Ryan Fitzpatrick Talking Conference Championships, Stavros Halkios And The Ravens Loss, Ohio State Wins The Natty, Bears Get Ben Johnson And Tensions Are Mounting
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On today's part of my take, Ohio State wins the national championship. College football season is finally done. We'll talk about that game. Marcus Freeman, we might need to talk to him about numbers. We have some coach hiring. Ben Johnson to the Bears. Aaron Glenn to the Jets. Memes? Has it happened? Maybe? Maybe?

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And they, even though the scoreboard looks a little closer, they dominated most of that game, let Notre Dame back in, but Ohio state has done it. $20 million roster, incredible team, uh,

One blemish on the record. Otherwise, they kicked the shit out of everyone in the playoffs. Texas was a closer game. Two blemishes, right? Yeah. Well, yeah. The Oregon game by one in Autzen. And then they avenged it by a lot. By a ton. That one doesn't really count as much. But yeah, Ohio State was an awesome team. And they played awesome football down the stretch.

And the new 12-team playoff, we finally have our first national champion from it. So let's look at the rest of the top 25 that just came out. Okay. Number two, Notre Dame. Okay. Beat them. Number three, Oregon. Whomped them. Yep. Number four, Texas. Beat slash whomped them. I don't count as a whomping. Whomp if you look at the final score. Beat if you watch the game. If you watch the game, it was Texas had a chance to tie it with two minutes left. Yeah. Penn State. Penn State.

Beat them. Beat. Slash. Not womp. Beat them. They beat them by seven. They beat a lot of really good teams. And they had a very tough path.

to go through this playoff. You can't point to Ohio State and say anything about Asterix, Mickey Mouse, whatever. They were the best team in this playoff. They do have that big expensive roster, but to their credit, most of the money from the roster is going to guys that stayed around. So it's like, hey, come back to OSU instead of trying to declare for the draft. We'll pay you some money while you're here. They did make a big addition at safety, obviously. But yeah, it's a team that's been there for a long time.

And credit to them. What a crazy season Ohio State had. Yeah, I mean, if you had asked anyone at the end of November, like, is this team going to go on a run and do what they did in the playoff? Obviously, it was there somewhere deep down. But you also were like, they're on the ropes because what happened against Michigan was insane. But man, that four-game stretch that they went through there, they were so good. And...

They're just a really, really, really good football team. Ryan Day proved the haters wrong in the fact that he can win a national title. Will Howard, happy for Will Howard because I know that I've not been the number one Will Howard rider. I think he's a good quarterback. I didn't know if he was a great quarterback. He was playing great. I mean, that play at the end where Ohio State –

The fourth quarter, I think we all watched it. We, you know, the first three quarters, you're like Notre Dame shouldn't be on the field with Ohio state. Notre Dame gets a fumble, goes and scores. They get back in the game. They're fighting, which they deserve a ton of credit for. And then Ohio state has the ball up eight at the end of the game. And it looked like they were kind of turtling a little bit running the, you know, just will Howard right into the line and hoping to punt and,

and be okay. It was like, give the ball to Will Howard. Don't even let him pitch the ball. Don't let him hand the ball off. Don't let him throw the ball. Don't even let him get tackled. Just give the ball, snap the ball to Will Howard, have him run to the right and fall down. Yeah. And then they call up to play the 50 yard pass to Jeremiah Smith. That was a gutsy ballsy.

And Chip Kelly was in his bag. That first touchdown to Jeremiah Smith was one of the coolest plays where he had the whole side of the field completely wide open in a short yardage situation. I think it was on the 10-yard line. But yeah, that was a ballsy, gutsy call. And Ryan Day proved that he's not going to piss down his legs. And he's the national champion forever. That call to Jeremiah Smith was the same call, kind of, as they did, I think, to Tony in the Super Bowl.

where you move your guy in motion, have him fake like he's going to run a reverse or jet sweep or something like that, send him back out, and he's going to be a step ahead in a short yardage situation. Again, the ball, it works all the time. Well, it's a great call, but it's also a testament to Jeremiah Smith and how insanely athletic he is because if you watch that play and how he's able to stop on a dime, no one else has that stop and start that he does.

So even if you play it perfectly and you're tracking him, you're still going to lose on that play. And yeah, he's an incredible talent. And then when Notre Dame was tracking him across the field, he goes in motion and there's two guys that are like, oh, fuck, he's in motion. I'm going to start running as fast as I can. And then boom, left it wide open. On that last series of the game for Ohio State, when they're going down the field and they're doing the conservative shit with Will Howard, just give him the ball. Do you think that Chip Kelly decided to do that

To set up the deep shot. He's like, make them think that we're getting conservative and then that's going to open it up. No, I just assumed that deep shot was probably an option play for Will Howard where it was like, hey, get to the line. If if Jeremiah Smith is one on one on the outside with no safety help.

That's where you should go. If they're playing something else, if they're playing zone or something else, then probably just run it again into the line and we'll hope our defense can get a stop. That's what I thought last night. Then I woke up this morning and I thought to myself, did Chip Kelly just fake out all of America? Because we all bought into the narrative of Ohio State getting too conservative and just kind of pissing away the game at the very end.

He might have just fooled everybody and said, we're going to make you think that we're doing that. Yeah. And then bomb it deep. The very first drive of the game for Notre Dame. Did you think it was going to be a game after that? I thought it was a perfect start because it was a 10 minute touchdown drive for

I did not think that it was sustainable for Riley Leonard to carry the ball nine times on a 10-minute drive and get the absolute shit kicked out of him time and time again. But if you ask Notre Dame fan, what's the perfect drive? Obviously, maybe not Riley Leonard getting nine carries, but what's the perfect drive to start? It's 10 minutes, bully ball,

completely erase the first quarter and score a touchdown. They did. They erased the first quarter. But then Ohio State gets the ball and they score in like three minutes. Right. And then you're like, what was all that work for? Yeah, right. So, I mean, Ohio State was just a better team. And I thought, I said going into it, I was like, if Notre Dame can be plus two or three on the turnovers, they will have a shot. I think they were plus one. So they needed a couple more of those. They really couldn't.

It was a bad fit for Notre Dame in the fact that they play man coverage a lot, and that's what Ohio State just absolutely eats alive. And they were trying to switch to zone, and it's just like they didn't really feel like they had the answers to all the problems that Ohio State's offense was throwing at them. And Ohio State's defense is elite. I mean, Jeremiah Love was – what did he have, four carries? Yeah. Like he – I mean, he –

They're just an elite, elite defense top to bottom. They were never able to really run the ball. Outside of that first drive where they went all gas, no brakes, that doesn't mean that you can't steer. And they didn't. They just were going to crash into everybody. And then Jeremiah Love was just not part of the game at all. Yeah. And Notre Dame, like I said, Notre Dame deserves credit for fighting because I think we all were in the same boat. Like, this sucks as a dud. They did put a little bit. Now, did he get hurt? Because he had four rushes for three yards. Yeah.

He might've gotten hurt. I bet on him. I was monitoring him very closely. I don't know if he got hurt or not. I had 17 rushes, but, uh, credit to Notre Dame for making it a game there. Uh, at the end where it was like, you had to at least be paying attention when they cut it to, uh, eight now, or sorry, they cut it to five. And then, and then they, Ohio state kicked a field goal. Uh,

Our guy Marcus Freeman, who we like. Great coach. Incredible run. I do think Notre Dame's future is very bright, and they'll be back in this spot. They've got a good quarterback coming in, all these things. I don't know what he was doing with that field goal kick. I was shocked. So for people who didn't watch the game, I'm assuming everyone watched the game, Notre Dame was down 16 with nine minutes left on the nine-yard line, and he brought out the field goal unit, missed the field goal because they rushed him out,

but trying to make a two score game, a two score game. And there were some people who were like, Oh, well now Notre Dame could win with two touchdowns. If they hit this field goal, it still didn't make sense because you were saying you needed with nine minutes left, you needed two full touchdown drives and two stops of Ohio state.

I would always take, uh, trying to get nine yards over that. Yeah. And they're like, well, what about the two point conversion? I still like you have to play. If you kick that attempt, that field goal, you have to play a perfect end of the game to have everything go your way, to have a chance to even win that game. I'm going to play devil's advocate for Notre Dame. We'd be Jesus Christ advocate for Notre Dame. Uh,

Did you see the plays that they were calling and how effective they were earlier in that situation? Yeah. I still don't. I'm playing this advocate real quick. They didn't even sniff the end zone. They were getting overpowered. It didn't look like they had a hope on fourth down of scoring a touchdown. It would basically be throw the ball up, hope that somehow a miracle happens, you come down with it.

It was not – although their two-point plays were really good. This was – it would have been a nine-yard touchdown, but they didn't look like they were in rhythm at all to score a touchdown on that. So Marcus Freeman was probably just like, yeah, you know what, screw it. Let's just take some points here. But then in that situation, you have to still go down the field twice and score touchdowns. Right, and get two stops. I hated the field goal call. I thought it was bad, but I thought that probably had something to do with it. If they had – if they were close on one of their previous plays, if they looked like they –

ran a play that worked out anywhere near what they had practiced, they probably would have been like, yeah, okay, let's take a shot at the end zone. But it was just, it was a bad series. Yeah, we got to talk math with them. It's just two score game to a two score game. I don't know. You just, you got a chance there. I still would rather figure out your best play. And if you don't get it,

okay but at least you you went out on your sword bring out the field goal kicker and rushing them out and having a miss the kick was just the worst possible scenario that was karma yeah and then i saw people posting the the stats of whether or not you should go for it what the plus minus was and it was a toss-up but i'm pretty sure that on those toss-ups they don't take into account the two-point conversion too yeah like obviously if you're down by 16 you're

then it's not the same as being down by 14 in that model. It's a national championship. It's a national championship. Yeah, I think you've got to go for it. You've got to go for it. You've got to be aggressive. You've got to just go. I mean, again, you just – and what ended up happening was Ohio State, you know, ended up getting another field goal to make it a two-score game again. But it's just like, I don't know, you've just got to go for it there. You've got to – I know it sucks. I know your offense had no real answers, but you've got to go for it. And –

I, uh, Ohio state. Yeah. I mean the incredible season Ryan day. Is he going to get a contract extension? I was going to ask you, do you think Ryan day's job is safe? I would say it's safe. Yeah, probably. But how do we think Ohio state fans? Like this is one of those things where you're national to champions and it's awesome.

But it's still got to probably bother you that Michigan fans are like, but you couldn't beat us. That's the thing. I've listened to a lot of sports talk today. And every single time I've been hearing somebody talk about Ohio State, when they bring it up, within two sentences, the word Michigan is used. Right. And it's not an asterisk. You guys won the national championship. Ohio State was the best team in college football. I don't think that you can argue that. They were the best. They proved it through a tournament. They beat...

all the other top-ranked teams in the tournament. Crazy route that they took. But people are always going to say Michigan after they talk about this title. You have to just embrace that if you're Ohio State and say, yeah, we experienced the lowest low that you could possibly have for our team during a season, and then we responded and we were better than everybody in the country. And they might not win the national title if they don't lose to Michigan. There's a world where that might have galvanized them and refocused them, and they did change...

how they ran the ball, some of their play calling, letting Will Howard throw it deep to Jeremiah Smith more. So there is that world that was actually the thing that pushed them to win a national title. They probably would have won it anyway, but it also hurts because Ryan Day, Urban Meyer, and then Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes, the most famous probably in football lore of all the Ohio State coaches,

Has a famous quote, you can't claim a national championship without winning the game. The only meaningful statistic is the number of times you beat Michigan. That's probably because it had never happened before. Well, and also it was a different world where you literally would just claim national titles. Yeah, it's ours. Yeah, and you technically like, you probably can't because if you have one loss, you can't claim a national title. So what we're saying. It's a different world. And Woody Hayes, he co-signs on this, co-national champions.

Michigan and Ohio State. Michigan and Ohio State. What this has really done is this is just the ultimate buildup to that game next year. Oh, my God. It's going to be incredible. I can't wait. And the Big Ten is kind of where football lies now, two in a row. And it's, I mean, I know there's the theory that now that the schools in the north can start paying everyone over the table, it makes it a little bit different than what was happening in the SEC. But if you're an SEC fan, you've got to be like, shit.

And it's very cool. It's cool for sports just in general that Michigan went out, had a 15-0 season, and then that game happened where Michigan beats Ohio State, and Ohio State, like both of the premier programs in the Big Ten just put their nuts on the table and won back-to-back titles. It is kind of crazy, yeah. It's good for football. Great for football. You know what's not good for football was having that game last night. Yeah. That was bad. Yeah. No, it should be January 10th should be the latest they play the national championship. We didn't feel like it was even college football season anymore.

At that point it was like oh yeah The most important game of all is Tonight we forgot yeah you can't have it You can't have four NFL teams Left and still not have a national Title champion for College football it just feels weird It feels off stupid it was Cool seeing those two schools on the field though For a national title yeah and credit to Ohio State They were they were an incredible Incredible team and at Their best they're up there like I think they Could take anyone um

But in Ryan Day, I'm happy that he can still live without having...

his house be TP'd and people calling and harassing him. He's got a little bit back. Although there's probably going to be some crazy Ohio State fans are like, that wasn't enough. Maybe just order pizza to his house. If he loses to, imagine if he does this again next year, if he loses to Michigan, then wins another national title. That's just his thing. I saw people having the debate, like how many losses in a row would you take to Michigan for one national title? What, what's the math on that? But that, that's more interesting. Like how many national titles in a row would you want to win losing to Michigan every year? Cause it's,

If you're Ohio State this year, you're like, fuck yeah, I'll take that deal. We're the national champions. If it happens again next year, then you're like, okay, yeah, pretty cool, back to back. But then if it's every, I think maybe by three, you're like, I would just like to beat Michigan. Yeah. I brought this up after they lost to Michigan, and you guys both told me if you gave them that deal, they'd all say no.

I mean, what? To lose to Michigan every year? You said, fuck yeah, I'd take that deal. You lose to Michigan and win the national title. After they lost to Michigan, I was like, if they win the national title, does it not matter? No, it doesn't matter because they lost to Michigan. Yeah, I think it's still their season. So I'm saying before the season, if you had given them that deal, they would have said no. I think there's some Ohio State fans that would be like, we want to beat Michigan. I think after that Michigan game... No, but before the season.

Yeah. You said you're going to lose to Michigan but win the national title. I think there's some Ohio State fans. After they lost to Michigan, you guys both told me that they would have said, we will not take that deal. We have to beat Michigan. I'd also like to say. What do you think it is now, though, now that they've actually won the title? I think they've got to beat Michigan next year. I think I was wrong right after to say that you would not take the deal. I think that after the fact, it felt so low for them.

But the way that it's played out and the way that they battled back from that, I've changed my mind. I think that Ohio State fans are just as proud of this season as they are of a lot of their others where they do beat Michigan. So I think I was wrong about that. Hand up. But that doesn't mean that there isn't a shitload of ammunition for people out there to fire back whenever you talk about that. That's going to be the story of this championship for the rest of your lives when you say, yeah, we won this game. We won the national title. Yeah.

There will be somebody that says, yeah, but you lost to Michigan. Yeah. Yeah, and I think that rivalry matters to such an insane point to those fans that as awesome as the national title was, and it's awesome, there's just a small part of them like, damn, that Michigan game really did suck. And we know that in the workings of the rivalry, if you know Michigan fans, if you work with Michigan fans, if you have friends of Michigan fans, they'll always just bring it up. And they always kind of got that on you. Yeah.

Cause that's just how college football. Now you could say that this is also probably what PFT was saying, like probably an overreaction to that game. It also is an overreaction to the, the way the new 12 team playoff works. Cause in, in all years past in the hundred plus years of that rivalry, uh,

If Ohio State loses that game, they don't have a chance to win a national title. This was literally the first year where this possibly could happen. That's what I was saying with Woody Hayes. He said that because it couldn't happen. Yeah, you can't claim it. So this is the new normal a little bit, which I'll hand up. I've seen people argue this point when they argue against a 12-team playoff that some of the rivalries games can maybe have a little bit of a diminished meaning because of that.

That does suck a little bit. That you can go and lose to your rival and then still go win a national title like that, that has never happened in college football. I was thinking about the kick six. Alabama would have probably won a national title. So that game would have meant nothing. The loss to Michigan, truly the start of the championship DVD. Yeah, yeah. But it was a great football season, college football season. You've got to do it earlier, though. How good does that Indiana loss to Ohio State look now, huh?

Yeah. Although they lost by a decent amount. Yeah. Yeah. Signetti. Signetti. Yeah, he only lost by 10 in Notre Dame. Yeah, he kicks people's asses. Yeah. Okay. Any other last college football thoughts? Penn State next year, Max? Penn State should be good next year. I'm just saying, went Michigan, Ohio State. I was looking at the best part of when a college season ends, you got to look at the way too early top 25 for next year. Mm-hmm.

Penn State number three. Penn State number three. Who's won? Ohio State? Ohio State. Number two? Texas. Okay. Give us the top ten. Notre Dame number four. Okay. Georgia number five. Yeah. Oregon six. Yeah. Clemson seven. Yeah. LSU eight. Mm-hmm. BYU nine. Mm-hmm.

and South Carolina 10. I think you could just... According to ESPN. Yeah, you could have pulled that out of your ass at any point in the last four years and just put those teams out there. South Carolina's a little bit of a wild card. Yeah, you got to have BYU mix it up a little bit. LSU, I'm sure that'll end well. Congrats to Ohio State, though.

Okay. What else we got? Any coach hirings? Well, there was also the tragic golf cart accident in the tunnel afterwards when that lady was driving Ryan Day. Who else was in that golf cart? I think Will Howard was in there. Will Howard was in there. And the lady, she just drives directly into the wall. Couldn't see the wall. Came out of nowhere. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't painted yellow or anything. It was a hazard. She drove directly into it. She was probably a Georgia alumni. Yeah. But yeah, it was a very, very funny. Watch her steer.

Bang. She just didn't see the wall. Ohio State coaches and golf carts. Name a better duo. Always works. Yeah, that's brutal. I mean, she drove it in so bad, you couldn't even reverse it. That's when you really felt like it was... Yeah, the cops had to come, and they just started walking. They're like, all right, never mind. We're out of here. It does rock to be able to just ride around golf carts. That's my dream. I don't know. You want her to release a statement? I would. How did she even think...

For the record, Hank wants to know, so make sure to follow her on Instagram, Hank. What is her Instagram? Because Hank would like to follow her for the statement. Yeah. Link me up. Link him up. I'll do some journalism. Okay. What else we got? Anything else? Some coaching hires.

Oh, really? Who got hired? You said the Jets always 3 o'clock. Yeah, it's after 3. Congratulations, Big Cat. On what? Ben Johnson. I'm staying a 6 out of 10. That's a lot. Yeah, that's the first thing. So Big Cat's not a 6 out of 10 because I was in the gambling cave, and the first thing Big Cat says to me is like,

The Bears just got Ben Johnson. Big Cat is all the way back. No, I'm 6 out of 10. I don't blame you. There's still a lot of work to be done. This is the move that you have to... This is what I was talking about with Mike McCarthy versus Ben Johnson. You're wrong again. Yeah. Very wrong. Mike McCarthy, safe hire, probably gets you to the playoffs, probably have you guys win a couple games.

Ben Johnson is a guy that can turn Caleb Williams into a superstar quarterback. Here's okay. I'm not going to, because people are going to want me to get ahead of myself, not going to get ahead of myself. This is what I'm very, very happy. I'm a six out of 10 happy, which is as high as my happiness meter can go. Ben Johnson picking the bears and the bears paying the money that they're going to pay Ben Johnson is,

is a significant shift in everything the bears usually do. And that's, you know, they don't, they don't usually pay a coach. I think the report was 14 million, which is for a first time head coach is insane. Uh,

Ben Johnson was the hottest ticket in the last two coaching hiring cycles. He was the guy who was hand-selecting which interviews he won. The Jaguars, the Raiders, I know the Jets probably wanted him. He didn't do an interview with them. All these teams wanted Ben Johnson.

He picked the Bears, which makes me think that he thinks Caleb Williams is special, which makes me very happy. And for all the shit I give George McCaskey and the McCaskey family and the Bears ownership, they went and got the number one guy on the market, and they paid him top dollar, and that's very anti-Bears. So I'm 6 out of 10 happy. A lot of work to be done. Got to get an offensive line. Got to get more defensive line. Got to get Caleb Wright.

But I believe in Ben Johnson, and I'm very happy. I heard one suggestion. Memes heard the same thing on the radio this morning. Draft Ashton Gentry in the first round. What do you think about that? I've seen that as well. The Bears need a lot of help everywhere. So if they want to do Ashton Gentry and we want to get freaky with it, I trust in Ben Johnson, and I'm back trusting in Ryan Poles as well. Because I did not think that the Bears were going to be able to get Ben Johnson. I thought that they had screwed it up. I thought no one would pick the Bears.

Ben Johnson, I saw a report that Ben Johnson wanted the Bears job last year, but he agreed to stay for one last year with Dan Campbell to finish this thing out. And that's why the Bears ended up keeping Eberflus because they're like, we don't want to fire him now.

And lose out on Ben Johnson next year. This also might just be a fan fiction thing in my head that I've made up. I was going to suggest maybe it might be. But a 6 out of 10, I remain. He was like... He had his eye on... This is his dream job. The Bears have a lot of work to do. And Ben Johnson isn't going to be able to fix everything. But it was... It's... I'm... As...

I'm saying a 6 out of 10. That's what I was going to say. You know what's crazy? I was going to say something else, but I'm saying a 6 out of 10. You know what's crazy is you're older than Ben Johnson. Yeah, Ben Johnson. I mean, that's a lot of coaches now. Yeah. You are too, buddy. We're older than like every coach here. Yeah. It's getting bad. Scary hours. Not me. Just wait. Close. How old's Ben Johnson? He is 38. Okay. We're about to be 40. Does that count as boy genius?

Could be. Is Ben Johnson a boy genius? He might be. I think he is. I think for NFL coaches under 40 he is. Yeah, he's boy genius. Boy genius. You have your own boy genius. Boy genius. And he must love Caleb if he's signing up to coach against the Lions twice a year, coach against Kevin O'Connell twice a year. The Alliance fans are very upset. Coach against Matt LaFleur twice a year. He was going to leave anyway. I know it's a divisional guy or divisional rival, but he was going to leave anyway.

The reason you lost the game, though, basically being a crazy play called by it, that makes it sting that much worse. Yeah. Well, no, that's not why they lost the game. But if you're a Lions fan, coping. That was the defining play of the game. Yeah. You had a really nice house with him. He threw a party, trashed the house, and left. Yeah. I'm very 6 out of 10. I'm as 6 out of 10 as you could get.

Would you guys agree? Memes has been policing me. I mean, earlier you said, I'm a 6 out of 10 because I have to be a 6 out of 10. If you took the restrictor plate off, are you asking what I'd be? Yes. I'm willing to let you...

Say your piece. Yeah, you should. Hank, are you willing to? I'm willing to. Be upfront. Be honest with our listeners. Because the takeaway right now is Big Cat grades the coaching higher as 6 out of 10. No, that's going to be bad. That's not how I grade the coaching higher. Don't let the past... That's not how I... Don't let the past... I'm saying that's what it's not. That's my happiness is a 6 out of 10. That's what the takeaway is going to be. Big Cat is a 6 out of 10. I'm staying 6 out of 10.

They have to start winning games. They have to do a good job of the draft. But they're winning the offseason again. See, I don't like that. We're not winning any offseason. You've got to win in the season. But I'm willing to say that I'm not holding you to your word on the 6 out of 10. You can say what you really feel. I'm not going to say what I really feel, but if I were to say what I was going to really feel...

If I were going to say it, and again, this is not me saying it, but if I were going to say it, I would say that hiring Ben Johnson literally changes everything about this franchise, and it's all the way back. But I didn't say any of that. I stayed at six out of ten the whole time.

You can say whatever you want as long as you follow it up with six out of ten. Six out of ten. Yeah, I'm saying six out of ten. This hire is so different than what the Bears are usually able to pull off. And the guy's a fucking boy genius. And he is picking it because of Caleb Williams. And the McCaskey's who are notoriously cheap are paying a ton of money. Everything...

If I were going to get out of the six out of 10 zone, I'd say literally everything has changed and the bears are all the way back and won the off season, probably going to win the Superbowl, but I'm staying six out of 10. So you got to go and do it on the field before I get excited. I love just the idea of George McCaskey getting aggressive with it. After all these years, he's like, it's,

It's time. And I should probably say sorry to Kevin Warren, too, because he probably was the one who had to tell George McCaskey, add another zero, dude. Like, hey, yeah, actually, you're going to have to move that comma over. And he's like, what? Yeah. It's not 1.4 million. It's 14 million. I mean, congratulations to Ben Johnson. When it comes to getting paid.

This was a great, great way he went about it. Just say no to everyone. And then they want you more. And the Bears are going to go for it on fourth downs and get aggressive as fuck. What needs to happen the next three years for you to maybe go to like seven out of ten? Oh, no, I'll go to ten out of ten if they start winning football games. I say they have to do it on the field. No, but I'm saying in three years, what would you consider success or failure?

They have to start winning games on the field. They have to start going to the playoffs. Playoff football is hard, so it's like if they go to the playoffs, if they start maybe beating the Packers, that kind of stuff, although Thomas Brown did beat the Packers. He's 1-0 against the Packers. Are you going to get to above a 6 out of 10 before the playoffs? I'm going to get above 6 out of 10 as soon as they start winning games. Is that going to be week one? Yeah. Preseason? Yeah. No, not preseason. What if they win?

Last summer I said some really fucking stupid shit that everyone keeps reminding me of how stupid I sounded and I did sound really stupid and I feel stupid. I'm a moron. This summer I'm not going to say stupid shit. I'm going to say I'm excited about things, but I'm not going to let myself get over my skis and I'm not going to get to a point where I'm like, this is the best situation ever and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They got a lot of holes. They got a lot of work to be done. Caleb's got to get a lot better.

If they start winning games and Caleb looks better, then we just start ramping it up. It's a great hire. I think this is the right hire. The best hire they could make. Congratulations. A 6 out of 10 should be a 10 out of 10. If you're a Bears fan. It's a million out of 10 if I didn't agree to do 6 out of 10. Memes is policing me, too. Memes is just following me around, just watching my moves. He's a hater. Are you staying 6 out of 10? He's snaking the grass.

Now, Adam Schefter did have a very funny spin on it. Shout out Schefter, by the way. He came on this show and said, don't follow the pack. Yeah. When everyone was saying that Ben Johnson was going to be on the Raiders. He had a very funny spin about it when he said that the Bears have hired Ben Johnson. He said, Ben Johnson has spent the last week putting together a star-studded cast of assistant coaches, and then there was a big picture of Dennis Allen. I reacted poorly to that. Dennis Allen's actually a very good defensive coordinator. It's also really smart to get a guy who's –

been in the NFL for a long time and knows how this works as part of your staff. Darren Rizzi might be part of the staff. I agree that... Which would be awesome. ...that getting an older guy that has coached before, good move. Would you say that it is star-studded with Dennis Allen? Not star-studded, but Dennis Allen's a very good defensive coordinator. Mm-hmm. So, yeah, I mean, star-studded's probably the wrong word. Sounds like Shefty was getting a 10 out of 10 excited. Yeah, he was getting really excited. I would have said...

Very good defensive coordinator. Yep. And older gentleman, Dennis Allen, is joining the Bears. Yeah. Now, Rob Ryan, that's star-studded. That is star-studded. Shout out USC. Yeah, that is star-studded. I'm very excited. Six out of ten. Million out of ten. Bears are back. Six out of ten. Aaron Glenn? Not yet. Josie and Anderson said they're working through some contractual moving parts. So negotiating. Negotiating, yes. Okay. Who is going to be your GM?

The commander's assistant GM. Okay. Are they going to hire him after the coach? I think so. I think they're going to hire him together. Lance Newmark? Lance Newmark. Okay. Kind of looks like a Lego. All right. Okay. That's my only evaluation. And how do you feel about Aaron Glenn? If we sign Aaron Glenn, we got the number one guy on the market. Huh? And he was the number one coach per me.

Per your interviews. No, no. Just number one guy out there. Number one coaching candidate on the market. You did not want Mike Frable. No. You didn't want to interview Ben Johnson? I want whoever we hire, and that's the number one guy. I like that. That's smart. He's a jet. I can't relate because we got the number one guy, but yeah. No, we'll see who got the number one guy during the season. That's true. That's true memes. That is. Today could be the best day of your life. Also, looking back, could be the worst.

Thanks, memes. Okay. In terms of hiring. Same for you, buddy. Same for you. Congrats, Big Cat. This might be the worst day of your life. Yeah, this could. Same for you.

Could be the best day. Could be the best day. And I think Ben Johnson, he said that he turned down the Jaguars because he didn't like how everything was set up. Yeah, with Trent Balke. He didn't like the setup there. That means Trent Balke. That's where I'm shocked the Bears did it because the Bears have a similar setup where Ryan Pohl's in the last year of his deal, but credit to Ryan Pohl's, Kevin Moore, and McCaskey, they did it. So you will be happy with Aaron Glenn? I will be happy. Leader of men. Leader of men.

Get everybody going in the right direction. He's a motivator. Lions fans seem to be happy that he's going, but I don't care. And then...

And then we have probably Mike McCarthy, the Saints. Maybe, yeah. And then no idea what the Cowboys are going to do. You got to do Dion. Liam Cohen to maybe the Jaguars. I think Jerry Jones is shocked at how much head coaches cost now. Yeah. He's been out of the market for a little bit. He didn't realize. And he's like, wait, he wants $14 million and he's never coached before? Yeah. I don't think they even talked to Ben Johnson. Kevin O'Connell reached agreement on a multi-year contract extension.

At what cost? The cost of having that story leaked right before you had to play the Lions. Yeah. Now, again, we should know NFL coaches' salaries.

That should be public. I think there's a decent idea of, I know Tomlin is what, 16 million, 18 million? But it should be out there. Florio said Ben Johnson was 13 or 14. The team should have to tell us like they tell us what the extensions are for quarterbacks. Yeah, I agree. I want to know that. I think Andy Reid gets paid 20. Yeah, fan bases have a right to know, so they can choose how much they want to complain to the owner. Yeah. What memes? You're looking at us quizzically. No, I was just looking. Somebody said Ben Johnson got six years, 15.

15 a year? Yeah. Okay. That's a lot of money. It is. That the Bears usually don't spend. What do you think Aaron Glenn's going to get? That's probably why this is taking so long. Ah, he sees his buddy get six for 15. Yeah. If you're the Cowboys, you've got to get Deion at this point, right? Yeah. You've got to make every play to get Deion. Just have it be fun. And then what are the Raiders going to do? Yeah. All right. Last thing. How pulse check between Max and PFT? Pulse is strong. Yeah.

Max is very nervous. 52 beats a minute overnight last night. Wow. I feel pretty good about that. Max is mumbling to himself a lot and saying a bunch of shit. What does 52 beats a minute mean? Pulse. Pulse. Was that normal? It's pretty good. It's good low, though. It means that you're maintaining. Mine's probably pretty high, if I had to say. Yeah. You're not...

I don't think you're handling the pressure great. No, I feel it more than I've ever felt any pressure before in my life. Do you think that we're adding to the pressure at all? I have thought about this a lot. The difference of my nerves going into this game because I work for this company and I work for this show. I think about it like if I was just a normal guy that was just an Eagles fan, lived in Philly. Butt crack showing. Butt crack showing.

Like what, where my, my confidence would be. I think I would be like a confident asshole. Yeah. And that's what we are. Yeah. Hank has finally aligned himself with the city of Philadelphia. I think big cats going to, to eventually based on money reasons. And also I, the, the new Orleans piece that I shout out that one guy who was just like, why doesn't big cat just take his kids to new Orleans for the Superbowl?

Didn't think of that. Didn't think of that. That sounds like fun. Yeah, that sounds like a great time. Yeah, but in a way, because everybody's aligning themselves with the Eagles and rooting for the Eagles, that puts way more pressure on Max. I don't know if I'm fully aligning with the Eagles. I think I have to figure out what I'm going to do with my Eagles future if I might cash out. Because there's part of me that's just like, if the Commanders win, it is also great for the show. Yeah.

Although I did tell Max I was going to slash his tires if the Eagles didn't win. Yeah, so there's a little bit more pressure there. I'm fully aligned. And I might have also said that I was going to get his girlfriend to give me a key to his apartment. I was going to beat him up while he sleeps. Yeah, it's all fair stuff. This is why we watch sports. I feel confident in the fact that I've accepted the fact it's house money, and I have to kind of put aside... Loser talk. Shut up, man. I have to put aside...

All the stats, all the roster gazing that you do, and you look at all the dudes that Philly has, you have to throw that all away. None of that really matters right now. What matters is that we have the best quarterback in this game who's capable of doing things that other quarterbacks aren't against the Philadelphia Eagles. He's the hottest quarterback in the league right now, and the Eagles have a history. It's not the NCAA tournament. I think what J.D. kind of is.

I mean, something is happening. I just noticed something.

PFT, Hank called you a loser and you said, shut up, Hank. You didn't say, shut the fuck up, Hank. Yeah. Which makes me think that. No, this is Philly. This is Philly. Normally you say, shut the fuck up, Hank. Yeah, this is Philly, Hank. You kind of accepted that when you said, oh, shut up, Hank. Oh, Max is. I think you're digging, Max. I think you're pressing. I mean, how often do you say, shut the fuck up, Hank? When he said that, he's not so far. Yeah, that's a wind horse. He just wind horsed you. This is Philly, Hank.

You might have half accepted the loser. The inflection of your voice was not an... It was, shut up, Hank. Shut the fuck up, Hank. No. Shut the fuck up, Hank, is a motto in your brain. Usually when I feel it. Usually when I scream at Hank and tell him to shut the fuck up, it's because there's like a kernel of really mean truth in whatever Hank has just said. And so I have to just shout him down. In this one, I don't think that's loser talk at all. I like just doing this now and...

Wynors. So how about that? How about it? How about it? This is a podcast, but this is for the listeners. We're all putting our fingers up. I'm just doing the Wynors. Do you care to address what I just said? I wasn't listening at all. I wasn't listening at all.

I was just focusing on the fingers. I was focusing on the fingers. I'm sorry. Say it again. No, I said it. Am I closing your mouth? Say it again. No, I said it. Listen to the podcast. No, come on. No, it'll be fine. Just say it again. We're having fun doing the Windhorst thing. Here's the thing. He said, I'm always, I heard you say, everything I say is the truth or something along those lines. Yeah, that's exactly what I said. It is house money. We're playing with no pressure.

And we're a dangerous team. And you can put all the stats in front of me. I think you can throw them out. Spreads don't matter in this game. Agreed. It doesn't. The spread does not matter at all. Unless the Eagles win by a field goal. Which I don't think that they will. But they could. I think the Eagles are going to win by a touchdown or more, or the Commanders are going to win by three. But you said Eagles first. I didn't win. Oh, no. Big Cat just said, I don't see the Eagles winning by a touchdown. Oh, no. No, I didn't say that.

I said, unless the Eagles win by three. Yeah, so then that's why I said I see the Eagles winning by more than that or losing outright. Got it.

It's fine. Hey, this is going to be gang up week. I'm not. I just. Gang up. Gang, gang, gang. I'm going to dye my hair blonde and put on a white T-shirt and underpants and sit on a couch in front of you guys because it's just going to be. It's going to be just taking rods from all angles. Memes. And that's fine. I have. I mean, I want to come in. I am. I am heavily debating.

cashing out and betting the commanders because I think the commanders are going to win though. Yeah, you won't do it and I don't care if you do it or not. So when I do it, will you apologize to me? No. What do you mean you won't do it? I might do it. I might do it. First of all, what am I going to apologize to you for? Second of all, I do not give a fuck who you bet on this weekend. Okay.

All right, well, I'm saying I might not gang up on you. You can't say you guys are ganging up on me. I'm like, I haven't decided yet, and then be like, I don't give a fuck. Okay. Those are two conflicting things. Well, because right now, you are betting on the Eagles. That's what I'm saying. I have a future on the Eagles. I'm living in the present. I have a future on the Eagles. Listen, if the fingers trigger you, we'll stop doing the fingers. You guys can finger whatever you want. It's gang week.

Finger away, boys. No, yeah. Obviously, you and I are going into this game in two completely separate modes of mind. Modes of mind. Modes of mind. Yeah, true. Word count. I'm done. I'm just thinking that. Shut it down. If the Eagles lose this game, my life is over. If you lose this game, you had a great season. Yeah, this is the window. This is the start of the window, and we could shut your window.

I have thought more about that. Our defensive window is just beginning, and that is a real thing. Yeah, but... Our defense is so good and so young. You're going to find out someday. If we go into your house, though, and beat the Eagles, then there's a new daddy. There's no way. Then you can forget. You don't run this shit anymore if that happens. Hank is...

might actually be on your side. The way he says everything. Look, he's smiling. Are you Windhorsey? He's smiling. Are you Windhorsey again? Look at him. Hank, everything that he says, there's a little word count. Max is so paranoid. This now makes the previous Windhorsey seem a little crazy because you're just pointing at everyone now. How come you didn't say fuck, BFT? Usually you say fuck. It was a decent point. That was a good point.

The fingers bothered you. I'm excited. It's okay. They're funny, though. I'm excited. And there's a good chance that the Eagles win this game. I'm not delusional. I don't think that the Commanders should be favored in this game. I think the Eagles have a great team. They're favored for a reason. But I also feel confident going into it.

And I felt confident going into the Lions last week. I did. I felt as a week went on, I got more calm. So let's just see what happens between the Lions on Sunday, Max. Yeah. And may the better team advance to the Super Bowl. But you should be more calm. Workout. I'm done. Yeah. I have to dig into the matchup because I do. There's a chance I bet on the Commanders because I do think they're just something. Jaden Daniels is so special. Like, I bet on them against the Lions. I wish I had bet Moneyline. I would rather just win.

I'd rather win my bet than have to look at you and be like, you did it again. You better watch tape, buddy. Watch the tape. I'm grinding the tape. He's word counting. All right, let's get to ourselves. Let's do hot seat, cool throne. First of all, before we get to that, is Jalen Hurts okay?

He's got a word count. First of all. First of all. That was a 20-minute segment. It was a two-part question. He's got a word count. Is Jalen Hurst? Yes, he's going to be fine. He's a gamer. Is he okay, Hank? He's a gamer, yep. Is Quinian Mitchell okay? Don't. Yes. I've looked into the Chiefs drugs. I'm trying to get some Mahomes drugs for Jalen Hurst. CJ Stratton had some of that shit, too. Yeah. There's drugs out there for him to be fine. Yep. I got to find them. Yeah.

I'm worried about Big Dom. Big Dom can get anything. Okay, let's kick it to ourselves. Hotsy Cool Throne. Then we have Ryan Fitzpatrick and Stavi on the show. Okay, Hotsy Cool Throne is presented by GameTime, the official ticketing partner of Barstool Sports. Hotsy, big ticket. The big ticketing companies that make getting tickets to NFL playoff games a real hassle. Cool Throne, you. GameTime's got your back.

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This is bad. This is bad, Big Cat. Try not to breathe. If you have kids at home and they're listening to this podcast, they might not want to listen to this. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. After the Notre Dame game lost, Dan Wolkin was in the locker room. Yeah, which is one of the funniest names ever, considering everything that he talks about stands for. He's a guy that covers a sport that he seems to hate.

Well, that's a lot of college football, but yeah. Yeah. But he, well, and actually that's a lot of journalism. Yeah, it is. Like that's, when people ask like, how are you able to do this job for as long and still love it? It's like, because we love sports. Yeah, a lot of movie critics are like that too. It's like, how could you watch sports for a living and cover sports for a living and not like it? He tweeted, bizarre scenes from the Notre Dame locker room.

Players yelling at reporters. Coaches warning people not to ask certain questions. Amateur hour. Wow. No respect for the biz going on in the Notre Dame locker room. After losing the biggest game of their life, what a shocker. I can't believe that college football would turn into amateur hour.

That is absolutely a disgrace. We're going backwards. It is a disgrace, guys. I mean, if I lost a national championship, the first thing I would be thinking is, like, let's answer questions from the media in a respectful way. I'd probably, yeah, I'd probably say fuck you to everyone who asked me a question. Like, what? Like, lose my number, bitch. Listen, Dan Wolkin pays your salary. You understand that? You've got to treat this man with the utmost respect. I think we need to normalize more, like, bad losers. Yeah.

That should be fans and players. Let them be sore losers for a minute. I saw our friend Shane Gillis was tweeting last night in like...

I think Jamie, Joe Rogan's producer, is an Ohio State fan and was like, I wouldn't be as salty. And then he replied something like, congrats to Tony Hinchcliffe, Jamie, the Paul brothers, and every other really likable Ohio State fan out there. It's like, let him be salty. Fuck it, dude. I thought he purposely left young Jamie out. Oh, he might have. Just to needle him. Well, I think he deleted that one and then came back and said it. But it's like, let...

Losing a big game sucks. People should...

Like, when people are like, oh, you're acting like a bitch. Yeah, that's the point. Yeah. Like, let him act like a bitch. You shouldn't act like a bitch, like, the next day. But, yeah. Fuck yeah. Yeah, I mean, what do you expect when you go into a locker room after a national championship loss? What do you honestly... Like, I would be concerned with the team if they were just super respectful. And like, hey, yeah, I'm open for questions. Ask me about field goals. Yeah. Ask me about everything. Ask me about that first drive and whether or not our quarterback was just...

on E after that, after that, like 20 play drive to start the game. Ask me all the questions that you think that I'm going to get pissed off about. Cause I love that about journalists. It's the old saying, show me a sore loser and I'll show you a loser. Yeah. I don't know. I actually would. I think we should have like a 24 hour shot clock for big games, fans and players alike that anything they, they should be able to say whatever they want and it shouldn't count longterm.

And then you'd get actually real answers. You'd get people being like, fuck that. I also think the real irony is that the journalists that complain the most about players not answering their questions, if you question them about anything, they get the most offensive and they're like, fuck you, block. Yeah. Pete Briscoe. So you're out of here. But the biz. Biz, hot seat. No, respecting the biz. Respecting the biz, yeah. You okay? Yeah. My cool throne is the nine darter. Okay. Okay.

Time has come. So starting this Friday, probably 7 or 8 o'clock, I will be starting the nine-darter journey. Now, it's obviously impossible, physically impossible. I could do this nine-darter for a thousand years, and I would never get a nine-darter. No one's ever done it before.

No amateur that I've heard of. I've searched some forums, and there's people that, you know, Reddit threads and stuff where they're like, yeah, I've been in a league for 40 years, never been done. Getting a three-darter is hard enough. I've gotten, you know, 33 darters in my life, never come close to getting them twice in a row. So the nine-darter, I will not be getting nine consecutive darts. If that bothers you, just stop listening right now. Can you explain what the nine-darter is again?

What, a regular nine-darter? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A nine-darter. So darts is you start at 501 points to start, and a nine-darter is when you go from 501 to zero in nine darts. Right. So it's a perfect – it's three perfect rounds. You couldn't – it's an immaculate round, basically. Like, there's no – that's the least amount of darts you could throw. It'd be like shooting, you know, whatever, 18 under par, like –

It's a perfect round. I feel like getting a hole in one on every hole. Yeah, this is not, to put into perspective, because I do think you deserve this, Hank, is like,

It's not like hitting a hole-in-one one time. It's not like some of these... Like, you know, hitting a 65-mile-an-hour fastball out of, like, a stadium. Like, it would be like trying to hit a 105-mile-an-hour fastball out of a major league park. It would be like having LeBron guard you and trying to hit a three on his head. Or, for Hank, like trying to dunk on LeBron. Trying to dunk on LeBron. It's shooting under par at Augusta. It's not...

It's not like, oh, I can get one fluky thing to happen here with a hole-in-one. This will be awesome. It's...

It's impossible for the regular person. It's not even the bowling at 300. I think that you could bowl at 300 eventually. I don't think you could ever get a nine-darter. But it's similar. We're doing the stream similar to the bowling at 300 where you couldn't bowl at 300, but after time elapses, then it gets easier and easier. So basically, the plan is to do three three-darters. So once I get... If I get three triple 20s, then that leg is done. I like this. I have to get two...

Three darters. And every 12 hours, I can get closer to the dartboard. So I will be living at the office until this is done. It will be a constant stream from Friday until Sunday before the games are

And if I'm not done by then, we'll go down for obviously the game stream. We have to record the podcast and then I'll start again Monday morning. So if it takes me until next week, it takes me until next week. I will not be leaving the office starting Friday until the stream is done. And there's, you know, there's, there's some, some wrinkles we have where I'm not just going to be throwing darts all the time. Cause I'll just, my arm will, will give up, but there's challenges and different things where the first and third,

I have to do on my own, but the second leg, so that way Saturday we can have people come in and help out like PFT or big cat. You know, I can, I'm not, I'm again, I'm not physically going to be able to throw darts for 40 hours straight. I might take a break. We might have a, you know, whoever's in the office come in and they can throw darts as much as they want. If they get the first two, I always have to the third one. Got it. Like there's, there's ways where people can help me, you know, do a leg and,

But I have to do the first and third legs on my own. And then we'll have some challenges and stuff where it's like I might go in the golf simulator for an hour. If I get a hole in one, then I only have to get two out of three darts. Like, we have challenges set up. It's just going to be a golf stream. Yeah. I hate you. No, no, no. I'm going to defend you here. Do you hate me?

What are you going to say? I was going to say, I think this is a really smart way to do it. I think it's going to be fun for the viewers. Go fucking Eagles. I hope the Eagles destroy you. I think that understanding the whole point is it's a punishment. It's going to suck for Hank. He's going to live in this office.

he's making it a way that eventually you can get it, but it still is going to be very, very, very, very difficult. So again, I will back up Hank in the fact that if you have a problem with this, just don't watch. It's going to be awesome. I think it's going to take him three days probably still. If I can get to before, because that's the thing, we're going to go down and we have to do the streams and then the podcast and stuff after. So I won't be like the, my best case scenario is finishing before Sunday and

If we don't finish before Sunday, then I'm in one. It is a very, very difficult challenge that you have. And I think the act of throwing a dart, it seems so easy. But if you do it for 12 hours in a row, your elbow is going to be killing you. Yeah, I'm going to have to start throwing righty. But yeah, every 12 hours, I can get a foot closer. So I think hopefully by, like, you know, worst case scenario, by Tuesday, I'll be...

close enough. And we also have, so scheduling wise is very, so you're going to be doing it over the weekend, uh, Monday night, which we haven't announced, but we're, we are going to have a Doug stream. We, we have one last Doug stream. So I'm going to try to win a national title where I, uh, pick, uh,

We're going to just play the playoffs. And then after the Doug stream, it's going to go straight into the hole in one stream with Jerry and Tate Barstool after dark. So it could be, we could have like streams going on. Yeah, we could have. And then, and then also the case race Tuesday, it's going to be a chaotic week and there could be multiple streams going on at once. We could combine them. It's going to be fun. Um,

Hank, I'm rooting for you. I'm going to try to come in and help you out at points. Where are you going to be doing it? On the court? We have the dart boards mobile. Oh. We can do different locations. Like I said, because I'm not going to be able to. I don't want to just sit in one place. So when I want to bring my kids in so that they can play in the office, you can go somewhere else so they can play in the office. I guess. That's really the important thing here. Yeah, we can figure that out. No, I'm going to come in and help. Have you done any prep for your dart technique?

What does that mean? I don't know. Like practiced or trained? Have I thrown a dart before? Like have you learned anything that you're planning on taking into? I think it's a pretty normal question to be asking. Fuck you, PFT. Yeah. My bad. Why did you ask that? Sorry. Have you prepared at all for this big challenge that you're going to do? That was a normal question. Bad question. Listen, I see what's going on here. I'm going to take a step back.

Let me take a step in. Your guard is off. Let me step in. It hasn't been 12 hours yet, PFT. Let me step in. Hank, what the fuck? He was simply asking, have you been practicing? Have you been working on it at all? Which is a, in PFT's defense, completely normal question. Thank you. Yeah, I've watched some YouTube videos of throwing darts. I mean, it's darts. It's...

You got any advice, fucking Michael Van Gerwen? Yeah, I would prepare for it a little bit. It sounds like you've prepared for it. How would you prepare? It sounds like doing the stuff that you're doing, where you watch YouTube videos, maybe get on the board a couple times and just take some practice, figure out where the elbow goes. Me, personally, if I had to prepare for this, I'd just get nasty at darts. I'm bad at darts. That's the problem. You know what that is? It's because it's the Mount Rushmore punishment.

Oh, is it? Is that what it is? Yeah. And he's still a little upset about that. Ah.

Next year, let's just do no punishment for the Mount Rushmore. Hank, I'm going to be rooting for you. I want you to do it because... You got this. I want you to be out of this mood. I genuinely think this is going to be a great stream. I was in a good mood until you said, like, I'm trying to... Like, what? I have to fucking throw darts for 100 hours straight. I'm coming up with little one-hour wrinkles. I mentioned one and... This is a ghost stream. This is a ghost stream. This is a ghost stream. The wrinkles are going to make it better for the viewer. Meanwhile, your punishments are, like, the dumbest shit in the fucking world. Okay. Okay.

I'm good that we're getting this out. Yeah. Yeah, this feels good. I can tell that you're upset. Well, that was a triggering comment. I can tell that you're upset. You know that somebody was going to make the joke. Wouldn't you rather come from me?

Maybe not. I don't really care what other people say. Like, I care about what you say. I care about this room. Do you care when I say that I'm rooting for you? I don't believe it. But yeah, I guess. We got to keep everything in the locker room, boys. We shouldn't have these type of fights publicly. Okay? Let's keep this in the locker room. I think you can do it in two hours. No one will hear this. I think it's going to take you a day and a half.

I would love to be done before Sunday. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But also with all these streams, as long as you sit. I have tried. I have thrown darts for, I don't know, probably six or seven hours total the last month or so. And I haven't come close to a three darter. So it's like, that's my fear. I'm not good at darts. Yeah. Okay. Have you thought about getting a little bit drunk?

Yeah, I think Saturday night we might get weird with it. Yeah, I got some. We're going to bring some guests in. That's the thing. I'm trying to spice it up. I'll probably be sleeping on stream and stuff. But yeah, I think Saturday night after whatever, 24 hours at that point, there's like my body. There's no point in...

I'm just going to get drunk and try. Yeah, my recommendation. That's where it's like, that's where I'm going to be relying on people to hopefully show up and get the two darts. And then that third dart, that will be the moment. I would tell you that if you get a little bit drunk, I would get a little bit drunk earlier than that before your arm gives out because you are better. Your coordination is like, I don't know. When I play darts, I always feel like I'm much better after exactly three beers. Question. Damn. You're sleeping on stream. Are you worried about boners?

I'm worried about sleep talking. Oh, no. Boners, yeah. Oh, no. Sleep talking. I didn't even think about that. I think I'm going to do mouth tape and we'll probably just mute the sound. I don't know. I'm a sleep talker. I am too. It's a major issue in my life. Okay. Well, I'm excited. Listen, if Hank gets a boner in his sleep, nobody screen grab it. Yeah, please. Okay? You're in the locker room too. Yeah. Good luck, Hank. I'm rooting for you. Thanks. I'm glad that you did some preparation for it. I think that was smart.

Thanks. Yeah, you're welcome. Okay. So I was going to have Dan Wilkin too, but my hot seat instead, I guess, will just be me and Max's hair because we're trying to figure out what our bet is going to be for the Eagles-Commanders game. And it seems to all be hair-related suggestions that we're having. So, Hank, this is actually maybe a good chance for you. You say my punishments are always way easier. Bick it. Shave. Yeah. Yeah.

Because the suggestions... It wasn't even a punishment and I did it. Yeah, it's for a championship. So this is for the NFC Championship game. The suggestions that we've been hearing a lot are the loser gets a mullet.

Which is your suggestion, what you want to do. But he's been hearing it a lot. I've been hearing it a lot. He's been hearing it a lot when he is just sitting in his car and his thoughts are telling him things. There's been a lot of people saying that in his car. I also have a bet that we could do. We could do the winner goes to the Super Bowl and the loser doesn't.

I don't understand why we have to do a bet for this game. I agree with that. I thought the bet that we talked about on Sunday night was a good one where the loser has to make a Colts banner and put it behind their seat for a year. So it's like every time you have a shot on this podcast, there's a banner that says... But you just said the fans want hair, but you don't care about the fans, Max? No.

I just don't know. PFT has just forced this. Max is right. The stakes are already as high as could be. The stakes are so high. Right. There couldn't be higher. I kind of agree with him that you don't need to do... It's not like you're not going to care. The pinky bet we do as an extra... We don't do the pinky bet. I do it, and it's stupid. But as a collective, we, as in podcast... Yeah. But the...

We're getting into a bet culture that we're just going to fuck ourselves. I'm not totally disagreeing. You're saying you're going to have to do something you don't want to have to do that might be physically impossible, but then you still have to do it? This game already has a lot of stakes. But this isn't a podcast. It just so happens that... Listen, I understand the stakes could not be higher, but instantly when it was going to be Commanders Eagles, everybody was blowing me up saying, what are you guys going to bet on this game?

So what about the... People do want to see a wager on it. What about the banners? The banners could be good. I mean, that would hurt both of you significantly because we'll be doing this show in August and it'd be right behind you. Every time you see a clip, it says it right behind you. I like Big Tone's suggestion. He said that it's from Samurais. Loser has to hire him. Samurais or Jeff Racky's.

I like your guys' hair. I don't really watch either of your guys' hair. I like cornrows for a month.

That would be funny. That would make me laugh. That would be funny. I don't hate cornrows either because it... It doesn't affect you long-term. You just look ridiculous. Yeah, every time you talk, we're just going, what is this guy saying? And you have to do cornrows with the beads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. The problem with cornrows for me is that I've got some seedlings that are germinating and sprouting up here, and that could potentially pull the seedlings out. Okay, so what...

We'll talk about this. On Friday, we'll have a final. What did you get yesterday, PFT? Max doesn't want to do anything. I would do cornrows. I don't want to do anything. He doesn't want to permanently change his hair. I don't want to permanently change my hair. Yeah, I've been doing it. This is my hair. The thing about hair is it grows. But if we shaved it, what? I permanently shaved my hair. You have a shaved head. False. Very false. Your short hair. Look at your head. Look at the side of your head.

Yeah, well, after I bicked my entire head. You also chose to do this. No, you actually said that. You said if the Celtics win a final, I will shave my head. You did. That's insane. That is true. No, it's not. Wait, what happened? I think it's true. You're a fucking idiot. Big Hat asked Derek White being like, oh, Hank will shave his head.

And then Hank was like, sure, if this happens, I'll do it. But Big Cat set it up. Well, I asked a question. You can't ask questions? I said no to that. Yeah. Actually, false. I said that if the Sixers won the NBA Finals this year, I would shave my head. So, okay. Good point. So, yeah. If the Bulls win the NBA Finals this year, I'll get a...

No, you know what? I'm just out of the pinky bet. I'm not doing anything. I was going to say I'd get a dragon tattooed on my back. I'll say if the Washington Wizards win the NBA championship, I will get Bub Carrington's face tattooed on my face. Okay, nice. Nice. All right, wait. So we'll figure this out Friday.

Yes, we'll do something. We will do something. We will do something. Will PMTV have eyebrows? Memes are saying eyebrows. Eyebrows. I like eyebrows. Eyebrows is good. Does eyebrows come back? Yeah. Yeah. Max reacting without eyebrows being great. Oh, man. Yeah. Full body wax? Yeah. Eyebrows is good. Eyebrows is good. Eyebrows is really good. I don't like eyebrows. Eyebrows is good. You can't even see yours. You can't even see yours. I don't like eyebrows. I still love my eyebrows. It's the one part of my body and my calves I feel really good about.

Max is touching his eyebrows right now. All right. And your cool throne? My cool throne is bulletin board material because Andy Reid is leaning into the bulletin board material hard, which I respect. You got to do it. You got to find it. But he must have a team of people that are out there, and he's put them in a room saying, scour the internet, scour the newspapers, try to find any bulletin board material that you can get so that we can feel like we're underdogs going into this game.

And that's what a good coach should be doing. He's gotten to the point now where he's just making stuff up, though, because he said, I presume the Bills will probably be favored, but that's all right. We'll do our thing. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. If you tell your team, hey, you're the underdogs, the Bills are favored, good. You can just lie about that. And it's all good. But, yeah, he's been looking out there. And the fans have, too, which I, again, full respect. You've got to find any motivation where you can get it. And now Max and I are in a bulletin board war with each other.

Which is good. This is healthy stuff. But it's like every team. You have to feel bad to make yourself work. I mean, the ultimate bulletin board material was losing to Michigan if you're Ohio State. That was the best thing they could have ever hoped for in order to motivate them to galvanize and come together. So, yeah, if you're a Chiefs fan, I would just deputize yourself as an internet sleuth. Find whatever bulletin board material you can get and send it to the Chiefs.

because they're scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to find it now. Yeah. I saw that clip. I was like, this is just not true. Not true. But it doesn't really matter. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If Andy Reid says it, it's true. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is Carlos Alcaraz because he got fucking worked. Oh,

By Djokovic, the GOAT. What was your favorite part of the match? It was when Djokovic beat him 3-1. Mm-hmm. Ugh!

And Djokovic is 37 years old. And I thought, big bad Carlos Alcaraz. No one can beat this guy. He's the fucking next guy. Not so fast. What was that one year that he didn't win the Australian Open? Because they kicked him out of the country because he didn't want to be vaccinated. Bullshit. Getting kicked out of a country rocks. Yeah. That's like the coolest thing that you can do. Also, did you see that? There was already a little controversy because there was a reporter. It looked like a...

like good day America, whatever the show is like for Australia. And he just bashed good day Joe Djokovic and, uh, his fans. And then they, that same TV station wanted to ask him a question after the interview or after his first match. He's like, I'm not answering from you guys. Like, fuck that.

Oh, that's my goat. Bizarre scenes from the Djokovic locker room. Deeply unprofessional. Amateur hour. Amateur hour. So, yeah, I love the American. What's her name? The American woman that's down there in Australia that's just yelling at the fans. I don't know. She's the best. Coco? No, not Coco. There's one lady that's from America. She goes down to Australia and she's like talking shit to the fans. Like, do you guys mind shutting up while I'm playing? Lisa Leslie. They start to boo her and she's like putting her hand up to her ear. Like, give me more.

She's the best. Yeah. I love a good tennis troll. Love it. All right. And then my other hot seat actually is I didn't know. Maybe this happened and I just missed it, but I didn't realize that the Gulf of Mexico is not the Gulf of Mexico anymore. Okay.

more. Gulf of America. Yeah, that's fucking badass. We just renamed it. Yeah, and soon Mars is going to be ours too. Hell yes. Let's go. Let's start claiming stars. Gulf of America does not sound great. Well, because the thing is, I don't really under when you go to the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. If you go there for spring break,

Then it sounds like way less exotic if you go to the Gulf of America than the Gulf of Mexico. You can go to the Gulf of Mexico and be like, I'm in Destin, but you feel like you're in Cancun. Right. And also, doesn't the Gulf of Mexico have a bunch of oil spills? We should probably keep the branding there. No, that happened in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But there's like, I feel like every year. Destin, Florida is in the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. It's a body of water. Oh, yeah.

All right. So I take it back. I like that. So, yeah. But, yeah, but get to your point. The oil spills happened in the Gulf of Mexico. The Gulf of America has not had an oil spill. There's going to be more oil spills. We should probably just keep it Gulf of Mexico. Then it gets renamed back to Gulf of Mexico for like two weeks during the oil spill. Yeah.

And then my cool throne is Zuck because he was checking out Bezos' wife's tits. And that was the first time I was like, this guy might be human. Yeah. That was cool. He did a job, Zuck. Was she wearing just like a lace bra? Yeah, it was like lingerie.

Okay, let's normalize that. Yeah. Hell yeah. I respect her right to wear that. And also taking a peek. Yeah. Looks are free. But it was funny just because Zuck is the last person that I would expect to get caught in 4K doing that. Yeah, I don't know if he had a recent software upgrade or whatever. It's like you have to start finding women attractive now. Yeah. And have the capability for lust. Good job, Zuck. You passed the test. They also were like...

there was a clip of her taking off her jacket and RFK passing the test by not looking. RFK is probably just going to fuck that later. Was that not AI? No. Where she took off her jacket. Oh, maybe she took off her jacket, but it was a clip. Just wearing a bra. No, it was a clip of her standing in front of RFK and he wasn't looking down. Okay, got it. He was, she, there was a real clip of her like,

Turning around, putting something down on a chair. Yeah. RFK kept his gaze straight ahead. But no one RFK. He's just going to hit that later. He's getting. Bezos can't do shit. He's looking. He's using that peripheral vision. Yeah. Yeah. He's got the eyes. Trump also said again, he was going to release the JFK files. Oh, yeah.

I'd be sick. I'm very excited about that. I think it's a dude that lives basically in Chicago that did it. Yeah. He's an old guy. Yeah. And he was in the mafia or mafia related. Yeah. Jack Ruby was the guy who killed Harvey Oswald and he had ties to the mafia. Yeah. It's mafia, CIA, Cuba, co-hit. Mm.

Could be interesting. It's a lab? Yeah, it's a lab. It's crazy. The most ambitious crossover event of all time. Yeah, like the mafia came up with it. Cuba did the second verse.

And then the CIA probably mixed it. Featuring CIA. Yeah, featuring CIA. When I heard that news, I was like, mind blown. CIA? How did they get involved? They seem like good dudes. This dude was a special forces guy overseas, worked for the CIA and the military back in Vietnam. He was over in Laos. And then he came back here. He had all the training. He helped train the Bay of Pigs operation. That got shot down by Kennedy at the last second.

Then the CIA was pissed at Kennedy. He's one of their special forces guys that works for him. He goes down, meets up with Lee Harvey Oswald. Lee Harvey Oswald gives him the gun. It's a whole thing. It's a whole thing. But there is a guy that's confessed to shooting JFK in the head, and he lives in Illinois. He lives close by. We got to get that guy. He was not the driver. Oh, yeah, the driver did shoot him as well. It did happen. I watched that replay. Yeah.

Okay. Gene Steratore would have been like, yeah, that was the right call. Good. That's targeting. Yeah. All right. Let's get to our interviews. We've got Ryan Fitzpatrick, and then we have our good friend Stavros talking about his Baltimore Ravens, which...

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17-year NFL pro. It is Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's here to talk a little playoff football. But before we talk playoff football, I got to know, taking off your shirt at the Ravens-Bills game on Sunday, how are you feeling? How long did you have your shirt off? And do you think you actually had anything to do with the win? That was like a three-part question there.

Okay, let's start with the last question. Did I have anything to do with the win? So right before kickoff, shirt off, lead the charge, say the cheer. The Ravens get the kickoff. They go right down and score seven points. So I don't think I had much to do with the win. Okay. My voice is shot. A lot of tailgating, a lot of cheering. My shirt was off from right before kickoff.

When I got into the green room in the back where the fans couldn't see me, and then I put four different layers of jackets and coats on with my mittens and my gloves. But it was electric. The crowd was awesome, and it was such a great game. So happy that the Bills won.

Yeah, it was a great game. Do you think that there's anything different about this Bills team? Because I am leaning very, I know that I shouldn't bet against Patrick Mahomes. I understand that. It's happened before. But I'm feeling like this Bills team might be different this year. Tough environment to go into. But do you see the same thing? Do you feel like there's a difference between this team and what we've seen in the past?

Well, I'll say they look a lot like the chiefs, right? I mean, they've kind of morphed into this team that doesn't turn the ball over. They're able to possess it. And, you know, they don't have a ton of explosives in the last few weeks on offense, but Josh has played really efficient. The thing that gets me about Josh now looking at him now versus like five years ago, he's so patient when you're watching the game, he's not forcing stuff down the field. That being said, uh,

And if you look at the last game with Kansas City, he's going to have to hit some go balls down the sideline. They play a lot of man coverage. Amari Cooper was involved in that first game. He's going to have to be involved again. Keon Coleman's going to have to be involved again. So...

It's been interesting because they sort of have evolved into this team that looks like Kansas City on offense now. But I think it's their time, man. I mean, Kansas City has been so good. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes has been so good. But I think it's their time. They do feel a little bit different this year. Yeah, I mean, they do run the ball well, the Bills, and it feels like they're very balanced. I'm a little nervous still about that.

it feels like the Bills' middle-of-the-field defense is not – that's where they're vulnerable. And on the other side, there's a Hall of Famer who is now what – I think we had the stat, 14 straight playoff games where he's had 70 yards or more in Travis Kelsey. When you're watching the games and you're watching maybe the film after, what makes him so special and what is he doing that other tight ends aren't able to do?

Well, his rules are different than every other tight end in the game. He gets to do whatever he wants. And that's just something that over time, he and Patrick, I mean, they're so on the same page. So, for example, if he's got a 12-yard out route,

Well, if it doesn't look like it's going to be open, he can turn in or he can run his out route and then stop, or he could just keep running vertical. And for me, that would be really difficult because I was so much about like the timing and getting it out when it's supposed to. And, but with him and Patrick, uh,

They're the same mind. It's unbelievable. He's got such a great feel for the game. And even as you've seen maybe his athleticism come back a few notches the last few years, he's still just as effective because of how smart he is.

And you'll see zone coverage, he's going to get the ball quite a bit because he's going to be able to find those holes. Patrick's going to be able to look around the field and then find him over the middle. So it's amazing to see what he's doing. And, of course, the playoffs come, he wakes up and is the same old Travis Kelsey again. Did you ever play with someone who you gave them their own rules or had any of that free-flowing, like, hey –

We're going to play this a little different where I know that I trust you so much you're going to make the right decision and you can improvise a little.

Yeah. So there were two guys in the first one. If you guys remember Stevie Johnson and Buffalo. Yep. So we did, we did a lot of three by one formations and a lot of that, you know, the, the one was just Stevie on the backside. If it was man to man, you know, I was going to throw it to him. If it was zone coverage, I was going to go to the three receiver side. So I came up with what we called a you do you route and I would just give them the Y and that meant Stevie and

You do you, buddy. Whatever you want to do, a slant, a go, a hitch, just get open. And he was phenomenal. His releases, you know, you talk to guys, you talk to Revis, you talk to Sherm. Those are when they say, who gave you the most trouble? You know, they would say Stevie Johnson was one of the guys at the top of the list. He was so difficult to cover. And then Brandon Marshall was the other guy. Just so smart.

Um, and, and some of that with him was like, okay, you can run an end cut here, but if the safety comes down, go ahead and make it an in and a go up the middle of the field. Um,

But you have to really trust the guys to be able to do that. So there weren't a whole lot of those guys in my career, but those were two of them for sure. Yeah. And then on the outside for the Chiefs, you have Xavier Worthy, who started off the year a little shaky. They would give him the ball in space sometimes and design some plays where they could just use his speed. And then he kind of hit like a lull in the middle of the season. He had like the worst sideline awareness for a

while. He just like catch the ball one foot down. Let's get out of bounds. But towards the end of the season, he's looked a lot better. And it feels like if we're doing like the narrative, if we're looking back and I'm imagining what I'm going to be saying on Monday, I could see a world where

I just focus and say, how did the Bills let this guy go to Kansas City? How do you make that trade? It feels like a big narrative and like the next brick in the wall of sadness for Buffalo to get beat by the guy that you gave to Kansas City. But what have you seen from Xavier Worthy this season as it's progressed that shows you that he's becoming a real threat?

Yeah. Well, I could tell you the Buffalo fans are hoping that Keon Coleman has a big game for that reason to kill that narrative. But I mean, Xavier worthy, perfect situation for him to be in because Andy Reed, he's a mastermind. He's an offensive genius. And so that speed and the way they've been able to incorporate him different ways of getting him the ball. It's obviously not all just down the field stuff. It's some of the reverses and some of the, you know, cute plays that you can really take advantage of his speed. But yeah,

I think eventually they're going to hope that he evolves into more than just a gadget guy. And he's shown he's shown some potential this year. But as you said, some of the sideline awareness and some of those things that it's going to take to be a true number one receiver. He's just not there yet. But I could promise you when teams are playing the Chiefs.

He's one of those guys that they're going to circle and they're going to say, we can't let this guy ruin the game. They're going to know where he is on every play. Yeah. All right. We're obviously going to talk about the NFC championship game and what Jaden Daniels has been doing. But a question just popped in my head that I realized I don't think I've ever asked a quarterback this. Jake Elliott has struggled defensively.

If you're in that locker, if you're the quarterback of a team and you know your kicker is going through it, what is the mentality in these games? And are you just avoiding him altogether? Are you thinking to yourself, like, hey, if we're at the 35, we really got to get five more yards because he sucks right now and something's going on with his head. How does that affect you as a quarterback? I realize that I never really asked that question. The answer might be, like, it doesn't affect us at all.

Well, I mean, it would affect how I go about the week, which is trying to instill confidence in him, letting him know that we still believe in him, letting him know that there's going to be a big kick or a big moment in the game where we're really going to need you. And I've got your back. I believe in you 100%. So it's that part of it, which is the mental part of it. And then it is when you're in those offensive meetings, especially with the play caller or the head coach,

You have those discussions of, okay, where are we thinking we're going to go for it? If it's fourth and five on the 35, like you said, this is a situation this week where we could potentially just go. We're going to go for it every time. We don't feel comfortable unless he's inside the 45. And even there, points are going to be at a premium this game. Maybe if it's less than fourth and four, we're going no matter what.

And you saw that with a team like Detroit this year and, you know, with Washington and how unbelievable they've been on fourth down this year. It's a mentality and guys take a lot of pride in it. And if you know beforehand, okay, coach is putting it on us as an offense. That's a real motivator for you to get it done as an offense. And so I think that's where I would be. A lot of closed door whispers that Jake's not going to hear, but then outwardly you're trying to, you know,

breathe some confidence into him. When you're on the sideline, do you watch the kick? If you know your kicker's struggling, do you watch the kick or do you close your eyes? I think I'd close my eyes. No, I'm always a kick watcher. Always watching that kick. Are there guys that you know in the locker room that are not kick watchers? There's a divide? We got our kick watchers and not kick watchers.

Some K-watchers? Yeah, some C-watchers and some K-watchers. Yeah, usually they go hand in hand. If you're a C-watcher, you're a K-watcher usually and vice versa. Yeah, you know that Jake knows that those conversations are happening. Yeah. Like you can have the whispers behind. Oh, my God. There's a lot of whispers. Well, it's like every conversation he thinks is about him. Yeah. When you're playing quarterback and you're not playing well, you know, and it's like, am I going to get benched or am I not? And those whispers are happening everywhere. And you walk in a room and it goes silent, you know. Mm-hmm.

Hey guys. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're happening, but it's those, those inner demons, man, you got to fight them. You just got to go out and rely on your technique and, and,

You know, just I would tell him you're here for a reason, man. You've made a lot of big kicks in your career. Yeah, you got to be careful about gassing up too much. Like then he knows like this is OK. You just complimented me on my park job that I had this morning. Yeah. Great job, Jake. You really split those lines. Perfect job. I also I would definitely like bust balls and be like, you're here for a reason, Jake. And it's because it's way too late to find another kicker.

or something like that and then probably just completely go against what I was trying to do. That's like a Tuesday. That's a Tuesday conversation. You're here for a reason. It's because we haven't killed you yet. Yeah. So you're welcome. That's how much we believe in you. You're here for a reason. The only other free agent out there that could get here in time was Cody Parkey. Yeah.

But I'm obviously super excited for the NFC Championship game. It feels kind of surreal that Washington is in the NFC Championship game this quickly into a turnaround. I love what they've done. All the credit to Adam Peters for getting good veterans, nailing some draft picks, and getting Dan Quinn on board. But I was actually watching the tape, Fitzy. This is my level of preparation. I've been grinding the All-22. Last night I watched

The Thursday night game that the commanders played against the Eagles in Philly. And I was just watching Jalen Carter the entire time because that guy wrecks everything. He scares me. And the fact that Sam Cosme, our best offensive lineman, some might say he's out probably for a long time with an ACL and he lines up directly across from Jalen Carter. So now we've got a backup coming in trying to stop this guy and

What as an offense would you look to do? Cause you can't take him out of the game. It's impossible. He's going to find a way to make some plays, but what would you do to limit his effectiveness in stopping you? Yeah. Well, you nailed it. I'm really worried about that matchup too. And even with Cosme, I mean, Carter's just been an issue, right? But with Sam being out, that's a big deal.

I think, you know, they're built for it. The way that Cliff Kingsbury runs his offense, getting it out quick, you know, making sure that some of your shot plays are the plays you're going to hold on to the ball a little bit longer happening later in drives. I think that's part of it. So getting them gassed a little bit, making sure that, um,

you know, you're getting your first downs and extending your drives. And then maybe on the sixth play of the drive, okay. Jalen Carter just had four pass rushes in the last five plays. Maybe this is one we can hold onto it longer. Those things, they have to go in your head and then protection schemes are the same thing, but Philly's really good up front. So it's not just one guy. That's going to be the guy. Obviously they're going to circle and say, we need to know where he is on every play, but big loss for the commanders. Uh,

But the other equalizers, just Daniel's and the way he moves, man. He's so cool and calm back there. Escaping the pocket is obviously one of the best things that he does. And then when he escapes up inside, he's

taking off and going, you know, I decided we had that Thursday night game, but to look more at the last game that they played. So I think Jayden Daniels was a little injured kind of in the middle of the season. I don't know if it was a rib or something, but it just looked like something was going on. So that last game, I just watched it again this morning from week 16 was unbelievable. Obviously five touchdown passes, but he ran for 81 yards as well.

That's going to be a huge factor in the game. And then just confused at why the Eagles didn't run the ball more in the second half. It was kind of a weird game plan after Jalen Hurts went down. But

The commanders are going to have to score a bunch of points to win this game, but the great thing about that is they're explosive, and they can, and they've showed it, and they've scored 40 points a bunch of times this year. They just did it versus Detroit. Yeah. Is Jalen Hurts good? I think he's good. Good question. But there's some times where I don't know, but I do... If you ask me, it comes to your head. Jalen Hurts is good, but then sometimes I watch him, I'm like, wait, is he? Yeah, I mean...

You know, you get in trouble for making quarterback there. I do all the time, especially now that I'm new to Twitter. Oh, my God. The Eagles fans hate me. I saw you got roasted for saying Justin Herbert's a top 10 quarterback. Yeah. I think I said he's a top 8, but not a top 5. He's not on the Mount Rushmore at the top 4. Yeah.

Oh my God. But it's also like, then there's restraint of, I don't, I'm not going to do a victory lap. I'm not rooting against the guy. And I hate that, you know, he had the playoff game that he had and they lost, but,

But with Jalen Hurts, I go back to the game in the Super Bowl versus the Chiefs. He had one fumble, but other than that, he was lights out that whole game. On the biggest stage, he was unbelievable. I think they have struggled a little bit in the rhythm passing game. I think when he has to throw the ball over the middle and not to the outsides, that's where he struggles a little bit more. But he's an elite go ball thrower. He's got a great deep ball. They've obviously got two guys that can go and get it.

But the addition of Saquon, you know, it just plays into the strengths of what he is as well. Like Jalen hurts is an elite runner and you know, he's, we'll see what happens with his knee and how healthy he is when he comes out. But yeah,

Jalen Hurts is the perfect quarterback for that system, for the system they're in. Yeah, that's okay. I like that answer because, again, I do think he's good. It's just there are times it's more, I guess, the Eagles offense at times is like, what am I watching? Because I expect more because they have so much talent everywhere between their offensive line and their outside guys in Saquon.

But there's guys, there's quarterbacks, and I think we all know who they are. We have our top four with Burrow, Allen, Mahomes, and Lamar. Jayden Daniels is now in this conversation of you can pick them up and drop them in any situation in the NFL, and they're going to be elite. And then there's other guys that you could sprinkle around and put them in the right systems. And I think Tua's like that. I think Brock's like that. I think Jalen's probably like that.

where if you get them in the right spot, then they can be as good as anybody, but you can't necessarily pick them up and drop them in any situation and have them be elite. I think that's a fair answer. Yeah, I think it's fair. People are going to be very angry at you. I'm going to get smug because I know I'm going to get smug.

You put him in with Tua and Brock Purdy, that's sending out a signal to Eagles fans. Those are good quarterbacks. Like, attack me, please. Max, what are your thoughts? Those are good quarterbacks, Max. No, I'm fine with what he just said. I think that makes sense. He didn't say he's a...

The rest of the media world right now is painting Jalen Hurts to be the worst quarterback in the NFL. I think he's good. There's never been a team that has more bulletin board material while also being the Super Bowl favorites in the Philadelphia Eagles. Well, they're Super Bowl favorites not because they're the best. They're not viewed as the best team. What did I just say? They're the most likely to make the Super Bowl out of all four teams. The Chiefs and the Bills have to play each other. That's why the odds are the...

for the Eagles. I said what I said. And wouldn't that be giving bulletin board material to the commanders? Correct. Yeah. No, no. If you go around and see what people are saying. We're having a conversation over here. I don't know how many people have made this comparison, and I'll just dig myself a deeper hole, but what do you think about the Jalen Hurts and Russell Wilson, like a young Russell Wilson comparison? Oh, I don't hate that. Russell Wilson was good.

He was great. He was good. He's still like their elite goalball throwers. They throw it great down the field. They're also both very good runners, especially young Russ, and they win. Yeah. I like that. And I don't think that the Eagles are going to have Jalen Hurts throw a slant route at the one-yard line in the Super Bowl. That's a tush-push. Imagine if they didn't tush-push. That would be incredible. That would be the worst mistake ever. Yeah. The goat one-two punch, peanut butter and chocolate.

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So in watching Saquon Barkley, I think that the commanders have done a decent job. Nobody does a great job of stopping Saquon. You can't really stop him, especially when that offensive line gets moving to the side and they start going downhill. How do you limit his big plays? Is it possible? I don't know that it's possible. I think you do go into this game saying, all right, the main focus is going to be on Saquon.

But that means you're going to have one-on-ones on the outside. And like I just said, he's an elite goalball thrower. So with Devontae Smith and A.J. Brown on the outside, it makes it difficult. So it's a pick-your-poison type thing. But I would go into the game saying that. I mean, you have to stop Saquon.

That being said, you know, the other way you combat that is you possess the ball. And when you have fourth and six or less, you go for it on offense, which is the formula that Washington has pretty much used all year and being really aggressive on fourth down. Um,

and then they've got to light up the scoreboard. They know going into this game, this isn't going to be the same game that the Buffalo-Kansas City game is. That game is going to be 24 to 23, 27 to 22, whatever it's going to be. This one, in order for Washington to win the game, they've got to score 30-plus points and maybe 40 to win this game. Yeah, I've been doing a lot of reading about Jaden recently and his use of virtual reality and how he started doing that at LSU. Yeah.

And so that's like a very important part of his prep at LSU. That's what kind of changed his whole momentum around was he started doing this virtual reality stuff for like 45 minutes, an hour, three days a week, where he would get reps in against a simulated defense.

and it allowed him to see and think a lot quicker when he was playing on Saturdays. And the commander's invested in that same company, and now he's just like – he's living in the metaverse three days a week, and by the time he hits the field on Sunday, he's ready to go. Have you tried using the virtual reality stuff? I did. They started to incorporate it a little bit into the NFL my last few years, and I didn't like it at all. Yeah? It just – I think –

Maybe it's just what he's grown up with. But, yeah, it's obviously working, and maybe I should have done it more. But he also has that thing where if he doesn't like what he sees, he just takes off and runs, and nobody can catch him, which is really effective too. Yeah. Did you have that? That's a pretty good strategy, yeah. But between the way that he throws the deep ball

And the way that he processes, there's one play in particular in that last game. It's cover zero. He's got two guys free coming at him. And every quarterback in the league, you're taking the flat route. You're throwing it at your hot throw. You've got an unblock guy. He just takes two more steps back. The hot throw is covered. And then he finds Zach Ertz on a seven route to the outside. He throws it three steps before Ertz is out of his break, right in stride. And it's like, what planet is this guy from?

you know, between the athleticism, his ability to throw it accurately and now his ability to process the,

the calmness, the poise under pressure. It's unbelievable and something we haven't seen recently. It's from the metaverse. Yeah. I got to ask you a question about your Twitter account because, and this was like a month ago, but I was heavily invested in an ongoing saga that you had. Oh, I was going to ask the same question. Yeah. I'm happy you're bringing this up. You got a shot putt ball stuck in a golf hole and you couldn't get it out. I guess my first question is why do you have a shot putt ball?

Yeah. So it's the first time I got something stuck in a hole that I couldn't get it out. And, uh,

My brother lives next door, so his son is becoming a shot putter. And so his little shit five-year-old son brought the shot put ball over to our backyard and thought it'd be fun to get it in the hole. It literally was the perfect size. It was the perfect size to where it couldn't have been any bigger and fit in there. There was nothing I could do. And I love your suggestion, but...

I couldn't put any liquids in there because there's sand underneath the hole and it just would have dissipated underneath the hole. So it was an absolute saga that ended like you thought it would, which was brute force and just destroying the fake green and the hole. But it was a fun two hours. I loved it because it was Harvard guy.

Fitzy trying to use all the brain power in the world, trying to problem solve this. And at the end of the day, sometimes something as simple as a ball getting stuck in a hole, you just have to be a man about it. Well, that's what I was hoping Elon was going to chime in, like the submarine thing that he did and this whole SpaceX thing. I don't know what he would have suggested. My three butter knives and two two-by-fours and trying to wedge it out of there didn't work.

I don't think my wife follows me on Twitter. I don't think she has an account. So she doesn't know that the three butter knives got broken and are still missing. Yeah. But it's going to come up one day for sure. Now she does. She might be an AWL. Yeah, she listens. I would have just covered up the hole, made a new hole somewhere else and been like, that's it. Sold the house. That hole's done. Yeah. Yeah. Like we're done with that one. That was my favorite suggestion that somebody made was like, when are you moving? Yeah. Why not just be...

Imagine the real estate agent being like, this is an incredible house, got great bones, but there's one thing we have to disclose before you sign. There's a shot put in the hole in the backyard.

It's like, ooh, I don't think so. We're not buying this one. I'll get the murder house down the street instead. It was an incredible saga. All right, so are you picking these games? I know that you want the Bills. I mean, are we going to get maybe a Ryan Fitzpatrick Super Bowl, Bills Commanders? That would be, would you be the bell of the ball? Maybe do the coin toss? Yeah.

PFT, you know, a lot of people are saying, you know, this is the most excitement they've had at quarterback in Washington since 2021. Yeah, I would agree. That game against the Dolphins, man, who can forget? Yeah. So who –

Now, you guys kind of taught me this. I have my own podcast with Andrew Whitworth, and I just said that the Eagles were going to win. But on here, can I say the Commanders are going to win? So then you can play both takes. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. So I think the Bills are going to win. And let's go with the Commanders. Bills, Commanders, and the Super Bowl. I love that. That's a really good call. Good pick. Yeah, there you go. Another question about the Chiefs-Bills game.

Is there anything that Sean McDermott can do this week leading up to it where he's like... Because you don't want to play tentative, but we obviously saw what happened with the Texans where they're going to call those flags or...

Do you think maybe the NFL is like, man, we can't have these flags again, so we're going to make sure that this game doesn't have another controversial call with Patrick Mahomes sliding or running out of bounds late? How is that going to play out in your head? Well, so it was really funny, the second personal foul, Patrick Mahomes, when he kind of danced around and went down and got crunched by the two guys –

I'm complaining like, oh, my God, I can't believe he did that. He's baiting him into getting the flag. And then my buddy next to me was like, yeah, but Josh does that sometimes too. True. But both these guys have learned how to weaponize that a little bit, which you try to take that out of the game in the offseason.

But do you know who the crew is? It's either Hockley or Cleet Blakeman, maybe. It's Cleet Blakeman for the AFC. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, the good thing is these are the best of the best. So Cleet and his crew, they do a great job. They're obviously, you know, you go into the game and –

As a head coach, you have a list of things you tell the refs beforehand. They're going to say, hey, their tackles leave early. Patrick Mahomes isn't running out of bounds. You'll have that checklist of things that you're going to say, we want to alert you to these and vice versa. They'll do the same thing with the bills. But

We got to just hope for the best. These are the best crews that we have. These guys both, Hockley on the other side, other than being very long-winded and liking the spotlight like his father, and Blakeman are both very good at what they do. Yeah. I just want the game to not have any of that bullshit. And if it does, I hope it has it equally on both sides. I hope that they officiate the same way for Josh as they do for Patrick. And in that event, you can just be like, well, it washed out.

Yeah. And the, speaking of, you know, calls, the,

The last time the Commanders and the Eagles played, Lattimore, was it like three pass interferences on A.J. Brown? Yep. I mean, it just kept happening. So hopefully that ends up a little bit better for him this time too. He did look a lot better last week. He was a big part of that defense and how they were able to limit some of the big plays to the Lions. So I like the Commander's secondary in a shocking twist as the season has progressed. I love Mikey Sanristel.

And Marshawn Lattimore is playing a lot better. And Jeremy Chin is back there just hitting the fuck out of people. Yeah, he is. So I'm okay with where we're at. I never thought we'd be a great defense this year. I just want us to be kind of middle of the road, and I think we've officially reached that tier. Well, and if you're middle of the road on defense, you've got to create turnovers, right? You've got to have some big plays. Because even going back to the Buffalo game this last weekend –

Their defense played good. They didn't play great, but they got three turnovers, you know, and that was the huge difference in the game. So it's like, you think back to the Mark Andrews had a catch. He was wide open. Nobody was near him. And then, you know, they're driving down to score, but Terrell Bernard comes and punches that ball out. So opportunistic, you know, that's going to be the big word for these defenses because they,

I would say Kansas city and Philly probably have the two best defenses that are left, but the bills have been very opportunistic this year and the way they force turnovers and Washington's going to need the same thing versus Philly this weekend. Yeah. I had one more question for you about the bills because you, you danced around the NFL a little bit. You had a lot of flings. You had a lot of one night stands in the NFL, but the bills, they were like your longterm relationship and you settled in nicely there. They paid you a good amount of money. That must've been pretty cool. Um,

But it feels like the Bills fans have a different place in your heart from everybody else in the NFL. What was the moment where you realized that Bills fans are different and you really like this place? Well, I'll say my favorite moment as a Bill was 2011, which was my third year there. And early in the season, we beat the Patriots at home. And that was when...

I think people on the team that were new really understood what the mafia is and how much football means to them because we hadn't beat the Patriots in forever. It had been forever. Tom Brady obviously owned the Bills, owned the division forever. And the appreciation after that game and the tears and the joy from all the fans, that was a moment that I'll never forget where it was like,

all right, I can mess with these guys. Like this is, this is, these are my dudes. These are my people. And there's also just, you know, flying back there for Sunday. It's like the weather is shitty, you know,

You don't know if it's going to snow two feet or two inches. The wind's blowing. It's cold. But everybody's out there in the parking lot with a smile on their face because they live for Bills football. And the Bills went 10-0 at home this year. So they rewarded them with a great season. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the best. We've made a couple trips, obviously, to Buffalo. And we love Josh. And their fan base is...

It's just the passion and pride in Buffalo, it's really cool to see. And they're also like, if you just laid out what fan base likes to drink beer and eat wings and fart in their Zubas. Mm-hmm.

You know, that's it's a good life. It's a good life. Do you guys see the belt in the background here? Yeah. Yeah. So this guy was in our section. He came over. I had my three boys with me, 17, 16 and five. And he's like falling over. He's dressed like Macho Man Randy Savage. And he gave my five year old that belt. And he was so excited. And then later he came. One of his buddies came back because I think he was fairly inebriated. And he was like, hey, can my friend have his belt back?

And I was like, hey, I'm sorry my five-year-old was clutching it. He slept with it last night. I'm like, look, I can get you another belt, but I don't think we're going to get it away from him. You gave it to him. Yeah. You can't. Taking that away from a five-year-old at a game is like you just basically should just get back in the car because you're going home anyway. Like that would be meltdown city. All right. So, Ryan, I got one last question. It's a rowback question. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com.

Promo code TAKE. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. Q-Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com. Promo code TAKE. So you mentioned everyone should go listen to your podcast with Andrew Whitworth. How has it been a year into or a season into podcasting? Do you have a newfound respect for guys like us who've been in the podcast minds for a decade plus now? I do. I'd love to pick your brain at some point. We haven't had any guests yet. We've just kind of...

I think it's been easier because Thursday night football, you know, talking about our adventures, talking about all these games, as soon as the season ends, we're going to be in a dark place. I don't know what to talk about. We're not interesting. I mean, but I guess the season, you know, football lives on throughout the year, but it's been a lot of fun. I've enjoyed it. I was hesitant for a while, but,

I think I found the right guy in wit. Yeah. We're best buddies. He's such an impressive dude. You know, very thoughtful, very insightful. And then, you know, I just enjoy hanging out with him. He's a family guy. He's got four kids. I've got seven. So that part of it's been really fun too. Seven kids. Yeah. You've gotten things stuck in holes before. Yeah. Yeah. Seven different women too, which is not a good –

Just kidding. Just kidding. Love you, Lize. Love you, Lize. Everyone do listen to Fitz and Wit. You can listen anywhere. What is the last question? What is the amount of kids where it becomes enough where they can just fend for themselves? Because I have three, and I feel like three is a bad number where it's like they all are relying on me, and I don't have enough of an age difference where the oldest can just take care of the youngest. Yeah.

Yeah. And then it depends too, like if your oldest is a boy or a girl, because, you know, a 17 year old boy is not as good as an 11 year old girl in terms of taking care of younger kids. Right. I mean, the boys are, are selfish. They're into their cell phones and their friends and sports and farting in their Zubas, like you said. So I think for us, once we got to four,

That was a pretty good number. But really, when we made the decision to go from six to seven, that's when you don't fit in a car anymore. And you've got to go with like a weird kids actually call our van the kidnapper van. So when you've got to go, it's like the weird kidnapper van when you have, you know, 12 seats and you can kind of bring all their friends to the soccer games and basketball games. That's where we're at.

right now. That's crazy. You've become a nonprofit organization. Yeah. You're doing church meetups, like going and picking people up. We do have two drivers now. So now we're in a whole different realm where, hey, go pick up your sister from soccer practice, go take your friend or your son to the birthday party, whatever. That's nice. Yeah. And to the point about the podcast, I think what you're doing, it's not having guests might be a good thing for you guys because-

the listeners want to hear the relationship develop between you and then they then they get like they feel like they're uh they're part of you know a little family and then you can slowly add on guests after that you know in the off season sometimes you know in may june there's not a lot to talk about then then you start mixing in guests as a treat but yeah no your podcast is great and i love watching i love listening to it so congratulations

Yeah. Thank you. Hey, do you know who the long snapper for the Commanders is? The long snapper for the Commanders is... I hate to put you on the spot like this, but... It's not Cheeseman. It used to be Cheeseman. No, it used to be Cheeseman. Yeah, he's gone. He was there when I was there, but Tyler Ott. Okay. Do you know where he went to college? I do not.

Harvard. We got a Harvard boy snapping long. That's why you guys have the advantage. Okay, that's huge. That's huge. The snaps have been really good this year. If you don't know his name, that means they've been great. I just jinxed it right there. I should have said that. They did. Point for Max. Yeah. Point for Max. All right, well, Ryan, thank you so much for coming on, man. We love having you on, and hopefully maybe we see you in New Orleans. We'll be there for the whole week, so we've got to catch up. All right, we'll see you there. Thanks, guys.

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Eight minutes of the interview, not the best audio. It comes in fine. We cleaned it up. Riverside, which we use all the time, which shout out to people at Riverside, usually no issues. We had a little bit of issue here. It gets better after eight minutes, but it's still Max and everyone on the team cleaned up the first eight minutes. So it should be good, but just wanted to note that. It does get better eight minutes in, and it's Stobby, baby. All right, here he is. Ooh.

Okay, we now welcome on our very, very good friend. It is Stavros Halkias, Stavi Baby. You can listen to him on Stavi's World. You can see his comedy. He's on tour. He's got a new movie. But his Baltimore Ravens lost again in the playoffs. And I love you, Stav. And I didn't want to ask. I waited 24 hours, but it was your appearance last year after they lost in the AFC Championship game was so goddamn funny. And our fans loved it so much.

Fuck you guys. Fuck you again. Shut the fuck up. Okay. I'm sorry, but like, all right. All right. You're right. You're right. You motherfucker. How are you? Wait a second. I'm in fucking Chicago. I'm like, Hey guys, I got to fuck you moving. Can I do the fucking show?

I don't hear, hey, we can fucking put you on Amos. I get my fucking team loses. I go to break. I immediately get a fucking text, you pieces of shit.

Fuck you guys. That's not fully true. Fuck you. You said you were going to come back to do PMT. Fuck you. Shut the fuck up. I know what you fucking motherfuckers want. Stavi, when I saw you, first of all, I went to your movie, which was very, very funny. You did, thank you. I appreciate the invite.

And we agreed afterwards, next time you're in town, let's get you on PMT. The schedule didn't match up. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm mad and I'm taking it out on you. Okay, so how are you feeling? Bad, big cat. Okay, let's talk it out.

Am I echoing? Is something weird happening? The mic's cutting out just like a little bit. It's cutting out a little bit, but I think because it's Riverside, it'll be fine. What do we got, Max? Yeah, I think he's just peaking. Oh, you're just peaking because you're yelling too much. All right. So, okay. So let's talk it out. I mean, that sucked. That sucked. Yes, it did. It was fucking brutal. It was like...

I don't fucking know, dude. I don't even know what to fucking say. So at the end of the month, they're going to do the NFL honors ceremony. Lamar Jackson might get another MVP. Is that going to feel good at all for you to watch that? I'm not one of these motherfuckers that thinks Lamar was the problem at all. Look, that fucking interception was a duck. That was crazy. He fucking threw a quarter of his interceptions in this fucking game. He was fucking awesome. And he throws like

a no disrespect Jameis style interception where it's like who the fuck was even throwing to like I thought I was having a stroke the fucking build guy just caught it like he was fair catching I couldn't believe that but it's like okay he got that shit out of his system whatever he comes back when it fucking matters it's slippery what do you want from those fucking guys from Florida he doesn't know fucking snow you've seen his fucking high school highlights it's humid but it's not cold

The fucking ball slipped out of his hand. Okay. And then at the fucking end, he takes them down. We get the touchdown.

throws it to Andrews, and I feel bad for Andrews too because he's fucking good, but that's a tough one, man. You do have to catch that one. Plus the fumble. Again, I feel bad for him, but it's like this what? Three fucking turnovers, and we were in that game. He didn't play bad. Yeah. And then the fucking, why the fuck did we throw the ball when we were first and goal? Why the fuck did we run it four times? The whole

That's the kind of fucking team we are. We have fucking Derrick Henry. What the fuck did we bring Derrick Henry in for if we're fucking goal line and they're not going to throw him the fucking ball? Can somebody explain that to me? It's the only time in my life I wish Greg Roman was our fucking offensive coordinator. You know that cocksucker would have ran it four times. He doesn't even know how to pass in his playbook. But Todd Monken got fucking cute. When we least needed it, you fuck. Why didn't you do it? And then we score that touchdown.

Whole different fucking game. Whole different fucking game. Dude, I don't fuck. It was just like, it was bad. I keep like, it's, we were good. We didn't even deserve to lose. We were fucking good. And where the fuck was the, when we're playing Pittsburgh,

I feel like every play, TJ Watts tackling a fucking running back that we tricked those dumbasses into thinking he was going to get the ball. And then Lamar, where the fuck was that? That's our superpower. That's what makes Lamar even better than the best then Josh Allen, for example. It's like, yeah, he can throw the ball. Yeah, he can run. But also, these motherfuckers don't even know how to defend against a run defense. Where the fuck did that go? Now, maybe I missed it.

You guys have the keen eyes that I don't. You guys are bigger football guys than me. I am a football guy, but I don't watch fucking Maxson or whatever the fuck. So maybe I miss one of those fucking plays. First of all, you are a football guy. Don't ever put yourself down like that. I don't like that. We needed that. Thank you. The Lamar thing is tough because he is so goddamn good in the regular season.

that everyone expects that in the playoffs, and he has not played at the so goddamn good level in the playoffs. So it's like it's his own doing that everyone expects this level of otherworldly quarterback play. And the two turnovers, I mean, that fumble was huge. Mark Andrews' fumble was the thing that changed the whole game. But I don't know. I mean, I guess I would try to cheer you. Like, you're still a good team, and you got to just –

Go back at it, right? Yeah, I guess. And look, I know the... Like, yes, that fumble was fucking huge. But that is the exact reason Lamar can't have two three-overs. Because...

As the fucking leader, your boys are going to fight fuck up, right? And you're the one who has to make up for that. I get that. And you're right. He's never played to the standard that he plays when we're beating, you know, whatever. That game we beat Cincinnati with him and Joe Burrow doing that duel. He didn't play to that. I get that. To, you know, to suck PFT's cock. He didn't play as good as a rookie. You know what I mean? Like, Jayden, it's tough to even be like, that's the tough counter argument. And I hate how happy this is going to make you where it's like, Lamar is the man.

But some fucking rookie with his skill set, not as good a player yet, if ever, probably not as good, but had the fucking mentality to just, he wasn't, whatever. He's playing a fucking dome, actually. Fuck you, PFC.

It was the elements that got to him. I love that. I love that, Stavi. You were a second away from giving it. And you're like, no, no, I'm not wrong. You're wrong. Fuck you. Yeah, yeah. If he was in the show, if we were in a fucking dumb, whole different ballgame, PFC, fuck you. But this is the exact conversation we're having about Peyton Manning. Yes, would you rather have Tom Brady? Sure. But a cool Peyton Manning that fucking makes guys miss and is electrifying and I still have to watch football every week? Yeah.

That's how you know it's a bad loss because I'm fucking Buddhist now. And it's got me thinking about, well, I'd rather be them than you, for example, Big Cat. Yes. Now I'm like, fuck Ben Johnson. I'm like, everything's going to go bad for everybody else. Fraud. Too many fucking flea flickers. Enjoy that fucking picks he's going to throw. Caleb's going to fucking throw next year. Fuck you guys. Fuck! How the fuck do we lose?

You didn't lose to the Chiefs. That's a little bit of a solace. Not if they win the fucking Super Bowl. I know. I know. Yeah, so are you going to be rooting for the Bills this weekend? That's the hard thing because I have a lot of friends who are Bills fans. It's a fat city. Okay, I'm rooting maliciously against the Kansas City Chiefs, and I'm rooting. There's no malice with the Bills. It is like a – I like Buffalo. Buffalo.

In the NFC, I could give a fuck. I mean, you know, whatever. Who cares? Whoever it is, beat the fucking... I don't know. Just whoever does it beats the shit out of them. It sucks. Every time... It won't be as bad as last year. Last year destroyed me. I was fucking like... I mean, literally...

After the Super Bowl, here's what a bender I went on. I mean, you have proof of it. I've been sober since the Super Bowl. After that bender, I was like, what am I doing with my life? I have not smoked weed.

drank taking pills nothing because i was so depressed after the ravens lost to the chiefs so it literally put me into sobriety that loss fucked me up so bad i watched it i was in baltimore i had to watch stupid fucking red confetti fall on mnt bank stadium it sucked dick so on some level nothing is as devastating as that yeah especially like we're away from the super bowl but like

Fuck, dude. We were so good. Yeah. Our offense was so fucking... And then the defense, which was, you know, took some while to fucking come around. We were looking pretty good. There's, you know, a couple guys will get fucking torched every once in a while, but for the most part...

Shout out to fucking Zach Orr. He's figured the shit out. He's cool. I like our guys. I do. But then I'm also, you know, salary cap. I haven't looked into it. A team never stays good this long. I'm sure we're in for some bullshit departure. And we're a good organization. I get it, whatever. But fuck, dude. You know how it is. You got to win. If you're this good a team, you got to fucking win. And I'm happy to have Lamar for the rest. I don't want him ever going anywhere. Don't get me wrong.

And we will be good as long as we have him. But fuck! Every 12 years, that's the pact we signed with Satan. It's the perfect amount. It is. Every 12. Sixth grade. I was in sixth grade. I was 25. It's the perfect space out, bro. It is. Yeah. It is. Because it's like that's enough time where you're wanting more. It's a new team. You're like, oh, this could...

When you were doing your numerology, did you ever take into account the fact that it's only happened twice, so it's not really that much of a pattern? It just happened twice before.

As it happened only twice, but how long have the fucking Ravens been a franchise? It's pretty quick after that, you fuck. Yeah, I'm just saying it's only like if it was three times, then you could say, yeah, it's every 12 years. I think it was the 28-year-old quarterback thing. Yeah, the 28-year-old quarterback thing was what I – because I saw that stat and I was like, whoa, this is real. It was two pieces of numerology. Thank you, big cat. Yes.

I got you. Fucking statistics over there, PFT. Fuck you. I'm just saying, like, any team that won two Super Bowls, you could be like, yeah. Or if you're a Cubs fan, you could be like, yeah, the Cubs win a World Series every 102 years or whatever the fuck it was. Two pieces of numerology. Yeah. I'll order two. How do you feel about Harbaugh now? I mean, I ride with Harbaugh, but it is a little like, because here's the real shit.

We shouldn't have been playing in fucking Buffalo. I know. Why the fuck did we lose to the Raiders? I mean, you look through our fucking schedule. It's like, what the fuck, man? Like, why were we penalized? I mean, look, the first game. Hey, remember that lining up away from the fucking center call that we got 15 fucking times opening night?

Did you see that called fucking once after that? I mean, these motherfuckers, it was literally like make up a rule so the Ravens lose to the fucking Chiefs. I didn't see that shit all season called on the Ravens. It happened only in opening night. Whatever. We'll take that one aside. But it's like we were a fucking penalized team.

Weirdly, it's shit that's like poorly coached shit where it's like, why are we beating ourselves? Why do we almost lose to the fucking shitty Cowboys? Why the fuck did we like, why, why are we not ready to play? And our defense, like you could blame it on you coordinator. You know, it was hard to lose. It was hard to lose fucking McDonald, but like,

By the end of the season, we'd figured that out. We figured our defense out. It was all the early... It was not the defensive coordinator, the new defensive coordinator that was the problem. It was overall coaching shit. And I do love Harbaugh. But it is like...

It's nice. Not in no way is he on a hot seat, but it's like it ain't cold no more. You know what I mean? It's like, let's now I think I took out the thermometer. I'm looking at thermometers on Amazon. I haven't even bought it yet. But it's like if I need at some point to see the temperature of a seat, I'm at least seeing what the best I'm reading reviews on the best thermometer to see how hot the seat is. So we're very far away. But.

It is poorly coached shit. It is like, why the fuck are we... This is the whole point of a, like, doesn't call plays, doesn't do shit. He's like a fucking... He's that traditional old school, I'm just managing everything coach. And it's like, well, how the fuck do we lose a lot of games because of penalties, if that's the fucking case? You know what I mean? And it's like, if we're at home...

I don't think we lose that game. Who knows about next week, right? Whatever. But I don't think we fucking lose at home, honestly. You got to become just a full-time dome guy. Like, what's the league doing allowing Buffalo to build a stadium? It's dangerous. It gets so cold up there in the snow. And I have – that's another thing. That's how bad this loss was where I'm like, we're playing outside? What is this, the fucking 1910s?

What the fuck are we doing? Let's play the NBA finals on a fucking blacktop next year. Like, it's got me being like, it's crazy to have snow games. What are we talking about? The elements can't make that much of a fucking... Can't make that much of a fucking... You know, can't fuck the outcome up. Even though that's crazy, snow football's cool. But it's got me considering shit like that. Yeah, you're changing your world. Alright, so...

Listen, it sucked. Let's think positives. One, I want to say here and now, because I believe that Lamar will win a Super Bowl at some point. I think so too. Thank you. I think he will win a Super Bowl at some point. This is just, it's been shitty, but like he's too good. I just think he'll win a Super Bowl.

When he wins the Super Bowl, I'm not saying if. When he wins the Super Bowl for the Ravens, you will be our Monday guest that right after the Super Bowl. You deserve that. You will get to... Thank you. You will get to... Even if they go to a Super Bowl, we'll have you on after the championship round. Yeah. Also, you're crushing it in life. Like, you...

You made a movie. Your podcast is huge. Your stand-up is huge. Like, you got it all right now. You're probably getting mad bitches. I suppose, Big Cat, but you know how it goes, man. Yeah. No, it sucks. There's nothing worse. The week after a bad loss, it's just like you start to question why. You start to look at the rest of your life, and you're like, I have so much shit going for me. Why do I put so much into a game?

I know. And here's the other thing that the reason I say I'm not a huge, as big a football guy is like, cause there was moments in my life where I was like, ah, I, you know, do I have to watch this every Sunday? Like who cares? Like, and then Lamar gets drafted and it was like,

I was back in harder than I've ever fucking been. I was like, I couldn't believe he fell to us. It's really. And it's like, why? Why? You motherfucker. Why couldn't we have drafted fucking Mitch Trubisky? You know what I mean? Then I'd be fine. I'd be I'd be I'd be having good times on Sunday. I'd be fucking a brunch with my pals. I wouldn't give a fuck. But I'm back in because I love Lamar so much.

And it's hard, man. I want to be free, Big Cap, but I don't think I ever will be. I don't think I ever will be. And I do want to. I do want to not be a fan of anything. But unfortunately, this bullshit makes me so sad. I know. I think about that, like how cool it would be to just be like, watch the Super Bowl, like turn it on and just be like, oh, this is cool. First time I'm seeing these two teams this year. Yeah. Be the guy that doesn't know the rule changes at the Super Bowl. Everyone else explains it to you.

Yeah. Oh, is that Patrick Mahomes? He's won a couple of these, right? Shit like that. It'd be nice. Yeah. Be like, guys, turn the volume up. There's a Doritos commercial. Shout out Doritos. Okay.

Our sponsor, yeah. Become a sports ball guy. Oh, the sports is on TV, huh? And then just look down your nose at everybody. Yeah, yeah. It would be nice. I'm sorry, Savvy. It breaks my heart to see you in a broken heart. I am happy for you. That was awesome. Yeah, it's cool. But I understand what you're saying. Like, if you're looking at the Eagles and the Commanders, you probably do want to see the Eagles win because you don't want to see my Lamar get to a Super Bowl.

I get it. You just copied. You copied me, dude. You copy your own Lamar? That's bullshit. You copy and pasted a Lamar.

bullshit dude fuck you no um i don't know and it's it's also like it's also the dc thing with baltimore where it's like dc is a bunch of fucking i know you're from virginia but dc is a bunch of fucking nerds it's a bunch of fucking losers that want to be in politics it's like every s every like student government president tattletale lanyard wearing motherfucker is a dc fan that's that town sucks dick

You know, that's where they did pizza. You know, it's like we're billionaires molest children with the president. And it's like, I got to watch that team fucking win. I watch that team fucking win. No. And Philly at least is like they are a white trash cousin. There's so much similarity to Philadelphia and Baltimore that it's like,

I don't know. There's a little part of me is like it would have hurt me to have to face Philly in the fuck. It's like a battle of it's like the Civil War. It would have been a battle of brothers. It's a Hatfield and McCoy's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But anyway, who knows, man? I just I can't have the fucking Chiefs win. And they will. They fucking will. Because that's how the world works. Because we're in a time where evil prevails. Everything is going bad. Fucking Mark Zuckerberg's on TRT stealing all our fucking information as we fucking speak. They're rolling back civil rights shit. The fucking the fucking Chiefs are going to win again. We're fucked. Nothing good is ever going to come.

We got to hope for, like, President Travis fucking...

Travis Kelsey, Travis Kelsey Jr. The only way we'll fucking have him. Yeah, he'll be president. Him and Taylor Swift's son will be elected God, God, Emperor of America in 35 years, dude. Yeah. Well, Savi, I mean, I want to tell you that he gets better. You're at least you have your health. Look what a better place you are right now. They're still good. We're still good.

But this is tough. Coming off these two back to back. I know. That's the tough thing. It's like we are good. And that's what we are still. You know what this is like? It's like you have the best girlfriend of all time. Everything's great. And she just gets drunk, sucks one guy off.

I can get past it. I can get past it because everything else is perfect and it was maybe a one-time thing. But when it's dark and I'm in my room alone, I'm imagining her sucking that guy's dick. You know what I mean? And that's what this was. The fumble is sucking a guy's dick. The drop is sucking a guy's dick. Not running for it on fucking second and goal is sucking a guy's dick.

And I have to think about that, even though I love my wife, the Ravens. She's got the guys cocking Cabo, and I have to fucking live with that. And you know what? She actually did it two years in a row. And it's on thin ice now, now that I think about it. Yeah, and next year, you're going to be going back to Cabo, and you're like, God damn it. We have to win. I can't let her out of my sights. Next year, you're like, I guess we're just swingers now. He's got a gun!

next year it's gonna go bad I was actually saying on the yak earlier you know how they're flagging gun celebrations you know how they gotta do it aww

You know how they flag gun celebrations now in college, the NFL? Yeah. Would they have flagged Mark Andrews after he dropped the ball if he took out a fake gun and shot himself?

That would have been awesome. If he just unloaded the clip in his own head, like do you flag that or you're just like, all right, fair play, man. It's not taunting. Yeah. Unless you're including like the trauma that the defense would go through watching you shoot yourself. Yeah. I want to see someone do it. I want to see someone do it. That would be good. Like a kicker misses a big kick. He just like shotgun in the mouth. His, his holder takes out the shotgun and hands it to him. He just commits seppuku. Oh man.

That would be awesome. All right. Well, stop. I got one last question for you. Thank you though, for coming on. You are, you are a hero. I did wait 24 hours. I did. I did. I did turn to PFT in the gambling cave as the game was ending. And I was like,

i think i'm gonna text stavi and i was like but i'm gonna wait 24 hours so i did wait 24 hours appreciate that and you know what you waited 24 hours but it's like in my mind you text me the moment the game ends yeah yeah but it has been so painful um but uh all right so rowback question rhopac.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase q zips polos hoodies jockeys shorts i'm still laughing about you taking out a gun there

All right, let's talk positive. What do you got going on? You're coming to Chicago in April, so we'll see you. I want you guys to be there. Yeah, Chicago Theater, please come out. Yeah, I have a huge tour coming out, the Dreamboat Tour. It's like over 40 cities. We're doing a tour bus. It's going to be a big-time tour. I'm very excited about that. Please buy tickets to see me. I won't kill myself if those shows sell out. Okay.

And yeah, that's I mean, it's the tour, the movie. Let's start a cult available on demand and we're working to get it on Hulu pretty soon. And yes, Davi's World. Really, I really want people to see the to come see me live. You know, it'll it's a good show. It's a really it's a fun show, I promise. And yeah, watch the movie. We have we have the the podcast that's.

That's pretty much it, man. I'm gearing up for basically three months of being on the road. It's going to be really fucking fun. The tour, so April 18th, he's going to be in Madison, and then he's coming down to Chicago April 19th. Two shows at Chicago Theater. I might just invite myself to go up to Madison, see you there, and then hop on the bus with you.

Dude, you're welcome to do that. Absolutely. We would love to have you. Yeah, we'll be out in Chicago. Buy tickets. See the movie. If you want to see Stavi's balls, see this movie. There is plenty of nudity, my nudity on that motherfucker for sure. Yeah.

So yeah, that's it. So go to stavi.biz for the rest of the dates. That's Chicago and Madison. But I start February 21st in Sacramento. And then we end May 11th in or May 12th in D.C. So it's literally like we're doing the West Coast, the South, the Midwest. And then we're going to come back and hit more of the East Coast in the fall. But yeah, stavi.biz. That's pretty much it.

Yeah. Thanks, guys. I actually do feel better. Good.

Having spoken to you, getting it out for real. At least it wasn't festering for two weeks. I last last year, I really was depressed for two straight weeks. Yeah, it's that was bad because Vegas and everything. And just to put a bow on it, we stop. He did when he came here last time. He was like, I'm going to be back in a week. So I'll come on. I know. I know. I was like, I remember. I was like, fuck, did we? No, no, no, no, no.

By the way, those guys are funny. No shots at them. It was just, you know, of course I get the quick. We can move some shit around when the Ravens lose. That's wrong. I did say I did. My Ravens. My text to him was literally like, hey, can you come on tomorrow? We can do any time. Yeah.

I know. I last minute even said I moved it two hours just to see how open you really were. And you're like, no problem, man. We'll figure it out. We got it, dude. We'll stay here till midnight. We could have talked about anything on this podcast. We weren't necessarily just going to talk about the Ravens. Yeah, you started talking about the Ravens. We didn't even want to bring it up. Right, right. It had just been too long. Fuck you, guys. All right. We love you, man. Thank you so much. All right.

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But it's going to be flag football, right? Maybe flag football. But that guy's better than Patrick Mahomes, that 5'7 quarterback we have. Monster trucks would be pretty sick. I feel like basketball. Why? Just athletic. Yeah, but football rocks. Football does not rock in the Olympics. Honestly. The question is, your memory's going to erase and your first exposure to sports is the Olympics. I think the answer for somebody that's never seen sports before would be boxing.

You'd be like, holy shit, these guys are just beating the fuck out of each other. Yeah, boxing would be pretty sick. Boxing, basketball, 100-meter dash. I don't know. The Olympics are kind of boring if you thought that was the only sport you had. Water polo. Speed walking, they got rid of it. That's electric. Break dancing. Yeah, if we did break dancing. But if we did it right now...

Speed walking is the funniest by far. Rugby. Rugby would be up there. Rugby probably would be. I mean, if you're saying football, it would be rugby. Yeah, because it's not flag rugby. It's full-on rugby. Yeah. Hockey, if we did Winter Olympics, hockey would be enormous because I think it would still be less about the individual sports. It would be team sports. People would still want to get behind that. I think if they use real swords, fencing. Yep. Yep.

Or if they used guns for, like, duels and stuff. I know they shoot targets. That would be pretty cool. Yeah. Oh, ski jumping. That shit's wild. When I watch that, it blows my mind every time. I feel like people would be pretty into ski jumping. Just being like, how far... Because, like, the premise of ski jumping is...

is cool in its own right. Like, it's almost like an activity you would do when you're seven years old in terms of, like, how high can I go off this jump with my bike except for skis? So I feel like ski jumping would have a good run. It's also just an insane sport because you should die if you jump that far on skis off a mountain. Correct. Correct.

Not so much as a take, but more of a question. I didn't write this, by the way. Where the fuck do Philly fans get off acting like they're in the sports mecca of the world? Max is able to talk trash with all confidence. A baseball team that has been around 100 years with two World Series wins, the last one 16 years ago. A basketball team who hasn't won since the 80s. And a football team that's won once since the merger.

When have I ever said that I'm a winner? I want to... Didn't you call Philly the city of champions? City of champions, loading. That was what, five years ago? I said loading. Loading. Loading.

Did you just write this? I am a loser. How many times do I have to come on this fucking show and tell every person who's listening that I'm a fucking loser? Hank, just two weeks ago, you were just yelling at me because I was fucking like a loser. You said the question like you wrote the question. No, he specifically said I did not write this question. That's a fact. He did say that. But he didn't mean it. Not that, Max, this week we're winners. This week we're going to fucking run the ball of PFT's

dickhole. Have a good week, Max. I mean, Nova last night. Shut up. Yeah, what happened? You guys beat DC, right? They lost to Georgetown as nine-point favorites. And they're in Washington. Yeah.

Didn't score for the last five minutes of the game. So, I mean, I do respect Philly sports fans because they care this much. Correct. That's what I... I hate them when I play them. I do not want to go into the link as an opposing fan. That's what sports should be. They do a good job. The clip of the link, the guys in the top row of the link celebrating after the Saquon run with the snow coming down is like... That is pure sports ecstasy. Like, that clip alone is why they should never take away...

you know, weather games and put everything in domes. Like that clip was just everything. Yeah, I don't think Max says that he's a winner. He's just packed. Philly is like... They're scumbags. But it's also a unique sports city in the fact that they are...

They are so passionate about their teams, like to a level of scumbaggery. I respect it. I like it. Yeah, I mean, you need that. You think about Philly sports, you've got great fans like Bill Cosby. You've got Eat That Pussy. You've got Sandusky. Sandusky. Joe Pa was almost the coach there. Just like the list goes on. Don Vito from Viva La Bam. They've got great fans. Whatever. What? What?

No one even cares about fucking Washington sports. I do. Kevin Durant. Yeah. Wale. Magic Johnson. What has he ever done? This is an all caps. Head coaching interview should not happen until after the Super Bowl. Reason? Exhibit A. The motherfucking Detroit Lions. Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn both were interviewing the week leading up to the divisional game and it cost them. I don't.

They changed the rule already. It used to be that like this would happen and you could do in-person interviews. They both did like three hour zooms. I don't think that's the reason why the Lions lost that game and they have changed it so that January 20th is the first time that coaches can do in-person interviews. I don't know. You're,

I think it's okay. It sucks. There's no way to solve the problem. Well, it kind of already did a little bit. But I think it's still an issue. Obviously, Ben Johnson was getting his staff together during the week. But you think a three-hour Zoom? Well, no, but the Zoom. Yeah, I get that. And it's just copium from losing. Yeah.

I could see Lions fans being frustrated. But I don't think they lost that game because of coaching. No. They lost that game because they had five turnovers and the commanders were better. Yeah, I mean, you could say that at least one of those turnovers was the Ben Johnson play where he had Jameson throw the ball. Yeah, that was Jameson William throwing the ball the way he should have thrown it. Yeah, exactly. So I understand the— Probably called the play because he forgot that he was calling a game because he was already thinking about his—

His new job. I don't think that it's like a massive, massive thing. There's no way to really fully stop it either because it's going to happen and this is what you have when you have a good team. You're going to lose your coordinators. It sucks. So the problem with that is, and here's the only reason why I'd push back, is you are, it's,

In your mind, you're saying you're protecting the teams, obviously going deep, and it's like a playoff team – or sorry, a team that misses the playoffs shouldn't get a benefit of being able to hire a coach quickly in January. But the real loser in all of that is the coach. Yeah.

Like, if you don't let the coaches of the Super Bowl team even do a Zoom interview, they're never going to get hired because the teams will want to move faster than that. So that coach is getting screwed for their own success. Maybe you make a rule you can't hire a coach until a week after the Super Bowl. Like any coach? Any coach. Okay. I don't know. I don't think there's a great answer to it. Yeah. But the coach would lose out. Like, the coach getting the opportunities would lose out because they were good at their job. So that's where it would kind of suck. Yeah, it sucks.

They already did change it again. They made it better. Like, the fact that you have to do Zoom to start is pretty good. All right, last one. Notre Dame losses are worse than any other team's losses because I can literally blame God for ignoring my prayers. What's the point of having a dead cousin if you can't come through for a natty? BYU doesn't count because Mormonism isn't real and God hates Boston College. Okay.

Maybe that's why they don't lose anybody to the transfer portal because you can tell your players, like, hey, if you transfer, you're going to hell. Yeah. Texas Christian University, do they have this? I mean, it's in the name. I don't know. I don't know the. They did pretty good in the national championship. SMU made it to the playoff. Yeah. Are the God teams having a moment? No, not really, because you lost. Yeah. You lost the crusade. I thought he was going to say because everyone likes to make fun of Notre Dame.

But I think that would be the more shitty part. You can always say that this is God testing you. Like Bill Belichick said, do your job. It would be so funny if God were real and ever revealed himself and was like, I've been rooting for this the whole time. Or like, I don't even watch sports, you guys. Why the fuck were you guys saying that? Do you know how flooded my inbox was with sports, you idiots?

Yeah, God, I don't know. Would God be a sports fan? I think he's got a lot of, if God exists, I think he's got a lot of other issues working on. If I was God, I would fix all the sports. Yeah. So, sorry, Notre Dame fan, but yeah, I don't know if it's God that...

I think it was more like not having enough five stars. But if you want to go there, that's fine. Yeah. Blame who you got to blame. Yeah. However you cope is completely... That's what I was saying earlier. Normalize bad losing. Yeah. Give God some bulletin board material. Yeah. That's what Martin Luther did when he nailed that shit on the door. Yeah. Nailed it right there. All right. Good show, boys. Numbers? Numbers? Nine. We'll go eight. And God does hate the Jets. Three. Eleven. Five. Five.

Okay, Shane, Pug, Jack. Jack, get Jack on. 45. Jack, Jack. You said on Sunday if the Lions lost means that Ohio State doesn't win, and we pointed out that those two things have literally nothing to do with each other. Ohio State won. Thoughts? It was horrible. Okay, yeah. Maybe don't make that trade again. Yeah, I won't. Okay, all right, Shane.

21. All right. So what's your number again? Eight. I have three. 70. 70. Love you guys.