The Big Suey: Dan Le Batard's Feud With Canada
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Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.

Does anyone have any recommendations for me on what it is that I'm going to do to escalate this with Edmonton? Because I'm not going to take this note sitting down, even though I'm presently sitting down. But is leaving it alone and going on vacation an option? No. Oh, okay. Yeah. I'm...

I would want my community leaders, my business owners to cape up for me the way that Edmonton is. By the way, Boston flight at noon was not on the whiteboard in the Florida Panthers locker room, but when the Celtics were coming down to Miami...

I was furious that any nightlife establishment was considering serving them. I think they ended up going to someplace in Wynwood. And I'm hoping it's because all the marquee places were like, we are not going to do this. It still bothers me that the Mavericks went to live after and celebrated and got those images. So if I'm an Edmonton Oilers fan and understanding oil country, it's just different there. I'm happy that they're keeping you at bay.

How long do you want to commit to this feud? Because I have an idea, but it's a long-term plan. It always is. Well, I'd like something that gets results this week. Well, this is more painful results. Do you want maximum pain or do you want quick punishment? I can take all options. I'd like to execute something that isn't just us talking about doing things and in the true Metal Ark way, never actually doing them. You giving me a long play idea that we will get down the road on the way we

did on this one and then not submit the right dimensions and then get rejected i don't want to do it that way anymore well this is maximum vengeance but it's a lot of work from you here's what i'm thinking we have a show called because miami what you could do is start a show called because edmonton and long term we can just support all of the candidates who are against the local officials who are stopping you and vote all of them out of office like and get all of them fired

So just throw your money behind anyone that is running against anyone in office right now that's keeping you from putting up this billboard and get all of them kicked out. I like the idea of use your vote for strength. Exactly. We could just waste money supporting anyone who's running against them. Now, there are dangers with that. But if we just want them out of office, you got to give your money to anyone. That was efficient. I mean...

billiest office through i like that it's not it's not a solution these are not politicians that have kept us from putting up there is no hold on and if because miami endorses you pack your bags you hold on though well wait because like there is a government agency who's actively gotten in the way of this show because we had the rat czar booked on the show and then the agency prevented that person from coming on and i believe they also send a statement i don't know if i'm supposed to

say that, but I believe they also like issued a statement as to why the rat czar could not come on. So like government agencies are involving themselves in this entire scandal. This is a benign billboard. Okay. At one point there was going to be an asterisk across the bottom to Billy's factual point. There was going to be just in small print on the bottom. You do have 31 rats according to the internet.

And that's what it was going to say with an asterisk at the bottom. But all it says, all it reads is Greg Cody was right. And you know it. I'm surprised that Mike Ryan is against freedom and is for censorship. I'm not surprised that his delicate feelings would try and protect the feelings of local residents and sports fans who have their feelings hurt.

because you say someone was right. There is nothing offensive. When they write in, we have declined your request for advertising. Part of our creative approval process includes aligning with community standards and respecting the sensibilities of all stakeholders, including our audience, as if the audience has won.

one opinion who in this case are the citizens of edmonton as well as our partners and this messaging does not meet those standards you have to donate to a charity with like some sort of like stipulation with it because they can't turn down money for charity great point

That is a very well-written letter, and I think it speaks to the reasons why they're doing this. And I understand you want to call trolling a team that just suffered a bitter defeat in what is, for many people in that country, the most important sports moment of their lives. I understand why you would call it benign, but it's not. You're actively going out of your way to troll. That is who you're looking to get a reaction from. And Mike is saying you want your local businesses to protect you from stuff like that. Dan is saying, no, don't protect me from that. If Boston beats us...

Let him put up billboards. If Mike Mazzarotti wants to put up a billboard, let him do it. Hold on a second. If I remember correctly, one billboard has been put up by them here. That's correct. So we're not instigating anything. We are reacting to an instigation. We are responding to a first shot across the bow.

Yeah, I think that now that you've won, I mean, go for it. I understand why they're stopping it. And I don't think we should be surprised why they're stopping it. And I do think that there's some public safety aspects to this, some destruction of property aspects to this that they're protecting themselves from.

I have another idea. Let's buy the billboard company and fire everyone. Great idea. And then just put this billboard on all of their billboards. Billy, do you think that I don't notice that all of your ideas bankrupt metal art? Not necessarily. You then own a billboard company and you could sell the billboards. I'm sorry. New revenue stream. I'm trying to grow the...

brand. All our budget's already gone to trying to get this one over on Tom Brady by buying the Pro Football Hall of Fame induction ceremony. Oh yeah, remember that? The inflatable stage? Where do we stand on that? I forgot about that.

Things change quick here, man. Lots of business ideas. There are so many ideas that don't get executed, that just get talked about. They just, we quick, quickly we move from one to the other. So let's do one. Which do you want? Do you want us to buy a party planning company? I want to do these billboards. I want to do something that is close to the billboards. I want to do something that

else. I don't want to just lose and wander away. Can you put them in Calgary? Is that alright? Calgary would love Vancouver would love to put those signs all up in their provinces. Winnipeg? What's the closest city to

to Calgary. What is the closest city? Red Deer. Why are you putting it in Calgary? I mean, Edmonton. I'm sorry. What's the closest city? Major city. Yeah, because you're saying put it in Vancouver, but Vancouver is like, you know, many, many, many, many hundreds of miles away. I just know that Vancouver was really like there. The Canucks fans seem to be because they were eliminated by the Oilers seem to be passionately rooting against the Oilers while the rest of

Eastern Canada was aligned. Calgary and Vancouver fans were pretty much going for the Panthers. Geographically, how close are they to each other? That's what I'm saying. I am not good at geography, but one of the reasons that I enjoyed what Stugatz did is I just watched how the hamster works in his head. He made it many, many, many, many hundreds of miles because he has no earthly idea of

How vast Canada is and how far Vancouver is from Edmonton. I, too, am terrible at geography. I just assume it's thousands of miles. Calgary is three hours away from Edmonton. Okay. I drove down there. 300 kilometers. You drove there? Many, many, many, many, many hundreds of kilometers. Here's what we do. We get a mobile billboard company in Calgary. There you go.

To then drive to Edmonton and drive around town with the billboards. Because if Calgary takes our money, we then drive them over to Edmonton. That's a good idea. That's a good idea.

That is a good idea. I've had lots of good ideas. No, the others were all terrible. But what if something happens to the driver? This is something that the company has to... You're going to have to take out an insurance policy. Again, Mike, Greg Cody was right. It's a taunt that you have to have been totally familiar with what our show is and what it's been doing. Right, and it's Canada. Wow.

I don't know. You haven't had a lot of recent history to pull from, but there's on your ESPN app. Go open it up. There's a 30 for 30 on what happened to Vancouver after they lost game seven. It was 2011, wasn't it? Yeah. It was the first ever social media riots. Yes. The riots of Vancouver. Again, this is just Greg Cody's face smoking a cigar. It says hockey nowhere on it.

You have to be familiar with either Greg Cody, what he said, or this show. Keep in mind, the Vancouver fans didn't have an actual physical thing to be angry at. It started with them throwing beer bottles at a monitor that was just showing the game. If you've given them a place to actually congregate, I understand why people are saying no. Don't be governed by fear, and you can argue on their behalf all you like. You can understand on their behalf all you like.

all you like this is benign it is sports fun and i am being denied the right to speak freely by a billboard company uh because eloquently uh yes they did do it eloquently they argue on behalf of censorship the way the censorship uh deniers do eloquently in a way that's persuasive and convincing so persuasive and convincing they've made you against free speech i i look i i understand

It is dawning on me that I'm very amongst this group on the higher tier of passionate sports fans. Like, I care about this stuff a little bit more than everybody else. I'm just offering an explanation as to why this might not be the greatest idea. Right.

People care in that country the way that I do. It's not the greatest idea because it should have gone up earlier, should have gone up during this series. You're right, but everyone has a price, Dan. Everyone has a price. Get someone on from this billboard company. Let me talk to them. Seriously, everyone has a price.

Double what you're offering, and I guarantee you those billboards go up. All right. Stugatz just made some more work for himself. Called in the closer. The Stugatz reservation call now meets billboard companies. Get me someone. All right. Can we get someone? Let's try this in the next segment. I'd like Stugatz to talk to somebody. I don't think we can do it live. Physically, I want to do it. I want to exert maximum public pressure.

on the entrepreneurs of Edmonton who are denying our money on something that I believe to be a harmless joke, a harmless inside joke at that that most people aren't going to get that is for our amusement. You have the people of Edmonton rioting the way they did in Vancouver at Greg Cody's face. I have them absolutely destroying this billboard. It would be more of a fight than Conor McDavid put up the last two games. He won the conspite. And he needs surgery.

Everybody needs surgery. Come on, hockey player. Feelings get hurt. He needs feeling surgery. That is always an amazing response from sports fans. It's the hardest trophy to hold in sports. Everyone's physically broken. Stugatz has been complaining about his back pain for three months. Every single day he comes in here. Yesterday it was sciatica. The sphere, Dano. He can't even pronounce the word. And he's also the guy, toughen up surgery guy. Yeah.

You need some surgery on your feelings. You're not tough enough. Everyone's hurt this time of year. If any one of us were feeling the way that the bodies of Game 7 participants feel, we would miss a month of work. Dreisaitl had a broken finger, which is OK. All right, come on. Don't make that a thing. But he had broken ribs as well, which, I mean, these guys did have trouble absorbing hits by the end of it.

Do you have any other suggestions for me, Iowa, on what it is? Iowa. Dan just called me Jessica in my ear. Well, so I improved it by calling you Iowa afterward. You're supposed to, as my producer, help me protect me there as opposed to that act of betrayal that you just did. Hey, Red. But you called me Jessica. I know. I did do that. Yes, it's a bad mistake. Do you know her name? No. No.

Do you have any other suggestions other than charity? Because that's a good idea. Charity is a great idea. I don't know if I have any other ones. I'm not as vindictive as you guys. But is it vindictive? Your college roommate would disagree. No, she doesn't know anything. Emily? Yeah, ugh, don't say her name. I thought her name was Charity.

Get out of here. Wow. Who? You forgot his name too? Get out of here. Forgot my name too. Get out of here, Tony. I want to get this done. He was absolutely cocking one back. Yeah. I want to get this done. I'm sorry? Phrase it. Can anyone help me?

With what it is that needs to be done around here, I don't want to simply go to Africa at the end of this week and not have billboards up in Edmonton or know that we're going to get billboards up in Edmonton. Well, should we check the mobile billboard idea? Mobile billboard was probably the best idea. Seems a little, I mean, it's on the company to assume this liability. Yeah.

I would say. And also you have a closer over there that's willing to call. Just change your trip to Canada and then just old fashioned it with a poster board. Yeah, that's a great idea. You go. Yeah, you just go do it. Yeah, we're a sandwich board and you go see how that works out. Yeah. Because Edmonton is still an option.

That's true. The thing that I wanted to put in front of you guys, because I am headed to Africa and because every day around here I see some sort of reference that I make that that people around here have no idea what it is that I'm talking about.

This week, I learned that in order to have the funds, access to funds in Africa, my credit cards, none of the ones I have work. None of them. None of my debit cards. None of my American Express. Want me to hold on to them?

What, you have to have cash? No, you have to have a specific kind of credit card. And this is the thing that I brought up that was laughed at when I suggested it. I mentioned traveler's checks. Oh, okay.

And the people that I was talking to didn't know what I was talking about. Have any of you put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Have you ever seen a traveler's check?

Is it something you... I've been lamenting around here how un-American it is that people do not take my cash in this country. That I will wander around there like, we only take cards, sir. And I'm looking at them like, you've got to be kidding me. You have to be shitting me. In this country, you should take American cash. It should be taken everywhere. There should be no impediment to American cash being processed as a way of having value anywhere.

And Traveler's Checks, I thought, might still be a thing. Can we find out if it's still a thing? It can't be doing well, the Traveler's Check industry. Oh, I think they had their best year last year. Check it out at Traveler'sChecks.com. I was surprised to learn that...

I probably can't go to Africa after going to my bank with traveler's checks. It's probably not something that's going to work. They're going to laugh in my face and think I'm just throwing a bunch of paper at them. You went to a bank in person? No, I have not done that yet. I was talking to people about doing it. I don't know if the bank will give me traveler's checks. I don't know if they're traveler's checks, if that's still a thing, if it's still being done anywhere.

Can you convert to local currency? You should probably check. Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do. You can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside. Maybe it's too hot.

summertime, go outside. I record a lot from my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,

I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.

She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.

Don Levitard. We didn't get to your guys' against the spread. You're right, you're right, you're right. I don't have an against the spread. Oh, well. Because I wasn't prepared for this segment. You need an Ian in your life. You have actively played defense against me today in a way that has rarely been this undercutting. Stugatz. Defense wins championships, baby. That's show business. This is the Don Levitard Show with the Stugatz. ♪♪♪

If you consume this show via audio, uh, you will not see the billboard behind me. That is on YouTube, on the draft Kings network, uh, Roku, an assortment of places, Samsung TV plus max, uh,

So I'm sorry that you can't see it on audio, but that's what the billboard will be if we ever get it up. And we are told that the people in the billboard company power structure, they are not open yet this morning. It's too early, but we will check in with them later and I assume argue and find out a little more about how it is that this can be and if Stugatz can indeed negotiate his way out of this so that we can get our billboard.

It's like they don't want to make money, right? Like, they don't want to take our money. They don't just want to be open whenever we want to call them live. Like, I don't understand how this company operates. Three hours behind us. I mean, but if we're going to call, you'd be open, right? What are they up to?

How many billboards are people honestly putting up in Edmonton, realistically? There's a local plumbing company. I imagine there's some snowplow or something that goes up. They're like, what are they advertising in Edmonton that their billboards are so busy that they can't take this money? It is cheap. The billboards are not very expensive. Cheaper than Cleveland 10 years ago? Not cheaper than Cleveland 10 years ago. Akron was unusually cheap. I need to know how high you are willing to go.

I mean, I need that information before I make a call, you know? Okay. Okay. Yes. I don't want to spend money that you're not willing to spend, that you don't have. Why would you stop now? Why would you stop now? I'm being responsible. I care about you. We're a segment removed from you asking for my credit cards. Well, I mean, you can't use them in Africa, so someone might as well use them. I think he's right. Dan, you don't want credit cards to go unused. I'm telling you. I mean, there's some companies that are literally everywhere you want to be.

I really don't understand how it is that I have now arrived in this space of my money's no good here. Everywhere. It's crazy. My money, my American cash isn't good here. The way my credit cards work in Africa isn't good. And in Canada, they don't want my money either. I'm like legitimately confused how it is that my money has no value.

On the turnpike near a hospital in Kendall, there is a digital billboard of the Florida Gators NIL Collective. And I drive past it occasionally and I get mad. And it's in the state of Florida. It's

It's a state school. We have Florida prepaid down here. It should be fair game. And I get so mad that someone accepted that business. It's not even a mile away from FIU campus. It's

it's in Miami and it bothers me. I can't imagine if I lost an important game to another big school, a title game. And I saw a billboard of them making fun and magnifying that fact. I'd be irate. Have you ever wondered in driving past that hospital, why there is an exterior door on what appears to be the third or fourth floor with no balcony or anything. It's just a door that opens on the side of the building. Yeah. You drive past it on the tour. I've it's,

It has boggled my mind for nearly two decades. No one has wondered that except for you. No, any normal person wonders why is there a door that seems to open on the fourth floor where there's no stairwell, there's no balcony. You just fall to your death.

Imagine you go down the wrong hallway, you open that door, and you just fall four stories. Well, it hasn't happened in 20 years. Otherwise, somebody would have corrected it by now. I know you see death around every corner. I'm curious. Behind every door. Also, though, if a building has one, I guess a hospital is the one where you want to have that happen, right? Maybe that's how it stayed in business, that door for such a long time. People fall, and then they just repair them. In case of emergency, just keep that door unlocked, and we'll have repeat business.

just have an exit here sign and people just start falling out of that door. Billy, so I checked out the billboard scene in Edmonton. The standard stuff is up. There's one for K-97, there's one for an accident attorney, and there's one for a Chevrolet local dealership. Can we disguise this billboard somehow? Like have them think it's for a local something? Ooh, I like that. Just lie? Not lie. I mean, well, it'll be for something, but like,

our messages will be hidden. I'd love to know. And whenever we talk to these people, if it's just going to be Stugatz negotiating with them, I'd really love to know what they think, how the news got to them, that this is something they shouldn't be doing. I would, I'd like the explanation for that. Edmonton. They all probably know. Mike, we were fine at all the steps along this until midnight last night. All of a sudden at midnight, it was declined out of nowhere. When they, I thought,

If we'd gotten the dimensions right, they'd already be up. They would have been up the day that this happened. And I believe that somebody learned something. I'd like to get to the bottom of some of this, but we're going to do that later in the show whenever it is that Edmonton wakes up.

What is going on? Stugatz, I doubt that you listen to Spittin' Chicklets. I think it's America's most popular hockey podcast. I would say so, yeah. Spittin' Chicklets, North America's most popular hockey pod. Paul Bizonette, Biz from TNT, is on there.

Witt, a former Edmonton, former Florida Panther, Ryan Whitney, founder of Pink Whitney, which is a big time spirit. They have a bunch of guys on their team. R.A. It's kind of like a Boston podcast, but Witt's an out and out Edmonton Oiler fan because he played over there. And they've been...

Florida Panther fans have kind of gotten used to no one rooting for them and everyone having a go at them, so it wasn't that toxic. But they were very publicly in Edmonton Oilers' podcast. They were partying, having a great time. For weeks. For weeks. Enjoyed the holy hell out of four, five, and six. Witt is a guy that's actually an Edmonton Oilers fan. To his credit, he's like...

especially by comparison, the most composed out of all of them. They were raging in boxes. They were just having the time of their lives covering this Stanley Cup. And they kept the Oiler momentum going when they would come down here. And R.A., who does a good job on that show and is known for being a party guy, as most of the guys on that show are, he had himself a really good time at Game 7. He tried to go down on the ice. Now, Whitney's put out a post saying he warned him

Guys, you've been celebrating over the last few weeks. We've been Oilers guys. You're out here literally wearing a choker. Like, it's not a great idea to go down there. And R.A. told him, like, no, I know the Kachuks. I'm cool with Thority, Sean Thornton, who was a member of the Panthers organization, who was a Boston Bruin way back in the day, won a cup with them. So he thought he was good. And they put out this video of R.A. getting down on the ice. Thority tells him, in so many words, you can see the video for yourself, F.

F off. No, get the hell out of here. No. Out. Gone. Now, some of it looks a little lighthearted, but there was some serious stuff going there. R.A. just kind of rolls off and finds Matthew Kachuk. Matthew Kachuk tells him to buzz off, and then he finds Keith Kachuk. Keith Kachuk curses at him. R.A. finds himself in the locker room, gets tossed from the locker room, and I got to tell you, this is what I tried to save Greg Cody from.

And successfully, I might add, because if, say, we live in an alternate universe where the Edmonton Oilers win and Greg Cody tries to cover this, these guys know. They know. We know McDavid's dad knew. Like, it is personal. It is motivation that they use. And even though they go way back and they know R.A., the Kachuks were not having it in that moment. You were actively rooting against us. F off. Let's go ahead and play that video for the people.

He's just getting rejected everywhere he goes. While he's wearing a choker. And he's wearing his press pass and... Yeah, that's not... Those people aren't fooling around. Bleep you, I'm done with you. That's Kachuk's dad? Yeah, that's Keith Kachuk.

Those people are not having that. No, no, no. Thorny's a very nice man. Like, yeah, he wasn't, like, going to kick his ass there. But Thorny was dead serious. Like, what the hell are you doing out here? Get out of here. I find Stugatz, and I've found this interesting for 30 years, the hockey ethos is so much different than other.

other sports where these guys publicly don't say anything bad about anybody. McDavid gets criticized for not coming out when he's heartbroken to get the consmith because at the end of the series, no matter how many fights there's been, everybody lines up and shakes hands and

After every series, because we want to be noble sportsmanship and sportsmanship from another time, no matter how many new generations arrive with different sensibilities, we want to be a sport from another time that does not abide any public disrespect. So they wouldn't say any of that stuff publicly. But in his face, they're telling him, bleep off.

Because that sport has a different set of rules when it comes to all that gentlemanly stuff that's super different from the other sports that doesn't reward like the social media arguing that all of the athletes do in other sports in the way they don't do in hockey. They could kill each other on the ice. They could do it to each other. You can't do it to them. That's kind of how it is with them. I'm a fan of that show. It is not traditional media.

They're going to go to games. They're going to have a great time. They're going to drink their Pink Whitney. They're going to get sloshed, and they're not going to be traditional media. Good. This...

Overall, and this is just my Panther fans speaking, because I want to be careful because I do like those guys. It kind of felt like, wow, this is so over and above that the Panther fan finds this embarrassing. Like you guys are, you're in crop tops, rally crop tops, and you're just drunk all over the place. And Panther fans are like, you guys are idiots. What are you doing? And then the goal, at least Witt tried to talk some sense into him.

Guy, what are you trying to do right there? You're the face of everything they're rallying against right now. Who do you think you are? He's like, nah, I'm good with Thorny and Kachuk. Well, he found out. He effed around and he found out. Well, one of the things that I find interesting about that, Stugatz, is do you understand at the time of maximum joy in your entire life,

Imagine me at my wedding turning to someone by the cake and saying, you, I don't want you here. Like you're at maximum joy. What you're feeling is the realization of all of your dreams. Here comes a family friend, somebody who clearly knows you. And it's not just, it's not just not now, please. No, it's right to your face right.

You in the middle of my joy. So you get why they don't want the billboards up now. Don't care. Want to do it to Edmonton. Do not care. It'd be odd that you invited that person. I'm not a family friend. It would be odd. I thought I got your ass. I'm not. He was right there. He almost saw it. He almost saw it. I know they're going to be angry. He almost said it himself. I'm well aware they're going to be angry. I don't care.

care that they're going to be angry that Greg Cody's face in the how does that face because you're not fooling anybody because you're putting up Greg's face and if Ed if you needed anything to remind you in that billboard clip it said paid for by Gonzo and Stu Gatz not Dan oh that's only because I couldn't do it I wasn't allowed to put my name on it because ESPN sticks everything on my name when you guys do

We know you're one to follow the rules. We know that Greg had a hard time with this, and I didn't read his victory lap column because it was behind a paywall. But you guys have no idea how different your experience would have been with this whole thing if the billboards actually went up when you wanted them to at 3-0. And then not only do you have Edmonton all...

Oilers fans mad at you. You have your local sports fans mad at you because the optics are you kick-started an all-time collapse. I can't even imagine what your guys' life would have been if they went up. It would have been so much more fun. Oh my God, so fun. It was the perfect time right after Game 3. Mike McDavid finally had a good game. Mr. Game 4.

No, it would have been real bad for you guys. You're anarchist and you're off in the periphery and you choose to not see it. It would have been real bad for you guys, and I'm happy they didn't go. Real bad how? This is sports. It's not real life. McDavid has that game. You wake up to those billboards the next day. It's hysterical. It's fun. Okay.

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Don Levitard. He seems like a not nice guy, and he's always been a not nice guy. I don't care for him, and I hope he has the day he deserves. Oh. Oh. Stugatz. I hope he has the day he deserves. That's how I get people when they're really mean to me. I'm not like, go F yourself. I'm like, I hope you have the day you deserve. It's a great kind insult. Yes.

It's beautiful. It's leaving it to the cosmos to sort it out. That's a less Southern bless your heart. This is the Dan Levitas show with the Stugats. Mike is not wrong that we would have been profoundly disliked. But we are anyway. So what? Like, so what? You know how there's a saying that Twitter is not real life?

The reaction that I'm getting to, to being totally rational about this stuff. This is not real life where it's like four to one against me. Like, oh, you're crazy, Mike. Okay, fine. I think, I think I did a solid job protecting us, protecting the show, physically protecting Greg. And maybe one day you guys will see that. Hmm.

I don't love to be motivated by fear. I understand both your protection and your fear. It's not that I don't understand what would have been the consequences of that, even as it was. It was unpleasant to experience because these things happened to me in public.

Social media is not real, but those things happen with people confronting me in public for things you guys have done. And this was me maximum on that.

The fact that Greg Cody inserted himself with that ignorance in the middle of everything that was happening in North America, I wanted to plant that flag in the middle of that series and take the consequences of it. And I would have been fine. It's easy to say now. I would have been fine with the consequences right up until an old man got beat up on the ice.

I had to deal with individual consequences of your guys' actions as I was working for Bally going around trying to do man on the street stuff beforehand, before these games. And I have people who I'm interviewing saying, and f*** Dan Levitard and f*** Greg Cody because they're so furious, like not as a bit about what we were doing as a show. And I'm working for a separate entity dealing with those repercussions. It was terrible. Welcome to the party, pal. How about they get a life?

So you were in Vegas. Yeah, no, Billy and Stuart. You were at the party. Oh, the sphere. It's easy. It's this sphere or the sphere because... Sphere. I was living in the sphere. You were in the sphere. Because Billy ran, did run away from the billboards in Buffalo. Yes, he ran away. They also didn't take our money.

I think this would have been the ultimate joke at the expense of sports fans who take things too seriously, which is a joke this show has been making for 20 years. I will say this. To my credit, I went face-to-face with Josh Allen after saying that. And I owned it. I will back you up. I told him it was me. What are we going to do here, bucko? And he said, here's a cookie. Josh.

Brought to you by Subway. That's what Super Bowl week is all about. And a churro. Oh, God. So delicious. Can I say something? This is something. The fans don't already hate us. I like Josh Allen.

Josh Allen wasn't the one you were ever afraid of. You were afraid of some of the people who crashed through burning tables on Sundays. You weren't afraid. You were never afraid. You were never afraid of Josh Allen's play, never mind his fists. Oh, no, I mean, come on. He still needs to get it done. I mean, we could be friends now, but he still needs to prove something to me. You know what I mean? And you can say that about your friends.

It is easy for Stugatz and Billy to be brave here because their stuff ends up as my consequences all the time. I went out into the streets after game seven, okay? And can I tell you the experience that I had? No one saying, F you, Billy. A stranger came up to me as soon as I got down.

looked at me and said, Billy. And I was like, uh-oh. We did it and gave me a big hug. I said, you know what? We did. And I said, come here. I gave him a hug. A stranger in the streets. Then another one did the same thing. I was hugging people left and right. We did it, Dan. Yes, you did it, Billy. I mean, I'm not, me minimum. We did it. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

It is one of the strangest things. Lucy, did you celebrate, or as I like to call you, Jessica, did you celebrate anywhere with, like, how were you rooting? Because I believe that Billy was hoping that the Panthers would lose Game 7. I believe Billy wanted to go to bed.

You would know better than most. I would say it felt like that. Well, the day started as a win-win, I'll be honest with you. Regardless of the outcome, I feel like I won that day. I believe you wanted to be able to laugh at the show. Lucy, did you want to be able to laugh at the show or did you want the show to be happy? I believe Jessica would have been thrilled with the show losing. Can I no comment this one? Wow.

I do want to say though, sometimes people will come up to me angry about things you guys have said and I always just say, I really don't know them that well. It works every single time. They're like, ah, okay.

You're no commenting me on how it is that you felt to watch the Panthers win the Stanley Cup and how it is that that related to your feelings about and around the show. I'm getting a no comment from someone that we are paying for commentary. Sometimes saying nothing says it all. I do believe you've made quite the statement by not answering that question. Yeah, I'm putting her down in the rooting against column. No comment.

Alright, let's see if I can find something. She was right there with the spitting chiclets, boys. I'll find something that she wants to comment on. How about EA Sports and how it is that they rank toughest places to play? Surely Lucy has some sort of objection to something happening there. So as we get

closer to the college football video game coming out. They've been giving us little like tidbits, little just here are some team rankings, here are what stadiums are going to look like. And yesterday they dropped the top 10 hardest places to play. Now I've seen a lot of college football games in my life. Thanks to you, I've gotten to go to a lot of places. They listed number one is Kyle Field, Texas A&M, which like great atmosphere, they lose at home all the time, Don.

They lost at home to App State. I don't know if you can say it's one of the toughest places to play. They do lose at home quite a bit. LSU was like third?

Yeah, LSU was super low, should have been number one. Texas was on the list. It didn't feel super accurate, but they gave us a little subject to change. A little subject to change. I thought LSU at night was widely regarded because of the 24 hours of drinking that happened beforehand. I thought LSU at night was widely regarded. The one meaningful Miami...

season that we had here since our show has been on the air. We had game day folks in and out of our studios. And I would ask them, you know, where did the Notre Dame game stack? But they always said the loudest place they'd ever been to in their entire life was at Death Valley LSU. That's the loudest place. Night game there. That's insane.

It's pure insanity. Just name alone Death Valley. It should be the most difficult place to play in college football, right? But there's two Death Valleys. There are two of them. Those Tigers, too. But you think LSU before Clemson. At least I do. Do you? I mean, Clemson's got a pretty intense atmosphere. It's just smaller. You know what they say, Dan, about a sport that has two Death Valleys? You don't have one. It's true. Nobody says that. Well, I said it.

Okay, but that's not what they say. It's what you say. That's a fair point. You're the only one saying it. Did they rank Doak ahead of the Swamp? They did. They did, yes. Doak is number nine. The Swamp is ten. No bounce house? No bounce house.

One is Kyle Field. Two is Bryant Denny, LSU, Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State, Wisconsin, and then Oklahoma. What? I know. LSU should be number one. LSU should be number one by a mile. And the Swamp should be ahead of Doak. I didn't think that when you mentioned Texas A&M, I did not think that we wouldn't be talking about the reason we should be talking today about Texas A&M. Where's Hard Rock Stadium? I don't know.

Others receiving votes, really. Right there by Ricardo Silva. The cage. I think Stugatz is going to like this Texas A&M story. Do you know anything about it, Stugatz? No.

I love this story. Well, during Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final, there was another championship being played out. The College World Series. That Tennessee-Florida State game, I can't believe Tennessee beat Florida State the way they beat Florida State and is now national champion in college baseball. And since Miami played at Kyle Field...

I've been stuck in a college station group chat of everybody that experienced that, and now I just keep tabs on Texas A&M. They're like, you know from last year in college football, I was pretty locked into this team. And so I follow all that's going on in athletics. This cult. It is cult-y. It is. I told Jess, because

Notre Dame's playing Texas A&M this year at Kyle Field. Did you just point at Lucy and call her Jess? No, I pointed at Lucy because she brought up the Kyle Field like most difficult place to play. And I don't know if Lucy, have you had the privilege of going to Kyle Field? I have not. We're really hoping to go this year when they open up against Notre Dame. So even though we're saying mean things about the

the baseball coach, that's because we're so pro-Tex A&M. So just remember that when we're submitting credential applications. I loved my time in College Station. I loved my time in College Station. I thought the fans there were pretty nice until the game started and then, you know, it's middle fingers everywhere. But it's a great experience.

And there is a huge difference between 80,000 people in a stadium and over 100,000 people in a stadium. It's freaking wild. Like 10,000? Yeah. So in my group chat, I was following this run to the College World Series, and they had a baseball coach who lost in the College World Series and gave a press conference because there was rumors. One of the best jobs in college baseball is baseball.

head coach of the Texas Longhorns and that job was available and his name was circulated in some rumors so here's this coach being asked and I forget what's his name Jim yeah second most hated Jim uh I guess in Texas A&M he may be number one and you I know Dan's got to perk up a little bit this tone is so bad he gets asked about this about the the Texas rumors and this is his response

Coach, with respect to the difficult outcome tonight, but with the rumors circulating today about a specific job opening, what do you have to say about your future in Aggieland? Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty selfish of you to ask me that question, to be honest with you. But I left my family to be the coach at Texas A&M. I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again, and that hasn't changed in my mind.

That's unfair to talk about something like that. That'd be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to sign in the draft. But I understand you got to ask the question. But I gave up a big part of my life to come take this job. And I've poured every ounce of my soul in this job. And I've given this job every single ounce I can possibly give it. Write that. Coach, thank you very much. Write that. Selfish to ask him that question. But Stugatz doesn't know. Can I tell him?

He accepted the Texas job the next day. I'm so proud of him. He had already accepted it. His third job since 2021. Weasel. Hook him.

Let's just listen to this denial, because this is some fairly amazing, condescending, angry denial lying when you know you've already accepted the job. And this is just something you're doing publicly because you're a little heartbroken about your season being over and you feel like you have to do it. But this man is a giant stugatz. Yes.

Coach, with respect to the difficult outcome tonight, but with the rumors circulating today about a specific job opening, what do you have to say about your future in Aggieland? Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty selfish of you to ask me that question, to be honest with you. It changes everything. I left my family to be the coach at Texas A&M. I took the job at Texas A&M to never take another job again, and that hasn't changed in my mind. Yeah.

That's unfair to talk about something like that. That'd be like you asking Montgomery if he's going to sign in the draft. But I understand you got to ask the question, but I gave up a big part of my life to come take this job, and I've poured every ounce of my soul in this job, and I've given this job every single ounce I can possibly give it. It's right that. Coach, thank you very much. Did he actually leave his family, Mike? Yeah, his family's in Austin. Were they not allowed to come?

Summer's the best time to run the way you want. Dial it up with new challenges and programs and bring your workouts with you to make the most of outside sunny days. Stugatz, guess what? What? You know what you can do with Peloton? What? Get the app, go outside, ride a bike. Well, I thought you ride Peloton inside. Well, you do, you can ride Peloton inside if it's a rainy day or if it's cloudy or you just don't want to get outside, maybe it's too hot.

summertime, go outside. I record a lot for my office with you and you've noticed it's sitting there yet. It hasn't been used. Well, now's the time. Summer's the best time to start that push. Right. Can we do it together? Not on the same bike, but we could join a class together. I used to do that. We used to have Guillermo Tan. I'd invite people. We'd all take a class together. Okay. So I think you're starting to get concerned about my health and my age, Billy. I,

I sense that with you. We're beyond starting. Okay. Whatever road lies ahead, your training starts here with Peloton Tread and Tread Plus. It's not just a bike, a treadmill too. I'm going to go outside. I'm going to get in shape. I'm going to do it with Billy Gill. I want to be in your class. I want you to be my instructor. You know what? I won't be your instructor. You don't want to spend more time with me. No, I can schedule a class and we can ride together. I won't be the instructor of the class. We can have Camila could be our instructor. I like the Grateful Dead class. My daughter, she uses the Peloton. Mm-hmm.

She was on it once and an instructor who was playing Grateful Dead tunes. Let's do that. Okay. Why don't we go for a run outside? Guided run. Peloton. Me and you. That's something we can do together. Okay. Turn on the app. Me and you go outside. Enjoy the summer. Call yourself a runner with Peloton at onepeloton.com slash running. All right.

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