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Billy Gill: 本期节目讨论了即将开始的橄榄球赛季,表达了对赛季的期待和兴奋之情,并谈到了纽约市场对棒球的关注度高于橄榄球。他还讨论了关于迈阿密海豚队四分卫图阿的合同问题,以及对喷气机队夺冠预测的看法。 在节目中,他还参与了多个游戏环节,例如“成败在此一举”、“你听说过吗?”、“更有可能”等,并对多个球员和教练的未来发展进行了预测和讨论。 此外,他还分享了一个关于帕特里克·马霍姆斯和拉马尔·杰克逊的趣闻,并列出了他心目中穿着8号球衣的五大最佳运动员。 Mikey Yang: Mikey Yang在节目中表达了对即将开始的橄榄球赛季的期待,并对纽约市场对棒球的过度关注表示了无奈。他还参与了多个游戏环节,例如“成败在此一举”、“你听说过吗?”、“更有可能”等,并对多个球员和教练的未来发展进行了预测和讨论。 此外,他还对媒体对喷气机队夺冠的预测表示了质疑,并对图阿和丹尼尔·琼斯的处境进行了比较。在节目最后,他还参与了对丹·坎贝尔和麦特·拉弗勒两位教练的讨论,以及对图阿和史蒂芬·A·史密斯合同问题的讨论。 Fuentes: Fuentes在本期节目中主要参与了多个游戏环节,例如“成败在此一举”、“你听说过吗?”、“更有可能”等,并对多个球员和教练的未来发展进行了预测和讨论。 此外,他还分享了他心目中五个在训练营开始前让他感到担心的球队,并对这些球队的阵容和球员状况进行了分析。 Stu Gatz: Stu Gatz在节目中参与了多个游戏环节,例如“成败在此一举”、“你听说过吗?”、“更有可能”等,并对多个球员和教练的未来发展进行了预测和讨论。 他还对扬基队球迷对球队现状的不满情绪进行了评论,并对图阿、丹尼尔·琼斯和达克·普雷斯科特的处境进行了比较。此外,他还对NFL百强球员名单进行了分析,并对超级碗转播权拍卖的可能性进行了讨论。最后,他还分享了关于拉马尔·杰克逊和特洛伊·艾克曼就8号球衣商标权问题发生的法律纠纷。

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God bless football, Billy Gill. God bless football, Mikey Yang. God bless football, Fuentes.

God bless football, Stu Gatz. We are getting closer, fellas. We are getting closer to actual football games being played. Are you excited, Mikey A? People are working on it. People are showing up. It's hot. They're wearing those funky helmets. They're working on it. I'm excited. How do you feel about the funky helmet, Billy? Do you know the helmet he's talking about? I do. Yeah, it looks weird, right?

It's going to take some getting used to. I'm curious to see how many players play with the guards during the actual game because I think they can wear them this season. So we'll see how many people opt to do that and what it looks like during an actual game. It'll be interesting. Hey, everybody's in camp. Everybody's reported. I mean, not every player, but every team in camp. It started. Football has started, Stugatz.

Football season has started. I'm so excited for it. I need it so badly in my life. I'm up here in New York right now, and I'm telling you, it's the only market in America where they don't care if it's July because they're still talking baseball. They don't want football to start. They want baseball to never end. It's the weirdest thing, man.

Not Yankees. It is so straight. I will also tell you this, though. I'm sorry, Billy. Go ahead. I was going to say not Yankees fans. My understanding is that Yankees fans think the season's over already while being up like 20 games over 500.

Yeah, I was blasting him today. Yeah, right. It's more of a, yeah, we see how this is going to end. It's going to be, yay, we made the playoffs. Oh, we got swept. I know, but you're three and a half up in the wild card. Jerry Recco actually said this on WFAN. They were 59 and 42 at the time he said it. He said it felt like they were 42 and 59. How is that possible? You can't be 59 and 42, and it feels like you're 42 and 59. It's impossible. I'm telling you.

Really? Yeah. You feel the same way? You agree with Recco? Is that what you're saying? I'm saying I could see how you'd feel that way. I don't know that I'd go that far, but I could see how you'd feel that way. Okay.

And I'm saying Billy would give anything to have a baseball team that was 59 and 42 that felt like it was 42 and 59. Am I right, Billy? I mean, the fact that you guys are complaining about making the playoffs every year, you have 27 titles. Like, get out of here. Get out of here. But, Billy, see, your team makes the playoffs and wins the World Series, or they don't make the playoffs. Like, there's something to be said about making the playoffs and then watching your team have to go home. Like, we could have beat that team. We could have beat that team. But...

The Marlins season is over in July every year.

The season's already over, confirmed. This season they actually... Opens your schedule. Wait, you have it going that long? That's what I'm saying. In June it was over. No, they traded Luis Urias May 3rd this year. That's when it was over. A month into the season. We're like, eh, never mind. And the GM said, eh, this wasn't our year. And it's like, a month in? We're not here to talk about the Marlins. We're 20 games in. We should do God Bless Baseball. No, we're not here to talk about baseball. I'll tell you who should. It's Jerry Recco. I mean, that guy...

Him and Giannotti. They don't want baseball to end, ever. Anyway, we have a lot to get to today. More Mike Lee. I am excited for that. We have Fuentes top five. We have Billy's story of the week. And I'm certain we will have more games along the way. Billy, is there? What's going on with Tua down there in Miami? I'm up in New York right now doing some shows for WFAN as we record this. They are very excited about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. They are too excited about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets. I would prefer they tone it down.

But, Billy, what is the latest here with Tua and the Dolphins? The latest that I saw on ESPN today was Tua's practice status fluid amid contract talks. Really? He's going to practice gone. Tua's not going to sit down. Let's be real. He's too nice. He's too nice. He's too nice to have a holdout. It's not going to happen. Right. He's going to play 18 games without a contract. He's going to volunteer. He's like, oh, guys, I don't know.

Want me to play all the preseason games too? Let's do it. Skyler can't come in today? Oh, okay. I got him. Don't worry. It's so weird. Every snap. How do you guys feel about Jet fans being very excited about their football team? Because I am telling you, I'm in New York. I feel it. They're calling it to the radio station. They think this is the year, Mikey.

Did you see USA Today's official prediction? Has the Jets winning the Super Bowl? Yes, I did. I don't think I've ever felt so bad about something said so nice about my team than I do. I wanted to throw up when I read it because you just know it's all going to go downhill. I believe it's the first time anyone has predicted the Jets will win the Super Bowl. I do. I can't.

I can't recall in all the years rooting for the Jets where someone had them as a preseason favorite to win the Super Bowl. I cannot recall that. It's disgusting. It's disgusting. I feel nauseous about it. Right. I know.

It's going to be interesting what happens here with Tua. It's also, you know, the same thing has got the same conversations that we've had about Tua are going on with Daniel Jones, Billy. Daniel Jones already got his contract. He got it based off of one playoff victory a couple of years ago. He is guaranteed $47 million.

coming up this year. And if you've watched Hard Knocks, you have seen Joe Shane, who has been on this show, trying to move up in the draft to get a quarterback, even though he has Daniel Jones at $47 million. They end up taking a wide receiver. I do wonder how Daniel Jones' experience is watching that play out in the draft room where they have a quarterback, yet they're trying to trade up to get someone they think is better. But

They are kind of talking about some of the same stuff we have talked about where Daniel Jones, give him one more year. If it doesn't work out, the Giants can opt out of that deal and maybe go after Dak Prescott. This is, this is, it's kind of crazy. And I keep telling them that Dak is not going to the Giants and they keep asking why Billy. And I said, that's because Dak is going to the Dolphins. How about that? I know you keep doing this. That's the Dolphins thing. I'm I'm,

wondering if there is a player in the NFL who has had more make it or break it seasons than Daniel Jones while still being in the exact same position kind of Dak too though

Because it's the Cowboys. Yeah. Because it's the Cowboys. Yeah. Every year is making a break for Dak. Yeah. But I think with Dak, like a lot of people are like, yeah, like he belongs. Every year it's kind of like we're looking for the reason for Daniel Jones to prove that he belongs in the NFL. And then like we don't really see it. But like the next year we're still there. We're like, this is year. Make it or break it here, Daniel Jones. I think people want Daniel Jones to make it, but he keeps breaking it. Yeah. Can we play a little game of make it or break it? Okay. Yeah.

Is this a make it or break it year for Deshaun Watson? No. Because of the money? Because of the contract. Right. That's a good point. He doesn't have to make it. He already broke the bet. He's got to make it no matter what. And he already broke the team. I was trying to figure out the game. You set it up like you wanted the answer to be make it or break it. And Mikey's just like, no. Right. Well, that's true. Make it or break it, Mikey. Deshaun Watson.

You asked, is it a make it or break it year? And I said, no. Make it or break it. Yeah, but you have to answer correctly. Oh, he breaks it. He breaks it because who cares? Make it or break it year. I got to find a good guy. I was going to say Trevor Lawrence, but he's in the same boat. They're paying him a lot of money. Make it or break it. Jalen Hurts. Do you think they're going to get rid of Jalen Hurts? Yeah. No. I do. Sirianni's gone before Hurts is gone. 100%. This is a make it or break it year for Sirianni. Yeah.

Mm-hmm. I would say the same thing. Okay. Now you're playing a better game, Billy. I would say the same thing for the coach in Buffalo, too. Like Josh Allen's there until he retires. Yeah, McDermott's more of a break-it than Josh Allen. He's been through a lot of make-it-or-break-it years, though, McDermott, right? He has. I didn't think he was going to survive last year. I thought last year was the year that McDermott was going to be gone, and then they got rid of Ken Dorsey, became the sacrificial lamb, and then they kind of, at the end of the year, picked things up a little bit, and McDermott survived again.

And then Ken Dorsey, who everybody was like, oh my God, this is like the next head coach, has now just fallen off the face of the earth. Because as soon as he was gone, then the offense started looking better. And then it's like, oh, maybe he's not a genius after all. How about Kyle Shanahan, make it or break it? He's what? No. At some point, you have to go to the... No, no, no. Mikey A. I don't care.

At some point, I don't care how many people tell me this guy is a genius. He is so ahead of the curve. He is thinking differently than every other coach. At some point with this roster, a roster this talented, you have to not only make the Super Bowl, but you have to win one. I mean, come on. What do you think would happen to the fabric of existence if the Bills met Kyle Shanahan in the Super Bowl and one of them has to win it?

Like, I'm not sure either of them actually can. The universe won't allow either of them to win that. The thing about Shanahan is like, if you can keep taking Jimmy Garoppolo's and Brock Purdy's to the Super Bowl, I don't think you'll ever get fired.

Yeah, but that's his trick, right? He never takes a big-time quarterback. Therefore, he never gets the blame for when they lose. It goes to Brock Purdy or Jimmy Garoppolo. It's a good trick. It's a good trick. It's got them employed. Can I just, for a quick moment, interrupt this game with the game that I came up with? Ooh, the game within the game. All right, so I want to interrupt Make It or Break It with a new game that I call Hey, Did You Hear?

Oh, wow. A game within a game. Yeah. Can't wait to hear how this one's played. All right. So you mentioned Kyle Shanahan. Hey, did you hear Kyle Shanahan say? Did you hear his name in the game? Yeah. Hey, did you hear his name in the game? Yeah. Hey, did you hear Kyle Shanahan say that Bill Belichick declined a job offer to join the 49ers staff?

He essentially said, you never know. He's a football guy. And I couldn't believe he was a head coach. So I reached out to him. It was kind of like, you can do whatever you want. Hey, did you hear? How are we supposed to respond? That's the thing about the game. Just a yes or no? Yeah, a response. You say like, yeah, I did hear. That's crazy. Or, oh, no, I didn't hear that. That's crazy. I did hear that. So I get a point. You win. I win. I'm a winner.

You win, you heard it. I didn't hear it. I'm glad I'm hearing it now. Bill Belichick, what he wants is Kyle Shanahan's job. I mean, he does. He's not going to be on his staff. I feel like that's the way to get the job, though, right? Is that you kind of go there and then you kind of just undermine him, undercut him. You talk to the owner. You say, you know, I've been looking over what's going on here. I got to tell you that.

The difference here in the championship culture is not the players. Game of 49ers. It's the head coach is really the problem. If I'm going to really break this down for you, it's a good offensive coordinator. You don't want to inject Bill Belichick into that system, I don't think, if you're anyone. Because once he's in, he's going to get his way, I think, right? He's a sweet talker, Bill Belichick. Can we agree on that? Really?

That's what you have. I feel bad for the Manning cast. Yeah, what's the saying? You invite the wolf into the hen house? Sure. You let the guy in the door. That's, I mean... Before you know it, you're out of a job. Don't be surprised when he has your job. Exactly right. I was saying... Dangerous game there from Kyle. Red flag. Kyle Shanahan inviting him into the...

Yeah, it feels a little bit like a panic move. Wow. Panic or calm? A little bit, yeah. Oh, I like that. Panic or calm. A staple. Very exciting. Wait, so you guys are saying that you don't bring Belichick. Does Belichick have a better chance of getting the job if he's on Shanahan's staff or not on Shanahan's staff? Because if Shanahan has Belichick on his staff, they get off to a bad start. Some of that blame goes to Belichick as well, does it not? Hmm.

I don't know. I don't think he's going to come in to be a father. Look at Antonio Pierce. He was there. He was the one that took over, and now he's the head coach. Belichick, I mean, if he's on a staff and there is a coaching change, which there will not be, and I don't think anyone thinks that Shanahan is going anywhere. I don't think anyone thinks that this is a make it or break it year for Kyle Shanahan. But if it was, if it was, and Bill Belichick's on the staff, he would at least finish out the season, right? Yeah.

Then if he turns things around, hey, we were wrong about old Bill. And it's a perfect spot because they're such a talented team that if something happens, that things go off the rail and they fire Shanahan, Belichick can get wins with that team. Belichick would win nine Super Bowls with that team. I mean, they would. So you think the problem in San Francisco is Kyle Shanahan?

I think Kyle Shanahan, there is some pressure for Kyle Shanahan to actually win a Super Bowl. Yes. And if it's not this year, we'll be in the next couple of years. You can't have this kind of talent. And they have the most talented roster top to bottom, I think, in the NFL.

and not win a Super Bowl, and call yourself the genius coach. I mean, eventually, the San Francisco 49ers are going to want to win with this group of players. If he can't win, I would assume they'd look to someone else. Why not look to Bill Belichick? So let's say Belichick goes over to San Francisco, right? And this is some crazy world. Belichick goes over to San Francisco. They were in the Super Bowl last year. They fire Kyle Shanahan midseason. Bill Belichick takes over the team.

gets that he writes the ship gets them back on track and wins a super bowl with the 49ers something kyle shanahan could never do does that sting brady winning a super bowl with the 49er with his hometown team exactly right the team that he you know is connected to for a long time rooted for does that make it sting for tom brady does he then consider maybe coming back

Wow. To one up Belichick. Yeah. Right. He would have to go back to New England, Brady, and win a Super Bowl in New England without Belichick. I love that. I love that closure. He goes, he plays with a different number because his number's retired. So he said, you know what? I'm going to do a new number now. New coach, new number. Old Tommy's back. He wins another one for Mr. Kraft. I don't know why they all call him Mr. Kraft.

Have you noticed that? Because he writes the checks. Yeah, but no one calls him like Robert or no one calls him like Bobby. Bobby Kraft. Yeah, no one calls him Bob. They all just call him Mr. Kraft. I feel like if I'm Mr. Kraft, I'd be like, hey, guys, call me Bob. Feel free to call me Bob once in a while. Exactly. I throw in a Bob every now and then. Mr. Kraft, that was my dad. That's what you say. You always say that. You have Belichick coming back.

So you have Brady going back to New England, wearing a different number, winning a Super Bowl, sticking it to Belichick, and they retire a second Brady jersey? Wow. Okay. So I wonder if in this scenario they're playing against the 49ers in the Super Bowl because then you retire a second jersey for sure. Oh, my God. Then you retire a second jersey for sure. Belichick in the Super Bowl.

I mean, that's a game for everything. How much money would Netflix pay for that game? Well, I don't think that CBS or whoever would just sell the Super Bowl that year. But could you imagine, could you imagine though, like if, you know, this is going to be the biggest Super Bowl ever, right?

And then the company that's broadcasting the game decides, you know what? Putting it up for sale. Exactly right. We're going to turn this into a VRBO for the week. You get the game. Just pay us rent. Jeff Bezos versus Netflix. Who gives out more money? 10 years of revenue for selling one game. It would be like a $20 billion game. Is there a bigger game you would want? You did stumble upon a good idea, though, I think.

I like the idea of no television network having the rights to the Super Bowl, seeing what the matchup is, and a bidding war. And a bidding war. Ooh, an auction. You know that that would be a thing, right? They'd make that a TV special. It'd be the Super Bowl auction. I'd watch. So you'd have it. We're going to start out with the Pro Bowl games. Who wants dodgeball? Who wants dodgeball? And then you move your way up.

you talk to the representative for cbs yeah why are you doing it as an auctioneer well because it's it's a super it's a super bowl auction you put out the super you start out with the little things like oh we have the pro bowl we have you know whatever other you know theatrics yeah you bring out bruce buffer he says let's get ready to rumble and then the auctioneer he starts doing the bidding and then the guy from cbs is like dejected in the corner he's like oh man i really thought i had him at 25 billion and then then

Bezos comes out riding a horse. He's covered in armor. He's like, this is mine. And then he like beds, boom, 50 billion on the Super Bowl. I do love that. Yeah. This is great. So let's play it out. Let's assume Brady did come back. Belichick went to San Francisco. Kyle Shanahan was fired. And it was Niners-Patriots. How high do you think the bidding would go to get that game if you're in that war? More. 10 billion on the war. The answer is more. More. More.

Now, logistically, it seems very difficult to do this. I will admit. It seems this would be a very quick turnaround from championship weekend to where are we airing the Super Bowl. But, you know, what are you going to do? This is why you play. Hey, did you hear?

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Stu Gatz, we have a number of games to get to today. I know that I'm a serious man. I think most people would agree I'm a serious man. I like to get to business. I'm not a man about games, but we have a lot of games to play today. We have a top five from Fuentes. We have more Mike Lee to get to. Did you just open a window? What happened? I turned the light on. Sorry. Okay. No, it's okay. So anyways, I have a story that made me go, hmm.

This week also, if you want to get to that at some point, we have some headlines we can get to. We have a number of things. Oh, NFL.com is releasing the top 100 players. I don't know if you saw that. Very big week. Right now we have 100 to 70 have been released. So we know 100 to 70 of the top 100 NFL players.

Who is the 70th best player in the NFL according to this list? All right, so you want to go to number 70, you said, the top 100. Okay, give me a second. Are you thrilled that you're number 70 on that list? I think that, you know what? I got to be honest with you. We have 100 to 71. 70 comes out in the next round, but I will give you number 71 if you'd like. Number 71 on the top 100 is...

Laramie Tunsil. Really? Yep. Up 14 points from last season. Gas mask hit. Hey, Stu. 72 was Garrett Wilson. Get out.

I have Tunsell 54 on my list, so I disagree with that. He's one of the best tackles in the game. All right. Dolphin legend. On my list. Can I tell you? Let's Miles call you back yet? No. I'm just looking here. Can I tell you who number 75 is? And this is where things get interesting. Really? Number 75, Justin Herbert. Down 43 spots from last season. Fair.

It's fair for him to go down 43 spots. What has he done? Yeah, he had a bad year. At number 79, we have someone that dropped down 61 spots from last year in Minka Fitzpatrick. Yeah.

If I said to you that Justin Herbert two years ago would be on a list of top 100 players in the NFL, it would be that far down the list. You'd be shocked, right? Yeah, I think so. You figure he'd be top five at this point. He's supposed to be. Yeah, I know. That's what they're telling us. We were told he would be. Billy's not a fan of Herbert. I don't know if that's, you know.

Fair. He's not a fan of everybody talking about Herbert, I think. That's closer to fair, I think. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I have one for Frentz that he's going to love, and I have one for Stugatz and Mikey that they're going to hate. Okay. Where's Aaron? Do you want the one that you love or the one that you hate? I want the one that we hate, okay? The one that you hate. Yeah.

dropping down 41 spots to number 92 on the top 100, Aaron Rodgers. Oh, my God. Surprising he made the list. You know what? I actually like it. I like it. I don't want the expectations to be too high. I like that. I mean, people are predicting them to go to the Super Bowl. I need this. That's good. I'm fine with that. Let Aaron climb up the rankings. Aaron Rodgers. I hate that he didn't play in a full game or a full series, actually.

actually and he's still on the list anybody needs a chip on their shoulder it's yeah yeah he loves a chip on his shoulder he does love a good chip on the shoulder well here's the thing guys and uh fuentes this actually may be sad news for you this person went up in the nfl top 100 moved up two spots to number 94 on the list trevor lawrence

About where he is. Yeah, that sounds about right. That's crazy. In the 90s. Exactly where he belongs. And he improved. He's going to make a career of being in the 90s. He improved two spots to 94. Just signed $50 million a year. On the rise. Crazy. Anyway.

Doug Peterson 45 years he'll be in the top 10 Doug Peterson now or never I mean yeah now or never that's another game you forgot the name of the game but that game works now or never this one is better I don't the thing is with Doug Peterson I don't think there's ever a never there's always a next with Doug Peterson I feel like once you get a Super Bowl there's always like when's the next yeah right

He got his Super Bowl and was fired two years later by the team he won it for, though. Yeah.

Are there people still calling Bill Cower every off season? Like, oh, maybe this will be the job that'll bring him out of retirement. I would say I want to put together a top five list of coaches that teams are still calling because not only do I think I believe they're calling Bill Cower, they're calling Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells as well. Okay. When, let me ask you guys a question. When there is a coach firing, let's say a firing happens right after a game, right? Yeah.

So Sunday happens, one o'clock game happens. We're in week like 10 of the season or whatever. And it's like, OK, this person is out. We need an interim coach now. And then like the I don't know, Fox NFL Sunday or CBS NFL coverage happens. Who do you think whose phone rings first? Like if the phone rings, who do you think grabs their phone first? And that's one that's ringing for the new coaching hire.

My guess would be Cowher. You think Cowher is always like, he's just ready for the phone to ring? Yeah. And who do you think is the person that's looking at their phone and they're like, is the reception bad in here? Like, what's happening? Why aren't they calling me? Yeah, what's going on here? Well, I don't think Jimmy Johnson cares enough anymore to be that guy. I think Jimmy is the guy. I think people call Jimmy and he's like, when are you going to learn your lesson? I'm not coming back. You made the same call for 15 years. I'm done with this. I feel like Jimmy has a price.

You don't think Jimmy has a price? No, I don't think him or Coward do. Really? Bill Belichick is the one who keeps looking at his phone. Bill Belichick is the one looking at the phone. Bill Belichick gets a phone and they're like, oh my God, Bill, we have this game that's going to be on Netflix. You want to break down some X's and O's on Netflix? No, I want a coach. Damn it, stop calling me for broadcasting jobs.

He's going to be working every game of every network. He's going to have more jobs. His days are going to be longer breaking down film for all these analyst gigs that he has hoping to get the next coaching job. Nick Saban definitely has a busy phone when somebody's fired. Do you think Nick Saban got calls this offseason? For sure. Do you think Nick Saban got NFL calls this offseason? Oh, no. I'm sure he got the tires kicked a little bit.

Like, hey, you know, it's been a while. You know, why don't you, you know. What about Nick? Yeah. Arizona's nicest time of year. You guys really think Nick Saban has another coaching gig in him? No, I just say he's getting calls. No, no, no. No, Billy, I believe that an NFL organization this past offseason spent some time kicking the tires around on Nick Saban and whether or not they should make a call to him. That I do believe. Yes. There was at least a discussion before the call.

at least. Right, right. But no call was ever made. No call, but they had a discussion about, hey, who can we call? Nick's available. Would you think that Nick Saban would go to the NFL again? Absolutely not. I don't think so either. Well, you said Jimmy has a price. You don't think Nick has a price?

Nick had whatever he wanted in Alabama and he walked away. I think that Nick walked away because he knew the walls were closing in on him and he knew that he lost. I don't want to say he lost his touch, but it was a different game, right? So the longer that he went that he wasn't able to adapt and win at the game that was currently happening, the more people then questioned his, I think, greatness of all time. I have a question. Do you think that Saban ends up winning the national title that year? Do you think he still retires and says, hey, this is...

Not for me anymore, even though if he wins it last year, you're saying, yeah, like he would have been like, because he went out in the top four, right? So he would have, he was, they made it to the playoff last year, but perhaps the worst team he's had. And so he wasn't that far away. So you think if they lost to the national championship, he would have won the title. He would have been like, I'm out anyway. No, no,

No, you don't think so? But, Billy, I will say this. The one blemish, I guess, on Nick Saban's resume is his NFL coaching career, was his time with the Miami Dolphins. And so maybe there's an itch that he wants to scratch. Like, hey, I'm a good coach. I'm a good coach at the college level, at the professional level, and I want to take another crack at it. Maybe. I'm just saying. You don't think if Dallas calls? If Dallas calls next year. Yeah, it has to be the exact right situation with the right amount of talent. Yes. Oh, boy.

I mean, Billy, if Nick Saban got a call from Jerry Jones to coach the Cowboys, you don't think he'd be interested? I don't think that Nick Saban is going to correct his shortcomings 20 years after his failures. Yeah, I think he already accepted that. Yeah, I think he knew like I'm OK being the best college guy ever. Yeah.

He accepted it, made up for it. He overcompensated. And by the way, he was so good at it that like people will just call him the greatest coach ever. Not even like say college specifically. Like he's the greatest coach ever. We have him in like sitting around with great NFL coaches despite never winning anything in the NFL. When you think of the greatest football coaches of all time, Nick Saban and like maybe one other college guy. You put in that list and that's it. I mean, I think Belichick.

No, obviously. But you're saying college. Right. You list all these great. No, he's saying the greatest coaches ever. If you if you list if you had a Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Right. Saban, Belichick and Shula. I guess he's saying maybe another. Yeah. But Shula. Well, he's still the most winningest coach in history. Have you heard of Bill Walsh? I mean, that's what I'm saying. But you're going to put Nick Saban in like this great football coach thing, even though he wasn't really great in the NFL is what I'm saying.

Right. Oh, man. I do think it bothers Nick that he couldn't have success in the NFL. I think that bothers him. I'm not saying he's going to coach again, but I think given the right situation, like the Cowboys, it's something he would consider. He'd kick the tires on. Right?

I remember talking to Herm Edwards before he took the Arizona State job, and we asked him if there was a job he would go back to the NFL. He says, no, I wouldn't take no teams. I don't even answer the phone. And we said, what if the Eagles call? And he stopped and he went, my wife would have to say no to that one.

And I think that's what the Cowboys are for saving. I think he'd say no to everybody. But if Jerry called, he'd be like, Miss Terry, you're going to have to say no. No, I don't think so, because he would want the full autonomy. Like, he would want to do everything, and there's no way Jerry's giving that up. Doesn't matter. No, but if you're Jerry and you're calling Bill Belichick, you're giving him everything. That's the deal. When you call Bill Belichick, you give him everything. How many old guys you know want to give up power? I don't know too many. Huh.

Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. I'm trying to more likely I'm trying to find here and I wanted to surprise you guys with it, but I'm trying to find here and we'll play more likely because it's going to take me a while. I'm trying to find the college equivalent of Nick Saban's NFL career in terms of win percentage.

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So we didn't get to more Mike Lee last segment because we got distracted and then started talking about a world in which Nick Saban came back and coached in the NFL to prove to people that he was a great NFL coach, even though he kind of failed spectacularly the first time around. So anyways, Mikey, I apologize to that. The floor is yours for a new game of more Mike Lee.

Well, I appreciate that, Billy. And just for that, we'll start with more Mike Lee for you to want as your next head coach. Dan Campbell or Matt LaFleur? Hmm. Dan Campbell. Just because you like him? Yeah, just because I like him. Matt LaFleur prefers me. I mean, both those guys aren't going anywhere. Well, of course, but. Right. In the more Mike Lee world they are. I would take Dan Campbell. I'm with Billy. I'd take Dan Campbell.

You guys want the leader as opposed to the X's and O's guy. I want a guy that kind of projects football. Yeah. Dan Campbell does that. I want a guy that does anyone project football more than Dan Campbell? No, no, no. I want. Yeah, I want. I want all of Dan Campbell. I will say this. I have like a personal rankings list of winners and losers once we removed COVID masks.

And Matt LaFleur was on my list of winners after we removed COVID masks.

Because before you would only see half of people's faces when they had the COVID mask. Matt LaFleur, winner. Oh, and when he took it off, you realize what a good looking man he is. Kevin Stefanski, loser. Right. Yeah, but Dan Campbell never wore a mask. That's why I want him to be my coach. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that's actually accurate, but I believe. I'll go down that path with you. It's just the way I imagine it. I have no idea. His coachee was his mask. You had him just punching COVID every time he saw it. Ha, ha, ha, ha.

Whoops. You just kicked the microphone. We're good. Are we? I have no idea. Me and Billy are taking Dan Campbell. That's who we're taking. Fuentes, you got an answer? Le Fleur.

I think I'm with you. I think I'm with you. Now or never for LeFleur. Wow. That's a question. I mean, I mean, seriously, he's been to championship games with Aaron Rodgers. Now he has a great young quarterback who's sitting out because unlike Tua, he knows how to negotiate and do business. I mean, now or never. Hmm.

I mean, now that Jordan Love is something, we didn't know if he was something before. Well, something or nothing. This is a big year to find out. Let me tell you, we're rolling with the games today. Big year to find out something or nothing, and then if it's nothing, who's to blame? My favorite part of the show so far is in the second segment, Billy goes, I'm not a man of games, when that's literally all we've been doing for the past three weeks. Always.

That's part of the game. I do what needs to be done, whether I'm a man of games or not. Sometimes if I'm asked to become a man of games, I'll become a man of games. But those that know me know I'm not a man that's a man of games. You're a serious man. Listen, we're just filling time until the games actually start. The real games. I think that this is just filling time. I think that we're doing a quality program here. Matt LaFleur is my answer. I agree. Yeah, okay. More Mike Lee.

More likely to get his contract issues resolved by the start of the season. Tua or Stephen A. Smith? Wow. I mean, Stephen A. is a guy. He will negotiate, and he will negotiate some more. He will take his time. Stephen A. is not getting taken advantage of because he's too nice, the way Billy says Tua is. That's what I'm saying. So Stephen A. will take his time, and he will get it exactly right. Tua's going to accept whatever the hell they give him. So...

That's my answer. So you think Tua is going to get his contract resolved quicker than Stephen A? Yeah, just because Tua wants to play football. He's a nice guy. He wants to be there. He wants to play quarterback for this team. And therefore, he will take a contract for a lot less than he should take. Yes. Yeah. I'll go to a two, I suppose. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, Stephen A. loves this. He loves the negotiation. He loves the public negotiation. This is going to drag out for years. I'm kind of using it for the chase. Yes. I'm kind of in on Stu's like the dolphins are waiting for Dak thing.

So I don't think Tua... Because if you're the Dolphins, you've already... You would have signed him already. Correct. So you're waiting around for all these guys to get paid, knowing every one of those guys that get paid. Tua led the league in passing last year. So he has the most leverage in terms of what I've done, if you're going to do that. What does Jordan Love have to stand on? He has one year with the NFC Championship game. It was an up-and-down year. But Tua led the league in passing. He has all the legs to stand on. You're still not giving him a deal. So the Dolphins are like, well, he's going to play whether you pay him or not. So we might as well just...

wait around, see if Dallas fumbles a bag, and then you're in on that. Because if the Dolphins... The Dolphins can't just punt on Tua, because punting on Tua means you're punting on Tyreek Hill. That means you gave Waddle all this money for nothing. So it's like...

I don't know. I think – DAC and free agency is going to cost a lot more than Tua resigning. No doubt about it. But the sit-and-wait game is a dangerous game because keep in mind, Fuentes, maybe they start one and three, but then Nick Saban takes over. That's true. But if they call Nick Saban, Nick Saban's like, oh, I'm going back to where it all started. I'm going to take my knee to the promised land. Mike McDaniel's crying in an airport somewhere. Right, and then DAC wants to stay in Dallas. And hey, Nick Saban and Tua, relationship. Right. Whoa.

Oh, wow. Mind-blowing. Look at you. This is what more Mike Lee's meant to do. I will say this. He did lead the league in passing last season. It was a bit of a down year in terms of league leaders, in terms of passing. It is the lowest passing yards per season since 2017 when Tom Brady led with 4,500. He had 4,600 in 2023.

But just leading the league in passing in 2019, Jameis Winston led the league in passing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And in 2020, he was on the Saints. So what you're saying is the Dolphins need to call Jameis Winston if this Tua thing doesn't work out. Let me tell you something. Electric. I'm a big Jameis guy. I love Jameis. Billy loves Jameis. Now, Billy, I believe Jameis was replaced by Tom Brady. Big Jameis guy.

Yeah, I mean, that'll do it. That's a good point. That'll do it. That will do it. He also led the league at interceptions. I know. Man, it was a year. What a ride. It was a roller coaster year. What a ride that was for famous Jameis. You got to pay to play, you know? Yeah. Anyway, more Mike Lee? Yeah. Okay. More Mike Lee to repeat as their version of player of the year. Christian McCaffrey or Miles Garrett? Ooh.

That's a good question. I'm going to say Myles Garrett. Why? I feel like his job is just dependent on him being a beast and dominating guys one-on-one where McCaffrey needs a lot of things to fall into place. He needs a decent... And he's good at that. Yeah, he needs some good blocking. I mean, the scheme is there for him. I thought he was going to be the MVP of the Super Bowl if they would have won.

But I think Miles Garrett, more likely. I'm going to say Christian McCaffrey, not because you said Miles Garrett, and I want to go the opposite way. That offense is set up for McCaffrey to be the guy and to have big years, especially with Brock Purdy as the quarterback. So I'm going to say McCaffrey. I am going to say Miles Garrett, and you're going to think I'm crazy for the reason, but I was going to do it because of health, which is crazy because Miles Garrett always has –

an injury history. He always has a little nick, though. He always has a little nick. McCaffrey does as well, by the way. He's been injured throughout his career. McCaffrey has some bumps and bruises along the way also, but I'm going to go with Myles Garrett. We have one more? Yeah, sure. More likely to be on their current team next year. T. Higgins or Brandon Ayuk? This year. Next year.

2025 season. They're not getting traded. They're not getting cut. Oh, so we're hopping in the time machine. 2025 season is what you're saying. Yep. Looking ahead. We're already on to next season, huh? Looking ahead. I can't get to this season quick enough. I mean, you're on to next season? I'm going to say Ayuk. He'll stay with the Niners? I think he will. And it's not for the reason that you might think. I don't think that it's going to be because he's happy. I think it's going to be because of, I believe, private conversations that we've had here. I think Stugata said it.

Who is he to be making trade requests? I'm pretty sure that's the comment that's gone around. Like, let's make a top five list of people who shouldn't be making trade requests. And he is on the top of the list, as you have said. So I think he will be on this team. Not very happy, but he will still be remaining on this team. I'm going to go T. Higgins because who the hell would lead Joe Burrow? I'm going to say Brandon Ayuk just because T. Higgins...

He's already franchise tagged. Jamar Chase is in front of him. Jamar Chase is not going anywhere. If you're going to give a receiver money, it's going to be Jamar Chase. It's not going to be T. Higgins. And also, T. Higgins said this might be the final ride. So...

All those things together. He said he might be the final ride. That's negotiating right there. He's a negotiating employee. I am a T. Higgins guy. But when you have Jamar Chase, when you have Chase, that makes your job easier. If T. Higgins thinks he's a number one, maybe he goes elsewhere. That's what I think he's doing. I like being a number two. I like, let Jamar Chase have all the attention and expectations. Have T. Higgins over here playing with a great quarterback. He stays there.

I want to do a new game. Oh, it's called. Can I ask you guys a question? I like this. Yeah. Yeah. I like this game. And yes, you can. Can I ask you guys a question? Is requesting a trade worth anything anymore? No. I remember when players used to request a trade and then it was like, well, we got to trade them now. And now it's just like,

it's the next step of deleting all the stuff on Instagram. Like, it seems like it's just a nothing thing. That's my favorite move. The deleting everything on Instagram. Well, yeah, that's everybody's favorite. It's so stupid. It's the first shot though. It's always the first shot. Like, Oh, wait a minute.

This player might be unhappy. He deleted all the stuff. That's and then the negotiation. Yeah. If you if you want Bleacher Report all over you, just delete all your stuff on Instagram and take take the Baltimore Ravens out of your bio. All of a sudden it's on fire. Yeah. If you're the person that like is searching the bios to make sure that Baltimore Ravens is still on it, get your priorities in order.

I think there's an intern that walks into the Bleacher Report office in the morning and they're like, hey, we need you to check every player's bio. Get something to do. Make sure that... It's too much. It's too much. Anyway. You think a general manager has ever said, hey, he deleted us from his Instagram? I do think... John Lynch is walking around. Oh, no. I do think there's... Oh, no, guys. McCaffrey deleted us out of the bio. I think there is a general manager. I don't know which one. Who does that? I think there definitely is one that's like, uh-oh. Guys, red flag. We're in trouble now.

Guys, oh my god. You won't believe it. It would have to be a younger one, right? Or an older one that just doesn't understand how easy it is to do that. And then just restore it immediately. Oh my god.

We have Billy's story of the week to get to. I'm very excited about that. We have a Fuentes top five to get to as well. And we have some other stuff as well. But Fuentes, when do you want to do your top five? Do you want to do it now? Do you want to do it next segment? Well, we got a minute left in the segment, but then that's going to leave a lot to do in the fourth segment. So we have to filibuster here for a minute. Okay. Or we can just go to the next segment. Let's go to the next segment.

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All right, running out of time here on Godless Football, so we're going to jump right into my top five, and it's top five teams I'm worried about headed into training camp, as we know. Wow, that's the top five I was hoping for. You teased it earlier. I was hoping. All teams have reported. All teams have reported training camp. Worried how? Can't wait. This is great. It's beautiful. We're going to start with the number five, Cincinnati Bengals. Ooh. Okay. Okay. You guys saw Joe Burrow's haircut? Yeah. Yeah.

I agree with you. You know what? I was thinking, why the Bengals? They should not be in a top five. Anyone's top five teams they're concerned about because the talent is so, the roster is so loaded with talent. But I did see Joe Burrow's haircut, and now I do agree with you. I am concerned about the Bengals as well. Questionable haircut. Not his wrist, not his calf, his hair. Got it. Coming off an injury with that haircut. T. Higgins on a tag. Jamar Chase has some contract stuff. Zach Moss in the backfield. Joe Mixon's in Houston.

A little worried about Cincinnati Bengals. For those who haven't seen his haircut, he looks like Eminem in like 1999. Correct. So last week we spoke about buzzing your hair, and since then it's been bleached as well. Yeah, buzzed and bleached. Yeah. Concerns. Concerns. Number four, the Buffalo Bills.

Right? Yeah, the Buffalo Bills. The narrative the last few years, get Josh Allen help, even when he had Stephon Diggs. And now he has Marquez Valdez-Scantling, Mack Hollins, rookie Keon Coleman, Khalil Shakir, and Chase Claypool. You know what? You're right. He has less help than he's ever had. Not great. Yeah. Number three, the Minnesota Vikings. Don't say it. They locked in Justin Jefferson, but I don't know. J.J. McCarthy. A guy? Hmm.

Is McCarthy a guy? New game. Guy or not a guy? How about that? Sam Darnold we know is not a guy. Don't you say a bad word about Sam Darnold. We don't know if Sam Darnold's a guy yet. You have to see him play somewhere else other than New York. He's like on his fourth team. There's still a shot. And Carolina. Yeah, and San Francisco. Right. Other than that, though. Other than that, though. Exactly. And the Packers are rising. The Lions are an NFC Championship team. The Bears have gotten better.

Worried about the Minnesota Vikings. Why are you defending Sam Darnold, Stugatz? He feels like he's still a Jet. Because he's not Zach Wilson. That's my reason. He's starting, by the way, as well, I think. Number two. The Los Angeles Chargers. Wow. Do you know who their big offseason signing was at receiver this year? They drafted a kid. They drafted a kid from Georgia, Ladd McConkie. They lost Keenan Allen. They lost Keenan Allen and they lost Mike Williams. And Mike Williams. So who was their big splash in the receiver pool this season?

Ooh. DJ Chark. Oh. Signed DJ Chark. They also got the broken pinball machine parts from the Ravens, Gus Edwards and J.K. Dobbins in their backfield after losing Austin Eckler. So if Jim Harbaugh can find a way to make the offense tick, Coach of the Year. Okay. Is DJ the number one in Los Angeles? No, I'd probably say it's the rookie kid.

Okay. I'm just thinking about fantasy drafts, you know, just because it's number one or two. Shark is going to be taking 10 rounds before he should be taking. They still have Everett, right?

The tight end, Gerald Everett, right? I can't believe DJ Chark would be the guy. No, they still have the other guys too, the guys that nobody really cares about. What's his name? Palmer? Well, they got the first rounder they drafted last year, Quinton Johnson. Yeah, but rough times for the Chargers offense. Number one, we've already kind of talked about, my Miami Dolphins, not because of Tua, even though that is a big thing, but the D-line is in shambles. Pass rush is not there. They had two guys suffer season-ending injuries.

Chubb coming back from an injury. He's going to be back late. I don't know what Jalen Phillips is going to look like. They just re-signed Ogba, who they clearly didn't want, and they only signed him because Shaq Barrett retired. So it's, it's, I'm worried about the pass rush.

so all right my five fraudio right we did we got rid of fraudio but you know a chef's only as good as his ingredients wow i do like that because those are five teams that have expectations yet you're saying that you're still concerned about them yeah i mean i'm i'm sure that you can move around the top five but i'm the dolphins the dolphins defense gets concerning

You do not know the rules of a top five. Once you set it in stone, you cannot move it around. For all eternity. No. Let's get to Billy's story of the week. It has turned into my favorite segment here on God Bless Football. All right, Stugatz. This week's story of the week. Are you ready for it? Yeah. And this is going to go into consideration for story of the month.

If you remember last week's story. Good. It's a weak month. Yeah. Well, you haven't heard the story yet. Come on. This could be a great story. You never know. So if you remember last week's story of the week, it was that Patrick Mahomes and his wife were expecting their third child, and Patrick announced this would be it. This is the last child that the Mahomes family would be having. Now, this week's story of the week, going up against that one for story of the month, is Lamar Jackson and Troy Aikman are in a legal battle over the number eight.

Troy Aikman recently tried to set up a trademark for the word eight E I G H T so that he could use it on, you know, different things. And Lamar Jackson, there are reports that he sued Troy Aikman and other ones that just that he has kind of put in a, a complaint about,

against the a notice of opposition at the u.s patent and trademark office because he thinks that people might get confused with troy eggman using the trademark eight thinking that it is him so stugatz one number eight is kind of in a legal battle with another number eight so that there's no confusion over who is number eight a couple of number eights cutting it up yeah yeah

You think they should just split the difference and both get four? When you hear the number eight, who do you think of? Do you think of Troy Aikman or do you think of Lamar Jackson? Or do you think of someone else? I happen to have a list of top five athletes to wear the number eight of all time. Wow. Perhaps that will settle it. You'll find something within there that will settle this debate. Do you have any OLIs on that? I don't. I just have a straight five for you. Oh. Some would think maybe a top eight of the numbers.

the number eight. Yeah. How did you not do a top eight? Number eight. I'm sorry. I have these top five lists. I was not prepared to do a top eight. I'll, I'll add three names to it. If you'd like me to do it. No, that's okay. Don't worry. It's all right. Don't worry about that. You're top five. It's not too late. It's never too late. Don't tell me it's too late. Lucky us that you just had that list handy.

I know that's what I'm saying, but it's not a top eight list. It's a top five list. But if you want me to add three, I can add three. Okay. I'm happy to do it. Why did you have that, that list waiting by you? If you don't mind me asking. Um, I just, I have, it's, it's always by me. You have all the numbers. Yes. I have all the numbers. You go to number 22. I have it for you. Emmitt Smith. There you go. Oh,

All right. Okay. OLI, by the way, Yogi Berra. How about that? So you do have an OLI. Wow. Yogi OLI. Yeah, I want OLI. Even though I said I didn't have one five seconds ago. Number eight. Number eight, Willie Stargell. Number seven, Joe Morgan. I'm so confused. Hold on a second. You had a top five. I said, are there any OLIs? You said no. Just a straight top five. And then I said, you think you have an eight? And you said no, only five.

And I felt bad because you were disappointed. I didn't have eight. And now I wanted to give you eight. Now you don't want eight. You're giving, you're now giving us nine though. All right. That's, that's a fair, that's a fair point. Is your top nine number eight? Wow.

That's an odd list to have handy. It is, but I'm glad you had it. All right. What was number seven? You know what? Forget you. I'm doing top five. Straight five. No, no. Number five. No, finish top nine. I can't go back again. Now I need to know what seven and six are. Okay. I messed up. I didn't mean OLI. I meant number eight. So whatever the first name is that I said, I think it was Yogi Berra. He's number eight on the list. It was Yogi Berra. It was. Yogi Berra is number eight. Number seven is Willie Storgill. How about that?

Number six. Number six is Joe Morgan. Number five, Ray Guy, the greatest punter of all time. Number four, Andre Dawson, who won an MVP. He had no business winning on a last place team with the Chicago Cubs, but still a great number eight. Hall of Famer. Number three, Carl Yastrzemski. Yes. Number two, Lamar Jackson. Wow. And number one.

Kobe Bryant. Ooh. Wow. The greatest number eight and the greatest number 24. Troy Aikman not even on the list. That's right. That should tell you all you need to know. Get out of here, Troy. Troy Aikman is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in the history of the NFL. I'm sorry. He is. God bless football.

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