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I will tell you that watching the Panthers lose that way, and I imagine Zaslow is just broken today. I don't know. Greg Cody's about to be here, but he's stuck in traffic, and he is enraged. And you know who he's mad at? Other cars. And he just told his son, if anything's going to make me quit the Levitard show, because that's what we need around here right now, it's traffic. What's wrong with your father? He...
He has anger issues, but they come out the most in traffic. I mean, I think that's a lot of us. I'm not angrier anywhere else in my life than in traffic. But yes, he's sending me paragraphs of text today, just angry. Just steaming. Can you read any of them to me? Because if anything's going to make me quit the Levitard show, it's traffic. I didn't put that there. Typical BS traffic today. Emergency vehicle in the express lane up ahead. Right now, it's estimating I'll arrive at 903. Hopefully, it breaks up. I might quit.
Can we call him right now just to get the steaming, Cody? And don't tell him. Do we dare do this without telling him he's on air? Do we dare? Ah, let's roll the dice. Oh, that seems unsafe. It's my dad, though. If it wasn't my dad, I'd feel a little more reckless. I mean, unsafe. He's writing you paragraphs of text while he's in full-on traffic. You think it's safe? I think he's dictating that for the record. He's a big speak-to-text guy. Surely he's familiar enough with how we do this show that he'd know that we're live.
No, he wouldn't. What do you mean? He's been around the show for over a decade. That would be the point of the Shadow Show, right? Nobody would clip this or aggregate it if he didn't. We're not doing show. It hasn't started. It's in the shadows. Call him live and let's just not tell him he's on air. Just ask him, Dad, are you here soon? Just pretend like, Dad, we're late. We're starting. Where are you? I don't know about this. I don't want to hear Greg Cody get in an accident. Let's just...
I'll do it here. I was going to wait to do it over Zoom. I could just call him on speaker on my phone. Yeah, Tinney. That's what the shadow show should be. Tinney. Here we go. It's ringing. Hey, Dad, you're late. Are you here? Dad, we can't start the show without you. We need you to hurry.
What happened? Like, why are you late? Just... Would it be quicker to just get out of the car and run the rest of the way? He doesn't like me right now. Chris almost cracked there for a second. Right in the middle of it. Really makes you respect the jerky boys, huh?
I mean, you'd think a father and son would have chemistry. All he had to do there was get his father started on traffic.
All he had to do was say, what's wrong? What's the matter with traffic? I think he got him there. He was exasperated. He didn't know he was on air and didn't give us the genuine laughter of having to run in here because he's late. Let's just examine for a moment our general work environment that he would be mad at us because he's late. He didn't sound that mad, if I can be honest. He sounded pretty pleasant. He's so good at his job that why can't we tolerate him being late? He did sound—
Exasperated at Chris asking kind of like what what happened well, that's cuz he had texted me like in his mind He's like I just told I told you for an hour that I'm so this is the tension though Zaslow hates that part of Cody so much you're so self-important - you're so self-important
Do you know the hurricane that's coming towards you right now, by the way? Why? Are you familiar? What do I do? I don't know. I don't know either. It's the way you identify yourself, apparently. What, as a two-time champion broadcaster, you got a problem with that? I don't, but some people do. All right. Some people who are balleting right now. You got a problem with that? We can take care of that. You should have worn your rings today.
Next time you're on with Cody, you gotta wear your rings. Yeah. What do you do? Where are they? They're on my dresser in a very nice case. What do you, do you like weddings? Like, what do you, what do you take them out for? Yeah, you know what? I was at a Zaslow wedding this weekend. Really? Yeah. Mazel. I was going to wear it, but I forgot. But I'll wear them to nice events. Yeah. Not both at the same time. I mean, what am I? Asshole? This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. I, um...
Don't know what to say about Greg Cody not being here. Being late is okay around here, evidently. Greg Cody's mad at us because he's late and we're asking him to not be late.
Everyone else got in on time. Evidently, they were in different traffic. I took the same route as him. I'm here. And so he, oh my God, this is going to be steaming. What? What comes in here right now? No, I can see him in the other room right now. He's just kind of lollygagging with his Publix bag filled with whatever, trinkets. You guys ever seen Jurassic Park where they're hiding from the raptors and the raptor comes up to the door and it snorts and then looks through the window? That's exactly what Greg just did. He walked past the door and looked in the window and I saw his eyeball kind of his pupil dilate.
Greg, come do your job professionally. Arrive. It's the same time every day, roughly. Now he's like, where do I get my makeup done? In the chair? Out here? Just bring Jesse on in. No, no, no. Let's go. Jess, come on in. Two minutes ago. No, no, let's stop the show. It's what he's always wanted. He's sore from dancing at a wedding. It's all about him, baby. I was at a wedding, too, this weekend. I'm here. No, no, but did you dance so much your body hurt? I danced.
Also, he's on a back-to-back. You're not on a back-to-back, Zazz. I mean, you act like I don't work other jobs. I worked yesterday. So does he. All right. Greg Cody Show. I'm here. Featuring Greg Cody. On time. Just the breathing. You're mad at us? It depends on your attitude. I left my house at 7. It took me two bleeping hours to get here.
To get here. You want me to leave my house at 6 just to make sure I'm here? No, I heard you threatened to quit. The traffic might make you quit the Levitard show. That would be an unfortunate ending. Well, what I told him was if I ever quit this show, traffic will be number one on my list of friends. Where do you come from? From my home in an unidentified Broward city. I'm in Broward too. Okay. I'm here. What time did you leave? 7.15. 7.15?
Okay, but you're a two-time NBA champion. No, no, two-time champion broadcaster. Uh-huh, okay. Yeah, yeah. I don't misidentify you. Yeah, so you probably have your own lane, like a Zaslow Express lane. Matter of fact, the Express lanes were closed this morning. I still found my way here. Uh-huh. You ever use Waze? Yeah, I do use Waze. All right. Waze and Waze. Maybe you got a different version than I do. It got me here a long time. All right.
Like a journalist. Let's just wait till he gets makeup because I think he's so entertaining that he should be allowed to be late whenever he wants to be. He had a big wedding this weekend. His body hurts. First of all, am I late? What do you mean are you late? The show started.
I mean, you could have waited. Why did you start it without me? We're live. Is that wrong? We do a live show. To be fair, to be fair, there are one, two, three, four. Hey, Greg, how's it going? There are, what, six people here. We could have handled it without them. We didn't have to bring it to a screeching halt. Do below is four minutes.
Four minutes into the show, greet everybody. Whose phone is doing this? Please. Who's getting the iMessage constantly? Like, who's doing this? It's going off like crazy. Is this my computer? Yeah, I'm getting notifications. It sounds like a MacBook. I haven't heard anything. There's no one texting anything. Don't gaslight me like that. There is a noise. Amateur. I'm still not clear what that word means. What, amateur? No, gaslight. Oh.
You good, Dad? Put on CNN. Great. He's getting there. He's fine. There it is again! Did you not hear that? Did you not hear that? It was there. It ain't me. I think I just shut down equipment I need because you guys instantaneously rightly assumed it was me because his stuff's not on you. I also saw you panic once and get your phone out of the way when one of those noises popped up. Did you guys hear it? Because I actually... There it is again! All right, who's the culprit? Please tell me it's Cody's phone. No, it isn't. No, this is pre-Cody.
They say this noise was going off pre-coding. I'm like, oh, all right, I'll let it slide. Is it that room? I hear it in my ears, which means it's coming from that room. It's not coming. Oh, dude. This is textbook gaslighting right here. I thought it was that room, too. It's not this room. You feel so good being smug under that mustache. I am not being smug. I'm being gaslit. Still not sure what that word means. I just noticed the mustache.
Let's wait till he gets all this stuff plugged in. I'm sure he's got a ton of basketball thoughts. I'm glad we waited for them because that was a heartbreaking night last night for the... This is very unprofessional. Is that your nostrils that are making that sound breathing? I didn't make a sound. The Florida Panthers lose last night, and I want to get to that game in a second. But the thing that I was feeling last night that I did not feel the entirety of my life that was legitimately confusing to me.
is I watched that entire Knicks-Celtics game
And I did not know at any point who I was rooting for. And at the end, I just decided I want both of them to lose. I can't do this. At the end of this game, this is wonderfully entertaining as sports and television. And the way I feel about both the Knicks and the Celtics fan base make it so that this game, I want the Meteor to win. I want both teams to explode, both teams to lose, both teams to get injured, both teams to punch each other in the face and play for seven games that are...
wildly uninteresting the way the Celtics are when they miss all their 53s and ruin the game. Ruin the game because that's what we're playing now. And I watched a basketball game that had legitimate stakes and I cared but only to sort of hate both entities and not want either fan base to win. And it was wildly confusing to me to have that happen. I think it's in this room. I've changed my mind. You think it's in that room? It's happening here.
What made you think that? The fact that all the microphones were off in here and you heard it? What is happening in there? Take all the equipment out. This must stop. I don't think... I think it's you. It's you? I understand. Oh, if it's this... I don't hear it. If it's that computer over there, someone's getting fired. If it... Who? I don't hear anything. No, we've confirmed. He gave the Mutombo finger. Is it this computer down there? Huh.
If you want to look at my phone and come in here and tell me if you think it's me, I'm not trying to conceal. It's a computer noise. It's not a text noise. Do you think if I turn this computer off, I'm going to... I think you have to slam it on the floor. Just mute the computer. It's not a muting thing. It is the sound of a computer. The charge cable is kind of not connected well, so it starts charging and then it stops and it starts again. Yeah. Yeah. Heard it again. Maybe it's in the control room and one of their mics is on.
I heard it that time. I heard it and it's not anywhere near me and I didn't touch anything. But it sounds like it's coming from over here. Is it April Fool's Day? So are you closer to understanding what a gaslight is? Everybody be quiet. Everybody be quiet. Okay, there it is.
All right, now it might be Greg. It is. It's the Stugatz laptop. It's the Stugatz laptop that was on the floor. Not me. Innocent. Yes. Yes. The Stugatz is fired. Get that out of here. Greg Cody beats all charges. I will tell you guys right now and be as honest as I've ever been. I was sure I was guilty, but I didn't know how. So the accusations from the other...
room made me lose confidence because I knew it wasn't Cody because his equipment hadn't gotten here but I heard the sound too but I also felt like it wasn't my fault but as I turned things off I wasn't sure I was turning them off and now I was scared because we're supposed to be doing a show
Dan, I'll be honest, when Mike first went off, I was like, oh crap, I think it's my laptop. I actually closed my laptop. I think we all, I think all of us were like, shit, is this me? While we were doing the search, I quietly closed my laptop like so, just to make sure. No, but I saw what was happening around me and I felt a bit framed.
Because there was a lot of confidence in the room over there. And it was... I apologize. I kind of blame that room. You did, but the confidence that was swaying from that room was not any confidence other than a technological one. We've got this room beat.
I liked our hand. You think it was more likely we framed you than you just made a mistake? Yes, this is the relationship I have with the room and how ready I was to fight everyone who was making me feel very insecure as I backed away from the microphone. Almost sure it was me.
Oh, that's as much happiness as I've had in four years knowing it was not me. But it was you, but it wasn't your fault. It was us doing it to you. Well, somebody did that. Like, somebody put that in here, and so that was not me, and that was just done to our show. Was that the Stugatz computer? So, Billy, forgive me for thinking that you might be an anarchist who would do something to annoy me.
I mean, a little accountability. If it's your laptop, it could be your fault. But it wasn't my laptop. I don't know. You didn't plant a laptop in there. But you still think that I was responsible for that? No, I don't think you were responsible. I'm not rooting for a meteor in Boston and New York. Are you rooting for injury? No, I'm actually rooting for the Knicks. A meteor is likely death. I'm surprised. I was watching that game, and I was really surprised at how hard I was rooting for the Knicks. Because, see, I don't think the Knicks have a shot to win the championship.
But I do think Boston has a shot to win the championship. And right now, I'm actually enjoying the Knicks fandom. They haven't beaten a really good team all year. They're what? 0-11 against the Thunder, the Celtics, and the Cavs. So they got their win over there. They're super excited. They sold home court advantage. I'm enjoying this. In fact...
I'm kind of enjoying the Knicks brand right now. And I guess the rivalry is such between the franchises that I hate the Boston Celtics way more than I hate the New York Knicks. So I was actually really surprised at how strongly I was rooting for the Knicks from the jump. I am 1000% with you.
Mike, my hatred toward the Boston Celtics is so far superior to my hatred of the New York Knicks. Maybe even if you took my hatred of the Knicks back in the late 90s, and certainly my hatred of the Knicks right now, maybe if you took my hatred of the Knicks back in the late 90s and compared it to my hatred of the Celtics right now, it might still be.
in favor of the Celtics. My hate for them is far surpassed. And here's the thing. The style of play that the Celtics use, it's a vomit. It is unwatchable. They missed 45 three-pointers last night. It's the NBA playoff record. It's the worst brand of basketball. And then you look, I mean, their entire offense, it's dribble, dribble, dribble, dribble the blood out the basketball, fours.
Right forearm push-off, step-back travel, fadeaway three-pointer. That's their entire offense. And the Knicks, on the other hand, look, I'm going to sound the way I sound, it's kind of admirable the way they play because the NBA player, two things they love more than anything else, complain and not play. And the Knicks, they don't.
They play. Those guys play. They play heavy minutes. Everyone wants to be critical of Thibodeau. What a crime to play your best players the most you could possibly play them. The Knicks style of play is actually admirable, in my opinion. I can't abide praise for the Knicks here. I run with them. Dude, all the Jeremy Taché, all the Heat fans kind of feel aligned right here, which is like, go Knicks. He's not a fan.
Go Knicks. Totally go Knicks. Totally. It's okay to hate both teams, right? I thought I did. But when they played each other, I was like, well, let's go Knicks. It is okay to hate both, but which ones do you want to lose more?
I don't care who wins because I don't like either. Okay, everybody dislikes the champion. The Boston Celtics were the first team I liked because I was born in Massachusetts. You know, Bill Russell, Sam Jones, Havlicek, they were my first team. Right now, I don't care. Everybody hates whoever's the champion. Everybody hates the Knicks because they're the Knicks and because Spike Lee is wearing a Knicks hat at the Met Gala. So everybody hates both teams. I like watching a game where I hate both teams.
I either want a rooting interest or I want an interest where I don't like either team. Greg, I'm giving you the truth serum, all right? You're there. You're strapped down. I have a big giant needle. Yeah. And I've shoved it inside your arm with truth serum. It's in your veins. So you have to tell the truth right now. Which team do you want to lose more? The Knicks. Really? Yeah, clearly.
Yeah, there's no question about that. I mean, I don't... Well, then you're rooting for the Celtics. That's what that means. It doesn't mean I'm rooting for them. Sure does. It means I want them to lose less than I want them to win. And the only way for the other team to lose more is if one team beats them. You're rooting for the Celtics. Yeah, but if the Celtics win that series, I'm not going to be cheering. I hope they lose in the next round. I need them out of my life right now. Really? You think I need the Celtics two years in a row? You think I need this shit in my life? Ha ha ha.
Can we take away Spike Lee's biggest fan? He went to the Met Gala over Game 1? What? He was at the Met Gala. I know that because I saw a photo of him wearing a Knicks hat. Are you positive that that is a recent photo? Because of all the photos that came from that, Spike Lee could be photographed any year at that. But they have themes. Yeah, I mean, I saw a bunch of photographs from this year's Met Gala, including him. Is it Gala or Gala?
Well, it's the PFPI gala. Gala? Gala, with emphasis on the G-A. So not even gala, it's a gala. It's the PFPI gala. But in other terms, most people say gala. I think gala is the chic. Confirmed that he missed game one. There you go. I reported that just now. It was a road game. It was in Boston. I reported that Spike Lee missed game one for the gala. He went to Detroit. All right, everybody.
Feel like Spike's got a hard time traveling? No, I'm just saying. He's the number one fan in New York. Do you think they had the game on? Road. I mean, Timothee Chalamet reportedly missed the Met Gala to watch the Knicks game. Real fan.
But do you think that they have the game on, like, at the wet bar? I think that if you wanted to watch the game there, you could watch the game there. He's holding his phone on his lap. I mean, let's be real. Once you get inside, I imagine it's just like an empty banquet hall, right? What goes on there? Is it like a show? I think that the celebrities just plug themselves back into the wall, they recharge, and then they go home. Like, I don't think there's anything going on there. You guys, because this part is amazing to me, you do realize that if...
Jay Williams is on television saying Jalen Brunson is the best Knick of all time, and we can argue it, but it gets forgetful of Patrick Ewing. But whatever, we can have the discussion if you want to. I imagine Amin would have some opinions there. But that feeling last night for the New York Knicks, a team that has not closed out a series in the playoffs at home since 1999, I could set out without being prisoner of the moment
that that's the best Knicks game I've seen and the best the Knicks fan base has felt in a quarter of a century. Last night, winning in overtime. That's not saying much. Have you looked at their last quarter century? I'm just saying he's sitting here hating the Knicks and it's an old brand he's hating. It's not like there's no... He's rooting...
What's happening with Zaslow and Mike, I imagine a lot of people are saying, looking at the Celtics, I can't root for that. I just can't root for that. And he's over here saying to you, I can't root for what I remember of Spike Lee being on the Knicks sideline back when Knicks heat mattered. No, but here's what I'm going to say to what you just said. When the Celtics are missing a playoff record 45 three-point shots every
You really want to give the Knicks a lot of credit for playing a great game? I say the Celtics choked to an epic degree. The Knicks were the most fortunate team in America to win that game. They did choke. It was a super meltdown. All right. But still, down by 20 on the road, second half, pretty impressive comeback.
Dan, I think I can explain Greg's position here. Let's say you have a house and you find out that the house has a termite infestation, right? Oh my God, these termites get the exterminators. The termites won't go away. What do we do?
Would you rather hear that the termites are still there or would you rather hear good news, the termites are out, bad news, you now have rats? Because that's what would happen if the Knicks start getting good. Right now, the Celtics have been good. It's not a new thing. They've been good for a few years now. You live with it. It's termites. Okay, that's it. You tell me now I have rats. Like, oh, come on. Can we keep it to one pest at a time?
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We're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World R3. This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats. I can't get that fan base much louder. Like, I can't enjoy the Knicks fan base success because I've seen how loud it is today.
And how desperate it is to be good again. These celebrities, the Ben Stillers and the Hank Azarias and the Tracy Morgans of the world, they feel they haven't had that basketball feeling in 25 years in that town. And most of them are old enough to remember that, no, Patrick Ewing is the best Nick of all time. Whoa. Whose laptop was that?
Was that Cody's? It ain't me. Whoa. I'm pretty sure that was Cody. Look at my volume. Okay. It's not a volume thing. It's a charging cable thing. Whoa. Who did charging cable? That doesn't make any noise. That's an Apple sound. Greg doesn't have an Apple. I don't know. I am now certain that it is Greg Cody's computer. Okay. I wouldn't frame you. No, it's not coming from me. This is a gaslighting.
You know it's not coming from me. Is the sound, the gaslighting means the sound? No, it's, you know something to be true and someone tells you to your face that what you believe is not true. It's a proper gaslighting. Yeah. This is so unprofessional. What does that have to do with gas or light? It's like how you start a fire, like gaslighting. But then you actually started a fire. You're telling me there's no fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning. Yeah, exactly. Well put.
Oh, Greg loved being, hey, hello, Dolly. I love that. Yesterday, he just singing that song my entire life. Hello, Dolly. If you can, for just a second, I did. We made a lot of fun of Greg Cody yesterday. However, as usual, I got thick skin. You come back every day. Clearly. Yeah, you got to have thick skin in this business. Thick toenails, too. In this business.
You keep coming, Greg. I mean, you go through traffic and all just to come and be abused every day. I come here, man. I do. Show videos of you falling in bushes. It's insane. Well, that's uncalled for. That happened a century ago. Playing the old hits. That's Greg Cody. No, it isn't. I saw you reach. I know it is. It is. It's got to be. You hit your computer there. Vet me to make sure it's not me. I don't know that you deserve the benefit of the doubt here. If it's me, I will give you a $100 bill right now.
If you can prove that that is my computer. Billy, frame him the way you framed me. I mean, how is he? I think we could easily prove air quotes that it's him and he won't know. Go ahead. That's correct. All right.
I'll go in there. Grab the cord of your thing. Mike, don't touch it. Mike will go in there. Hold on. Hold on. Everyone hands up. Hold on. Zass, hands up. I don't trust you. Hands up. Everyone's hands up. Okay, wait a minute. So you guys heard officially what the bet is, correct? So hold on. Listen to me carefully on what the terms here. Because he's so confident. He never puts down his own money. He's so cheap. He's so cheap. Okay.
I'm the most generous person you know. Okay, so you haven't paid a fine in two years, whatever. We can argue about that later. Yeah, I don't believe in fines. Hands up! Hands up! Did you touch your cord? Hands up! Mike is going to adjust his thing and we're going to see if it's his computer. We think it's the cord. It's an easy way to tell. And we'll all find out together whether you owe $100 or not. But before he does this, you are 100% positive that you will not be paying me $100.
No, I won't be because my computer is not... Okay, do you have the $100 on you because you haven't paid a fine in forever? You saying you're going to pay something means nothing. I got a wad full of bennies right in my pocket. There you go.
All right. Let's see. Let's see. I don't really, but no, no. Wait a minute. No. So are you going to be good for the hundred dollars? Which I don't really know. Greg, Greg, are you agreeing contractually right now? We will take it out of your next check. One hundred dollars is the bet. Well, you got to start paying me first. No, no. We need cash. I got a check for metal. No jokes. I'm not making a joke. Direct deposit.
I got to check with my business manager on that one. No, hold on, please. I'm sorry. I know we're belaboring this. And forgive me, Panther fans. Forgive me, Panther fans, for not talking about the Panthers. You're welcome to everyone else. They're happy that you're not. All right. $100 bet. But again, you're going to pay it. Your words mean nothing. I'm sure it's you. All right, Mike. This is an AOL email, just for the record.
Of course! Of course! I knew it! No. So obvious! Of course! So I'm talking about. That's impossible. So I'm talking about. The cord right here, it's loose. So I'm talking about. How does that make that noise? It's your laptop. My volume is off, though. It has nothing to do with the volume. It makes that noise even if your laptop is on mute. They do that so you know that your device is charging.
That's crazy. Why don't you do it? Where did Dan go? It's not making noise. Oh, there you go. Wow. Wow. Greg. No, somebody else is doing that in there. Greg. No, now this is gaslighting. What? How can they possibly do it in there? I don't know. Let me do it one more time. So gaslighting. Very unprofessional. I didn't touch it. Damn it. And you saw that I didn't touch it. You made fun of me.
You saw that I didn't cut. He got our ass. He pretended to do it. He got it. That was very sneaky. Yes.
Very sneaky. I think Christopher's out of the will now, right? Yeah, I'm probably out of the will. Yeah, it's all going to the younger son, Michael, YSM. Zaz, so where are we with the Panthers? I feel like consensus in my Panther group chats, there's no panic. I'm in one of your chats. Oh, that's true. You're in that one. In the main Panther chat that I'm in, it seems like the third period made Panther fans feel at ease with, this is going to be a long series. We're fine. Oh, yeah.
You know what? When they were down 4-1, that was not the Panthers that I've seen most of the season and through last year's playoffs. They were awful. They were disjointed. Bob led in a couple of bad goals. The Panthers I saw come back from 4-1 down and make it a game. That was the Panthers I know. If I'm a Panthers fan, I'm not the least bit worried. I think they're going to win Wednesday night. Then they got two at home. No panic whatsoever. Wow. I...
I think if you were to ask Panther fans today...
how they feel going forward the remainder of the series, I think there's still a ton of confidence. I think if you ask the Maple Leaf fan how they feel right now, they're certainly very happy that they're up one game to none, but I think they're also like, yeah, we might have gotten a little bit lucky here with what took place. I thought the Panthers were totally going to come back in the third period and win that game. They were so...
the Panther fan looks at that and knows they didn't play well. Does the Maple Leaf fan say, wow, we didn't play well? I don't think so. I think the Maple Leaf fan is really pleased that they got out of there with that win. The Pan, I mean, Seth, everybody knows Seth Jones, my dog. He played like a spaz last night. All right. Uh,
Kulikov, very bad. Mikula, very bad. Wolf, Mikula. Barkov. I mean, Barkov with the turnover, which led to a scoring chance. Barkov taking a penalty. Even in the third period, when the Panthers are rolling and they make it 4-3, they still went and took two more penalties after that and gave up another goal off a turnover. So even in their best period, they were still crap, and they were right there at the end. So I...
You know, Dan Zazla's going to be enraged at the Panthers. I'm moderately annoyed right now at last night's game. Also, for context, remember how last year's second round started? Yeah. The Panthers had home ice against Boston. Yeah, they lost. They lost 6-1. They got crushed 6-1. This is a different scenario because you're just looking to win one and steal home ice advantage. Your fourth line barely plays last night. They just stopped playing A.J. Greer, who's probably for the best. Wouldn't surprise me at all if Mackey comes back.
But right now, the Leafs fans, yeah, they're happy that they won. They kind of feel like they survived one. It also feels like there's no way they feel great. No, which is why they're trying so hard to get Sam Bennett suspended. Yes. There's no way he's suspended. It appears that Solars and Chris Novinski, who once joined the show before and charged the Dolphins with murder or manslaughter. Former WWE superstar. Yeah, Chris Harvard. He says, he theorized, which actually makes sense that Solars got concussed
initially on the shot from Sam Bennett, or was it Sam Reinhart that hit Salar in the mask, knocked his mask off? Because I think Sam Bennett is a victim of his reputation.
We know what Sam Bennett is trying to do something. It felt, it looked like a fairly innocuous hit. So Lars's mask came off. He barely touched him. I call it a graze. It looked like a dive initially, but I think, but, and also if there was something behind it, Toronto, those Maple Leafs players would have went at Bennett in that moment. It was that innocuous in the moment, but everyone now is trying that is supporting the Toronto Maple Leafs is trying to suspend Sam Bennett for something that I don't think actually caused the concussion. It,
The guy was vomiting on the bench. Something caused the concussion. Clearly concussed, but I don't think it was that interaction with Bennett, the one that everyone's pointing to, that they allege is a dirty hit because they don't want to go back and say, hey, this came out of the run of play. This was a shot off his face mask. That's the main thing why I don't believe Bennett's getting suspended. Number one, it's...
If you look at that play, just isolate that one play. That is not a play that gets you suspended in the Stanley Cup playoffs. That's number one. It wasn't even a play that got Toronto to defend their goalie. Yeah, and again, no penalty. Now I understand Eckblad got banned two games, no penalty. But there's nothing there. The second part is, if they were to suspend Bennett...
They are acknowledging that they allowed a player who was concussed earlier in the game to remain in the game for another nine minutes of real time. That's what they would be acknowledging if they're going to suspend Sam Bennett there. There's no...
I'll go as far as to say I don't think they're going to even have a hearing. Well, you don't think that they'll allege that the concussion did... If they suspend Sam Bennett, then they're going to say that the concussion came from that fairly innocuous hit in the crease. A hit so innocuous that none of his Maple Leafs teammates came to back him up. So they're just going to ignore the puck to the head. Right. We'll know about it, but they'll just kind of assume they have public support on this. I'd be stunned. I'd be stunned. Okay, I predict that Sam Bennett will be suspended.
Do you agree, though? But for what? Yeah, I do, because it's an elbow to the head. But he tucked it in, but he didn't even give him one of those. I think it's enough for a suspension. I think you call it a push at max, a graze. There's no punch or elbow thrown there. I won't be pleased to be the one right here, but I think he will be suspended and probably should be. But the Panthers are so good, they can overcome Sam Bennett missing defensively.
a game if their penalty kills are a little bit of a lot of time i can i just stop all of you just for a second because uh... i i will concede to you that uh... what i'm hearing in this room feels like a whole lot of panther fans perfectly fine with what happened with the florida panthers last night it is as long as far as to say uh... that the toronto fan doesn't feel that good about that because of how it played out i would say
The reason that I fear teams like Winnipeg and Toronto and Washington, and I fear everyone it seems like, is because hockey is going to hockey. And I know the Panthers have the best team, but shit happens. And then you're down 1-0 to a Toronto team that is good enough, could have gotten knocked out in the first round, but that's a scary team. And so I don't feel good about that. And Sam Bennett possibly being suspended because, as you guys have the sports argument,
They've got a concussion problem throughout sports and whether it was or wasn't what caused the concussion, Sam Bennett's reputation is that's the dirtiest and the Panthers are the dirtiest and what happens when Sam Bennett does that is the entirety of the internet hockey world that isn't a Florida Panther says those people down there in Florida are kind of scumbags and you guys are like, but they're ours. I'll wear it. But they're ours.
I don't care. I'll wear it. The other thing I would factor in is that you want to protect the goalie. Okay, you protect that goalie. That's his crease. And when you have somebody throwing an elbow at a goalie's head... Throwing an elbow. I don't agree with that. Have you watched the replay? I have watched the replay. They collided, but like...
I understand what you're saying. You don't want that happening to your goalie. You know who doesn't want that happening to their goalie the most? The Toronto Maple Leafs that are on the ice. Nobody came to his defense because it was that innocuous. If you actually watch the play, Bennett actually tucks his elbow in trying to avoid Solars. The concussion, I would bet my life, didn't happen on that play. It happened when he took a
puck to the face that knocked his helmet off. And he probably really felt it off of a fairly innocuous hit that got him loopy. He was probably feeling loopy well before that. Okay, I'm not predicting a suspension or saying what I'm saying.
as a fan because I'm not a fan. I'm neutral here. There's three journalists here in this room. And I wonder how the rest of you would feel if a Maple Leafs elbow had given... If I saw the replay and there was no extension of the elbow, it's just like he... Okay, if Bob Roski's vomiting...
on the bench and he's out perhaps out of the next game you want someone suspended. I'd be calling for the death penalty. I understand what you're saying but I also think this is where our Panthers fandom actually helps contextualize this because we were paying attention
to what happened earlier in the game. And we're pretty aware that that was a wicked shot that he took off his face mask. And we also know that when Sam Bennett means to hit somebody dirty, he commits to hitting somebody dirty. The elbow doesn't go in. The elbow goes out. And I just think if he got suspended, it would be really unfortunate and it would be the league bending to pressure because he has this reputation. I don't even think there's going to be a hearing.
I think it's a waste of everybody's time. Straight to the gallows. Of course we're talking about this because it's Toronto and they're maniacs up there in Canada. And it's Sam Bennett who has the reputation. I don't even think there's going to be a hearing. Stop wasting my time. Emily Kaplan has tweeted this morning, nothing confirmed yet, but I don't believe Sam Bennett will receive supplement discipline for his contact with Stolarz. He's not. I'm reporting it.
Put it on the crawl on ESPN. I'm reporting. No discipline. This is why he's a rising star at ESPN. Put it on the crawl. He just said to everybody, there will be no hearing. He's like, suspend him, and he runs with the torches. The internet says Sam Bennett's dirty, and Zaslo's Judge Zaz. Who doesn't want Judge Zaz of sports? I am a judge. Judge Zaz saying to you the thing you always want to hear about around the best sporting events, hearings.
Zaslow says there will not, he is saying there will not even, never mind. Don't waste my time. Never mind an investigation. There will be no investigation. There's video out there. Everybody's screaming. We're going to investigate. I saw it. Not even a hearing. Nope. Stop wasting my time. Who's going to be right between Zaslow doesn't get a hearing, stop wasting my time, and Greg Cody with virtue signaler, it looked like an elbow and we don't like it.
concussion suspended. Can it be as simple as if the Panthers come back and win last night, he probably gets suspended, and since they lost, like, to balance things out, I thought that's what happened with Tampa. But that's what, that's the other thing about what happened last night. Yo, you guys got all cocky because here comes Florida doing what they do. Yes, on the momentum of a dirty hit. I mean, what
What happened to Dampa was obvious. Aaron Ekblad went to kill Brendan Hagel because Hagel was super dirty earlier in the series. They missed the call. It was still so on purpose. Not some two-faced hypocrite like we were saying. Ekblad should be suspended for that. That was with intention. And you're damn right it was intentional because he was defending his guy. This was not a concussion that was delivered by Sam Bennett in that moment. It just wasn't. Yeah, you can't say that it's all Panther, you know,
fans here who are defending Sam Bennett in that spot when we're all readily admitting, yeah, get Eckblad being suspended. Makes sense. But here in this spot, it's like, no, that's not a suspension. Okay, but I would ask you guys to consider if you realize that you're in the most magical place that there is in sports and the closest thing we've had in this city to this than when the Miami Heat were dominating this town for 15 years.
Your team, a relevant one, your team, a champion, is despised by, and respected, and despised by people in hockey because the way they play in the playoffs is so physical that when Sam Bennett is dirty, no one is surprised and can see optical illusions and no one would be surprised because, yeah, the Panthers are dirty and they are dirty and what are you going to do about it? Are you going to suspend them? Because we'll take the suspension on Ekblad and the hit, yep.
You know why? Because we wanted him to do that. Because this sport, this sport...
That cost of gold, did it not? What happened with Ekblad, everyone supported, even though they acknowledged what Ekblad did was whatever, morally right in defense of the Panthers, but also it was costly. The penalty for it was costly. They scored two goals in 11 seconds after Ekblad delivered that hit. And then Ekblad, I believe, scored later on. Not only did they not call a penalty on Ekblad on that play, but he went on to have maybe the most impeccable
impactful game he's ever had as a Panther. Taking that guy out for our captain and then scoring the game-time goal. We've probably spent too much time on Sam Bennett because I just flatly don't think anything nefarious happened there. I already told you, nothing's happening. But for me, the headline is Florida played very poorly. They were sloppy. They were sliding into their own guys. There were bad giveaways in their own zone. The fourth-line wingers don't appear to be a fit for this situation.
Set Jones was a spaz last night. Barkov was bad. Seth Jones was a mixed experience. Verhage has been frustrating people. I actually didn't think that he was that bad. Brad Marchand was actually really good on the night. That's my dog. That's my rat right there. So I think Florida's well-positioned, and also the...
The elephant in the room today that we should be discussing is the fact that heavy is that crest for Toronto. They could be up 2-0. They could be up 3-0. The sphincters in that collective province of Ontario are going to be this tight because the Toronto Maple Leafs just struggle when they're on the front foot.
I'd like some help from Greg Cody on this because I don't know where the line is on Mike Ryan's appraisal that Seth Jones is, I think, a mixed experience or a mixed bag experience. I missed it. But as you were saying it, Zaz was calling him a spaz. So what is the difference? Like, what is the line? I don't know hockey well enough to know the difference between
a mixed experience and a spaz because when I saw Seth Jones play, I just thought he was kind of average. I mean, he scored a goal and he broke up a breakaway. Like, he had very good moments in that game. A spaz is what he called it. He also had some weird turnovers. Like, he had some weird passes. He was doing like spin-a-roonies and losing the play.
Hawks, that's a spaz. Well, back in my day, the word spaz was derogatory. Oh, you think I'm saying it as a compliment right now? Apparently not. I think Seth Jones has been a great addition. Naturally, Brad Marchand gets all the attention as far as their late season addition. Seth Jones has been great. He's a reason that they're doing what they're doing right now.
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