Giggling about how Paige has a BF, Lala dumped her man, and the Kravis Kontrovercy
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They just got away from me. What's up, my gigolo gigolos? Wow, that was an insane. Pidge, from not hungover to you can hear light. How hungover are you?

I can hear light. Like, I'm in a dark room right now. Like, I can't. You are in a dark room. You look like you're kidnapped and trying to send me a message, but you're too tired. Yeah, like, literally my kidnapper is, like, somewhere in the dark back there. And I'm like, I'm doing it. Stop. You know how, like, we're competitive? Yeah. And, like, things that, like, we shouldn't be competitive about. Yeah.

Yeah, like the game BS. If I lost that game, I would leave. I'd go home. I'd be like, mom, pick me up. Yeah, like I don't know why I think I can drink the amount of alcohol that like boys can drink. And look, I think girls are very equal to boys and I'm all about being a feminist. But there are some times where they're just better. They're better at things and consuming alcohol is one of them. I'm going to be honest, taking out the trash. Men are better at it.

I tried to be a feminist. I couldn't do it. If something's heavy or I can't open a jar, I need men. Men are superior in things like that. In like 2% of things, they are superior. We'll give them that. Also, when you were growing up, did your dad ever make the joke like, I'm not afraid you're going to get kidnapped because the kidnapper would pay me to take you back?

No. My dad would like cry. He's like, if something happened to you, I would die. I couldn't go to Mexico on spring break because my dad said, if something happened to you, I would kill myself. And I was like, oh my God, that's so harsh. The guilt trip you just laid on me. I feel like both of our dads are traumatizing just different ways.

Never been to Mexico. Traumatized by it. I can't even book a flight to Tulum. I'm like, what if something happened? My dad would kill himself. He's like, you're too adorable to go to Mexico. And my dad's like, sure, go. I'll make some money off of you. Talkative bitch. Literally. My dad's like, someone will see you and immediately want you. I'm like, really? Oh, my God. My dad's like, please, someone kidnap her. Oh, before we get started, I feel like we owe the Gigglers a little life update.

Okay, I didn't want the gigglers to think I was withholding information and people were finding out and I wasn't actively telling the gigglers that I had a boyfriend. But one, it's a very new relationship and I'm not a psycho crazy girlfriend. I'm not posting my boyfriend immediately. And come on, you guys know I love an Instagram aesthetic. So I just want to put his hand on an Instagram story and no one know who it was.

And it was like fun and girl. Everyone knew who it was. Yeah. Everyone was like, I love how you're breadcrumbing yourself. Yeah. It gave me excitement. I got so many DMS from girls being like, cool, we got it. You date Craig. Like, cool. You have a boyfriend. You had a plan in your head.

And it didn't work out as mysteriously as you wanted it, but it's okay because I'm totally into it. And I kind of... There's almost a nice... Enjoy these moments when you're not on blast, like, where people are, like, posting your photo everywhere and then everyone's, like, placing bets on how long it can last and then, like, talking shit about how old he is. Oh, wait, that's mine. But anyway...

No, so many people were like, it's a PR stunt. And, like, she just, like, has no storyline. And she doesn't really know how to do reality TV. So, like, she needed to, like, date Craig. And I was like, in my head, I was like, I love that people are thinking that because nobody's, like, checking my social media to see if I'm posting him. But I do have a real-life boyfriend who, like, does actually like me and not because we're on a television show together. But...

I'm so happy for you. I can't wait to do podcast episodes about like things that come up in a relationship. Right? Like this is... We're two taken gigglers. Yeah. And now because we're taken, it sounds like our advice is more legit. Like we know what we're talking about even though we don't. But can I point something out? Yes. I've been single for a full year and I've... I have...

literally met the king of all king of fuckboys like i have dated some of the worst people in america same why is it immediately when you get a boyfriend the men can sniff it out and everyone is messaging you and texting you and dming you it's the craziest thing i'm like hello it's like blood in the water you've been bit yeah like they could smell it men can smell it when you're happy

Or they can just tell when you really don't care anymore. And that's like hot to them. To the toxic ones. Guys who really love you want you to care. Yeah. Every ex I've ever had has texted me within these past two weeks. And I'm like, get out of here.

I love that for you, though. It sounds really empowering. I was like, I have a boyfriend. Stop. What do you do when they message you? Do you leave them on read? Do you politely say, like, thanks, but no thanks? Like, what's your move? Some of them I just left on read. I was, like, absolutely out of my face. Yeah.

um and then other ones I was like so giddy and excited to be like I have a boyfriend now um how are you and they're like I'm so happy for you but yeah these conversations are very important because like if you really respect your relationship this is not your time to set boundaries like I know you used to text me every three weeks when you were lonely but like not anymore you know yeah

I love texting people and being like, I have a boyfriend. Bye. You cleansed your roster. You found your star player. Guys, I know. Oh my God, I love not having a roster. So much less stressful. But let me tell you something. Having a boyfriend is also stressful. Oh my God, they're exhausting. You have to take them on walks. Make sure they have enough to eat. Yeah, you have to respond when they talk. All the time. Every time they talk, you have to respond. It's like a lot.

The amount of times that Craig's like, you're not listening. And I'm like, that's correct. I literally have a whole stand-up joke about when I talk to you, how you're scrolling your phone. Yeah.

He's like, you're not even listening to my story. And I'm like, right. And? I mean, you're going to get to the point where you will tell a story and he'll be like, you've told that three times. And I'm like, yeah, we ran out. Yeah. It ends. Because everything else we experienced together. So I have no new shit. Right. No new material. No.

Wait, that's the other thing? And Des calls me out. I'm like, just laugh. I forgot how much I fucking love gossiping with a boyfriend. But Craig and I are always together. So when we find things out or we have gossip, we just talk about it with each other. So when something happens, now I'll be like, we can't wait to tell this person. Or like, wait, I heard gossip. I love when I have gossip to tell Craig.

I love when you can find a guy who gossips with you because that means they're your best friend. I know there's a stereotype like, oh, guys don't care about like your girlfriend. No, no, no, no. I want my guy to call me up and be like, how's it going with Amber? Has she still fighting with Kenzie? It's Kenzie Matt. It's Sarah. I need the goods. Like it's like our life is a sitcom and they need to know what's happening because if they don't care, then what are we talking about?

Right. Like Craig like sits down and I'm like, I have some shit to tell you. He's like, wow, can't wait. But this reminds me, I wanted to tell you about something I watched on TikTok, which means it's informative and legit. Right. There was a study on why relationships last. And this guy, scientist, I don't know how many people were in the study, but when couples did this, 90% of couples stay together long term.

And if they didn't, only 30% of couples stay together. Oh my God, I can't wait. What is that? And it's actually quite simple. It's literally when someone said, look at that bird. It's really pretty. The couples where the other person acknowledged it and said something lasted 90%. And the ones who literally just like didn't acknowledge it didn't last. And I honestly believe that so hard.

I 1000% believe that like it's the simple act of like caring about what your person is saying, even if you in the tiniest tiny. Yeah, even just making the effort to just make them feel heard with the littlest things because obviously when you're like, hey, we have to have a talk. They'll respond to you, but it's about two people just vibing and I don't care how hot he is, how good the sex is, how much your mom likes him.

Like if he doesn't think your little stuff is worth listening to, you're going to feel empty.

I think that is like a really big thing. And also like just complimenting each other. Like, like I love telling Craig that I think he is the hottest guy I've ever seen in my life. And like the hottest guy I've ever dated. And like, I feel like when you say that to men, like they need compliments just as much as we do. Like the more I compliment Craig, the more he also compliments me. And like, we will, we're also narcissists.

While you're teaching each other your love language, he'll see that it feels good and then he'll want you to feel good.

wait we also we do have kind of similar dynamics where like we both don't mind the limelight but we also are proud of each other do you know what i mean yeah like i get jacked up when craig like like okay perfect example is craig is an embellisher okay he will tell stories he will tell stories to like a group of people that i was present for the story okay and

And he will say things that are a complete lie and like embellishment, like to make the story better. And I'll just look at him like across the room. Like, you know, that didn't happen. I'm not calling him out, but like, then I punched a shark in the face.

And I'm like, babe, that didn't happen that way. He's like, I sewed a whole freaking sweater set. But, like, I just love listening to him tell stories. And I like people. Like, I like when people laugh at, like, the stories he tells. So, like, am I going to call my man out and be like, that didn't happen? Sometimes I do. But, like. If it's funny. The other day, Craig was here. And we.

He's been like flying a lot. And so he like he just like his body hurt and he was like, let's get massages. So he like went on an app. We got massage like couples massage in my apartment. So it was so sweet and like so cute. And like they come with like a portable massage table like and we do it. We were doing it at the same time.

So the girl that was doing him, like, just kept talking. Like, chatty, chatty Kathy. And I could tell that Craig wanted to be like, hey, shut the fuck up. But, like...

No one said anything, but like I can feel even though I can't see him, like I can feel what he's thinking. Craig had like a huge bruise on the back of his leg. And the the massage girl says, oh, my God, how did you get that? And Craig goes, oh, a soccer game. And I immediately burst out laughing because I'm like, what world were you in a soccer game?

He didn't stop there, though. She goes, oh, my God. Like, do you play, like, in a pickup league? Craig goes, yup. Yep.

And I am on my chair apologizing to my masseuse because I'm, like, sorry for laughing, but my boyfriend is blatantly lying to this lady just because he wants her to shut the fuck up. But, like, I know why he's doing it. So then when they leave, like, and it's over, I was like, were you playing in a soccer game? And he was like, no, but she, like, wouldn't stop talking. And, like, I'm not explaining to this lady how I got a bruise. And it was just...

but you know you're starting to know like what he's thinking and how he reacts to situations it's funny because when i get massages with des in chinatown this motherfucker knows mandarin so he won't shut up with the person next to me because he's practicing his mandarin and she's giggling and she's loving it and i'm alone left out yeah pretty sure he's talking shit about me and at the end she

And she's just laughing and she laughs at me and we leave and I'm like, I'm glad you had fun. I'm glad you made a new friend. Yeah. Like no, her and I are just friends. Don't worry about her. That's my sister. But it's funny because whenever you go to Chinatown and you get your nails done, the joke is that these women are talking shit about you. And I'm like, tell me if they're talking shit about me. Like, I know, I know I have like hairy feet. Like what do they talk about? And he goes, they literally never talk about anyone. They just like want to know when their lunch break is. Yeah. Like they don't give a shit.

Okay, now that we're out of the closet in so many ways, we have so many good things to talk about. First of all, Kravis got engaged yesterday. Yeah. Where were you when the news broke? Like, what was... No, it's literally like, where were you when you heard? Like, I will never forget where I was. I have so many thoughts and conspiracy theories on this. Mm-hmm.

But you texted me about it. So what was your initial thought? I have a full conspiracy theory with a K.

Do you know the story About two days ago About Kourtney going berserk On an airplane Yeah I saw it on page six But no one else like picked it up No one like said anything about it No it fully got picked up Cosmo, The Sun, everyone picked it up And it was very like that she was bratty That she had a freak out The Kardashians responded and were like this is so not true But apparently he lost his phone

In between the seat in business class when they were flying from New York. Also, people were starting to give her bad press because they were like, why would she not post about Kim when she was on SNL when everyone else did? And then she only posted about Travis when he was on SNL. So there was just like weird energy. Oh, she didn't post about Kim being on SNL. No. But then when Travis was on, she was excited. But I mean, this is all like stupid stuff.

Yeah. But then someone was like, of course she went berserk. Like it's his fifth time flying or something. And it's like apparently Travis was fine. Travis was just sitting there. Then someone's like, oh, she probably has naked pictures and shit. But I'm like, he probably has a lock on his phone. Right. Long story short, a scene was had and it was talked about. So my theory is that Kris Jenner picks up the phone and she goes, Travis, I know you're planning on proposing. We need you to do it today.

we cannot have more like negative, like energy towards this. It needs to stop the story right now. And he was like, and she goes, double the flowers, make it look like a squid game finale. Do some fucking fancy ass shit. Do it on a public beach. I don't give a fuck if you're not. Cause why would they do it on a public beach? That was so weird. I think she's just like, find area, find space. Like, you know, Courtney does not want a public place. Yeah. And they did it. Are they filming their Hulu thing? Cause it was also filmed.

Okay, so my conspiracy theory is that when they were in Vegas and everyone was writing those, like, congratulations and, like, those cryptic, like, messages, I think they got engaged in Vegas, like, by themselves with, like, their friends and family. I think this engagement is purely for the TV show. So further fucking more, someone posted that Alabama Barker has a photo with Kourtney of

sitting in front of her house in 2018. So they think that they've been in this relationship for a while, but they had to wait it because of the Scott, the Scott storyline needed to end or something. And they were going to put it on like the Hulu show. And that's why they're so hot and heavy and got engaged so fast, but that's a real far stretch. I've never been more terrified of a teenager than I am of Alabama Barker.

She'd bully my ass. If she ever came up to me and wanted my lunch money, I'd immediately give it to her. Like she could beat the shit out of me. And I would say, okay. Stab you with one of those fingernails. Then two things about Scott. People are like writing mean comments, like Scott shaking Scott's. And I know that's funny, but like as someone who understands like cyber bullying and stuff, like I feel bad for Scott, but I do not think that him and Courtney should be together.

Okay, I also agree. I feel bad for Scott because let's be honest, Scott, not that this is a, like, a pass for Scott, but Scott and Courtney were together when they were very, very young. Like, Scott was only 26 when they had Mason. That is fucking young. Like, probably first loves. Yeah, like, especially for a man. Not that that's an excuse, like, to cheat on your, like, baby mama or, like, terrorize her, but, like,

I like kind of give him a pass and look at everyone else's husband. Like Lamar was banging hookers and like Scott still gets like a worse rap. Like, but Kanye has like absolutely annihilate. Kanye came for stormy. Okay. But Scott still gets, Scott still gets a bad rap. Imagine your, imagine your favorite ex.

And imagine the whole world loving their new relationship. It must be hard. I know you're like, he's rich, he's whatever. It sucks. It sucks. No, like, that sucks. That sucks. Do I think they should be back together? I don't. I don't think. I think that, like, you break up with someone and, like, exes are.

are an ex for a reason. Yes, I think there are those rare couples that like maybe can take a few years off, grow and like come back together. But I think that is so fucking rare. And I think everyone you have ever dated, like I don't regret any of my boyfriends.

Because every single relationship I can pinpoint like a very specific thing that I learned while in that relationship that I now carry to my next one. Yes. So like I don't think that Courtney and Travis would be as good as they are if she hadn't had a whole like debacle with with.

Agreed. But by no means do I think that they should be getting back together. I also think after Scott, again, we're just throwing this out there, but I think she loves that Travis is sober. Yeah.

I think that because of the Scott experience, she knows, like, maybe she really wants to be with someone who's clean just to avoid, like, getting scared that he might cheat or that kind of stuff. I need, like, a light. Hold on a second. I screenshotted you because you actually look like a ghost who's going to haunt me for the rest of my life. Further fucking more, though. For how over the top I am and, like, bougie and, like, love explosive things. Mm-hmm.

I genuinely, to my core, do not want a public engagement. I do not want a hidden photographer somewhere. I do not want a thousand rose petals. I do not want some place to be shut down for our engagement. I want to be in bed. I want to roll over, him be holding a ring, and just be like,

Let's do this. Like I want it to be so like the public engagements actually freak me out. I know. I love how you got engaged. I think that is so much more romantic. Yeah.

we both love being in bed so like our guys know that but I also after you get engaged you're a fucking mess like I was like like the whole world kind of goes blurry I feel like you black out you black out I remember crying and I love that I was in like a safe space with him where I could just FaceTime my mom I mean I'd love to be in a bed in a hotel in Paris like by the Eiffel Tower but like a bed nonetheless but a bed

I love room service after with like a thousand roses and like a French man giving me French toast. But like it's it's a thin line because you want your privacy in a relationship. But both of me and you were in the public eye where like people are going to like see you exist with. Yeah. Like there's a guy as a part of a bigger like story. Yeah. There's just things that like.

I think are so much better when it's just shared with like an immediate family or like just like the person you're in love with. Yeah. And rather than like it being shared with thousands of people who like don't even really care about you or like don't like are just here for the drama, which like same. So you're saying you wouldn't want to get engaged on Bachelor in Paradise after three weeks in front of the castmates with a ring from Neil Young?

Look, I really have no place to say anything because like reality TV, whatever. But I really don't think I could ever be on a reality TV show where there's like a prize and like you're fighting for like and it's like a game. Yeah. Also, I would never say I wouldn't get engaged on reality TV because I told myself I'd never cry on reality TV. And here we are. Oh, yeah. Like I've I've I've just solidified that I will absolutely get engaged on reality TV now. Now that I said that I don't I want to get engaged in bed.

I do think that Des is the first guy I was like with with on a reality TV show, like legitimately in a relationship with. Yeah. Now you're with Craig. And I do have to say that when castmates talk shit about me, I'm like, OK, granted. OK, fine. When they talk shit about Des. Yeah. My blood. Yeah. Boiled to another level. So differently. Yeah. Yeah.

already felt this, like take out like TV, someone saying something to my face. I most often I'm like, yeah, no, that's probably right. Like you're right. I am the worst. But like someone saying something about my boyfriend is such a different level of like burn inside of you. I'll burn the whole place down. I'll burn your house down. I'll then travel to your parents' house, burn their house down. Like it's just a different level of,

protection because you can't understand why someone would ever be mean to this person who you are so obsessed with. Like sometimes I'll get like I get some of the meanest messages I've ever read in my life and I'm just like cool cool I'll screenshot it send it to the group chat and be like lol but like when I get messages about Craig being like

Oh my god like don't date him or like anything I have gone fucking off On people to the point where I'm like Okay I gotta stop responding to crazy DMs Such jealousy I know but I'm just like do not Speak his name Just protect your baby at all costs

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I hung out with Sheena and Nima, who we love. Yes, how was that? We went to Lola Taverna and Sheena's sister, who I'd never met. Oh my God. She's younger, right? She's younger. She's so sweet. And...

She has her own personality. She's not just mini Sheena. She's very cool. I could tell she was Gen Z and too cool for me. And I was trying to act cool. But anyway, Sheena's in great mood. She has a baby. And I'm like, Sheena, are you...

I was like full podcasting. I was like, are you still going to be able to be a mom and be like fun party Sheena? And she's like, I'm going to a festival this weekend. Like, yeah, you just have to like get a babysitter. Like we're the same us. It just takes like longer to like organize the kid. Yeah. She has this huge rock.

But I was trying to get tea about Vanderpump Rules, as one does. Right. And one thing I remember was her just being like, by the way, Randall's amazing. We love Randall together. They're awesome. And he fits into the group great. And like, I'm a big stan of Randall and Lala. And then we get a notification that

That Lala... Well, okay. Notice how the press covered it. It can't... Yeah. That was Lala's word. She goes, Lala dumps the shit out of Randall. Yeah, literally. The headline... The headline was so... I don't even know if what he did... What he did, if he did it, if he didn't do it, that headline was gold. It was Lala dumps Randall. Like...

After three, like it was just so direct. Yeah. The word dumps is normally it's like they broke up, they split. No, it's like she tossed him on the curb. No, literally chucked, chucked this man out the fucking window and was like, get out. Here's the thing though. Also, um, I look, I understand that people can post whatever they want. Famous or not public eye or not.

You should be allowed to live your life in like however you want. But when I'm fighting with my man, I'll tell you one thing. The last thing I'm doing is like putting it on Instagram. Like I just –

When Perry and I broke up, I didn't address... It makes me nervous to address big situations on Instagram. And come on, everybody knew when she posted that picture of her putting a crown on and the Beyonce song playing in the background while she's checking into a hotel. Everyone knows. But here's what makes me nervous too. Now, if she does get back with him...

Like people are gonna have so much more to say like whereas like if she just kept it in for a little bit and like figured it out and then maybe they get back together like she wouldn't have to explain herself. She's having an impulsive moment. Now me on social media when I was going through it a lot of accusations and lies are being said about me and it's

I wanted to just post shit. I wanted to just respond. But like, I never did. And I'm glad I never did because it just feeds the energy of it. And at the time you feel like being the high horse doesn't feel good. Yes. No, I mean, it is. Okay. The other night, the other night I like could not sleep. And like, I sometimes will like look. No, no. Listen, I will look at like my Google alerts, like whenever it like mentions my name, whatever.

So I had gotten, like, a Google alert that Craig was, like, talking about me in some article, whatever. It's, like, 4 a.m. I can't fall asleep. I, like, am reading the article and, like, I watch the video and I was, like, yo, what the fuck is this? And I had a full rage text written out to him being, like, why would you say that in your interview? Like, this, like, looks so crazy. Like, do you even like me? Like, saying all this crazy shit. And then I looked at the date of the article and...

And it was, like, a year ago. Like, they used a video from, like, a year ago that, like, in a recent article. And I was like, oh, my God. Thank God I, like, took a moment, deleted the text, and was like, that's crazy, Paige. Don't say that. Like, why don't you just take a fucking breath? And then, like, I saw the date, and I was like, oh, my God. If I sent that text message, she'd be like, you're insane. I do think in the media it's a lot of, like, tell him like it is. Like, burn his house down. Like, don't fuck with me. But...

It's actually a lot better to just ignore shit unless it really needs to be spoken to. Or if you get pushed to that level, if you get pushed to the breaking point, then what the fuck is going to break? Then we can't hold it down. And I am not responsible for what comes out of my mouth. Okay, my next question is...

Do you do we believe it? Do we think that they broke that she broke up with him because she saw on Instagram him in Nashville walking into a hotel with two girls? Like, what do you think the story is? For all we know, like she knows more information, hopefully, than we do. But well, I think it's also it's not even the fact that.

Look, if there were pictures on the internet of Craig walking into a hotel with two girls, my initial reaction, yeah, I'm fucking pissed. Because the optics of it... Yeah, the optics of it... Why is it always two girls? It's always two. It's never one.

Like, why do you have to go so hard? Because it's two best friends being like, don't leave me because this might be weird. Like, don't leave me. Did you see the TikTok with all the girls being like, how do guys not understand that there's a difference between these two looks that you shoot your friend? Like, if you look over at your friend. I saw that. I literally saw that. I love that. You give the look where you're like, I'm good. He's hot. I'm into this. Versus if...

you don't fucking leave me or I'll kill you. Yeah. So like, I understand even Lala not knowing the full story and just seeing those pictures, like you're pissed because it's, you know, like illegitimizing your relationship. But I think before she made any moves and she might've done this, we have no idea, like gotten the full story from him because maybe it really was nothing. Like maybe, um,

It was just like an annoying thing that someone caught a picture and it was like taken out of context, whatever. Or maybe he called her and was like, you're going to see a video. I'm sorry. I cheated. I was drunk. He could have done that too. But then like what's up with him posting the kids with her book? What did you say? While she's like posting the Beyonce song of her in a hotel, he's posting his kids like promoting her book.

Yeah. This is crazy. And this is so typical reality TV where like the drama that's happening now is probably way more interesting than what's going to be airing. Yeah. But it'll be interesting. And also I love Lala. I've actually always loved Lala. I interviewed Lala when I worked at a media company back in the day and she was so cool. She was with her mom. They had a really cute relationship. Like I feel like she would like initially meeting her. I feel like she...

Is really nice until you, like, piss her off. Like, then, like, she would, like, whatever. But I think initially meeting her, like, she would be nice. Do you remember how she was, like, something about a married man or something? I don't know. Well, I mean, look, not even...

Not even like Lala and Randall. If you start dating someone and you are the other girl and then he starts dating you, you will also break up that way. Like at some point then you will be the main girl and he will have a side chick. Like I just feel like if you start dating someone out of cheating, like he's going to then cheat on you. Yeah, I think it's a pattern. I'm also trying to have more empathy for relationships if someone –

has some infidelity or something I think what ends relationships is not necessarily the infidelity but like all the stuff that comes with it and like maybe if you're with a Hollywood producer who like loves to party and occasionally likes to fuck young models and you're cool with it like the JLo Alex Rodriguez type of thing

I just would never be cool with that. I'm trying to be more understanding. I'm not going to lie. When I read it, at first I was like, no, no, no. I'm so sad for this because they have a child. But then I kind of was like, fuck yeah, Lala. Like, kick his ass out. Also, like, the girls looked really young. Like, they looked like they were in college. I didn't even see the video, but like, also part of you. The one girl from behind kind of looked like me. And I was like, oh my God. You're like, is that me? Did I fuck Rachel? I was like, I was like.

think I have those leather pants and like I literally wore my hair in a ponytail the other day was that me I was really drunk this weekend yeah I was like wait was I in Nashville no I wasn't no I wasn't anyway I hope yeah I know I hope

If he did cheat on her, I hope that, like, she's not so sad and knows that, like, it has nothing to do with her and, like, she does not deserve that. And I think that if they are just in a fight and maybe he didn't cheat, like, I hope they work it out. But, like... Yeah.

Either way, they're in a sucky situation right now. That just sucks. I mean, if anything, if you're going to fail, fail fast. Get out of it now before he cheats when you have a four-year-old, a five-year-old, a seven-year-old, a 13-year-old. I don't know. Aren't kids much more fucked up when parents get divorced at 13? I don't know. I'm throwing random stats out there. Right. And they're just engaged. They can move on. She can find someone. Paige, this is the big issue. They have a podcast together.

That's like a good podcast. Like it's quite popular. That's your reaction to the podcast. It's a baby. A podcast is a baby.

Because my initial thought is who gets the podcast? Who gets to go on the podcast and explain what's going on? For sure, Lala. I mean, Lala literally is writing the press articles herself. She goes, Lala dumps cheating asshole boyfriend. That's Lala's vernacular. Let's be honest.

Randall might be like a successful producer, maybe has some money. Like, but we didn't know who the fuck he was, nor did we care who he was before Lala. Like, so now that Lala's done with him. Also, if Lala's sober, I don't want her husband going on these benders. Yeah. I mean, it's so easy to judge from outside the house, but, um,

I just hope Lala's family is okay. We are big Lala fans here on the pod. Team Lala all day. But it just sucks. It sucks. It sucks. It sucks. But do you ever see a motivational quote on Instagram and it makes you angry? All the time. Like, do you ever see those quotes that make it like life so easy and you just have to do this? And it's like, it's not like that. Right. At all. You know who gets really mad about motivational quotes? Who? Dominique. Dominique.

Really? So Dominique is our spiritual healer of the pod. What does she not like about them? Because she'll post really good ones. Some are just like, that's what it is. It's toxic positivity. Yeah, that's what she says. She's like people that are like, just like suck it up and not suck it up. But like just smile and 100 positivity, like good vibes. Dominique hates that. She's like, no, that's not that's actually making you feel like you're not allowed to have.

emotions that are sad or mad or angry. Like it should just be happy all the time. She was like, and that's sets you up for failure and like thinking you're not good enough. Or I see things like when I was going through shit where it's like, if someone disrespects you, just tell them to go fuck themselves and move on. And I'm like, that's not, it's not that simple. Right. Right. Like, or there'll be like, when you're feeling down, just get up. And you're like, no, it's not like that.

Sometimes I'm tired. No, like I think one of the best things that I've realized and like this is only through therapy is when you do when something does happen to you and you're sad or depressed or mad, like it's OK to feel that. And like it's actually better to sit in that feeling.

feel it, get it out rather than like pretend that it doesn't exist. Cause then it just manifests into like other shit. Preach, preach, preach. I'm currently working on that. I have to feel my feelings instead of just working. It's hard. Cause I love working. Cause I don't think about stuff. Cause when you think about stuff, it can hurt.

But if you don't, if you don't literally cry it out, it stays within you. Also, I feel like we grew up in Italian households where the mantra is suck it up and move on. Yeah. Same. Like you're just taught to be like, don't feel sorry for yourself. Like suck it up. Yeah. So like if something bad happens or you're sad, it's kind of like people have it way worse than you. You should be thankful that like this is your problem. Yeah. But you're like,

But I cry every day. That's also very like our parents generation of like, you're lucky that like we have good jobs and you're, you know, my fucking grandma came on a boat from Sicily. Like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're like, OK, well, you had to bring grandma into this. I can't say anything.

Once you bring Graham in, I can't win. Yeah. We got notes from the gigglers. Apparently Sam and girl Emily is 29. 29. Very upset. Got too many messages. Yeah.

People were highly offended And very angry with me Very angry For some reason I thought she was like 24 Well she looks so young She's great skin Incredible skin Apparently all you have to do is eat vegetables To have skin like that but I still won't do it I literally just had Burger King I had Wendy's last night And let me tell you It was a toss up between Chick-fil-A and Burger King Why did you decide Burger King?

Sometimes, not all the time, but sometimes when I eat Chick-fil-A, I get really nauseous after. And I just couldn't risk it today. I got Wendy's and I got Wendy's because I got chicken nugs, a cheeseburger, and then to be healthy, a baked potato. Right. Because I'm balanced. And that's a vegetable. Yes. I'm the epitome of health.

I get a lot of hate and criticism that my favorite fast food is Burger King. I don't think you should get that kind of hate because... I'm not afraid to be me. And if you don't order an original chicken sandwich from Burger King, then I'm sorry that you don't have a sophisticated palate. That's not my problem. That sounds like a personal problem. Aren't those like rectangle? Like they're kind of huge, right? They're oblong and they're amazing. They're a massive oblong.

Is that French? I don't know. I think that's the word. Wait, I'm Googling it. I think I used it correctly. No, but you're right. That chicken sandwich is like another level. And I think you get more bang for your buck. You really do. Like I'm full after that. Like sometimes I'll eat a oblong, an object or flat figure in an elongated rectangle or oval shape. How did? Okay. I don't know.

should you sign up for jeopardy right now what the fuck's going on oh my bill nye i also feel like you're at the point of your hangover right now where suddenly you just got a burst of energy and i'm yeah i did living for it i did but right when we're done with this podcast i i will die you're gonna hit a wall right before you black out um do you have any front page news before i get to dope documentaries well we did try oh wait hold on i actually do think i did have some

What did you think about Megan Edmonds getting married after four weeks? Oh, OK. So Megan Edmonds got married after only four weeks and it is the nephew of Joe Biden. And they were at the wedding. I would actually be pissed because like, OK, I'm walking down the aisle in a wedding dress. I don't need everyone staring at Joe Biden and not me. If someone is more famous than me, they're not invited to my wedding. And that's just math.

Like they're not coming. I think about that all the time when like Taylor Swift goes to her like friends weddings. I would be like if I ever have the opportunity to be friends with like a legitimate celebrity, I would have to tell them in the beginning of our friendship that they were not invited to my wedding. See, I kind of want my wedding to be poppin and I want people to like I want to cast the characters.

Yeah. Like, oh my God, you know, we should think about and talk about the next podcast because we need time to think about this. Three people, because I played this game at a dinner party the other night, three people that you would want to have dinner with

And why? And some people have some really interesting answers and like really good ones. So let's think about it. Let's also ask the gigglers who they would. Dead or alive. Either. Either. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Right. We'll get back to it. Yeah. So Megan King Edmonds, four weeks.

I do think you're still in such a, like, dopamine high that you're not thinking straight. I'm going to be honest. And in four weeks, you cannot have fought yet, and you don't know how someone fights. And if you have already fought, that's an even bigger issue. Can I tell you something? Craig and I have not had, like...

Our first fight yet Like And I mean fight Where it's like No Like I'm fucking pissed Or like I'm not talking to you For a little Like a real Like you're in a relationship And having a disagreement fight Yeah Yeah And I'm not gonna lie Like

Not that I'm nervous for it, but like it is definitely a thing because I'm like, what do you think? I bring it up all the time, too. I'm like, what do you think we're like in a fight? Like, what do you think? What do you think the vibe is? Well, it also depends if it's a drunk fight or a sober fight, because those are also two different dynamics.

Yeah. I don't... I haven't, like, drunk fought with a boyfriend since I was, like, 25. Yeah. So I'm actually less nervous about that because it's just like... And Craig and I actually drink very well together. It's, like, the number one thing he tells people. That's good. He's like, I really like Paige because we drink well. And I'm like, you make us sound like alcoholics. Like, we're just drunk together all day. We have great drink chemistry. But, like, it is a thing. We mix well together. I do have to say...

Dez is the first guy that in fights I've found myself saying sorry. And I'm not saying that I'm like wrong with Dez more than other guys. It's just that with Dez, I care to resolve it. Yes. With other guys, I wouldn't. You have to remember like this is not important. And I just want to get past this. And I find myself saying sorry all the time. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, like, and it's so true. Like, if you want to resolve it, you really love that person. Like, I've had fights with boyfriends where I'm like, I mean, you leaving the milk out isn't a really big deal, but like, I'm breaking up with you. Because you just,

You just don't care. It's like how people see what they want to see. Like when you're ready to break up, you can fight over anything. Anything. Yeah, you just have to find a way that you guys are resolving it while also expressing yourself and remembering you're on the same team. And just remember you're not trying to beat anyone. You guys are on the same team. You don't need to win. No one's keeping score. You just want to get back to being in good graces if someone's upset and to listen.

Oh, my God. Look at us. Sometimes, like, of course, like, I've gotten pissed off before. And, like, now if I get mad, my initial reaction used to be, like, well, now I'm just going to yell things at you and be such a fucking bitch because I'm mad. But now my reaction is, okay, what about this?

Is making me upset. And what is my real feeling. Like am I sad. Am I mad. Like is it my ego that he just like hurt. Like you have to think about. Like how you actually feel about something. Because your initial reaction. Isn't how you actually feel. And then once you pinpoint that. It's so much easier to be like look. What just happened made me sad. This is why it made me sad. And like. And then he responds. Yeah.

Look at that. One month in a relationship and I'm just like a fucking therapist. I am literally that annoying girl. You're teaching him. You guys, after you get past your like puppy dog stage, it's like the boundary stage where you guys are going to push each other to see like what your boundaries are with certain things. And you have, that's when you either, you don't care to respect their boundaries and it ends. Mm-hmm.

Or you don't communicate your boundaries well and it ends. Or you communicate your boundaries and you guys are able to respect them. And that's like the oversimplification of why relationships last past like the four or five month stage. A lot of it is also, you know what pisses that person off.

A thousand percent. Like, are you ever in a situation like with other people and like, you know that like your man is about to freak out, but like no one else knows. I'm like, wow, Craig's going to be pissed about this. I think one of the biggest bonding experiences with your boyfriend is like being mad at the same shit. Oh my God. Yes. Where you just like hate things together. Oh my God, being angry at the same shit. Yeah, you're like, I hate that person. He's like, me too. And I'm like, let's talk about it.

I do think that similar to me and Des, I feel like you and Craig are like actually friends. Like if you didn't ever fuck, you'd sit in a room and like make each other laugh and you have the same sense of humor. I literally so far the nicest thing Craig has ever said to me is like, you're my best friend. Like, I love that. And it's true. Like you just...

Yeah, you're dating and you're like sexually compatible and you also like think about like bigger life things. But the day to day is really just being friends and like thinking the same memes are funny or like, yeah, I follow like raccoon accounts because Craig sends me raccoon videos and like we think they're funny and people in Russia have raccoons as pets and like we think it's odd, but we like it.

And, like, just weird things about, like, being someone's best friend. Because there's so many relationships that you just, like, stop liking the human. I don't care how beautiful his penis is. Yeah, and you're just like, I don't even care about the outcome of this because, like, I don't. And, like, it is different. Like, you know, when you fight with your best, like, girlfriend, like, you really do immediately want to resolve it because you're like, bitch, you're my best friend. Like, fuck off. And, like, if you really like your boyfriend...

You also want that. You're like, no, but we're best friends too. Like I want to resolve this quickly. Where if it's like someone you don't like or a girl that's like not really your friend, you're like, okay. Exactly. Like with your boyfriend who you really like.

You're like, wait, I can't go another minute, like, not talking to you or being awkward with you. Honestly, we're building Des and Craig up so much. I don't think they deserve it. At all. Yeah, they're so lucky to breathe our air. There are certain things that you buy every single summer. Sandals, sunscreen, snacks.

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I know you have some dope shows. Just to wrap this up, I have two really good dope documentaries. The Brittany Murphy doc on HBO Max. Okay, did you finish it? Yep. Okay, I haven't finished it yet, but proceed. What are your initial thoughts? What are your initial thoughts? My initial thoughts are what a absolute tragedy. And this guy was a master manipulator. And he killed her.

Where are you at in the doc? I just got to the part where people are starting. You know, it's crazy too, that I kept thinking about if this happened now, like,

how much more it would have been in the media. But like then there was no like social media. Yes. And back then it was all about like Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, like the thin party girls where bad stuff happens. And that was just like, that's them. Like no one gave a fuck about women. Yeah. They were just like these stupid sluts. No one cared about her at all. They literally... And she was like not at the top of her game. But I wrote some notes. Like I was that into it. Okay. Yeah. So...

There was a real conspiracy theory that there was like a mold problem. It is. There's no mold. There was no mold found in the autopsy. It's not the fucking mold. Also, if it was mold, how is her mom? Great. And her mom's like the weakest one physically.

Two, they were definitely addicted to pills. They had so many different pills. They were doing the uppers, the downers. It was so sad to see her place was like a, it was like a shithole of hoarding and like definitely you could see the mental illness and

Um, what's also scary is there was a full on intervention with her friends where her friends were like, this guy's ruining your life. And her mom and her, I haven't gotten to that. Her mom and her were like, no, we love him. And this is where I think it went wrong. Cause you know, our moms save our lives. My mom has saved my life, my life from certain men. Thank God. Countless times. This mom, he was able to also manipulate to the point that people think they were fucking.

I think they were. If you see the photos and the way they acted, it was weird. And I don't think I the mom was giving me weird fucking vibes when they did the Larry King interview and he called her baby. Yeah, I was like, and he said they sleep in the same bed together because they cried together. No one calls you baby, but the guy that you're sleeping with.

If a guy called me baby... And, like, I wasn't sleeping in bed with him every night and making out with him in the morning, I'd be like, get out. Like, don't call me that. Like, no, it's so weird. It's so weird. But it's, like, typical for a predator to be, like, trying to dominate as many women as possible. Oh, it's so disgusting. Then...

He basically fires her management, fires her agents. Everything is run through him, her email, her phones. He changed her numbers, then got her addicted to plastic surgery. Apparently he's attracted to anorexic women, got her to change all this stuff on her face. And, um, and she was,

such a good actress. Like, when they were doing the montage of some movies, I, like, forgot that she was in some movies. Girl Interrupted, I'll never forget. Like, the first time I watched that, I was actually way too young to watch that. But I remember watching it and being like, this is such a crazy movie. She was so good. And someone in the documentary was like, I can't believe she didn't get an Oscar for that movie because she would...

She really was so good. Like she would take roles and totally make it her own to the point where directors would be like, I didn't even know the character could be played that way. And she crushed it. Like no one could ever play. Yeah. No one could ever play Ty but her. She no one talks about, but like she was a star of Clueless. Like Clueless all surrounded her story.

And like someone said it in the documentary too, you know, when you watch a movie and you're like, oh, but what if like, like countless people could have played Cher. There's no one that you could have put in Ty's role and it have been as good as a Brittany Murphy. Like even like her dumb movie. I remember being in high school and watching the movie where she's married to Ashton Kutcher and they're in like Paris or something. That was great. That movie is so good. So good. So some shit went down with her and Ashton.

That I think was the downfall of her kind of mental health for a bit where she got vulnerable because her friend said she didn't want to talk about it.

And then the one thing she wanted to tell the media was that she doesn't have an eating disorder and that it was an amicable breakup. Like no one broke up with anyone. It was like mutual. But it sounds like he broke up with her. Oh, yeah. People were saying like he broke up with her, but she was like he didn't. It was like a mutual thing. But I think so. That's like just a mystery unsolved. It's interesting. Ashton wasn't interviewed in the film. I don't know. I don't know. No, I agree. I agree.

You know how Justin said something with Brittany's doc? He came out. I wonder if Ashton will say anything. Also, when you are in a relationship where... This happened to me in my early 20s. I was in a very good relationship. We broke up. And then the next guy I started dating was just awful. And my boyfriend before him, multiple times, would be like...

It's none of my business and it's not my place. But like, are you OK? Like, there's no way Ashton and her didn't talk at least once when she was dating this this guy. Like, yeah, I feel like it is weird that he wasn't interviewed because I bet he knows a lot. Like, you don't just. Yeah. You don't just see someone you used to love, like falling down a rabbit hole and not feel compelled to say something.

Or it was like that bad that they can't talk. Yeah. Because I think you know how you'll date someone and then try to like date someone different because it's like too hard to be with someone like that. Yeah. I think she purposely went from Ashton fucking Kutcher. So fucking hot. So amazing personality. Really? To this gross ass dude. And I'm not calling him gross because he's ugly and fat. I'm calling him gross because he's a predator. And I also think like he's ugly and fat.

But she wanted someone who was like the antithesis of like the Hollywood limelight. And I also think we talk about serial killers all the time, but there's so it's a serial like emotional abuser. But he also this guy was also rapey. You'll learn later. Very rapey vibes. Very rapey vibes. Oh, for sure. You don't even know. He has two children. They get into it. I need to watch the second part. You need to watch it. But what reminded me similar to Britney Spears was.

Didn't you find it weird that all the movies she was in was like directly correlated to this like dark shit she almost was going through? Like she always played these roles that were like wanting to be someone else or struggling with like pain in a relationship or struggling with drugs. Like she loved playing the dark roles. And it's like Britney Spears, all her music was always like fighting for power.

Right. Because like when she, like Uptown Girls, one of my favorite movies ever, but she always played roles that were like cute and fun. And like, yes, I understand that like the darker roles showed more of her acting range, but I feel like the reason she was so good at them was because she was letting out emotion from her real life. Like, I mean, like,

I think that if she was still alive, she would still be one of the best actresses to die. Well, it was sad because she stopped booking roles in her last couple years because he no one wanted to deal with him. So she was doing like horror movies, independent films. And then the most fucked up thing at the end is the mom takes all the jewelry he bought for Britney to this guy and says, can you sell it? Because I need cash. All the diamonds were fake.

No way. Oh my God. And it was just like a symbol for the whole relationship. But there are so many con artists out there. Yeah. And what I learned about people who get conned from all my documentary watching is you see what you want to see. Yeah. Which is what you do when you like fall for someone. You want to see their good qualities. You don't want to see their bad qualities. Right. But this guy...

It's crazy that he succeeded to this level of con. It's just, like, a true, true tragedy. Like, you know when people are like, yeah, everything happens for a reason and, like, whatever. There are certain times where you're like, but damn, that, like, that shouldn't have happened. Like, this, she should not have died. Like, that is just not, it was just such a tragedy. And then her best friend,

Her best friend was like, I, knowing what I know now, I wish I just stood outside and knocked on her door to like take her away. But like, you know, you can't look back 2020. Yeah. She's like, I would, I would have gotten arrested. I didn't care. I would have done it. But you, you, she again, want to believe that her friend was happy. Yeah. That maybe there was something she was missing. Yeah. Yeah.

but who such a good documentary so i highly recommend to finish that and um oh my god what a fucking episode we went through all types of shit no we seriously did oh my new relationships starting relationships ending um next week we're gonna do our top like three people we would have dinner with

And we'll ask you guys on Instagram what your ideas are so we can get inspired. But I'm going to San Francisco tomorrow for a show. Oh, my God. You've been traveling. I don't know how you do it. And then I'm going to Irvine, Tempe and L.A. all in like four days. So I'm already tired. Yeah, I'm exhausted. But I'll try to keep everyone posted on the travels.

Yeah, thank you so much for giggling with us. We love you guys so much. See you next time. Bye, guys.