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This Is My Deal Here, Wade

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Conan: 我对天才的概念很困惑,并谈论了对NerdWallet的喜爱。我与Max讨论了他在Fargo做电视气象学家的工作,以及他如何处理恶劣天气和即兴发挥。我还开玩笑地问他是否会穿着西装做天气预报,并建议他尝试更时尚的风格以脱颖而出。最后,我邀请他一起进行风暴追逐,并开玩笑地称他为‘风暴变态’。 Max: 我是一名在Fargo的Fox电视台工作的电视气象学家。我的工作内容包括在恶劣天气下进行天气预报,以及在闲暇时间追逐风暴。我分享了关于如何判断龙卷风方向的建议,并描述了追逐风暴的刺激和危险。我还谈到了我对摄影的爱好,以及我和其他气象学家之间的‘搏击俱乐部’式的竞争。最后,我回答了Conan关于如何提升天气预报风格的问题,并接受了他的风暴追逐邀请。

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Conan talks to Max, a meteorologist from Fargo, North Dakota, about his work and how he deals with different weather conditions on air.
  • Max is a meteorologist on a Fox-affiliated TV station in Fargo.
  • He often experiences diverse weather conditions, unlike the constant weather in Los Angeles.
  • Max discusses handling live weather reporting and interactions with anchors.

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Hey, Max. Welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Fan. Hey, David. Hey, Max. How are you? I'm trying to stay warm. Oh, okay. Well, you're indoors. Do you not have heating? What's going on? I guess that hasn't made its way to my part of the country yet. Where are you, sir? Where are you right now? I'm in Fargo, North Dakota. Ah, Fargo. Yeah. Okay. That's my favorite movie, by the way. Oh, yeah.

It really is one of my favorite movies. I love Fargo. I wish you talked like that in the movie. It's my deal here, Gene. Hey, wait. Hey, wait. No, this is my deal here, C. No, no. We talked about this. There might need to be some incentive for me to talk like Margie. Yeah, that's okay. Well, no, we're not going to get into some sort of sex game. That's not going to happen. Do you want money? You can Venmo him. No, no, no. I'm not giving him any money for this.

I think it's just an excuse for me to say, it's my deal here, Wade. No, no. I mean, I'm sorry. What accent is that? It's Fargo. It's Fargo. Are you sure? I'm sure. Hey, you know, I'm sorry. You don't sound at all like anyone from the movie Fargo. I don't know if I agree with your police work 100% there, Lou. Hey! Yay! Yay! Max! Max!

See, what I was doing was a trick to get you to do that. And my bad Fargo accent brought out your good one. And so I win this round. I love that. I love that. You don't owe me any money. So, Max, what do you do? What's your which besides living in an apartment that has no central heating? What do you do with yourself, my friend?

I'm a meteorologist. Oh, cool. That's cool. And you're a meteorologist. Are you on the radio? Are you on television? Where do you do your meteorology? I am on television. I'm on the Fox-affiliated TV station in Fargo. Oh, very cool. And because it's Fox, do they encourage you to put like a political slant? Like, oh, there's a bad storm coming from...

The left wing. Oh, the left wing. Left wing. From the left wing. Yeah, the left wing of the state. There's a bad kooky storm, but don't worry. No, it's becoming Irish. It's my deal here. Hey, no, no, wait. We talked about it. It's my deal here. If I stick to my deal here, I think I got the accent. Just repeat that over and over again? Yeah, I think so. Okay. Like, you're from the Midwest. Oh, wait, you are. You're from Southern Illinois. Yeah, it's true. Max, I'm...

I'm sorry. You're a meteorologist, and I'm going to try to bring some sanity. I think you've upended this conversation with your nonsense. No, I think that's a load of bullshit. Okay. Hey. Wow, Jesus. All right. You just take it easy. You're a meteorologist. I'm on TV. I don't have to take this. Okay. You're right. I have the highest respect for you, Max. I think you've lost control. You've lost the feeling in your extremities from the severe cold. Okay.

So you are in the studio, you are doing the weather. Is the weather usually the same in Fargo? Does it get boring? You know, there's that old joke about it's really boring to be a weatherman in Los Angeles because it's always 72 degrees and fairly pleasant. What about in Fargo? It's, we do have the periods where it'll get a little bit boring, but those are fairly few and far between. Right now it's, you know, we've got almost 60 mile an hour wind gusts and blizzard warnings. So it's...

You know, it's a good weather day to be a meteorologist, but not a good day for pretty much anyone else who wants to do anything around town because it's not great. Well, bad luck for other people is good luck for you because you get to say pretty much. Oh, it's a big storm coming their way. I'm going to keep going at it. I'm going to keep going at it. There's no way to stop me.

So, okay. What kind of, do you get outside the studio much? I mean, are you mostly there in front of the green screen pointing to things like low pressure system, high pressure system, snowflakes, that kind of thing? Yeah. Each individual snowflake that comes down, I'm typically outside the studio pointing. Here's one. Here's two. Okay. Listen to me, you son of a bitch. Okay.

I'm going to climb through this microphone and come and get you. You understand me? Don't you sass me, young man. All right? I'm 98 years old. I've served this country bravely in World War II, and you're going to treat me with respect. None of your sass now. This is my deal here, Wade. Oh, no. Oh, my Lord. I'm in front of the green screen most of the time. Right. And do you have to ad lib a lot? Because sometimes I would think you're there and...

I don't mean to put down your anchor because I don't know who your anchor is, but what if your anchor just is trying to be funny and you got to kind of have to play off your anchor who I'm just assuming is, you know, he's come on. You're a funny guy, Max. You're calling in. You're clearly a fan. You've already had some good quips. You put me in my place. What if your anchor is like, and you have to deal with that? What do you do?

I, fortunately that hasn't happened too frequently, but when you're on air, it's always professional. And, um, I have no experience with that. I don't know what you're talking about, Max. Stick with me, baby. You're going to learn some things.

And one thing, you know, the news anchors, when they're reading the news, they're reading off of script. They're reading off a prompter. When I'm doing the weather, it's all free form. It's all just off the top of my head. You're going commando. Right. No, no, seriously. You're letting the old pendulum swing, if you know what I mean. Those guys are locked in. They're just locked in.

And now the weather, you know, and they'll read it. You know what I mean? That's, uh, that's, that's what it is. Yeah. It's like the movie Anchorman. You just put it on the prompter and they'll read it. Uh,

Do you get outside the studio much? Do you ever get a chance to get outside and have some excitement? Well, every once in a while for work, I'll do the weather from outside. But when I'm not working, especially when it's warm out and spring, summer, something I really, really like to do. And as I've been doing for a while, as I go storm chasing, I go driving around looking for tornadoes. Oh, really? That's cool.

I've never talked to someone who really does that. Of course, sort of the famous iconic movies about storm chasing. How inaccurate are those movies? I'm guessing they are fairly inaccurate. Well, the original Twister, there's they take a whole a lot of liberties with it. The newest one is a little bit more accurate, but it's definitely not just jam packed balls to the wall action 24 seven. It's

It's more so, you know, you're spending a lot of time in a car just driving around or if you're just hanging out in a field playing catch with the baseball waiting for storms to go up. But then it's that 1% when the storms are actually going up, that is just the sheer adrenaline rush of,

Okay, Max, paint the picture for me. You hear there's a tornado or the conditions are right for a tornado and then it comes in over the radio. The tornado is setting down over near, you know, Cobbler's Grove and you say, let's go gang. And you all hit the gas and you head towards the tornado. Is that correct?

Yeah. Whoa, look at that. Is that something you just got off online or? No, believe it or not, I took this. So you took that photo and you got that close to a tornado. Now, what if that thing had suddenly started heading, you know the way they,

When a bear attacks you, if it's a black bear, you're supposed to do this. If it's a brown bear, you're supposed to do that. What do you do if you think a tornado is headed your way? Is there something I should know that might save my life in the future? The biggest thing is if you're not sure if the tornado is heading your way or not is to find...

a stationary object and just have the tornado in relation to that stationary object, line it up. And if the tornado is moving to the right of that object, it's going to pass to your right. If it's moving to the left of that object, it's going to pass to your left. But if it's just appears to be getting bigger, it's coming straight at you. Right. And that's not good news. Now that means you, you just got to book it. Okay. Let me ask you a question.

Because this is something that I've thought about, and I think about a lot of things. I'm a thoughtful man, and... So I've heard. You know when there's a big wave coming towards you, you can try to run away from it, but sometimes that's the worst thing you can do. Sometimes you should turn and you should dive into the wave. Would it ever be a good idea... Let me finish. You don't know where I'm going with this. To dive into the tornado. LAUGHTER

Will? No, and just go with it and like ascend, ascend, ascend. And there's cows swirling around you. Moo, moo. And there's other people from Fargo. It's my deal here, Wade. No, Wade, it's my. Hey, no, Wade, I talk to these guys. They mean business. It's my deal here, Wade. And moo, moo. And you just ascend through them. Is that a possibility?

I'm surprised you left out Dorothy and Toto in that analogy as well. There's not as much fun as Fargo. You know, it's just not as much fun. Pure old news. Yeah.

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Well, you know what, Conan? You can come out storm chasing and we'll let you dive into a tornado and we'll see how it goes. I would. First of all, I would do it because I am very I do anything for a bit. And if it's for a bit and I think it'll it'll make people happy, I'll do it. And you'll just find a red wig later on and some bits of flesh. That's.

That's fascinating that you go chasing after the storms and you don't feel endangered when you're doing that. Even if you see a tornado, you think, oh, it's a pretty good chance it's not going to come our way. No, I've been doing it long enough where I have a pretty good handling on being able to look at what I'm seeing in front of me and know if I'm in a good position or in bad position. There's been a couple times where...

uh, you know, maybe we're rolling into a town and we're getting reports that the tornado is rolling into the same town we're driving through, but we can't see as much because there's trees, there's hills, and we've got to try to find somewhere to get visual of the tornado. Those moments are definitely a lot more scary just because you can't see it. You don't know where it is. Uh, and you're trying to get visual on it. Those are definitely when the blood pressure kind of goes up a little bit more. Isn't there an

app that will tell you where the tornado is. And there's an app for everything. And if there isn't, you should invent one. But there should be an app that tells you there's a tornado and it's six feet that way. And there's a little arrow.

Well, I don't know if it can be that precise, but there are, you know, when we're chasing, I've got the weather radar in front of me and I can see where we are in position in relation to the storm. I've got the National Weather Service chat room open so I can see what other meteorologists are saying. So that's always a big help. But.

Until you can actually see it for yourself because weather radar can only go so far, especially if you're far away from a radar. Gotcha. You're not getting the best picture. You can't just rely on, I'm guessing it's a Doppler. Yeah. Yeah. You know the terms. Well, whatever. I pretty much helped invent the technology. Oh, you're that Conan. Yes. Conan O'Ryan.

Oh, Conan Doppler, Orion. Okay. Um, you, uh, you seem like a happy chappy max life. Good. Is, is life good for you? You enjoy your life. You're a young fellow. You're, you're a part of a proud guild of meteorologists. Uh,

I don't know. I'm impressed. You know what I mean? Sometimes you think, oh, you're going to talk to a meteorologist. It's going to be some crusty 65-year-old guy who's like, I remember the Tornado of 57. I'm like, oh, Jesus, this guy again. But look at you. You're a very young guy, and this is pretty cool. How did you know a tornado went through Fargo in 1957?

I know a lot about tornadoes and I know a lot about Fargo. Yeah. Yeah. Fargo. Um, how to do an accent. Oh, I think my accent is so good. It scares the shit out of you. And I'll be honest with you. I can tell you just, I can see the color drain from you every time I go. That's right. Hey, it's my deal. You're waiting. Um, the color, uh, I just live in Fargo. So I'm very, very white. Do you have, uh, do you have family? What's, what's going on in your life, your social life?

Uh, my, so I grew up in the twin cities. It's a, you know, pretty close by a couple hour drive into Minnesota. So most of my family is in, uh, the twin cities. So get home.

When I can, basically, it's it's not always easy to get home, see my family. But otherwise, you know, it's when I'm around town here in Fargo, it's I've got I'm really big in a photography. So I'm taking pictures. And that's, you know, obviously, you saw the photo that I took. I'm taking pictures of storms. And and then this past summer, I got really big into starting to take film photography as well. Oh, OK. Yeah.

I'm just curious, do you ever get together with the other meteorologists? I mean, and is there a rivalry? There must be other meteorologists in town from other stations. And is there is there rivalry between you guys?

Yeah. Well, you've seen Fight Club, right? Yeah. Sure. I love this already. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the first two rules is I can't talk about it. So, but I'll let you say, hey, Wade, first rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club, Wade. Make it stop. I'm sorry. I just wanted to put a little Fargo spin on it. We punch each other and then say, sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry.

All right. So sounds like life is good. Do you have a question for me? Is there a way I can help you? I'd like to help you, Max, in any way that I can. I'd like to use what skills I have. I'm a humble man, as you can tell. All humble men. Yep. That's a sign of a humble man when they tell you. Yep. Yeah.

Uh, well, I'm going to, I'm going to maybe break the rules a little bit. I'm going to ask two questions. Cause I think you're probably not going to have a great answer for the first one that I'm probably not going to use. You have any advice? Go ahead.

Any advice to kind of spice up maybe my on-air weather forecasting? Oh, well, first of all, what are you wearing when you do the weather forecasting? Clothes. No, but come on. What are you wearing? How are you dressed? A suit. You wear a suit? Do you have to wear a suit? I mean, you're a young guy and times are changing fast.

and you're working on a local station and you might want to make a splash. You might want to jazz it up a little bit. Maybe you want to go with something, I don't know, a little more au courant. You know what I'm saying? Maybe you want to dress more like you would out on the street or out if you were going to a club. There must be a cool club near you, he said, not sure at all that there was.

You might like a shiny shirt, something or whatever, you know, a hoodie or whatever. I mean, you've got to what you have to do is separate yourself from all the other people in suits that are saying that there's some an ice storm moving in and it's going to be cold tomorrow. You've got to pop.

And if that means you get some fashion forward glasses, I love Jeff Goldblum, whatever you've got to do, you should do that is in my opinion. And you said my first answer was going to blow, but it didn't. It's exactly what you should do. Not that you're not rocking the world right now in your black T-shirt, but let me tell you something, buddy boy, if you want to make it, you've got to shake things up a little bit.

I'm surprised. That was surprisingly better than what I thought I was going to get. I thought it was going to be, you know, don't wear pants and underwear.

Something like that. No, what am I? I'm not some perv, you know? Well, you mentioned it earlier. You're the guy chasing storms around. They probably have a restraining order out against you. The storms have a restraining order? Yeah, there's a tornado that's like, they're like, that creep is, I'm just trying to do my, I'm just trying to fly some cows around. It's that creep again in his van taking a picture of me.

Storm chaser. Storm perv more like it. All right, Max, you get one more question. All right. Conan, when are you coming out going storm chasing with me? Well, not that you don't make it very enticing because you've, because you've, you pretty much explained to me that nothing happens 99% of the time. And most of your quips have been insults. So I'm coming out right away. Um,

Maybe he has like good snacks in the car while you sit and wait. I mean, that's the problem is I would go storm chasing with you, but I have a feeling that how are we going to time this? When is good tornado season? Is it the spring? Summer? Yeah. April, May, June. Okay. I'm going to lock off those three months. I'm going to get a best Western in downtown Fargo. I'm going to walk around going, it's my deal here, Wade. And...

And then we'll wait for something to happen and then we'll jump in the, you and I can jump in the van together. Haven't said that in a while. Oh, sorry. And fire up the old Doppler. Is it a 1780? What kind of Doppler is it? What do you got there? It's, I got the 1800 model. Those are fantastic. Those are great. Yeah. Uh,

Just make sure. Well, you probably have already looked into it. You got to use the correct megahertz. Max, I'm going to sign off now. It was very nice talking to you. And I like the cut of your jib. You seem like a fine lad.

Really think seriously about what I said about changing it up a little bit. Dressing, little fashion forward, separate yourself from the herd is what I'm going to say. Because the rest of the people in that station are going down, going down hard. You want to survive, okay? You're young and accentuate your youth. That's what I say to you. I'm a survivor. You're a survivor. Exactly. All right? I think we're good here. Okay.

Okay. I'm going to ask you to go and look into some indoor heating, if that's possible. We'll see. We'll see about that. Some people like it cold. Yeah, yeah. I'm not one of them. Nope, not at all. Not at all. I think it's good to have, especially in Fargo, probably some kind of heating because the alternative is death. Max, I hope you survive the winter, and I sincerely doubt you will. So do I. Yeah. But if not, I'll come by when we'll chop you up into slices and use you.

use chunks of your flesh to cool our drinks. Max, good day. Tell my family I love them. Well, I don't know them and I'm not sure you do. Max, I'm ending this. I tried. I've tried several times to end it and I just want you to say and if we go out on one thing, it's, it's my deal here, Wade. Oh my God. Thanks, Max. Bye, Max.

Take it away, Jimmy.

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