can see why people that like put time and creative energy into like writing a show might be like hey kind of fucked up that you're just putting my shit out there i think if it's if it's not taking up space that you're already trying to fill like we didn't have a presence on tiktok at the time that it took off on tiktok if we had accounts that we were putting time and money into and those accounts still exist i'll be fucking

Yeah.

that was supposed to air on like a show for the first time and someone recorded it on the show before I could even upload it to YouTube and

and posted it on youtube like a recording of a screen on tv old school like got like 15 million views like on facebook and i hadn't even posted it yeah i was like this this is fucked and it was that video of the little kid running for a touchdown oh yeah you know grant to wish kids touchdown and then he's running and then a guy comes out of nowhere and smacks smashes him yeah and they probably acted like it was a real clip

Yeah, that was what was funny about that one. Everyone thought that one was real. Yeah. What's his name? Oh, man. Michael Irving, I think. He tweeted one time, like, this is so fucked up. I was like, dude, that's... That's the best price you could ask for. I would imagine Xander Shoffley winning the PGA Championship was huge for you guys. Good.

It's big for Xanders. Big day for Xanders. It's the summer of Xanders. I saw on the clip of you asking him if he had seen Real Bros of Cine Valley. And he was like, no, but sometimes people yell Xan at me. That's kind of cool. That's pretty good. On the show, is Xander's name Xander or is it Alexander? Xander. Yeah, he's just, I think Xander on the birth certificate. Okay, yeah. But we have decided that...

Hawk's middle name is Tua. Oh, I like that. Yeah. It's been Tua this whole time. Yeah. Hawk Tua Sanders. That's crazy you guys were in front of that. How old is Hawk? So Hawk is... Well, I think this is... What day is this coming out? This is coming out on Friday. This Friday? This Friday.

I feel like we can say. We can say, like, he's older. He's older. Hawkeye's older than me. Yeah. Hawkeye's... Yeah. Hawkeye's... He might be surpassed. Yeah, Jimmy's character has a son, and they've aged him so rapidly. He was a baby, and then all of a sudden he was, like, nine, and now he's older than you. Yeah, now he's twice the age of his parents. Yeah, he's in his 50s. Yeah, maybe older than him. And, uh...

Yeah, because I remember, I think I told you last time I was on here, you were like, how old is Hawk going to be? I'm like, he definitely needs to be older than Xander. So yeah, to begin in the middle of the movie, he's definitely like in his 50s, 60s. And then just keep watching. Just keep watching. What was that like for the old guy that's playing your son? Oh man, well, the guy who's playing his son in this one is actually a legend. So it was pretty nice. Wow.

Yeah, we can't say too much, but the name Hawk is a pretty big giveaway. So you guys got Kevin Spacey? Yeah. That's right, dude. Holy shit. That's right. I just think he needs a chance. It's all about redemption, you know? Imagine if that was his comeback. What did he really do? If you guys had him as his comeback. Oh, my God. He called me, actually, and it was like, Jim, it was like one of those weird, creepy videos. Yeah.

He was in front of his fireplace and he's like, let me play Hawk. The House of Cards accent? The Underwood? I can do this, yeah. Remember when he did that Christmas video where he was like, Frank Underwood. We're like, why is Frank Underwood...

lecturing us on Christmas. You need people like me. That didn't get enough attention for how weird it was. I think we all tried to look away. Let's pretend this didn't happen. And they did one in Italy one year where he was on a bench or something. I didn't see that one. Kevin Spacey checking in. Yeah. I'm still...

Like on the run. I'm still fucking weird. Yeah. So what if I'm a pedophile? Y'all need people like me. So it's funny because you've actually worked with Kevin Spacey since you were like 12, 13 years old and you were like his protege, right? Yeah. Yeah. That was really cool. Really full circle there. I pretty much credit him. I credit him with a lot. Yeah. Um,

Not career-wise, just like how I am. Yeah, just as a man. General guy. How you carry yourself. How you carry yourself, how I operate in the world. So it is Tony Hawk playing your son. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to say any names, but the name Hawk is, you know, it's definitely...

It's involved in the name of the man. Yeah, I forget where I read this. It was maybe six, eight months ago, but I read that you used to make skateboarding videos when you were a kid. Yeah. Like a real young kid, right? Yeah. Was that your first foray into online videos? Absolutely, yeah. Not online, because it wasn't online yet, but it was like little... I was like the videographer of my little skate group in Venice.

And I was the guy with the video camera. But, you know, there was no editing. So it was just like I'd have a boom box. Start, stop. And I would go, you know, hit play and then hit stop and just try to keep it. So there would be a soundtrack that kind of went through. It was like, you know, Linkin Park, like. A live soundtrack. And sometimes like if someone missed, I'd rewind both and try to. So it was like this soundtrack was just like, you know. Yeah.

That's awesome. Wait, so you guys were in a frat together in Arizona. That's how you first met? Yeah. And Christian, are you a diehard Clippers fan too? No. Oh. No, no, no. So just Jimmy. Just Jimmy. You can bond over this Lakers hate today. Oh, yeah, but I also hate the Lakers. Oh, okay, good. Yeah, I'm a Bulls fan. What do you think about JJ? Honestly, I think it's probably a good move for him for the organization. Yeah? Yeah. He seems... Yeah, he kind of turned his back on podcasting.

It's kind of a shitty move. He said he's never, he's going to stop doing podcasts on his coach. Like podcasting is not a stepping stone job. No, no. Like he used us. I feel like, and we had a moment where like, he's that type dude said representation matters. We're like JJ Redick went from podcasting to NBA coach. So could we, but then he just turns his back on the family. I don't,

What are you guys going to do about that? I don't know. We always say, like podcasting, it's the brotherhood. And for a guy like that to turn his back on the brotherhood, it just hurts a lot more than anything. I guess next time I won't be so nice to former players that then become podcasters because they've been burned.

Yeah, NBA coaching is like gladiator rules. So if you do fight him and you do beat him, you're the new Lakers head coach. Yeah, that's a good point. If you want that life. I never thought about how this was affecting the podcasting community. It's a major issue. We're not narcissists, but that's exactly what it is. It's a story about podcasts. You'll actually love this. We did a, to promote season three, we like went on the news, the daily news, and this guy showed up in a Clippers uniform. No, I texted him that before.

I texted the guy before. I'm like, what are you wearing tomorrow? And he's like, I think I'm wearing a Lakers jersey. I'm like, all right, cool. Pull up in a Clippers jersey. Went out, got a Clippers jersey. Pull up in a Clippers jersey. This is some serious hater stuff right now. I love that. Yeah, it's good. If you're going to LA News, you got to show up. Yeah, I like that. It's a Clippers town. Exactly. Right. Everyone knows that. You know that, though. You're always saying that. Yeah. They got the new stadium, Balmer. It's a Clippers town. Paul George, basically there for life. Yeah. Yeah.

Kawhi, you're set up. You see the name of the Clippers show? The billboards, they say, the other LA team. I'm like, you guys have a show and it says the other LA team. Yeah, that's sad. That's very sad. So you guys met in your fraternity in Arizona. When did you start doing creative things together? Was it...

I would imagine there was just some hanging out and being frat bros together for a while. We started second half of freshman year, but we took it seriously sophomore year. When we started blackmailing? Yes. That's how we got our rise. Blackmailing. Yeah, I was like, either you're involved or I'm fucking telling them. And I was like, I don't have a choice. I have to tell you. Yeah.

fuck that's actually a part of my take start big cat made me do cocaine that actually is true you guys were joking this is true I also cocaine up his nose it was also the worst blackmail ever because I really wanted to do the cocaine I was psyched that my new friend was offering me and he was like if you don't do this podcast I'm telling you I was like I don't give a shit I turned to the podcast good idea shoved it up his nose and I turned to Hank and I was like we got we got him we so that's awesome because what year was this what

This was 2010. So this is early internet too. Yeah. Not early internet. Not early, early internet, but early enough. Early internet, like YouTube. Yeah, that's the hate of Funny or Die. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's early internet in the fact that today everyone in college has a TikTok and is trying to be a content creator. You guys were doing it before it became something that everyone is doing.

Yeah, back when people would say, what do you mean you're dropping out of school to be a YouTuber? Yeah. That doesn't exist. Wait, did you drop out of school too? I didn't. I finished. Okay. So you kind of always have that over him. Right. I bring it up all the time. Yeah. I love that. You should get paid more. Yeah, I do. He carries his diploma everywhere. When you guys started communications from Arizona,

No different than Harvard. When you're doing shit for YouTube at that time, are you using phones to record things or are you using a camera? It started on a flip cam. Yeah, I had a little flip cam that was like, at the time it was like, for how small this is, this is great quality. Yeah. And that was the first few videos were on that. Then we got a camera.

But you know what's funny about the flip cam? I always think about this. You know how Apple bought flip cam? Did they? They bought flip cam and just ended it. That's crazy. They're like, we don't want any competition. So they bought the company and then just ended the company. I kind of love that. It's such a cool way to do business. It was a crazy baller move. Yeah, just buy your competition and just end them. Some guy spends his entire life perfecting this design for a great product and he's so proud of it. And then finally, like a big payday comes along. He sells it. He's like, okay, your product's dead now.

Yeah. That's business. But I mean, look, what could they have done to Apple? Nothing. Nothing. Yeah. It was kind of annoying. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right. So you guys have been writing together then for almost 15 years. That's pretty cool. Yeah. So how is it like evolved?

your writing styles and just working together because it's, it's like working together for 15 years. That's, that's kind of rare. Like that's not, there's not a lot of writing partners that can do something like that for that long and kind of stay on the same wavelength. You've seen it a million times where guys will do something that's a hit and then kind of splinter off and do their own thing. Yeah. But you guys are still doing it. That's awesome. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Like, has it evolved? Do you guys feel like you've ever had a moment where you're like, Oh, we're,

We're maybe not on the same wavelength or has it been kind of seamless that you've always been a perfect writing partners? No, we've definitely had our ups and downs. Yeah. But I think like working through the, you know, the ups and downs would eventually like makes it like a, I don't know, more secure, stable situation to like, you know, we've had our moments where we were not on the same page about things and took some, some talking out.

But I feel like that's just naturally going to happen with any long-term partnership. And either you kind of split and go your separate ways or you just kind of keep working through it constantly. Well, I imagine being writing partners, that's a very vulnerable thing to do because you're basically saying, my idea is I hope this person thinks it's funny and back and forth and you have to throw out ideas and they're not all going to work. Yeah. I don't think we've ever really gotten to...

Like...

about shooting each other's ideas down when we don't like them, which is kind of cool. Because other people get super personally affected where they're like, ah, I think there's something better. That might be it. They might fuck up their day. We're just like, okay, next idea. Are there moments where one of the two of you is way more passionate about a certain project or a certain element that you're working on than the other? And then how does that work out? Do you just have to say, well, I'm going to trust them if they're more passionate, let's go along? Or is it like, okay, you take the lead, do whatever you want to do on this since you care about it more?

Yeah, I mean, I try to... If he's fired up about an idea and I just don't see it, I just trust that I'm just not seeing it right now. I'm like, he is so fired up about this. I'm going to just trust him and go along with this. Because if it's not a good idea, we will realize it along the way. There's no point in me really hitting the brakes on this. Right. You know what I mean? How was writing the movie? How was there...

You guys, it's obviously been something that you guys have been working on for a very long time, and it's, again, so, so funny. But, like, actually having to put it together, a story that might be the finale, I don't know if you guys have another, but whatever. It's a little bit different, I would assume, writing a movie than a TV show because you have to kind of tie it all together, right? Yeah, it's a lot less time, too.

I think it's like with the season three, we had like 220 minutes total, something like that. Yeah, like 250 or... Yeah, I think it might have been like 270. Minutes total in the season. With the movie, you have half of... Less than half. Right. Yeah. So you have to condense a lot of storylines. You got to kill a lot of your babies. You got to just really keep your time. Yeah, nice. Abortion is huge. We're huge about that. We had to drop that real quick. It is like a lot of...

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

I feel like that would be the worst part for me. Stuff that you've worked so hard on that you thought was so funny. And a lot of times it probably is very funny material. And then having to just cut it for the sake of brevity and losing out on all that effort that you put into it. That must be tough. That was definitely the hardest thing about the movie. Just because it was less time and it did start as a show. So it was a lot of like, how do we make this a movie? That was like...

That was definitely the hardest thing about making the movie. Yeah. Because we shot it in 10 days. 10 days? Yeah. That was a hustle. What? That was a hustle. Like on day one, were you organized, ready to go? Yeah. I feel like most times when you plan out all this stuff perfectly, you sit down and you spend the first like four hours bullshitting anyways. And you're like, oh shit, that's four hours out of our 10 days that we have budgeted gone.

No, there was no bullshitting when we were shooting. No, there's no time for bullshitting. Like you show up, you have a schedule, you know, it's like we need to shoot, we need to shoot this, this, this, this, and this today. We have this, we have to be done by this time. There's a whole regimented schedule, but then you show up and they're like, oh, it's raining on Thursday. So that got fucked. Yeah. And that actor's schedule was only lined up for Thursday. So now we need to figure out when they're available. And then it ended up like the schedule, we ended up shooting like four days, one week, one day, another week. And then like,

three two it was it was like the map everything around the budget and like how much time you have and how much money you have and then also like even though we were dialed the fuck in on day one we still had like actors we needed to cast we had roles we had to keep moving we couldn't stop the train my number jimmy you said what oh but we said you got the facts yeah we didn't have anybody could have been there like we were desperate for two actors yeah we needed a short guy and a big guy yeah

We need to figure out... Podcasting is the future, so we've got to figure out two podcasts. The problem was... Look. I wasn't going to ask you guys to fly across the country to say what would have been literally...

Align You know, yeah guys are busy guys I mean we would never travel anywhere to burn a day just like hanging out and drinking beer with you guys have any enemies because we tried but the up top they were like no we can't we can't yeah we do a lot of big Hollywood maybe yes, yes Hollywood is not they don't really understand us or like us we went I

Dave and I went and pitched Hollywood the Barstool Rundown in 2014, and we went into probably about 10 different rooms, like Comedy Central, HBO, Showtime, walked out of every single meeting like, we fucking crushed that. Not even a single call.

Damn. Yeah. So then we realized that's probably not our cup of tea. Yeah, we tried, but the studio was like, not those two. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm not hot enough to sexually harass. So they see me and they're like, I have no use for this guy. That happens a lot, man. Yeah. I mean, I'm so pumped for this movie, though. How long did it take you guys to write it? It took us longer to write it than it did to shoot it. Well, I hope so.

He shot it in 10 days. We shot it. We wrote it in a day and a half. Yeah. In a day and a half. We did the, the Tyler Perry business model. Um,

No, we wrote it over the course of like five months. But it was like on and off, like halfway through. I like went to Atlanta. We were doing it over Zoom. I think if we were sitting down every single day together for like eight hours, I think we could have done it in under half that time. For sure. Two months, for sure. Also, if you didn't move out, right? Because you moved out.

He moved out, right? You moved out? Didn't you guys live together for a long time? Oh, we did. That was a while ago. Yeah, but then he moved out, right? Right. Right, yeah. Right, so he shouldn't have done that. You're just bringing up old wounds for me. I wasn't ready for this. Wait, did you live together when the bees attacked you? No, that was two houses later. Okay, two houses. Yeah. Those bees were gnarly.

I think we've asked you about the bees every episode that you've been on. Like, how are the bees doing? You're like, I haven't seen those bees in years. Stop talking about the bees. I haven't thought about the bees in a minute, actually. You're a huge bee guy. I'm a big bee guy. I was actually, I saw, you know that movie, The Beekeeper with Jason Statham? Yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but I saw the billboard and I was like. That's me. Called my agent. I was like, what the fuck?

I don't ask for a lot. Yeah. But you're telling me they did the beekeeper and I didn't even audition? Yeah. I mean, are you interested in doing like action roles where you just kick everyone's ass? I would love to do that. Yeah. That seems like it'd be a very, very fun genre movie to film. So Marvel drops the bee man. Oh. You want it to be you? The beeman? If it wouldn't, if it wasn't,

I'd be hurt. Yeah. Yeah. Christian, you're getting an insight into our interview style and how stupid we are that we're like, Hey Jimmy, how about those beats? This is a serious question. That reminds me, speaking of a big Hollywood business meetings. Right. Um, what's going on with boner dogs? I mean, yeah, so we're, we're working on it. Yeah. And pre-production. Boner dogs. Yeah. We have a movie. Uh, you, you actually, we'd love to have you as a writer. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm attached. Can I have the pitch? Loosely attached. Do you want to hear the pitch? Yeah, can I hear it? Okay, so it's like Hansel and Gretel combined with Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer. It's a cartoon. And one of the dogs has a boner the whole time. Oh, shit. And that's pretty much... It's in pre-production. They get lost in the Arctic...

And they're like, how are we ever going to find our way back? And this guy's like, dude, my boner's been dragging this whole time. So his nose isn't red, it's just a dick. No, it's a dick. It's a dick. And then all the other dogs make fun of him because they don't have boners. Right. And they're like, ew, what's that gross lipstick thing? Right, right, right. Is he insecure about it? Yes, he is at first, but then it becomes a tool for power at the

Wow. He realizes, oh, I'm not so weird after all. I can use my differences to actually make a difference. That's the kind of message I feel like kids today really would resonate with. Stay hard, kids. Right? Yeah, there you go. Exactly. Just tuck him up into your waistband. Oh, yeah, that's the boner dog. Isn't he cute? Oh, wow. Yeah, there he is. So,

Obviously, when I heard this pitch... We just bring PFT's laptop and we're like, see? Yeah, yeah. I've been attached, I think, for, what, six years now? Are you playing the dog? No. No. Who do you guys got attached? I think he's the voice of the boner. Oh, yeah. I thought Adam Sandler was the voice of the boner. No, I thought Will Ferrell was the voice of the boner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Will Ferrell was the voice of the boner. But obviously, they told me this pitch...

you know, 2018, I said, this is a home run. I'm in. Actually, I think I started off as loosely attached. But then I saw the names that you guys had involved, and I was like, this is going to be a huge project. So we pitched probably 12 different comedians when they come on the show. Like David Spade, a bunch of people that would sit down with us would be like, okay, here's a pitch for Boner Dogs. And then finally we interviewed Adam Sandler. And it was him and Kevin Garnett at the same time. And so everyone was expecting us to pitch Adam Sandler because we'd been talking about this –

Adam Sandler movie with Boner Dogs for years. So instead we just pitched Kevin Garnett. That's fine. And then Adam kept trying to jump in and be like, not right now, Adam. We're talking business. And then he was like, I'm in. Adam Sandler told us he was in. A little behind the scenes, we apparently had like an actual deal in the works with Happy Madison to make this into a series on Netflix. And then all of a sudden I just stopped hearing about updates. Well, not all of a sudden. We interviewed Rob Schneider. It didn't go well. That might have had something to do with it. Oh, really? Yeah.

Well, I thought it went well. Was this recently? Was this part of his recent tear? It was like right at the beginning of it. He's got a tear. We interviewed him and he didn't laugh at one part of the interview. It wasn't even like a big problem with the interview. It was just like a minor thing that didn't get that great reaction. It was a stupid joke. One of our guys wrote a blog that is clearly tongue-in-cheek that was like every time Rob Schneider releases a big movie, an oil spill happens.

But if you look at it, like, if you actually want to look at it, like, there's an oil spill all the time. Yeah, you connect the dots. Yeah, right. So that was the joke. And yeah, it didn't land. If he didn't laugh, that means he's hiding something. That actually does happen. He's like, how'd they find out? They know. Those fuckers. Yeah. They know about the oil. If you're taking flack, it means you're over the right targets. So he didn't react to it at all. And then afterwards...

This is crazy. This is a real story. Like maybe, maybe four people online, maybe four, it could be less than that, responded to the tweet that we put out promoting the episode. And they said, like, Rob Schneider sucks. Maybe four people said that. Then we heard behind the scenes through RPR people that he wants us to delete the entire interview and take it down and act like it never happened.

And then we're like, well, no, we're not going to do that. Some people liked the interview. It wasn't bad. We didn't walk away from the interview being like, this guy hates us. Yeah, we never even thought it was. Doing it, we didn't think that anything was wrong. And so he threatened litigation on us. And eventually we were just like, we're not going to take it down. We'll delete that one tweet if there's people responding to it that are making you angry. So here's what I'm thinking. So then Boner Dogs died. I know I'm not writing on this film yet, but if I was, here's my pitch. We make the new antagonist, the villain, a big oil tycoon, right?

Oh, yes. I like that. Schneider Robson. Yeah. Okay. Yes. He's a mean guy. Listen, let's defend Rob Schneider for a second. There's a chance he doesn't. I don't think he killed the movie, but there's a chance he could have killed the movie because he cares about the environment and he didn't want another oil spill. Hmm.

Yeah, that's a fair point. He was like, I can't keep doing this. Right. Especially with this dog being in the Arctic. Right. Ice knocking and all that. Right. Yeah. So one of the ideas that we had was to have it be like an Olympics event where each team is made up of like the Irish Wolfhounds are a bunch of

Irish drunks. And then tiny dicks. Yeah. A little tiny dicks. Everyone's got tiny dicks, but then you could have like these, you could just do stereotypes of people from those countries as all the competitors. Yeah. And then the mutts, that's the boner team. That's the team with the boner dog. The mutts ends up saving the day, even though they're not allowed to compete in this big race. Right. And they have to call him out at the last second. Cause they're like, we need somebody with a boner to help. And none of us have them. Shit. Yeah. People love stereotypes. Yeah.

They do, yeah. What's your favorite stereotype? Oh, man, I got a bunch. I'm going to tell you. Let's do Mount Rushmore stereotypes. Mine's Iowa, maybe Casio. I'm trying to think of other electronics companies that make stereos, and this joke isn't going well. No, it's going. Keep going. No, that's it. I'm out. JBL guy? JBL. Sonos? I was thinking maybe Sonos. Actually, Sonos, I got a fucking bone to pick with Sonos.

Sonos. Yeah, go off. I agree with you. You guys have Sonos? Speak on it. We always do this with our guests. We're like, hey, do you want to say anything about Sonos? I got something to say about Sonos. Okay, great. Drop that shit. Figure it out, guys. What's up with this app? Why do I need the app to play the music? I agree. And if you're going to require me to have the app to play music, at least make the app good. Yes.

You know? I can be able to go on my Spotify and just click a speaker. Yep. You can do it with everything else. Go off. If you're going to require me to have an app, make the app good. Tell them. Just hire somebody on Fiverr. It's not that hard to fix the app. Yeah. Also. The app is the problem. The interface is internal. You have to open the app. Yeah. And then you have to open your Spotify. Yeah. And it makes no sense. The connection is not seamless between those two. Yeah. I just don't play music in my house.

It's, and then recently, it's the whole spirit. Yeah. It's just killed. It's killed it all. Dang.

My kids have never heard a song. I haven't listened to a song in two years. My kids don't even know what music is. They play me something. There's just too many apps in general, and Sonos is a perfect example. They had an app that kind of worked, and you got used to it. You got used to their fucked up app, and then they have to update it and change it because they want to make it look like the next generation of apps or whatever. Now it's fucked up, and no one can use it. You think Big Sonos is low-key trying to make people hate music? Yeah. I think they're anti-podcast. Damn.

I think that's why they're doing it. It all comes back to us. Not narcissists, again. I would imagine J.J. Reddick had something to do with this. Probably, yes. Son of a bitch. Dude, he's going to... You think it's going to work? We like J.J. J.J.'s actually a friend of ours. I think... So we have to be careful. I'm optimistic. I think there's a chance. What do you think about LeBron saying that he didn't have anything to do with the process even though he did a four-month interview on a podcast with him? Funny. Okay. Yeah, it is funny.

Raises some questions for sure. That's one way to say it. Maybe some collusion there. But you've always been a LeBron over Kobe guy. Yep. You're big on that. He's big on that. He'll die on that. You know what I mean? This is tough. This slander is tough. Look, I was happy to get him.

I just don't want to be the team that drafts Bronny just for the novelty of having the father and son. It's happening, yeah. Yeah, I know, but it'll be cool for a game, and then it's like, well, fuck it, we just ruin our future just to have Bronny. It's going to be a real-life Xander and Hawk where they draft Bronny Jr., and he gets in, and he's way worse than his dad. He looks older. He's somehow older. His body's breaking down on him. What do you think?

What is Bronny going to say, like, on the court? Is he going to be like, screen left, dad?

Yeah, like, is he going to say dad? Yeah, like, is he going to say dad? Damn, I don't know. And how do you talk shit back to people? Right. If someone's, like, you know, says something about him being his son, and he's like, no, I'm not. Yeah. Yeah. No, you are, man. Fuck. Damn. You have to eat those. That's going to happen a lot. Yeah. But I was just thinking about that. Yeah, like, does LeBron do, like, the passive-aggressive, you know, how he always, whenever a teammate fucks up and he, like, yells at them, does he do that to his son?

For sure, you have to. You got to give it to everybody. Does he spank him? Yeah. You might ground him right there. Misses a three. Get over here. He's like, he's going to do it again. We see Bronny missed a shot. Jimmy, real quick, I want to glaze for a second because...

Like when we first had you on in 2018, we've talked about this before, but Hank was a big fan. We didn't know who you were. That's a bad job by us. But we're like, yeah, let's do it. And then it became a real friendship and you've been on a bunch of times. And it's pretty damn awesome to see like your career take off. How much money do you think you owe us? I don't even want to get into that because...

It's a lot. Yeah. You know? Like, we have certain guys that we feel like they're – it's a different connection because it's like we liked them before maybe they're – you were already big, but, like, the next – like, Josh Allen is up there for us because we were on Josh Allen before he even got drafted. Who else? Brooks kind of won a bunch after. I think he had one major. I like this conversation because it's like Jimmy was already –

massively successful but because we discovered him to ourselves we touched him then we're like now we own you because we just found out about yeah you could we're kind of the podcast illuminati not narcissist come on yeah yeah i mean yeah there's i i mean since i've been on it just there's the in the industry plant allegations yeah it just they've just been going around yeah industry plan i'm like i just you know

I just like going on part of my take. Christian, you're about to feel this. You're going to be the next Bobby Althoff. This is where it happens? Yeah. That's what I'm trying to be. Bobby Althoff's on my vision board. This is my year, man. This is it. But yeah, it has been awesome. I mean, both you guys watching this become a movie, it's fucking awesome. Because this is the comedy. Actually, there's a real question. Do you guys think that...

comedy movies are going to make a little bit of a comeback because we have had a lull. Like it has, whether it be with Shane and what he's doing, like it does feel like we're finally getting back to a point where we can start making like truly funny comedy movies. Cause we had that run in the early two thousands, you know, wedding crashers and, and anchorman and like all that stuff that was like truly hilarious movies and,

And there's been, it's almost been a void of it. Yeah. I will say like, there's a gazillion things I love about the movie we just made, but like every month that goes by ever since, like, you know, we've been deep in the editing process and I see the lack of comedies coming out or I see the movies coming out that are kind of comedies and I watch them and I feel like they're mid and lacking in comedy. I get so fucking excited for ours to come out. Right. Yeah.

I'm like, fuck yeah, the world needs this. - It's kinda good for you in that way. - Yeah. I mean, I was not even thinking about like how good it is for us, just like people. I want people to like laugh at some shit, but it's just for laughs. - And it does feel like the pendulum's swinging back to that where it's like, hey, we can start making, you know, shows and movies that are just, hey, they're funny and they don't have to be deep in any way. - Huge, super high stakes, dark. - Right. - It's like all the comedies for a while have gotten like just so serious. - Right. - Where you're like, is this really a comedy?

comedy. There's a couple moments where I laughed. Just because I laughed doesn't mean it's a comedy. I laughed at Sopranos the whole time. I think Sopranos might be a comedy. Sopranos might be a comedy. If it had a laugh track on it, it'd be the funniest show on TV. Sopranos is hilarious, actually. But yeah, I'm also... It's going to be nice to just have a just-for-laugh type of movie out there, and I do think that the industry is starting to finally go...

Oh, yeah. Maybe we can make some low stakes, just solid, straight through comedies that aren't trying to unpack serious issues right now. That's really what it is. It's like, can we just make a comedy that just lives as, hey, this was really fun to watch? That's okay to do. I feel like we've lost it a little bit.

bit. Yeah, when you put a comedy on, you drop your guard. Right, yeah. When you put on like The Hangover or some shit, you're like, oh, your guard just goes away. Right. And I'm ready to just immerse in this and laugh. It's ready to laugh. And you feel better after it's over, too. Yep. You just get all the laughs out and it like elevates your mood. So yeah, The Hangover, I think, is probably the last

massively successful comedy, right? Yeah. The Hangover. Have you watched The Hangover recently? I did literally on Sunday. It's one of the best movies of all time. Beat for beat. It's so good. It's so funny. It's like a perfect comedy and it also looks incredible. Like it's Todd Phillips, the guy who made Joker. You know, it's like the shots, The Hangover is beautifully shot and also just, it's really well done. You're like, man, if TikTok was out when this movie came up,

like came out, all of these moments were, I'm like, oh, I knew this whole Wolfpack speech, the whole song he sings to the tiger. There's so many iconic moments from that movie. Yeah, no, it's true. So this is going to be massive. You guys are going to have a big hit on your hands and then you're going to be A-listers. And then at that point, are you going to do the thing where you become like serious movie stars at that point? Are you going to turn your backs on comedy? Are you always in comedy?

I'm not going to drop out of the boner dog project. I'll tell you that right now. I'm not one of those. Here's another way to put it. Christian, when do you think Jimmy's going to change his phone number and not tell anyone?

He just got back from Japan and I think he's about to do it. Yeah. I don't know what that Japan trip did to him. Because I'm waiting for the day where I text him and it just goes green. It goes green? Yeah. I think he's about to be there. Like that's the last I'll talk to Jimmy. How many part of my texts have you done? It's like probably five. I think it's like six or seven. Yeah, it might be. I think that's about the time you switch your number up. Yeah, this is probably it. I actually have been insistent on not changing my number. My number got leaked when we were in college.

By someone in El Paso. They put me in a group chat with like 90 people and said, everyone say hi to Jimmy Tate's room. And then for like months, I would just get blown up. And this was before it was easy to block people on iPhones. So I had to like call Verizon every time and be like, hey, I have this number I need to block. And at one point I was like, hey, can I block El Paso?

block El Paso, Texas. Block a city, dude. But I was, I was set on not changing my number. So I kept that same number. And now you get those spam calls. You just go boom, boom, block. Yeah. Have you gotten the calls where you pick up and it's somebody else that's in your phone book and then they're acting like you called them too?

That's happened to me like six times in the past year. You pick up and you think it's a call from somebody that you know. And then you're like, hello. And they're like, hello. I'm like, you called me. And they're like, no, you didn't. You called me.

Who is it? It's just like they... It's happened before when we've been sitting in the room together. Here it goes right now, bro. Yeah, where we'll be like, are you calling me right now? It's like, no, are you calling me? And we're just sitting across from each other. Really? Yeah. And why do people do that? For fun. Yeah. It's actually a great joke.

Well, there was that whole TikTok trend that went around that was like, call someone and then you're like, hey, I actually got to go right now. And they're like, what? No, you called me. And you're like, sorry, I can't talk right now. And they're like, huh? Yeah, that's kind of what they're doing. But they don't get to really listen to it. So it's really just like, I'm inconveniencing somebody. This is funny.

Which is really the core of comedy. You guys know that. That's the frontline martyrs of comics right there. That's like when you made your voicemail. Hello? Yeah, that's a good bit too. Hold on one second. I still get got by that. I'm kidding. I get so pissed. You feel like a dog getting faked out by a tennis ball. You're just like, God damn it.

Why did I chase that ball? It's not there. Damn it. Who are your guys' first comedy experiences that you got into as kids? Were you too young for the jerky boys and the prank calls? I remember the jerky boys. The jerky boys. They were big prank calls. They would just record prank phone calls, and then they became super famous. Oh, I don't know.

I was a big, like you're talking about internet people? Yeah, just like whoever you're, like when you're a kid. Who would laugh at? Do you remember seeing a comedian being like, this is awesome, I want to do that? Oh yeah, for sure. Chappelle was that for me. Chappelle's show, I was like, this is brilliant. Like as a kid, I mean, you should like record episodes on blank VHS and watch them over and over again. Yeah. Chappelle's show, SNL. Yeah. I liked SNL. I liked the digital shorts. Like when Andy Samberg started doing digital shorts, I was like,

I was like, Ooh, I like this. Yeah. Whatever this is. I like this. Yeah. Yeah. I like my TV a lot. Yeah. Mad TV was Will Sasso. Oh, all that. All that was huge. Yeah. And then that was just like funny for the sake of being funny and like silly and goofy. I was about it. Yeah. Yeah. Mad TV. There was that stretch where mad TV felt like, uh,

It's like you almost were doing something like wrong because it was, you know, SNL was the established thing and Matt TV would, would take more risks. You're like, yeah, they'd be a little edgier. Yeah. That's kind of cool. Yeah. I'm a bad-ass mad TV fan. Yeah. Yeah. That felt good. Um, all right. This has been awesome. Row back question. R H O B A C K.com. Promo code take 20% off. First purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. So July 5th, real bros. See me Valley out on Roku. Um,

What do we got next coming down the pipeline? After that? I mean, that's the main thing right now. But do we have another thing? Well, let me ask it a different way. Is Jimmy A-list yet? Is he B-list? I think he's A. I think he's A. A-minus? No, I think he's like maybe second team. Second team A? Second team A, yeah. Double A? I'm definitely not A. Third team A?

I think he's second team all A. I appreciate that, but... You drive a Tesla. That's true. That's kind of A. That's pretty A. You're going on vacation with Sean White. He's dating somebody. Miles Teller. Give him a big up. You know what I mean? Yeah. Did you go on vacation with Miles Teller? No, I didn't. Oh. I didn't make it to that one. Who did you go on vacation with? Someone famous. Yeah. Who was it?

Does that make you more famous though? Yeah, I think so. I think that's the, like when you're on vacation, when you're like in the South of France, it's like, Oh, it's Jimmy and Bradley Cooper. Right. Oh fuck. Those are the circles. Right, right, right. Yeah. And we just, the three of us just sit at home and be like, yeah, we used to know that guy.

Right, right. But they did crop them out of all the photos, which was weird. That's true. Yeah. That one hurt. That one hurt. Just being in the photos but not tagged, you know? Right, yeah. We couldn't find you, yeah. What the hell were you doing in Japan?

So I just got back last night. Yeah. This is going to sound like a lie, but my brother is on the Team USA deaf volleyball team. Okay, go on. Wait, deaf or deaf? Deaf. Deaf. Yeah, so. Is your brother deaf? He's like 50%. Sounds like he's cheating. No, so there's a threshold. Hold on a second. You have to submit a hearing test.

In order to be qualified as deaf enough. I'm pretty deaf too, actually, but I didn't qualify. Wait, a hearing test. Could you just be like, I didn't, what? You can't fake it. My mom's an audiologist. I had this argument with her like two days ago about being able to fake a hearing test. She said, you can't do it. I said, I could do it. She said, yeah, you literally just have to say what? Well, there's two types of hearing tests. Okay. So like if they don't match up perfectly, they know you're lying. Got it. And it's hard to, it's hard to fake it. Got it.

Got it. But your brother figured out a way to fake it. Yeah. So, but yeah, he's like 50% deaf. You have to take your hearing aids out. But it was the World Championships of Deaf Volleyball in Okinawa. Wow. So I was out there supporting John Petro. Nice. The team captain. Did they win? For Team USA. Well, he was the team captain? He was the team captain, yeah. Was that because he can hear the most? Right?

Right? That's a real question, right? No, he's not. I think he's not. There's people who can hear more than him. Okay. How did we do? We did all right. Oh, no. We definitely are qualifying for the Olympics in Tokyo. This is when people say the end of the empire of U.S., like when we lose death volleyball. I don't know.

No, I mean, Eastern Europe, they have volleyball in lockdown. Also, if you think... You could tell that, like, we played Turkey, we played Italy. You could tell those teams have been playing together for a long time. Okay. Our deaf volleyball program is newer here. Okay. We haven't really made an effort. Buy your stock now and USA Dive. Until recently. Okay, okay. So we will be, I think, in the next few years...

Now that Johnny's the team captain. Yeah. You know what you do when you say this is a golden generation. Yeah. I will say Johnny Tatro, A-lister. A-lister. That's a great name. Johnny Tatro. That is a great name. USA men's team captain. Yeah. Actually, we had a beach volleyball duo team for a while called Team Jimmy Johns. Oh. And I got Jimmy Johns merch for us, and we competed in a beach volleyball tournament. Nice. How'd y'all do? Did you guys do well? We got second place, actually.

actually. Wait, I got a question. So wait, your brother's 50% deaf. You said you're kind of deaf? I'm like not 50%, but I've worn hearing aids since I was four. Okay. And your mom's an audiologist? And my sister's an audiologist. How did that... Is that like...

How did that work out? Is that a chicken and an egg? When did she become an audiologist? She became an audiologist before we had hearing losses, but her parents, her dad had a hearing loss. And I think that influenced her. That's interesting. And then her two kids have hearing losses. Got it. It's genetic. I just have to imagine that the rushes of the world and the teams that are already cheating at the real Olympics, if they're doping their people up, they're definitely cheating at the hearing test. For sure. 100%. I'm out there...

It's funny too because they blow the whistle and they're just holding the ball. Because a whistle, none of these guys out there can hear high-pitched sounds. I can barely hear a whistle. They all have their hearing aids out. When the play is dead, they just kind of keep going. No one stops them. Let them just go. No one's stopping them. You've got to give them a little...

A little wave. That's a very cool move, though, to go all the way to Japan to support your brother. Yeah. I'm proud of him, you know? Yeah. That's a long flight. It was a long flight. That's a long ass flight. Came straight here. You guys ready for it? Yeah, we're going to release this on Friday so people will know how much of a debacle beer games. Oh, yeah. You guys competing? Yeah, we're going to compete. Oh, fuck yeah. We actually got kicked out.

I saw the statement. Yeah, I was saying. What happened? We got kicked out because we threatened to quit. We kept on saying it'd be a real shame if it got canceled. Yeah. And then they, we just shit on it so much that they're like, we don't want you. And then we talked to Will and Taylor and we're back in. It's been a long, this has been a tough games to pull off. Yeah. I don't know if you guys understand what the long term. Tumultuous. Yeah. I've seen some of the headlines. Yes. Yeah. Actually, that probably, if someone claims you're an A-lister, you

You could just be like, well, no, because I competed in the beer games. Yeah, I think this will. Any progress I had made, we're going back a little. Just cancels out the vacation. No, the height of the beer games was Travis Kelsey and Jason Kelsey were going to compete, and Will legitimately thought there was a 30% chance Taylor Swift was going to show up to the four of us competing. Yeah.

So that's where we've gone. I can imagine like Taylor just watching us drink beer and like clapping your hands. Be like, yeah, that was so fast. Good job. Max is competing. Okay. Yeah. Hank is competing. So we're just grabbing everyone off the street. Are you guys going to be last year? We did not compete last year.

are you guys nervous about the events and how it's going to shake out? Yes. Yeah. I mean, we're going up against, this is my wake up alarm, by the way, this isn't like a, you know, get off of the show. No, no, that's okay. Just so you know, the, we're going up against like a bunch of offensive linemen. So we're going to, we heard that's fine. Yeah. Yeah. That's what worries me. But you know what? Let's just have, we'll be the vibes crew. Cause I've seen Taylor chug a beer. Yeah. That was actually the,

The first time I met him was at the Machine premiere. That's how he greets people. He's like, hey, I'm Taylor LeJuan. Aren't you impressed by this? Yeah. We cheers. And he was like, you guys want to chug these? And I was like, I just got here to this premiere, but nice to meet you. Let's chug. And I was still tilting up when his dropped. Yeah. And so that's in my head. There's a chance. There's a very good chance that we're all getting invited to Taylor's house just so he can beat us in beer games. Mm-hmm.

Which I respect that. Like if I were him, I would do the same thing where I'd be like, let me just invite a bunch of people I know I can beat and just boost my ego for a day. If you do that, I'm not coming to your birthday party then. Yeah. This is your birthday party. Yeah, this is his birthday party. That's a fact. But Bakhtiari's in the games and I think that guy can definitely. He can. You know, I've seen him chuck. There's a good chance he tries to fight me because I'm going to get drunk and start talking shit about him.

Yeah, that's a good possibility. I just realized that. But yeah, competing against offensive linemen in beer drinking competitions does not feel like a winning recipe for men of our stature. No. Right. I'd say, you know, guys like us in this size category. You're 5'10"? 5'10". Yeah, me too. Same. This actually is probably the biggest thing.

This is the biggest sporting event. So how do we moneyball this? What's our, yeah. Arizona, like this, you guys are never going to go back to a Final Four. So this is the. Wow. Oh, you don't think so? Okay. No, probably not. Oh, wow. Damn. All right.

I went to Wisconsin, so we stopped two of those. Oh, fuck off. Damn. I don't hate many schools. I hate Wisconsin. We had this debate a while ago. Because of Kaminsky, right? Yeah. It was back-to-back years. Yeah. Yeah. You guys had really – you had better teams. You had teams that – let's just say you had teams that if you were picking teams, you would have picked a lot of Arizona players before Wisconsin players. Yep. Right. That was – We still have – I mean, Aaron Gordon is still going strong. Yeah. True. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. That's awesome. Basically, yeah. Yeah. And he's not the guy that I thought was going to be. I thought it was going to be. What's his name? Aiden? Yeah. DeAndre Aiden. No. And before that, I thought Nick Johnson was going to kill him. Oh, yeah. He didn't do shit. You're not a scout. That's okay. That was weird, dude. My gauge was all off on that one.

Pretty weird. All right. Well, thank you boys for coming on. It's been awesome. Christian, great to meet you. Yeah. You too, man. I've been a fan from afar and we're pumped for this movie. It's going to be, everyone go watch it. Watch it.

And then watch it again. And then leave it on. Leave your house. If you're going away for July 4th, put it on. Repeat. Just have a go. I'd say watch the entire series before you watch the movie. We figure also, everyone, July 5th, you're going to be laying around. You're not going to want to do anything. You go on Roku, you put on the Real Bros movie. Yes. Yeah, perfect. All right. Well, thanks, guys. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. Thank you.

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Kentucky Sports Radio, part of my takeover. We have a big guest coming up in a minute. If you missed the start of the show, we want everyone to just remind us that we are ball knowers if you call in.

Because we were the first to put Coach Cal in the hot seat, and then everything that we said was going to happen turned out to be correct. Exactly right. Nostradamus. If you had listened to us seven years ago, you would be much happier right now. You'd be in a better place. Right. Better place. So we do know Ball. Yes. Shannon, has he called back in? Do you want to try to call him? Oh, maybe Shannon's talking to him. You might be talking to him. That sounds good. I feel like that's good. Okay, here we go. All right, so...

For the first time ever in Kentucky sports radio history, we want to welcome on a friend of ours who's been on part of my take. He's a legend in the state of Kentucky. He's a horse racing aficionado. It is St. John's head basketball coach, Rick Pitino. Coach, are you there? I am. Good to be with you guys. It's great to hear from you. Uh,

We're very excited to have you on. So we've hosted this show eight years in a row whenever Matt is on vacation. And we were the first to say that Cal was on the hot seat eight years ago. So today has been a victory lap for us. And we thought there's no better guy to have on to pump up Big Blue Nation, your relationship with Mark Pope, than Coach Rick Pitino. So let's start there. I have some St. John's questions as well. But what are we getting out of Mark Pope as a basketball coach?

Well, obviously I'm extremely biased because he was my captain of the national championship team and was a great captain, a tireless worker. And I absolutely love him and what he did for our program. But that being said, when I was not working, I traveled out to see him coach a small school, division one school on the grand Valley or something, something like that. And I was blown away for how good a teacher he was and,

And then I watched every game I could at BYU and loved their offense. It was great ball movement, great player movement. And I just think Mark does a fabulous job at communicating with his players. He has a great way about it. And he has a quality that very few of us have. He has incredible humility. And for somebody who, at a very young age,

just as a tireless work and is accomplishing things. He's always maintained the same humility that he had back when he was a player. And Mark would, you know, obviously guys like Antoine and those guys, all guys from inner cities and my language wasn't the greatest either, but every day would Mark, if he made a mistake, he would say frick and constantly frick, frick, frick. And finally, after a week of this, I said, Mark,

I can tell you whatever God that you pray to, he knows what you mean. So why don't you just say it or drop it? It's just words. Yeah. It doesn't matter if it's a, if it's an R, if it's a U, I think the message is getting across. When they hired Mark Pope, you, you were saying that, you know what, it might be time for Rick Pitino to cut a check to Kentucky's NIL program. Is that something that you're actually considering doing?

Well, I actually cut a check to the football program because I'm a casual friend of Mark and Eddie Gran, and I cut a check to the football program. But I would definitely cut a check if Mark needs me for anything,

no matter what, except for my first born Michael, he can have it. I absolutely love Mark and would do anything for his program. I always called University of Kentucky Camelot for me. I never had a bad year, never had a bad day. They treated me like a king. They treated me with great respect.

So I only had, obviously, I didn't get treated great when I was at Louisville, but sitting back on it and examining it today, I totally understand why. So I am very, very fond of the University of Kentucky, rooting for football. I sent the baseball coach a text wishing him good luck.

So I'm very bullish on Mark and the football program and hope they do great. I love it. And I think the thing that Kentucky basketball fans should be excited about, and maybe you can speak to this more, is Kentucky basketball in the last few years now, obviously Cal had success at the beginning of his run, but in the last few years it feels like the actual success

coaching X's and O's, maybe wasn't there all the time. Mark Pope, if you watched him at BYU, the guy knows how to coach basketball. And maybe you could speak to this specifically, but being able to coach guys and put them in the best sets to be able to draw up winning plays at the end of games, I feel like Mark Pope is the perfect guy for that.

He is. Look, Mark Pope is, he tried to become a doctor and it wasn't his niche. Mark Pope was a Rhodes Scholar candidate and he's just an extremely bright person and combining his credentials about being bright, he's an excellent teacher of basketball. He also has, you know, he was also a terrific basketball player that got the maximum of his abilities because he gave it all every single day. Great leader. He showed great leadership. Everybody in the team just jumped

thought he was the best guy in the team in terms of never said a negative word about a teammate, never said a negative word about his coaching staff, loyal to the point that you couldn't quite believe it. And his wife and children are the same way, just wonderful, wonderful people. And, you know, look, Hal did a terrific job. But what happens with a lot of coaches, I mean, there are exceptions to the rule. I think Bill Self and I think Mike Krzyzewski, you know, you run out of –

familiarity breeds contempt. You're there a long time. You get a little stale. You need another journey. And so everybody, this is now Mark Pope's time. And Cal was great for the University of Kentucky. He brought them a lot of success. And we wish him certainly well at Arkansas. And now it's time to move on and have a whole different brand.

Yeah. Yep, you said it. Coach, do you have any message for the Kentucky fans that are listening right now? I don't know if you've had an opportunity to address them over the last few years here, but we've got a lot of them listening right now that care about you, that care about the program. Look,

I love the Kentucky fans to me are very, very special. They treated me, my family, with great reverence. I got nothing but great things to say about the Kentucky fan. I totally get it today why they were bitter at me going to the University of Louisville. I was going back because the reason I was going back is I loved Kentucky so much from my UK days and wanted to relive that love of Louisville

love of the sport. But right now they have a fabulous program with all sports. And I think that's going to be a special, special event

time for Mark Pope and the University of Kentucky Wildcats because I think he's, I think the fans are going to fall in love with Mark. Yeah. Because the thing about him, the Pope didn't matter. The name on the back never mattered to Mark. He could care less about individual glory, could care less about if anybody mentioned that he played a great game. It's always about team. It's always about Kentucky. And Jeff Shepards and Ron Merses and Mash Burns and all those guys that I coached

It was always about Kentucky, Pelfrey, Bell House, Farmer, all about them. And I used to always kid those guys in the locker room. They always gave every time they put the jersey on, Pelfrey would tear up. And I'd say, something wrong with you, John? You're not feeling well? He said, no, every time I put that uniform on, I just can't believe I'm putting it on. I said, well, get over it, John. We got a big game, man. Yeah, that's great.

Yeah, playing for the name on the front of the jersey is important, especially in today's college basketball. So speaking of that, you have practice in about 20 minutes. How is your team looking this year? Because it looks like you guys added some really talented players. You were right on the cusp last year. It was your first year. How do you feel like this team is going to shape and be put together when you guys start playing ball in November?

Well, we're much bigger. We're 7'1", 7'6", 10'6", 9". Our backcourt, I never thought I'd coach another guard as fast as Peyton Seaver, but I have a young man from Utah, Davion Smith,

who is faster than as fast, if not faster than Peyton Seaver. I have Qadari Richmond from Seton Hall, who was a first team all big East basketball player. I have Simeon Wilshire, who's a sophomore now, who's also a terrific guard. So the backcourt is really strong. The wings are very strong and the centers, although they don't have great experience, are very big, big and talented and athletic. So I'm, I'm really bullish on this basketball team. Uh,

We were supposed to play Kentucky but couldn't work it out. I'm hoping that we can come to Lexington next year for our 30th reunion and Kentucky can come back to Madison Square Garden the following year. I love it. Home and home. Kentucky, quit ducking Patino. I love it. Step up to the plate. Give the people what they want. Coach, are we planning on wearing more suits this year? That's very important for us.

I wore all suits the whole season just about with the exception of a whiteout where I wore a white jacket and jeans. Outside of that, I wore suits the whole year. I like that. It doesn't feel right when you look on the sidelines and you see Coach Patino wearing a polo shirt. We want to see the suits every game, Coach.

I'm definitely going to be in them. And you know what? I believe in it. It's something I've done all my life, so why not continue? Why change? There are certain things you have to change. You have to change the way you coach players today, the way you run your offenses, defenses, treat them off the court as well. But certain things should not change, and that's one of those. Coach, in these spring and summer practices, what are you looking for this early on as you're putting a team together? What are you keying on in practice that's telling you, okay, we could have a good team this year?

You know, I made a mistake last year. I did not have my team ready early in the year because I was just focused on player development, working on their skill development. And I didn't work on a lot of team things defensively. And we were not ready early. We were ready late. And it probably stopped us because the NCAA no longer cared about the last 10 games of the season. They were treating the first 10 equal to the last 10.

So now I understand that. I don't think the net means a whole lot. I think it's really quad one wins, quad two wins, making sure you don't lose like we did to Michigan, a quad three. We never expected Michigan to be a quad three game, but it was.

So I'm going to have the team more ready defensively going into September. I love it. Coach, I have one last question. I missed you. I saw you were at Saratoga for the Belmont Stakes. I was there as well. Yep. How did you do? I hope you did better than me. I lost about $20,000 that weekend.

Not great. Not great. I thought I had figured it out. The one thing you can't do on a horse racing weekend is win the second race of the first day because then you think you got it figured out, and then I don't think I won a race for like 15 races in a row. But how did you do, and what do you got? Do you have some horses coming up? I do. I'm racing tomorrow. I have a horse called Agalos de Great.

who's the name of my agent in Greece. And Agalos the Great is running an aqueduct, getting ready. It's a prep race coming off a long vacation to get ready for a big stake at Finger Lakes. I was, I believe I was two for 22 and getting destroyed. And I went back and tried to renegotiate my contract with St. John's.

But I did get out on the last race when I was leaving. And if you could win the last race, you could cut your losses in half. Yeah. Wait, was it the last last race or the second? I won the second to last race on Saturday that was like a 14 to 1 shot. And I was like, oh, man, maybe I did figure this out.

Yeah, I think it was the same horse. Yeah, it was on the turf. He came out of nowhere. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. That's right. When you have a bad weekend at the tracks, you need to just turn to our good friend Mike Rapoli and be like, come on.

Let's go. I told my wife, I'm never going to the track again. And she said, I've heard that now 1,100 times. Right, right. I'm retiring from horse racing for the rest of the week. That's what I do. And then I wait for the weekend. So you said Aglos the Great, he's racing at Aqueduct tomorrow. What race is he in? Because I might sprinkle a few nickels on him.

You know, I don't know. I think it's the fifth race. I'm actually traveling to Tampa for, unfortunately, for a funeral, and I won't see it. But I know it's, I think it's the fifth race. My other friend, Chris Mara, who owns, his family owns the Giants, he has a horse in the race, and we're betting dinner to see which horse finishes out of who. I like that.

I like high stakes. Coach, I'm actually I'm taking a trip to Greece next week. And I was hoping that you could you could maybe teach me something to say a good phrase to say or any tips about when are you going to be when will you be there? I'm going to be there Saturday through I believe Saturday full week.

I'm going July the 6th to see them try and qualify for the Olympics. I try to help the Federation a little bit there. And you're going to Athens? I'm going to be traveling around a bit. Yeah, Athens and then checking out some of the beaches too.

Great. So obviously you say you have to understand the greetings. They always say Kalimata for good morning, Kalispera for afternoon, Kalanita, that's good night. And you always just by just saying yasas, that's hello, goodbye, palakalo, you're welcome, hello, posise. You get about seven, eight expressions. And of course,

The firm expression that you have to use if somebody cuts you off, Malacca. Okay. Okay. Malacca, got it. I love it. Well, Coach, I know you've got practice coming up. I want to thank you so much for calling in. We're excited about Mark Pope. I'm excited about St. John's this year. Thanks so much, and have a great practice.

All right, guys. Tell Mark I love him. Okay, we will. Thanks so much. That was Coach Rick Pitino calling in to Kentucky Sports Radio. History has been made. Full endorsement. Hatchet buried. Hatchet buried. Well, no, I wouldn't say so. You don't think so? For us, on this day, Rick Pitino is always welcome on this day. Yes.

Thank you to Coach Patino. I told everyone they got to stay tuned in for all the people who usually say they turn it off after two minutes. I think we delivered. You can tell this guy loves Kentucky. Yes. He really cares about the state of Kentucky. And it sounds like he kind of feels bad about going to Louisville.

Yeah. He's like, I get it. Well, maybe he doesn't feel bad, but he understands the hate that he got from Louisville. Yeah, and so it's good to see that everything's being mended, and he's clearly rooting for Mark Pope as are we. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll finish up Hour 1. We also want to hear from you, Kentucky sports fans, 859-280-2287. That's the Clark Pump and Shop phone number. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be back right after this.

All right, who do we got next? We got Jack on the line. Jack from Oakland. Hey, Jack. What's up, Jack? Jack, what's going on? Hey, guys. How you doing? How you doing? We're good. We're good. So, Jack, we've been taking a little victory lap today because we called Coach Cal's firing eight years ago, and he ended up getting fired. So, you know, we know ball. It all kind of came to a head when they played in the tournament this year. I don't know. Did you catch the game?

Uh, I caught a little bit of it. I caught a little bit. Yeah. So, so basically what happened was Cal has a great team and they go up against Oakland and there's a guy on the other side, Jack Golke, who they just didn't guard. I don't know if you saw that at all. This guy, like if you're, if you don't ball at all, like you would have guarded a guy like Jack Golke, right?

I mean, yeah, like you would think that a guy like me or him that's really just stroking it like that, they would pick him up full pretty much. Yeah. During the second half, were you surprised that they were still letting Jack Golke get these open looks? Yeah, it was kind of like, like I said, pick him up full, like deny every catch and –

Just make it tough for him. Don't let him catch the ball. Don't let him get a shot up because you know the result is going to come from that. Yeah, I mean anybody that watched that who knows ball knew that you should guard Jack Golke. And at this point, me and Big Cat mentioned in the first hour, but Jack Golke kind of could be responsible for the second coming of Kentucky, or I guess the third coming of Kentucky.

when they return to glory in the next five, ten years, do you think that Jack Golke should be present at whatever Kentucky's next banner ceremony is because he was the man that inspired Kentucky to make a change?

I think they should definitely invite him. I hope he gets a warm welcome when they do bring him out and maybe even throw him some of that collective money. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. Oh, I like that. I like that. And then if there's like maybe two radio hosts that inspired Jack Golke to attend that ceremony, they should probably get a cut of that NIL money too, right? Yeah, I think it should probably be split three ways evenly, I would think. Yeah. So, Jack, at what point during that game did you know you were on fire?

Man, it was early. It was early. I saw that green light and I just started gunning. Yeah. Yeah. Have you gone back and do you watch the highlights of that game? I've definitely rewatched the game a couple times. I'd be lying if I said I hadn't. It's a lot of fun. Have you had a moment since where you're like, they really just didn't want to guard me at all? I think, I mean...

i don't know after the game i just kind of re-watched it and i was like there were definitely some open looks i had but at the same time like i think they were they were definitely trying like it was it wasn't like they were just out there walking around you know that actually hurts more because that means you were just better than them in fact something like that hey jack are we i know the answer is probably no but like maybe is there a chance your name gets called today

Man, I got my fingers crossed. I'm not expecting it, but that would be a great surprise for sure. Well, I mean, you can look at Kentucky. There's guys that are coming off the bench at Kentucky that are getting drafted pretty high. You came off the bench, and I think that the formula is right there. You might be picked in the second round. I'm rooting for you, man. And if you don't get drafted, I'm assuming that there's going to be a team that at least invites you in for a look, right?

Yeah, that's the plan right now. It'll kind of all shake out today and tomorrow, honestly, and I'll kind of figure out where I'm going to be headed, hopefully, for Summer League, and maybe I'll see you guys out there. Yeah, absolutely. And, Jack, one last thing, because I think maybe some listeners right now are like, this is a prank. This isn't actually Jack Colkey. Can you explain to us the set of your favorite three against Kentucky that you hit in the first round of the tournament?

Yes, sir. So favorite set. We ran against Kentucky first round of the tournament. The first one I made, it's called UCLA, a side elevator screen, sprint out towards our bench and hit a fadeaway three. I love that. You know, ball, you know, ball. And there's a lot of people in Kentucky that are listening right now. And I hope that maybe you'd take the time to just say, I'm sorry for beating him so badly.

Yeah, I'd just like to apologize that they got their hopes up. I'm not going to apologize for winning. But I know there was a lot of Final Fours in the brackets and champions in the brackets, so I'd like to apologize for that. Okay, big man. All right, well, Jack, thanks so much for calling in. You know we're big fans of you, and good luck with wherever your next spot is for Summer League.

Yes, sir. I appreciate you guys for having me. Take care. See ya. Thanks, Jack. That was Jack Golke. Jack from Oakland. Personal friend of ours. Cool guy. I think we deserve that one after getting Rick Pitino on. Yeah, we can do no... Well, this is the danger that you're running into right now. Me and Big Cat, we feel like we can do a heat check. Yeah, we should have stopped after an hour. We should have walked off and been like, look, we finally repaired our relationship with Big Blue Nation. Instead, we stuck around, and that's when we start to just be like, hey...

We could do anything. It is an abusive relationship that we're in. We just took you out to the nicest dinner that you've ever had at the best Italian restaurant in town. And then right afterwards, we go ahead and cheat on you again. Yeah. All right, we're going to take a break. When we come back, we'll take some more calls. We have Sam Decker and Frank Kaminsky coming up. Okay, let's go to the next caller. All right, let's go to Cliff. Cliff, what's up?

What's up, guys? How we doing? So I'm a little, you guys definitely know Ball. Yes. Thank you, Cliff. Call of the day. Call of the day. Right there. Cliff wins the Don Franklin Auto Call of the Day. That's it. Right there. Just saying we know Ball. It's a great point. Yeah. What do you get? Do you get a free car from that? I think so. Yeah. Okay. Go to the dealership and say, I won Call of the Day. Where's my truck? Yeah. Matt Jones said, I get a truck.

So, and I'm going to take you back just real quick. In 1997, I went to a book signing with Rick Pitino, and he was doing Success is a Choice. And, of course, I'm a UK fan. And as a little boy, I went up to him and I said, hey, you're not going to go to the NBA. And he said, I promise I'm not going to go to the NBA. Okay.

So he lied to me. And I didn't care because we started getting a lot of players to go to Boston, which was fun to watch, you know, UK players go there. But when he went to Louisville, that was a slap in the face. And I don't know if I've forgiven him yet. But today's call, I think you guys finally kind of helped me turn that corner with him.

I want to say thank you for that. But you know Ball, and you know how to get to our heartstrings, too, here in Kentucky, because that was absolutely – it was a great call by him. And hopefully Pope succeeds. You know, we love Pope out here. And go Bills. I love it, Cliff. So little – how old were you in 1997?

I was 14. Okay, so 14-year-old Cliff can finally let go of a grudge, almost a 20-year grudge. Or no, more than a 20-year grudge today. We did that.

Thank you so much for doing that for me. I love it, Cliff. I love it. It's a good moment. I love hearing that because you've been walking around with that tension in your shoulders for this past 20 years is hating Rick Pitino. Now, you know what? He came home. Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Cliff.

Thank you. Yeah, forgiveness is important. For sure. Now, when you did call in and you said, when I was a little kid and I got my books, I thought you were going to say you were six years old. And you said, don't go to the NBA. You were in high school. Yeah. Little kid, but I mean, 14, I mean, I was...

Not driving. So anything below, I guess, 16, I would consider a kid, you know. That's fair. Yeah. I was stupid at 14. I can't believe. Luckily, we didn't have the Internet then, or not like we do now. True. It's a good point. I don't think that you're going to run into that problem with Pope. I feel like this is the job that Pope wants. It's not a stepping stone. He's not going to leave because a chicken farm offered him more money. This is the guy, and he wants to be here.

And I do have a question for both of you. If you could share a story, share a story about Matt Jones, because y'all get to know him a little bit more than we do behind the scenes.

And he doesn't talk about everything. He talks about a lot of stuff. But is there something like a silly story where he tried to fit into something he couldn't fit into? Y'all have a good rest of the day. All right. Thanks, Cliff. That is a call of day. I don't know what story comes up in your head right away, PFT. I want to share the first time that I met Matt Jones. First time I met him, I was living in New York City. Great bourbon in New York. Great racehorses up there.

and I was in my apartment in the West Village, and I get a knock on my door. And I go to my door, and it's this guy with a funky haircut, no sideburns, wearing a Kentucky polo shirt, but he had a clipboard in his hand. I said, how can I help you, sir? He's like, I'm here canvassing for Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Would you like to sign up to be

member of her campaign staff and I said no thank you and then I shut the door on him and then I found out two years later that was Matt Jones he was he was nice as could be in the moment I just didn't feel like talking to him yeah so my that's a great story my first time meeting Matt Jones he actually so it's similar I was minding my own business get a knock at the door two big men in suits put a burlap sack over my head threw me in a van and

And then I ended up at a meeting of the Illuminati. And Matt Jones was there, and he tapped me for the Illuminati, and he said, you're part of us now. I said, I don't want to do this, Matt Jones, please. And he's like, no, if you're in the Illuminati, you're in the Illuminati. So I am part of the Illuminati now because of Matt Jones, so I do have to thank him for that. And I'll say something very nice about Matt. He sells the best adrenochrome. Yes, that's a fact. It is delicious. That's a fact. And I always feel better the morning after drinking.

Thank you, Matt. Kentucky Sports Radio listeners who love Matt, you should know that he is going to live to about 300 years because he's been drinking baby blood for a very long time. Wouldn't you say, Shannon? All this is true. Yeah, it's all true. All of it. Every bit of it.

I wasn't going to be the one to say those things, but I'm glad that you did first. Yeah, Shannon's part of the Illuminati, too. One thing I appreciate about him is he saves all his best radio and his best takes for when he's doing ESPN radio, when he's doing pregame shows in the morning on Sundays. And so a big audience gets to listen to him, and then he goes back on Kentucky, and he's got the leftover scraps for you guys.

Yeah. But he does a very good job on national radio. Yeah. So, no, Matt's a great guy. We've known him for a very long time. He's... Because it's kind of a funny relationship because, in all honesty, he... When we started...

We weren't huge. We had a little bit of a rocket ship with part of my take, but he invited us on to host, and it was one of the funnest days that we have every single year. And he's been a supporter of us. There's been times when it's been hard to be a supporter of us, so we always remember friends like that. And he's a loyal guy through and through, and I think that's...

That's a real thing. The Illuminati is real as well, but Matt is very loyal and he's been a loyal friend for many years. And he does actually care about the state of Kentucky very, very much, very deeply, no matter how big his audience gets. If he's doing TV shows, if he's on get up debating against Stephen A. Smith, whatever the case might be, he cares first and foremost about Kentucky sports. And I, that's never going to change the Matt. I do. He's a very, very nice guy. Yeah. This is actually a real true story. Uh,

And I hope he doesn't get mad at me for this, but I don't think he will. Shannon, Matt obviously talked about possibly dipping his toes into politics, correct? Yes, yes, correct. So when he was thinking about it, he called me and he was like, hey, I'm thinking about this just so you know, if I do end up doing this...

There will be people who will come after me and they will come after you because your association with me. And he was trying to give me a heads up. And I was just laughing the whole time he called me because I was like, dude, you don't think we've heard everything that's been said about us? The people that hate us like this is going to be nothing. I don't know how it's going to go for you. But he was nice enough to like he was thinking of his friends in that moment of like, hey, if I go down this path with politics, it could affect the people in my life. And he was nice enough.

and aware enough to give me a heads up, which I didn't need, that it could be a ripple effect or a waterfall effect, that if he does this, we could be in the crosshairs as well. And I always appreciated that from him. And on his side of that...

I guess equation he was going through on whether or not to pursue politics or not. He got his hands on some opposition research, and he said they will attack you or they will attack me for being friends with a part of my take guys. And never once did it occur to Matt to distance himself or anything like that. He's like, I still love you guys. I'll still defend you. Come on Kentucky Sports Radio once a year.

I like this relationship. So he's a loyal guy. He's not going to turn his back because his back's against the wall. Yeah, this is actually turning into a sappy Matt Jones segment, but it's a great point because there's been... We've had, through the course of our podcast and when we were on TV for one episode...

We've had people who we thought were our friends not be our friends and not defend us. And Matt Jones is the opposite. He's someone who has always defended us and never been ashamed of his relationship with us. And as you get older...

and you realize that there are a lot of people that will be nice to your face but not nice when you're out of the room, it's guys like Matt Jones who are the authentic guys who you got to hold on to those guys because those are the real ones. Yeah, whenever Matt needs a favor, we are there for him.

him yeah this is shannon is this disgusting i mean yeah i'm like come on should we go to a break now and end this now all right all right so right right now matt gross right right now matt's listening he's probably crying and he's on his his yacht with greta thurnberg and they're sailing across the atlantic ocean right now and he's listening on satellite radio uh and so matt just know that everything that we just said about you we were just saying because you pay us uh what is it this year like five hundred thousand dollars to host

Kentucky Sports Radio each year. I think it works out to something like $10,000 a minute. Well worth it. You guys cut me in a little bit. Yeah, we can cut you in a little. We'll let the beak...

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Let's wrap up the show with Firefest. Henry? Yes. What is your Firefest of the week? I mean, we can kind of recap the beer games. My Firefest is pretty much all beer games related. The hangover that it caused me has set me back maybe lifetimes, maybe years have fallen off my life. You have a terminal hangover? I have so far. It's been two rough days. Yesterday was rough, but the first day is expected. Oh, what happened yesterday?

Yesterday, I was just really, really hungover. We had to travel. We got to the airport. I left my wall in the Uber. We had to wait. Okay, you're going too fast. You're going too fast. I'll explain why I'm saying that.

Yesterday we had to work. We had to travel to Cincinnati to interview Joe Burrow, which is coming out Monday, July 8th when we're back from break. Just another reminder, we're going on break this week. We'll have Dungeons & Dragons on Monday. We'll have our Dingers Only draft with Gunnar Henderson joined the show quickly before on Wednesday. And we'll also update any NBA free agency that show day. And then Joe Burrow on that Monday.

So we all were very hungover from beer games. Beer games was a lot of fun. I'm happy with my retirement. It was a lot of fun to hang out with the boys. The hangover and the getting beat up in the pool was not as much fun. The hangover anxiety is the worst part. I get tremendously anxious the morning after, and it's gotten so bad that now I give myself a pre-hangover before I start drinking. So before I start drinking, I think to myself,

oh my God, I'm going to be so hungover the next day. I'm going to have all this anxiety. Then that gives me anxiety going into it. So it's like just thinking about drinking now gives me anxiety, but I still love it. Yeah. It was fun. It was fun hanging out with the boys. I did want to go home around 4 o'clock in the afternoon, but that could have been at a bar down the street from my house, and I would have been like, I'm ready to go home. Yeah.

It was fun. You had fun, Max? Yeah, it was very, very fun. We were talking a lot of shames on it before.

But looking back, it was great. It was great. It was great. Second with the boys. The second I showed up and Waka Flocka was in the building, I was like, this is going to be the best thing ever. And it was. Shout out David Bakhtiari. I know we said it on Wednesday. He's the man. So is Graham Glasgow. So is Quentin Nelson. Yeah. They're all, like, everyone was awesome. The boys. It really was. It was. It was the boys. It was the boys hanging out. Everyone there was the boys. Having a great time. Saw Chris Long. Chris Long, who we love. Dr. Fax. Yeah. Yeah.

All of it was a blast. But so the one part that wasn't a blast was waking up the next day, super hungover in Nashville, having to go to Cincinnati. Hank woke up. We got like an hour of Hank energy at lunch.

Then we got to the airport. You know, when we burned the Hank energy, we went out to lunch and that place had a line. And then we had to turn back and abandon that lunch plan. And at that point, Hank switched. Yeah. The first inconvenience. He was like, well, I tried. We got to go to gumbo. He had he had like good hyper like I'm I'm OK energy for the first hour of the day.

And then from that moment on, he just was a zero because we got to the airport. We get ready to our pilot. Yes, we flew private. I know that sounds crazy, but we were we had to go Nashville since he since he's Chicago all within like a five hour spot. But we're sitting there ready to go. And our pilots like, all right, here we ready to go. Let's get on the plane. And Hank stands up. He's like, I don't have my wallet.

He had left his wallet in the Uber to the airport. That delayed us like 45 minutes. Really had no remorse. He made it our problem, actually. Yeah, he kind of was just like, whatever, guys. That's not true. I just went and hid outside. Yeah. I acted like I was going to do anything outside, but I just didn't want to deal with you guys staring daggers at me. Yeah. So I just went and sat outside. Then slept on the flight, slept on the bus ride to the Joe Burrow interview, kind of slinked around at the Joe Burrow interview. It was just...

I gave Hank an hour and a half to give me one question for Joe Burrow. The question got the people. The banter that came out of this question was... Tremendous banter. I can't wait to release that question. We'll make a clip of this. We should not...

preface it with that i said it in the interview and people will be like the best question interviews now we'll make a clip out of this and then we'll attach it to the actual question let's see if it will let the people decide if it gets the the banter going but i asked hank for one question for joe burrow uh an hour and a half before the interview i checked in with him after 45 minutes i was like do you have a question hank was like i i have nothing i have absolutely nothing to add uh but you did get one to me eventually and

But we determined that the real issue was what's at the core of Hank's surliness is that he's

had such a great last two weeks that now he can't get excited about anything anymore if it's not him having an all-time life experience hank will just not be happy at all you've been spoiled the last last two weeks have spoiled you hank it was literally the first day that he wasn't just winning something it was it was the first day that i opt out first day that one of his heroes didn't ask him to come hang out yeah and he's like this stinks i'm just hanging out with my co-workers

No, I just... I'm old and the hangovers hit differently. You guys battled through. I tried to and I lost the battle. But my Fyre Fest was going to be... It'll probably be in PMTV, I think. But people probably saw the screenshots and the video. Max...

Big Cat, PFT, Will and Taylor were roughhousing in the pool and like they had Max in a chokehold and you guys were trying to defend him. And I was we were all defending each other. PFT came to my defense. I came to Max's defense. Max came to PFT's defense. It was basically like a great reminder that when the chips are down, the boys will have each other's back. And I saw the cameras rolling. I was kind of, you know, I was joking. Also didn't want to get, you know,

And I was like laughing being, you know, had my hands on my feet up. And then I waited for will to take his hands off of max. And as a joke was like, Hey, Hey, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. To kind of, you know, take credit for, for helping out. And we'll,

Was still very hyped up and then just took me and basically waterboarded me for 10 minutes. So I actually got what was coming to me. You did. Worse than anyone else. I looked like a ghost, a bald ghost, just getting rinsed. And I also can't chug beers. Yeah. Yeah. Which I love going into it. I love having you around. Yeah, I was happy I got the invite in, but I knew I was not going to be able to compete. And then I think the most viral clips from the beer games were...

Me not being able to chug and then Will waterboarding me. Yeah. And those got around. I heard back about it. It wasn't great. Yeah. What did we expect showing up to this? Because I don't think we actually expected to win. You guys thought you were going to win. No, no. I wanted to compete. And I knew that, listen, I'm not a good chugger either. I actually beat PFT, but no one saw that. I can drink all day. Max and I would have been third if we were a team. I beat you by a second, Hank.

Interesting. Per Jersey Jerry. Hank, I love having you around and being part of the team because what happens is whenever you... Yesterday I joked if we had a plus minus for a part of my take, you were like a minus 26 in four minutes played. Oh, I stepped in...

He committed three turnovers, an airballed shot, and then subbed out for the rest of the game. It wasn't just that you were having a bad day. You were blaming us for your bad day. Then what Hank does whenever he gets in that mood, he goes, I could have just not come. He just tries to disinvite himself from everything.

It's our fault. No, I want you here. I love you. We walked into the Joe Burrow interview, which was a body armor shoot. And I walked in. Hank was behind me. We get inside. I noticed that the first thing I noticed about Hank is he's carrying a big water bottle of a competing sponsor to body. He was on the bus. I wasn't thinking. I wasn't in the right state of mind. And then when we told him about that, then he blamed me for not telling him not to bring that in there.

Well, no, I yelled that. And then PFT was like, I saw that. I was like, you didn't say something to me? You're like, no, I just watched you do it. No, I was in front of you. So you're still doing it. You're still blaming me. Well, because I got a stern talking to from one of our coworkers, and she was like, put that bottle away right now. I was like, oh, fuck. I'm so dumb. And PFT's like, yeah, I saw that. I was like, you could have said something. Well, I saw it as you put the bottle away.

Again, my fault, Hank. No, no, it's fine. We should not have brought you on the trip. Yeah, I was a minus. It's fine. Good guy, though. Thanks. Oh, Hank? Yeah. Yeah, I love Hank. I love having him around, even when he submits a minus 26 in four minutes played. I think I was a plus overall on the trip. I was probably close to even. Yeah. I mean, you getting told that you were...

That was the other part that we forgot. It might be in PMTV, which has our whole trip, but Hank was late to the airport on Monday night, and he was like, I might miss the flight. And that was when I found out that Roan was sick and that I offered up Hank's services to compete. And I deliberately waited until he got to the gate to tell him that he was competing because I know that if I had told him when he was in his Uber, he would have just pretended that he didn't make it in time. His face dropped.

He was so mad. Well, I just and it's true. Like I had the yak case race. I was fucked up for three days after that. The parade. I was fucked up still basically going to the airport. Yeah. And so I was like, it wasn't that I didn't want to play it. Once I started playing, I was having a blast. But I was like, once you told me like you're in the beer games, I just I was not ready for that. Yeah. Yeah. I basically had three of the most drunk I've ever been.

In the past, like, five years, in the past week. Yeah, no, I was... With July 4th coming up. I was saying to someone, I think I drank more beer in the last seven days than I have in, like, the last two years. It's a lot. I think Hank said that he's retiring. He's done drinking effective at the end of July. Is that true? Yeah. I was like, I got to take a break after July. But then it's August.

Labor Day. I know. Well, usually I wait till September, but it's like we've had a really early start. Yeah, we did. You're not going to have any beer on Grit Week?

No, but I need to take a break, maybe like a weekend or something. Yeah, take a weekend off. Just don't drink on a Saturday. Okay, PFT. Okay, yeah, my fire fest is also that I stink at chugging, but I knew that I stink at chugging. I've never been able to chug, so I knew that was going to be a bad category for us, but I feel like me and Big Cat responded well in some other events. Three beers is a lot. Listeners, people, it's like golf. It's like everyone's a pro, but like...

Well, no, I mean, Max and I are pros. Yeah, but three beers is a lot for just a normal person, for an average person. 8.19 seconds. Chugging three beers. Yeah. Thank you. Is this passing the torch moment right now? I guess Taylor would be throat goat. He did it in five seconds. Yeah.

He's hanging out with Jeffrey star. It's insane. Uh, so that's one of my fire fest. The other is that, um, so it's also airport related. We get to the airport on, uh, what day was that? Monday, Monday night to fly out. And security is a, it's a very long line going through there. Usually it's, it's pretty smooth. At least if you have clear, uh, not to brag, pay for a clear subscription. Um,

It's TSA PreCheck on steroids. Turns out it's actually not because sometimes they shut the clear down and you can't even use that. My Fire Fest is more that I've been meaning to get TSA PreCheck for the last 15 years of my life. And it involves making an appointment and then going to the appointment, usually during business hours.

And then you just have to like answer some questions and then they just say, okay, you're now your airport experience is going to be 20 times better. Yeah. Here on out. And I still haven't done it. You guys, you guys were living off my TSA pre-check for a while because whenever we booked together, you would get it automatically, which seems like a really weird loophole.

Yeah, you're cool. That means that all your friends are cool. It's not necessarily that. It's just that usually clear is pretty good. It's not bad. But there's two or three times a year where the clear does nothing to help. Or if you go to a specific airport that doesn't have it. So I am traveling internationally, which is going to be, I can already tell that they're probably not going to have clear in Greece.

So that will be an issue for me. But it's just about getting pre-checked and then going to that appointment. It takes like 20 minutes. I know. It's the best thing I've ever done. You know what? I'm going to declare it right now. I'm never going to do it. Okay. I'm never going to be a pre-check guy just because I know myself.

And going to an appointment. There's probably an email involved in it, too, that you have to click on. This is just not. But then you get it and you just have it forever. It's just not my thing. Shout out to my dad. When I lived in Boston, so it was that long ago, he got me TSA as like a gift. But the appointment window was like eight to 12 months ahead. Yeah.

And so I never ended up going to it, and I never have. Okay, so here's the thing. But shout out to my dad. Well, he tried. He tried. He was a good, kind gesture. I just didn't. I wasn't going to schedule an interview for 12 months from now. I didn't know what I was doing in a week. Yeah. Here's the moment I knew I would never get TSA PreCheck. Sure, it's easier now. Right after I got to Chicago, I went to a place, and it's like TSA PreCheck while you wait. I drove there, walked in the door.

Talk to the person at the front and they said do you have an appointment? I said, I didn't know that you had to make an appointment They said yeah, you do if you just walk in right now. It's about a two and a half hour wait So I left and at that point that's my shot. Yeah, I took my shot at it. Yeah, and I I can't do it again It's just not for me. Yeah, it is nice having TSA pre-check except for when the only time it sucks is when you have clear and TSA pre-check and

When they don't have the two separate lines. So sometimes I'll show up.

And you'll do clear and then they'll walk me past everyone in the TSA pre-check line. Yeah. I'll cut everyone and that's always a weird feeling. Yeah, you get the plus. Yeah. What usually happens to me after going through clear, they usually take my bag out anyways and then I have like my microphone and a computer in there if I'm going on a vacation or a trip and I have to have it in case we podcast. And then they look at me and they say, oh, are you in a band? And then I have to say, no, I'm a podcaster. Podcaster, yeah.

I have to clarify that. Yeah. All right. My fire fest is similar to Hank's. I've just my brain is empty. It's been a long seven days, eight days. Also, I just I miss the sphere. I don't think my life's ever going to be the same. I got to get back. Everything just seems like there's been multiple times where I've just been sitting and being like, man, I wish I was at the sphere right now.

It sounds like the sphere is quite a trip. It sounds like the sphere is better than real life. It's like you're experiencing the Avatar syndrome. Yes, correct. Where people go to see Avatar and then they get depressed when they leave because the world is an Avatar. That's exactly how I feel. What if they played Avatar in the sphere? It would rock. Anything would be cool. That'd be heaven. Yeah. So I don't know. It's just not the same life. Max, Firefest? I do have one, but we don't have to talk about it. Okay, good. That's good podcasting.

Well, I don't know if I do... Like, I don't even do Fyre Fest. Yeah, no, you do now. Get ready to learn Fyre Fest, buddy. We've had, like, a really busy past couple weeks, and I was doing a really good job of working out every day and, like, trying to eat healthy during the week, and the past couple weeks...

You go through some of the footage from beer games. I'm feeling fat, like fat as fuck right now. Beer games, I don't know how it happened, but every time I turned around, another piece of your Jason Kelsey jersey was gone. And the funniest part is that you kept it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, you ripped that jersey up to shreds to the point where it's basically like a caddy bib. It was a poncho. Yeah, it was a poncho. No, not even a poncho. It was just a caddy bib. It looked like a dog got a hold of it and tore it up, and you're like, fuck it, I'm going to wear it anyway. So then you're like, I'm going to hold on to it. Like, what?

But if we ever do the beer games again, I would have to wear it again. You know what it looked like? It got so bad at the end that it looked like a jersey you would wear because it's your lucky jersey and you're never giving it up. So you're like, I have to put this on. I know it looks like shit, but I got to wear it.

Yeah. Max, you also had a moment that we should probably address during beer games where who came up to you and said, I can't believe Jason Kelsey got here. Who was that? That was Bakhtiari. Bakhtiari. Bakhtiari was in. He's the man. But he came up to Max and was like, wow, I thought Jason Kelsey wasn't going to be here. And Max didn't think he was joking. Yeah.

Well, it was the way he worded it. It was the way he worded it. Well, how did he word it? He was like, I want you to know. It would be like, yo, like, big fan. I've been following you. I think Dave Bakhtiar would go up to Kelsey and say, big fan. Well, that's what he said. And he was like, I love what you and your brother are doing. I'm like, I don't know what that means. None of this went through my head. And he was like, and I was like, shit, dude. Like, why are you? I was like, that's crazy that you're coming up to me like a fucking idiot.

And then he was like, yeah, Jason, right? I was like, oh, my God. You're talking about Jason Kelsey. I thought you were saying that you were a fan of myself, which is so embarrassing for me to think.

And then I just kept, like, hitting it, like, slapping him on the arm. I was like, ah, that was a good one. I don't know. I turned around and got out of the conversation as quickly as possible because I was so embarrassed. You know what was striking to me is because there were so many big dudes at Beer Olympics, just a ton of offensive linemen, and they all look like they're in much better shape than us. Yeah. So it's like, stereotypically, you think, oh, linemen, you think big fat guys, but

I feel like that's old O-line. These guys, yeah. The new age of O-linemen are all ripped. They're all in great shape. That's the scariest part of going to beer games, too, because I always just size is age to me. So, like, I was talking to a couple guys. Who is it? Zach. Who's the guy on the Eagles now? Trevor Keegan. Trevor Keegan and Zach, who got drafted. I think, was it Zach Minter? That was another thing. Michigan man. I got outed as not being a ball in nowhere by him. Yeah.

Yeah, that was very bad. But they both got drafted. They're both bigger guys because they're offensive linemen, and I'm just thinking in my head, like, you're big. You're at least 35. They're like 22. Yeah. Like, God damn it. Yeah, I felt like I was a different species. It was not Zach Minter. I'm thinking of a bear. What the fuck am I thinking of? Who's the guy who was...

All right. Who knows? Draft picks. Michigan draft picks. Who were we talking to? Who was your guy? Who was your guy? The Eagles guy? Yeah. Trevor Keegan. Trevor Keegan. Michigan. Awesome dude. He was like, you're such a big Eagles fan. Who am I? Trevor Keegan. Awesome dude. And I want to shout out the other guy because I'm fucking this up. Oh, Zach Zinter. Yes. Zach Zinter. Also awesome dude. Plays for the Browns now. They're both like 23 years old.

Large humans. And they could kick our ass in beer games and in life. We got to get back to Arion, though. He is the guy. I love... The fact that he got Max in a blender like that was awesome. Okay. Good show, boys. Great show. Reminder, Monday, Dungeons & Dragons. Wednesday, Dingers only. Joe Burrow, the following Monday. So there'll be no Friday show. We're taking the 4th of July week off, as we always do. Numbers. 8, 30, 20. This is the one.

Three. This is the one. 56. Number three. 99 Pug. What do we send you off, Max, if you get this? Send me off of what? The Fourth of July week. Oh, yeah. I thought it was going to be cool. Nope. Dang. 46. 46. I said that last show. Love you guys. Walking away. Upstage. Today is another day to find you. Shine.

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