Local Hour: What Can We Blame For the Panthers Loss?
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This is the Dan Levitar Show with the Stugatz Podcast. God damn it! We blew it. We got Tony. We got Dominic Foxworth. We got Charlie Kravitz. We got Chris Cody. Damn it, Tony. We got Izzy Gutierrez. I fell asleep. Don't blame me. I wasn't watching at the end. I would blame you. You did something. Everyone knows who Spalted is, all right? Roy Shaved. All right. We're going to confront him later on. Jonathan Zaslow is here. Man...

Those are the first words I've heard him speak all day. He's just been sitting our whole like hour-long pre-production meetings as just sitting on the couch journalist We were listening to yellow diamonds look like peepee. Oh don't they repeat on repeat Not a single head bob from Zazz. I'm hurt dog Zazz Unleash your first words on the audience. How are you feeling right now? I'm hurt dog. I mean, I'll be honest with you. I

I don't know why I'm a sports fan. Like, why even put myself through this? This is where we are. Like, why do I do this? Now, I'm not sitting here trying to tell you, oh, Suri's lost. No, it's not. Panthers are going to win the Stanley Cup. Let's be clear about that, okay? But...

Like it's ruined. Put on the scroll. Put on the crawl. Panthers win the Stanley Cup. I'm reporting that. But for the next 48 hours, like this, this, this, this. This is my life. Like this sucks. And I don't know why I do this to myself. I didn't sleep last night.

Game ends. I'm miserable. Get right up off the couch. Puck goes in the net. I can't even freaking believe that it slid past Bobrovsky. What a stupid goal. Poked it. Just poked it. It was an own goal. So stupid. Own goal. And I got up and went upstairs. I went to bed. You just said you didn't sleep. No, I didn't. I went to bed. I didn't say I went to sleep. You understand what to bed means, Israel? God.

I just have you just staring up at the ceiling. Yeah. Israel is also going on right now. It's just a rough day for trying to get a good night's sleep. Panthers blew a 3-0 lead. I'm sure the stats are out there, but that doesn't happen to Paul Murray's teams. It doesn't happen to the Florida Panthers. It doesn't happen in the Stanley Cup final, really. The last time something like this happened was 2006. We're so much better than them. We're so much better. Like everything you're just saying right now. Up 3-1, blow the lead. Up 3-1.

Up 3-0. Blow the lead. Search me over. But if you already know they're going to win, let's just worry about yesterday. Whose fault was it? Because at first I wanted to blame Chris Cody because Chris Cody gave us the stat, oh, whoever scores first wins that game. It's like, okay. After the first goal, I was like, he better not be wrong. But then when they went up 3-0, I was like, all right, that jinx is out the window. Cody's fine.

I was a little nervous, I'm not going to lie, when I saw Taylor Swift there. I'm like, not today, Taylor. Not now. Don't need that. Do it in the regular season, Taylor Swift. Don't just show up in the final. Why can't she go to a game? It's too much attention. If the Panthers lose, then it becomes a thing. Yes. And now it's a thing. We can't be her second team, and then she only shows up in the final, and then they end up losing. What do you mean her second team? Well, the Kansas City Chiefs are her first team. That's a different sport.

It doesn't matter. It's her team, and they won, right? They win. They win a lot. This team has already won, and now she joins in in the Stanley Cup final in a home game. Great, great for Sunrise, but then they lose, and now everybody's like, okay, Taylor Swift is the reason they lost. Yeah, but you're saying this as if she's now this Panther fan. Why can't she just attend the Stanley Cup finals game? She was wearing red. Yeah.

Oh, she wants to fit in. She was wearing like... I know Travis Kelton. They have a home down here in South Florida. And the Chiefs are red. They were. I mean, they live in Boca. Yeah, so they want to go to a Stanley Cup final game. Very clearly big time Panther fans. It was a big mistake. But if you think Taylor Swift was the curse, then you don't follow European soccer. One of the biggest losers in the history of soccer was in the building in Harry Kane. It's his fault.

He was wearing a Panther jersey. We can blame Jason Taylor, too. The Dolphins have a terrible—I think we're like 0-7 now. I think it's 0-7 now. 0-7 when a Dolphins player bangs the drum. I hated that pick. I love Jason Taylor. Hated that pick. Really? I was good with it. If you're going to go Dolphin, he's who you go. You're not a current Dolphin. That's the problem for me. He was a Jet.

He feels like somebody they always have in the back pocket. And so this felt like, hey, let's go somewhere grand. Oh, we couldn't get anybody. Let's go get JT. I guess having a guy that turned his back on the franchise and went to a hated rival to close his career is apropos, considering all the Bradmore Sean jerseys that are in that crowd. It plays right to them.

Dominique, you are a new Panther fan. You're in our Panther hockey chat. He's also on his knees for some reason. Tony's just that tall. No, he's standing normal. Did you turn the TV off up 3-0? No. So I had gone fishing with my son, and I got back to them up 3-0. Felt good about it. So maybe it might be your fault. It could be my fault. I was at a dance recital. Now, I was watching the game.

I was watching the game. Dance recitals, by the way. Mike, get out of the game. So I got three kids. First two, athletes. Third one, wanted to dance. We did like three months of it. Went to one recital. Game over. No more dancing. We're done with it. Why is it so bad?

Okay, let me tell you why. I don't have girls. I don't know. I've never been to a dance recital. Here's why it's so bad. Boys can dance too. Don't be a Joe Flacco. There was one boy in there and he did a number to Usher's OMG and it was great. It was fantastic. And that was one of the few bright spots in this program. They did Maleficent.

And, you know, it was kind of weird. I don't remember Usher's OMG during that tale. But my daughter is five years old. And the younger troops, they go a little bit earlier and they don't have, they had one number. This is a two and a half hour show. That's the part that's annoying. Watching your kid, fun. It was great. Watching the seven other performances that your kid isn't in, not fun. Seven. Seven. Seven.

There were 22 numbers in this thing. My daughter had one number. It was the third number in the show. Why couldn't you dip after that? You can't because I can't pick up my hostage. That's it. That's why we're like, hey, you either be an athlete or you don't do nothing. You better hit them books because what we're not going to do, they hold your kids hostage in the back of the recital. And then they do a whole recital. And then at the end, they leave time so we can celebrate the instructions. Didn't I pay you? Is that not celebration enough? I didn't.

I need to go home. I got one-upped here. So when we were doing the NBA Finals watch party, I was at my niece's recital. She went third also, Mike. Did a couple little tap dances, everything was great. She any good?

Yeah, she was fine. She was helping some of the other kids. I'll tell you, the number, for as hard as my daughter worked on this in several months, I'm like, this is the effort we put forth? This is not even synchronized. I can't tell if my daughter is on beat or off. Is she any good? No. My niece did all right. But what I did have some issue with was this. So, right before intermission...

older ladies come out out of nowhere and it's all the teachers of the classes and they start doing a number and then the lady that owns the the shop she's there like you know bett midler doing her thing and like screaming and we're like we're like what do you do it like it's for it's for the kids you got a five minute number here you did three times the amount of length of every other girl so check out the bait and switch that they gave me last night luckily i left early curtains close

All right, great. They'll come out. I get to see my daughter again. This is fantastic. What time are we at now? It's...

8.27. The game is six minutes into it. I am following along on my app. Everything is fine. It's 0-0. Okay? Curtains... Alright, great. Hang on, everybody. We got one special surprise. Alright. Cool. What is this? Hopefully it's quick. We have to honor our graduating class. So, eight girls go over there. They each have an individual dance for their graduation. And you still don't have your daughter in your profession. I still don't have my daughter. I have to stay in my seat. And then...

They all say something to the instructors because it's all about them. These dance recitals ain't about your kid. It's about the instructors that you pay hundreds of dollars to every month, and they just get their shine, and then everyone speaks, but they have to honor. This was a sentence that was uttered. I'll be brief. Let me start at the beginning. Yeah.

That's something that happened. This girl was there for 16 years in this dance troupe, and she walked me through each and every one of those 16 years. It was terrible. By the time I got out of there, the Panthers were on that five-on-three power play. It was just brutal. Now, I did get to watch the goal, so I don't think it's necessarily my fault because I was following the game. But I did feel some type of way. By the time I got home, three unanswered goals. Very bad. Actually, four unanswered goals. Was there ever any consideration –

to telling your wife that you're out for the recital? No. You don't have daughters. Spoken like a guy who does not have a dance recital on his resume. Couldn't pull off a my team needs me situation. No, and then you gotta do all the photos and you do the flowers. I don't mind it if I'm

Around my daughter, that is worthy of my time. If there is ever a chance to miss Game 4 of the Stanley Cup to honor your daughter, you're around your daughter. It's a two and a half hours that I'm not around my daughter and not allowed to grab my daughter, and I got to do all this pomp and circumstance. I got to be honest. So, like, I became last year, I never ran track, but last year I became a track dad. And my daughter, my oldest is in her second year. Is it because you're too slow? Yeah, that's it. Mostly because I was scared to embarrass myself. Okay. And so...

I'm in my second year of track, and track meets take forever. They're like full weekend events all day each weekend, and it's hot. But you're outside. You can come and go as you please. My son and I bring baseball gloves. We play catch. We bring iPads. People have tents, and they have all these other things. But what reminded me when you were talking about the instructors doing their little pop and lock routine so they can get some shine, it reminded me that at all of these track meets, at some point,

They have a coach's race. And every time I'm rooting for the Achilles. Yeah. I'm rooting for it. Come on, Hammy. I need the sniper to come out. Boop, boop.

My favorite part of the pomp and circumstance is all the graduates are getting their cap and gown and their individual numbers and honoring the instructors. Is the groan from like the seven dads in the crowd that are in the same exact position. When Matthew Kachuk, by that point I'd spilled outside and I'm in this waiting cell waiting to see my daughter. And when Matthew Kachuk scored, I heard like three yells from the back.

of the dudes following along on their phone. We were held hostage last night, and it wasn't fair. Me and my wife will split up. Like, I'll leave the recital like five minutes early and go to the spot so I'm the first parent. Like, I hate that parent line of like, let's wait single file to get our kid one at a time. Like, no. You know how Zazz sleeps when the Panthers win? Show them how you sleep when the Panthers win. Like this, eyes wide open. No, when they win. Oh, when they win. Oh.

That's how I turn every single time parents complain about having kids. You idiots. There are so many blessings. There are good things, too. There are days like this. There are days like this. Very few rewards in that. I mean, one thing, her future was dance. But very clearly, not in the cards for my daughter. This is a social thing. And I'm happy with the social development. But...

Game four of the Stanley Cup final, me missing an entire first period because I'm out there playing this game. I'm so jealous of the track meet thing where you can just get up whenever you'd like. I can't get up and be like, excuse me, in the middle of, you know. And also, track meet is competition. Like, we like competition. And the recital, like, it's a beautiful expression. I didn't grow up and dance, but, like,

it's hard to get your heart going, hard to get your heart rate up when you're out there running and racing. Even if you don't know the kids, you're like, oh, all right, I see you. I see you, blue shirt. It's

It's a little different. Well, I guess the young man who did Oh My God, I imagine that. That was cool. The crowd popped for that. Yeah, I can't. I was like, oh, this is cool. But then there's like 17 solos of like 15 year olds dancing. I gotta be honest. Don't care about you. Don't care. Just move it along. I'm following along on the program. Just counting them down. Counting them down. Bad. Bad.

Don Levitard. You have some hot takes today. Joe Chestnut's a fraud. Oh, he's on fire. He called Connor McDavid overrated before the show. What the hell was that, Greg? Yeah, no. I love it. Stugatz. Roy, let me explain it to you. You know more about hockey than I do. And this is coming from a guy that's watched Connor play six times. Right. If that. This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz.

Let's talk a little bit more about the game because super uncharacteristic of the Florida Panthers to blow a lead like this. Twice now. Terrible. This series is all-time great. Three of the games have gone to overtime. Is this the first time in Stanley Cup history that you've had two late equalizers under 20 seconds and then the team that equalizes and has that huge emotional boost?

ends up losing in overtime. Panthers had their chances in overtime. Edmonton also had their chances in overtime. The goal that won it, a lot like Brad Marchand's, really unimpressive, just kind of slides in because being a goalie is hard.

I thought Stuart Skinner was good. Skinner? I thought he was good. I know he gave up three goals, but in watching what I did watch on my phone from the stance recital, I was impressed with the guy. It could have been 6-0. This is why I fell asleep very easily. Very happy last night. Because I went, you know, they pulled their goalie and basically we're at a point where everything is...

at stake here. If they don't win this game, series is over. If they don't come back, they might collapse. They might kill each other in that locker room. That's how angry they will be with each other after that. And they had the appropriate rally. But they don't have a goalie. They don't have a good goalie anyway. Stuart Skinner was doing okay. He had his moments. But the last couple of games, they had his number, right, to the point that they pulled him. Now you've got Pickard, however you pronounce it in there. And there were some signs. There were some signs where he's going to get eaten up eventually. That makes me feel like I'm with you.

There's a clear advantage there for the Panthers. And I like to think that that will... I can already see the offseason where it's just like Edmonton, they have to win the Cup. They need to improve their goalie situation. And they sort of try to upgrade there. I follow. But most people listening to us probably think that we're a little crazy because they put the guy in. They got their spark. He made a big-time save on Sam Bennett. And now it's tied. Oh, my God. I was up on my feet, man. How did Bennett not score that? And look...

Full credit to Edmonton. All right. Also, Panthers will win the Stanley Cup.

Let's be clear about that. But full credit to Ed. I know, that's why it's on the crawl. But let's be, let's, full credit to Edmonton. All right. It was such a guts win and a guts performance from the Oilers. We were going to win that game 10-0 after the first period. I got by blowing you out. Like, I was so excited. And for Edmonton, that's right. That's why I was screaming after we were up 3-0. Blowing you out.

Wait, you tweeted? No, I didn't tweet. No, I don't tweet during games. I got sent a tweet that said, how we feeling? Up 3-0. Okay, that could be about anything. It was right after the third goal. Did we find another jinxer? You're just vibe checking? Another jinxer? I'm at a dance recital. Not great. He literally just said, I don't tweet during games. You don't know what that was about.

But you tweeted. I tweeted how you feel? During a game. During a game. Well, it was actually intermission. Right after the third goal. It was a break in the play. Who were you speaking to? You gotta, come on. We gotta admit when we're wrong here. Wrong about what? Trying to check in on people, ask how you're doing? I feel like I'm being a nice person. You said you didn't tweet during the games. Yeah, don't tweet about games. Okay. I dare you to find proof. I dare you to find proof that that was about anything. I don't know.

I'll wait forever. I don't want to do this with you. All right. I'm clear on how this will go for me. So you're just doing a mental health check-in on the earth? Yeah, that's right. It's been a hard month. Israel just attacked Iran. How are you doing? How are you feeling? It's Thursday. We're almost at the weekend. How are we doing? All right. So it was a guts win. And where the goalie change did spark them, and you've got to keep Skinner on the pine,

For this next game, because while I agree, I don't think this is their strongest goalie. They certainly rallied around him. It was like pulling teeth trying to get a clear shot on goal. They were blocking shots. That Kachuk opportunity that fell to his stick where two Edmonton Oilers converge and they block it with both their knees. I got somebody else to blame, actually. In the pregame, those guys, when they saw the...

When they saw Skinner and our backup goalie, who's our backup goalie? Doesn't matter. When they were facing... Nice! When they were... Oh, this guy. I was looking for him. He's not there? That's pretty damning. When they did their... Damning about what? I admit that the tweet went out there. It's damning. What am I asking about? Look at the time. What the hell else are you going to be asking about? I told you, I was bored. It was during intermission. Oh, yeah, you were bored. I'm checking on everyone's doing. Up 3-0, you were bored. How we doing? I happened to feel great at that time. Cool. Cool.

That's why I asked. But when they did the face-off thing, they acted like, oh my God, this is next level trolling by the Panthers. And then you just let the segment play out a little bit. And they were told, oh, you know, they do that all the time. And the only difference was somebody else came up to say something in between. And I was just like, all right, you guys aren't on your game. This doesn't feel right. Like, I think there's just going to be something off tonight. I've got someone else to blame if we're going to do this. And it's really more of a challenge. Hmm.

You guys all watched the game. Who do you think was the worst player on the ice for the Florida Panthers? Who flashed the most poorly? Wait a second. With that smile, I know where you're going with this. Who was...

Who was the weakest player? Who was making uncharacteristic mistakes? I got mad at Kulikov. I got mad at Kulikov a couple times in the game. Kulikov does Kulikov things. Like, you can't get too mad. Where was Gustav Forsling? He's playing well. I thought Forsling was good. Oh, that's the other Panther I know. I know whose fault it was. It wasn't Seth's. I know that. He wasn't great. Hey. No, he was not good. He wasn't good. It certainly wasn't. Be careful. When we were five on three, it was Nurse and Evander Kane, and I was like, Dominic, this is not cool what they're doing. He's my favorite oiler.

Mine's Earl Campbell. It was Alexander Barkov. The delay game was really bad. And if you want to look at what happened last night, the play that ended up being

Being one of the biggest plays in this series was you have four Panthers in their neutral zone. You have Edmonton doing a line shift. You have Ryan Nugent Hopkins behind Sergei Bobrovsky. The puck takes a bounce off the stripes and stays pinned behind the net. And Nugent Hopkins is there fighting. I don't like Ryan Nugent Hopkins. Pick a last name. I agree.

He's there. He's winning a puck battle, and the puck bounces to Alexander Barkov's stick, and he's just way too casual with it, and he has a back-breaking turnover that leads to a go-ahead goal. Now, one of the more improbable goals I've ever seen in my entire life because that game felt like a loss. A UFO could have landed on center ice and would have been more likely in my mind than the Florida Panthers tying that game in the fashion that they did.

A snipe from Sam Reinhardt, really tough angle, though Carter Verhage would have been there to put it away. Yep.

But an incredible equalizer. And naturally, you feel like vibes are high. Panthers had great chances. Forsling makes a kick save and a beaut. The puck somehow stays out of your net and you feel like, oh my God, we're going to have an opportunity on a Saturday night. You're going to have an opportunity on a Saturday night to lift Lord Stanley over your head in Edmonton. We're going to at least have that chance. And 3-1, they hold serve at home. You have game six at home. You're like, okay, we have a margin of error here. Now, you head back to Edmonton. It's 2-2.

If Edmonton wins, it's not the end of the world. You know, you got your home game and you try to force game seven, but you're in a two out of three with Edmonton. With two of the games at Edmonton, vibes are totally different now. You got a game five for your life. I hate what they took from us. I feel like the vibe should be there, though. Like, I don't want to get so Panther focused on this. This should be a 2-2 series. These teams are so close. Chris. Chris.

I'm not going to let you get away with acting like Zazz is the only one that's stressed out. So I'm sitting in the office this morning. Chris is in the back room getting makeup. And all I hear every 30 seconds or so.

God damn it! Totally. No, I'm pissed. But I just... I'm trying to be level-headed here. How is this different than Game 2, where they down 1-0 and they have to win in Edmonton? How is this different than last year? They lost. It's a big difference. Game 2... I know you're saying the scenario, but you have an entire series. Now that... You're more...

The puck is not round. Like weird things happen. Look at that game winning goal. You're one of the more dominant teams in recent memory and you're going up against an irresistible force, which by the way, Connor McDavid, again, I thought he was going to be more aggressive. Not well, the first couple, that first shift of the game, you knew he was kind of God, but McDavid had the puck for like a minute straight. Dry sidle, uh, has been a menace this entire series. Uh,

Leon Dreisaitl. White Leon. We have a white Leon and a white Anton in this series. I mean, I gotta say that... There's a lot of white Leons. I believe that... We did the research. It's a misnomer. Y'all gentrify Leon. Leon is a white name. Name a famous black Leon. Curb your enthusiasm. Yeah. Leon Bridges. Yeah, that's a good one. Name a real famous black Leon. Well, he said Leon Bridges.

Hey, puck's a round. I was going to say, what shape is it? Pucks are round. They're not a ball. They're not spherical. They're round. Well, a football is roundish, but it's oblong. It takes funny bounces. There's a part of the puck that's not roundish. Like, that thing is round. No, that biscuit gets...

when that ice is choppy. And now you open yourself up to something really random swinging this series because you couldn't hold a three-goal lead. And that's not what the Panthers do. Now, here's what the Panthers do do. They bounce back. They don't let things like this get to them. If you could have any team in the history of South Florida sports that you would trust with wearing this for a couple of days and doing the right things, it'd be this Florida Panther team, right, Izzy?

Yeah, and this is why I'm just shocked at the level of anger that there is here because you've been through this, right? And we know we're up to nothing. Honestly. Yeah. The anger is that I have to stew like this until at least tomorrow night. That's literally the anger. I do have to. You could have said it's on the crawl. They're going to win. You can decide how you feel right now. No.

I wish that I could. That's why after the game last night, I'm just saying to myself, why do I even like sports? Who introduced me to sports? Why do I care about this? That's what I was thinking last night. Because yes, I know the Panthers are going to the Stanley Cup. Let's be clear about that.

But I have to now feel this way for at least the start of my weekend. I'm going to be miserable, and I don't know why I like sports. The randomness of the series is happening. It's three overtime games. What the Panthers did by winning 6-1 is allowing for the random to happen, and then they're just in a tie. Right, three overtime. So why are you so confident?

Because if they lose a seven-game series and five of those games are in overtime and all four of the losses are overtime goals, you know what I'm going to say? Great effing series. But I don't want to lose. Okay, great. I'd like to win. Yeah, if that happens, lose four games in overtime, you know what I'm going to say? See you on the way down as I jump out the window. What I'm going to say is I'll see you next year. See you next year for part three. By the way, we've been looking up back here. We don't know too many white Leons that are famous either. Is Leon a dying name? Leon Rose?

That's one, okay. Well, Leon the professional. Okay, two. Yeah, he's French. And Leon's right side. It's not on us. We named three white Leons. Name a black Leon. Not a lot of American white Leons. How about Leon? Leon Medical Center? That's going to be goaded right there. Leon Medical Center? I will say that the entire series, even after 6-1, I wasn't sure who was winning this series. What? I wasn't. I know it's an exclusive report today, so thankfully I know who's going to win now.

Thanks to your exclusive reporting. But even after 6-1, I'm like, I expect Edmonton to come out. I was really surprised that Florida went up 3-0. And when they went up 3-0, it's the first time I sat back on my couch. I'm like, holy cow, we're going to win the Stanley Cup. We're going to win back-to-back Stanley Cups. We're better than them. We are better than them.

Are we? So you were home by the time they were up 3-0? Yeah, I got home by the time. So it might be my fault, even though, may I remind you yet again. You should have stayed at the Dancer's Title. May I remind you, Roy shaved.

Okay, this is a member of the pro hockey writers association. We're efforting to get him on that is the one thing like I think Roy just shaved and then he did the Roy thing of like I'm not gonna give the night before I had a dream that our nightmare if you will that I Accidentally shaved my beard and like I woke up and I hadn't seen the show yet I put it in the chat. Hey, and then I saw that Roy shaved and I was just like, oh, okay. I'm good. I

Because my dream means nothing. He's the idiot who shaved. He should know better. He should know better. And I get what you're saying. Like, he just shaved and he didn't think of the consequences. And I'd be like, okay, if this is a routine thing for Roy, I can understand how he'd realize that, oh, I probably shouldn't have done this. Roy is never clean shaven.

He's never, ever clean shaven. What happened there? Did he screw up on a tape? What happened? Because he was traveling maybe today to Edmonton. He's like, I got to shave before I travel. I don't want to bring my razor across the border, so let me get this out of the way right now. I haven't seen, genuinely, I haven't seen Roy clean shaven in the better part of a decade. When's the last time you've seen Roy clean shaven? Yeah, I'm with you. I don't think we've been in this building with a clean shaven Roy. And he decides during the Stanley Cup final to be clean shaven? No.

I'm not saying it's his fault. I'm saying it's something to consider. Timing is peculiar, though. Man, this is bullshit. So you think that they're going to win game five?

Yeah, I think they're going to win game five. We're better than them. Lose two games in overtime in both those games. You have multi-goal leads. The Oilers have led. I mean, I'm doing quick math here. I didn't bring my abacus with me, but the Oilers have led for a total of, I think, like 20 minutes the entire series. Well, entering yesterday was nine minutes. Right. I think they led for like the final 12 minutes of the third period. Right. Until until we tied it with 19 seconds. Yeah.

It works though, right? Does it? I think so. Put it on the poll. Do you know what an abacus is? Only answer if you're under 30.

I mean, it's a seven-game series. Things like this happen. Remember, didn't the Portland Trailblazers get swept in a series that they led the vast majority of the time? No way. That doesn't happen in the NBA. In the Western Conference? Yeah, it was a series that I think KD was not in. He was hurt. Was that five or four? But I know that if you look at the time led... The Super 4. Well, did they get swept in that? Yeah, they got swept. They got swept. So let's look it up. I think Portland led...

I think that's when KD had the calf injury, and then that's when he came back in the finals, and then that's when he tore his Achilles. So it can happen. It can happen. It's not what you do in terms of having a lead. It's who's winning at the end of the game when it's triple zero. Or when you have a walk-off, I guess, in hockey. Obviously, it depends on how the series shakes out. But that's potentially... Right now, it's the worst loss in Panther history, right? Yeah.

That's up there. All-time choke job. I thought game one was the worst loss in Panther history. Last night was obviously worse. Last night's the worst loss in Panther history. I'm not arguing with you. Are we looking in this series at the two worst losses in Panther's history? Yes. Let's expand it out. That one felt bad last night. In terms of most devastating losses. What do you disagree with? Most devastating losses, choke jobs. What you define as a choke job, which is our win probability is up there in the 90s. We're feeling good about things. We can't lose this game tonight.

In the history of South Florida sports, name a bigger choke job. I'm not disagreeing with it being potentially the worst loss in Panthers history because outside of one year, these last three years are the most important, the most high-level games. And so, yes, if it was that, not that bad. Bigger choke job. Because, again, you're only tied in the final, and you believe to be the better team, and you believe you can go win a road game. So it really—it's not like—

You know, the Game 5 loss, Miami-Boston, where LeBron had to go up there to Boston. That gap between Game 5 and Game 6, everybody thought it was over. Everybody thought that was the worst loss ever. We're never going to recover from this. This feels like delaying the gratitude that's inevitable because you said it. What's a bigger choke job, Jonathan Zaslow, in the history of South Florida sports with stakes attached?

Last night, up 3-0 after one against Edmonton or LeBron and Dwayne Wade shadow boxing. Game 2, 2011. Game 2, 2011. Because game 2, 2011 is the worst loss in Heat history. That's worse right now because we know the outcome.

But if the Panthers do not win the Stanley Cup, I'm going to go with last night being the worst in the history of South Florida sports. There was a was a game three in Dallas where Wade missed a bunch of free throws in that series. We won game three. We won game four. Wade missed a bunch of free throws in Dallas and Dallas ended up winning that.

And then they won the very next game. Game 4, the Heat were up by 4 with like 2 minutes left. They still lost. Game 5, they were up by 9 early in the fourth quarter, which back then, by the way, was a big lead. Yeah, big deal. And they lost that game also. But Game 2 is the worst loss in Heat history. Last night's the worst loss in Panther history. If the Panthers don't win the Stanley Cup, this will eclipse that. A couple of updates. The new Pope, White Leon, 9-0.

Number two, Western Conference Finals 2019, Blazers led for more minutes than the Warriors despite losing in four games in a sweep. 101 to 83 minutes led. Wow. You're shocked how much I know ball. It happens sometimes. I surprise folks. I don't like what's happening in this room behind me. These two back here. I think I'm an Oilers fan now. Yeah, I'm an Oilers fan. Tony, you want to be an Oilers fan? I didn't want to be. I didn't want to be. I'm watching the game wanting to want the Panthers to win.

I wanted to want them to win, but you didn't. But then I saw the way that the Oilers were fighting. One-arm goal from my dog Leon and them boys. I mean, to get blown out 6-1 and then to be down 3-3.

to zero and to fight back and then go down one and fight back. Is this even their best comeback in this playoffs? Like they've done this I feel like every round. Well I haven't watched those rounds. It's Dreisaitl's fourth overtime winner in a single postseason. Woo! Dreisaitl and McDavid each have three 30 point postseasons. Ugh!

That ties Mark Messier for second best in franchise history. The great one had six such 30-point postseasons. Really good. Two of the best players on the planet. And we haven't seen the best of Connor McDavid, though he had another one of those. Had he scored that goal? And Bobrovsky, I know they went high on him, and that's a scouting report on Bob, and you can get frustrated here, but Bobrovsky's been so dynamite. He was really good last night. True. Really good.

He's been outstanding this postseason. And really, I understand Sam Bennett's been great. Ah, Sam Bennett. You guys are not afraid that he's going to leave, right? No. No. I got a little bit more information, breaking news, if you will, about Sam Bennett. Hold up. We have a thing for that? Okay. Okay.

Not that. Go ahead. That's the breaking news sounder. Okay. Hit it one more time if you don't mind. All right. I'm ready. Sam Bennett. So if you're afraid that he might leave and if the money's just going to be too much for him to stay and he goes elsewhere, here's what I've learned about Sam Bennett that makes me think he's going to stay put. He loves American Social and Fort Lauderdale. No, that's secondary. But put that on the scroll as well. That's a good nugget, though. That's a good secondary nugget. Sam Bennett does not like new people. That's true.

Very much is not good. That is very much in favor of Sting. It's a very distinct part about his personality that people say about him. So no new people means no new team for Sam Bennett. Sting, put that on the crawl. Sam Bennett does not like new people. Is he a Louis Bossy kind of guy? Uh,

I don't know that. That's more in the Chris realm. I'm more of his personality. Chris knows where he more hangs out. Gotcha. When we went to 11 for that Stanley Cup championship celebration. Best night of my life. It was up there. It was up there. Sorry, Ethan. There were a lot of interactions with Panthers. We had a great time with Ryan Lomberg. I was shocked at how nice Sam Bennett was to me.

He's shocked because this guy is like a cerebral assassin. He hates new people. He's a terminator. He loved me. I actually had an awkward interaction with Sam Bennett, actually. At American Social? No, at 11 that night. Because we were all hanging out. It was so much fun. You're just like, oh, there's him, there's him. And Sam Bennett one time goes to the bathroom as I'm walking by. I'm like, Sam's going in there. You follow him in? I'm going to go in there, too.

And there's like a line. This is why he doesn't like new people Chris. And there's like a line. So I'm like just behind him. And like I'm like what do I do? So I literally am just like.

I can't believe they're making Sam Bennett wait in this line. And he just like turned around and was just like, don't say my name, you idiot. People don't know who I am. He was just, he gave me this look of like, it wasn't like, oh man, good to see you. It was just like, and I just turned around and walked away. I was like, that was so embarrassing. So you didn't get to pee next to him? No. So who's the most famous person you've peed next to? Ray Lewis at the Fronton. Dave Chappelle for me.

Wow. Hold on. Was he smoking a cigarette? Smoking a cig at the stall? Well, Dominique, you've probably peed next to Ray Lewis plenty. Yeah, I guess. Tangentially. Yeah. Well, you don't tangentially pee next to somebody. Tangentially. If you're at a trough, maybe. A little redundant. Who's the most famous person, non-Baltimore Ravens, that you've peed next to?

Can I get a second to think about it? Yeah, yeah. There's so many. You don't have an active list? Alex Turner, Arctic Monkeys, Zach Thomas, at the Fronton, but the Dania Fronton. Oh, the old school Fronton. Does it count if I was fake peeing? Yeah. That's just weird. I don't know. You were fake peeing just to be around this person's presence? No, we've gone over this. Shy bladder. Okay, yeah. It counts. That's a medical condition. Then Mark Kotze.

All right, so we've established the low rung. Ray Lewis is king of the mountain, I think. Ray Lewis is king of the mountain. I got a good one. Dave Chappelle's not ahead of Ray Lewis. Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Dave Chappelle's ahead of him. Ray Lewis is higher. Yep. How many rings does Dave Chappelle have? How many people has he killed? A couple, maybe. Tony, who you got? Stephen A. Smith.

Wow, that's it's Chappelle Stephen a that's like where we're at really Stephen a's up there with Chappelle I'm saying just below I'm saying your president next conversation. I would put Stephen on I mean if we're talking just raw fame like if you showed a picture of a purse this picture to a person on the street and

I think you, I mean, Dave Chappelle has not been as public for a long time. I think if we went across the street with two pictures, we hold up one Chappelle, one Stephen A. No. This is such an ESPN brand. It might be neck and neck. Hold on. Hold on. You didn't even cut me off. It's so stupid. Neck and neck? Can I get neck and neck? We did cut you off. Yep.

Did you just say, hold on, you didn't even cut me off as we were cutting him off? That kind of thing. You've got to get through. You tried to cut me off. You didn't even successfully cut me off. That's what you meant to say. You need to get off, get up. You need to get up, get up. I feel bad for Charlie. He clearly hasn't peed next to anybody famous. Literally no one. I was racking my brains like, do I lie? Do I try and come up with like, say, Owen Wilson out of the blue? And it's like, wow. He said, wow. I just said neck and neck.