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Sup, gigglers? Gary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shit. We can't be managed. They just got away from me. Welcome to Sigley Quad...
That's Giggly Squad Reverse. Got it. Welcome to Squad Giggly. We're running out of names. Wait, first of all, you look, you're glowing. Like, you're stunning. The sun is coming. It's just because I'm tan. Yeah, but the sun is coming in. It is giving angelic. It's giving angelic.
And your hair is like perfectly like bed head, but like chic waves. Wait, do you love me today? Yeah, I love when you're pretty.
It's so toxic. People don't talk about how sometimes our relationship is toxic. Because I love you more when glam. Well, this is the problem, though. I know that. And then there's, like, this rebellious side to me where I thought I was going to lose you this weekend because I had to text you my nails that are, like... They're grown out so bad. Wait, you know what energy you get? We can never start a podcast normal. Like, we have...
literally before we're like okay we have so many things to talk about this wasn't discussed you know what energy you give you give the energy of the girl in middle school who only wore a ponytail her entire life and then all of a sudden we hit ninth grade and she wore her hair down and it was like everyone was like oh my god did you see hannah has her hair down and it's like instant glow up
And that's like, that's you. Wait, that's how we were raised though with those movies where like the girl would have curly hair and glasses and then she'd straighten her hair, take off the glasses and everyone would be like, she's amazing. Yeah. And it was like, she was pretty with glasses. Like what? She didn't have a shield on. Yeah. She didn't get a face transplant. But yeah, I sent you my gross nails and you wrote, how do you wipe? And I said, it's not easy. And then this was just a coincidence. I realized I was wearing your shoes that I had stolen. Yes.
Yes A year ago I had like a year ago Which is like now they're mine That's just Yeah That's the rules If you don't ask after A certain couple months They're mine That's Statue of Limitations Has But I do have to say It's because it's Zara Like Right If they were like expensive shoes That would be mean But like Right
If I had a nickel for how many Zara shoes you've lost around the world. You also like needed a pair like that. And I feel like they come in handy for you a lot. That was a charity case. Yeah, that was like me doing a good deed. That was when we went to the open last year. Yes. But I had a I have a huge like open sore blister on my foot. Just from that.
honestly like one bad shoe walking in it it'll do me in for the year and I sent that to you and um you ignored the grossness of the blister but I did but then I sent you Chanel flats that I found to try to cheer you up right and then it was so
I know there's a balance to how much ugly shit I could send you. Before I just like stop responding. Yeah. Yeah. Before you snap. Before you start taking it out on your loved ones.
But when I see something really gross, I just love getting, that's the thing. I love getting reactions from people. That's why I'm like the annoying older sister. Like I love annoying my brother and he's like, why are you annoying me? I'm like, cause you keep reacting. You love putting me in situations to see like what I'll do. Well, our YouTube series, someone writes, I feel like this is Hannah tries new things and makes Paige come with her. Yes.
No, I'm not kidding. You literally act like I am your Barbie doll and you take me different places and you forget my shoes sometimes and you like stuff me in different bags and you forget what bag I'm in. You're like, now she's going to play baseball and actually we're going to shave her head off. Like,
It's tough. It's tough being someone's human Barbie doll. But it's so fun and you've grown and learned. I've grown and I've learned. So yeah, the last episode that came out was us going to a vintage store, which made me so happy because Paige was not about it in the beginning. Yeah, but it was so funny. It's also very funny to watch ourselves back because I'm like, I'm so monotoned sometimes. And I guess I never realized that. I laugh a lot.
Too much. Like I have... You enjoy your life. Wait, but you said something before we started recording, which is like so pertinent, I think, to our YouTube series. Pertinent. Yeah. S-A-T. I was in such a different headspace filming that YouTube series. Like I feel like I truly was trying to like survive day to day. What actually adds to the tension of the YouTube series is... The lore. Paige is fighting...
For her life. For my life. Paige knows that there's a show that night that she is hoping she doesn't have a panic attack with. And I'm like, let's go yoga aerobics. And she's like,
And I'm like, instead of staying home and spiraling, you're being scared. But the truth is, is after your first panic attack, I wholeheartedly believe this. If you didn't get back on stage the next day, you may have never gone on stage again. It's like riding a horse. You got to get back up on the horse. That's what Marilyn Monroe said. Yeah, that's what Molly May did.
Yes. Oh, shoot. I have to finish Molly Mae's docu, which is her basically like self-launching getting back with Tommy. Yeah. Tommy Fury. But we're happy if she's happy. We're happy if she's happy. How was your weekend?
Oh my God, I've been playing so much tennis. I knew that. I felt that. I'm in my tennis phase. There was like a high school kid. People hear like, oh, she plays tennis. There's a high school kid in West Hampton that's like, oh, he plays tennis. In the neighborhood. In the neighborhood. And I was like, you know what? Fine, bring him in. I gave him no mercy. Like 16. Okay. I gave him no mercy. Like it was at the point he was like,
Please leave me alone. If someone put me in a room with a 16-year-old boy. I felt like that fun substitute teacher. I was like, hey, but this is the thing with sports. It levels the playing field. It doesn't matter what generation you are. We're playing. It's deuce, motherfucker. Let's go. And Des was like, hey, let's calm it down. It's a Saturday. It's relaxing. I said, he's come on my turf and he's challenged me. He's come to my home.
In my personal space with his weird testosterone level. In my sanctuary. My place of calm.
and des was like can i talk to you for a second he's like you need to calm down and i was like he's coming for my throne so i whooped him yeah whooped um um if he's listening i'm sorry like stardom young it was very motivational for me i talked to his dad his dad was like this was good for him and i said if that's why i'm on this planet is to beat up men yeah that's why i'm on this planet
And then I hit with my friend Madison today and it was just like gossip girl talk. But I'm trying to I told you I'm trying to be healthier this summer. I don't know what that means yet, but we'll figure it out. Like, yeah, just moving your body more. Just that's what people say when they get in their 30s. They go, honestly, I just move my body more. I'm like, shut the fuck up. All I'm doing, though, is watching all the gigglers.
And there are beautiful houses and pools and vacations tagging us with the book. No, the girls were reading this weekend. And I'm obsessed with that. Tell me about your weekend. I had a good weekend. I was around a lot of random babies. Like, obviously, they're random if they're not mine. You go, babies are so random. Yeah.
Babies are so random. Like, where'd you come from? Why are you here? Like, ask me one question about myself. I'm like, are you staring at me? No, literally. Why do you have a stank face? Are you pooping? I met one baby and he only spoke Italian. And I'm not kidding. He judged me the whole time. Like, I feel like he was looking at me like I'm better than you. And I would agree. I just watched the Rome tennis tournament, which I feel like we should go. We love making these kind of plans. We should go to Rome next year.
And the umpire is Italian. So after the point, they're like, Quindici, Quindici, Quintaccio. No, not that. Just Quindici. No. It's so cute. Hearing Italian, it was so cute coming from like a miniature voice. No, I know. Like it was just adorable. I was like, are you ordering chicken parmesan right now? Like I'm not a waiter. I was with another little baby and she asked if she could paint my nails.
And look. You're obsessed. I'm obsessed. I love the girliness. I love a girl with a creative vision. And I'm like, here's the thing though. Jacqueline literally just left my apartment yesterday. And so like I'm trying to explain to this four-year-old that I just got a $250 manicure. And if she puts sparkles on my nails, I will freak out. Can I talk to you for a second? I love the thought behind it. I'm loving the creative vision. And I think you're going to go places in your life.
See your aunt with her bare ass gross nails. Go do it on her. OK, because I'm not your girl. I'm not your experiment. This isn't a school project. But I felt like I was growing and I was becoming maternal in that moment because I said, you know what? Have Adam. And I let her put sparkles all over my nails. And then when she wasn't looking, I ran to the bathroom and wiped them off so that they wouldn't stick to my nails.
okay but she didn't know about that part didn't notice okay that could have been bad you could have been really bad she could have been like mom when i was with lois she found my like press-ons and she started putting them on my toes yeah and honestly that was hilarious like and honestly you needed it because i'm sure one of them was bruised and falling off one of them was on its last day yeah um
I have a question about Jacqueline. Has she asked about me? No, she hasn't, but she like... Because I haven't seen her in a long time. Okay, well, we could tell. We know you haven't seen her. No, because she gets worried that if I haven't seen her, I've like gone rogue, like I've killed the whole family or I've like... She actually brought me like a little gift. Jacqueline and I went to the next level. She brought me like a little gift and she was like, oh, just like... She was like, oh, this is just for you. And she gave me like some edibles. And I was like, Jacqueline...
So Jacqueline and I stepped it up a notch. Wow, suddenly. I didn't realize having the same nail girl was going to be my favorite thing that we share in Nail Girl. And usually we're on the same schedule. She's never got...
Maybe she knows. It's because I don't do edibles. Yeah, it's because she knows you don't take edibles. Yeah. Maybe she'll bring you like a pair of Crocs or something. Maybe I've been talking to her too much when she comes over. Because I actually, if I think about it, I did ask her probably one too many questions the last time she was there. And she likes that you guys just watch TV.
Sometimes less is more. We catch up on our shows. Here's one thing I wanted to just say quickly because I feel like I've been giving the girls updates on my egg freezing. I finished my period that you get after it. It wasn't that bad.
It was a solid like seven days though. Do you always get your period after it? Is that like a thing? Yeah, you get it. Yeah. Were you nervous you weren't going to? Well, yeah, because I like wasn't getting it. And what made me nervous was I was like, is my body just absorbing all of this? Like what? Where's the blood going? Yeah, where's it going? Yeah. And they were like, if you don't get it, just call us and we'll give you something that will like make it come. And I really, you know me, I don't.
I didn't want to take any drugs. Like I was just like, I don't want to do that. I'm so anti birth control and like anti pharmaceuticals. Jacqueline can roll in with any edible. And I'm like, yes, thank you, Jacqueline. But you're like nothing. Dr. Prescribed. Nothing. Please. Nothing with big pharma. I'm really, I'm against it. Except betas. Well, obviously. So I finished my period.
Here's what I wanted to say because I don't know how I should honestly invest in what is it? Thanks. Because they saved my life while I was having this crazy period because...
You know me and UTIs. I can't wear tampons anymore. And I was bleeding so much that I was like, shoot, I have to like. You were bleeding for the whole year. Like you're making up for lost time. No, I was making up for lost time. And so I would like put a pad on the thanks period underwear and they saved my life because I don't know what's going on. I can't put any brand of tampon in me anymore.
My body just immediately is like, nope, thank you. You're so pure. Mm-hmm. You're like me with cocaine. Yes, I'm so pure. Not in Miami, though.
Also, if we're talking about our periods, I want to just ask the gigglers since there are doctors at this point and they are doctors. Don't tell me the gigglers aren't. I've seen them. Wait. What? Are you going to remember that? Yeah, I will. I cannot believe the amount of girls just backing up post baby clarity.
That clip. Are you? I was. I read everyone. I read literally every comment. What were they saying? Consensus wise. So half the girls were like in that moment, I realized I'm.
I married the right man. Like I cried for literally two years after I had a baby because I didn't look the same. My husband had to like carry me to the bathroom to like shower me. And then the other half was like, I knew before I got married, I shouldn't have married this guy. I had a baby and I stared at him and was like, I fucking hate you. And so they were like, not only is it post baby clarity, but whilst you're pregnant, you're also getting those thoughts of like, is this the right guy? Yeah.
People were saying while you're pregnant, you start to see the signs too. Yeah. While you're pregnant. But as I'm getting older, just in general, you just see how men are so replaceable. And when you're younger, it's so like, oh my God. Wherever you are, figure out the right dude and then get rid of him if he's not it, period. Slay the boots down. No, like literally...
Set him on fire. Who cares? There's like a thing where like girls are now moving in together and like mothering each other's babies.
I kind of love it. I kind of love it. It's just because, well, because girls aren't settling anymore. Like girls used to have to settle so fucking hard because they needed money. They needed to survive. You weren't allowed to have a credit card. You like couldn't live. Well, now I also read something and I don't know if it's true. No, it is true. But I don't remember the source.
But basically that because women are now making more money, we're investing into things that women care about. And like all these just companies and causes that women care about are now getting stronger. So that's a positive. Oh, interesting. Like, yeah, like different charities and different charities and yeah, things you support that you want to see more of. And then your interest because it's basically like the money shifting a little bit. It's women in the arts. It's women in the arts.
Also, if everyone I feel like everyone's talking about postpartum depression, like before it was this big like announcement, like, did you know that Cindy Crawford said 20 years ago she had postpartum? And I might have made that up, but like that's how it was where now everyone's like and then when the postpartum hit. Yeah.
everyone has it I remember like asking my mom this is probably like a couple years ago like oh my god did you have postpartum like at all because I just I when I got my cat I was like oh I'm gonna have postpartum I was like I don't because when I got Daphne the first day I looked at her and I was like I don't love you I don't know you you go first of all hello like
First of all, hi, how are ya? How was your day? Welcome to my home. And I remember asking my mom and she said, well, yeah, every, she was like, but we didn't call it that. She was like, everyone gets, and we called it the baby blues.
That's so much cuter. And I was like, and what you just, she was like, and then one day it would just go away. Like you just lived with it. And then you were like, oh, I have PR team was so much better in the nineties. They were like baby blue, baby blue, the baby blues. Well, did you, I have a question. Did you have, um, a lot of girls also say like after they get married, they have like a little bit of depression. Did you go through that? I was very just like calm after it.
I think it's because sometimes when you put your wedding on such a pedestal and it goes by so fucking fast, you're like, wait, I didn't even do it. Yeah. Did I even was that planning I did for a year and it's done. I remember feeling like it was way too fast and being like, wow, I spent a lot of money on that. And yeah,
But I remember feeling calm and a little relieved because I also had a little like I don't. I told you that kind of the wedding attention. That kind of attention is not your vibe. I don't like that vibe at all. I'm not like, look at the guy I'm fucking. Yeah. But with postpartum depression, one more thing. Wait, calling someone's wedding just a party of look at the guy I'm fucking is. It's literally in my head. I just was like, hi, aunt, whatever. This is the guy that I let have sex with me.
And I'm glad you're here to celebrate it. That is... And I hope we stay together. That's all a wedding is. Hey, Dad, I want you to formally meet the man that will be inside of me later. Wait, on this last episode of Burner Phone, Des was telling me that when my dad was alone with him for the first time, he basically was like, she's your problem now. That's exactly how I would...
think Danny would respond. And like, obviously he loves joking, but it's so funny that my, my dad was Learcock blocking me. Yeah. Most dads would be like, please take her. And my dad's like, I developed a Twitch while coaching her with tennis and it's finally wearing off.
he's like here's a number for a hotline you're gonna need it are you sure you want to do this but i also think des likes a challenge so des was like okay but anyway that's funny i deal with depression i know i'm brave i deal with anxiety do you think that when postpartum depression hits it's gonna be like two negatives create a positive and i'm gonna be like
It cancels it out. It's going to be me on estrogen. You're going to be me on estrogen. That was crazy. I loved it. Like, is depression going to try to hit? I'm like, that's adorable. I've been depressed and now let's... Well, maybe because...
Maybe you'll react better to it because you already know what those feelings are. Like, I feel like some people when they get postpartum, that's the first time they've ever felt those feelings. So they're like even more like what's going on. I do think that in general, milestones in life are emotionally challenging.
dramatic and people don't prepare you for that they're just like yeah you're gonna get married and you're gonna have a baby and you're gonna get a new job and they don't talk about like the mental aspect of handling the ups and downs of of it and your identity it's identity shifting i think you know i was talking to one of my girlfriends and she was like who has like three kids now and she was just like no after i had my first child like obviously i loved my child we tried to have a
I had the biggest identity crisis because she was like, I didn't know if I was going to go back to work. I didn't know if I wanted to or if I didn't want to. I like didn't really like breastfeeding, like all of these different things. She's like, I'm 200 pounds. Like I was never 200 pounds. Like it was just all this stuff. And I'm just like, yeah, I. But I feel like for us, because we are waiting to like have children later in our 30s.
I think that we're more prepared than like our counterparts who like, did anyone tell them when they were 26, 27? Like, Hey, you're going to have an identity crisis. I do think the pro of having kids in your thirties is that you've been able to accomplish some things where some, some women, I know women who have had abortions in their twenties. Cause they were like, if I have this kid right now, my dreams will not happen. And I actually can't do this right now. And it was like,
she wanted to be fulfilled yeah um but then some people know in their 20s like this baby is what i want right but moms do give you they give you mixed messages i was talking to this mom and she was like it is the most fulfilled you'll ever feel as a person but you will lose yourself and i was like what it's like wait no and that's why i just think like it's so important who your husband is
They were like, I wouldn't trade anything in the world except for my old nipples. And I was like, what? Awesome. Okay. But yeah, your partner is the world's... The lens you see the world through. The mirror you see yourself. And I love de-centering men. And I think that we have done such a good job in it. But at the same time, I do think that the biggest decision you make in your life is who you choose to marry. Also...
I feel the same way about being in a marriage. Like if I'm in a marriage for 10 years and one day I wake up and I go, hey, this guy fucking sucks. I'm taking the kids. I'm going. Like that's what pre that's what prenups are for. And he will be surely signing one. You're basically like, you know, it's better than being with a guy, being with a guy that you love and waiting for the right person. What's better than being with a guy is being without one. It's a fucking dream.
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we haven't even started the episode no we haven't even started the pod i have so many notes yeah i see them none of which makes sense here wait just one note that i just want to say before we get into it because this is a sports podcast yeah did you watch the knicks last night i cried i mean i cried wait are you like so into it right now i'm locked in hannah i'm dialed in i well i had two amazing shows
I was in New Hampshire and I was in New Jersey. In New Hampshire, the Knicks are playing while I'm on. And, you know, I'm being silly. I'm being goofy on stage. I go, anyone know the Knicks score? Yeah.
1700 girls start booing me because New Hampshire, I forget because I'm a dumb New Yorker. Oh, they're Boston fans. And we just beat Boston. Yeah. And when I tell you, I lost the crowd for a second. I was scared. I said, Gigglers, you're going to have to. I apologize to the Academy. I said, I love Larry Bird. I don't know what to say here. Bill Belichick's girlfriend is making me laugh right now. I don't know what to say. Sir.
Sorry, how can I get you back? Tom Brady is the GOAT. Like, I don't know. But for anyone who doesn't know, the Knicks have been very bad. A very bad team for a long time. Okay, wait. So I, like, didn't know. Oh, yeah, you didn't know. I, like, didn't know that the Knicks sucked. And so...
You were like, wait, but we're in New York. How can we be bad? No, literally. That's why it's so embarrassing. I was like, wait, but we're in New York. Like, we've been bad for how many years? And he was like, like 50. Oh my God, I'm so embarrassed. That's why all the celebs are like showing up. And it's funny because my friend was like, oh, now you guys are showing up. Well, Timothee Chalamet, he's been a fan. Yeah, he went to Indianapolis.
Yeah, him, Michael Che, Ben Stiller. I feel like they all got in a, they did like a boys trip. And like I will, I'm going to be biased for like a small quick second living in New York. Okay. When you're at a sporting event that is based in New York.
I'm sorry. I've been at other sporting events in different cities. New York fans are different. It's just different. It's a different electricity. It's a different feeling. Remember that one time when we were at the US Open and who was about to win? It was a young girl. Was it Coco Gauff? It might have been. Maybe was it her first US Open she was about to win? Something.
I forget who it may be, but I just remember like the whole place cheering for this like young girl and just being like, that's New York City. You know, like I just love a New York fan. We love a chant. We love to be passionate and we love to trash talk. We love a storyline. New York loves a come up story, a comeback. We love that shit. The Yankees have Benny Hanna in the stadium. I was like,
But not to defend other states, because I know like you have beef with Oklahoma and the air conditioning. You'll never live that down. Sometimes sports in other states is better because it's all they have going on. Like when I went to Wisconsin. Got it. They were obsessed with the University of Wisconsin because like there's only so many teams there.
You know, when you go to Texas, like high school football is like their religion. Exactly. So like, yeah, Wisconsin, when there was a Wisconsin football game, the entire state drove down. New York is actually so greedy. We like have three of everything. We are sorry. We want we want more. Also during the next game, people like, oh, sorry, like I have dinner tonight. Like there's shit going on. Like I'm I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm waiting for this reservation. I have a reservation. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to a Broadway play, by the way.
I'm going to try to go to a Broadway play. Just in your lifetime? Where are we going with that? It's just so funny because I've been going out to West Hampton now when I can. And I'm like, next time I'm in New York, I'm going to see a Broadway movie. You're being a tourist in your own city. I'm going back to the city on Wednesday. I'm going to try to see Sunset Boulevard with Nicole Schlesinger. Wait, do you know something that I do behind your back that I don't think I've ever told you? Just the way you worded that.
You know, I do behind your back. I do something behind your back where like, obviously like when I'm, when I'm places without you, like I bring, I find place, I find spaces where I can bring you up. No, like I find, I find small caveats in conversation where I can bring up my friend.
I love how you're sitting there being like, and where is a good entry point? For Hannah. But like a lot of times people will bring you up to me. And like, I don't know who I'm talking to. And I don't know if they've ever heard of Giggly Squad. So I'll say, sometimes I'll say like my best friend who I have a podcast with. Yeah, you don't want to assume. Right. Or I'll say like, oh, my co-host where I do this thing with her, but she's also my best friend. Like, so I introduce you in different ways. But I don't think that you know that I...
I talk about you being from New York as if I grew up in that, in that town home with you.
Like I'll make an emphasis and a point to tell people that you were born and raised in Brooklyn because it's important to me. Because it makes, look, I support everyone move to the city. I love it. And if you can survive, you're a New Yorker. I accept you. Do I think I'm better than you? Yes. Do I say that out loud? No. But I also, what's funny is I was thinking about that, that I, I know you grew up in Albany, but you didn't. You didn't. Your ancestors were Brooklyn. Yeah.
I mean, at some point, I'm sure. But I actually just hit my 10 years. I know. And people like I feel like talk about it, but like not really. But I remember moving to New York and thinking, wow, I wonder if I'm going to hit my 10 year, like if I'm going to still be here, because that's when you become an official New Yorker. How many times did you consider moving back home? Never, not once. And that's why you made it.
Because you had no plan B. Do you want to know what I think made me succeed? My biggest fear was having to move back home. My biggest fear was having to call my mom and being like, I can't afford rent. I can't afford it here. Like, I can't do anything. I got to come back. And you were like, I'm not. And I was like, I can't. I can't. It's so funny because then as a New Yorker, all you want to do is like. Escape the city. Go to the Hamptons. Yeah.
I'm like, it's so fucking, like, concrete. It's so cliche. I'm like, I have to get out for a minute. Anywho, okay. What were we saying? Oh, yeah, my notes. I have notes. I have notes. Can clapping. Okay. Like, the festival. Did you see, like, the festival? They have their, like, 19 minutes for this movie. 14 minutes. Oh, okay.
what to do with my hands while someone sings happy birthday for 30 seconds what are you supposed to do during a 12 minute clap-a-thon it's like paul mezcal stood as he got a six minute standing ovation six minutes get your steps in while you're at it i mean six minutes i won't even give a blow job for six minutes literally six minutes i can't even run on the treadmill for six minutes
No, I'm not doing anything for six minutes. I feel like I don't know who started it, but they can't get out of it. I'll tell you one thing. What if you're like one of the organizers that's like, how does it end?
Such a good question like it's basically like people don't want that's honestly no thank you No, it's like how does it end because here's the thing if you're getting a time slot that Saturday morning people are up They're peppy. They're cheery. Yeah, you're getting you're getting the last time they're tired So you might only get a four minute also do they hire clappers? We need a good press. What if the movie sucks? They just get four minutes. Oh
Yeah. Great observation. Thank you. Also, the AMAs are happening right now. What are those again? American Music Awards. I've honestly lost track. Award shows, I have like...
I lose track. But the music people do. They are more experimental with their fashion, which I like. Is it in New York? No, I think it's in L.A. Oh, okay. Because I see the L.A. Oh, I have a story. Okay. I was in a random place. And there were people there. Oh, no. First problem. So I left. I was like, why didn't no one tell me this? So this girl comes up to me.
And she's like, oh my God, you know JoJo. Now, this was first of all the morning. Second of all. My assistant. Okay. No, I'm trying to be smooth. Yeah. And I'm in conversation and I'm warm and I'm like, yes, yes, yes. When she says JoJo, I think the singer. I want Siwa.
It could have been Jojo Siwa. But I know like Jojo, the singer. Do I know her? No. Have we DM'd? Yes. Am I obsessed with her? Yes. Jojo's everything. So I go, yeah, I know Jojo. Cause this is just out of nowhere. Like, and this was like, it was actually at like a woman's health thing. So she was like industry. Okay. So I was like, yeah, I know Jojo. Yeah. She comments on my photo once.
and she was like no like she i think she got into my photo before and i'm like yes she was at the book festival like we almost saw her at the book festival jojo oh my god yes so i love her and i was like yes jojo yes and she's like no like don't you love her and i'm like i love her she's like the voice of our generation honestly iconic and she's like yeah and then we keep talking and she's like
Yeah, it's so crazy you know JoJo. And I'm like, no. And she goes, and like, I don't even know how she got the job with Paige. So I'm sitting there going, I just told this girl I think JoJo is the voice of our generation. And she smiled and said, yeah. No, I'm dead. So then I go, oh, Josephine. And she goes, that's so funny you guys call her Josephine. I'm like, well, Paige is like fancy like that. Like she likes Josephine better probably. Okay. Talk about millennial Gen Z gap.
My assistant's name is Josephine. In my phone, she's Jojo because it's like her. She put that in. I think so. Yeah. All of her friends call her Jojo. I just like, when I first met her, because I met her years ago, I met her as Josephine. And she never said like, you can call me Jojo. But then like now that she works for me again, I think she might have said like, everyone calls me Jojo. It's giving? You refuse to call her what she wants to be called?
You're Josephine. Do you want to know what? I think her name is so beautiful. I'm like, but your name is so beautiful. And I never hear it. Like I never hear someone named Josephine. I feel like she'd be cute as Joey too.
She's adorable. The girl, the woman, she's a woman. The woman takes ballet classes on Wednesday nights. Like she's just, she's so aesthetic. She's so cool. Like she keeps me, I'm like, does Gen Z thinks this is cool? And she keeps me like up to date. But I literally to this girl's face was like, Jojo's the voice of our generation. And she was like, yeah, we can do. And I didn't even like, I pretended the whole time I knew which Jojo she was talking about.
So anyway, shout out to Josephine. Didn't know you go by other aliases and they got me.
No, she's so cute. Honestly, all we do over here is like play dress up and pretend like we had to go to a real meeting one day. And I was like, Josephine, like, come with me. And she showed up and I go, this is literally the devil wears Prada. We wear sweats all day. Like Josephine comes over in her literal pajamas. And I was like, we're cosplaying. She showed up in like the cutest outfit. And that's all I really want for my assistant. No, she's killing it. Shout out Jojo. I just want you to show up and look adorable. Yeah.
Hot take. Some pop culture question for you. Did you see Jessica Biel's interview about Justin Timberlake? No. No. But proceed because I think I might say something after. She basically was like, I love him so much. He's like my best friend. He's like my chosen sister. Okay. Okay. Not how I ever want to think of my man. Okay.
It's weird, right? I'm going to say something. It's giving Lavender marriage? I think so. Because if you go back to Seventh Heaven, if you take it all the way back, there were strong lesbian vibes. Oh, see, I was calling Justin Timberlake gay. No, I think it might be her.
I think it might be her because I think this man has gotten caught maybe one or two times. Too many times. Too many times. Either embarrassing her with another woman or just like embarrassing her in general. Yeah. That I can't. I can't think that. If I was Justin Timberlake and she called me. Her sister. Her chosen sister. I'd be like, yo, we need a rebrand. Yeah. Yeah.
Chosen sister, at least not brother. No, not no. Just say you're not fucking...
Well, that's what it is. Like, it's also like how many people are just in relationships because they're such public figures that they're like, I don't want to blow up my life right now and like have to deal with this like massive divorce or all these like press. Like, let's just chill and you do your own thing and I'll do my own thing. And you understand each other. Yeah. Like the amount of people that are probably in open relationships or separated and we just like don't know.
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I know I'm coming for people right now, but I don't care. As a man, if you're going through your phone to put together an aesthetic photo dump and you're like, oh, I just have a photo of my face there, so I need a photo of like food here. I don't want my future man to know that you can favorite photos. I don't want my future man to know that you can have a carousel on Instagram.
Des listening to this. Wait, have you seen the trend on TikTok where it's like, this is my current boyfriend? Yes. I love that. The funniest trend is happening right now. Have you seen men calling their guy friends to say goodnight? Okay. Do you want to know what? This is a learning experience. This is bigger than a trend that people are not picking up on. No, this is deep psychology. If you called any one of your girlfriends and said, hey, I just wanted to call you and like,
say goodnight and like I love you and I miss you every single one would be like oh I love you and how are you and like what's going on connect and like all of this the men immediately start laughing or they get like angry yeah like what are you talking about don't ever call what are you doing well this is the thing it is funny because it's so random and the guys being like just want to call say goodnight yeah and I'm like that's weird but then the reaction is so over the top that I'm like no that's weirder because guys will be like
Good night. What the fuck does that mean? Good night. Yeah, bro. I'm going to bed. I want to say good night. And he's like, they can't even connect with their own gender. How can we trust them on anything?
They can't like honestly, I saw a Jane Fonda video like years ago and I think about it all the time where she literally said like women sit and they face each other and they talk to each other and men are they sit next to each other. They never like really look at each other and like ask them how they're doing. That's why I take my man every every couple hours. I take his head and
And I make him hold eye contact with me. I said, we're holding, we're holding, we're holding. It's important. It's important. It's important. They have to understand humanity. And look. No, they really do. Have you ever like dated a guy? Yes. I don't recommend it. I'm super against it.
But have you ever dated a guy and like you start obviously having sex with them and then after a couple of months it gets more like emotional or like you fall more in love with them or whatever. And then you start having sex and you're making eye contact like whilst you have sex and like it used to be like he'd whisper something dirty in your ear. But now he's looking at you and he's saying it like that. It's like men. That's the only time men do that.
Like how many times have we looked at each other and said like the most deep in our soul like things that we feel? Mainly me. No. With me and you, like literally the first thing I say to you on the phone will be like the most unhinged thing because that's called intimacy. So it's like where are they letting that out? I'm worried for them. But also this – have you seen this whole thing with like the lonely – like the men are lonely and it's like – Yeah.
you know, like what it's our society and blah, blah, blah. And it's just like our society. We live in a patriarchy. Yeah. You guys did that to yourself. You guys set this up and now we're just getting more. Yeah. Like we're not helping you. Wait, do you ever feel like when people ask like about me or when I'm with people, they ask about you. We feel like we're in a band. Yeah. Like I'm like, I try to explain it. I'm like, we're in a band. Yeah. And like, yeah, sometimes I do some solo stuff, but we really come back to Giggly Squad. Like,
Like sometimes I forget that we performed at Radio City and I'll hear someone say like she performed at Radio City and I'll literally be like, who? I forget like I perform. But I don't think when I'm with the gigglers, I'm like, I don't think of it as a performance, even though it is. I think of it as like, are my beta bloggers going to work? Yes or no. This is more of a science experiment for all of us.
Final thing about men. We're not going to talk about it for the rest of the time. We didn't talk about the Justin Vogue cover. I know we didn't. Because Haley's a dear, dear, dear, dear, dear friend of mine. A dear, dear friend. Who can actually do no wrong. A friend of the pod. A friend of the pod and a close friend to my life. Godmother to my future children. No, Haley's the shit. I think that Justin's a little too loosey-goosey online right now.
I think that he... Is going through something. I think that he said it thinking like, oh, this is going to sound good because I'm like correcting. I've been proven wrong. I'm correcting myself. Yeah.
I think people are really like come down on her every time. Like, oh my God, why don't you just leave? Like, how could you like your husband doesn't love you and blah, blah, blah. That's not it. Where it's just like things get like so nitpicked about Haley in general, everything about her. I really like I don't know how she does it sometimes. But like if I had a nickel, that's why I have a career.
If every guy that said you wouldn't make it. Yeah. If I had a fucking nickel. So why women are acting and so mad at her like they haven't experienced that at least five times them their damn selves. Like how about relate to her and be like I feel bad for her instead of being like you're stupid. Fucker people mean to hurt. It's I don't get it. But I have a question.
Because I actually, I've never been in a serious relationship with a guy who didn't like believe in me. Really? Did you just, do you tell them what your dream is? And then when you least expect it, they turn it on you? Yes. And come for you? Yes. It's not like in the moment where you're like, oh yeah, you want to accomplish this? And they're like, no you won't. You stupid bitch. In a heated fight, they're like, and you want to do this? In a heated fight.
I once had a boyfriend who was cheating on me with a girl who now I can't even remember what her job was. But she did like hosting, like random hosting of things, like whatever. She was a couple of years older than me and he would cheat on me with her. And I remember like finding out about it. And I remember feeling really insecure because I was like, oh my God, she's like so much more accomplished than I am. And yet why wouldn't he want her over me and blah, blah, blah.
And I remember him saying like, you'll never be, you'll never accomplish what she's accomplished. Now I'm like, I don't even remember what her job was. But I think about it all the time. Then that's just like so toxic. Yeah. And it comes down to like my thing with relationships is like we literally are a team. And like if you're on my team, we're fucking winning together. My problem was I would date guys that I was like,
I want more from you. Like I want you to be as motivated as me kind of thing. And that's hard to find as well. And I think it's actually getting even harder to find because like girls are right up there with men in like the workforce. And so it's hard to find. And I'm fine if like,
I just want them to, like, have a dream that they're chasing. Like, I've dated guys who are successful, but they, like, don't want to be there. They have no passion. They have no passion. Like... Yeah. Talk to me when you have a business that you... Passionate about. And then you'll know what it takes to run a business. No, you want to be with someone that, like, genuinely is, like, striving for more and, like, wants to accomplish more. Well, because...
You get exhausted like chasing your own dreams. Like it is actually so fun to root for someone else's dreams sometimes. Totally. Like to see like Des' like clip like blow up. I'm literally like... It is a feeling...
that's like you're so proud and he's also like that's part of you so you just feel like and you don't have to do anything and you're just like I'm proud of you no Hannah you know how like the best feeling ever is like when your boyfriend wakes up in the morning or your husband or whatever and they have to leave the bed and go do something and you don't have to that's like my favorite thing in the world I'm like oh go be a man like yeah bring home a fucking cow for us like you know like I don't know
I can't imagine the feeling it must feel for you when you go. Well, you're not really allowed to go see Des do stand up. But when he has to go do stand up and you don't. Well, that happens a lot when I come back from touring. And during the week, he's at the Comedy Cellar and he's like getting dressed at 10 p.m. And I'm in my like snuggliest snuggle moment ever.
And I'm like, go make $20. Yeah. Wait, Daphne just sniffed my foot and then went like this. She gagged. She gagged. It's like, okay, literally chill out. I was wearing ballet flats. Oh my God. Your ballet flats have been through shit. Oh my gosh. Um, okay. What else? One more thing about my mental health. Yeah. Tell me if you think this is good or bad. Tell me if I'm wrong.
And tell me if I'm crazy or not. Tell me if I'm crazy. Wait, all girls. That is. Tell me. One to ten. I'm going to run something by you and you tell me what you think. From emergency to call the police. Where are we at?
I do say Des has been watching the Mets a lot, which like go Mets. But like the games are like five hours and I was like, I need to get a hobby. Wait, I was just going to say, I forgot baseball was even on. Oh my God. Even is. Oh, but also baseball lasts like forever. Like forever. Um, I bought on Etsy a punch needling kit. Okay. And it's not even like real crocheting or anything. You just like punch a thing and it,
That actually sounds really enjoyable. It's kind of therapeutic. Yeah. Because you're kind of stabbing something. I freaking bet. So, and he was like, okay, grandma, what are you doing fucking knitting? And I was like, first of all, I have mental health problems. God forbid a girl has a hobby. God forbid I have a hobby. And I haven't even like showed it off on Instagram because I'm practicing doing things not for other people's.
Did I bring enough of the pod? Yes. That's different. This is a safe space. This is a safe space. This is just me like telling you what I did today. So I've started and I'm doing a flower one. So I started punch needling. Wait, I'm obsessed. And like, what are they though? What do you punch needling? It's like into like kind of a paper and it comes out like
The whole thing. And then where do you put the paper? On your refrigerator? Well, then it becomes like a painting. Like it has a wood frame. Oh, got it. So I can decorate my apartment with it. Okay, so what are you punching over there? I'm punching...
It's actually so hard to explain. Okay. Like, punching yarn into this paper that turns... I know, but what's the thing? Oh, it's a floral arrangement. Okay, got it. I thought you were going to say it was, like, something for the Mets. You do it while he watches the Mets. Yeah. Yeah, you're 105. Yeah.
Pick up cocaine. I mean, it's getting scary over there. It's getting really scary over there. We were hanging out with people during the day yesterday and they were like, what are you going to do tonight? And I was like, I'm so pumped up. I'm starting green. I'm starting the green flower. I just finished the yellow petals. It's actually funny. I was thinking like for whatever reason, I used to like be obsessed with Memorial Day weekend. Like it was my favorite weekend ever. That's so random. Yeah.
Oh my God. I didn't even know like when it was. Are you kidding? I'm so bad at like high school and college and like even like post-college, like going away somewhere for Memorial Day weekend. And this year I was just like, I can't wait to do nothing and just chill. And this was like the first weekend I feel like I didn't get drunk.
I woke up this morning sending aggressive emails to people and then being told it's a holiday. Yeah. And I was like, oh my God, sorry. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry about that. Have you seen the AI baby clips going around? I love them.
They're so funny. They're so cute. They're so funny. They're so cute. Talking babies. Like I love, like I like when real babies like say swear words. Yes. But have you seen the ones of us? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No, I love them. Yeah. And they're wearing our outfits. I know. I don't know if they look exactly like us. Like I actually. I do have to say. We were. They were that cute. Yeah.
I was a cute baby. And I'm not body shaming. I'm not body. I'm not baby shaming. No, we're not baby shaming. We're not baby shaming. But like I was, I was cuter. A hundred percent. Oh my God. Wait, I have this written down because I saw a TikTok and one last thing about men. Yeah.
And my mom used to give me this advice too. Well, she actually used to give me this advice when she would talk about like having children and she would say like, if you have low expectations for your children, that's what you'll get. And if you have high expectations for your children, that's what you'll get, which honestly now sounds extremely manipulative. But anyways, I digress. But there was this TikTok and it was this girl and she was saying like, when you start dating a guy, like,
It's more kind of like a formula. Like if you are one of those girls where you're like, all I want is a boyfriend and I'm like really going to try and get this guy to like be my boyfriend. And you do all of this stuff in the beginning, like you're cooking him dinner, you're doing his laundry, like you're doing all of this stuff. Like men and women are so different. That is not going to make a man want to like reciprocate all of that for you. That just makes them lazier. Yeah.
And now you that's the standard. And now that's the standard. You're being weird. You have set that standard. So it's almost like when you first start dating someone, you do nothing, but only as the woman. Wait, that's that's what I've been doing accidentally just because I like I have ADHD and I can't do laundry. But it's the truth is, is if a guy is going to be with you because you're doing his laundry, like that's not the win you want it to be. No.
No. That's not the W you want. And so go out there, ladies, and stay lazy. Don't do shit. Don't do shit. I would argue sometimes, though, little cute things that like I want Des to do. If I do it for him, it like subconsciously trains him. Like an example. An example. This is like little things. And by the way, I never cook. But like.
last summer i started to get like tomatoes this is making me sound like someone i'm not like i don't this is like i did this okay you're crocheting you have a garden now i didn't know about when did you get a garden tomatoes once from the the market
The farmer's market And I cut him up Because I'm Italian And I got basil And I got some mozzarella And I put some balsamic And some olive oil And I was like I'm Martha Stewart And he ate it And it was like cute And then today He got tomatoes And he was It was like I was hungry for dinner But we were waiting for it to come Because we were Uber eating Obviously
And he was like, let me make some tomatoes for us. And he cut it up. And he was like, sorry, I don't have mozzarella. And I was like, oh my God, he learned. So he fucked up. Yeah, he failed. He failed. So he did it, but not as good as you. So we're divorcing. That's the story. And I go, where the fuck's the mozzarella? And I flipped it. But sometimes it's like little, it's more love language stuff. Not like, you don't work for him. No. You're not his fucking employer.
no well and like all i see is like oh my god when you get married like men don't share the same mental load so it's like okay if you don't share the same mental load then we have to share like the physical load of like i'm not for hire like someone told me when a guy comes over you should have cookies baking in the oven because he'll associate like you with that smell and i'm like if that's what we have you got that from the movie clueless
I guess they got it. If that's what you have to do to trick a guy to want to be with you, I don't think he's the one. I have a vagina. I have a fine. You guys, you have a vagina. Also, it is giving job interview where like when you're giving a job interview and you don't need that job, they can smell it on you. Yeah. Literally go into every date where it's like, I do not want to be with you. And I, I might choose to, but I don't know.
And that's the vibe. That's the vibe. You don't work for him. He's interviewing you and you're the boss. Yeah, he works for you. No, he literally works for you. That's the mentality. He's your assistant. He's your assistant. Final question. What do you feel about neck scarves? Throwing a neck scarf on. You know, I don't hate it. Is it like too waspy?
Like to giving like New Hampshire. I think it has to be the correct outfit. I actually think you have to do it with like not that preppy of an outfit. True.
true that's wow that was really good i think it has to be something like you know how people say like put an outfit on and then a pair of shoes that don't go and like that makes it funky it's kind of like put it with an outfit that like it doesn't really like jeans and a t-shirt but i'll wear ties all the time but i feel like a scarf people be like she's trying too hard like a scarf is like trying to be fashionable i don't know i feel like you could you could so do one in the hamptons and try it out
I feel like maybe when I'm older and wiser. Okay. Because there'll be like a story behind it. Okay. There'll be some lore. Yeah. I mean, I'll make up a story. Okay. You guys, thank you for giggling with us.
And check out our new episode of Hannah and Paige Try New Things. We went thrift shopping. If you haven't caught up, we've already played baseball. We've gone to Salem. We've done witchcraft. Witchcraft and wizardry. And wizardry. And we did cat therapy. And we have merch up from the tour.
that we weren't selling online and now we're selling and we have some really classic giggly shirts that we added too so shout out to that and yeah thanks for giggling with us
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