Hour 2: Greg Cote Holds His Breath For One Minute
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Cleaning a couple things up. Boof Bonser was never brave. So it was just an acquisition that I made in MVP Baseball that just stuck with me and it was kind of like Mandela. Where did he play? I think he was a twin. San Francisco, Minnesota twin as well. Buildsubmarines.com is a slick effort by the Navy. As if the armed forces spending in NASCAR has gone well, they decided to go back to that well. But it does seem cool. I think I'd like to build submarines over, you know, fight in one. Yeah.

Submarines are a bit terrifying to me. I don't like the idea of them. I would get claustrophobic in something like that. It would seem I wouldn't trust a submarine. Seems like a really stressful work environment, especially if you get like half an EAS.

are you manning the submarine? I mean, are you in a Navy submarine? I'm manning the submarine in that I would be a man in the submarine. But what if I told you for like near a million dollars, I can get you and about six of your friends in a private submarine to see the Titanic?

I thought you were going to end with Bigfoot. Controlled by an Xbox. To see Bigfoot under the sea with Jose Canseco. Logitech. Put up the photo of Mike Ryan with Pitbull. It's one of the better costumes we've ever had around here. I do not blame Pitbull for being very excited that someone would come that close to recreating him. You told me I was, quote, crazy for this one. Golly. It was a seminal moment in this show's history.

I want to, Greg, you had already given us the- Do you think I can fit in that suit? Oh, no.

Oh, no way. No way. You are correct. That's right. How does a suit not fit after eight years and 40 pounds? It's a terrible feeling. It is not great. Someone do something to my suit. Greg, you did go to buildingsubmarine.com. You reported the news before, Mike Ryan, that this was a lovely website, that you thought it was ingenious advertising. I think it's a brilliant ad campaign. I really do, because the idea of building submarines is fun.

It's a go-to website name. If nothing else, you want to build your own submarine, you know, I mean, Elon Musk builds rocket ships. Why can't I build my own submarine? I, uh, I have been disappointed today. As I said, I wanted to start this long-term relationship with Armando today. I wanted it to have legs today, but I am certainly used to around here. Uh,

hearing a lot about wonderful and great ideas that never end up happening. One of them that I thought was ingenious, Billy, this was your idea. And then I don't know what happened. I went on vacation and it hadn't happened. We had a billboard possibility here all over South Florida that would have been, uh,

You would have done a QR code on a billboard and you would have gone to it. It would have just been that. And it would have just said something religious about, you know, saving somebody or and and then you would have just gotten inside and it would have been.

Connor McDavid is not a savior. He's overrated. That's what would have been inside. We would have had billboards all over South Florida. I thought it was going to be executed while I was gone. What happened? Well, so this was going to happen. You left. It was going to happen in Edmonton because we got turned down by Edmonton by multiple people. Yeah. So then what was going to happen is we came up with like an acronym, right?

and the letter spelled out choke and it was gonna be on a board and it was just gonna be like very vague in a QR code and it was gonna be like healing, emotion, like things like that to maybe entice people that are looking for salvation to click on this thing and then once they clicked on that,

We were going to have also a fake website to get it by the campaign. So there'd be a fake website. And then once we announced it live, we were going to change the website. And then I was going to say about how much of Conor McDavid is not your salvation. He's a choker. The old Peyton Swift. That was going to happen in Edmonton. And then what ended up happening is then we put our efforts into finding a billboard in South Africa that you were going to see by the airport with Greg Cody's face.

And we were trying to figure out when you were going to drive by the airport to see Greg Cody's face. What a great joke. Yeah. And then what ended up happening is we just got like six around South Florida. No, we got a couple here. The price was right. It was free, I think. What ended up happening is we didn't do anything. But we looked at South Africa to have Greg Cody surprise you on vacation. Inspired. You get points for the idea. No, you don't. All we do is have ideas that we don't complete around here, including meeting up with

Pitbull today. But no points for having one? No. We should interview Boof Bonzer. That's my contribution. How about this, Dan? Can we finish that story? Two points.

Yes, I would love to interview Boof Bonser. I would also love to interview today someone talking about produce from a produce section somewhere that can tell us whether or not it's okay to break ginger in half. I would also love for somebody to bring in pickle brine so that Greg Cody can drink it during the show. But none of those things will actually happen. Don't forget Steve Korter. We need him on the list. Well, I have something you might like, Dan.

It's a segment that you're always talking about and we haven't done that many times. Gas bag of the week. You want to do that? Yes. Please let's do. Finally. Thank you. I want to win this. Gas bag of the week. Who is our gas bag of the week? Gas bag of the week. Graffole has been turned into this obsequious sniveling. I don't know if he's been turned into anything. This absolute Uriah heap thing.

Where, oh, Jerry's a great man. A great man who wants to win. He's a great man. I think that he's always been that. If you talk to people who know Pager or have known Pager Griffo, that's one of the things that I was told to look out for. That he's a clown.

Just an inveterate suck-ass. And this, oh, Jerry's had tough decisions to make. It's not a tough decision to fire your dumb ass. That's an easy decision. He doesn't make it because they don't want the aggravation of having to slide somebody else in there and maybe give somebody a bump in salary. You're paid no matter what. Put Pager out of his damn misery already.

That's Dan Bernstein of 670, the score railing against the Chicago White Sox who have now lost 21 straight. That's actually led to our first ever follow-up video on the gas bag of the league because things are not going well for the Chicago White Sox at the moment, Dan.

That means Pedro is 100 games under, 500. Yes. And he got the job. He's 100 games under. Oh, boy. Yeah, that's tough. I got to go to psychology tomorrow. I got to go to the doctor. Psychologist. No, I do. I have to bring my – because a few years ago, I was happy. Now I'm bitter and weird. You're bitter watching this team play? No, just like a –

Because I don't think I was the bad manager when they picked Pedro in front of me. I got to see a secretary. I'm drinking a lot. You are. I have problems with my wife a lot. The only people who get along with me is my grandkids. Everybody else, I hate them. I don't know why. Maybe that's why. I swear to God. I'm not playing around. A lot of people, I know, I thought like, I was beating myself like, my God, I'm this bad?

Then I went to manage in Venezuela. Come on, I go, wow. Yeah, yeah, I won a championship. I'm not up in the others on my city score. It's like, holy cow. I should be embarrassed. Wow. Ozzie Guillen can't be the gas bag of the week. He won a championship with the Chicago White Sox. Congratulations to Dan Bernstein, 670 the score.

looking like one of the parents from the Beastie Boys party for your right to fight. What is it? Fight for your right to party. Nailed it, Dana. Yeah.

You're fine, though. That is a fine. J-Lo, you are a fly girl. He's wearing a Beastie Boys shirt, and he looks like he's one of the parents from the original Beastie Boys video. And I am now the age where I can't remember what the name of that song was. To be fair, Florida is a right-to-fight state. Thank you, Jessica.

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This episode of the Dan Levitt Art Show with Stu Gatz is presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly. The Smirnoff Company, New York, New York. Over the next couple of months, we're going to have some big announcements around here that are going to be fun and exciting. And over the next couple of months, we're also going to lean into some things that we probably haven't done a ton of before because of the nature of where America is. Hassan Piker is going to join us, Stu Gatz.

He is a he is on Twitch eight hours a day and he's become a new and popular and influential political commentator. And I have told the audience before that I don't talk about politics around here. I have all my life talked about race. And then that ends up becoming politics because now everything is politics.

politics but over the next few months we're going to try and get you some voices and some angles from people who's breathing so hard is that you cody who's breathing hard into the microphone i'm breathing very easily it doesn't sound like it you sound a little strained in general that roy you're with me on this right even him saying i'm breathing very easily sounded like it was coming through a cheese grater yeah that doesn't sound easy huh okay

I tell you what, when I'm not speaking, how about I go like that? Or you could just breathe quieter. Stop breathing. Not stop breathing. Nobody here wants that. Nobody here wants that. We all dread that day. Don't stop breathing, but you could breathe a little quieter when the microphone is right under your beak. Okay.

I'll take the blame for that. The mic is probably too hot on Greg. It's not Greg's fault. Greg's doing a great job of breathing. Good pace, good in, good out. I'll turn down his mic a little bit when he's breathing. I think that it's just turned up and the mic's a little too sensitive. Greg's doing a great job today. Thank you, Billy. The whole time he's breathing? No. We'll play it by ear. Okay.

Figure it out. I can hold my breath. How long? Not very long. Let's not do that. I'll hold my breath for like a minute or a minute and a half. You can't do it for a minute. Oh, yeah. Really? Back in the day. I think old Greg Goat back in the day used to go underwater in a pool and hold his breath longer than any other kid around. Yeah. Sounds like a Cody Olympic event. But, um...

Greg, you can't and shouldn't hold your breath for a minute. We can try it if you want. It's his breath. I don't think it's safe. Why don't you do it? Practice it on your drive home. No, no, not in the car. Not in the car. Bad idea. No, no, no, no, no, no. Driving around in his Corvette as a weapon. I haven't fainted in months. Don't worry about me. Yeah. Why don't you just hold your exhales for the moment? Okay. Then we'll try one at a time. Hold it.

exhales and then we'll hold the inhales. Here's the thing, Billy. I'd be for trying this. This has been happening more and more around here. I'd be for trying as an exercise from the maker of a staring contest on his audio podcast, The Greg Cody Show. That was a good one. I would be for just sitting here and watching him hold his breath for a full minute. And I assure you, he's not going to be able to do it. I don't think he's going to be able to do it. But the problem...

The problem with any exercise with Greg Cody is that I just asked, can we get some pickle brine in here for next week so that he can drink some pickle brine? And he's like, ooh, I'm on a lot of high blood pressure medication. I don't want to. HIPAA? Jeez. It's dangerous. Well, he's right. It is dangerous to drink a bunch of salt. Even if you're not on high blood pressure medication, you drink pickle brine, you're going to need it afterward. Yeah.

Yeah, my doctor says I need much more sodium in my diet, so I guess I should drink more pickle juice. Now, we're on blood pressure medication, like about 40% of everyone is. Put it on the poll, please, at Levitard Show. It seems like you ran out of breath there. Well said. 40% of everyone. At Levitard Show, is 40% of everyone—no, this is about when he starts to fade, yes— is 40% of everyone on high blood pressure medication? Yes or no? No.

Stugatz has a couple of top five lists that are ready to put a bow on some of the things we've done today. One of them is top five players in sports who connote die. Yes, dice. The plural of dice, not hair dye or not people dying, like Greg Cody would do if he held his breath for a minute. And top five...

People in sports who connote through their name produce. Yes, something you would find in the produce aisle at a supermarket. Right. Not production. Not what you think of as production in sports. Produce. Like ginger from Gilligan's Island. Like Al Banana.

Like ginger that you crack in half. Ginger that you crack in half. Albanana. Let me scratch him off. Yeah, you got to get rid of the albanana. Sorry. Jose Cilantro. Albanana. This is not how you play the game. But it's just produce? Like it can't be Jared Mayo? I don't know. That's a condiment. That's a condiment. Different category. That's things you would find in the supermarket in general. We could play that game. Well, what about juice that's next to the produce? Ooh.

No, but it's not produce. Does Bill Raftery count? Onions? Not what we're doing. Let's see. Let's see. Which one do you want to do first? I just thought of a good one. Let's do produce. All right. Top five. Let's see if yours is better than any in his top five. Let's see. Ready? No, you wait until he...

Why would I want it? This is a man that can hold his breath. I'm telling you. Come on. It's noon. He's sharp as a tack today. Sharp as a carpet tack. Mm-hmm. Have you noticed that this is when you tend to deteriorate on Tuesdays? Or have you not noticed this? I'm just peeking. Yeah.

Number five, Stugatz, or do we have any OLI? Nope, just a straight five. Is this just sports or all of entertainment? These are top five people in sports, athletes, who connote something you would find in the produce aisle at a supermarket. So no Gene Shalit. I mean, you say people in sports. That's produce. Coaches, like you just said athletes there, so you need the... At this point, just giving the five would be quicker than all of these. Number five. That's true. Kelsey Plum. Number four. Eli Apple.

Number three. Cleo Lemon. Number two. Don Cherry. And number one. Daryl Strawberry. A fine list. Greg Cody, do you have any better than that? Yeah. I had Bob Lemon not knowing he was going to do Cleo Lemon. I had an audible to Ralph Pomegranate. Oh, Ralphie. Good list. Thank you.

Thank you, everyone. So your ad lib off of Bob Lemon when you scurried away because he stole it with Cleo Lemon was to go Rob Pomegranate. Ralph. Oh, sorry. Yeah, come on. That's another five. Rob was his little brother. My bad.

It's such a bad, it's just such a s*** joke you love to make. What? I've never said the word pomegranate on your air before. You've been making it for 50 years. You changed someone's name to Al Banana. You've been making it, they beat you to it with Al Banana. I know, he did. And you come back on the back end with Ralph Pomegranate. Ken Palm. Yeah!

Not the same. Five top five players, athletes, people in sports who connote die. Number five, Stu Guts. Andrew Luck. Number four. Jermaine Dye. Number three. Antrell Roll. Number two. Roll the dice, Dan. Dice K. Yeah, I got it. Oh, nice. I got two. Number one. Antonio McDyess.

Cardale Jones. Oh. My list. Yeah. Oh, well, I. It is his list. Do you have something else that you wanted to get to? You're still staring at the list. I'm staring at Antonio McDyess because when he played, that's all I did was stare at Antonio McDyess. He's just one of those guys you stare at when he's playing basketball. He was chiseled, man. He was very muscular. John Bones Jones. Oh. Oh.

I counted, by the way. Greg did the 60 seconds with no breathing. He just didn't want to distract anyone. No, we can do that, Billy, if you insist. You're the executive producer today, and it's going great. And if you want to just stare as we wait for Hasan Piker, you get everything out there and the clearing out of everything of your fine breathing? If I'm going to do it, I have to enter a zone. Can you get near the microphone, please, when you're talking? That's my fault. I turned it down. You won't hear me. No, you didn't tone it down. Just...

like a professional, Greg, at the end of a workday, pretend like you're still here broadcasting and working with us. Okay. I know you checked out as soon as we promoted your podcast a bunch of times, but stay with us here.

You want me to hold my breath or no? All right. We're going to do this then. I don't think it's a good idea, but I don't think you realize how long a minute actually is. So we're just going to sit here and stare at the clock as you try to hold your breath. Wow. Are you ready? At the 16-minute mark, you try and hold your breath for a minute. We're just going to stare at you. I think this is a terrible idea, and I think you're going to try and cheat. So they said about landing on the moon. Five, four, three, two.

Two, one. Greg is holding his breath presently for four seconds. He's smiling. There's a smile on his face. Don't make him laugh. What if a nostril moves? Because I can see him cheating under these circumstances. No, he's doing fine. Those nostrils are substantive. They could sneak air without us realizing it. Potentially. Is his chest moving?

No, I don't see any chest movement. No, he's holding it. No, he's doing great so far. You're halfway there, Greg. 30 seconds. Only 50 more seconds to go. What if he's dead? No, he's not dead. He's there. I can tell. He's got a lively look to him there. Oh, oh, oh, oh.

He's in the zone. He closed his eyes there, but that's not cheating. Was that him grunting? No, it wasn't him. 53 seconds, 7 to go, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. And Greg has done it.

History has been made. Greg Cody held his breath. This is the part that we have to worry about, though. Did you feel like quitting at any point, Greg? When were you worried? When did you get worried? You said 90 seconds. You could do 90 seconds. I was praying that the minute would be up. Oh, incredible. When? Like, when did you start praying?

Well, when somebody said seven seconds to go, I had to really work for those last seven seconds. The last seven are always the hardest seven. That's what they say. If this were 2020, we would be able to diagnose that you do not have COVID right now. Wow, really? B.

Big day. You guys don't remember when that was a thing? It was like, if you can hold your breath for 20 seconds, you don't have COVID. Really? How about that? We all just memory hold it. I did. As I said, we are going to get to Hasan Piker. We are waiting for Hasan Piker to get here. Eight hours a day on Twitch, huh? Somebody does more than us. Eight hours a day on Twitch, twice as much is what we do. And the political commentary keeps giving you like the...

Every day gives you more and more to talk about. It is something that you can, if you have some fluency on the subject matter, you can spend eight hours a day talking about just how weird everything in America has gotten. But before we get to him, I wanted to ask you guys if anyone has been able to verify that.

whether or not Snoop Dogg is being paid an exorbitant amount of money for being the Olympic mascot the way he has been being around everything and helping Peacock sell these games in a way that was that was and is smart I would assume that you would have to pay a

a substantive amount of money to get Snoop Dogg to be this kind of symbol and salesman on behalf of everything that Peacock is doing to garner attention. And I told you when I was talking about LeBron James and the marvel of what he is doing at his age, Stugatz, that LeBron James is the second most improbable story to see at the center of these Olympics from America at his age. Snoop Dogg, from a murder trial, his 30 years of relevance...

I dare say, unlike anyone in the history of hip hop and hip hop is, you know, 50 years old and there are plenty of guys in their fifties, but nobody gets to be this. Like he has done commercials like with the, I think it was like about Lee Iacocca and AOL. And I was surprised to see that like 15 and 20 years ago to see him go and be that mainstream for him to cross over from hip hop and some of,

I mean, when you're coming from death row, Stugatz, Ice Cube has been in and out of public favor because his politics and assortment of things people find objectionable. Nobody gets to be beloved.

this long from hip-hop and go from murder trial to this kind of Olympic mainstream. It's just a super unusual story. The reports are, and this is according to Forbes magazine, is that Snoop is getting paid $500,000 every single day plus expenses.

He's worth every penny. Can you tell me when you say Forbes is reporting that? Because the way that I had heard that reported, I did not like the credibility of the report. Claimed he heard it from an NBC executive? That one? Well, who claimed they heard it from him? Overheard it.

Henry McNamara, one of the world's most influential young entrepreneurs, according to Forbes, claimed he heard from an NBC executive that Snoop is getting paid a half million dollars a day. It's a flimsy report, it feels like. You gave it to Forbes, and you gave it the weight of Forbes after we had a conversation about the credibility of a Deion Sanders story, and it was just overheard at the Olympics by an entrepreneur is different than Forbes is reporting it.

That's fair. My apologies to Forbes. I just don't know how much that would actually be worth because I would imagine Snoop Dogg would not be cheap. Some people have theorized that this is just part of a promotional effort because he's part of The Voice show, correct? Which is also very popular. And so I don't know what any of this would cost, but I would pay a substantive amount to have...

I just can't believe I'm saying any of this. The whiff of this marijuana smoke around my Olympic events. Like the idea that he has outlasted the stigma, the American public stigma of just nevermind murder. Um,

murder accusation, a murder trial, the stigma of marijuana that he's outlasted it. It's one of the greatest stories in the history of American pop culture. No joke that this guy gets to fit in in every environment he goes to, whether it's at a fencing event or whether it's running with death row. Well, Flavor Flav is also charged with attempted murder and he's there too. So, right.

This guy, Henry McNamara, said that he sat next to the NBC executive at dinner. I mean, this is reporting. This is a good time to mention to our audience, don't commit murder because if you're innocent, look what you can become. Just to be clear also, because there's a little bit of confusion there, I think

marijuana is not as serious as murder because there seem to be like things that we've forgiven it seemed like we're putting them on a level playing field I don't think that they are equal well one of them he was not guilty of one of them he is guilty of murder not guilty marijuana smoke 30 plus years I mean life in hip-hop is always about you know tearing down preconceived notions it was the great Dan Levitard who once said you got a party

You do. For your right. To fight. Yeah. That's a public, somewhere in there was a public enemy song that I was mixing it up with because they did do it. No, they did. They have a lyric somewhere, fight, it's not a party for your right to fight. They have fight the power. Something like that. No, I'll trust you on this one. Trying to sound older, huh? Yeah.

I'm going to find it. Where? I am. I'm going to find what it is that I was mixing that up with before the end of the show and perhaps as soon as we find Hasan Piker as well. We're going to get to Stugatz's weekend observations here at some point as well. But I have still not gotten it. We started the show here.

And I'm scared this late in the show to go to this because when we started the show here, it ended in a place where Greg and Stugatz were deciding that they get to decide who's American in this country. Whoa, we never said that. Greg did it. But off of Stugatz's unpopular opinion yesterday that got him in trouble with a lot of people because he went after Simone Biles. Come on.

Greg Cody also has some Simone Biles opinions that I believe to be controversial. I don't know if you're going to wade into the waters as deep as Stugatz is, are you? Well, I just want to quote something she tweeted, and it'll always be Twitter to me, not X. Simone Biles said, and by guys, I assume she meant fans and media. She said, you guys really need to stop asking athletes what's next after they win a medal at the Olympics. Simone.

You're in a profession that attracts attention and publicity. You're the GOAT. You're the all-time greatest gymnast. You've hinted that you may continue, not retire, and be back for the L.A. Games in 2028, but you haven't made that definitive. It would be negligent for fans not to wonder and for media not to ask, what's next?

So don't go on Twitter and take great umbrage and insult that anyone would ask you what's next when that's one of the big stories in sports. If you're still doing this at 31 and still winning another gold medal and the GOATdom continues for four more years, huge story. Everybody wants to know. Someday people will stop caring about Simone Biles. Don't hurry that day. Hmm.

Jessica has dropped her head in her hands. I'm off the hook, it seems like. Ha ha ha ha!

there is great shame all around us now. And on top of that, you're breathless. I regret not going to immediately going to you after you had held your breath. I could hold my breath for a minute and a half now if I wanted to. Oh, boy. But I don't. Let's do that. Let's do that now. You're still really. Jessica, why did your head drop into your hands? It was like such a profound take from Greg. I admired how seriously you took that. Gold medal for Greg today on takes.

It's a take. What can I tell you? Do you guys want to hear any of Public Enemy's Party for your right to fight? No, thank you. Jesus, man. I have it right here on my phone. No? You guys are good? I think we don't want our YouTube video taken down for that. Or to see you try to find a way to play music off your phone. I doubt that.

You found this song. I did find it. I got it right here. Oh, he does. Not the traditional way. What do you mean not the traditional way? Go to iTunes. Just sing it like we did with Lucy. Well, I had to find it first. Go to Spotify. Go anywhere. Come a few bars.

iTunes. It's going to load up your shuffle. It felt old as it came out of my mouth. I got to be honest. But Mike, look where he went. Google. I was just looking for the lyrics, Dugatz. I was looking for... You can't make fun of me and come at me with iTunes. And then you guys missed what Cody did, which is hum a

Hum a few tunes. No, a few bars. That's the expression. Hum a few bars. Exactly. Bars of what? Hassan Piker's here. People don't hum anymore. Spinoff knows there's no I in football. It's a we thing. An experience best enjoyed together. Whether you're home or away, we rally together. We cry together. And we always rally cry together. Because in fandom, there's definitely no I. Spinoff is the perfect vodka for crafting delicious cocktails that are easy to make and versatile for any fans over 21.

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And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like, you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz. You know, you don't got to do that. Oh, that would be a great call. Up, up, and away. That kind of swing, that kind of thing. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats.

He's one of the most influential political commentators out there. It really is hard to find anyone that breaks things down, complicated things down better. He streams every day, as I told you, for eight hours. And the news every day seems to provide for you even more than eight hours of information. There are a number of things I wanted to talk to you, but thank you for joining us, Hasan. I appreciate your patience there. Thank you for being on with us.

Thank you for having me. I hope you guys can hear me well. I am currently at a basketball. I'm currently at a park. This is usually my basketball hour. And it's the it's the one time of the day that I have a little bit of time to myself or take my dog out and I actually play, you know, run some drills that I found on tick tock.

so that I can stay competitive with these young guys out here. It's a 33-year-old man, so I apologize for the backdrop if it's a little weird and unorthodox. Hasan, did you ever get those shoes that were designed to help you jump higher? Ooh, the eSpace shoes. Yeah, the ones that had little platforms at the bottom. Did you ever get those for your basketball training or no?

No, I never did. But I was talking to a content creator. I was on the Creator League that RDC put together, Creator League at DreamCon in Austin a couple weeks back.

And I was talking to one of the basketball content creators out there by the name of YPK Ray. And he was telling me about how he has like this insult. Now the kids, they have this insult. They put on their shoes that makes them make some jump. But no, I got my dusty Kyrie Irving's here. I got a bunch of them. When, when he got,

When they canceled the shoes, I went and bought a bunch of them on clearance. Because when I wear, I'm a big boy. So if a shoe works for me, it's like, you know, I wore Hyper Dunks for like 10 years after they were discontinued. And, you know, it happened to be that his shoes, they fit really well for me. So I went and bought a bunch of them off clearance. Yeah.

Any parallels between you trying to keep up with the young man in a young man's game and you in the content game trying to keep up with everybody during a crazy political time? Not necessarily. I'm a bit of a dynamo. I'm honestly pretty solid when it comes to my endurance on the court as well for a 33-year-old guy.

I work out quite frequently. But as far as like the content sphere goes, I mean, I'm a one-man operation. So, no, I mean, I don't see Jake Tavern doing eight-hour streams every day. You know, that's who I'm competing with. Or when it comes down to it, like if I look at the content space, it's like I'm never going to be able to do the stuff that like Kai Sinat's doing. You know, he's just – he's in an entirely different playing field. He's a very entertaining guy. I love him. He's great.

But, you know, my lane is politics. I try to merge the two. I try to merge the entertainment and the politics stuff together. And I hope I do a decent job at it. But, you know, overall, there aren't that many hours in the day for me to be able to do even more than I'm doing currently. Yeah.

We are getting you on here before you are starting your workday, so I don't know if anyone's heard what your thoughts are on Kamala Harris naming Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her VP candidate. What are your thoughts there?

Oh, I love it. I'm very excited about Waltz. Waltz is a fighter. He's done a lot with a very slim majority in the state legislature in Minnesota. And I've been, you know, I've been riding for the Democratic Party in Minnesota for quite some time. So I'm actually very excited about Waltz. I definitely think he was a better choice than Shapiro. A lot of people immediately think, oh, is it because of Israel or whatever? No, like...

Like, while it's also, you know, going to be pro-Israel, most Democrats are. In general, that's American foreign policy. My frustration with Josh Shapiro was actually because he was pro-school vouchers. Like, he worked with the Republicans in the state.

When he became the governor to push for a school voucher program. And I think that that's, you know, that's very right wing for me. I don't really I don't really I don't really like that. I think that's immediately it spells that you're anti teachers union. And, you know, that's a pretty solid, pretty important constituency for the Democratic Party to to Moss, on the other hand, is a teacher.

So I'm very excited to hear how he will communicate a more progressive agenda for the Democratic Party. I think they actually have listened to the voters. They've been doing a lot of good things these past month, especially. They've almost become this competent party that I never really experienced. I never really thought they could be. You know, it's been shocking. And the Republicans are kind of flailing around because they also don't know how to deal with a competent party. I think they've gotten too used to

you know, running, running against someone like Joe Biden. I think they got too used to running against unpopular candidates and unpopular policies in general. So we'll see what happens. Hassan, you mentioned popularity and I, I've noticed that recently, at least in terms of eyes and attention and maybe word on the street,

you're a bit of an outlier in that you're more progressive, but you're sharing those progressive views on platforms like Twitch and other various accounts of social media. I've noticed there's a bit of a sea change from just four years ago in the last election cycle. It almost seems like there's a conservative community

concerted effort to appeal to IG lifestyle pages. And we saw Trump on a highly popular Twitch stream yesterday. What do you make of this very clear strategy from the GOP?

Yeah, I think they kind of lucked into that. I mean, obviously, Donald Trump is always going to be doing stuff like that, regardless. That's unique to Donald Trump. J.D. Vance tries to do it with the Milk Boys. It's not going to be the same, obviously. But in terms of the Republican Party kind of leaning into this lifestyle stuff, you're absolutely on the money on this. I think the manosphere grew quite a lot organically online, and this kind of pendulum swing occurs regardless.

you know, you got a democratic president in charge. All of a sudden people are going to go back to the regular old culture war issues. It's something I called immediately. As soon as Joe Biden became president, I was like, we're going back to the culture war stuff. It's going to turn into like Gamergate era politics. Everyone is going to be talking about trans people, this trans people that, you know, things that actually don't, uh, things that actually don't, don't touch on the pocketbooks of any Americans. It's not exactly a kitchen table issue. We are

We are very dominated by right-wing culture war narratives in this country. And I think it stems from the inability of the Democratic Party in actually addressing some of the economic problems that American families are facing. And their lack of interest in actually doing something bold and brave in terms of like...

declaring a bold and brave progressive agenda, an economic agenda. There are some good things that the Democratic Party did, even under Joe Biden, despite the fact that I'm very critical of Joe. And I think they should continue along with that so that we can move away from these, like, I...

I can't believe I'm going to use the term that the Democratic Party is now using, but weird. These weirdos who are constantly focusing on really marginal, really silly, really inconsequential things, making it the primary concern of every single person. There's this sweatiness to it. There's this nervousness to it, this anxiety to it. It's like frequently imagining that there's probably a trans person behind every corner. It's like,

I don't get it, man. Just like let people live. I care about expanding child tax credits. I care about eviscerating child poverty. I care about health care. I don't know. Like these things are going to help you, too. Like, I'm pretty sure most Americans would agree at the end of the day if the Democratic Party actually ran on that.

Instead of constantly picking up a, dare I say, cowardly posture and trying to always run defense after the Republicans end up dominating the political conversation in every issue, whether it be the crime hysteria, whether it be the immigrant crime hysteria and the panic that they cultivated. Instead of capitulating to the right wing framing, if they actually ran on very progressive policies and said, like, you want health care or not?

Like, what are we talking about here? I think more Americans will be on board. It seems unusual given the depth of the things that plague America that what is working now is the very accurate, you're weird, running on a platform of they're weird over there. Yeah, but it's true though. This is true. It's honestly, like, I think it's much better than just talking about how scary they are, how authoritarian the Republicans are. Because like,

Do they present a genuine threat to American democracy? Potentially. I think so. Definitely. But that actually gives the Republican Party like a sense of

a sense of power, I think. And this actually deflects, this actually neutralizes that power and just says, no, dude, you're weird. Like you're, you're odd for hyper focusing on this sort of stuff. And I think that that is the, I mean, that's something I've been doing for years. I call it hogwatch.

I'm fascinated with Republicans in general. I love, I love my countrymen. I love watching them in the wild. You know, I love, I love watching the way they operate. Uh, I've been doing this for years and years and years. And I've noticed that like, uh, you know, they've gotten increasingly more nutty on the timeline, especially with like social media becoming more right wing with like Elon Musk purchasing Twitter. I heard you say you will never call X. I agree. Um,

I will never call X either. Elon Musk purchasing Twitter, making it more right wing, like making it overtly more right wing and putting so much like violence on the timeline to above all else. I think that this has created this false sense that Republican policies are actually more popular than they are. They're not.

Like most people don't care. Most people have never met a trans person. They don't think about trans people all that much. They probably might think like, oh, it's a little weird. Like, I don't really understand this trans stuff. I thought it was only two genders, whatever. I'm moving on. I care about being able to pay for my groceries. But there's a lot of people on the Republican Party, especially in the commentary sphere that.

that have just broken their minds on this issue where that's all they care about. They're like, I don't care about anything. I want to make sure that we're melting like this 0.1% of the population. I want to do harm to the 0.1% of the population. It's like, dude, that's odd. Like, why do you, why do you care? You care more about trans stuff than trans people do. You know, I, I have trans friends. I have plenty of trans members in my community. They don't think about the latest and greatest and,

in trans technology or trans culture in the same way that like a Ben Shapiro type does. It's like, it's so strange. Like let people live. But it's an easy winning position for your base if you're always perpetually focused on demonizing others so that you could protect white power. So that anyone who's different from the norm can't get to equality. Yeah, no, absolutely. I think it is. I think it is.

I think it is a very children yelling in the park. I think it is a very, uh, you're right. I mean, it's, it's an old narrative. It's a cliche. They do it all the time. They used to do it for gay people in the nineties. And then, you know, that became legal and normal with gay marriage. Then they had to move on to something else. They had to move on to trans people. And now the narrative is, is exactly still the same. Like for trans people, they say the exact same stuff that they used to say about gay people in the nineties. Um,

But ultimately, I think you have to set up a counter to that. You know that this is going to be a talking point. And if you're the Democratic Party, you've got to give the right something to sink their teeth into. Right. You can't be constantly in a defensive posture against the right. You actually have to go forward with a bold agenda so they can call you a socialist. And then you have to talk about why that bold agenda is not necessarily bad. And it's actually good for Americans. Right.

Like, free lunch and free breakfast at schools. Tim Walz policy, right? He passed it. He passed it in Minnesota. It was phenomenally popular. You think Republicans don't want their children to get free school lunch? Of course they do. Of course they like that. It's ridiculous. I mean, it's incredibly too... It's entirely too costly to take care of children in this country. Many people can't even think about that idea.

because they just don't have enough money. We have two income households that still can't take care of children and have children. Child care is entirely too costly. One aspect of that is free school lunches. That's a good policy. Let the Republicans yell about how that's actually socialism and how that's bad. If you put forward a bold progressive agenda, if you actually get some shit done on the progressive side, sorry for cursing. I don't know if I'm allowed to do that on the show. That's fine. Go ahead. That's okay.

In front of the kids, though. Yeah, they can't hear me. It's all good. But if you get stuff done,

uh republicans are going to inevitably try to uh position themselves against that stuff and these things are very popular ideas that that are are helpful for for all americans right so that's part of the reason why i i think it's uh i mean i fall to the democratic party a little bit for where we've gotten to in terms of the discourse here but it's not like republicans

just started yelling about trans people. It's not like Republicans just started saying that like immigrants are doing crime and they're rapists and they're drug dealers or whatever. They've been saying that because they know that they have to, they have to actively campaign every day for four years and not every four years. Whereas Democrats, on the other hand, only campaign every four years when they remember they have to run for office.

And then they're like, whoa, whoa, this stuff, uh, this, this immigration stuff, maybe it's gotten a little too out of hand. Maybe the Republicans are right, which is the dumbest thing you can do. Um, I, I, I've said this before. It's like, you got abortion, you have democracy. Those are like two major things. Now with Kamala Harris, obviously, uh, being the candidate and not Joe Biden, you also have age, uh,

You have instability of all these stuff, all these things. You can also talk about how progressive Kamala Harris is in comparison to to Donald Trump. These are all these are all in the pocket for you. This is your this is your strong suit. Right. Play to your strengths. Never talk about immigration. Never bring that up. Joe Biden should have never done the right wing immigration bill. They should have never capitulate the right wing framing on immigration. Democrats historically have always done things like this. They always tack to the right, but they always end up losing.

They always end up losing because that's their strong suit. That's what they're good at. That's what the Republicans are good at. I don't know why you would – like, if you're LeBron, you don't have to play chess. You can do the dunk competition against, like, a grandmaster. You know what I mean? I don't understand why Democrats are like –

I'm LeBron, one of the greatest athletes of all time. And no, I'm actually going to play chess instead of the dunk competition against the grandmaster like like Picard or Magnus Carlsen or whatever. It just doesn't make sense. Can you explain this part to me, though? Because Kamala touted a right that right wing immigration bill in Atlanta last week, too. Like, why is it that that that seems to be the point that both parties can agree on? I mean, the stuff with the deportation, it's it's a bit crazy, right?

A bit crazy. I mean, it's very crazy. And Donald Trump is talking about Eisenhower. He's talking about a word I can't say because it's a slur in the aftermath of the CERA program where we deported 1.3 million Mexicans from this country, including Mexican-Americans, as a matter of fact, not just people from, you know, not people whose nation of origin is Mexico. We did that.

We did that during World War I. We did that in the aftermath of World War II. And Donald Trump's touting that as a popular policy. And it's got like 60 percent approval right now. And a big part of the reason is because there's no counter messaging against that from the Democratic front. They have completely been captured by the right wing framing on the matter. And obviously, it's very racist, very fascist. I mean, it's just like straight Nazi Germany stuff.

No one is thinking about like what 20 million, let's say there's 20 million migrants in this country that are undocumented. How do you, how exactly are you going to do the mass deportation? You're going to go start going into Brown neighborhoods with Bortak, with

with the American Gestapo, Special Weapons and Tactics for the Customs and Border Patrol, in what the ACLU calls Constitution Free Zones. And you're going to start doing door knocking operations and cast a dragnet over brown communities and then put them in Seacott style like in El Salvador, like mass violence.

detention centers mass deportation facilities you're going to put them in front of one judge 200 at a time because there's 20 million people that's a lot of people right you have to make this process as expedient as possible so now you're putting 200 people at a time in front of a judge that is declaring them to be illegal then you have to put them in concentration camps i mean that's just straight nazi germany stuff and i don't think anybody's talking about it on those terms we

which I find to be abhorrent. I find it to be morally repugnant. But to have agreement with like the, neither one of the parties is being reasonable here. It's just, it, everyone's getting dragged over to a place that like, I mean, what is that? How is it that we've arrived there? Like that, that is not anyone's idea of America in principle. Yeah.

I know. And Americans are actually not of one mind on this. Immigration historically is one issue where Americans are like consistently both very sympathetic to migrants on and also very Hitlerian in the same breath. Like these are if you look at focus groups on immigration, you'll be shocked like a person.

will unironically say, I want mass deportations of all migrants living on U.S. soil. And in the next breath, we'll say something along the lines of, yeah, we should do amnesty, actually, for everyone that's been here. And it's like, how can you have these two opinions? That's because the Democratic Party is too scared. They refuse to actually have any sort of counter-messaging on this front. And they just capitulate the right-wing framing every single time. They

It's completely born out of hysteria. It's straight Hitlerian on the Republican side. And what's happening in America right now is not dissimilar to the rise of Hitler in Nazi Germany in the sense that liberals also capitulated to in an effort not to adequately put up a strong fight and align with the communists and align with the trade unionists, align with the socialists against the rise of Nazis and the rise of fascism in Germany.

They, you know, they said, no, this guy is working within the confines of German politics. It's fine. And we all know what happened afterwards. It's called the ratchet effect. The Democrats regularly play the role of almost controlled opposition on a lot of issues. This one being one of them. It's the same with the bipartisan consensus on American foreign policy. This is basically which I would consider to be fascist in general.

but no one really cares about that. And this is fascism inward, like bringing fascism back domestically, having concentration camps for people that don't look like you, that people who's

whose immigration status could be quickly and expediently dealt with and turned into documented U.S. citizens who are already participating in the American economy in incredibly meaningful ways, people who statistically are less likely to do crimes than natural-born U.S. citizens. A fact that Democrats should be saying every single day of the week. They should be put in that front and center. It's just completely made up. This hysteria about migrant crime is completely made up. Crime is down.

Crime is down in America across the board.

Crime is down. It readjusted back to the lowest levels that it was at pre-pandemic. And it's only going down further and further. So the idea that we have tens of millions of migrants crossing the border and they're doing crimes is so silly. It's like, okay, migrant detentions are up. Crime is down. So what's going on? Is it that they're just doing less crime? Is that what it is? Well, it turns out that is actually the case. All available empirical data on the matter shows online

Undocumented immigrants are responsible for less crime per capita than natural-born U.S. citizens are. I'll give you another fact. If you were to listen to the Republicans, the Republicans constantly talk about— Sorry, my dog is actually sitting. Hey, Taya, sit. Baby, sit.

That's a good dog. We haven't heard that dog once yet. What kind of dog are we talking about here? That's a good dog. I'll show you. I'll show you her in a second. So the one thing that, what was I talking about? You were saying you were going to give us one good fact. You have one good fact that we need. You mentioned Hitler a lot too. Oh, I did mention Hitler a lot. Unfortunately, that's where we're going right now. We're bouldering towards that.

So, like I said, Democrats should constantly be talking about the fact that there is no readily available empirical data to suggest that immigrants are doing more crime. As a matter of fact, the only available empirical data shows the exact opposite of that reality. So it's a pure Republican hysteria, Republican panic. And it's really racist panic. One other thing I'll tell you is this.

Donald Trump talks about immigrants are responsible for 100,000, hundreds of thousands of deaths every year. That's what he says. He says that at his rallies. He says that as the RNC. I've never heard from a Democrat be like, yo, hold on. What are we talking about here? That seems like a big old deal. I've never heard a Democrat go. That seems insane to say. Let's take a look at the data. Well, I did look at the data. Customs and Border Patrol data shows. Do you want to know how many?

Do you want to know how many murders undocumented migrants committed this past fiscal year? Yes, I would, because I did see what John Oliver did on what you're saying there, that migrant crime is a total fiction. There is nothing to support it. It's just a made up phrase. Yeah, it's completely made up. You want to know? I'll tell you what it is. I looked at the data.

23. So that means and we've definitely heard 23 horrific, gruesome things that an undocumented citizen has done in this country. So that means that every single instance of a murder committed by an undocumented migrant was heavily publicized in this country in an effort to make you think like they're doing crimes every day. This doesn't mean that like undocumented migrants are responsible for zero crimes. Of course not. Everyone, they're human beings.

Some human beings are going to do good things. Some human beings are going to do bad things. We're all a victim of our own circumstance. But you have to look at like if this is how to deal with crime, you have to look at the entire group of people and see if they're responsible for an overwhelming share of the crime. And it turns out they're responsible for less crime.

It's actually insane that we have this conversation. Donald Trump tries to link the undocumented murder rate. He tries to claim that it's 100,000 because he tries to claim that it's fentanyl. It's actually the fentanyl that they're bringing over the border. Another total fabrication, completely made up. 90% of drugs that are coming across the border are apprehended. This is the Department of Homeland Security's own data. This is not woke media.

Marxist Hassan making this up. This is the Department of Homeland Security.

Okay. So according to the DHS data, and this was the same under Donald Trump, it's the same under Joe Biden. It'll be the same under Kamala Harris or whoever becomes president. The Department of Homeland Security's own data shows 90% of the drugs apprehended at the border are not actually like border crossers, right? It's not a law-abiding abuela from Guatemala who walked all the way to America or tried to cross the Rio Grande River, like,

carrying bags of fentanyl over the border that would be insane that's an unsustainable business that's an unsustainable operation you know where you know who's actually trafficking the drugs white american citizens that are crossing over the border after getting their cars chopped up by the cartel of course 90 of the drugs are apprehended at regular points of entry according to department of homeland security's data and more than 90 of those apprehended are american citizens because they're the ones who are less likely to get stopped like

Like, we're the Millers. That's it. This guy is full of s***. He doesn't know at all all of the fentanyl-carrying abuelas we have in Miami. And you look like Miami. You were briefly in Miami. I think he's there now. I've been to that park. I know that park. It looks a little like South Beach, but it is not that park. It's not the park in South Beach.

We've got a couple of questions on the way out. We've got a couple of questions. We need to see the dog and we need to know what kind of basketball drills you were doing. I follow a bunch of TikTokers. This is my dog.

First of all, here she is. This is Kaya. That's a good girl. She's a very good girl. She's the best girl. She's a little baby still. She is only around 18 months. But she's very well trained. She's a big dog. She's a mutt. She's a mix between Chow Chow, Tibetan Mastiff, and a St. Bernard. That's number one.

Number two, what kind of drills do I do? Honestly, it's been a while. I haven't played organized basketball at all in many, many years since high school, as a matter of fact. That's multiple decades at this point, almost. So...

uh i just look at tick tock whatever pops up on my tick tock feed i see like uh you know there's those guys good drills i post good drills i forget what that dude's name is but um you know they'll always have some drills on there and then uh i try to do some of that stuff so that i could be a little bit more explosive in my old age because unfortunately i'm a little too slow i'm six four i'm 230 pounds six four and

Yeah, I'm entirely too slow. You know, this is like, what is that? That's like a shooting guard status in the NBA, right? Yeah, Steve Kerr was 6'5". He's going to post you up. Steve Kerr would have posted you up at 6'5". Can you dunk? That's what I'm saying. I used to be able to. My knees are pretty bad. Come on, give it a try, go.

I wear knee braces. I can't. Maybe today's the day, though. Yeah, you never know. Good talking to you. I will tell the people. You can follow his Twitch channel at HasanAB as in boy. Thank you. Good catching up with you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Have a good one, guys. Thank you, sir.

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