Giggling about the Jonas Brothers, phone scams, and getting into clubs
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just got away from me. Good morning, gigglers. It is 10 a.m. on a Tuesday, and it's proof that people can do hard things.

You know what? People always give us so much shit. Like, we're always in the bed. We're so lazy. Whatever. But I'd like to think that we started the country moving forward in terms of, like, only four days a week in an office. I feel like that is the biggest pyramid scheme of our culture. I think if we're going to get into history, in the 80s, it was, like, cool. Everyone's like, we're making money. We're going to work. And then we realized, like, holy shit. Our whole lives should not be sitting in an office for the mans. Right. And...

But let's be honest, them saying like, you don't have to come in every day is them saying you can be in the bed. It just doesn't sound professional. Yeah. And when they're like, oh, you've unlimited vacation days. I'm like, that means I have no vacation days because every time I take it, they're like, oh, you're taking it. Interesting. Yeah. It's fucked up. And basically, if you can find a way, you want to work, obviously, but you want to find a way to do what you love. Right. Right.

Okay. Jesus did say she had an interview on TikTok where they asked. Oprah's on TikTok. I think it was just a clip. Okay. Oprah would never like actually post. She's busy. Oprah's doing the TikTok when it's like at brunch and someone says, can I be mean for a second? Oprah's with Josh Richards on TikTok. Oprah's like the new co-host of BFFs.

I would love to see her make a change into like Gen Z. I wonder what her TikTok brand would be. Right. She's just making fun of her husband on TikTok being like, men are trash. Yeah.

Yeah, she's the queen of de-centering men. She never even married that man. Really? I don't think so. Good for her. He's still chasing her every day. She's like, who are you in my home? Who gave you the key? But anyway, someone was like, you've interviewed some of the most successful people in the world. What do they all have in common? And she goes, they all know exactly what they want. Wow. Because I thought she was going to say like, oh, they all wake up at 5 a.m. Err.

They all, you know, meditate for 10 hours a day. There's so many people that work hard, but they don't actually know what they want. And it reminded me of what they're working toward. It reminded me of us. Yeah. You've always been very specific about what you want. Yeah. And is the universe going to give you that exactly? No, but it's going to get

towards that. Yes. And sometimes it's better than what you thought you wanted. And then you have the choices of like which door to go through. Exactly. We're all just feathers in the wind. Yeah. If you're just look at us having a deep morning. I've always wanted to be a sleepy baby. Yeah.

I've manifested how to be a sleepy baby. Everyone gets so mad at me at Summer House. They're like, she doesn't get out of the bed. She's always sleeping. I'm like, I've managed. But I have to tell you, people are choosing to show you in bed. Someone made a decision to be like, let's put a clip here of Paige in bed. Everyone is in bed in that show at some point. The editor that made Sheena Boy crazy also made me sleepy. But.

That's what it is. They're like, she's in the bed, throw that three second clip in there so she gets some heat. Oh my God. Well. Anywho, I feel like we have a lot today. We have a lot to discuss. You're basically in the Jonas family. I'm a JoBro. Yeah. Are you a Jonas Brothers fan? I'm not not a Jonas Brothers fan. I am a fan. I did not know that they were back together, but I feel like I missed them.

I was at the age, we were at the age where like we missed camp rock. Yes, we were a little old for it. But like we knew what was going on. I wasn't ever like Joe Jonas is the hottest man on earth. I will say one time I saw Joe Jonas at a club in Miami and I did get like, oh my God. Your kids would have the most amazing eyebrows. They'd be very hairy. What was he doing at the club? Just clubbing, you know, doing like what you do at the club. This was like years ago. This was like six.

almost 10 years ago. So yeah, I was like you where I wasn't like a crazy Jonas Brothers fan, but like I appreciate the art form. I did watch the documentary on the Jonas Brothers. Yes, you did. And they had basically like a couple of TikTokers that were going to collab with them to promote this new song Waffle House, which is actually like a really good song coming out. Yeah. And you basically, they're in a room and we're all like standing outside of the room and we're nervous. And Nick, you can miss him. Yes. Put him in your pocket. Yeah. Look up and he's walking back from the bathroom and

And I'm just standing in the line and he looks at me and he puts out like a little fist. And he says, you're that lesbian TikToker. So my friend, Ashton Gavin, who is a lesbian TikToker, messaged me and goes, I think he was talking about me and you guys just like made this about you. I'm like, not the first time. I know.

If I had a nickel. If I had a nickel. Where we took something that was not about us and we were like, how can I paper mache this into it being about me? Paper mache. That's like what I studied in college. So Nick fist bumps me. Okay. I guess because he had just washed his hands, which was like super polite of him. And I think I. You grabbed it. I awkward turtled it.

I was like, that feels right. You were like, do you have three front teeth? Let me see. I didn't know about this conspiracy until recently. I was Googling it. Everyone's messaging me about it. But he was like so chill. I always feel like there's so many levels of celebrity. Like people will recognize me on the street. Right. And then like, I'm that person on the street recognizing him. Right. And you're like, how do I act? What do I do with my hands? I get nervous. I think.

I think I said something like, "See you in there." I always go too far. - Something like a dad. - I was like, "Mr. Jonas can't wait." Like something stupid. I did like finger guns. I was like, "Yeah!" So I walk in and I'm like, it's awkward because they're doing whatever content you want. So they're kind of standing there and there's this team of 10 people making sure you don't do anything stupid. And obviously my content is stupid. So I'm like, how are we gonna pull this off? But I'm like, "Okay guys, I'm gonna ask you some questions.

And I was nervous. I was nervous. Yeah. Because they give you like five minutes and like... I would be worried if you weren't nervous. True. And I was like, I could fuck this whole thing up and not have any content and they'll never ask me to do anything again. They'll never put me near an important person. Yeah. I will be blacklisted from the Jones Brothers. Yeah. But I, you know, I need a banter and I need to get something good. So I was like...

do you guys like sweet or savory for breakfast? Like easy question. They said no to all my other questions about blue balls and stuff. They were like, just ask them about fucking breakfast, okay? Okay.

Oh, so you had to be like a little wholesome. I was wholesome. But you knew that I had to be funny with it. But that's when bad things can happen. So I asked Kevin and he's like, I only eat savory. And then I asked Nick and he's like, I only eat savory. And I'm like, guys, it's not like not manly to not eat something sweet. And Nick goes, well, I have diabetes. And my heart like went into my butthole.

There was like an awkward moment where people were like, this just got... You were like, not again. I'm so happy you're not pregnant. But this is a close second. I was like, I knew that he had diabetes. But he does the commercials. He does commercials that are iconic. You were like, wait a second. Do you have a hookup for a Zumpik? Because I do have a few friends.

Did you ask him his take on Ozumpa? They would never have let me. But I started dying laughing. And I think because I laughed, they all laughed. Because that could have turned an interview wrong. Right. Like you could have gotten nervous and been like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. Yeah. So I just kept laughing. And I was like, what do you have against sugar? Yeah. And he kind of was laughing. So it's kind of those awkward moments that could bring people together. Yes. And then people were messaging me. They were like,

Growing up, apparently when Nick came out and said he had diabetes, like all the girlies thought he was dying. Like everyone was like...

Like no one really knew what diabetes was. Like when you're eight, you don't know what diabetes is, but it sounds fucking serious. I'm 30 and I still don't know the difference between type one and- Like if I told you I had diabetes, you'd be like, how long do we have? Yeah. How many more episodes can we do? Type one, type two, I have no idea. Yeah. He was like type one. And then Joe kept like kind of Hugh Granting me. Okay. Did you say that to him? Cause that's funny. He wasn't Hugh Granting me, but he was trying to be like funny with me. Yeah. Like the other guys were like, ah, she's making me laugh. And he was kind of like, I'm funny on TikTok too. Yeah.

He is funny on TikTok. Very funny. I kept asking him, like, who wakes up the earliest? Who takes the longest to get ready? And he kept being like, well, we're adults. We don't live together. At first, I was like, that's a good point. Ha ha. And then he said it again. And then I was like, okay, you're getting so defensive about being an adult. And I'm starting to think you're an actual baby. Yeah.

He quickly responds and goes, yeah, I'm three babies holding up a man right now. And I was like, I'm obsessed with you. Oh my God. So we were full bantering. They, after this content stuff, it said they were mingling for an hour with all these like influencers that came to watch their performance. And I was like, mingling for an hour? What the fuck are they getting paid for this? But they come out and they literally do like one walk around for like two minutes. But I had forgotten to get a selfie because I was...

so nervous. Yes. And I had just made fun of Nick's diabetes. So I find Nick's like walking by and I was like, Nick's sorry about the diabetes. And he started laughing. He's like, no, it's cool. You got to laugh about it. And I was like, can I get a picture? And I, you know me, I never ask for pictures, but I got the photo and then, and then you texted me and you were like, I'm so proud of you. And I was like, it was all for Paige to be proud of me.

So the Jonas Brothers are cool. They're honestly kind of sweet and nerdy. And I feel like because they're brothers, it keeps them... Humble? Yeah, like they shit on each other. Keeps them grounded. Exactly. Kevin tried to say something and Joe shut him up. And then Nick was saying he takes a long time with his hair. And Kevin was making fun of him. And I feel like that... If you don't have friends that are bullying you softly, your ego is going to get out of control. Nobody is...

more honest than a sibling. Like if you truly want to know about yourself, you can ask your sibling. My brother says that my entire career and my an ounce of humor is because he bullied me my whole childhood and that I should be paying him a monthly fee because I am who I am because of him. He's going to Dane Cook you. He's going to Dane Cook this shit out of me.

Hey, woke up. Nothing's in my savings account. Gary's living in a mansion. So you do the fucking math. Gary's smoking his cigar in a pool just being like, I love Giggly Squad. Sometimes Gary will randomly send me cars and I'll be like, it'd be sick if you bought that right now for me. I'm like, what? Oh my God. Wait, so you were in Charleston last weekend? Yes, this past weekend. And nothing happened. Nothing happened.

How's the pool? Everything's great. But the best thing was...

We had to go. Craig had to do something in Connecticut for work or whatever. So we had gone just for the night and stayed in the hotel or whatever. And it was fun. So I get this text. So he leaves early in the morning to go do whatever. And then I'm going to take an Uber back to New York City. So I get this text message from this girl being like, oh my god. Let me see if I can pull it up. Pull up the receipt. OK.

Okay. We texted for like a while. Girl, Kevin cheated on me with Annie. I just went through his phone and they're flirting back and forth. And I said, I think you have the wrong number, but I'll legit kill Annie. Then she goes, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I typed her new number in wrong and forgot to delete the wrong one out. But yeah, I'm going to confront her at my friend's birthday dinner. Maybe. I don't know what to do. I said, oh my God, I'm so invested. Is Annie your friend? And also Kevin can suck a dick. She goes, Annie is a friend. Okay.

Annie is a friend. Annie is Rico. That me and my girlfriends met at a bar two years ago. I introduced my friends...

to her at dinner. Then she lost her phone and needed help finding it, but mine was dead. So I used my boyfriend's phone to call her phone multiple times. I don't know if that's when they started talking or when or what, but they planned to meet up with each other in text. I was rushing to work, so he has no idea that I even know and saw his phone. So that's a lot to unpack. I said, oh my God.

I feel like you have to confront him and give her the silent treatment. She said, sorry, I'm responding late. Just working. So she's apologizing to a person she doesn't know. But he just moved into my house a month ago. This is tough. I said, I'm so sorry. She said, you're so kind. I appreciate you, stranger. Hopefully your day is better than mine.

So whatever. I go about my day. This was literally the girl's bathroom through text messages. I go about my day. A couple days later, I'm laying in bed. I'm in Charleston. I get another text message like that from a different number being like, oh my God, so-and-so cheated on so-and-so. They saw her out on a date with him, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, there's no way.

I'm getting another text message. So then, so I tell Craig and he's like, yeah, you're getting scammed. Like stop responding to these people. So I started Googling it and it is a scam, but like no one was,

I think the first girl was legit. And then I think the second girl was legit. So I'm like Googling all this stuff and I like Google myself to see if you can like find my cell phone number. Anything I found on myself was wrong. Yeah. So I was like, I don't get whatever. But the Gen Z's, I guess there's like some app where you can like find someone's number or like try and text someone, whatever. The worst part about it was I felt so old. Like,

I was like, oh my God. I feel like you're getting pushed into a locker. I felt like a grandma. I felt like Jen Shah's people she scammed. This is karma for when you were texting me the words from Miranda Priestly.

From the TikTok thing and I kept being like, are you okay? And you just kept going. Yes. It's karma from like prank phone calling people in high school. Which reminds me of, so I texted you a list of like 10 men's names and you responded okay. So I didn't process that I had been texting the wrong person. So I kept texting men's names. Des was looking for people to, for comedians to feature for him for a show. Okay. So I must have been texting you. You just texted me?

Six men's first and last names. So you go, I did not sleep with these men. And I was like, did Des just write that for me? Like, oh my God, Pedro. I started crying laughing. Oh, because Des and DeSorba. Do you have me in first and last name? Yeah. Honestly, I almost always text you my... I remember I texted you the other...

We never forget. I sexted you before. Yes. In Vegas. That was fun. When I go to type in your name to text you on my phone, well, now I have your conversation pinned. Yeah. But I used to type in being birds. I know. People don't talk about whose conversations are pinned. I didn't even know you could pin and now I feel old. It's basically...

MySpace top eight, but only you know. Oh my God, I pin all my... Giggly Squad is pinned with Grace. You're pinned. Wait, I didn't even know. My family, my agents. Wait, so people are texting people who are celebrities gossip because they know that certain celebrities want the gossip and the next thing you know, they're having a conversation? I think maybe I was the only person that they texted with gossip like that because they were like, this bitch is going to respond. So...

What's the point of the prank? I don't know. I responded to one person. She was like, so sorry for this. And I was like, I love the tea. I'm so bored. Give me all of it. I don't care if it's a scam. I want the tea. But it's not like anyone was like sending me a link. Or like, just tell me your social security number and I'll tell you who you cheated on me with. But then Craig got one the other night and he was like, you are getting scammed. Don't like open these.

Wow. And I was like, come on. That's like really smart next level pranking of Gen Z's. But I don't understand the point of it. Me either, because I had a good time. Like jokes on you, I had fun.

You're like, okay, I know it's a scam, but what happened with Kevin? I'm fully invested. I can't sleep at night. And also, if someone was trying to like, oh, let's get Paige Disorder's cell phone number, which like nothing fun is happening. You could text me and say, hey, I found your number and I just wanted to say hey. And I'd say hey back. You don't have to scam me. Also, it's hard to scam me because I don't pick up any phone numbers, even if I know who it is. No.

Oh, if these people called me, I'd have zero contact with them. God, no. No caller ID is hell no. No. And I'll get that shit sometimes. But she does voice notes.

We do voice notes. People don't talk about how voice notes are just podcasting. When the tea is hot, we voice note. My mom at one point, we'd been voice noting for like two hours and my mom was like, just call each other. And I was like, absolutely not. I don't have time to call her right now. But obviously if you're doing a voice note, you're in a place where you could be on the phone.

Like we were both sitting on our couches alone in our apartments. But sometimes I like to process it. I like to like, then I like to think how I want to present my next thought. I also love listening to my own voice back. And like, what was her version? Like, what did she hear? I'm like, oh yeah, that was good.

Well, when Paige does ads, she sends me ads. And at the end, she always like says bye in a funny way. And sometimes you like accidentally burp and I'll just like replay it and die laughing and be like, what if I kept this? Well, I talked to you. I'm like, okay, this is this ad. And then she'll like fumble an ad and she'll get like so annoyed. She's like, I can't fucking read right now. Then you had to spell something out and you couldn't spell it. And then you argued with me. You're like, I did spell it right. I'm like, bitch, you did not spell it right. And now I'm trying to edit it.

You are a little dyslexic I'm a lot dyslexic No I'm a lot dyslexic And the lady was like mad at us She was like you did not spell this right And I wanted to be like She not only might have diabetes But she's also dyslexic and pregnant How dare you Anywho Anywho

Oh, God, we have so much. I want to talk about Gwyneth. Okay, let's get into it. Gwyneth had done a podcast interview. I forget whose podcast she was on. This poor guy isn't even getting any clout. He's supposed to be her doctor. Like they were discussing the regimens that work for her. It was like a Dear Media podcast. Okay.

So she does this podcast. He's asking her like all of her health stuff, whatever. And she basically says what she eats in a day. She wakes up. She drinks coffee. She doesn't eat anything until noon. Then she drinks bone broth. That's it. Then at nighttime, she's paleo. So she eats like vegetables. And so everyone's coming out being like Gwyneth Paltrow is... What is the word? Hungry? Yeah.

Promoting eating disorders? Gwyneth Paltrow is starving, but also promoting eating disorders. As an... Okay. If I'm in college and I'm seeing that Gwyneth Paltrow doesn't eat, in my head, am I going to be like, oh, I'm not going to eat? Maybe. But as someone who's in their 30s knows Gwyneth Paltrow's deal, I'm not listening to that and being like, oh, I think I'll order bone broth today. So, like...

certain people like we know what their shtick is if you think that they promote unhealthy eating don't listen don't buy anything from goop don't even go near the website but that is gwyneth paltrow's thing she's always been like that and the bone broth is like 500 it's bones no literally it's a small baby's bone broth like this is an elite baby from disney's box

you can even get her bone broth if you want army hammer would love to have again if your name is gwyneth obviously you just eat vegetables no one named gwyneth has shake shack for lunch my thing was i don't even know what the fuck paleo is like i heard it and i was like i've i have no idea what that would consist of i guess it's how people ate like when the dinosaurs were around is it

That's a paleo... No, we're thinking of like a paleontologist. Is that like something? That might be something. We're thinking of archaeology. If your diet is that complicated that I don't know what it means, you're hungry. You're hungry. But the selective outrage is so interesting to me because I was talking to this girl and

Ella Halika's. She's this amazing plus size model about how we're allowing heroin chic to be a thing. I'm like, where's the outrage for like glamorizing heroin, which is, which ruins lives. I'm putting chic next to it. Like, but the fashion industry decides what they're mad at and what gets canceled versus what does it. But like heroin chic should not come out of anyone's mouth. I'm not going to say it anymore. Yeah.

Gwyneth is too bitchy to get canceled. True. Well, Gwyneth is like, if you don't know what paleo is, I don't want you as a fan. Right. She also doesn't want Gen Z. No, Gen Z girls don't want to look like Gwyneth. Gwyneth doesn't want to look like the Gen Z girls. No, she caters to 40s and 50s, I think. Women who are just like so rich and so bored, the only thing they worry about is what they put in their body. It's also...

Also, like, different generations have different trauma. True. You can't now go... Like, the 20-year-olds can't go to 50-year-olds and be like, you've done everything all wrong. Yeah. Yes, they've done certain things wrong, but you can't... She was raised with Kate Moss and all that stuff. Yeah, she's in a different time. She's the queen of the almond mons. When we cancel people that are dead, I think it's the funniest thing ever. Like...

I love it. I hope that when I do die, the day after, I'm canceled. I think I'm going to be Picasso. I'm going to have a below average career. And then when I die, people are going to be like, she was a genius.

everything she said was amazing that fart joke she did on stage iconic but it's it's funny how yeah after people die and times change contextually things change anyway what else is going on in front page news oh my gosh okay did you see um the diplo embrada blowjob thing

So crazy. I do. At first I was like, Amrata has a podcast. Like I didn't feel a lot about it, but then I feel like she's getting her friends to talk more than they would on an average pod, which is fun for me. Like they feel more comfortable with her because you can be like, oh, take that part out or whatever. But again, kind of like the Raquel Tom Sandoval thing, because I had to bring it up.

I was not surprised. Not surprised at all. I was like, now I actually feel more comfortable with Diplo. Like, that makes sense. I do think him saying it's not, he basically said, yes, I've gotten blowjobs from guys. But I'm not gay. But I'm not gay because I haven't made eye contact with them when they were doing it. Well, in that case, I'm a virgin. Like, don't look me directly in the eye either. I was about to say, I don't know if I've ever made eye contact.

I've done nothing sexual if that's what the rule is. I'm out here holding eye contact during BJs. Remember, like, there was a time in your early 20s when people would, like, have a list on their phone of, like, who they've slept with or whatever. And you'd be in conversation with your girlfriend. You're like, but that one didn't really count. And you're like, okay, yeah, take them off. It was, like, half. He wasn't even hard, you know? Like, certain things. Like...

he did so many drugs that night and i like could feel it like like his dick was small and they were like two pounds yeah so like that doesn't count so you like take him off the list and you forget about him forever that is so that i feel like is what like it's like why i didn't look at what was what was the response from people because i didn't really see or people just were laughing i think people were just like surprised that he admitted it yeah but here's the other thing that i oh my god craig always like

is so confused by me but I think that every man I've ever met is gay like I genuinely think that like I could tell you off the top of my head how many gay men I've definitely had sex with because I do think I know one for sure actually no I've never had sex with him but I know four for sure for sure

I do think some girls are more apt to be attracted to guys who are on the low bi. Yes. And then I'm into very masculine men who also, when you're so masculine, it can turn gay. It can turn gay. So ipso facto, everyone is gay. I also think that sexuality is such a spectrum. Yes. And it's just more...

Like, it's okay for girls to say, oh, we watch girl-on-girl porn. Or, oh, like, I've made out with a girl in college or whatever. And that's totally fine. But if a guy says it, there's so much, like, scrutiny. So much scrutiny. That's what... It made me think of how, like, girls...

Like a lot of celebrities, like I kissed a girl and I liked it. And everyone's like, hot. She's more interesting now. But you're not considered a lesbian. No. Well, you might be because you are the lesbian. But you're not like, you're not immediately like Hannah's a lesbian. And I feel like so many girls have dabbled with girls because it's less looked down upon. And I feel like guys are still dabbling with guys, but they're doing it on such a level. They're doing it on the low. On the low, low. And straight girls, we have no idea how in-depth it is. But I feel like, I feel like

The more guys are getting blowjobs from each other, the less pressure it gives girls. Yeah, to give them. I do think, too, that, like, when guys aren't having sex, they, like, get pent up and angry and they become incels. You know what incel stands for is...

What is that? Involuntarily celibate. So there'll be fewer incels if they would all just fuck each other. Yes. Wow, this podcast has taken a lot of turns. It's taken a lot of turns. But justice for the men. Justice for the men. In this particular situation, look, I'm always two drinks away from asking every man if they're gay. And I have done it on multiple occasions.

To boyfriends To just friends Because If you also While you're with a guy Yes You've asked if he's gay Yes How do you recover from that?

You just pretend it didn't happen. No, not at all. I'll wake up the next morning and be like, that question I asked you, you never answered. No, because deep down, I feel like if I'm with someone and he is gay, I want him to feel like I'm the safest space. But also, if he's not gay, what if he can't move on from thinking that you think he's gay? If you fell in love with a man and found out that he's hooked up with men in the past, but he's so attracted to you, he's...

how would you move forward it would definitely be a conversation yes um i would have so many questions i would i would want i would be okay though how his mind works yes and you want to be with someone who's always fully being themselves true so if that's a part of their life i want to know that it was a part of their life have threesomes right like that also opens up a whole new door but i just no pun intended

I just feel bad if there's men out there that are either 100% gay or maybe bisexual but they feel like they can't say anything. Yeah. I would want them to see me as a safe space. Growing up, all the gays loved you, I feel like. I love the gays. You love the gays. I care about the gays and the girls and that's it. See, I feel like sometimes the gays look at me and they go, ew. Well, the gays

judgmental. The gays and I, we have like a spicy, like Chris Olsen and I, like he loves me, but like, like he would love you. Cause he's like, she's a queen where he loves me. Cause he's like, she's a dirty rat who makes me laugh. Yes. And I've accepted that. But also I have thought once you're like really in love with someone and you find out stuff about them, I feel like,

it's so much more accepting so much more accepting and you're like it changes your perspective of what you can love right and think about like anytime you're in a relationship where obviously you get into a relationship you're attracted to that person but then they do certain things that make them hotter and you fall in love with their spirit and their soul right what is that sexual pansexual it means you're just in love with people's souls yeah but in that case i'm not i'd be in love with my cat i'd be in love with myself

No, but I, yeah, I just, I feel bad that people like can't be themselves.

You know, you want them to be themselves. And I love that Diplo said that because there's so many guys that are obsessed with Diplo. And he's so hot. Cool. But I also feel like that means that he's like open in his sexuality, which is even like hotter. I feel like it's never hot when a guy's homophobic. Like it's just not right ever. And I know guys are homophobic. I'm like, you're gay. Guys that are homophobic are gay, though. Yeah. Like that's a fact. That's a fact.

I've had a gay man in every stage of my life. Like, that has been a close friend. You're ride or die. Yeah. Yeah. Even, I can think back even to, like, third grade. And then growing up and men coming... You're a gay icon. Yeah, in high school, I'm like, I knew you were gay. See, I just, I want to be big in the lesbian community. I've always connected with lesbians, like, a little more. Isn't it funny how some, like, gay men say that they don't get along with lesbians? Because if you think about it, they really do have nothing in common. They have nothing in common, but, and, except I do think that...

They have similar trauma of not being accepted in like a straight community always. But gay people are always, I'm mass generalizing, but they're so funny because they have to laugh at like the shit that they've been through. Is this a queer podcast now? I think it is. Okay, cool. We're allies. We are allies. Also, New York City is running around with closeted gay men and I've hooked up with half of them for sure. Wow, so you're speaking from like journalistic experience. You've been on the streets. No, I've been in the weeds.

in the field doing the work. I just envisioned you in like a storm like reporting live from Soho. There have been multiple times where I'm like, I don't think you like it. You can tell me. Why do you think you're more prone? Why am I prone to sleeping with gay men? Is it because you like good style? I don't know if I've actually slept with gay men, but I could presume. There was one time, this is going to get a little bit

Mom, turn this one off. I was in my early 20s and I was hooking up with this guy and I loved him. Like, I loved everything about him. He was the worst. Wait, I know what you're going to say. And one time we slept together and I was on my stomach. Okay. And so this man could not see my face at all. There was no even like a side profile. Like, I'm facing the... No eye contact. No eye contact at all. Not even a turn back. No.

Not even a slight look back. No. This man proceeds to also put a pillow over my body. Like my whole body's covered. So I'm in the sheets and I'm like, Can you breathe? No. I'm like, there's something about it. It's just not right. Something's going on.

Next day I'm telling one of my girlfriends and she's like he couldn't look at you not even the back of your head like does he hate you and then we were like he's gay like he's gay and anytime any man has ever broken up with me or called it off I've told my mom and she's like Paige he's gay. This is a combination from every guy breaking up with you and he's gay to the men who cannot make even see your face during sex. Not even a part of my body. You told me like he only did doggy. Only. Yep.

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The other day, Craig said something to me about being hairy. What did he say? He was like, you are a very hairy little girl. Because I hadn't shaved my legs in three days. Craig would be... You couldn't pay Craig to date me for a day. No, he would throw it as if the house was on fire. The house was on fire. I hadn't shaved my legs in two days, but I do shave it every day. This is so accepting of me, but there's a patch...

Under my butt. It's not my vagina area. It's not my butt. It's the legs connect. You know where it is. You've probably seen it. I've had you do it for me before. I think because I have a big butt, I can't see right below my butt and I don't care to see it. Yeah, you can't get back. If you don't see it, it doesn't matter. That's how I feel about the back of my hair. If I can't see it, I don't have to do it. I get lame on these bad boys. They're curling. And Des is so accepting of me. But at one point he was like, what happened to the laser appointments you were doing?

And I was like, oh, so much admin. I'm traveling a lot. And it kind of hurt. And they hit my perineum once. And it like really fucked me up. I shot a laser in my asshole. It came out my mouth. I decided not to go back there anymore. This shit wouldn't do. I glow in the dark now. Yeah.

I thought they're studying me. Like, it's not that... But then he doesn't get it because he's Irish and this man has the smoothest skin. Like, barely any hair. Yeah, Craig is, like, Dutch. They come out with no hair. Speaking of hair, did you see Emrata cut her hair? Did she? Or was it a wig? I think it was a wig. Okay, because it got me thinking...

I knew. I fucking knew. I got me thinking that you would look really good with a pixie cut. Okay, it's so funny because when I did see it, I was like, oh my God, she looks so good. It's so chic.

And then I was like, I feel like one day I will have a pixie. I want... What's her name? Audrey Hepburn. Audrey Hepburn has, like, a little wave in the front and short hair and, like, a little ballerina outfit. That's what I'm envisioning for you. But here's the thing. I feel like that hairstyle I will have, but not until I'm, like, in my 40s. Yeah. My mom used to have that hair. Yeah, my mom shaved her head when she was pregnant, like, full G.I. Jane triggering, but...

She was a badass. Wait, why? Was she? She said it was like, because she was so hot. It was hot in the summer. She's walking around and she's wearing those cute like floral maxi dresses, shaved head. It's so fucking cool. Wait, I need to see a picture. I'll show you. But I really don't think like, I don't have the jawline to pull it off. I don't think I could do it. Shave your head? Yeah.

I mean, I don't think I could do it either. Also like wigs, I'd have to brush them every day. My wigs would be so, you'd be like, babe, can we talk for a second? No, your wigs would be insanity. There's just a huge, like there's things growing in the back, like a bumblebee nest. For you, I've just been worried because obviously I'm obsessed with your brand and it's taking over the world, but like,

Hailey Bieber. Yeah. Cut her hair. Every bitch is cutting their hair. Chopping it. To be kind of your style. And I am protective of you. Yeah. And I'm like, how do we get ahead of it? As someone who hasn't changed their hairstyle since college. I was just going to say. I'm living vicariously through you. Every time you go. If I had your bone structure, bitch, I would shave my head. Every time you go to get your hair cut, you're like, I did something crazy. You cut off one inch. No, I did something crazy.

like crazy and like kind of cut my bangs like a little shorter and it ruined my life. You actually gaslight the shit out of me because remember the one time you were like, I think I'm going to go red. Like, no, I'm going red. And then you went, you gaslit us on Instagram. You're like, am I going red? Then the final result was your same ombre with

your same haircut. That's crazy because you're blaming me when I had a full moment where I went, just like I went to the nail salon and said, I want green. I said, I want red. And she looked at me and she said, oh honey, that's not going to look good on you. So I actually got... I actually think red would look great on you, except do you have to bleach your whole hair to be red? I'm not sure, but I think I'm going to dye my hair something for spring. And I'm going to show you it right now. I got really inspired by Alison Williams at the Oscars.

I do like her. I think I'm going to dye it like a little bit lighter. Oh, look at you just switching topics. Making it about me knowing that I'll forget. What if you were to do something with your hair? What would it be? I think about this all the time and I would just regret it. But there is one point in my life I would like to be blonde. What kind of blonde? Like a proper blonde.

Like, you know, like when JLo and like Kim Kardashian, I like this a lot. I like this. This is kind of your tone anyway. Yeah. I just have a reddish undertone. Don't be jealous. Yeah. I have a reddish undertone. So I always look like I'm bothered by something.

So I was afraid of going red. You always look like you're hot. I did put a little too much blush on. I was trying to be Gen Z. No, I love blush. Because we're filming the studio now. Wait, do we not? Does our generation not do blush? We do, but the Gen Zs know how to do it. They put it all on the side. I went hard with the blush today. I love blush. I think it makes a whole. If I have too much time to get ready, my makeup just becomes more and more insane. Yeah. Other stuff in front page news. Did you see that Law Roach video?

Like, stylist who... So, you know, I'm not that in on the fashion industry. I did not know who he was. And now that he's retired, now I'm all upset. I'm like, it's like that guy's funeral I went to who I didn't know. I was like, how am I going to live without him? But now he's on every podcast. But I feel like he wants to tell us something and he's trying to tell us. Like, I went on Twitter. I'm like, who is he talking about? Because he basically said he had a final horrible experience. Well, I think it was...

not to bring it full circle back to the Jonas's, but I think he had gotten into a fight with Priyanka because he was styling her and she, and he said something to her like, you're not the sample size. And so I can't do anything. So then she came out and was like, I felt so awful about myself. I wasn't sample size. So,

So like when girls are walking down the runway and stuff, they're in a size two or smaller. But they do that because models are that size. They're not mass producing it yet. They're not making it for like their stores yet. So they only make one size. Why can't they just make a sample size even a four? That's like so much healthier. Right. And...

like the girls walking down the runway, like then they could be a size four. Yeah. Like that, that's just like one sandwich. Gwyneth is like, absolutely.

Absolutely not. Like skip the bone broth one day a week and you can be informed. This reminds me of like when I interviewed Emily DiDonato on Burning in Hell. Yeah. She said they made her lose like five pounds before a shoot and she like didn't eat, got there, they took the photos and then they photoshopped her waist to be smaller and she's like then why the fuck did you make me not eat for a week? The modeling industry and that whole thing is so crazy and also I think people think models get paid like

like so much, unless you're the GGs of the world, you're really not. I want a documentary about the life of a model in New York City because I don't think unless you live here, you know how...

Rampant. Have you guys ever heard of model apartments? It's like 80 women who got shipped from foreign places who were scared and young. Some of them are underage. Yeah, and they're just living in an apartment on bunk beds together, paying $400 rent. There's probably a pimp involved. Yeah, basically the agencies. The agencies. And the agencies...

want to take a percentage of everything because they'll find a girl in a mall in Oklahoma City yeah like we're shipping you to New York City yeah this girl has no idea what's going on there we're gonna put you in an apartment with a bunch of girls your age yeah you're gonna be fine yeah and then you're just in the streets of New York City then you get hooked up with a promoter now he's paying you to come out to the clubs so any model you see at a club is be is paid to be there

Because she's not making money. Or might not even be paid to be there. Just gets her rent free. They don't want to be there. No. They don't want to like... But it makes the club look good. It makes you think like you're in an exclusive place. Oh my God, there's all these models. And then I'm over here. Like it's a whole illusion. That is so crazy. And I also... I just interviewed this plus size model, Ella Halikas, who... She went kind of viral because...

She was at this like after party and then they went to this place in Hollywood. And because her and her friend are plus size models, the bodyguard straight up was like, you're not allowed in. Yeah. And she was like, I was decked out. I was at this place with all these other celebrities because we all deserve to be there. And I was like, are you guys fucking kidding me right now? And also she's like dropped it gorgeous too. I know who you're, I think I know who you're talking about. That's how I first like saw her. But then she was telling me how for fashion week she would walk outside and

and that's where photographers take photos of models. And she'd be with her stylist, and people would take photos of her stylist, who happened to be skinny, and her stylist was like, no, no, no, she's the model. But because she's, like, plus size, they didn't want to take photos of her. Oh, my God. When she's like, Hannah, I was dripping in the best fashion. Yeah. But because, like, walking down the street, it's the question of, are you skinny or are you fashionable? Right. Or both. Right. Which can happen. And also, like,

doormen specifically in New York City New York City and LA that's a whole different breed of person what kind of person is it because I'm not familiar with that scene like I can remember being like when I first moved to New York City and like going to clubs and standing there and bouncers looking you up and down and you could be in a group of I remember like a horse no literally

No, literally. They like look at like what heel height you're at. They smell your hair. They're like fresh. And I can remember being with like four girlfriends and bouncers looking us up and down and then picking two of us to go in. And you're just like, wait, what? Well, my mom told me about like the Studio 54 days back in the day. And she has this iconic story where like it was impossible to get in. Like you had to be famous. And my mom was like gorgeous when she was younger and so were her friends.

but they were like not famous. They're just girls that came to New York City. And she goes, there was this huge line for Studio 54 and we like were in these cute dresses and she was like, we looked at each other and we're like, act like you're fucking famous. And they said they just walked to the front acting like really important and busy and gorgeous. And the guy just like opened the thing and let them in. But it's like,

It also... It's all a facade. It's a facade, but it also teaches you about confidence. Where it's like, if you believe that you're the fucking shit, that goes further than any outfit, any weight, anything. But yeah, the club scene in New York City is like, excuse me the fuck out. It's so crazy. I used to have a girlfriend that, yeah, she wasn't famous or anything, but the way she would walk up to a club, we'd immediately get in. And I would just stand behind her. It's an aura. Because I couldn't...

do that the thing is over time you want to become like friends with them and then they know who you are and it's easier but

But it's so stressful. But people like that high. People want to go to a place that's exclusive. Yes, people love exclusivity. But the exclusivity becomes like. Then you walk in the club and you're like, no one's here. You're like, honestly, the line was more lit. Like, I'm going to go back in the line. Everyone's smoking cigs, having a good time. Also, there's this excitement of like, what's it going to be like? Stuck in here with this 50-year-old man.

This is just the owner of the club jerking off in the corner. Literally. La Roche. He also said that he had one really bad experience dressing someone for the Grammys or the Vanity Fair after party. And he was like, I just can't do it anymore. Who do we think that is? I don't know. Someone apparently didn't make the carpet because something ripped. And I think he probably got blamed. Ooh.

And we don't know who that is. I think I'm the most upset just because Zendaya, for the past couple of years, has been like... Killing. Killing. And just like such a fashion icon and so wears things... And he's like, I still love Zendaya. And he styles her. I think she inherently has really great style, so I don't think anything will change. But a stylist job, like they are...

They do a lot of stuff. They can make or break someone's status in terms of fashion. For sure. And I do think he's going to stay in the fashion industry. But my thing is, if you're going to keep going on podcasts breadcrumbing, I'm like, fucking tell the tea. Tell the tea and tell the whole tea. Either give us nothing or give us it all. Go on Emrata and give the full tea. I think he might have just gone on Emrata. Yeah. Okay. I wanted to do...

some advice. Okay. If you're down. I'm down. Because some gigglers sent stuff in from before and I was weaving through it to find some of the best questions. What do you do when you see your ex with a new girl on Instagram but he still reaches out to catch up?

Internally laugh and just, oh, what a sad life he lives. Exactly. Yeah. There's nothing. You don't... You don't need to reach out to the girl. No. But you also give him nothing. I would just keep making jokes like, your girlfriend's so pretty. Yeah. Like, I would just be like, go talk to your girlfriend. Yeah. Leave me alone. Where's your girlfriend? Think about it. Where's your girlfriend? Yeah. You must have been meant to send this to your girlfriend. Yeah. Like...

He doesn't have any access to you anymore. And like that's his shit now. If she confronted me, I'd be like, yes, you need to control your man. He's an asshole. But like I knew that already. And you knew that. How to decenter men from your life but still try to date men? In your head. Just know that they're all gay. No, they are. They all are on the spectrum of being gay and they don't want to tell you.

When he wants to hang out with his friends, just let him for hours. I do have to say though, this question, it's been important to me because I really think that I found a guy who was good for me when I really started to do things that were in line with what I love to do. Yes. Like Des found me

When I was in the background of Nikki Glaser's Instagram story. Yeah, so I was doing me I was doing comedy He's a comedian like he found me while I was in alignment with what I love to do So I would argue by decentering men from your life. You will actually attract the more right men in your life every guy I've ever dated I've changed my whole personality, you know, it's not great and

You're fully a Southern belle right now. Full Southern belle. Remember when I dated Perry and I would like go to Pilates? Who was she? You know? So that is true. You would like go to Yankees games all the time. Like what am I doing here?

You ate healthy. You ate bone broth, I think, at one point. At some point. Remember that when he made me do that two-week diet? He was like, you're not eating carbs, sugar, or dairy. I was like, I want to go home now. What am I, Gwyneth? I live on love and light. So Hannah has to cough into my mouth. I'm not love and light.

What is your take on porn? We talk about porn a lot here. Are you okay with your man looking at it behind your back? If so, how? We have to rephrase this question. He's not looking at it behind your back. Everyone's looking at it. We're all looking at it. If you're not, look at it. Yeah. He's not cheating on you. He's just doing it in the bathroom. One thing Paige told me... You better have a moment. One thing Paige told me that really helped me out is like the way...

women look at porn is different than how straight men look at porn. Like I need a storyline. I need to know like, does she like him? Does she feel comfortable with him? Is he a good guy? Does he come from a good family? Where men, they don't even need to see a face. They just want to see a pussy lip and they come and they don't think twice. They don't know their names. He's not having an affair with these women. Do I like if like Des is,

Into like a blonde? No. That's triggering. But I... But you know, I don't even... I don't know. I don't look at it. I don't ask. I just assume he Googles girls that look like Hannah Burner on Pornhub. And then when he comes, he goes, oh, it's not the same as Hannah. Yeah, I've never had a problem with it because...

I feel like I'm in my home by myself sometimes and I like watch things. And I, and if he was like, I don't want you to watch porn. I'd be like, okay, get out of my apartment. Like, you know, so I've just never like what people do by themselves is

they, you need that. Like you need time by yourself to do those weird quirky things that you do by yourself. And if watching porn is one of them, like that doesn't mean he's texting other girls. Also potentially doing, being like, Oh, you're into that. What are you into? Maybe you're into a similar thing than he is. And you guys do more stuff together. But also again, we love decentering men from our life. I love having different hobbies.

Like you don't want to do all the things he's into. No. Let him do it with his friends. I love how we're starting like. Let him hang out with Diplo. I would love to be in a relationship. Me with like multiple men. Because like. Because they all bring something different. One of them's in a grumpy mood. Fine. Go fucking do whatever. I'm going to go talk to Harry. That's so much admin though. It is so much admin. Because.

Because thinking about how much just inherently being a woman, you help a man. Like even just by dating them. No, you really do just like help them. Yeah. Like how am I? I have to make seven boys turn into men. Yeah. That's like exhausting. I have to be the mother of all these men. No. Like.

no money in the world of babysitting fees. Yeah. Obviously you don't want to change someone like at their core. Like, no, you don't want to change their personality, but yeah, I'm going to change that. You don't like shut the cabinets after you take a glass out of it. Like be a human. I do still get upset if guys leave the seat up because I'm that bitch who will fall in. See, I've never fallen in.

No. In the middle of the night, you've never gone to pee and just dropped in. No, I've never dropped in. And I've also never gotten angry at the seat being up. Because then you have to touch it.

When you drop in and you feel the cold bowl. That's never happened to me. Oh, you'll never trust a man again? No, I've never had that happen. That's so crazy. A man suggested bowling at 2 p.m. on a Saturday for a first date. Is this a red flag? I don't think so at all. I actually think that's a green flag. I think it's fun, but I feel like he's trying too hard to be fun. Like, get to know me first before you decide you want to bowl with me. Also, I'm very competitive, so I don't like first dates being competitive because he'll be like, that girl's

Yeah, you'd be awful if you went on a first date and it was like a sport. I get really quiet and everyone's like, you good? And I'm like, no, I just. I'm too fancy to like want that to be my first date. But I think that's a great second date. So what would you say? I would go. Are you good at bowling because your fingers are so long?

It's actually, it's hard for them to get out of the holes. Because they're so deep in there. You know, like I have to hold it a different way than other people. It looks like you're just wearing a fancy ring. This is a cocktail ring. This is a cocktail ring.

I'm actually famously really bad at bowling And I only like to play sports that I win at So I will come up with any excuse I'll get COVID I'm kind of good at bowling But I like an activity date Like I also like a day date I think a day date is no pressure I love a day date And like you went and you did something fun It's not like the typical Let's go drink something I like this for a second date Because I want to first know that I like him enough For me to do an activity Yeah

like automatically gives laughter. Like you're gonna laugh at something. Yes. If, and if there's nothing, just the fact that you're both bowling, like that's funny. That's funny. Bowling is funny. Would you get the ick if a guy's bad at bowling? No, I think I'd get the ick if he was like phenomenal. If he did the, if he got on the bowling team. If his leg goes up afterward? No. Oh my God, I'll never orgasm again. Or if he like blows on his hand before he like. If he does a little stutter step, like. Like a twinkle toe. Twinkle toe.

That's giving me the heck. Him being bad, I'm into it. I'm like, what else are you bad at? Yeah, you're so naughty. You're just a little messy boy.

How have we made bowling sexual? People talking about how bowling is like, we all put our fingers into these holes and then we're all eating the same nachos. But like, I think that is how our immune systems stay strong. Yeah, it is. When people stop bowling, COVID blew up and it's not a coincidence. All kids have like, are allergic to peanut butter because they didn't just put them in school and slap peanut butter on all their sandwiches. I heard that like, people were,

keeping kids away from peanut butter for whatever reason and then there's like all these deathly allergies so you have to like put peanut butter in their diapers yeah i had lois my niece come i took some emirata content we're like i was like can i take a photo and they're like yeah and i was like putting around my hip yeah and you're like this is i did the whole dance and they were like she's not accessory this baby's so cute and perfect that it's like trickery like i kept looking at my mom like are all babies this good she's like no

And then I looked at Des and I'm like, our baby was going to be like spawn of Satan. Okay. Good in terms of what? Like Lois like went to sleep when she was supposed to. Like she didn't cry. She's the most beautiful, sweet baby. When you go to see her, she just starts smiling. And then she sits there and then she loves to jump. She smiles. She giggles. She likes to go on the swing. Never cries. Did it give you baby fever where you were like, I need one now? Not now. Yeah. Yeah.

But you enjoyed a bit of it. I've always loved kids and babies. But like, did I nap when she was napping? Yes. Did I fall asleep when she was awake? Yes. Was everyone's like, if Hannah was the mother, this baby would be motherless. Yes. Was I exhausted when she left? Yes. But did she think I was hilarious? Yeah, absolutely. I've never really gotten along with a baby. Yeah.

Wait, you would love Lois. I want to know if Lois would like me. Because usually when babies see me, they... Which makes me nervous. I'm like, do I have a bad aura? Babies will spot me and immediately be like, no. Look at you and just start puking. Yeah, just like crying. Like, don't put me in that lady's arms. I think you have that in your head, though. I don't know. Craig's seen it and he didn't love it. Honestly, I feel like I gave him the ick with it one time. He was like, that baby...

like really did i wanted nothing to do with you the dogs like you know it's a thing like okay this is a perfect example craig is getting his backyard like redone or whatever they're putting in like grass whatever

And the guy that's doing his backyard brings his dog every day. And the dog always runs into the garage and, like, says hi to Craig and, like, whatever. And I'm standing there, and the dog couldn't have whipped by me faster, as if I was a statue. Wanted nothing to do with me. I see it less that, like, you have bad aura. I think that you have spiritual witch aura. Yeah, the dog knew I didn't want to pet it because that dog was...

dirty smelly so it was almost like yep i know not to go to you yeah so you're like yeah maybe i put it out first with the baby stuff too where i'm like cry somewhere else yeah yeah but i do think with your own baby you're gonna be like you're like look how good she is at crying like you're gonna be obsessed with her and she probably cries and like i love that your baby has to be a sheet she only has to be a sheet yeah she's a shit oh my god you're a little gross boy

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Including his 92-year-old grandma. Bathing suit ideas, question mark. Oh, God. Okay, my... No, it's the worst. But, like, they can't get mad at you for wearing a bikini. I wouldn't bring out the thong.

No, but like all of our bikinis are basically thongs. So what is she going to do? Wear like a turtleneck bikini? I, okay. I had this exact thing happen to me and I actually was so stressed out about it because Craig was making me stressed out about it. And then I got to Mexico with his family and my luggage was canceled, was gone. So I could only get bathing suits in the whatever. Okay.

And so I said to his mom, like, I'm so sorry. Like, this is like so risque. And like my whole ass was out. Yeah. And she was like, we're in Mexico. You think I care? Yeah. Like the parents don't care as much as you think they will. Like Craig cared more. Every now and then. Like his parents might be upset. Do you ever now and then have an ad about experience with bikinis? Like every now and then I'm like, I love bikinis. And every now and then I'm like, we're wearing underwear right now.

My bikinis are less than my underwear. You wear granny panties. I do. Your bikinis are way more revealing. You literally just have to go on Amazon and get ones that are like a more full, like a cheeky butt. Full coverage. Yes. Yes.

But also then you're like, why are we making such a big deal? Like we all have nipples. Everyone's seen a nipple. Right. Except my bathing suits really are ass cheek, ass cheek. See, cause I have a fat ass. I can't, or it looks like a Cardi B music video. It's like an Anaconda video when I'm just like trying to like walk into the pool.

Gwyneth would never. Gwyneth would never. How to deal with getting ghosted. Like, do I speak up and say something or just let it go? No.

Never say anything. Yeah, never say anything. Wait a few months, then say something. Wait a few months, and then fuck his brother. Like, that's the only thing you say. Yeah, if you get ghosted, you kind of just have to accept it. Yeah, what do you want? You think he's going to be like, oh my god, my phone was in the river. I forgot to respond. I actually really do love you. Ghosting is actually so fucking loud. It's so loud. It's way more of a response than being like, hey, I just don't see it with the two of us.

I actually appreciate a ghost. I love a ghost. It's the Irish exit of relationships. Exactly. And I love it. I don't want to have an awkward interaction. Like it saves me years off my life of stress. If you're not talking to me and I'm in my bed, like going through every possible scenario of what's happening, like he works too much. Oh, maybe he has another girlfriend. Yeah.

Just say to yourself, he doesn't like me or he would have texted me. Also, if he's confused or on the fence and like not sure what to do, guess what? I'm not interested in that either. Yeah. I want the man who's like literally so ready to take me bowling. No, legit. Think of the

ghosting as like him doing you a favor now you don't have to also have an awkward conversation and the bottom line is still the same he doesn't like you also you don't know him yeah if you created unless if he's your husband and he's ghosting you and you have children with him then you should probably text him that's a problem then it's like hey where have you been because you've been at golf for three days um oh how do not constantly compare yourself to influencers even when you know it's not all real

That's hard. I mean, I do that all the time. Which I think is crazy that you do that. But you follow a lot of influencers, I feel like, because that's the content you're interested in and you like to consume. But it does take a toll on your mental health, I think, when your feed is only girls in Mexico. Yeah.

And my thing is I don't compare like my face or my body to them because that I definitely know is fake. Like that's... Oh, I thought you were going to be like because I'm definitely prettier. They should be compared.

to me. Because that's not a competition, honey. No, because I know that is definitely. Can you see FaceTune? Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. Like I know when something is edited, but I'm not going to get mad at it because that says that that person feels a little insecure about their body. And I think that humanizes that. Yes. Like I'm not, I'm not

But a lot of people can't tell the Facetune. Like I can't really tell Facetune. I more compare myself to influencers in terms of, damn, they're doing, they're producing a lot of content. They're really on top of their shit. They're getting a lot of brand deals. They're doing really well, like work wise. Yes. I feel like that's where I do my biggest comparison where I'm like, you're so lazy. Like do something else. Yes. But like in terms of body and clothes and like makeup, stuff like that. Go on TikTok. TikTok.

and press their TikTok videos and see if they have a personality. Right. Like if they're not making you laugh, you don't want to be there. Because you will forget on Instagram that like looks are such a small part of what a person is. And you'll go on someone's TikTok and you're like,

You take yourself so seriously and you're mean. And I don't like vibe with you. And then you don't fuck with it anymore. Also, most pretty people now, it's because they're rich. Like they bought their nose or they bought, they have hair extensions. But some of those people have good personalities because they're actually ugly people. Right. Yeah.

and that throws a wrench in the game but i do just say a lot of people are getting their shit dissolved i know did you see black china black china good as they should she's gorgeous there was also this doctor on tiktok that was like you haven't seen bella hadid out because she had so many surgeries and now like after a few years they kind of like fall apart like all the girls that had the like the

The fox eye. The fox eye thing. Like, they're fucked. Like, thing, you know, so. We don't know the long-term effects. Right. I heard Bella Deid is not drinking. She's been, like, five months sober or something. Wow, good for her. Yeah. I think sobriety is in for the winter. Wait, that is so, it's so in. It's so in. Sober curiosity. Look, being sober is a spectrum. But I also feel like it's our generation. I think we're tired. Yeah, we, like, we turned 30 and we were like, you want to know what's in?

Being sober. Everyone in their 20s is like, no, you're just old. Like, I thought that was... Yeah, we're like, it's cool to be 28 and sober. Yeah, because I thought that the other day, I was like, maybe I'll just, like, be fully sober. And then I'm like, no, I'm just tired.

like I still want to have a glass of wine when I want to have a glass of wine but like I don't want multiple drinks in the night they are saying though compared to like other decades this is the most girls are blacking out because like wine o'clock was never like a thing and we've normalized like let's watch Bravo and have seven glasses of wine so keep an eye out

for that there is nothing like getting wine drunk on your own couch though and knowing your bed is just up the stairs oh yeah just and then if the tears come you're just like why did you turn on him anyway guys thank you so much for giggling with us today um we have shows coming up we have very fun collections coming out that we're so excited about and we'll talk to you later bye