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I mean, the day just got away from me. What's up, my non-GMO gigglers? Oh, God. All natural. My organic gigglers. Holy crap. We have a lot to talk about. I feel like last episode went by so fast. And we didn't even get to it. And I didn't even know it was ending. We didn't even introduce ourselves and it was over. Yeah.

We've both had like wild weeks. Sometimes we're on our couch all week. Sometimes we're living life. Jet setting. I was out of bed 90% of the weekend. I was like, well, who am I? But you were like lying down in different places in the Bahamas. Yeah, I was lying down on like lawn chairs, beach chairs. Did you feel like you had a legit vacation in the Bahamas?

I kind of did, yeah. I mean, I did the most activities one could do. Hannah, I went golfing. How did they convince you to go golfing? I loved it. You loved it? I loved it. I actually was like, we should go golfing one day. I mean, we were hanging out with, like, the number one golfer in the world. So I was like, if you need any pointers, don't feel weird asking me. Like, it's totally fine. You were like, hey, I know you play golf, like, seven hours a day. But, like, would it be crazy to play golf today with me? Um, I...

For like we were at like a resort type place. So like you could go barefoot. So I really appreciated that. And you could wear bikinis. So I also doubly appreciated that. Well, I was. I want to take a lesson because I like the like technique. I like it. Yeah. I like it enough to want to learn how to do it. Wait, I'm so excited for you. Craig is probably like jizzing himself. Yeah, he was. I was like, wait, I drove the golf cart. You're just like a guy's girl now.

Literally love sports. I don't know, like girls are too much drama. I just want to like hit a golf ball.

And then I posted like a video and people were DMing me and they're like, your technique is awful. And I was like, give me a break. It's my first time. Okay. Everyone needs to stop because Paige is my protege. She's actually Dustin Johnson's protege. So it's going to take time, but then she's going to whip all your asses. Also, you're just, you have really good hand-eye coordination. People don't know that about you. People don't talk about it. People don't talk about it. People don't talk enough about it.

Like, I think you could have been a WNBA star in your next life or past life. Have you seen these palms? Yeah, you can palm a basketball. This is the size of a basketball. I actually saw the funniest TikTok of this girl being like me pretending I'm a golf ball. So my boyfriend will pay attention to me and it's her just rolling around in the bed. Like putting herself in a little fetal position, rolling around. And it was really funny.

It's so true. I get why they love it. There's like a bar cart. You can stop and have snacks. I was like, I didn't know there was like a snack situation. Golf is the most social, chill drinking sport you can have. Like what sport can you smoke a cigar during it? I literally had a tumbler and someone just kept filling it up with tequila. I didn't even it didn't even go. It didn't even get low enough for me to be like, I need another drink. It was just always full.

You guys didn't know that Giggly Squad is now a golf podcast. Yeah, we're a golf podcast. The thing with golf... Oh, what were you saying? I was going to say, in the winter, we are a ski podcast. Yes. But once Memorial Day hits, this is a golf podcast. Yes. And the thing with golf is... The problem is if guys play 18 holes, it takes like five hours to...

So that's why girls get annoyed. Like, oh, the boys weren't golfing, whatever. But also the girlies can go golfing and just get hammered. And that's fun too. It's about drinking. And people, people don't talk about that. You get drunk about it enough. You literally get drunk and you play better when you're drunk. Cause you're, you're looser. You don't get in your head. You don't overthink it. Yeah. And I was like, am I swinging my hips? Whatever. I'm two shots deep. Yeah.

How many shots am I in? Are you talking about the golf or the tequila? Do you have any, what is the golf aesthetic that you're going to wear this summer since you're going to be a golfer? I can already tell. I already bought a skirt, this like white, fully ruffled skirt. It's a dupe. I found it on Amazon. I'll post it on the Giggly Squad Instagram page because it's adorable. I think I put it in one of my Amazon lives, but it is like, she's golf, she's tennis, she's

She's country club. She's country club. Yes, you could do it either or because obviously we are a tennis podcast. You already knew that though, so we didn't have to say it. But I do... My new club aesthetic. Remember I used to actually go clubbing? It's a different kind of club now. Oh my God, she's elevating this shit, bitch. She's elevating. I do think though golf was hard for me though because if you're at a club...

You can't wear short shirts or skirts or shorts. So like it has to be like it's like Catholic school. Like they like sexualize the women in these golf clubs. Like I got reported once because I wore a tennis skirt at a country club. And like some member was like that it was too short. But like I was wearing a skort and like it was like a tennis skort.

Skirts don't come all the way down to your knees unless you're like... This was a skort. The one I have is a skort. It's so cute. Okay, we were playing like your partner was like your significant other and then like you would both hit and then we would play like best ball. So I did a lot of putting. Ooh, how's your short game? My short game's not bad.

I feel like I was good. Were you like reading the green? Could you tell if it was like left to right or right to left? Hannah, I got down on the ground one time and closed one eye. And then you took a nap. And then I was like, no, you're right. I am drunk. You're like, wait, it feels nice down here. My second, remember Des was catty daddy. Oh my God. I forgot about that name. Yeah.

time really flies when you're having fun because when you don't know a guy yet you give him a nickname yeah and once you start calling it by his real name that means you're for real also craig is doing his hair in the background and i'm now he's shaving he's like do you think i'm looking at this beauty process and i've started him with a skin routine last night we both had pimple cream on and i was like this is bonding there's no judgment here

How was your weekend? You were with OG housewives. Like OG, OG. It was wild. I don't even see them as housewives anymore. They're just my besties. Basically, I invited Luanne to the wedding and last minute she couldn't come. But she said, she was like, darling, I'm in England, but I'll take you out on the boat sometime as a wedding gift. And I said, thank you, Luanne. And she's like, of course, darling. Thank you.

And she's just like the coolest, like chillest. I just I'm obsessed with her. Yeah. And she's such a fucking badass. So she invites Des and I over. I was trying to invite Des' brother to like hook up with Luann, but he couldn't come. Wow. Imagine if you made a match like that. I don't know. I feel like she would like JWoww it like she would have sex with him and then bite his head off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Like he's 6'5", so I wanted to have fun with it, but he couldn't come, so that was disappointing. But we met with Luann. We get on her boat. This bitch, like no one else knows how to do anything on a boat. She's riding it like El Capitano. Like Luann is such a powerhouse bitch. And she's talking about like, yeah, my neighbor taught me how to ride. And we're going fast. Like at one point, I was scared. Do you know like the rules of the water? Yeah.

I don't know, but apparently Luann did. Yeah. She said she did. There's like a lot of them too. There's rules and there's cones. I don't know. She just knew what she was doing and it was really impressive. And like that bitch does not need a man. Do you know that in the South you don't need a boating license? But in the North, like you need a boating license because we're just...

you know educated but like the amount of drunk boating that must be going on in the south right well no rampant you can't be like you can still get like a dui on the boat but you don't need like a boating license like you can someone can just be like hey this is what you do and then you're like okay i'll do it and then that's legal don't you hate that i hate that

Because I should never be allowed to drive anything without tests. And that's why I don't have a driver's license. Correct. Because there's tests to protect society from me. And we're thankful for that. And we are thankful for that. I do believe that. So we actually were in Sag Harbor. If you don't know the Hamps, Sag Harbor is in the Hamptons. And we went across to Shelter Island. Mm-hmm.

right to a restaurant like you pull up to a restaurant oh is it that one um it's not sunset beach okay it's this place called salt which is kind of like a more chill vibe they have this thing called a shipwreck bar where they have an old boat that they turn into a bar it's just a great vibe they have music so jill zarin and her man gary who's hilarious yeah and ali shapiro

And her new boyfriend that she just hard launched on Instagram. Wow, we love a hard launch. We love a soft launch. We love any type of launch. I looked at them and I said, congrats on your hard launch. They appreciated that. And then Bossy Zarin, who's their Pomeranian. Bossy is its name? Her name is Bossy. Wow, I kind of love that.

I'm obsessed with her. She's not obsessed with me. She's actually not obsessed with anyone. Right. We all were like holding her. And then finally she somehow escaped and just went in the corner of the restaurant. It was like no one touched me. Oh, I saw that Instagram story. That was funny. She hates everyone. Yeah. She hates everyone. You're like when your social abilities just. Battery runs out. Yeah, one runs low. So I went on to have one run punch and blacked out.

Hannah one rum punch will black a girl out. I drink rum punches this weekend Isn't it like it's like the Long Island iced tea on vacation. Yeah, like does taste so good Okay, everyone was like you're not pina colada pina colada and I was like grow up Get a rum punch. I drank them all weekend Rum punches are my whiskey sours of vacation. I was about to say what happened Also, my friend said have you tried an amaretto sour? I

I don't think so. We have to try that next. I don't know if I like that because I feel like I've had desserts with amaretto in it and I don't like them.

But I'll give it a go. I'll give it another go. Do you remember how like a month ago you were like, I don't drink anymore. I don't like drinking. You guys, this podcast is about learning, growing and changing and realizing things. You're allowed to. Don't ever put us in a box. Yeah. Sometimes I'm sober. Sometimes I'm an alcoholic. Sometimes I love my skin routine. And sometimes I haven't washed my face in four days. Whatever. It's me right now. So I got wasted. And...

The vibe was just really good. We had my parents stop by. Allegedly. I was like, it's my mom and dad. It's my mom and dad. Do your parents drink? They like don't. They don't not drink. But like one drink and my dad is like being super silly. Like we just are not a. You're a silly family. We're silly. We're silly gooses. Yeah. We're silly nillies. Yeah.

But yeah, I was like drunker than other people for like a good 30 minutes. You know when you don't want to be as drunk as you are and you know you're on a different level? Yeah. But you can't stop drinking.

And you kind of have to like have an inner monologue. That's sometimes when you go to the bathroom and you're just like, okay. Get it? You like do all these weird things with your like face. You look in the mirror and you're just like, you open your eyes really wide. You like breathe in. You wash your hands. You like make it really cold, the water. So you're like, get your pulse going. You take a 20 minute nap. You just like figure it out. Okay. No, I was so drunk.

i'm i jill is like oh this is my man and i go bobby hannah lucy burner are you well no the second i did i go i say i go bobby the second i say it i realize that is not bobby oh rest in peace bobby what did everyone do

Ali was next to me and I immediately look at her and I go oh no and she starts dying laughing and she goes don't worry we accidentally call him Bobby all the time and I look at him Gary and I'm like I'm so sorry but Gary is like the silliest guy like he doesn't even care like he literally didn't care but like that could have been you're not invited to hang out with the Real Housewives anymore you're done you're done

I almost just got up and was like, Des, we have to leave. We have to go home. You know what? I'm going to excuse myself. There are so many times where I've done something in a group of people where I'm just like, I should be put away now. Someone escort me home.

Like that was a small claims court. I'm going to small claims court for that. Like I'm currently in small claims court. Seriously. You have like your trial is next week. I yelled it. But that's the problem when you try to be the funny friend is that you have to take risks sometimes. Yeah. And when you're a little drunk, you don't have the same wit. So you become stupid and you're taking stupid risks. And next thing you know, someone's going to get burned. Risk and reward, baby. That's that's and that's showbiz. Yeah.

But I do want to apologize to the Academy. I do need to apologize to the Academy, Jill Zarin, Ali Zarin, the whole Bravo community. Fuck it. I'll apologize to anyone and everyone here. I'll apologize to the Gigglers, of course. But yeah. Okay, so you had a good Memorial Day weekend.

And lastly, I do have to let you know, I woke up this morning and my wedding nails were still fully intact. But like so grown out. Something is happening. So grown out that like, you know, you like scratch your head. And your hair gets in. And your hair gets stuck in the nail. I hate that. I had a moment like I woke up, I was watching the French Open with Des. We're calm. And I started freaking out. I was like, if I don't get my nails off in two minutes, I'm going to lose my mind. So you picked them all off. So I start...

I cut them and then I pulled them off. I ripped them. But isn't that satisfying? So the family is not dead. The family was murdered. Yeah. You pulled all 10? I pulled them all off. They're dead. Wow. I know you feel good about this. I do. Because like we have a weird thing. We have a weird unspoken thing happening with like our nails. People... Yeah, like paid roots for me in all of my life except my nails. Yeah.

No literally if you have a nail break I'm like sucks How are yours? Thriving I mean I hate that for you Are those tips? Press on Oh that's fake no one cares Oh my god Hannah You're fake No one calls you out you're fake Two years ago you didn't even know What a fucking nail was I made you I made you

I can't wait to get off this and be like, what were you guys even fighting about? Nails. I created you. No, press-ons are dope. Press-ons are dope. No, they really are. But like, how did you do all vacation with press-ons? They would have been floating in the pool. I switched these last night. These are new. These are freshies. There would be like guacamole under every press-on for me. No, Hannah.

i took my old ones off and my one finger was like dyed orange and i was like what the fuck happened here and i'm like trying to think i'm trying to think and i'm like when like what would i have touched pizza sauce it must have gotten under my nail stayed there and dyed my nail orange and i was like this is what people don't talk about enough

long nails can be so gross like the bacteria under the nail it's probably worse than like a public bathroom no it actually they've like done studies about that and it actually is that's how covid was spread under long press-ons seriously and that i never but i don't have that thing with when i have like my real nails i never bit my nails i was just like not a habit i ever formed and

Yeah. So I never put my fingers in my mouth. You're like, I have other bad habits, but that was one that just missed me for whatever reason. Same. I was never a nail biter. Okay. We have to talk about Mormon mom TikTok. Let's get into it.

It's just it's it's just classic classic like it's this. OK, so if you don't know what Mormon mom TikTok is and I literally asked everybody on vacation this weekend, I was like, did you hear about Mormon mom TikTok? And everyone was like, stop talking, Paige. Like nobody even cared about the story. And I was like, well, I'm going to tell you all anyway.

I hate that for them. It's this group of young, like 20s to early 30s moms who are married. They all have children. They all live in the same community. They're all Mormon. And they all have perfect long, like Dyson Airwrap waved hair. They're all stunning. Gorgeous. For no reason. For no reason at all. Are these the best looking couples I've literally ever seen? Yeah.

So like a J. Crew ad. No, it literally is. It's a Mormon J. Crew ad. So technically they're not supposed to drink alcohol, caffeine, show any skin like really. And there are no pre-sex. And I and I do believe that they're only supposed to have sex with their husbands.

Yes. And yes. So it started to come out that and so they all would make TikToks together. Like they all had like family TikToks and the girls would all make TikToks together and whatever. Dancing. So the main girl, what's her name? Taylor. So the main girl came out and did this like TikTok live and was saying how her and her husband were getting a divorce. And the reason that they were getting a divorce was because actually the whole group of friends were swingers.

And that they were all swingers, but they never went to full sex. The rules were you didn't have sex with the other person's significant other. And whatever you did sexually with them, both couples had to be present. So she broke the rules, ended up having sex. But does that mean like make out? Like you're adults, like you stopped at a make out? Right. That's the thing. Or is that just blowjobs and anal? Yeah.

Right. Like Craig's in the background saying, well, they could watch each other. True. True. Yeah. Yeah. So they were watching each other, you know, I guess give blowjobs, whatever. Then. So she said that she went off with one of their husbands. It was against the rules. She had sex with them and it was in private. So they're getting divorced. So everyone's in an uproar over how just ironic this conversation is.

Then the other groups of moms said, this is so not true. And she's lying. She just made up that we're all swingers to make herself look better. And she just had a full on affair with this one husband. And every mom is like denying that it's their husband. So then Taylor literally looks at the camera and is like, all the moms are going to deny it. All of them will. But I do have text messages and receipts to prove everything.

I think she's telling the truth. I think they're absolutely all swingers. This is what happens when you get married at 22 and you pop out four kids and you have naturally wavy hair. When you wake up in the morning and it's a perfect, perfect way. You are automatically a swinger. You just look like mermaids in Utah. So then people were saying, I think this girl made it all up, not even to make herself look better with the divorce, but just like,

For publicity. I mean, it is crazy how this was such a like niche algorithm that like they would sometimes their dances would sometimes pop up on my TikTok. So like I knew who they were, but I didn't follow any of them. And I didn't like, yeah, no, I didn't like relate to them. But now you're like, wait, they're kind of fun. Now I know intricate details about their personal lives that I didn't need to know. But when she said they were swingers, I was like,

oh my god these Mormons are like actually like really fun. Like what is this undercover life they live? Because you can't put these like crazy rules on people and then like the human brain not want to test the boundaries. Yeah you can't put restrictions. It's just like telling kids they can't have candy when they're little and then they like they you put it on a pedestal. Something you can't have you put on a pedestal. You want it. You feel naughty. You feel rebellious. It feels good.

Um, apparently Utah mom talk Reddit was talking about how like her marriage was not doing well since she got famous on Instagram because she was like obsessed or TikTok. She was obsessed with, with TikTok, her social media presence, what she's going to film. Um,

And the husband wasn't supportive of it and didn't like it. So that was going downhill. I could see that. I could see that. But like, regardless if it's true or not, this girl basically was like, if I'm going down. You're all coming with me. You're all fucking coming with me, which is, um, it's an interesting way to go about it. And like, you've lost all your friends.

She's lost all of her friends. And also, here's the thing that I thought of immediately. Okay, she feels she wants all of them to go down with her. But like they all also have children. So like when she's telling the whole world that they're actually all swingers, all I could think of was the only people that are really getting hurt here are all of your kids.

Yeah. Because like, yeah. Imagine being like eight years old and like then realizing like, oh, my work, my parents are getting a divorce because my mom was sleeping with my best friend's dad. Like that's so fucking weird.

I also, I mean, they're like living their own reality show. I think there are conspiracy theories that Andy Cohen does listen to Giggly Squad for multiple reasons. And Andy, if you're listening. Well, it's why he named his daughter Lucy. Exactly. Right. Taylor needs to go on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. A thousand percent. Like, it's just, it keeps it young. She's. What do they hold? Give her an icicle. What do they hold?

what do they have yeah a snow cone a snow cone she deserves that snow cone she she's earned that snow cone that was the messiest shit i've seen in a long time whether it's true or not it's equally messy here's the other thing if you're so good if you're getting married at like 23 yeah like

You want to see what the world's about. Like, I feel like you... You want to see another pee-pee. How do you really know what's going on if you haven't experienced sleeping with multiple people?

I want to know how the swinging started. If this alleged swinging is a thing, like they're all hanging out and they're like, hey, we're all like really good looking. So the story like just kiss the right. The the alleged way it started was that the main girl, Taylor, and her best friend's husband liked each other. And so they started it and they would like text each other like pictures. Wouldn't it be crazy?

If we like made out Yeah And then They just really wanted To fuck each other Right And then they told Their significant others Like hey Why don't we try this So they tried it And then Taylor's husband And the other guy's wife Was like We tried it It's not for us We don't really like it But that Taylor And the husband Like kept doing it

Now that you're talking to me about the details, I feel like it's true. And she was not about to be like... She didn't want to just be boring like, yeah, we're getting divorced. It's not working out. She's like, I want to go out with a bang. Right. Like she could have kept this. Here's the thing. This is like a straight up cult. There's nothing else that you could describe this as other than a cult. And I feel like she just did like the number one thing. Like she could have said, we're getting a divorce. We...

We just aren't agreeing on certain things. We're growing in different ways. And people would have been like, oh, that's so sad. And then like she could have lived her life as a single. It's probably looked down upon in Mormon culture to get a divorce. Oh my God. I don't know about making that up. So she's probably like, if you guys are going to look down upon me, here's a mirror to yourselves. Right. But then like the other girls are...

Like they're like getting their husband in the back and being like, tell them we're not swinging. Yeah. Tell them we're not. And he's like, that's crazy. We're not swingers. But they used to like post videos and the captions would be like it would be like two couples and they'd be like, are we swingers? And they would joke about it. So that's the thing. They joke about it all the time. Where there's smoke, there's fire. When there's smoke, there's fire.

I just think that Bravo should take advantage of some more TikTok drama. Should we do my bachelorette party in Utah? All fake fur. Just all fake fur and diamonds. I'm down. And then someone randomly gets arrested during it for fun. It seems like it's a wild place. Yeah. Well, I think any place that's that cold is wild because you have to drink as a liquid layer to stay warm.

But I do think we've talked about Mormonism, that the culture is intense. And when people break out of it, it can be hostile and crazy. And I'm in for it. As someone who slept through the entire play of Book of Mormon, I feel like I am an expert on Mormonism. I mean, it is just like a wild, they have wild rules. They believe wild things. This guy basically like made, like,

This guy basically said that he found a book and that he was the only one that could read the book and gave like all these rules and then everyone just believed him. I watched a documentary on it and basically they were like there was some discrepancy about a white salamander. They were like this white salamander came and then they found out that there wasn't a white salamander or something and everyone got really upset and they were like well can we still believe everything and basically

They were trying to like murder the people who were discovering these old books that were explaining like opposite things to what people were told. I don't fucking know. Look, religion is a lot like what's it called when you like play that game with the telephone? Telephone? Nailed it. It's a lot like telephone. No, yeah. Someone said something and then over hundreds of years...

And also, a lot of rules were made based on a whole different culture that things were back then. Right. So I don't even know how you make certain... Like, what about CBD? Can they do CBD? Right. Oh, my God. They didn't have that technology back then. But there are, like, some Mormons that don't go by all the rules. Like, I'm pretty sure, like, the women in this whole, like, group, like, they drank. Like, they drank alcohol. They, like, drank coffee. You're, like, not supposed to drink caffeine. Like...

They obviously partied or else you wouldn't be, like, trying to have sex with your friend's husband. But there's wild stories. Like, the BYU basketball team, one of the players got caught having sex with his girlfriend and, like, got kicked out of the school. Stop it. Yeah, like, it's serious. They...

It's fucking serious. But that's why this girl like I have mixed emotions about her because she's going rogue and hurting people, which I hate. But then part of me is like, you know, you know, rebellious bitch. Yeah, there's almost part of me that's like I kind of agree with her where it's like, look, we were all doing this stuff, trying to act like you didn't know what was going on.

And like, but the problem is what, how much do you use? It's ironic that we're talking about it as people on reality TV in the day, but like how much of your life do you use to entertain other people? Right. And like at the end of the day, like you're just, okay, so now you've not only fucked your best friend's husband, but now you're also going to like, like shame her and drag her down. Like, and tell her she's lying to like the whole world. Like how much can this poor girl take?

You've just blown up her entire life. This is why people should not have this much access to speak to so many people. It's not right. It's not right. It's not normal. We shouldn't see that so many people could talk about something at a time. But I am just like interested in the swinging community. I would like a documentary about swinging communities.

I feel like we could find that. Is Craig listening to this? What does Craig think about swinging? Craig, what are your thoughts on swingers? He loves that. It's that time of the year. Your vacation is coming up. You can already hear the beach waves, feel the warm breeze, relax, and think about...

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I don't think it will. It's about porn. That's okay. I'm not Mormon. Hit me with that. If you watch porn with a guy, do you ever get jealous that he gets turned on by watching the girl? No, I don't. Because...

I see it as like she's not real. I see it as like a movie character almost. It would almost be like if I if we're watching a movie and Margot Robbie's in it and Craig says, oh, my God, she's so pretty. Yeah, I agree because we're not meeting her. She's not walking in the room in 10 minutes. Yeah. So I feel the same way when it comes to that. Like we don't know that girl. Oh, my God. OK, that was a really good answer. That was a really good. Thank you. It's true. Yeah. Do you ever get jealous?

I've never watched it with Des. We did once and we started just like laughing. Like he started making fun of it, like the acting and we started laughing and then he was like, pick what you like. But then I felt super like, I can't do that. That's too much. And then I was like, pick what you like. But then I was like, I don't want to see what he likes. I'm going to get jealous of what he likes.

Once you get like over that hump, it's like a very different situation. And it's also a specific. Oh, my God. Look at me giving you sex education. How the tables have turned. You married bitch.

Are the turntables have? Yes. Turned. There's like a specific time when you have, when you can introduce it that you won't do the laughing thing and it won't be like awkward. You have to be like mid, like. Yes.

already doing something and be like already in yeah yeah we once were like should we do this we were in like a goofy mood and it we couldn't yeah we actually failed and it felt bad yeah you can't be in like a silly goofy mood because then it's like this is weird because you're also seeing it through his lens and laughing and yeah i felt too much pressure you have to feel free some i

one of my, um, and then there's some storylines that are just so wild that you're like, that would never happen. Yeah. Or you just start like laughing at how someone's speaking or things they're saying. One of my lesbian friends, they're a couple and they love watching like a straight couple have sex. They're just like obsessed with this one couple. Yeah. And like, so you can find maybe a niche that you guys both like as just each other, like your thing. Yeah. Oh God. Look at us. Um,

I wonder how many people went in search of like Mormon couples. Actually, I thought this would be a great porno. All these girls just like swinging. Coming over and they're like supposed to be going to like church. And then they don't. In their cute little like live, laugh, love, blessed. Sundress. They're fucking on a blessed pillow. Family is everything. This house is a home.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Are we porn producers? Okay. Shifting. We're getting to a new topic. I read something wild about Anna Wintour.

Do you know those articles that are like, what does a person eat in a day? Like what does a celebrity eat in a day? Yeah. And like some people argue that it's pretty like toxic. It's like, cause people always obviously do their like most healthy day. And sometimes you're like, Oh my God, that girl doesn't eat anything. Is that what I have to eat to look like that? It's pretty toxic. But then Anna Wintour came out and people said she had a $77 lunch. She ate every single day.

And it was steak with a caprese salad without tomato or basil. Sushi and mozzarella cheese. But she would order it like that. But she basically was eating steak and mozzarella every day for lunch. And I kind of respect her more than ever now. I... Okay, the only thing that I understand is, like, you know when you get moods and you want to eat the same thing every single day? Like, recently I was just on a toast and jelly kick, which I highly recommend. Yep.

um so i get the lunch thing but also we have to remember she's european so i feel like europeans actually like they don't look at food as like this is healthy let me eat it they just eat like better quality yeah and food so like her having a steak every day you know like i i respect that

Yeah. And I feel like Europeans were mass stereotyping, but they're better at like stopping when they're full, where Americans are like, give me the extra large, give me the gulp and I'll eat it all. Yeah. Cause their portions are so different. Yes. When Des's Irish friends came,

They ordered like a like large coffees at Dunkin Donuts. You know how big a large coffee is at Dunkin Donuts? Yeah. Bigger than your head. And they were laughing so hard because like to them a large coffee is just like larger, a little larger than a medium. And Dunkin Donuts gave them like they were swimming in it. It was hilarious. You can't even like fit it in your cup holder. No, you can't. You're like, what is the point of this?

In New York, they made it illegal to do like the XL of like sodas for a while. The big gulps. Yeah, the big gulps. So, but also that, isn't that like that kind of diet where they only eat meat and cheese? Oh, keto? I guess.

There was this like years ago. I think we were in, I think I was like a freshman in college when Prince Harry and Prince William, no, sorry, when Prince William and Kate were getting married. And one of my girlfriends was like, I'm going to do the diet that Kate Middleton is doing. And I was like, what is it? And she was like,

all this bitch ate for like seven straight days was steak and that's it like she only ate steak it was called like the duken diet i think she had like something else with it like kate did but she literally started mooing by the end of it like it was only beef

And she lost weight, though. She did, like, look great. I feel like everyone's body is different. And, like, you have to go with what feels right with your body. But that is some wild shit. But I feel like I could thrive on that diet.

I'm also like such a rebellious person. So even if it's myself making the rules, I want to rebel against myself. So if I'm like I'm going on a diet, I'm eating healthy. I'll like 15 minutes later, we'll be like, fuck that. Oh, for sure. Before my wedding. It's so toxic. The whole like shedding for the wedding shit. So I did. Yeah, there was a brand that had like very healthy pre-made meals that I bought.

Yeah. And I tasted one of them and I threw it away and it was a thousand dollars for this week of food. Threw it away and continued to just order Chinese takeout. Um, and it, I felt great during it cause it was, it's not like it was bad. Like it tasted shit. Yeah. You just sounded like British. Yeah. Shit. Shit. Isn't it? You sound like you're on love, love Island. Like it was like factor 50. Yeah.

Okay, speaking of eating, what do you think about Kim and all the Beyond Burger beef? No pun intended. Okay. Where were you when you saw the commercial? It's so fucking true.

I thought she, because she's now dating Pete Davidson, I thought she's like trying to get more into the comedy world. I thought it was a fucking joke. I thought she was doing a spoof commercial. I was like, where's like the punchline? Like, I don't like, what is this video? I don't, I get brands wanting to get like the number one A-list person that is going to like bring in the most revenue. I get it.

It makes zero sense. Is she a vegetarian? I think she posted like one vegan taco recipe on her Instagram and they were like, that's what they said. Like she posted a vegan taco recipe, which is like a quesadilla. Like, I don't know. That's vegan. I mean, no, it's not vegan. She also like didn't know. And I feel like she is very talented when it comes to being like a spokesperson for something. Yes. But something that makes sense. Like,

Makeup, hair, clothing. Like where the fuck does this come into play? So the PR TikTok girl boss town who we love, who went to our show in Boston, had a really good pitch. She was like, it should have started with like her eating the burger and talking to someone being like, this is beyond me.

And show that it was on TV and how everyone watched it. And then everyone starts going, this is beyond. You see a model walking and people go, that's beyond. And everyone starts going, that's beyond, that's beyond. And then it goes back to her being like, yeah, Beyond Burger. Wouldn't that have been sick? Brilliant. Beyond brilliant idea. Girlboss Town is a literal genius. Every time I think, oh, she's not going to think of a good idea for this one, she nails it. She nails it. I mean, because whatever they did just now was...

Beyond dumb. But would you argue we're talking about it? Okay, so when it showed her with no, like, bite mark, do you think they, like, just kept that in to be like, maybe people will see it? Like, we're all being played with? Like, they knew people would see it? No, I don't think they're that calculating. Like...

I think it was just like a mistake. But that mistake of her not actually biting into the burger. So guys, she's like, and she's like chewing, but then the burger has no bite mark on it. Like it's half a burger with not even a sniff, not even a nibble, not even a lick.

and it got but then like the whole campaign is now everywhere people are just replaying it because they're showing that so because it's so ironic yeah i feel like brands are like if we can afford kim kardashian let's get her because then we don't have to do anything yeah it's like let's not do shit but the beyond thing because you know like everyone well bible never became a thing did you ever say bible

No. Yeah. But it's like, it was like a thing on their show. Yeah. But here's, okay. Here's the difference. When Paris Hilton was like, that's hot. Everyone said it. Yep. Like, or like loves it. That is beyond like, that would work. I could see us saying that would work.

Let's start saying it. Because obviously they don't really give a shit. Because Beyond could work with anything. In the same podcast that we were like, we're only eating steak forever. It is crazy. All the like they make the meat actually have like oil in it. Like it looks like there's fat coming out of it. Like it's wild. Some of these burgers. I will say I have had that burger like multiple times. If it's ever on a menu, I do get it a lot.

My mom's always like, why would you get that? Like, and cause she just like, can't understand. Yeah. It's not okay. I literally could be eating a sandal. Like as far as she's concerned, they're like, are you okay? Yeah. Like what's going on?

But I do think it's really good I haven't had like other things Does it taste like meat or is it like one of those Yes No it does Because veggie burgers used to just taste like beans kind of Like oh it's a bean burger Right

I also have always loved veggie burgers. I did do a TikTok about it, though, because she said she's the chief taste correspondent. And I did not realize that that was a job. And now I'm ready to quit all my jobs to to and all my taste buds are fucking ready to be at least an assistant taste correspondent for someone. Because my I'm good. I've been tasting for years. Yeah.

some might say right out of the womb you've been tasting i've been tasting do you feel like in new york especially people just make up job titles yeah i think like if i hear one more guy be like i'm the cmo and i'm like what does that mean it's because new york is so much of the finance guys that they don't know what they do they don't know what they do so you fuck around spreadsheets

Like, stop saying you're a financial analyst. You fuck around. But then I feel like in L.A., they give you, like, 100 titles. They're like, you know, I'm a screenwriter, you know, actor, musician, model. Just creativity. Waiter. It just, like, surrounds me. It all means waiter. They, like, wrote a screenplay once in second grade, and they're like, screenwriter. But I do... And then Kim also...

like posted another like super filtered photo of her and pete i feel like she which one the one of them like walking in some like the devil ears like it look like oh some people are saying it's too much like every day are you having any like tiring feelings about the kardashian press

I'm not tired of Pete and Kim yet, but I do have a bone to pick with the matching hair. Oh, are they both blonde right now? They're both blonde right now. And I don't know how much I love that. Because it's either like Megan Fox and MGK, they're over there drinking each other's blood or...

Courtney and Travis are like just straight up having sex like in the public. And then there's Kim and Pete and they're like, what can we do to differentiate ourselves? And they're like, how about twins? Like you feel like it's always a press play. Yeah, I just I don't.

I don't know if I love it. I also like think about it in like the real world. Like, okay, they're A-list celebrities. They can do whatever they want. If like we live our real lives and you have your real husband over there and I have my real boyfriend over here. If one of them came to us and said, hey, babe,

what do you think about like you dying your hair platinum blonde me shaving my head and also doing it no you'd be like what drugs are you on yeah or like if you came up to me and you're like look at me and craig we both went red i'd be like okay we need to have a talk like pages losing it yeah you're like what's going on like what are you guys missing from your sex life or like you're missing something that you're overcompensating for

You're like, I know some Mormon girls. Should we... Shouldn't I introduce you? Something's going on. No, you're right. Like, in real world, it's fucking weird and your friends would talk about you. You'd be like, did you see Hannah dyed her hair gray like that? I mean, you can't... Like, in the real world, you can't even post, like, an Instagram picture without people being like, she edited that. You know? Like, it's not...

You can't go out here and like shave your head and dye it together. Like people would be concerned. Also, Kim doesn't drink, which she never talks about. She never talks about it. Does he? I don't know. She doesn't. She never talks about it because it's not like a – it's like purely based on taste.

She's like, I just don't like it. Really? But I also think it's great for her career. I do think people, there's a lot of sober curious people. And this summer, ladies, I know we were talking about alcohol all the time, but I was drinking Luann's Fosé, her fake rosé.

It's made with like hibiscus and like oak flower. And I don't even know what that is. But like it tastes very like botanical and it tastes really nice. I was like drinking that in between champagne and rum punches. So like basically your girl was lit. Champagne will really fuck you up. Maybe that's I had one champagne and that's what it was. That's what it was. Yeah, that's what it was. It was the champagne like in front of my parents. I was like, mommy, I love you.

She was like, you know who else doesn't drink, but it's not like they're sober. They just like don't love it is JLo. Oh, yeah. She will only drink. She said that she'll like have a glass of champagne if she's celebrating something. Other than that, she like doesn't really care about it.

I appreciate that lifestyle. I do because you're more productive and you have to face yourself. Whenever I say I'm going to be like that is like the next day I get the drunkest I've ever been.

just ah damn me rebelling against myself again that was like me last episode with like cleaning after myself i actually had an epiphany in therapy about it because i was talking about how i'm rebellious with like just myself and it's like you're just hurting yourself and i yeah i realize like you just have to have a real talk with yourself to be like you don't have to fight like the demons from the past your childhood stuff like

It actually is you're helping yourself by cleaning. Like, who are you fighting? Like your coach who was yelling at you when you were 12? Like, it obviously takes time to heal. But I kind of like just changed perspective that like once I realized it was a rebellious tactic, I'm like, oh, but you're you're hurting yourself. Once you realize it's just you versus you, then I feel like you can like have a nice talk with yourself and be empathetic.

Well, we're also both similar in that like we're the hardest on ourselves. Like if there's the biggest like person in our life that like brings us down, it's us. It's ourselves. So that's like when we get trolled on Instagram or something. I'm like, I already thought of that. I already said that to myself two months ago. Yeah.

I beat you to it. Oh, let's come up with something new. That's so last year. I've been hating myself about that. Okay. So please. No, you're so right. Yeah. Whenever people or even like coaches in my past would criticize me, I'm like, no shit. I didn't do that on purpose. And obviously I hate myself for it already. And you could just like pile on, but like I'm ahead of you. So yeah, like we already know. We already know. So I think it's coming to the point that like,

realizing you're going full circle to the mormon tiktok is she just rebelling but ultimately hurting herself i think we should end every podcast with a question like it's a dateline we'll be back next week to discuss um all your answers and thank you for your feedback that is so dateline oh

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She was younger for us. Like she was popular with like Disney Channel younger girls. How crazy though. It's weird to see people that are famous at the same time and the trajectory in which their careers go. Like she was on a show with Zendaya. Look at Zendaya. You're so right. So I think that has a lot to do with like the team you have. Yeah. And also the talent you have.

Right. That's well, that's true, too. I mean, to an extent, there's a lot of the team like the little decisions and there's right. There's no right or wrong. You just kind of see where things take you. But my son was her ex and I was kind of like, who is this like older guy with crazy hair? He was just in the movie that Machine Gun Kelly did that people said was not funny or good. But like whatever, I haven't watched it. Maybe it is.

I think everyone's trying to make Machine Gun Kelly something he's not. Like, he's not an actor. Get out of here. Yeah, they, like, want him to be...

Brad Pitt and he's not. Yeah, I just want him to be the person that like has sex with Megan Fox and that's all I want from him. I literally don't want anything else from him. Just like keep sucking her blood. Like I don't, there's nothing else I want. Just keep getting manicures and holding her bag for her on red carpets and try not to annoy her. Just like try. Yeah, like put her in every music video and then I'll listen to the song and like other than that, I don't really care about you. So anyway, Mads. Yeah.

Paige is like, I don't want to talk about this. Long story short, Ma's son just married Avril Lavigne. Wait. Yeah. So like, I'm confused. I'm hurt. I'm bamboozled. Do you believe the Avril Lavigne conspiracy theory that that's a stunt double and the real Avril Lavigne died? I don't believe it, but I do see how it makes sense. I see how it makes sense because I'm like, you're here. Why aren't you singing? What's wrong? What?

I mean, right. Like, what are you doing? Like, what's where are you? What do you like? She doesn't even do interviews because everyone's like, well, because her voice is different. She can't. She's not going to sing because she actually doesn't have that voice that Avril had. I look sometimes I get into conspiracy mode.

And I believe every conspiracy theory people ever tell me. Yeah. Remember when I was on that moon one for a while where I was like, we didn't go to the moon. I'm on the Avril one recently because it keeps coming up on my TikTok. And I believe it. Have you heard about the one that Lea Michele can't read? I'm going to firmly stand against that because we DM all the time and she reads. You DM Lea Michele? Yeah. Do you want to know what she DMed me saying? What?

hey where do you get your spray tans in new york city and i've never been more starstruck in my life and i said if there's one thing i know it's shut up wait that's amazing well maybe but i was like oh my god i'm obsessed with you but i know you're like biased and you're because you're friends with her but like maybe she has an assistant doing that i don't know there's no there's a conspiracy theory that she went on watch what happens live and like couldn't read the card or something

wow maybe she just gets really nervous look i can't do math under pressure so i can't do anything do that multiplication i'm like i will fold like a cheap beach chair under any sort of pressure um oh my god wait this i love conspiracy oh my god we're like a new conspiracy podcast i'm obsessed with us yeah do you have any other ones i feel like craig might have a lot do you have any favorite conspiracy theories craig

He says he has a lot. He doesn't have the time. He doesn't have the time. You got to prep him before that. Oh, my God. I have so many good documentaries that I've been watching, but I'm just going to talk on one and we'll hit him more next time because we're running out of time. There's this thing called The Deep End on Hulu right now. Are you familiar with Teal Swan?

No. If you are on self-help TikTok at all, which I assume you are, you've seen her pop up. You're depressed, right? You're on self-help TikTok. I mean, everyone loves a little self-help, but she has like blue eyes and like dark black hair. She's really beautiful. And she has these clips just like talking about life and they're really good. But they're doing this documentary about her basically being like, is this a cult? And she basically said, come in and film me like reality TV online.

I'm cool with it because I know I'm not a cult. But then they're also asking other people about stuff and getting interviews. And they're like, this is like fully an unsafe cult. And I feel like if you have to say you're not a cult, you're a cult. It's like if you have to tell people you're not drunk, you're drunk. You're drunk. Like we, we,

Say this is a cult Yeah we own it And we know it Cause people have asked us and then we realize well if people are asking Then it's a thing

But so this Teal Swan documentary, The Deep End on Hulu is very interesting because she's like a little psychic. She talks to people from the past and she's very upfront with people. She does things kind of differently and she's just like, I want to help people. But she also is like, I want to take over and I need money. So it's this weird thing of like, what is the difference between a business, a cult and self-help? Oh God. So I'm scared. I'm not okay. Yeah.

Is it like multiple parts? Is it a one part thing? So it's coming out weekly and there's two episodes now so it's the perfect time to dive into the deep end guys sponsored by Hannah Berner What's it called? The deep end Also I have a highlight on my Instagram you guys with a bunch of the dope docs we've talked about

Did you see the girl that made like an aesthetically pleasing notebook page? That was gorgeous. It's so incredible. Someone drew the list in like a beautiful way because I'm like, we would never do that. Like admin and details. I'm like, I would rebel. I have one quick story before we end. And it's the perfect way to end. My mom and I went to L.A. last week. My mom...

She hates traveling. And she was like complaining about all these different things. And I go, mom, why do you think Hannah hates admin? Like this is, and she goes, I get it. I get it. This is awful. Admin is my nightmare.

No she was like so do we print the boarding pass why do they keep asking if everyone has it on their phone like she just tagging her own bag. You're like Kim if you want to be a jet setter you have to chill out. She's like why would I tag my own bag when I'm bringing it up to them anyway like she was so confused at every time. Kim we're working towards private jet but we're not there yet okay. She thinks TSA pre is a cult. TSA pre is a fucking cult. That person.

It's a fucking cult. You have to pay to get in. It's what? Just so you could take your shoes off? I've been using... What's the other cult? Clear. Clear. I fuck with the clear cult. I use both. So I'm like a full... I'm Mormon now. And with that said, thank you for giggling with us. We love you guys so much. And we will talk to you later.