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Is today Thursday? Because I think I misread this calendar. That's what I'm talking about. I thought today was Thursday. I wish today was Thursday. The 400 meter final hurdles for women is Thursday at 13...

1525. Well, hold on. 1525. What time is that? 1525. But 1525, they're 1525 or are 1525? I think it's all 1525. It's our 1525. See, but that's the thing. Isn't it all the same 1525? That's why we do it? Because it's 24 hours? I've never been on 1525. You think that's

Hold on a second. Wait. Guys, you clearly don't know how it works. Tony's going to explain to us military time here. You clearly don't know how it works. So everyone is on the same time in the 24 hours? Yeah, everybody's on the same time. It's just obviously time zones differ. But is it their 1525 or is it our 1525 or is it both 1525s? I don't know.

When it's 1525 here, is it 1225 in LA? Wait, Stugatz and Tony, what time do you guys think 1525 is? Right here. If I tell you here, it's 1525. That's where the hurdles are. What time? Tomorrow, though. Hurdle time. Tomorrow. It's hurdle time. Okay, very good. I know what time it is, Dan. You know what time it is? I do. It's time for Against the Spread. Against the...

Well done, man. I wanted to beat him to the punch there. Damn. But of course, he doesn't have the computer working. Dan, as you mentioned, it's time for Against the Spread. And it's sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours.

What do you guys got? Who is betting what on Against the Spread? Are you guys ready for Against the Spread? We have a couple games today. I have a game. Tony has a game. Stugatz has a game. I believe Jess has a game. And I think Roy may have a game. You have a game? You have a game? I do a lot of games. Oh, okay. All right. We'll start off with Tony.

Guys in men's hoops here at the Olympics. Host country, France. Got the little twin towers working with Wemby and with Rudy Gobert. They are plus five against the German national team. I like the home dog here. I mean, everybody's in France. I don't know what they say, but go France. I'm taking plus five against the spread. I'm taking France plus five. Home cooking. Hopefully they can get the refs a little greased. What? What?

Who said that? What? France plus five. Against the spread. Against the spread. Two guts. The White Sox are hot. They play the A's today. They've won one straight. One of their last 24 games.

I am going to ride this team. No! I think it's one of their last 22. Whatever. Because they had a 21-game losing streak, and then they won one. So 22 of 23, they lost 22 straight. But you know what happens. Never has a team lost 22 straight, come out of that losing streak, and then not won more than two or three games straight, ever, in the history of baseball. It's never happened before. A team that has a 22-game losing streak,

Whenever that happens. It's a 21-game losing streak. Whenever that happens, 20, 21, 22, it doesn't matter. What they do is they win the next two. And so this is the second one. The White Sox plus 64 at roughly 1525 today. The White Sox plus 164 against the spread.

What time is that? Accuracy still matters. 1525-ish. Roy? Olympic women's basketball. The United States of America is playing Nigeria. And the spread right now is the United States are favored to win by 28.5 points. Wow.

Yeah, that's a lot of points. So that's why I got to go with Nigeria. It's just too big. Just too big. What happened the other day in the United States men against Puerto Rico? Puerto Rico was a 33-point dog. Who ended up covering that? Juju was advising that we bet Puerto Rico in that spot, and I don't know how that game finished up or what. It was a pretty big blowout, if I recall. But I don't remember the number. You don't remember whether it was 33 or not?

Billy, do you have one here? I do, Dan. Doubleheader today in New York, the Yankees and the Angels. In the first game, we have D. Daniel versus Luis Davis Daniel, that is. Now...

He had a nice performance his last time out. A bit of a rough patch before that. Two bad games. He gave up seven earned runs and four earned runs. Now, Luis Gil, as you know, hot start to the season. He had a little bit of a rough patch in June and beginning of July, but he's back on track. And you know what they say, if someone with your dad's name is pitching against the Angels, you always take them. So that's what I'm doing. I'm going to take him minus one and a half over the Angels today against the Sprags.

The United States beat Puerto Rico 104-83. All right, so Juju got that one right. I would suggest on Juju's Thursday Thunders just betting them individually because he goes two of three. Well, I'm just saying. You can do it that way. You're allowed. Does anyone else have any betting advice? I had one, but Roy took it. I was going to take Nigeria to cover. Oh, I'm sorry. The spread!

spread. Okay, I'm glad we organized it. I'm glad we planned it. I'm glad that we're in a contract here and that is what we're giving you as gambling information. 28 points is too many. When someone with your dad's name is pitching, you always bet them against the Angels. You did give them that. Against the spread. Thank you. I appreciate all your work.

Can we play, please, the aforementioned audio of Mad Dog Russo learning that Billy Bean, a Major League Baseball player who played for six different teams, and this was a gut punch yesterday. I'm not kidding you, Stu Gatz. And this has been happening so much lately. But I knew Billy Bean and...

oddly, because I was with my wife when this happened and she saw me like physically, visibly disoriented by it because Billy Bean, it's not just that I knew him, Stugatz, it's that my entire life, think about the mortality of this one. My entire life that I've known Billy Bean and I've known him, I'm going to say a quarter of a century, I have thought of him as a young person who

That he always seems young because he's a peer of mine. He just died at 60 after a fight with leukemia. But any time I've ever seen him, I'm like, that dude looks so young because he took such good care of himself. And so to hear that yesterday was just brutal. Rob Manfred had some nice quotes about Billy Bean where he said everyone liked him, everyone respected him.

But Chris Maddog Russo thought the more famous Billy Bean, the one who was the groundbreaking Moneyball general manager of the Oakland A's, was the one who had died. So Chris Maddog Russo gave the eulogy for the wrong Billy Bean. The word that we're getting right now is that the general manager of the A's, Billy Bean, may have passed away. Wow.

Was he ill? Wasn't aware of this. I mean, he's not that old. Geez, was it sudden? We'll see if we can get some information. Wow, that is a terrible story. With Billy Bean of the A's, I don't know anything about it. This is the first I've heard. You know, he's an historic general manager. Billy fought a heroic year-long battle with acute leukemia.

That's the wrong Billy Bean. That's not the Billy Bean from the A's. Last 10 years, Billy worked passionately and tirelessly with MLB and all 30 clubs, focusing on player education. He played a 10-year playing career with six teams. That's the different Billy Bean. Still a terrible story, but that's not the Bean of the A's.

That's the Billy Bean who worked for Major League Baseball. So it's a different Billy Bean. So we apologize if we got that screwed up. This is a different Billy Bean. This is not the Billy Bean of the A's. This is the Billy Bean who works in Major League Baseball. So an important – I'm not trying to make light of it, but it's a different one. So there you have it. Okay. Well, I apologize for screwing that up.

Too soon, obviously, to laugh at that, but I can't help but laugh at that because Billy is enjoying the anarchy. That's sad. Of course, it's sad. I'm also just wondering or hoping that the first 15 seconds of that

that someone who cares about Oakland A's Billy Bean doesn't happen to also listen to Mad Dog Radio because that's a horrific 15 seconds. Not that it's good for anybody who loves a Billy Bean of any kind. Right, doesn't matter. But those 15 seconds, if you're happening to get that news from Mad Dog Russo. What if Billy was getting that news from Mad Dog Russo? I can tell you it was worse than that when it happened.

because those 15 seconds, we cleaned that up a bit, lasted about 90 seconds where he was just kind of talking in circles waiting to get more information on Oakland A's Billy Bean passing away who did not pass away. At the beginning of that, he said, let's see if we can get some more information. Well, he got it. He did. He did say may have. Yeah. Right at the top. That's true. That is the great qualifier. I will say to everyone listening, though, for those of you who do not know about the Billy Bean who actually passed away,

that his work in the LBGTQ+ community was groundbreaking throughout baseball. And he was just a human rights activist that did something important and pioneering because he came from a time where you had to be super hidden on that. And so the way that he advocated for others

is among the many things I will remember about him. But he was a, and I hate that I'm using the past tense on this, a vibrant, vibrant, important young person. And so I didn't want to skip past today without talking about how that one got me. It got you good, huh? Like, because I told Abby when I, when I heard of the news, I said, wow, that's, that's going to hurt Dan badly because Dan respected him. Dan was, was friendly with him. But the, but the,

The thing that's different from all the other recent deaths Stugatz is I really do do a word association with him with that is youth. He looks like vibrant youth.

Something happened during the break here. Roy came in here, and I don't know if he was concerned for Stugatz, but he was delighted. He was excited because he's like, Dan, when I was watching the hot take hand cam, I noticed that Stugatz's thumb was really dirty. Now, Stugatz has had yellow fingers here for a while because of the heaters. And Stugatz said to Roy, not defensively, but just in the pursuit of accuracy, Stugatz,

That is not cigarettes, Roy. Yelled him out of the room. That's Cheetos. And then he proceeded to put his thumb in his mouth. I did, yeah. I mean, the dust. Right.

It tasted like cigarettes, by the way. Gross. I saw a story yesterday that made me think of you. Charlie Hall said that there's a smoking ban at the Olympics, and she's worried that it might screw up her chances of winning gold because smoking cigarettes helps with her ADHD, which I believe she told us when we had her on the show a few months ago. She also said she was trying to quit. That's true. She did say that, too. You've been saying that one, too. We all say it, Dan. You've...

It's unusually self-destructive in 2024 to be smoking cigarettes. I did quit. I'm smoking Cheetos now.

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Well, the thing is, I got a new wife now. You know, me and Bianca didn't make it. So I moved on. We moved on. It was for the better for both of us. Stugatz. Things just got a little awkward there. So let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife, Vince. Congratulations on feeling whole, feeling complete. You know, let's talk tailgating. Yeah.

Don't be, don't, don't feel awkward, buddy. No, I don't. It's too late for that. It's much too late for that. I appreciate you soothing me in this regard, but I already feel terribly awkward. And then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question, but just a healthy congratulations.

And the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce, Vince, after many, many years, 18 years with a partner who does things like that to you. This is the Dan Levitas show with the Stugats. Calais, can you hear us?

Oh, it's so nice to hear that voice. He makes me smile. It's so nice to see that face. Look at him. He is now an old Wiley veteran. We have known him since he was a young man. This is, I am a terrible talent evaluator. Terrible. But I saw him play at the University of Miami. I'm like, oh, no.

Nobody's ever going to be able to block that. That's not something that can be blocked. It's too big, it's too strong, and it's too fast and Stugatz. And it's always smiling. Yes, it is pretty happy unless you have to try and block him and he wants your quarterback and unless you get in his way on the way to the Hall of Fame because...

He's absolutely a Hall of Famer. He has been ransacking and sacking people for a really long time, and it has been a sheer delight, Calais, to see you wreck everybody in that league for what seems like now 100 years. You are the sixth oldest player in the league. Can you even believe that when I say it to you? And thank you for joining us. We're happy to see that this story, I'm assuming, ends in Miami, but maybe you'll play for another 40 years.

You know, I think it's a whole way to be able to come back to Miami, you know, 20 years from when I first stepped on campus at the University of Miami. You know, I mean, it's crazy. You know, time flies, but I love it. You know, it doesn't really feel like work. I get to just come to work and be a big kid every day and

Going here and having fun playing football. Can you tell us the story of, like, what it meant to you emotionally when you started seeing that you might be able... Again, I don't want to end your career before it's ending, but I just thought it was a perfect dismount for you to come home. Yeah, I felt like it was the perfect time. You know, I'm just...

I had other offers and other places I think were respectable teams, but the Dolphins just made a lot of sense. It definitely has just that nostalgic, just being here in the city, the amount of love I had when I was playing here in college ball, and just my love for the city and the fan base here. It made sense.

And, you know, hopefully we make it count. You know, I think this team is special, man. We got some playmakers and the way we've been practicing, the mentality that we've had. You know, got a little chip on our shoulder, you know, which I love. I appreciate it. I'm hoping that I can just, you know, make this year a real special year. Were the other offers better? Or how does that work when you're making the decision emotionally on where to choose? Is it just, well, this place will pay me the most? Or no, I really, I'm willing to go back to Miami no matter what?

Yeah, this is the cheapest offer I have by a large portion. Wow. Relatively speaking, I mean, but, you know, I definitely, you know, I always said I played this game, you know, the money didn't really matter. I played for, you know, essentially free because I loved it that much. You know, now, you know, that's game day. You know, obviously there's other stuff you got to, you know, it's a little different. It's a little too hard to do for free. But, you know, I mean, I turned down some real money, you know, to come here because I believe, you know,

And, you know, Coach McDaniel, I believe, and, you know, Coach Weaver,

And just the talent we have on the team, you know, I just feel like this is a chance. My best shot, I win the Super Bowl, and that's the ultimate goal for me. Who were the people that you called when you made the decision on Miami where you were most excited to share the news with them? Well, it took me a while to make the decision. I was weighing offers for a while and kind of going back and forth. And so I definitely leaned on, you know, my support team. But once I finally made the decision and I was coming back to Miami, you know, I was

I come back here a lot. I'm in here every offseason. I already had a place here, so it was really easy. But I definitely, you know, my phone was blowing up. All my Miami crew, like, oh, man, you're coming back? Is it real? Is this real? And I'm like, yeah, we'll make it happen. This will be a great year. But it has to make sense. All that stuff is great. But for me, this is football. Football is number one, always will be.

And I believe that this team is poised to be a force to be reckoned with. And, you know, obviously the AFC is a gauntlet. I mean, you got so many teams that are capable of winning the Super Bowl and have all the right pieces in place, and they're working just as hard as we're working. And so, you know, we got our hands full. But, you know, I just think we got a shot. Calais, I love you. But easy to take less money after you've made $140 million, right? Oh, come on. He said yes. He said yes. Thank you. Thank you.

We're not going to sit here and act like that, you know, walk around, you know, only made lead minimum most of my career. I got chestnuts and real money. It's business. It's definitely business. But we're 100% right on that one. When you got into the league, if I had told you your expectations, have you exceeded them? Because I'm not sure you had Hall of Fame on your dream list when you came out of college, did you?

If I'm being honest with you, that definitely was on my list of things. Like, I've always had, you know, high expectations for myself. You know, I really, you know, I feel like ever since I was 13 and I told myself I made a commitment that I wanted to be in the NFL and I was going to do everything possible to get to the NFL.

you know, the Hall of Fame was on my mind, you know, and I didn't really know much about the Hall of Fame. I didn't know how it worked. I just knew that if there was a place for the best of them, I wanted to be there. And I know that, you know, you know, I mean, you know, seeing, you know, guys go that I played with, guys I'm friends with, you know, the last few years and,

you know, I mean, it definitely makes it a lot more surreal. Like, you know, just like, wow, these guys are really like, you know, going to the Hall of Fame, you know, it just makes me feel like I have a shot. I know, you know, for me, my mindset is like, you know, do more to try to make sure that it's undeniable that you have a better shot. But, you know, but at the beginning of my career, you know, I had goals to break the sack record too. I wanted to get to 200, you know, 201 was my goal. And that's not going to happen. 200, 200. Wait a minute. I'm putting,

you in the Hall of Fame because you've gotten to 100. You got 105 and a half sacks for your career. It's going to be a pretty big year. Probably lead the league in sacks if he does it. I think so, perhaps. I'd watch Watt

94 and a half sacks is all that he would need to get to 200 this year. But do you have a photograph or anywhere getting to 100? Is it commemorated anywhere? Oh, yeah. Yeah, the 100 sack club was like, you know, like that's once I got to NFL and realized like how hard it was to get sacks and how hard it was to just be a great player in the league. You know, because in college, you know, you could just out athlete people. You know, I was just

a better athlete, and I can go out there and win without no technique, no moves, just pure effort and want to. Then I get to the NFL, and it's like, okay, now this is real. This is the real deal. And I realized that, okay, I might not be able to get 200. You know, maybe. We'll see. But, you know, I knew it was kind of tough. But I was like, all right.

Can I get to that 100? And for a while there, I didn't think I was going to get there. I was like, man, you know, I'm going to get my best shot. You know, but when I finally got to that threshold, that milestone, that, you know, that C note, man, it was a good feeling. And yes, I definitely, you know, captured that moment, you know, and made sure that that's something that's going to be, you know, in my head.

in my house for forever. You know, I wouldn't be able to, you know, brag on it with my kids or with my grandkids one day if they pick up the game and just like, you know, I mean, that's one of the hardest things to do. Very few people have done it and it's something that I always wanted to do. So, you know, getting that C-note, that was huge for me. Who was the quarterback?

Oh, Sam Howell. Sam Howell, you know. And it was a two-minute situation because so many times I got close, right? I got 99 and I was stuck at 99. I hit the quarterback like 12 times, but I could not get the sack. And I'm sitting here like, I mean, you got them wrapped up and thrown the ball away. I had Deshaun Watson, you know, the year before, right?

And he just threw the ball away to nobody. It's more beneficial for you to just take a sack than to throw it back. But Sam Howell was in a two-minute situation before half. He didn't want us to get the ball back to go get more points before halftime. So he just took the sack, which was a very smart, coachable thing to do. Yeah.

Kaleas, before my question, I want to commend you and Greg Olson. Out of that whole crop of newer school canes that didn't have the national title success, you guys get really involved in the program. So it's great to have you down here in Miami, get to see you at more games. But you've had this amazing career. You've played with so many great players. And I'm wondering, between Larry Fitzgerald, Lamar Jackson, who just did something physically in practice where you're like, I know I'm gifted. That dude's on another tier. Oh, man.

I had seen some spectacular plays in practice. I mean, really, Tyreek Hill out here balling right now, you know, and it's just like, wow, you know, he's 30 years old and still rolling and catching everything. I mean, he's diving on the ground for balls. Kind of reminds me of the Larry Fitzgerald days. But that 2008 year when we went to the Super Bowl in Arizona, you know, Larry Fitzgerald had so many incredible catches and games.

But in practice, it was every week he was doing something way better. You know, it was like, yo, you think that was dope? You should have seen the practice he had on Wednesday. The catch he had on Wednesday was like, I mean, I seen him like glint on his head and flipping. Like, it's just like, you know, it's practice. I don't know if he should be going that hard. But he set a standard, you know, that I could follow suit on. And I think that helped me be able to have the career I've had because I've seen this, you know, superstars practice. And, you know, you realize that when guys are gifted, you know,

and blessed the way some of these really good players are. And you have that work ethic, that grind. Those are the guys that become the Hall of Famers. So I've been looking to play with a few of them, but Larry Fajero definitely takes the cake on that one. I've got a ton of questions for him because I really have been an admirer for a long time of just really the craftsmanship of what he does because it's not just

all strength you just really have to be obsessively dedicated to uh being great at that because it's so hard like it's all two and a half seconds and the ball's out it's really hard to get sex never been harder to excel at what he does it's just absurd and he's been so great at it for so long so let me ask you if i say one trait above all others your speed strength will what

One trait is what makes you a Hall of Famer if you can only pick one? Ooh, that's a really good question. Oh, man. I think when it comes down to it, though, you know, like, I think you have to have the mentality, you know, the mentality that,

you know, I'm not going to let this guy block me. I don't care, you know, how good he is, you know, the scouts say about him or the reports and the coaches talk about him. I don't care about, you know, what the scenario is. Like, I'm just not going to let this guy block me. This mentality you got to have. And it's like when you're training in the offseason, it's the same mentality. You know, when the game's on the line, you know, I got to be the one to show up and make the play, you know, and I can't let anybody else outwork me, you know, and, you know, it's just when you're training, you got that mentality where it's like,

You know, when I'm in these situations, I got to be ready. I got to be able to take advantage of my opportunities and then start some practice, you know, treat it like it's game day, you know, and I'm out there in practice trying to bring that energy, bring that fire and make sure that I get that quality work. So when the game day comes, it's just like it's practice. And, you know, and I mean, you know, you got...

I love studying the greats and all the greats I've studied. You know, you see common denominators, but I think the number one thing that makes somebody a Hall of Famer is the mentality. You've got to have that mentality where, like, you know, when the game's on the line, I'm going to be the one to make the play. Dwight Freeney had that mentality, and then he faced Bryant McKinney in the Orange Bowl, and he got stuck in his navel again and again and again. Jason Taylor had that mentality and said, I couldn't do anything against Tony Buscelli. I had no chance.

Anybody you've run into where you're like, I have this mentality, but this isn't working today and it's not going to work. This person is too good at what they do. Have you run into anybody like that in your career? I can't recall anybody. I was just like, dang, all right, this guy just got my number. I will say, though, that I hope a guy like Marshawn Lynch gets into the Hall of Fame because I feel like, you know, I know when you look at all the numbers and stuff like that,

you know, usually running backs, they want to get that 12,000, you know, number. He's a little short of that. But, you know, when it came to, you know, playing against him back in the day, like I knew every time I, you know, I was getting ready to tackle him, I had to bring everything I had because he was running, you know, full speed ahead. Oh, wow. He went running back. He was...

went running back instead of offensive lineman i think it's because you you refuse to give offensive lineman any credit you would not you will not allow while you're still playing any name to come out of your mouth that to say that that guy was better than i am that's the only reason you went running back there i had a conversation with cam jordan uh a few years back and we were talking about how like we don't like you know there are definitely great office linemen

But, you know, when we're in the thick of the, like, I don't respect them. Like, you know, my mind said, no office linemen should block me one-on-one. I don't care who it is, you know? And so, yeah, they're a great office alignment. And maybe when I retire, I might be able to give you somebody who I feel like is really good. But right now, my mindset is I'm going to kill whoever you put in front of me. But not today, Dan. Okay. So how, so what,

what percentage of time, what percentage of time Kaleas, are you facing someone that you are simply saying to yourself, this person is stronger than I am. He's physically stronger than I am. Never.

You know, there are definitely a couple times where I'm like, okay, I'm going to have to use a little more finesse today. But that's rare. It really is rare. My mind said, you know, like this whole offseason, I was just like, let me get as strong as I can be because I'm putting my hands on people. What is an example that would explain to the layman how strong you are? I'm looking at your hands. Your hands physically are absurd. Like just, I mean, yes, they're just very large. You put them on someone, yes, you're going to be throwing them around. But

What is something that would explain to somebody who doesn't understand what your strength actually is, your physical strength? - You know, when I think about, I guess, in layman's terms, I feel like, you know,

I don't know. Like, I feel like, you know, just the, being able to pick up a car, like lift up a whole tire off the ground. I don't know if I can really do that, but in my mind, I feel like, you know, like your baby's trapped in the car and you, you know, I can pick up the car, you know? I mean, honestly, I feel like, you know, run through a door, you know, knock a door down straight shoulder first, you know? Now, honestly, I've never done any of these things. But you could do them. You're, you're pretty sure, you're pretty sure, you're pretty sure you could do those things.

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Don Libetard. All right, we got to go back out there. That was big.

Wake him up. Uh-oh. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see it. Mother effing. Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone's on. Stugatz. Paint the scene. Paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz.

Is there anything other than Tyreek Hill that you're talking about that you're seeing in Miami that has surprised you? I'm not talking about athletic gifts, but just already in the return to Miami, joining the Dolphins, where some stuff you didn't expect about what you've signed up for here. You know, I will say that the effort to the ball amongst all of us on defense has been a thing of beauty.

And like, you know, I heard all kinds of different things when I was going through my process and I didn't really know what to expect, you know, but, you know, I almost heard things like, you know, you know, you know, guys don't work hard. You know, I'm saying to myself, like, I can help with that. You know, I can I can help burn an edge. I get here and watch practice and I'm like,

These guys working hard as could be. You know, Javon Holland, full speed to the ball every play. Jalen Ramsey, full speed to the ball every play. To see his maturity and growth, because we played together in Jacksonville, and to see him now, I mean, he gave a speech the other day where it was like, oh, man.

That's what's up. He's come a long way, but he's a Super Bowl champ. He knows what it takes to win. And I think we all kind of see this potential. And so it's like, man, let's just do everything we can to give ourselves the best shot. There are no guarantees. That's football. But let's give ourselves the best shot. Calais, put us inside your head when Tua grabs the microphone at practice and starts celebrating his contract. Just put us there. What were you thinking? Crazy, right? Show me the money. Yeah.

The crazy part about that, though, is most of the young guys on the team do not know the reference. Oh, no. No.

Oh, you must have so much stuff like that where you realize you're the old guy in the locker room. There must be stuff like that happening every day, right? Cardinals legend. Every single day is crazy. But, you know, I mean, I embrace the old guy role. It gives me like a little bit of a like just I feel really good inside knowing that I can still do it. I can still hang with these young bucks.

Kaleas, while we have you, it's an opportunity to geek out over Canes football. I was privately saying that I think you, Frank, Jimmy, you might be the last Hurricane Hall of Famer, Pro Football Hall of Famers for a little bit. And if you were looking for an eye of who might be next, and we're getting way ahead of ourselves, but Reuben Bain has a unique pass rushing ability. And I'm wondering if you've worked with him at all, if you've talked to him. He's a guy that can play inside, he can play outside. He plays with the power, not the size, but the

power that you played your game with. I'm wondering if there's any relationship there. Yeah, you know, I got a chance to talk to him about the Legends camp and we spent a lot of time together. And, you know, I'm just talking through his mentality, like his vision, Swayze's things. And I'm super impressed because when I was his age, I have none of that. His get off, like just get off keys and the way he, you know, angles he takes and like what he's seeing and like trying to work his moves and stuff. It's like, man, they're way more skilled than

than we were back, you know, 20-some years ago. I definitely had, you know, the mentality and just the mindset to go out there and just beat the guy in front of me, like, you know, where he knows he can't block me at all. But I didn't have the skill. And so seeing Ruben, you know, go out there and just kind of work on his craft and talk about his scene and stuff. And I gave him some more pointers, of course, because I've developed a lot of skill over the years now. And so, you know, but I...

I really think that he's going to be a special player. He definitely has a chance to be, you know, obviously, you know, so much has to go right, you know, health wise and needs to continue getting better. And, you know, I always ask guys with like, you know, what's your main goal? You know, is it just to make money? Because, you know, yeah, this is a great job and you can make a lot of money doing it. But the guys that I really respect are the ones that love the game. They love the competition. They want to just go out there and compete.

and take somebody's will. I mean, that's what the game's all about. Yeah, of course, the money on that stuff is going to come, but when you want to go out there and compete against another worthy opponent and break their will, that's what gets me excited. He's a six-time Pro Bowler. Can you guys look up for me if there are any 100-sack guys who are not in the Hall of Fame? Do you know Calais? And we'll let you go here in a second. Can you name the five guys or any of the five guys in the league who are older than you are?

Oh, Aaron Rodgers, that's for sure. Yep. I don't know if Dwayne Brown's still on the roster. No, he's not on the list I have in front of me. There are four other guys. You're not expecting – one's a long snapper, one is a kicker. But one name I'm going to say, I want to get him on the show because I can't believe he's still in the league. Mercedes Lewis. Yeah, like what the hell is – you said you weren't going to get it anyways. Like what the hell is that guy still doing in the league? Who plays 20 years in that league? Yeah.

Man, it's so impressive. It's so impressive. You know, and he's, I mean, you know, when you got like the mentality he has, like he's cut from different cloth. Like he just loves this. Like you gotta, like it ain't, like it's not, you just, you get to play as long as you want. Like as long as I can, they gotta kick me at the lead because I love it so much. You know, that's, that's just, you know, especially like now I got kids and stuff, so they might be able to make me retire a little earlier. But, you know, and Mercedes does too. But, you know, we talked to him, you know, like I was just talking to him a few weeks back.

It's just like the love we have for the game is just unique. And I wish everybody had it like that, but you realize that most guys don't. But when you let a game like we do, man, they ought to kick us out the league. There are a great deal of players that aren't in the Hall of Fame that have 100 sacks. However, none of them have had 94 sack seasons like Calais is preparing this season for the Miami Dolphins. I'm going to say, though, because I've played more interior than I've played on the edge throughout my career. And I've played both, obviously.

But interior guys with over 100 sacks, it's a way smaller number. I don't think there might be one that's on the Hall of Fame. But interior, there's a lot more. Yes, a correction that is worth making there. You'll probably go on with a class that is just outside of the Aaron Donald. So it'll be fresh in everybody's mind in terms of interior guys with 100 sacks.

There's 44 guys who've had 100 sacks who are not in the Hall of Fame. Okay. So he's telling us that the edge rushers get it cheap sometimes, though, is what he's saying. He's saying get it through the— I mean, Pat Swilling not being in the Hall of Fame is a joke. That guy was one of the dominant edge rushers of all time. He was. He was a great outside linebacker.

Right, Goliath? He agrees. Thank you. Excellent. There's a few guys that I feel like they got a good chance to get in, and it makes you realize, like, you know, it's not, you know, there's no guarantees. It's tough. You know, I mean, I know my mindset is, you know, do more to make sure because, you know, there's no guarantee I get in, you know, which is just kind of a humbling thing to think about, but something that I've always wanted and I hope I get, you know, but at the same time, like, you know, realistically, you know, I mean, it's tough. You know, I mean, you got to be the best of the best.

a long time and I feel like I've you know you know I've always left my heart on the field and gave everything I had and I think if you look at just like the numbers and stuff like you know I got I got a case but if you look at the impact and like you know the way I played the game and you know where my team was affected by the way I played the game I got a lot better chance or the voice the voice puts him in the friendly monster hall of fame for all time we will let you go on this note do you agree with this or disagree with this

I am saying that the kickers should, we were talking about this earlier in the week, the kickers in the NFL should not be in the Hall of Fame. They should have a guest house behind the Hall of Fame that is made adjacent by a walkway and they can get from their Hall of Fame behind the Hall of Fame in the area behind it, but they shouldn't be in the actual Hall of Fame where the people are playing football and enduring the collision. Do you agree or disagree with that? No.

You know, my man Justin Tucker, who I think will be in the Hall of Fame one day, you know, I think that, you know, I got to give him some love. He can come hang with me. He's an entertaining cast. So they come in. Hopefully we get in there together. All right. A one-time exception that you're making for an old teammate because you love him. The rest of the kickers, though, outpat.

They're going to be out back. Calais, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate the time, sir. And it really has been a pleasure to watch you work over the last, well, 20, 20 damn years. I can't believe he's the old guy now. 20 years. It's crazy. It is crazy. That makes us the old guys, too. You realize that. He's the old guy. Then we're the old guys. We're the older guys.

Thank you, sir. I appreciate you guys having me. It's always a pleasure. How is Clyde Simmons not in the Hall of Fame? I can't believe there are 40 dudes with 100 sacks not in the Hall of Fame. The great thing is during that segment, Tony, during that interview, Tony realized it just dawned on him how great Bruce Smith was. Holy shit!

Yo, you need to see that video of Bruce Smith doing that interview where he falls backwards. Yes, in Buffalo local television. Just play this at the end right now. The video of Bruce Smith falling down. It hurts to play that game. Sometimes you've got to self-medicate. You go do a local interview and you just fall on the floor.

Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do, you can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside, maybe it's too hot.

summertime, go outside. I record a lot from my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,

I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.

She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.

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