Giggling about radio city, Molly-Mae, and anti-cuffing season
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Hello, my Radio City gigglers. Even if you weren't here this last week, we felt you.

At Radio City. No, literally. We're basically the Rockettes if they had an attitude problem. If they were very grumpy and didn't like to actually go to the gym. We are out of shape Rockettes. The Rockettes never left their bed and just send each other memes all day. Dude, shout out to the Rockettes. Shout out. I love them. You want to know what? I've never seen the Rockettes ever and I feel like that's so not page-coded.

That's so not page coded. I saw the Rockettes. And it's funny when you're younger, you literally are like, they just seem like Barbie dolls. Also, you're dying. You're like sick. I actually think I have bronchitis. Can you spell bronchitis? There's an H. Then no. No.

an H thrown, you're like, you got me. A silent H? Get the fuck out of here. No. I don't do silent H's. Quick. Okay. Highlights of Radio City. I'll start. Okay. Or you start. My favorite moment by far beyond it doesn't compare to anything is when me and you by ourselves walked out onto the stage at like five o'clock before the doors opened. I

I instantly start crying, which is so not, I got so overwhelmed by looking out into like the empty crowd and standing on that stage that I instantly couldn't hold it in. And Paige never cries. So I was like that meme where like you're holding like a broom and you start tapping your friend to be like, are you feeling better? And then I was like hugging you, but then I was like, does she need space? Like,

But yeah, you, I also think like you'd been holding it in a bit. Yeah. And you know, when you start crying over something, but then it keeps going and you're like, okay, you just tripped. You had one trip. And you're like, life is so difficult. I think it's also for us, like I feel like, not to sound like sappy or whatever, I feel like when we started Giggly Squad, even up until we started our tour, there was so much noise about like,

oh, Giggly Squad is stupid. And like, what do they even do? And like, oh, they just like talk to each other and they think they're so cool. Okay, that's literally just for men, but continue. No, that's what I mean. Like to have someone in your ear constantly of being like, oh, what is this tour? And like, do you really think you're going to like blah, blah, blah, whatever? To stand in that moment and just be like...

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wait okay so i get this video of me doing the worm slow-mo and i was like this i have to post this it writes itself it writes itself but then i was like i was like do i do a glorilla do i do frank sinatra i went through all of them and then i just funny clicked jojo siwa and i was like wait why is this fucking perfection but this is for all those people out there who might be going through something or you feel like you've been wronged in a way or people are out to get to you first of all if people are out to get to you that means you're shining that

That means they're trying to dim a light that you have. You might not see the light, but they see it. And that's why they're trying to dim it. And if you keep working hard, you will rise above it all, motherfuckers. No, my enemies have been working fucking overtime. I actually don't know where they find me hours. I make TikToks back. Why don't you take a breather? Take a fucking minute, bitch. I just have to say, what happened with TikTok, was that not TikTok just being like, gotcha? No.

TikTok is a giggler. It literally came back and was just like, gotcha. But okay, why? I know people love trends, but when everyone was just like revealing secrets and I actually wrote a couple. What was that trend? Why are people acting like the world was going to end? I'm like, guys, why are we acting like

This is the last time we're going to see you ever, and we're all going off the face of the earth. Here's why I have a small circle of friends, and it's because I truly don't believe that anyone gets me as a person. Some of the information these bitches were putting out, you'd have to waterboard out of me. I wrote some of my favorite ones. First of all, it came out that this influencer who everyone's paying a lot of money for her glute workouts has a BBL. No, no.

No way. That's a lot of them. That's a lot of them. It's giving Legally Blonde when she was like, I was getting liposuction. Liposuction. It's the same thing. And girls are all upset. Then a girl who does workouts was like, I want to let you guys know I wasn't doing any of the workouts. It's like, and then a girl who her whole thing was making coffee every day was like, I've never drank the coffee. Oh, wait, that's fucking hilarious.

And then she was a coffee influence. And then some of the girls were like, yeah, I've been on Ozempic. I liked those ones. Yeah, I loved those. I felt like it was a time for people to it was it felt like the Titanic where we're all about to get off. And you're like, I don't want to say anything. I don't want to get anything off their chest.

the titanic didn't sink literally they were like oh wait actually we found a life raft and you're like okay you know the sebastian maniscalco skit where like his i think it's the name of one of his specials where he's just like aren't you embarrassed like when people were crying and then it came back i was like aren't you embarrassed like delete it when it was gone for a night

Well, first of all, everyone freaked out because they did it early, which was fucked up. Like, don't say it's going down on Sunday and then it goes down early. And everyone was probably like enjoying their last couple of moments. But yeah, let's be honest. People low key had the most freeing couple hours of their life.

No, I started when it came back. I actually felt like, oh, my God, I'm like trapped by social media. Like even if you get away from it, it's like it's people are still on there. Yes. Yeah. It's like when Instagram goes down or even like COVID, we all for a second. We're like, oh, well, I'm not feeling guilty for not like going outside because no one's going outside. That's how I felt. But people were posting funniest TikToks when I came back. Someone was like, I had so much fun learning about who my kids are last night.

Oh, yeah. I saw a bunch of women being like, decided to get to know my husband last night. He's pretty cool. I actually started reading. I learned how to read yesterday. No, there was a moment when like that Sunday when I was like, oh, it's going down tonight that I was like, maybe I'll start puzzling. Maybe I'll get a hobby. I was like, should I become a painter? Yeah. Yeah.

I think it was beautiful, but also, like, so many people are able to monetize it and make money from it. Yeah, I mean, that part is, like, I'm so happy for, like, the small business people who have, like, their whole lives have changed. Like, that's... Mm-hmm.

But they're hustlers. So they would have like hustled somewhere else. Like if you started a small business and were able to quit your corporate job and like live, you're a fucking hustler. And I'm proud of you. I just want us to all keep our eyes open. Like I am just worried about like,

Who's in power and why and like what algorithm they're trying to push on us. But hopefully it just helps us all get that back and be entertained. Whatever you do. One more thing about the Gigglers.

When I feel like we're performing for the Gigglers, I don't feel like it's like we're the stars and they're like fans. No, it felt like we all made it. Yeah, but also like in the crowd, like they're like joking back at us. Yeah. Which is like the comments. No, so many girls in the front were saying comments that then I repeated into the microphone because it was fucking hilarious. They're fucking, they're in it with us. It felt like a big crazy brunch.

And then we did a Q&A at the end and this girl raises her hand and she's like, can I come on stage? Yeah. Paige was like, do you have a gun? Like there's like has to be some more context to this. No. Also, there is never any security at Giggly Squad because I don't think the men at the theater know what's about to go down. So like we've had security straight up be like, if something did go down, I can't take on 6,000 girls.

Yeah. And we're like, what do you want me to tackle a girl? We're not going to let you touch her. Don't fucking touch her. So then she's like, can I just go on stage and show you something?

And in that moment, I'm like, okay, she's a giggler. Like, we let her do anything. Yeah, do whatever you want. Do whatever you want. So she goes on stage and we're like, are you doing the worm? Like, what are you doing? And she's like, just watch, just watch. She does like a raquette kick down into a split. Yeah, she was perfect. The whole crowd loses their mind. And I'm like, wait, all of you could be on stage right now. Like a talent show for the giggler. No, it's so crazy. One girl posted and it really just...

I just felt like such a feminist icon. It made me so proud of us. She was like, Giggly Squad is proof that women do not dress for men. There is not a man in sight at Giggly Squad unless he is a taken boyfriend. And if that's the case, we're not fucking looking at him. So the girls coming in their outfits, I was just so proud to be a girl. Also, New York City.

The girls can dress, honey. Like they looked so fucking good. The girls. It's so funny to who's dressing for you and who's dressing for me. Yeah. And it's to the point that like I feel bad complimenting a girl who's clearly so page coded because I almost feel like she'll be insulted if I think her outfit's cute. No, the ties and like the bows. It was just, you know where you are. It was a perfect synergy. Radio City truly felt like the new house of Scientology, you know?

well someone said something like tiktok is the new tv um movies like watching a movie on tv is like the new movie theater and then movie theaters are like the new concerts and then concerts are like a full cult meeting yeah no we had we started a cult we low-key started a cult joel olstein

For hot girls. It's crazy. We started on Instagram live with like 3000 girls. See, that's why when people be talking shit about Instagram, I'm like, look, we put some respect on it. Put some respect on Instagram lives during COVID for keeping us afloat during a dark, dark, demonic time. What a time to be alive. That was what a time to be alive. Also, I do have to say, I used to think that like straight guys should come on Instagram

come to Giggly Squad if they were smart because it's just all like the hottest smartest girls who funniest girls most successful girls in every city like come together that in a show but then I realized the girls by the end of the show want to stone a man like it's actually unsafe for them

No, I feel like the empowerment when you leave a Giggly Squad show, you're like, I can fucking do anything. Like, I truly feel like the next president of the United States was in the crowd, you know, and she was wearing a tie. The Gigglers in the male bathroom?

And then there'd be like a dude in the bathroom and they literally beat his ass to be like, get out of here. It's for the girls. One of my girlfriends came to the show and her boyfriend after the show was like, you know, I was in the men's bathroom and I was uncomfortable. Should I not be in there? I was like, no, get the fuck out of there. Hold it. And now you know how it feels to be a woman 24-7 on this earth. He was like, the line was crazy. I'm like, well, that's where we make friends. Okay. So my dad actually...

could not come to Radio City because he had COVID. Who knew that that was a thing in 2025? And like he got it bad. Like he was out for the count. He was down bad. So I down down bad. So I call him. Yes. No, he called me humble brag, which we joke about like when your dad calls you two things are happening. He didn't mean to. It was a butt dial or your entire family is dead. So I was worried.

He goes, hey, I'm so proud of you. I saw the photos. You guys looked amazing. I'm really excited for your book to come out. And I was like, what? Like, that's in April. What are you talking about? And he goes, my mom. He goes, your mom sent me like a copy of the final book. And I read it all weekend. And I was like, wait, what? And he goes, it's the best book I ever read. I was like, what? And he goes, no.

He goes, I feel so inspired, but I was laughing. He goes, this book is going to be amazing. And I'm like, Dad, we didn't even get a quote from you on the back of the book. I didn't even know you knew we had a book coming out. Wait, can I add that we literally set up a play date with our dads and I felt like...

I felt like your dad, I felt like my dad was being like, can I have a sleepover with Danny? Or like, is that okay? Like, you know, like when my dad heard that your dad wasn't coming to radio city, my dad's whole night was ruined. He was like, wait, what? He was so upset. And when I said COVID, he thought I was lying. And then my dad goes, my dad goes, how's Gary? And I was like, Gary's great. And he goes, could I text him? Like, is that weird? And I'm like, I don't even know if Gary has a, if Kim lets Gary have a phone.

One note so funny is my dad doesn't have an email address. See, that's the energy I was getting. That's the energy my dad gives. The energy my father gives is, I don't know, ask him. Like, why the fuck would I have an email address? Why are all moms so much better with technology than dads?

Like, my mom has Facebook, Instagram. She knows how to use Google Docs. Because women put in the time. They put in the time to learn what they don't know. Because men wanted to be the 50s still when they still were in power. So they're not updating anything. I love that he doesn't have...

an email no we truly have the epitome of girl dads yeah my dad remember with the knicks game we took a photo and i was like okay i'll post it on your instagram for you and he goes put it in an insta story and i was like you don't want to put me on your grid and he's like no i like to see who's looking at it and i was like my mom thanked me the other day for putting um her on my grid

She was like, that was really sweet of you. I was like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with you guys. Well, I'm glad one of our parents wants to put, wants to be on someone's grid. No, my dad straight up was like, do not put our photo on my grid. I don't want that. It's going to ruin my grid. The aesthetic. Okay. Wait, speaking of grids, what do you think about Instagram changing the like length of the photo? That threw me. It threw me.

And everything's, like, shifted to the left. I don't like that. We organized... Yeah, it's not done. I feel like they're, like, in the middle of something. But it's, like... We put it as a square. So when you make it longer... Also, now I don't know what's... Look. Again. We never, like, change. And then we don't care. Social media is, like, going through it right now. Social media is, like, Mercury and Retrograde. They're, like, trying to figure out their path. Yeah. And, like, I support it. It's just... Do you remember when we got so upset about InstaStories? Yeah.

Like we lost our mind. We were like, this is Snapchat. This is just Snapchat. Like we were so mad. Wait, for the longest, I couldn't put music on my grid or my stories. I just got it fixed right before Radio City. Thank God. Thank God. We both went differently. I did Frank Sinatra old school and you went like Cameron. Yeah, I went old school rap Cameron. So Paige is back in her music era. Sure am.

And one thing we don't tell the gigglers, which is I forgot because you I don't think you listen to music for like four years, which is disturbing, which we should have checked on that. You're like, it was too loud up here. Yeah, I was like, there's so much noise in my brain. I couldn't actually think about listening to someone else. One thing about being you is we love.

hardcore pussy popping misogynistic offensive fucked up rap like we were getting our makeup done and i was like let's put music on at one point i think your mom was like oh oh no

is this getting you guys pumped up i was like actually the most female empowering green room like so powerful and i'm like put on some rap about fucking bitches and and strippers getting money yeah money um we we do have the same taste in music i told someone they were like oh what's like your walkout song and i was like actually it's like asap rocky like

fucking problems and they were like problems they were like wait really like i would have thought you guys would have had something like poppier like girlier like a female rapper and i was like i don't know it was the first ever song from the very first live we ever did and we've never changed it because it is just such a fucking vibe like

And I feel like when we're walking out, it's like we're saying to the girls in the crowd, like, you're a bad bitch. Yes. I love bad bitches. That's my fucking problem. And yeah, I like to fuck. I got a fucking problem. That's some empowering shit that we have taken. Yeah, no, I've taken that. Whatever. ASAP Rocky is married. He's a girl's girl. One of the most feminist bitches on the planet who is like an icon runs shit. So like if he if anyone knows it's him.

So my new walkout song, because I've been doing fucking problems forever for my new stand up. I'm coming up with ASAP Ferg. I don't know what's going on with the ASAPs. We love an ASAP. I don't know the history of the ASAP and it's with the money signal, but I'm doing a new level. So I come out going, I'm on a new level. I'm on a new level. Put these in the dirt. Chain me with a new bezel.

You know what's crazy? It's like, I can't, I have zero rhythm. I can't even dance. You're the kind of dancer that like,

Every now and then you can. Every now and then if it hits me, I can do it. But if I think about it too much, I can't. Like if someone watched you for an extended period of time, they'd be like, this is horrible. But like in a 10 second Insta story, they'd be like, oh, she's a good dancer. She's just holding back right now. Yeah. That's the energy I want to give. I want you to wonder, is she a good dancer or not? Yeah. Like, is she a good dancer to pretending to be a bad dancer? Right. Is she a good dancer, but she's just drunk right now? Yeah. That's the energy we want to give.

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She considers me Gen Z. I've never asked her, but I assume. Right. There was one of those moments where I realized I was older than her. Stop. Oh, my God. Those are so humbling. What was yours? It was humbling. Oh, my God. I'm going to gag. Yeah. Like, it's just weird. Because...

We're both Gen Z. So we, an Ashley Simpson song comes on because I was doing my angry woman playlist and I was like, I fucking love this song. And she's like, it's so good. And I go, I miss her old nose. And she goes, what? Pardon? And I was like, Ashley Simpson's old nose before she got a nose job. And she goes, Ashley Simpson got a nose job. My Ashley Simpson is brunette on SNL lip syncing. That's my Ashley Simpson. Oh,

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Had a career. Awesome. Amazing. Everyone loved her. And then she was just like, fuck it. I'm getting married and like having kids and doing whatever the fuck I want. And like loves her husband. She got so much backlash. So from that SNL night where it's like nowadays, I don't. People just wanted to hate on her because one, they were mad that she like got a career from her sister, which like if you're the older sister and you're a megastar,

What the fuck else are you going to do but help your sister out? It's not like she was copying her sister. She was a completely different vibe of like punk and anger and badass and baggy jeans and grunge. And like, it was so great. Two things that stick in my head about like that time of life is Ashley Simpson getting berated from SNL and them calling Jessica Simpson fat when she was a size six. Jessica Simpson is getting separated from her husband.

It's breakup season. So is Jessica Alba. So is Kaia Gerber. So is Rachel from The Bachelor. Something's in the air and women are like, hey, you know what? No. Gary, can you get me a water? And an oxygen tank. And an oxygen mask. I do think that, um...

I'm kind of loving this breakup season because normally this should be cuffing season. But I feel like for the girls, they're like, it's winter. And I actually just want to like watch murder documentaries and fart on my own. And I don't need someone to cuddle with. Cuddling overrated. Get out of here. Like summer is fun. You're hooking up. You're tan. You're making out with guys. Winter? Don't fucking touch me. Okay? No, like I want to be wrapped in my sweatpants in a fur blanket with my fuzzy socks. And if you're also under my same blanket, I'm going to get hot. And I don't want to get hot.

You know, like I've I have the perfect temperature right now. Get your frickin sweaty balls away from me. Do you know in certain other countries and cultures, partners have their own duvets? And that's nice. Yeah. I don't know why we're for. I mean, the whole sleeping in the same bed thing. I'm so down to have separate bedrooms with my husband, but like sleep in the same bed at night. Like I'm so down to go to his bedroom at night and sleep.

And then like keep my room pristine and like my stuff. I think that should be more normalized. Like we have separate rooms, but like if we want to sleep in the same bed every night, like we can, but like I'm going to go back to my room in the morning. Also, like I feel like that sounds like spicy. Like, yes.

you know like miss me do you want to sleep with me tonight and it's like i don't know we'll see i might come in later yeah like like i'm gonna watch my shows first and then like maybe i'll come in like you can like change your pajamas be a whole new bitch or you can lock the door and put a chair in front of it and say ben for your fucking self

I told you during my naughty years, my early 20s, when I was dating the guy Craig from Craigslist and we were hiding our... Which I feel like just doesn't get talked about enough. It doesn't get talked about enough. But we and we didn't want the other roommates to know we were hooking up. We would be the last to be watching TV together.

on like separate couches just happened to both be watching a show yeah and then we'd go into his room and then at like four or five a.m i'd go back to my room and then in the morning i'd pretend i was like so grossed out and annoyed by him in front of the other roommates like he's making oatmeal again ew no i mean give a girl an oscar no it's it's so fun to like have a little

well they won't they you know yeah well they won't they i'm trying to think what i what i do with des is i fall asleep on the couch and he's like i'm going to bed can you please come in soon and then i lied to him and i'm like i'm literally right behind you and then obviously i get a second wind and suddenly i need to scroll every single app and then i need to like start a molly may documentary and then i come in at 2 a.m and wake him up yeah accidentally let's talk about the molly let's get to it let's

I watched all three episodes last night for you. Yeah. Same. And I'm a fan, but I knew that we were going to discuss the way I loved her prior to this documentary. There's something here's the thing. What do you think is the Molly Mae effect?

Here's what I'm going to say. When you see certain people on TV or on Instagram or on TikTok and you see these influencers, there are a hand there. Now, there's a lot of people that can get a lot of followers, go viral, say something crazy, get a little like traction. There are a handful of people that when you see them on a screen, you feel it in your soul of like,

they have something like they have some it factor. They have some type of star quality. You can't pinpoint it, but you're like, they make me feel a different way than just like scrolling all these influencers. Molly Mae is one of those people where she just has this spark, this like,

she's a star type of thing like when she appeared on the screen on Love Island I didn't know that she was like a famous influencer in England she had had some she had followers but she was nowhere as famous as she is now when she walked into that villa I was like she's a star I don't give a fuck about any other girl in this house but her and she was full blonde and that's usually not my type no and I was like I love her and that was a

The first season me and you ever watched together during the COVID season of Summer House when we were trying to stay in bed because when we left, we'd have to fight with people. So we were just trying to watch Love Island. Trying to stay in our damn lane. Look, we tried. We tried to stay in our own lane. People didn't know we were trying. I said, let's learn some English slang. That'll keep us occupied. But you know what is, Molly Mae is very page coded. We're like, I didn't feel that connection to her.

Okay. Like you immediately were like, I was like, I like her, but I wasn't, I think also, yeah, we, me and Paige are different with like people that we become obsessed with. We've never been obsessed with the same people. No. Oh my God. No, we haven't.

No, we don't have the same. OK, we don't have the same like favorite celebrities and we don't have the same like favorite male celebrities. We have complete opposite type of men and complete opposite type of women. No, we really do. When we meet people like we've never both been hyped up for someone.

Hannah no we haven't like actually I specifically remember one time meeting someone and you being like oh my god I'm so obsessed and me being like I feel like they don't really like me or like when like someone comes up to me and you're like oh my god Paige we love you and you're like okay well that was weird I'm standing right here like that does happen to us a lot I feel like all the time actually people will either be like obsessed with Paige or obsessed with me or like pretend to be obsessed with both of us yes

And we're like, you don't have to pretend. We've accepted. Like, I feel like if we met Molly Mae, like she'd be excited to see you. Yeah, I get that. No, I love her. But my thing with Molly Mae is she really reminded me of you in that this whole thing is one about you.

her having a public relationship and then her dealing with backlash, whatever, and then her starting her own fashion brand. But what I loved about this documentary, which made me fuck with Molly Mae, is that a lot of these documentaries are like a look at me, why I'm so amazing. Yeah. This bitch cried the whole time. Cried the whole time. Cried the whole time. And like, there are so many things that I'm like, they could have cut that out. Like, I...

And it wasn't even like, I don't know, just really fucking raw. I think another reason why I loved the documentary so much was like after we did our beta blocker episode and after we did like our breakup episode, I had so many girls saying like the nicest things to me. And they were like, no, you truly don't understand. Like, I feel really seen with the things you said. Molly Mae said so many things during that documentary that I was just like, holy shit, like,

Like I feel so fucking seen. Like, yeah, I fucking knew that wasn't my fault. Like that is just so many different things where I was like, damn, I went through that same thing or like I know how that feels, whatever. Like she was really showing behind the scenes. For example, she's launching her first fashion line, fashion line, but she's doing her first event where people were going to see it. And she's like, I haven't ever done like a live event meet and greet with people. And it shows her.

freaking the fuck out about every detail of it. And like, we've all been there where it's your name on it and like, you feel like other people aren't caring about it like you care about it and you know you're the only one that gets backlash if it doesn't come out right. And you're like, you start just feeling like I'm fucked. And her leaning into that, her also saying how she takes like hundreds of thousands of pics. Okay.

and sometimes we'll just leave up on the pic like there was so many of that remember when i was really obsessed with my grid and it was like literally putting me into like it was actually like ruining your life no i didn't even know she even mentioned she was like girls like me because my fashion and my grid and i was like oh i guess i thought that was a thing you made up no my grid is like so wait are you telling me you think people don't follow me because they see my grid and they're like oh pages don't

that the grid no i'll follow a bitch in fucking siberia if i'm like damn her grid is aesthetic what makes it like just like similar colors it makes me happy like it's just like looking at it makes me happy but like can you explain what makes a grid aesthetic or it's like you can't put your finger on it it just has to be like equal parts cohesive but equal parts different and cool and like

It's honestly a lot of pressure. Like I really felt, I really felt for Molly Mae. I was like, no, I get it. Like your grid is so important. It's also our creative outlet. Like it's what we see in our brain. And then to put out into the world of like, I think this picture looks really cool next to this picture. And like this outfit compliments this outfit. And like, I'm wearing red in this outfit and like a little bit of red in that one. So I'm going to put those pictures near each other because it looks pretty. Like it's all about like matching. Yeah. Yeah.

Imagine a guy's like, I was into Paige, but then I saw her grid and she had like a yellow randomly on like the third row. And I was like, I don't fuck with her. Okay. Well, that man is gay. One of my favorite scenes was this meet and greet.

where, first of all, it was not organized. Like, I don't know what they thought it would be, but they thought people would come in and casually, like, say hi to her. But clearly, like, every single person that went in wanted a photo with her. And she's being so nice, but you could see she's, like, doing hundreds of photos. And then it cuts to her hiding in the basement, crying, saying no one's having fun.

And I can't just sit down here the whole time. But whenever I go up, it's awkward. And then she had to walk outside and just... Someone was like, hey, just tell everyone thanks for coming. She walks out. She says, thanks for coming. Turns back and she goes, that was so fucking awkward and everyone hates me. Like, it was so funny because...

When you're a fan of someone, you don't see that side of it that like they're feeling embarrassed. That's how I felt after my panic attack at Giggly. I was like, everyone hates this show. They're never going to come. They think I'm bad at this. Like you really, you're in your own head. It reminded me of you. It reminded of you in terms of like our first meet and greets. Paige would get blackout because she like couldn't do it. I was so nervous. And then you, because it was like,

Meet and greets can be hard where every person you want them to have the best experience. And if you think you had an awkward interaction with someone, which happens, you think you you suck and then you start spiraling and you think everyone hates you. I'm like, oh, my God, that girl definitely hates me. Never is never going to listen to Giggly Squad again. Here's one thing I do want to point out that I found so, so empowered. I don't even know. Whatever.

Just like a fucking man. She was hitting the pinnacle of her career. Something she had been working on for three years. No one even knew she was coming out with a fashion line. It's literally about to drop within those couple of months. She's so stressed about it. She's been working on it for so long. Just like a fucking man to come in, fuck up her whole mental health. She's now got to deal with him and his fucking problems. What?

While simultaneously dealing with like launching this that she's been thinking about since she was a fucking child And he just ruined it. He ruined it for her. I think about it all the time Not that this is related whatsoever. But when I watched the Who are they Jonas Brothers fighters? No Tyson Logan Paul, what's his name? Yeah, Jake Paul Jake Paul the one that that fought Mike Tyson and

When I was watching his documentary, obviously, like, his girlfriend was in it because it was, like, whatever. Yeah.

When men do a documentary about something that they're like, it's their career, their girlfriend or significant other or whatever is always in the documentary about how much she supported him and how much like, what did she give up so that he could do that? Or like, how did it impact her fucking day? Never touch on her fucking life. And that girl's like a professional skier. Yeah. That girl's a professional fucking athlete. Never touched on it. Didn't give a fuck.

We're here like when it's but when it's a woman, it's so if that was a man, if if Jake or whatever the fuck his name is, was doing his about to do that fight and his girlfriend went and fucked up his mental health or like cheated on him or did something, they'd be like, you are the devil. How could you not fucking support him? But when it's a woman.

And she's putting out a clothing line and a man wants to come in and act like it's not that big a deal. Like I'm going to hit you with some like real fucked up emotional shit. No one says anything. No one says anything. Why is Tommy not getting so much fucking hate right now for like you ruined her launch? You literally ruined it.

I don't know, but I'd like to unless they're back together. And that's a decision that she made. And I support her and we support it. I do think that the mom made an interesting statement or the sister where they were like, we support you being married to Tommy, but it's not going to be easy to marry Tommy. So if you want to marry a famous man, you can, but you're going to have to sacrifice a lot of happiness when that famous man has a drinking problem.

One time my mom said to me, I think you would live a fine life. Do you want to live a fine life?

Kim, come on. It's 10 a.m. Chill. I think we've all been in that position. I remember when I was in that position once where I found a man and I knew like I got some stuff from it for my ego. But I remember feeling like I was signing a deal with the devil and I didn't know what to do. But then my body didn't stop letting me eat.

So that's how I knew. And your body said, oh. My body was physically rejecting him. She had hit her goal weight. But at what cost? But at what cost? I remember I ordered a sandwich and it was like we were working my nine to five and I couldn't finish the sandwich, which was very out of character for me. And I was really paranoid that people were noticing. And then I remember being like, what the fuck is wrong with you? You hate this man. Get out of this relationship. Just because other people think he's cool.

See, I know when that happens to me when, like, I'm not genuinely an awkward person. But when I start being really awkward and, like, clumsy, I'm like, oh, my body doesn't like where we are or, like, what we're doing. Like, I...

well yeah you almost your body starts to like fall apart and your brain and body are like you're not it's out being out of alignment that's what it's literally being out of alignment and your body will tell you like this is not good for you no when i lose my appetite there's a fucking problem yeah there's one thing being nervous there's no thing your body getting sick from the situation you've put it in so listen to your body girlies we love that for us

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She also just seems so sweet and genuine and like works really hard. And, you know, and you want to know the other thing? She didn't say a bad fucking thing about him. She did not say she did not drag this man. She could have. She probably has got stories for days. The only thing she said that I was just like, wow, when she said that,

Tommy doesn't have a drinking problem, but when he drinks, there are problems. And I begged him not to drink at my sister's wedding. Oof. Like that...

Oh, my God. You must have been holding that in for so long. And the shit that you probably dealt with behind closed doors to make sure that this man didn't get bad press or like because people would have inevitably came at you, too. And you want to know what? If he did do some fucked up shit drinking, the press would have just been like, Molly, you're stupid for staying with him. But but then when you don't support it.

It's like, oh my God, you couldn't work through it. You couldn't help him. And the drinking thing is crazy because they'll then be like, oh, I know I cheated, but it's because of my drinking problem. And it's the thing, you feel empathy because it's like, that wasn't him. He has a drinking problem, but then you have to decide. And look, this affects a lot of people. Drinking problems, I personally don't know too much about it, but what I know is...

It's not what you will see in the movies always of a guy waking up with the shakes and then needs to have whiskey at 11 a.m. It's a majority of the time. And we joke about it as comics that it's in your 20s. It's cute in your 30s. You go, do I have a problem? And this happens to a lot of people in your 30s, men and women. But if every time you or your partner or your friend drinks alcohol,

Some bad shit happens and they can't control it. That's a drinking problem. There's problems when you drink. That's a drinking problem. And look, I'm saying this as a firm coach right now because... You're also saying this as a wife of someone who is sober. Mm-hmm. So, you know, so like that's like a big... Actually, you know what? I do have a little two cents because my husband's been sober since 19. He's 19 years old. And I've learned a little bit about that stuff. But there's a lot of people that...

The only thing between you and success in your life, and by success I mean a loving family, healthy friendships, a healthy career, sometimes alcohol is the one thing

And I think that like our generation was kind of fed. Oh, a drinking problem is you wake up every day. Your body can't function if there's not alcohol inside of it. I've met a ton of alcoholics that can go five days without drinking. But the minute they pick up a drink, it's absolute mayhem. And I'm going to be honest. He probably did so much shit to her that she never got over it.

Well, she said she's like, I let him get away with a lot of shit. So we don't even know. We don't even know. We don't even know what she's protected him from. And I mean, as two people. And then it's like it's in the public being like.

All the hate is going to her where she's probably sitting home being like, you don't fucking if you knew half the shit this man has done to me. Like, it's crazy. I just feel bad for her. We're in we've done reality TV where we see the like.

Like people doing things when they're drunk that are so fucked up. Like I've had stuff fucked up done to me. And then the next day it doesn't count because they were drunk. But you don't don't forget what they said to you. Don't forget what they did to you. But then you're the fucked up one because you're holding grudges when it's like, but they do this every weekend. But because I'm I wasn't blackout. I have to forgive them.

I'm gonna let's take back the meaning of like holding grudges you know what if you did something fucked up to me two years ago and I never got over it that's not my fault that's literally not my fault that's called boundaries you did something so insanely fucked up that like I wouldn't be able to get it out of my head unless I had a fucking lobotomy so every time I look at you I fucking think of it that's why women

- Women were getting lobotomies in the 20s 'cause men had prohibition getting blackout doing fucked up stuff to them and then would lobotomize them so they'd forget what they did. - Truly. So I actually, I know Molly Mae said in the documentary, like, I'm trying to get through all of this in the hopes that me and Tommy get back together. And like, I want her to get whatever she wants.

I really pray that she does not get back with him. I hope she co-parents that beautiful baby with him. And I hope she meets someone who supports the fuck out of her. And like, also Tommy, you're not your brother. Like you don't have the career your brother does. You know,

Your wife makes more money than you. Maybe sit and chill for a fucking second. Wait, sorry. I'm laughing because I love how we started this conversation being like, whatever Molly wants to do is perfect. And now we're like, if she gets back with that man... No, listen to me. When she starts breaking down in the third episode, this isn't... Okay, this is what happens. So she goes... Spoiler alert. This is what happens. Sorry. She does... She's like, I want to get back with him. We all got that like...

No. Because you're watching it and you're watching how amazing she is. And then she's sitting there crying, not because of what's going on with their career, but because he's this stupid dipshit. He ruined...

He ruined what you've worked your whole life for. He tried to ruin it. He tried to ruin it. And I think as women, we sit back and we're like, he didn't mean to, he didn't know like what he was saying. He like, and we make such excuses. He knew what he was doing. Mm.

He wanted to ruin it for you. He had no regard. That's why he got drunk at your sister's wedding and fucked up whatever he fucked up. He didn't care that you were about to go through all this turmoil simultaneously with the launch of your brand. He didn't give a shit. It is so interesting, though, if the roles were reversed. He would never take her back.

Never. And if the roles were reversed and he was like coming out with some big thing and she went and like, was it seen in a nightclub? Everyone would be like, you're a whore. How are you outside? How are you doing? Like it's the double standard is crazy.

Can I be so mean right now? Yes. Because when I'm watching her and she's beautiful and she's smart and she's empathetic and she's an amazing mother and she's like, but he's great. It's like, I'm sorry. He's a CTE guy who chose to be on reality TV for attention. Pretty looking guy who's been spoiled his whole fucking life. Nepo brother, not Ashley Simpson, not even as talented. And-

It's like what what makes him so because I don't really believe in my heart of hearts that their chemistry is

Like, he's that funny and he's that smart and he's that caring. Because if he was, he wouldn't have fucking embarrassed you. Yeah, he embarrassed you. He embarrassed you. And then you had to pick up the pieces. That's the thing. When a man embarrasses you and then you still get blamed and then you also have to pick up the pieces and fix it. Fuck you. Like, I'll never forget it. Look, I love a good looking man. I've made very bad decisions based off of a jawline. Mm.

But once you spend enough time with that good looking man, you will see their character and their looks fade so fucking quick. So quick. I've like the ick you get. I almost get more icks when a guy's hot because I'm like, oh, you're not only you're lying, like you're trying to cover it up with these. Yeah, you're these blue eyes or whatever when you're actually the devil. And I don't want to be conned and be treated like shit.

And be the less hot one. That's crazy. No, 100%. 100%. So look, we're not Team Tommy right now. No, I'm just not. I'm Molly Mae all the way. And do I empathize with people who are struggling with addiction 100%? But you know what I also didn't like? And she very subtly shows a scene in the beginning when they're in the hot tub, when they meet for the first ever time. And they're sitting in the hot tub. And she goes...

Do you like to drink? And he says, no. And then looks at her and says, do you like to drink? And she goes, not me neither. You lied to her face the first time you hung out with her. I'm never forgetting that shit. I'm out. Wait, can I tell you something? I feel like in terms of dating, I truly feel, and this is like just based off my own experience,

like experiences and like say whatever you want. I truly feel like women do show you who they are from the jump. And that's why men like fall for them where like, I feel like you don't really truly see who a man is until like three to six months in and then you're in it.

And then you're fucking in it and you're like, wait, did I miscalculate? Because I told him what I was like and he was down. And he was showing you something. Yeah. And now all of a sudden you've you've completely changed. That's why they say with the right one. He knows first, but you don't. Yes. Because you're looking at it logically. Yeah, that's. Yes. Any guy you fell for immediately was wrong for you.

And let's be honest, when I say fell for him mainly, I mean, you were scrolling his Instagram and you're like, I'm going to marry that man. Yeah. Like, fuck yeah. No, it's because like women truly like, I'm like, I want you to be the best version of you. So I'll make that version up in my head. And then you realize they're not it. It was that quote we saw from TikTok earlier where men's sex

start at zero and we start at a hundred. So we, he has to disprove everything. We believe in him and we have to show them everything. Honestly, my biggest example of that is like I started dating someone and I was already on reality TV and then like halfway through they were like, why do you do reality TV?

And I'm like, wait, what? Like you started dating me knowing this. Like I told you what I do, who I am. I presented that to you and you're like, fuck yeah, I love it. And then halfway in, you're like, I don't love it. Change it. And it's like, that's crazy though. It also reminds me of like men will...

not tell you who they are they'll show you so him being like i don't drink but then you're black out all of love island or whatever yeah i wasn't tracking his drinking i don't have a drinking problem but like doing the most fucked up shit is crazy behavior and i do have to say like

This is a little controversial. I love an addict. I don't know if I was an addict in a past life. I connect with them. I've dated multiple addicts in my life. Women are fixers. I've dated multiple addicts because I'm like, I'll help you and I've done it. I will solve all your problems that you've never been able to solve your whole life, but me, a non-professional, will figure it out. Stick with me, honey. I'll change it. Also, when you feel love from an addict, there is no stronger love.

Once he decides you're his source, that is the attention I want as a Leo. But then you realize, oh, this is not healthy. And also he's always going to choose his addiction over you. Yeah. No, I'm definitely a fixer. And I like someone come in and fix me. How about that? How about someone comes in and gives me some advice? But I also feel like the thing a lot of girls would like to be fixers because they're

There is more maternal, but there's also this like, if I focus on fixing him, I don't have to address like what I'm missing or what I want or any of those things, which is more complicated. I think that's why being single is so healthy because you get to learn like what you want, what you need. So when he comes in and starts having issues instead of being like, yes,

I have a new project, so I don't have to focus on myself. You go, whoa, whoa, whoa. I have a project here called me. And if you're going to fuck that up, I actually like don't think this is going to work out. No, I mean, I've only been single for a couple months, but like already I'm

Just in terms of like my single life, like my own like personal life, like I never wanted to work out. Obviously, like you want to work out because you want to like be hot or like whatever. I never wanted to work out because I didn't I feel like I literally didn't care about my body. Like I didn't care if I was healthy. I didn't care if I was strong. And then when I was like single, I was like, oh, no, like I have to like.

stay alive, you know? And so just like yourself in these streets. Yeah. Certain things that I was like, I'll never be able to do that. Like that's so not me. I'll never be able to get into that routine. Random, like just naturally came really natural. Like I,

I've been working out three times a week and it like I haven't even thought about it. Like I'm so proud of you. I don't know. It was just very empowering for like my own self to see like, oh, I thought I'd never be able to quit that or I thought I'd never be able to like start that up. And so then when you're doing it naturally, you're like, wait, I'm way stronger than I was giving myself credit for. I was literally gaslighting myself.

Also, I hate to say it. Sometimes you think like you're the problem, but sometimes you just have to change like your environment. It's very hard to change yourself when you're doing the same thing every day. But if you it's like why people move or they get out of a relationship or they start a new job that helps you with change. Also, one thing about being a caretaker, I do have to say like it is we're not saying don't be a caretaker. Just make sure where what you're caring for cares for you back.

Right. Like it really is true. Like filling up someone else's cup and then like not filling yours. It really drains you. Wait, did I? Speaking of Pilates, because I know you've been on a Pilates kick. We both subconsciously like started doing Pilates this week. And when I say started, I did it once last week.

and I've done Pilates sporadically because you know I'm very busy with hip-hop yoga right but I went with my mom a couple times so I was like I'm not signing up for a beginner class I'm gonna sign up it's called like mix and it's like make sure you've done at least three Pilates classes I was like yeah I got my ass kicked you get your ass beat like they started off being like okay take your legs and put it over your head and I was like yeah this is a warm-up yeah

No, the shakes I get during Pilates is crazy. The exorcism of your body. And then they keep using all these words like pelvis, which I thought was a made up thing. When they say internal rotation, I'm like, what the fuck does that mean, bitch? Are you talking about my clit? Like, what are we talking about? They're like, internally rotate your hip. I'm like, how the fuck?

Am I supposed to know if it's internally rotating? They're like, we're going to use a muscle that you've never activated before. And I'm like, here's 33. If I didn't need it till now, that's like an appendix. I don't need it. I saw the funniest Pilates video.

of like after you murder someone and it's you like pulling the dead body and then it goes to your Pilates instructor and they're like strong back raise your spine and the girl like changes her posture as she's pulling the dead body no Pilates is really truly actually the only thing that helps my back problems

Because I think I have back problems because I literally, my back was not strong enough. So I would like hunch over and like it would just like hurt so bad. And so I truly feel like it's the only thing that like builds muscle in my fucking shoulders. In your prenuvo scan, did you have anything going on with your spine? I didn't. Okay, not to brag, but my L4 and L5 has a slip disc. Well, you're an athlete. You're an athlete. So you probably have so many old injuries that like...

Yes, but I also think I have this obsession with, you know, when you buy a sectional, that long part of the couch, that's where I thrive in my life. Like when in doubt. You love a chaise. You love a chaise. I'm like a cat. That is my comfort zone. Like there's a sunken spot in this in that part where I live my day.

I'm lying down, but then with my head... Same. And so I was like researching and they're like the worst part because sometimes I'll be sitting for a couple days and I'm like, wow, my lower back's killing me. Like I just like deadlifted something. But your spine is supposed to not be that direction basically. So like we're doing it to ourselves. That's why I got an adjustable base bed, truly. Because I was like, I can't sit...

sit like this because your head is down looking at your fucking phone. And for all you Gen Z's, my fellow Gen Z's listening, being like, are we listening to a podcast about two girls complaining about lower back? We're helping you get ahead of it. No, I have upper back problems. So actually we're killing two birds with one stone.

We're looking out for all of our spines. Your L4, your L5. We're just, this is for girlhood in general. Keep your spine healthy, your mind healthy. Do yourself a favor. Book a fucking Pilates class. Pet your cat and shake it off. Okay, Taylor Swift. Literally, I want to go do Pilates with Molly Mae and be like,

Let's find you a man, honey. Shout out Molly Mae. We love you so, so, so much. No, I love her. Thank you for putting out that show and being so vulnerable. No, I truly felt I actually felt closer to the gigglers when I watched it because like obviously like when girls DM me and they're like, you know, really made us feel seen.

I can appreciate it to a point because I'm like, oh, that makes me feel so good that my words helped you. Molly Mae's words helped me. So I was like, oh, my God, I fucking love the gigglers. I know exactly how you feel. All I wanted to do was text Molly Mae and be like, you don't understand. That helped me so much. I thought I was a raging bitch sometimes, but really it was like, no, you were fucking up my shit. Like, move. Okay.

Molly, when you were complaining about your grid and the pressure of your grid, it really changed my life. No, it did. I was in a really dark place. Then you talked about your grid stressing you out. And now I feel seen. No, when she was like, I take a thousand pictures and I delete all of them. I'm like, it's my favorite hobby. No, we love you. We love Molly Mae. Quick update. We have we added more live shows, y'all.

We added more live shows. We're in Nashville, New Orleans, St. Augustine, Hollywood, Florida, Tacoma, Washington, Portland, Oregon, Las Vegas, Nevada, Salt Lake City, Utah. I don't know if any of these sold out. Double check. Go to linktree.com. It's on our Instagram. Also, I'm going to Alabama. Jesus. When are you going to Alabama? I think next month. Birmingham.

let's go we love you guys so much thank you for giggling and we'll talk to you later thank you for coming to radio city you guys are the fucking best yes shout out bye