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Do you know that this year, we're coming up on five years. I know, isn't that amazing? Is that right? So then how many episodes is that? We've been doing one week for five years. We're going to be 250 episodes in, I don't know. And 25 is the silver, 50 is the gold. Is there anything for 250? Is that triple silver? What is it? Centennial? Wait, guys, this is our 250th episode. Oh.
Also known as... Come on. ...doecentocinquantesimo! Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Welcome, guys. So nice to be here. Oh, you came from the back of the theater. Yeah, I came. I finally made it my way to the front. Nice to see you guys. Look at you guys. Anyway, hey, listen. Do you mind if I drop some beats on you? Would that be okay? Let me tell you something about... Just close your eyes, okay? Okay.
Now, imagine, imagine Italian Riviera, 1982, white Ferrari Mondial, screaming down the Autostrada. You have a Cenzano with ice. Okay, now you feel me the vibe, huh?
Listen, let me ask you something. When you're making a podcast, everybody wants to know, what's that old-fashioned recipe? But one thing, one favor, testa ligara, spitato, what I'm trying to say is,
If you want to do one thing in this year, get Smartless 250.
Shawnee, how have you been? It's been a minute. My nephew and his girlfriend and three friends are visiting in town this weekend, which is super fun. Wait, are we going to see them tonight? No. I know. I think it's too many people. Right. You're not going to go? Am I going to see you tonight? No. What? I know. It's going to be bad. But, you know, I don't get to see my nephew and everybody. Right.
Yeah. And I feel bad. You saw them last night, right? Why don't you come over here afterwards? That'll never happen. Oh, yeah, that'll happen. Hey, yeah, why don't you come over there afterwards? Right around 8.30 or something, drive across the city and spend another two hours? This will happen for sure. Yeah.
But last night, I took him to Koi, right, last night? Sure you did. Oh, yeah. Your favorite seafood restaurant. It was so good. And I was walking back to the car and there was a pothole that I thought was just like a surface-
like a puddle and it was a massive pothole and I completely twisted my ankle. It was so fucking painful. Look at that. Is it all swollen? Yeah. Let's see. Come here, boobins. You can't see it. It's huge. No, I can see that. You iced it. This is going to heal fast, right? Like I freaked out last night. Probably not. It'll probably heal the wrong way and you'll be clubbed. Do you know the term clubfoot? Dead foot. Well, but...
Fortunately, it's not going to take anything away from your life. Usually it means that you can't be playing basketball or doing all the jogging and all that stuff. Luckily, you don't do any of it. Yeah, that's true. Is that what you're getting at, Jason? Yeah, you'll still be able to shuffle into chin-chin for lunch and koi for dinner. Shuffle. What if you go to the doctor and you're like, will this affect my ability to watch TV all day? Yeah.
Well, no, I just prop it up on the couch. That's what I've been doing. Will I still be able to chop celery into my egg salad? No, tuna salad. Will I have to cut my sloppy joe intake? No.
You know what though? Here's the deal. They went to the tar pits, you know, the La Brea tar pits near the museum. They being your nephew? My nephew and girlfriend and their friends. Is that still a tourist attraction here? It is. They'd never been. And they bought crickets. They bought a bag of crickets and they ate them.
sour cream and onion crickets and they pull them out what does that have to do with the what okay go ahead because they're saying the dinosaurs used to eat crickets back in the tar pit days why they sell that no no no they sell them in the gift shop they sell them in the gift shop why i have no idea museum yes and they pull them you want one i'm like i'm not gonna eat a cricket oh god why not last time i heard crickets was good night oscar it was right after the curtain went down
He's on fire today. He's en fuego. Who would do the worst at some sort of like outdoor survivor type of show where you got to eat bugs and stuff like that? No, but I think I might do even worse. Well, you would call your lawyer and say, am I obligated to eat this?
Imagine if we took the word obligation out of your vocabulary. You weren't allowed to use obligation. Yeah, I need a new shtick.
I'm sick of my own fucking voice. I'm going to be silent today. We love your voice. I miss both you guys a lot. I know. I haven't seen you. I'm so bummed I'm not going tonight. I've been in New York and I've been with lots of friends and lots of people and obviously with Bradley, but I really miss you guys a lot. I know. Likewise. I'm so jealous. I can't see you. Anyway, here we go. Speaking of can't wait to see people, I can't wait for you to see our guest today. Oh, God.
great opening this person is someone we all thank you thank you uh she's someone we all know well so much so i'm not sure what i can say about her that won't give it away
But she's a prolific comedian. She's an author, super producer, really great director. She played Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz when she was 10. And more recently, I think she played Elphaba in the movie Wicked. I don't know. A Boston, she didn't. A Boston native, her summer job was working at an ice cream parlor where she'd sing Happy Birthday with kazoos. Amy Poehler.
Today, she's a comedic force in Hollywood, hilarious colleague, and the world's favorite cool mom to Regina George is our ridiculously funny friend, Amy Poehler. No way. Wait, truly? Well, well, well. I've learned about it, I guess so. Well, well, well. Wait a second. Holy shit. Well, well, well. Wait a second.
First of all, how many levels am I insulted? I know. Of course, my first question is, did you know about this? No. Okay, good. I love it. Not a glimpse of recognition on Will's face when you said all of those things. There's no way that I thought, well, I knew that you worked at Brigham's, but I didn't in Boston. Chadwick's, Will. Oh, Chadwick's. No, sorry. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
But we went to Brigham's with your dad, and he asked the people if they liked their job. Yeah, let him finish, Amy. I can't believe this. Wait, Amy, did you have to, because of kid stuff, did you have to, like, say, oh, I can't, or whatever, or some schedule stuff and lie or something? You know what? It was really easy to hide it. Nobody was asking if I was doing that. Do you think Archie and Abel would have been able to keep the secret?
Did you not tell them? Well, I think one of them knew. One of them knew. One of them saw, our youngest saw my schedule on the kitchen table and said, you're doing Smartless? Oh, wow. Does dad know? No way. And I said, no, don't say anything. I love it. Abel kept the secret. It's so cool. Wait, and also, Amy and I were texting last night about something else. Z.
That's good. That is unbelievable. I can't. Amy, I didn't know what to say. I didn't know how to introduce you without them knowing it. Sean, I'm so honored to be your guest, Sean, of all three. Yes, likewise. First of all, I've asked her to do it and she said no. And then she said yes to Sean. Well, I wanted to wait until you had done 250 episodes to see if this thing was real. I know we've been trying to get you on for so long and it's so glad it worked out. I usually give something five years before I try it. Sure, sure. Bob,
Wait, Will, how many times have you asked her to do it? A couple times. I asked you to do it on tour, I think, right, Aime? Yeah, I think so, yeah. But, you know, I just was waiting for my buddy, Sean, to give me the go-ahead. Here I am. Here I am. I gave her the green light, and she showed up like a race car. Hang on one second. Hang on. Amanda, get over here. Okay.
What? But wait, Sean, did you think for a second, like, wait, should I? Is this cool? Like, did you ask Bennett or Rob to like kind of float it by will to see if that- Yeah, no, I mean, Amy's been on my list. What are you guys talking about? Why do you have to float anything past anybody? Well, we kind of do that every once in a while. Guys, nice, by the way, great welcome. Nice to see you.
see you all. I mean, Jesus, you're all talking about how weird it is that I'm here. Hi, I'm your guest. Nice to see you. How are you? Good Lord. First of all, you can't take over our podcast. You can't tell us. No, it's the only way to talk on this podcast is to completely take it over. Believe me. It's unbearable if the guest doesn't because you make me, you make us sit and listen to you in the beginning anyway. And it's torturous. It's
It's unbelievable. What do you think about how... And every single time I hear you guys talk about how much you miss each other. And am I wrong that you talk to each other every week? No. We don't get to see each other. We don't get to see each other. First of all, slow down. I'm outraged like five outrages ago. Okay?
This is so great. Wait, wait, for Tracy, just to really air, right, for my sister. Of course. You guys were married and now you're not and it's been years and years and everything's going swimmingly. What a great way to put it. Anyway, let me be the first to say welcome to Smart Music. Thank you. Thank you. We're 17 minutes in, but thank you for that. Ah.
Amy, this is so great. And great crickets joke, by the way, Will. That was a really good one. That was a good one. Very, very smart. Very smart. Thank you. Jason, are you okay with your mic? Yeah, I'm having a real mic issue this morning. Is it bad for you guys? Is this bad for me? No, it sounds great. Okay, good. It sounds fine. Now, so...
Amy, Will, how did you guys first meet? Yeah, we're going to get into it. No, we're definitely not. How did it first start to fracture? No, we're definitely not. We're definitely not. Amy, can I tell this story that you and I were talking about about Sedaris the other day?
Oh, yeah. That's a good, yeah, that's a very funny story. So, and I think I maybe told it once before, but you guys... Great, great Amy Sedaris story. So, Amy Sedaris, who's working with us on the film, I was hanging out with her the other day, and she, years ago...
Amy Poehler and Amy Sedaris would often get mixed up for each other because they're both comedians and they're both sort of blonde and kind of, you know... Cute and funny and talented and charming. And I've been with Poehler a million times where people would say to him, they'd go like,
I'm such a fan of your brother. And you're like, oh, he's a lawyer. Thank you. He'll really appreciate that. So I guess it happened to Sedaris too. And one time, like 20 years ago, I read this article in a magazine where Sedaris says, people come up to me all the time and say, oh my God, I love you so great. And I'm such a, you know, I just love you and Will. And Sedaris says in the interview, and I usually say to them like, yeah, Will and I are having a lot of sexual problems. Yeah.
Which is so funny. Yeah, that is really funny. Oh, look at Blast. He's really having an issue. Bateman's really having, it's so fascinating that he's having microphone problems. Will, Sean, tell her what it's like when I have technical issues. It's not good. I'm going to slam the laptop in a second.
What's wrong? We hear you great. We had McConaughey on once, and he was in the blind, and Jason was having issues, and it took 20 minutes, and he got so mad, and he was like, fuck it, and he started freaking out, and McConaughey starts laughing with his camera covered, and Jason goes, oh, it's really funny, isn't it? Who's laughing? Who?
Who's that? That's not helpful. And he slammed his computer. And I slammed my laptop like a bitch. Yeah, yeah. It was not all right, all right, all right is what you're trying to say. No, it was not all right, all right.
So, Amy, how did you start in comedy? Oh, believe me, we're getting into that. We're getting into that. Oh, Lord. You guys with your questions, they're so good. First of all, your questions are always so good. Right? So sought out. We're up for, as you would call it, a peabody. A peabody. Wait, Amy, how was... Can we talk about...
How was the, was SNL 50 fun? Because that show was great. Oh man, it was so fun. It was kind of out of body. Like it was kind of too, it was, it was,
almost too big, like, like celeb fatigue almost. Yeah. But it was so fun and I think it was a big success. Yeah, it was a great show. I started thinking about all the SUVs that must have been choking out Midtown. Like, you want me to give you a, you want me to give you a scoop? You want me to give you a smart list scoop? Yeah. Making news. Breaking news. People had to share dressing rooms and I shared mine with Meryl Streep. What?
How cool is that? Okay, is she a dirty bathroom girl? Does she keep the top off the toothpaste? Well, SNL, you don't have your own bathroom. You have like a, you know, it is a straight up, everyone uses like a hall bathroom. You don't have your own bathroom in your own dressing room at SNL. Do people still smoke back there?
No, I didn't see anybody smoking. Maybe vaping, but yeah. But yeah, maybe you could if you just did it. I bet no one would stop you. Was she a good dressing room partner? The loveliest. We were kind of two ships, but I took a picture of the door.
because it was nice to have my... I love that sketch she did. I know, so funny. So funny, yeah. Her and Kate. Kate is so... I mean, could she have hiked those jeans up higher? I mean, it was just tough. Just tough. But it was so fun. It felt like a high school reunion. Yeah.
Everybody regressed a little bit back into their old roles. Isn't that fun? And it was fun. It was, you know, I can't believe I was there, to be very honest. Like, it was wild. You and Tina were great in your bit. Yeah, you and Tina, I loved it. That was a great bit. That was so good. Thanks for Tracy Tina Fey. So listen, Amy, when you... Yeah, Tracy's got it, bro. Sean, you treat Tracy like she's getting dumber. Yeah.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Wait, tell a little bit. Wait, just you guys. And then you and Maya did Bronx Beat, which is an all-time fave. It's hilarious. Can you tell everybody? These guys probably don't know where Bronx Beat came from, the origin story of it. Oh, yeah. The story of that is there's an amazing...
uh hair the head of the hair department jody mancuso is from the bronx and she has that accent and she would just work with us in the hair makeup room and um we just started talking like her so there's a real jody so when we do the show we always go into the hair room and just have jody get you on be like our vocal dialect coach yeah get us there did you have you ever thought about bringing her in on the sketch
Yeah, but, you know, it's funny that we, you know, we brought Donna, the dresser, on for that moment. And those, the crew, like, they're so, you know, real professionals, like, don't care about being on camera. Right, yeah, yeah. Like, a really actual good professional could give a shit if they're, like, an...
after acting. Except for Wally. Wally loves it. Wally does love it. Wally loves it. Yeah, Wally the cute guy. The stage manager. But I said professional. I said professional. But Amy, being back, doing that 50th like that, like you said, it's like a reunion. I think I asked you a long, long, long time ago.
when you departed the show and you decided to leave, that I was like, won't you miss like that? I thought you were kicked off. Sorry, I had a different... I was asked to leave. I was making people uncomfortable. That's why. You were given the opportunity to retire. Well, I had a very gentle HR meeting where a man in a suit
Put me on an elevator, Severin style, and I don't remember what happened since. Do they have an HR on the show? Because if so, that's got to be a really high-trafficked office. Well, they do. They do have an HR, and they do, like all of the shows that we've all worked on, you know, I mean...
I mean, do you remember and do we still have to go through the, you know, all that training every time, which is very good to do. Every job. But yeah, it is. I believe that they do that still and should. Yeah. It's probably a very different environment than I was there 20 plus years ago for all of us. But when you, like there's, you're one of the...
all-time greats to ever, you know, be on SNL. And it's true. It's true. I mean, everybody's great, but there's breakouts. I really like her style. Oh, somebody's trying to do that. What about the after party? Was there a good, there must have been a very robust after party for this one. Yeah, robust after party at the Plaza Hotel. Whoa. Was there an after after with the little? There may have been. I didn't,
I didn't hang that long. I, you know, I love bedtime. Yeah. I used to be a vampire and now I love bedtime. I think about bedtime all day. Yes. Do they still do the little, like the little sort of, the size of like a fortune and a cookie, hand a little address for the after after party?
Is that still something that's done? I feel like one of the things that was different is things are texted and emailed. And I didn't have any of that when I was there wildly. We didn't even have phones that we carried around on the floor. I mean, maybe we did occasionally, but we would kind of leave them in the dressing room. But now everything is texted. So I imagine maybe it's a text now. Maybe it's a Snapchat or some kind of YouTube channel people subscribe to.
Maybe it's probably a podcast that tells you where the after after is. Speaking of pods, you've got a new pod on, Amy. Oh my God, thank you so much for that. Amy, please tell us about your new pod. Oh, that's why she's here. That's right. Yeah, that's right. What's it called? So...
And where can we find it? Good Hang with Amy Poehler. It's called Good Hang and it's on Spotify. Yes, can't wait. And I'm very excited. It's been really fun. We've been recording and getting ready for our launch. I don't know when this show is going to come on, when this one drops. How far ahead are you guys? July 2026. Okay, July 2026. So it's been going for about a year and it's been good. This is a good bump. This will be a good bump. We'll be right back.
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And now, back to the show. But wait, but Amy, I was going to ask you if you ever wanted to do sketch comedy again because, going back to what I was saying before, you're one of the all-time greats and
And you, it's hard to find people that can do what you do and Kristen Wiig does and Maya and Tina and all these, you know, really breakout people can do. And so, but every time I see you do it, I'm like, ooh, I just wish she would go, like, do more sketch comedy. But go back how? Like, what do you mean? Like, do a sketch show? That's a lot of work. I know, but so you're like, ooh, it's nap time, bedtime. It just, it just feels like...
I know what you mean, Sean. I love doing it. I just don't know if I could launch back into an actual full-time sketch show. It's so much work. And creating the material, generating materials, is so time-consuming, but I love it. As a fan, I think I speak for a lot of people. I'm like, oh, when we see you and everybody together, like, ooh. Well, we're not really taking questions from fans right now, but let me... Hey.
Amy, you don't really still do like ASCAP. There's no version of that anymore, right? No improv. But, you know, Tina and I have been on tour. We've done our show a bunch of cities last year. We're going back out again in March, April, and May for a bunch of dates. If you're in Orlando, do you have some dates you want to talk about? Yeah, we have Orlando. We have Detroit. Oh, that's great. We have Chicago, Boston. We're playing Red Rocks. Wow, no shit. Red Rocks. Yeah.
That's cool. Is it written or is it improvised? Yeah, so it's written. It's like a long variety show. We have special guests come in. We do...
we kind of go through the history of our 30-year friendship. But there's a section in it that where we talk about Chicago and how we met. And so we improvise there, which is really fun. Yes, I want to talk about that because I did Second City too and you did too. Yeah. And I never performed on the main stage, but you... Same. Oh, wow. So people think you're probably from Chicago all the time, but you're from Boston. Yeah, people think I'm from the Midwest a lot because also with Parks and Rec, their head goes to Indiana. So they think I'm like a Chicago... Would you consider yourself like a Boston homegirl? No.
I mean, I'm definitely a homie. How is Bill Pola? Tell us how Bill Pola is. Let's talk about Bill. Can we talk about Bill for a minute?
Oh, God, he'd love it. He'd like us to talk for an hour. He would. So this is the reason I got Chadwick's and Brigham's mixed up. I just want to tell this story, if I could. We can always cut it, Aime, by the way, which is... We don't cut anything on this show. We went to... No, I can tell. There's no editing. This is super baggy. We go to Brigham's, which is an ice cream store in the mall in Burlington, Mass., which is where Amy's from, with her mom and dad. Well, with her dad. And there's this girl. She's like, I don't know, 17, working there as like her afternoon job.
weekend job scooping ice cream. This is when Amy's first on SNL. And her dad goes, like, you know, 25 years, he goes, goes to the girl who's kind of silent, and he goes, you like your job? And,
And she goes, she's like scooping ice cream. She's like, yeah, I guess so. And he goes, you know who really likes her, Jeff? My daughter. He teed himself up, huh? It was so good. That's great. But he's so proud. I don't think that's changed. He will get on the elevator with people and say, do you like TV and movies? That's his question. Like,
Like, has anyone said no? And you're on the elevator with them? We played golf with these guys years ago, and Bill and I were playing with some random dudes, and he gets back in the car, and he looks at me and goes, well, I told them. He can't help it. He's so proud, though, in the best, best way. I love that. Both are parents. My parents are, like, Boston boys.
Very proud. Retired teachers. Yeah, they watched every SNL. They came to every early improv show I ever did live. They had a big...
Watch party for me when our show launched in 1998 on Comedy Central UCB They just are very very big fans and they are they're the definition of supportive parents I'll give you what you do were they the ones that were that were the first funnies in your family for you like is that yeah where you got your I think like I will I I throw this back out to you guys because I think that you have probably have families like this too, you know, you have to kind of keep up like I
For me, teasing is a love language. Of course. If I like you, I can tease you. And manners are kind of for people you don't know or you don't like. Right, yeah. So, like, the idea that you could...
bust each other was a way in which to sharpen your skills. And so we would tease each other. There was a lot of laughs at the table. Like, it's very like Boston Irish. And some families I learned as I went to college, like, are not that, which is always so shocking to me when families don't get to, like,
poke each other. It's like, oh, okay. It's a different set of rules. You would often accuse, well, first of all, I would say when you say sitting around the table, let's be honest, it's sitting around the kitchen. Well, let's be honest, it's sitting around the TV. It was sitting around the TV. But also, you would accuse me of playing too hard that Jason and I would play too hard.
Yeah. Well, you guys, you guys. It was just deep love. The love was too deep. You know how they call things a love tap? You guys are a love shove. That's what you guys do. You love shove. I love it. I like that. It's good. So it depends on the mood, you know? But I agree with you. Like people, like you can meet people and there is that thing of like, if I'm not teasing you. Yeah.
I'm not interested in you. Then I'm not really interested. Yeah. Right. In a way. Yeah. I mean, but some people have a higher and lower tolerance. Like, you know, you have to just be a little gentle. But as far as your... I read, too, Amy, that you say that you were parentified at a young age, meaning that, like, you became your parents because your parents were so young when they had you. Yeah, my parents were young. And don't you feel that way? Like, I don't know... I don't know...
But don't you feel, and this might be just our generation too. Yeah.
I just feel like we felt very old really fast. Like, we felt we had freedom, which gave us a sense of, you know, agency. And then we had jobs really early. And we just felt like we grew up fast. I don't know if that's a generational thing, but... Well, Jason, the thing about Jason, I'm not joking, was out working when he was... Sweet little JB was working when he was seven. Yeah.
I know, bless. So cute. Like with a little briefcase and a little security number. And a small mustache. Yeah. So you guys, so you both, what I'm interested in, Amy, your background and your parents being school teachers and learning kind of from that, like what did you take from them for Archie and Abel? And Will, what did you take from your parents for Archie and Abel? And how do you do that together? Let me try to bundle that for you. Amy, do you parent like your parents at all? No.
Oh, by the way. Look at you. Oh, yeah. No, I've been working on it. I've been working with a tutor. You've been working on bundling? Yeah, bundling is sort of a gathering term that he suggested I use internally, but now I'm spreading it. Yeah.
That actually, you could sell a whole bunch of like a series of tapes just talking about bundling other people's questions. Let me bundle that for you. You could be so successful talking about bundling. If you jumped on a mini trampoline and did a cold dip at the same time, you'd be a bundle king. I think parenting is a constant thing.
ever-changing thing, right? It's like, somebody said this to me once that I always loved, which was,
Parenting is like a series of short stories. So a short story starts and you think, I don't know how this story is going to go. I don't know the characters. I don't even know what's going to happen. And then you're in the middle of the short story and you think, man, I never want this to end. I love this. I love this. I got it. I'm in the groove. I know what I'm doing. And then the short story is over and you think, oh, no, there's no way the next one could be better. It's just like a series of –
Your kid is changing so much and the world is changing so much and you have to stay kind of flexible, pliable, learn from your mistakes. Yeah. I think the difference for me is, from my own parents, is I have to try really hard. Amy, you're really good at this and you helped me do this in concert with you. Yeah.
to try to be, to remember to listen to what they're saying and to not try to impose what I think they, you know, you need this, you need that, but to actually sit and listen to what your kid is trying to say. Like, you know what I mean? Encourage them to, as much as they can to speak and to really hear, and it's not, I don't come by it naturally because that's not how I was raised.
Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm the same. It doesn't always feel natural. Your instinct is to want to give them advice or tell them what to be aware of or afraid of or share your own personal stuff. Like that's so instinctual, of course, because we want the best for our kids. And I remember reading somewhere that
When your kid tells you something, you just repeat it back to them like you're doing a headline of a news story. It actually works really well with people too. I bet it happens on this podcast too. They say, oh, I had a bad day in math. And then you go, you had a bad day in math.
That's all you say, period, the end. I mean, I'm usually thinking about what the bit is, like, you know what I mean? But no, but you're right, you're right. And the other day, again, we were talking about something with one of our kids, and Amy and I were talking on the phone, and I said, oh, I identify with that, and I think that my own experience, and you said to me, you're like, they don't really want to hear about your experience, right?
They want you to listen to theirs. Yeah, yeah. And don't you feel like this happens as adults too when someone talks about like, well, when I used to, you're just like, oh boy. You know, even in your 50s, it still happens where someone talks about, well, I, you know, in the business I used to be in, we would be able, and you're like, that's not the way it is anymore, old man.
Right, right, right. It's not that you don't understand. Yeah, Jason, you must get old man a lot, right? A lot more recently. It's pretty shocking. Yeah, I find that I'm constantly battling like how much should I be like leading this parenting thing or how much should I be reacting to this parenting thing? In other words, like should I be waiting to see what they need me to parent them at or should I be like,
Or should I initiate sort of parenting based on nothing they're actually showing me? In other words, like, should I wait to see until how they react to a certain situation and then talk to them about that? Or this could use a bundle. Yeah. Yeah, we could bundle this. Are we still rolling? Can we go back to one? I think what you're trying to say, yeah. Amy, let's bundle. Let's bundle. Amy, try to guess what he's trying to say. I think the bundle here is how can I be best of service to my kids? Yes.
That's great. That's the bundle. That's so good. That's the bundle. But, you know, I read something, and by read something, I mean I saw it on TikTok. There...
Supposedly when your kids become teens, you go from producer to consultant. That's the difference. You're no longer producing their lives. You're there for them to consult. So you have to kind of let them start producing their own lives, which is not easy. Perfect use of the bundling concept. Yes. Right? I've also heard that...
You know, part of, like I've heard you love therapy as much as I love therapy. I can talk about it all day long. I love it. I love going to therapy. You go to therapy? Yeah.
And I'm always trying to make her laugh. And she's like, hey, let's get back on topic. She's so lucky to have you. You're so funny, Sean. Thanks, Amy. You're the funniest. You're the funniest, Sean. No, you're the funniest. And so, but you, I've heard, which means I saw on TikTok, that you identify as someone who's a natural like fixer or you want to,
get into action and problem solve because that's kind of how I am a little bit. But as you've gotten older that you've taught yourself how to pause and feel feelings and stuff like that and how... Barely. You got a lot of quotes out there. I do my research. I do my research. You're talking out loud. You're really living out loud. I sent Sean a bunch of needlepoint pillows with a bunch of stuff on it and took credit for it. He's filled with pillows. I just regurgitate a whole conversation you had on your phone that I overheard.
No, that how has that like shaped you today? Because I also read that you, the best work that you've ever done is the work where you feel most present. Yeah, I think improv was really helpful with that. Like you had to stay super present just to be, I mean, I imagine you guys feel that with this podcast too, right? Like you're actually where you are. Yeah. As opposed to being ahead or behind, which is really hard. Yeah.
Yeah, I'm still searching for that. Still every day trying to stay in the present moment. It's not easy for me like to not, you know, jump ahead. Will you talk to me about that? Because I've always been told that like it's best to just stay in the present. But like my brain tells me. I know. But you go in there and your brain is like. I got plans, you know. As I'm stuck.
Yeah. I've got plans. I've got a desire for the way I want this meeting to go or this week to go or something like that. Yes, I know what you mean. I struggle with that too. I know. Oh, JB, that's so sweet. It's true. You do. You do go in with that. But what are you supposed to do with that? Wait, what is that? Is that me inhaling a bomb hit? That's inside your brain. Inside your brain. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah. It's just empty braces. And then a little plan flies by like a bird like...
Yeah. That's a little plan. So am I just supposed to react to things and not drive anything? I don't know. It's a great question, actually. I don't know because I'm struggling with that all the time. How much can I be prepared? Because that calms me down. Preparation calms me down. But, you know, life, you cannot control. You cannot control things in life. I mean...
it's just like you have to let go. You know what's a perfect example of that, JB, today, when I just told you I sprained my foot really bad last night. It was so painful. I can't even describe it. And my old me would have been like, oh my God, I gotta cancel this. I can't do this. And I'm like...
This is what it is right now. And I surrender to it. And I go, if I can't do this and I have to cancel that and I can't show up for it, then that's what it is. I think. And it used to make me really depressed. I think that is one of the benefits I've been saying recently. I've been saying in therapy that, oh, no applause. I've been saying that. Oh, wait, Will, you're going.
- Oh wait, that's great, and you are 54. - 54. - Okay, very good. - And what I've noticed at 54 is, and especially in the last six months,
It just kind of occurred to me. I'm like, oh, I'm doing a much better job of this is what the situation is. And I'm realizing it in real time. And I'm not really in a panic about the outcome. I'm just accepting it for what it is. And I said this to you the other day. I got this notion of feelings are going to come.
Feelings aren't going to kill you. Your feelings aren't going to kill you. That's a big one. And I went, oh, yeah. And I can let it, I can feel it, and then I can let it go. And I can recognize, I think I used to, you know, you'd freak out and then you'd think about it later. Now I can, in real time, go, oh, this is where I am.
in a much better way than I, for me anyway, than I've ever been able to do. And I think that that's the benefit of being older, having experience, et cetera. I find my 50s to be my favorite decade by far. Yeah. By far. Oh, really? That's the way you get to your 60s. It's pretty cool. I'm having a great time.
No. Yeah. What if you guys find out you see Jason's license one of these days and you find out he's 62? I thought about that the other day. No, Willie, I like what you said about like not being attached to the outcome. Maybe that's a good hack for me. It's like it's okay to be prepared, but don't be like stuck on it has to end this way. Again, it's a new concept for me. I've just been kind of going through it and it's very freeing.
Well, like Jason, for example, your mic hasn't been working this whole time and the audio hasn't recorded and you should be fine with that. Like, just let that go. It's going to be great. It's a great episode and just let go of the outcome of that. I can't touch it. I can't move it. Amy, any funny stuff happen on stage before? Any funny stories? No, come on. Wait, Amy, why is 50 the best decade?
I feel like I finally have a better sense of who I am, kind of what we've been talking about. I have some of my priorities are, you know, like I just feel like there's a,
I'm a little kinder to myself. I definitely care less about how I'm perceived by other people as long as I feel like my side of the street is clean. And I have a lot of wise people younger and older than me. Like I'm in this sandwich of experience. So I learn a lot from people who are younger than me. And I learn a lot from people that are older than me. And knock on wood,
I still feel healthy. Like being in your 50s, you're like the youngest old person you know. You're the youngest of the old people. That's right. You're the freshman of old people. That's really true. And so we'll never be this young again in our 50s because, you know, I'm looking to people in their 60s and 70s to seeing like how they're living life, how they're doing it, how they're keeping healthy. And then I still feel connected to people in their 20s and 30s. Like it doesn't feel so far away. Yeah, I'm on medication to reverse the aging process. Oh.
Ooh, what are you doing? I'll text you. I'll send it in the chat. I'll send it in the chat. You're that guy who does all those crazy things to like stay in super shape. Oh, that too. Oh my God, remember that? Did you watch that? Oh my God, that's wild. Wait, Amy, remember when you used to come over and we would watch Intervention? Oh my God, yes, Sean. We would airplay all the instruments in the opening theme.
Great theme, intervention. By the way, that's such a good show. I know, that show made me so uneasy. I wanted to tell the story, or for you to tell the story, about remember the time that you told your friend that the TV was voice activated? Oh, my God. Have you told that story yet? I don't remember. Oh, God. Well, maybe can I try to tell it? Yeah.
It was, Sean was with a bunch of friends, right? Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Sean. No, no, I was just going to help you out. And you guys were really... We would get stoned after... Stoned, get really stoned. After an episode, after taping an episode of Will & Grace...
And we went back to his house one night. Will and Grace, that's the show you were on. That's it. You couldn't think of it? Talk about a show. Never going to get through it. This guy. A story that long, we'll never make it on here.
Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Don't tell it. It's good. It's really good. Just bundle it. All right, well, bundle it. Bundle it. I'll try to bundle it. Okay, here we go. So we would go back after we would get stoned and we'd just hang out and talk about the night and whatever after we'd tape an episode of Will and Grace. So we go to his house. It was a brand new house.
and he has a brand new house. He has a brand new media system, this massive screen in the screening room. And I'm high out of my mind. I can't even see straight. And he's trying, he goes, I just got the DVD of Castaway. We should watch it where the plane crows down because the effects are so cool, right? I'm like, yeah, let's put it on and watch it. So he walks all the way to the front of the screening room and I'm way in the back and I start to giggle. He's like, what's so funny? I'm like, nothing. And he can't get it to play. And I go...
Is that a Sony? And he goes, yeah. And I go, well, those are the new ones. You don't even know what you have. You're so rich, right? They're voice activated.
And he goes, what? And I go, those are voice activated new screens. Like you have to speak the name of the movie into the DVD player. And he goes, you're making that up. That's not even true. I go, those are the new screens. You have to speak the name of the movie. And he totally bought it. And he goes really close into the DVD player. And he goes, cast away. And he looks at the screen and it didn't come up. And the second time,
Cast away. And I couldn't breathe. Me and Meredith Walker say cast away into our remote control a lot. No way. A lot. And into our DVD a lot. Cast away. Cast away. Oh, Meredith. Let's say hi to Meredith. Hi, Meredith. Hi, Meredith. Hi, D.
Are you guys still working together? It's a friend of all of ours, Meredith Walker. Yes, yes. Is she still in Austin? Yep, living in Austin. She's so great. We love Meredith. We love, love, love Meredith. Yeah, we say cast away quite a bit. Oh, that's great. I love telling someone something is voice activated when it isn't. I don't like a prank. I'm not a prank person at all. You might know this, but that is a harmless funny prank. That is harmless.
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Okay, so wait. Sean, do you have any questions for Amy, your guest? It's okay. I mean, we don't need to. No, no, this is minute 46. I don't think we've had a legit one yet. I know. I've asked her a couple ones. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do we really need to? I mean, we should probably— No, it's a conversation. Yeah, it's a conversation. Wait, wait. I do want to get into—you touched on it before. Talk a little bit about when you were in Chicago, Amy, and how you knew—
Yeah. That's what I want to know. Second City, who was in that when you were on the tour? You toured with Second City and Improv, Improv Olympics, Chicago, all that stuff. And then how that moved to New York and UCB and all that stuff. Just bundle it. Well, I mean, it is... I'll bundle it because it is important as a storyteller to discuss my craft. You will get kicked off this podcast if you're a storyteller. I love telling a story and I love crafting a story and I love...
of my story craft to be about telling craft. Oh, God. So, getting this right. The only thing we like on this podcast more than independent film is talking about independent film. Go ahead, Amy. Started out in Chicago and arrived at Second City in 93, and the seniors to my freshmen were, on the main stage of Chicago, Amy Sedaris, Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert. Amazing. Wow.
Mike Myers and Chris Farley had just left to go to like stardom at SNL. I rented Chris Farley's old apartment. In Chicago? In Chicago. I didn't know I was renting it, but you know. In the Hancock building? Yeah.
No, it was another earlier one. Yeah. You know, back then in the 20s, when we were in our 20s and we moved every year. Like, remember moving every year? Yeah, yeah. Yes, that's true. And I think the apartment was probably like $390 a month. Yeah. And hard to make that rent. Yeah, yeah. And then, yeah, studied and met Tina there very early on and met Rachel Dratch, who I was the understudy for at Second City. And it was just, the place was lousy with talent. Everyone was so great. And, yeah.
And then moved with, and then UCB, Matt Besser, Matt Walsh, Ian Roberts, Ali Farinakian. All great guys. Yes, yes, yes. Adam McKay, all those guys. Neil Flynn, they were all part of a big improv group called The Family that we would go and watch and they were incredible. And then they also had UCB. I joined in 93 and then in 96, which is not that much time now that I think about it. It was only three years, but we left and moved to New York.
Drove to the city, did a show, and just started. Well, at the time it was, and Will, I don't want this to be uncomfortable for you, but I was dating Matt Besser at the time. I knew it. I fucking knew it. No, no, truly, I knew it. But here's the thing. Here's a funny story, and Amy knows this. So, 96, and she knows how good I am with dates and this.
Yeah, you're very good. 96. They come and they do UCB. So it's Amy, Walsh, Besser, and Ian. And they do their show, Bucket of Truth, which was an amazing show. It was so funny. It was a sketch show. Improv and sketch, etc.,
and they're doing it downstairs at the West Bank on 42nd Street. And Peter Principato, the beloved Peter Principato, who we all love. My first agent. First agent. William Morris. And Peter Principato, and he was my agent at the time, and he said to me, hey, I've just signed this new comedy group. You've got to go see them. They're performing at the West Bank. So I went with Duff.
And, Amy, I was dating Missy at the time. I don't know if I told you that. Oh, touche. So we go, the three of us, to the West Bank knowing nothing, go downstairs to that little stage and watch them do Bucket of Truth and we're blown away. You had not yet met Amy. Had not yet met. We watch the show. We're blown away. We go for a drink after. We're talking about it. We talked about it for a few days because nobody was doing what they were doing. And we were like,
God, that was so funny and it was so inventive and it was so cool and blah, blah, blah. So that is January of 1996. And just like, what the fuck? Continue, sorry, Amy. Yeah, then we were there just slogging away. And like Will said, and we remember this too, right? Like people had to come see you live. They had to go actually see you. We didn't have any, like...
Now you can really deep dive on someone really fast on the internet, but we didn't have that. So you had to like go see people live. What was that first space you guys had when you started? We had a Solo Arts was the name of it. Yeah, was like the walk-up theater where we would improvise there and stuff. So we just kind of, you know, slogged for a while in New York and,
And handed out flyers in Washington Square Park and everyone, I was a waitress and just thinking like, okay, you know. And then I started getting some bits on Conan because of Andy Richter. And that's where I got like my SAG card. That's where I got my, you know, I got paid like an under five. And now you're in the building though, right? Like, could you like taste the possibility of SNL perhaps? Did you allow yourself to start to dream that? Mm-hmm.
That's such a good question. I think you're right. I didn't really put that together, but you're right. Like walking in a 30 rock, you are, I always feel like with jobs and stuff, like Chicago felt like where I was getting my training, but New York and Los Angeles, it's almost like, you know, when you're having like a pickup game of basketball and someone's just standing around and you're like, hey, come play. Don't say sure. Yeah.
your proximity to the game can be very helpful. Yes. Like getting closer to the game, just being around. So that's what happened. When we moved to New York, we were just a little closer to the game. So we got asked to do things. And you're doing bits on Conan, and you did Andy's sister, Richter's sister, and you started doing more. And all those guys were there who were writers, a lot of whom were performers from Chicago you knew, like McCann,
and Glazer and all those guys. Brian Stack, one of the all-time greats. And all those people, they're all there writing on Conan, and you guys are all kind of part of this group of people who are creating comedy, right? Yeah, my decision to move to Chicago was probably the best decision ever.
for me in my career because it allowed me to meet all these people really fast who then went on to do things that I got to be a part of. Like, they remembered me for things. They put me in small things. They, you know, wrote things for me. And it, like, was just this, like, concentrated feeling of comedy at the time that...
that then everybody went to LA and New York and, you know, and McKay was the head writer of SNL and then Tina got a job there. That's amazing. We all just started. It was really, really cool to, and I depended on the kindness of a lot of those people for a long time to have a job. Mm-hmm.
Let me ask you like a tough question and I'll try to bundle here. It's basically after all of the accomplishment, you've just walked us through the whole beginning and everything. It just seems like you've done or maybe even far exceeded what you allowed yourself to dream of at that age when you were starting and
what's left? What would you love to do in your next, now that you're a freshman? Why do you still get out of bed, Amy? Yeah, I mean, there's like, you've just, you've done it. You've like, you've had like this incredible career already and you're still, as you said, a freshman and,
Like, where would you love, how would you like to use what you've done, the success you've had? Bundle, bundle. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead. Well, I am, that's why I'm starting to wind down and this podcast is the beginning of that. Like, I'm just starting to wind down away from showbiz. Hang on a second. Wait, truly? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just to be cool. We're the number two most downloaded podcast on the planet. No, no, her podcast she's talking about. Oh yeah, that is a wind down. You're right. That is a wind down. No? Or are you talking about us? Well, you know what? It remains to be seen. But no, no, I, I, but honestly,
it is kind of why I'm excited to do a podcast because I'm actually, Jason, to genuinely answer your question, I am excited about what is the next. I like thinking about what is the next thing to do. Like I like trying new things. That's what keeps me feeling engaged in the world and are like creative. So I'm very excited about this new podcast because I really like, I'm a huge fan of podcasts in general. Yes, I saw that. I listen to them all the time and they're really replaced a lot of like
for me and I'm into the idea of exploring it because I really like talking to people and I'm curious about people and I learn a lot about myself and I like to have fun. Like I think what's happened in the space, especially for women, is that women are being asked to be teachers and wise leaders and like a lot of, and they don't get to fuck around and like do very little research like you guys. Yeah, zero. Yeah.
You guys do not know who the guest is, which is the wildest con in the world. By the way, you could have bundled that insult. That would have been a lot nicer. But let me ask you a tough question. Wait, really quick. Shut up for one second. Shut the fuck up. Amy, Amy, answer this question honestly. This is a tough one. This is a hard hitting, all right? All right. And I know you're very serious for a comedian, so that's okay. Okay.
Her mom used to say that to her when they'd get into arguments. When we get in a fight, she'd say, you're so serious for a comedian. So, wait, have you ever listened to Smartless? Of course I have. Okay, you have. That's a little high. I've listened to Smartless. She did go up on that. Of course I have. Of course I have. My favorite part is the one with the lady and the other one with the guy. I love the one with the guy. Oh, my God. Oh, I like the one
But so your answer to my unbundled question sort of gets into the area of there is a slight plan, but you still want to kind of stay in the present and not be too sort of strategic about what the next five, 10 years are, right? So like, how do you find the balance there?
I guess it's just figuring out, it's just kind of figuring out what is, feels challenging. I like a challenge. So I like mixing things up to feel challenging. And also a big part of my 50s has been balancing things
my relationship to work in general, and how do I make sure that there's real balance in my life? Like the last five, you guys were talking about being on your podcast. Stuff that's not challenging, potentially, right? It's relaxing, yeah. Yes, like basically how to find ease and balance
and enjoy, you know, the past five years have been wild. Wild. And, you know, what you guys do here, what I've been doing is just like trying to just genuinely laugh with my friends. It's been actually, you know, how I've been keeping sane. And so I want to just do whatever feels right.
like that, which feels kind of fun and a little bit challenging. And so I'm always trying to figure it out. I don't know. It's a long-winded answer. No, I love it. I don't know. No, but it makes total sense. It's basically a combination of all the things. And you're able to combine now because you're older and smarter and wiser. And it doesn't have to be like all go on career or all go on just like, no, fuck it. I don't want to do anything. We're actually able to merge both now finally at this age, I think. Yeah.
And women, I think, especially have often a burden to really pay attention to what everybody is doing and feeling and then...
if you have the luxury of turning it around and trying to figure out yourself, it's like that is what can be great about getting older and women do really well, I think, when they give themselves time to do that. Let me speak to that. Let me speak about women. Yeah, let's talk about women. But go ahead. Your thoughts on women? But, Aima, who is that person that you bounce stuff off of or when you get like...
Oh, I would say all of the women in my life have been like really, really helpful mentors and teachers and friends and stuff. Like, you know, the women in my life that have been through it with me, I think, is really the biggest resource for me. You know, people who have kids and people who, you know, who understand what it's like to feel overwhelmed and stuff. And especially the past five years, which has just been a complete...
Insane. Insane. Hit after hit of sci-fi nightmares. It's a dream of mine. What's it like being, for you and Will, being on the verge of being empty nesters? It's not the verge, but it's going to come sooner than later. Do you think about that? I do. How that relates to what you're going to do? Wow.
I know. I haven't really, but kind of in the short story metaphor, I haven't, I'm like, I don't feel like the story, I'm there yet, so I'm not quite. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it feels so, I don't even know. It sucks. I got one about to go to college and it's fucking. How does it feel, Jace? It's bleak, you know, because there's just, it's a mortality thing. It's like, you know, we all kick it down the road. Oh, it's about you.
Well, but it's like, it's the concept of the end of something that is just something you, it's conveniently kind of pushed aside and then it's here. Can I say something about that that I've noticed? And this is, JB, this is, I've learned from you something that, and I mean this, I mean this gently and I mean this sweetly, which is,
which is... This is gonna hurt. No, which is, you've been... Jason's been so nervous and anxious about Franny going to college for a few years, and he's talked about it. And so I see him going through the pain for so long, and this is an example of not living in the present. So...
Sometimes I think that you had a tough time enjoying the moment because you're just so, you've been anticipating. For years, you've been putting that out and talking about it. I've been trying to separate myself from her so it doesn't hurt. Yeah, exactly, which is, by the way, which is so you. Remember you do that, like Jason's thing to not laugh when he's in a take is to think about people dying in a car crash. I'm not kidding. And then he won't go up.
Well, we all know. We all do that. We all know Jason is sociopathic. No, he's a robot. But the thing is, but I see that in you and I've said it to you before. I'm like, it's okay. Like let that moment come when that moment comes and enjoy. So I've been using it. I keep reminding myself, just enjoy it now. Enjoy it now. It's again, not easy. It is not easy. No. It's a great no. Well, raise your hand if you think you're going to live to 100 and if you want to live to 100. Yeah.
That's me. Okay, three of us are raising our hands. Sean is not raising. It's that ankle. Sean's like, I can't go on with that ankle. I can't. With this ankle? No way. No, I'm done. The ankle was the last straw. I think we got a shot. Yeah, no, it's really, didn't one of these really smart scientists lately say that the person that's going to live to 120 or 150 or something is already born?
Like that's going to be kind of common in this generation. Like 100 is like the new 80s. Yeah, but what kind of life do you have at 120? Yeah, Sean, I hear you. Like as long as it feels like a fruitful life. But, you know, imagine if you were like a little dude in a cute little suit. But they cut to the, like in the news, like the local news, they cut to like Marjorie is 106 today and we visited her and she can't talk or move. And they're like, Marjorie, Marjorie, what advice?
do you have for people to live this long? She's like, make sure that you... She's got cake falling out of her mouth. Please walk in and have a glass of wine.
Exactly. I don't want to be that. I don't want to be Marjorie. Remember, remember Ernest Borgnine had that great, he had this great advice on how to live forever, which was to snap one off every day. And Amy, you know, and yeah, and you know where he lived? In Jason and Amanda's house. So I, I always remind him to think about Ernest Borgnine walking around that house. Just throwing goo all over the place. He had bored nine lives that day. Oh,
Oh, nice. Very nice. Thanks, guys. Amy, I have one last comment before we let you go because we've had you for too long and I want to thank you for your time. Thank you, Sean. I told you and both you and Will, I love Archie and Abel so much and I love Maple and Franny too and everybody on this podcast right now.
You guys have done such a phenomenal job with, between your journey, between you two, your kids are just amazing.
unbelievable, great human beings. And it's the greatest compliment, you know, because to you guys. Yeah, I just love them and you guys. They're incredible. And I wanted to remind people to listen to Good Hang with you. Thank you. It's on Spotify. And I have great guests coming out. Tina Fey is my first guest. No kidding. That's great. Yep. Because, you know, give America what they want.
And then get Dax on there. Dax will give you some pointers. Yeah, Dax would be great. Can't wait. Yeah, any pointers, guys, now that you're five years in? As you can tell, we've learned nothing. Zero. We're last people. I mean, if you guys can do it... It's true. Anybody can do it. By the way, Amy, you won't be surprised that we haven't looked at comments forever. They'd always be like,
their questions suck and they interrupt people all the time. And I'm like, yeah, of course we do. What are you talking about? If you guys have taught me anything and you've taught all individually and collectively taught me so much, it's don't overthink it. Right.
It's good. Unbelievable. I'm so glad we finally got you. We love you, Amy. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having me on. It was so fun. Thank you, Amy. Okay, glad it was a fun surprise. It was such a good surprise. I'm bringing the boys over. Okay. Can't wait. Bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Bye, Amy. Thank you. Yeah, you got it. My pleasure.
So, well, that was fantastic to meet her. I've been such a fan of hers for, I don't know. How funny. I had no, you know what, when you were doing the intro, and of course I was like, and then she was like, oh, you didn't, I was like, it never occurred to me
You just thought it was coincidental that all, oh, well, you know, Amy did all those things. How did you guess it, Jay? From what? Because you said a queen of Massachusetts or something like that. Oh, wow. You knew it just like that. I had such a like, yeah. I love that you didn't know. I told Amanda last week.
Oh, yeah. Amanda could work for the government. She is very good about keeping a secret. But the kids, Abel's here right now. He never said a word. I love that. God bless him. I love your face. I'm going to go drag him out of his bed.
How dare you? That was rad. Listen, it's not to get weird, but I hope you're as proud as you should be and she as well. I mean, like, that went beautifully. Like, the fact that you guys not only have raised these two kids so well, but your relationship is so great and healthy and, like, you could do a fucking one-hour podcast in front of millions of people and not have to fake anything. Like, it's just, you know, it's pretty admirable. I know it's, like...
full disclosure, like any couple that goes through the journey you've gone through, it took a while, but you're there now. Yeah. But, you know, I am really proud of it. And, of course, things take a minute because everybody's sort of adjusting to what it is. But I'm also...
very proud of, certainly as parents, what we've been able to do. And that, you know, has been really important to both of us. And yeah, I'm really, really lucky to have her as a partner in this way for us to parent in this way. How lucky Archie and Abel are too. You guys like worked out a brand new relationship that serves you both and them. And I would say that I probably, you know,
There aren't many people I speak to more than I speak to her, which is weird because, you know what I mean? Yeah. But it's great. I feel really lucky and I do still... Does Josh Shotland get jealous at all? He does, but she is somebody that I still run a lot of stuff by if I'm thinking about... Does who get jealous? If Josh is not available... He's my buddy Josh, you know, that I FaceTime with. Oh, Josh. I didn't hear what you said. But I still like... She's the person I go like, hey, I'm thinking about doing this or hey, whether it's life or work...
And I really, I seek her counsel because it's important to me because I trust her. Yeah, and she's a sharp cookie. She's awesome. She's awesome. What was the bye from the opening? It was a bicentennial. Oh, yeah. 250 episodes. That's right. So anyway, so guys...
That was unbelievable. And enjoy the rest of your day. No, it's our 250th episode. I can't believe it. Wait, what? Yeah. You remember 1976? Yeah, yeah, yeah. United States. That was the 200th. That was the... Bye, San Antonio!
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