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Rianne: 作为一名身高4英尺10英寸的菲律宾女性,Rianne在生活中面临许多挑战。她提到,菲律宾女性的平均身高约为5英尺2英寸,因此她的身高在菲律宾也属于较矮的。她经常在购物时遇到困难,尤其是在超市里需要拿取高处的物品时,她不喜欢在没有男朋友陪同的情况下购物,因为不想向别人求助。此外,去游乐园时,她总是担心自己是否能乘坐某些游乐设施。驾驶对她来说也是一个挑战,她需要坐在枕头上才能看到仪表盘。她还提到,由于身材矮小,她经常被误认为是孩子,甚至在旅行时被要求出示护照。

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What challenges does Rianne face as a vertically-challenged person in the Philippines?

Rianne, who is 4'10", struggles with everyday tasks like grocery shopping, where she needs help reaching top shelves, and theme park visits, where she often faces uncertainty about whether she can ride attractions. Driving is also a challenge, requiring her to sit on a pillow to see over the dash and adjust the seat to reach the pedals. Additionally, she is frequently mistaken for a child, leading to awkward situations like being carded or given kids' menus at restaurants.

Why does Rianne dislike going to theme parks?

Rianne dislikes theme parks because she often faces tense moments determining whether she can go on rides due to her height. Additionally, she feels out of place and is sometimes mistaken for a child, which adds to her discomfort.

How does Rianne handle driving as a vertically-challenged person?

Rianne uses a pillow to sit higher and see over the dashboard. She also adjusts the seat to reach the pedals, but she dislikes when others drive her car because it disrupts the perfect ratio she has set for herself.

What are some of the social challenges Rianne faces due to her height?

Rianne is often mistaken for a child, leading to situations where she is carded or given kids' menus at restaurants. She also faces microaggressions at work, such as being called "Riri" without her permission, which she finds patronizing and diminutive.

How does Rianne describe her road rage in the Philippines?

Rianne admits to having road rage, especially when drivers cut her off. She swears in Tagalog, using phrases like "Putang ng gago" (fucking idiot) and "Fucking pick a lane." She also humorously describes her reaction as a mix of anger and giggling.

What does Rianne suggest Conan do to be culturally accepted in the Philippines?

Rianne suggests that Conan claim to be 1% Filipino, as Filipinos are very welcoming and often embrace anyone with even a small connection to their culture. She humorously advises him to use the term "kababayan" (countryman) to gain acceptance.

What kind of errands would Rianne and Conan run together if he visited the Philippines?

Rianne would ask Conan to help her with grocery shopping, back her up at work, and assist her at standing-room-only events like improv or drag shows. She also jokes that he could lift her on his shoulders for a better view or create a barrier around her using his celebrity status.

How does Rianne describe her boyfriend Carlo?

Rianne describes her boyfriend Carlo as a good guy and a lawyer, which she humorously notes comes with a lot of "hurt." She also mentions that he is a big fan of Conan and that they listen to the podcast together.

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Rianne, a 29-year-old woman from Taguig, Philippines, who is 4'10", shares her experiences navigating everyday life as a vertically challenged person. She discusses difficulties such as reaching high shelves at the grocery store, driving, and dealing with the misconception of being a child.
  • Difficulties reaching high shelves at grocery stores.
  • Challenges in driving due to height.
  • Frequent misidentification as a child, requiring passport presentation instead of driver's license.
  • Competent and law-abiding driver with occasional road rage.

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Conan O'Brien needs a fan. Want to talk to Conan? Visit teamcoco.com slash call Conan. Okay, let's get started. Hello. Hi, Rianne. Welcome to Conan Needs a Fan. Hi, Rianne. How are you? Oh, gosh, this is really happening.

Great. How are the two of you? It was very nice to meet you, Rianne. Tell us, where are you right now? I'm in Taguig, Metro Manila, Philippines. The Philippines. And how do you pronounce it again? Taguig? Yes. Oh, you did pretty well. Yeah. Taguig. Perfect. Just say I did very well. It sounded a little patronizing. Yeah. Don't say pretty well. Next time, say very well. Okay. Rianne, it's nice to meet you. And you're from Taguig, Philippines. Yes.

And I've never been to the Philippines before. Maybe you could tell me a little bit about yourself. What do I need to know about Rianne? I'm 29, but I stand at 4'10". So even for a Filipino, I am quite short. So average height for women is about 5'2". I struggle a lot.

going through life as a vertically challenged person? Well, Rianne, I am also a vertically challenged person, but the other way. So there are problems. I'm a bit on the tall side and I'm always smashing into things. People laugh at me. They play circus music when I walk through the room. So I

I do have some sympathy. Tell me you struggle. What things do you struggle with being four feet 10? What do you struggle with?

So there are a lot of just, the world isn't built for short people. I think you genuinely have it better. So just going to the grocery is a challenge. I don't like going without my boyfriend because I don't like asking for help to reach the top shelves. Sometimes going to the theme park. Can I ask you how tall is your boyfriend? He's 5'7". Might not seem tall to you, but he's

taller than I am. Yeah, to you, he's like the rock, you know? Exactly. Yeah. To me, once you hit 5'5", there is no difference between my boyfriend and Conan. You're all tall to me. Yeah, we're all just up there in the clouds. Exactly. So you don't like going to the grocery store and you said you don't like going to theme parks?

Yes. Always a tense moment finding out whether I can go on a ride or not. Driving is a challenge. I have to sit on a pillow to see over the dash.

Wow. And what about your feet? I mean, the pillow will get you high enough, but what about your feet? What do you do there to reach the pedals? Exactly. So there is a perfect ratio. I do not like other people driving my car because it moves the seat. And then you got to find the ratio again. Yeah.

That's a challenge. You get mistaken for a child a lot. People think you're a child. They pat you on the head and things.

Exactly! Especially when we're traveling in the States, I get carded a lot and they don't accept our driver's license so I gotta grab my passport and whip it out. One time a TSA agent, we were going through so I went through and then he was like to my mom, "Minors gotta be accompanied by adults." And my mom was like, "She's 22, she's not a minor."

And the guy was genuine. You are not 22. Wow. Okay, so you've struggled with this. And do you like to drive once you are driving? And you've got the seat just right and you've got the pedals just right and you're comfortable. Are you a good driver? I...

I'm a competent and law-abiding driver. I may have a bit of road rage when it's deserved. Okay. The way you said deserved was insane. You haven't driven in years.

Philippines, you would understand if you were here. Okay, can we act out your road rage? Because I want to see, Rianne, what it actually looks like. So you're driving and then I'm in a car next to you. I'm driving a bright red Buick LeSabre. And I suddenly cut you off in my bright red Buick LeSabre. Show me what you would do.

Move, motherfucker. I'm just kidding. It's probably a lot more like, I swear in Tagalog. Wait, do you always... Putang ng gago. Do you always... Fucking pick a lane. Do you always giggle in between move and then motherfucker? Do you always go, move! Yeah. Motherfucker.

You're like the Joker with Tourette's. So say it to me again, how you would do it in the Philippines. I just want to hear it. The whole thing, the whole run. I just cut you off. Go. Fucking move, motherfucker. Yeah. Nice. Don't be apologetic. That's I mean, let's get that out on a rap track. You know?

Move, motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a hit, I think. I want her to say it, though, specifically, because you have a good, like, I could tell you get angry. Yeah. I'm the same. Come on, one more time. Let's hear it.

Just don't stop giggling. No, stop giggling. I need you to show me your true rage. Rianne, you're not talking to Conan O'Brien on a zoom from the Philippines. This is real. Three, two, one, go. Move, motherfucker.

I love the laughing afterwards. I keep thinking about how my mom's going to listen to this. Oh, your mom isn't going to hear this.

Does your mom even know who I am? Oh, yeah. My parents love you. You're their favorite late night host. Oh, that's nice. My dad thinks you're hilarious. Oh, good. Well, they sound like lovely people. I think my mom likes you. My mom likes you the best because you're the one that went to Harvard, she says. Wow. She's an Asian mom. Always the best sign of who's funny. The funny one must have gone to an Ivy League school. Okay.

Because that's where the funny people come from. So your challenges in life, if I can sum up, Rianne, are that you wish you were a little taller, right? Because you are, did you say four foot 10? Okay. And you have to rely on your towering boyfriend who's five foot seven. You don't like going to the market and you don't like going to theme parks because they think you're a child. Yes. And then you have an

Insane road rage when you're driving through the Philippines. Is that right? Yeah. What about concerts? What do you mean insane...

Exactly. Yeah. Sona, you get me. I do. I never, I never like sit in the, or stay in the mosh pit section because I'll get crushed and I will not see anything. So I stay up in the stands where it's safe and I can see things. Yeah. But also, concerts. You probably have a good view sometimes but then someone else stands in front of you and blocks your view and you want to get mad at them but then it turns out it's an eight-year-old. Yeah.

Not an eight-year-old. I'm sorry. I meant to say nine-year-old. Well, you seem like

I know that you have these challenges, but you seem like you're having a good life. You seem like a happy person. Yeah, pretty happy. I guess I've adapted to it. Like you change your personality a little bit when you're tiny to keep up with all the other talls of the world. You call us the talls? Is what you call us? Yeah. Yes. We're like the white walkers. The talls are coming. They can only be killed with blue ice. Yeah.

Yeah. The shorts have their own organization. Shorts versus the talls. Well, let me ask you something, Rianne. If I were to come visit you, what kinds of things would we do together? Well, first, I think I'd need your help to run.

errands. I think if it's okay with you, I would like your help first to just generally send a message of unity with talls and shorts in general. Oh, you want me to be, you want me to

To go with you, run errands, right? Because I can use my height to assist you. Exactly. But you also want me to be kind of an ambassador? Yes, exactly. Just to show people that short and tall people can coexist and help each other. Yes, yes. It's like that song, Ebony and Ivory. Exactly. Except there isn't one for tall people and short people. And we need that. So we'd write one of our own, yeah.

Yeah, we'd write maybe a song about how tall people and short people should all live in harmony.

Correct. And then after that... I don't think tall people and short people are constantly at war. I don't think there's a big battle. The talls versus the shorts. I don't know if... Yeah, I don't know if that happens. But at concerts, you probably have stood in front of a shorter person. I love to do that. Conan! I love to sit in front of a shorter person, wait till the really good part in the concert, stand, and then put on an Abe Lincoln hat. Okay.

Just to completely block. I think it's funny. What a dick. Yeah. That's awful. Yeah, I wear a t-shirt that says I'm a dick. Oh.

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Okay, that's weird. Or that last minute local getaway when you just really need to get out of the city for the weekend but don't want to deal with the airport. You know, I have to say, I've used Airbnb a couple of times and it always makes me feel like I'm at home even when I'm away. Do you have that? I do too. I mean, I have, you know, I have two small kids who are loud and so when I'm in a hotel, I feel a little uncomfortable. Well, you're loud too. Oh, yes. Okay.

Okay, yeah, we're all allowed. And then in an Airbnb, I just feel much more comfortable traveling. You're not a self-conscious. No. Yeah, and also, you're staying in someone's home. It's got that vibe of comfort, relaxation, normalcy instead of some stuffy hotel. Yeah. I don't want a mint on my pillow. Oh.

Hey, Blay, you use Airbnb, don't you? I do. I love it. And I will say, staying in someone's place really does add a lot. I'm a huge Stephen King fan, and the last Airbnb I stayed in had this book, From a Buick 8, which is one of the few Stephen King books I haven't read. So I actually started reading it in the Airbnb. It was pretty awesome. And you know what I do sometimes when I'm at an Airbnb? I often travel with a picture of myself in a frame. Oh, boy. And I take it out, and I put it up, and it feels like home. Yeah.

I travel with my own framed headshot. Do you leave it there as a gift? No. That's mine. Those things are precious. So if you're booking a trip soon, my number one tip is to check out Airbnb first to find the perfect place to stay because your accommodation really does make all the difference. We had a birthday party here at the office the other day, and they brought out this cake. Yeah.

And there was this really cool like flour made of frosting right in the middle of the cake. Someone scooped it out just to eat that flour. I hate that. Yeah. That person to me is a villain. A true villain. You should fire them. A monster. If I could, there's no camera I can, I've looked, I've looked for the tape. Gross. Whoever did it must pay. And I want to say to that person, if I found them and I saw them eating that flour that they cut out of the middle of the cake, I'd say, how do you sleep at night? Yeah. How do you sleep at night? And you know what? I think I know what they'd say. They'd say mattress firm. Yeah.

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Hey, Rianne, do you think that because of your size, you say it affects your personality? How does it affect your personality at work? Do you ever think you overcompensate at work? Maybe not overcompensate. Just be a bit more...

Because sometimes if I say something, maybe during a meeting, the reaction can be a little bit like, good job, kid. Great, great idea. Oh, that's very, that's patronizing. Our new intern is just, yeah. And they like to...

They always end up calling me Riri. I never introduced myself as Riri. It feels like a microaggression. Like, why are you diminutizing my name? Yes, your name is... I mean, if people call you Riri, they should have your permission. You should be telling them that's my name. People are calling you Riri without your permission? Mm-hmm. I think it matches the visual more.

I don't like that. That has to be with your permission. And maybe if I'm with you,

Because I'm not just tall, but I'm also very strong and a good fighter. Quiet. Are you? Oh, okay. Okay. And she's surprised. Hey, cool it, Riri. Cool it, Riri. No, but what I'm saying is I would stick up for you. If I was with you, I would stand next to you and I would stick up with you and no one would call you Riri.

When I was standing next to you, okay, no one would block your view. No one would be condescending. And I would be your protector, your guardian angel. What do you think of that? I think that sounds perfect and would very much like for that to happen. Do you think knowing what you know about me that I'd be accepted in the Philippines? I think there's a lot of places you wouldn't fit.

Like generally stuff is built. So I was looking around my office the other day, genuinely thinking that whether would Conan fit into this? Would Conan fit into the elevator I just got in? I think. I'm sorry. I meant culturally accepted. Culturally. Not what I physically fit through the doorway. Right, right. Are you living? Rianne, are you living in Legoland? I mean, what's going on?

No, no, no. Culturally, we're typically very welcoming. We're a super friendly population. But I think what might help you more is if you claim to be a little bit Filipino. You say you're 99% Irish, right? 100%. 100% Irish. Oh, I... Okay. So you're saying I should... You think I should lie and say that I'm... I have some... I'm part Filipino. Is that what you're saying?

Because Filipinos will claim anyone who just has like 1% Filipino DNA and immediately love you. They'll go kababayan, which means like countryman. Okay. Well, I don't want to be guilty of cultural appropriation. But if I have your permission to lie and say that I'm 1% Filipino, then I think I have your permission. I can do it. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, is it a lie or can we just not know definitively? It's a lie. It's an absolute lie. Yeah, it's such a lie. No one looking at me thinks there's any... An iota. Iota of Philippines. Of anything that's not just a white Irish man. Okay, all right. Yeah, not even a tiny little drop of anything. Not 0.2% of you. Nothing. No, it's possible. No, it's not possible at all. I could be Cuban. I'm very...

10 up real nice. 10 up real nice. Rhiann, this is a good education for me. I'm going to tell you, here's what I'm going to say. I think that...

You seem like a very funny person. You have a good sense of humor. I like Rianne's personality a lot. I like Rianne too. I like you a lot. I think you're cool. Yeah, you seem really cool. And so I bet you're getting through life just fine, even if you're a little shorter than you'd like to be. I don't think that's getting in your way. Are you in your apartment right now?

Because there's a cat behind you. Yeah. I just know this here as well. Yes. I went home and that's my cat. That's your cat. What's your cat's name? Cat. It's a type of small orange cat.

Your name for your cat is cat? Cat, cat. Cat, cat. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And that's your sofa behind you? Is that sofa? Conan, what? I'm sorry. Are you asking? I'm just, I don't know. I don't know what cat. Is that your sofa? That's that's that sofa behind you in your apartment. Is that yours? Yes.

It's called fishing. I'm the fishing magician. Can you wear heels that are as high as you can possibly want them to be? And you're like, you know, that's the thing that's cool is that you could wear the highest, highest heels, like six, seven inch heels. Have you ever done that? Have you ever put on heels that make you six or seven inches taller?

Not six or seven inches, maybe four inches, but they hurt. I know, but sometimes the things we have to do, you know, if you put on seven inch heels and then you wore a Burger King crown, you'd be a very tall, tall drink of water. It has to be a Burger King crown though.

I'm sorry. Which they would give me because they think I'm a child. Yes. Unfortunately, that's true. Yeah. Does that ever happen where you go and they give you kids toys and things because they think you're a kid?

Oh, I get given the kids menu quite a bit in restaurants. Oh, really? Which is fine. Kids menus are fun. Yeah. Do you like chicken nuggets and french fries? Yeah. Have they ever handed you- Macaroni and cheese. Have they ever handed you crayons with your menu? Oh, no. I don't think that's a thing here. Probably if it were, they would have. Okay. That's an American thing. They give the kids crayons. Do they do that with your kids? All the time. Yeah. Yeah, it's cute. Yeah. It's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. It's appropriate for those kids. Yeah.

Okay. Brianne, it's called editing and we're going to do some, but this is fantastic. We've got everything we need. I mean, it's really great. And I think you and I would have a good time if we went to the Philippines. What kind of errands would we run together?

Going to the grocery store is one. Backing me up at work, probably. Helping me stand. If I were going to, like, say, an improv show or a drag show where it's standing room only, maybe you could help muscle the crowd so I can see better. Mm.

Or you say you're strong, just lift me on your shoulders so I can see better at the shows. Okay. That all sounds like stuff I could do. Create a barrier around her so people can't stand. Yeah, I could create a barrier. There's a natural barrier that comes with my celebrity. People are like, oh my God, it's Conan O'Brien and they tend to step back.

I'm going to say in awe, which isn't true, but I could help you. I'd help you. You want me to come all the way to the Philippines so you have a better view at an improv show. Correct. Sounds like a great use of your time. Wouldn't you agree?

I'm not nothing else much. So I might as well do that. You could be like her, her, her bodyguard, you know, and then walk around. And also you add extra inches with your hair. Maybe you could pompadour it up a little bit too. I mean, just a lot of, I don't know, illusions. You mean me? You, you,

You add inches to your height with your hair. I mean, maybe she can do her hair so that it's a little higher. Oh, Rianne could do a Conan. Yeah. If you had my hairstyle, you'd be six inches taller. No, you don't want my hair? Maybe, yeah, maybe I should stick to my lane. It looks great on you. It looks great on you. Thank you. Love it. Yeah, love it for me. Just not for any other human.

And tell me just before we go about your boyfriend. Uh,

What's his name? Carlo. Carlo. And he's a good guy? Yeah. He's a lawyer, so that comes with a lot of hurt. Okay. He's a good guy. He's a lawyer. Yeah. Well, I look forward, maybe I'll meet Carlo too. Is that possible? Yeah. He's also a big fan. We love to listen to the podcast together. Oh, good. You listen to the podcast together. Good. I don't want Carlo to be jealous or anything if I come to town, you know? Sometimes.

Sometimes. Such a hard laugh. Why are you laughing at the very idea that Carlo would be jealous? No. I'm a threat. Who's laughing? I think I'm a real legitimate threat to any male. Why would you laugh at that, Rianne? I was...

Okay, forget it. I've decided no Philippines. You are a legitimate threat. I was laughing at him. Now you sound like a hostage. Yeah, you are. So scary. Well, Rhian, you're really funny and you seem really nice and cool. And I hope our paths cross. But in the meantime, I want you to walk tall because your spirit, you have the spirit of a giant.

And that should be enough, don't you think? It means a lot coming from a giant.

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