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Making a Monster

2025/6/16
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Rodney Fox: 1963年我遭遇了一次严重的鲨鱼袭击,感觉就像被火车撞了一样。我与鲨鱼搏斗,但最终还是被它咬伤,险些丧命。尽管如此,我仍然热爱海洋,渴望回到水下世界。但是,鲨鱼袭击的阴影一直挥之不去,我对鲨鱼充满了恐惧。 Lulu Miller: 罗德尼·福克斯的经历让我既感到恐惧,又感到好奇。作为一名热爱海洋的人,我希望这种事情永远不要发生在我身上。但罗德尼的故事也让我思考,我们对鲨鱼的恐惧究竟来自何处。 Latif Nasser: 我平时经常在海里活动,但只有在想到鲨鱼袭击时才会想到鲨鱼。鲨鱼给我的感觉既可怕又神秘,我想了解更多关于鲨鱼的知识。 Rachael Cusick: 罗德尼·福克斯的故事与我们对鲨鱼的集体恐惧密切相关。《大白鲨》这部电影加剧了人们对鲨鱼的恐惧,将鲨鱼描绘成一种嗜血的怪物。但事实上,鲨鱼袭击致死的人数非常少,我们对鲨鱼的恐惧更多是源于想象。 Chris Lowe: 人类并非天生就害怕鲨鱼,这种恐惧是后天形成的。因为我们对鲨鱼知之甚少,所以我们会在脑海中创造出鲨鱼的形象,而这种形象往往是被夸大和扭曲的。 Jeffrey Cohen: 怪物故事的精髓在于怪物总是出现在视野的边缘,这会加剧人们的恐惧感。《大白鲨》的成功之处在于它隐藏了人们应该害怕的东西,让人们在想象中构建出鲨鱼的形象。

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Episode one of Swimming with Shadows: A Radiolab Week of Sharks.Rodney Fox went into the ocean one summer day in 1963. He came out barely alive, his body torn apart by a great white shark. At the time, it was one of the worst shark attacks ever survived.

After he recovered, he was pulled back into the shadowy world he feared most. Again and again and again. That shark attack left behind a question that still lingers, for Rodney, and for all of us: When you can’t see the thing that scares you, what kind of monster does your mind create? And how do you fight past it?

Special thanks to Surekha Davies, Asa Mittman, Scott Poole, and Maria Tatar.

**EPISODE CREDITS:**Reported by - Rachael Cusickwith help from - Pat WaltersProduced by - Rachael Cusick and Pat WaltersSound design contributed by - Jeremy Bloomwith mixing help from - Jeremy BloomFact-checking by - Diane Kellyand Edited by  - Pat Walters

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