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James Kimmel Jr.
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Shankar Vedantam
Shankar Vedantam: 我在节目中提出了复仇的复杂性，探讨了复仇的心理机制以及它如何影响个人和社会。我强调了复仇的诱惑力，以及它可能带来的自我毁灭的风险。我引用了历史上的例子，如斯大林对德国的惩罚，以及一战后对德国的惩罚性条款如何导致希特勒的崛起，以此说明复仇的负面后果。我提出了一个问题：我们是否应该总是追求以眼还眼，以牙还牙的公平，或者我们是否应该考虑更长远的稳定和福祉。
James Kimmel Jr.: 我从个人经历和对犯罪案例的研究出发，深入探讨了复仇的成瘾性。我讲述了Michael Stokes的案例，他因被拒绝而犯下谋杀，以及我自己在青少年时期面对欺凌时产生的复仇冲动。我将复仇与毒瘾进行类比，解释了复仇如何激活大脑中的奖赏回路，并可能导致强迫性的、自我毁灭的行为。我提出了“非正义系统”作为一种干预手段，帮助人们在安全的环境中体验复仇，并最终走向宽恕，从而打破复仇的恶性循环。我强调了宽恕的神经科学益处，以及它如何能够关闭大脑中的痛苦中心，激活执行功能中心，从而促进个人和社会的和平。
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This chapter explores the life of Michael Stokes, who committed a double murder. It details his background, his relationship with Wanda, and the events leading up to the crime. The chapter also introduces James Kimmel Jr.'s research on revenge and how he came to meet Michael Stokes.
- Michael Stokes, a seemingly peaceful young man, committed a double murder after being rejected by a woman.
- He had a history of feeling like an outsider and experiencing failures in life.
- His infatuation with Wanda, her rejection, and perceived betrayal fueled his rage and ultimately led to the murders.
- James Kimmel Jr. met Michael Stokes to understand the psychological factors behind his actions.
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