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Lovett or Leave It: For Good

2024/12/21
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T.S. Madison 深入分析了迪士尼反派Ursula的形象,认为Ursula的魅力在于其对自身性取向的隐晦暗示以及其被误解的本质。她希望迪士尼能够创作出关于Ursula背景故事的作品,如同Maleficent一样,揭示其背后的故事。她还批评了迪士尼童话故事中王子公主的结局过于理想化,缺乏现实意义,并表达了对社会现实的不满,认为现实社会中充满了不公平和压迫。 主持人引导了话题,并与T.S. Madison 就Ursula的形象以及对社会现实的看法进行了讨论。

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Why did T.S. Madison identify with Ursula from 'The Little Mermaid'?

T.S. Madison felt a connection to Ursula because she believed Ursula knew she was gay before she did, and she admired Ursula's misunderstood nature as a villain.

What did Busy Phillips say about body positivity and Ozempic?

Busy Phillips expressed frustration with the focus on body positivity and neutrality, stating she's over it and would rather have access to drugs like Ozempic without shame, especially given how men in Hollywood have benefited from similar treatments.

What was Rob Reiner's view on polyamory?

Rob Reiner doesn't understand polyamory, comparing it to cheating and stating that someone always gets hurt or jealous in such arrangements.

What did Kathleen Turner share about her experience playing Chandler's dad on 'Friends'?

Kathleen Turner revealed she had to visit drag clubs to understand the character, and the producers initially asked her to be 'nicer' in her portrayal, which she adjusted to fit the role.

What was Thomas Lennon's reaction to the idea of Herbie the car smiling in 'Herbie Fully Loaded'?

Thomas Lennon was adamant that Herbie, as a non-sentient car, should not smile, calling the idea 'insane' and arguing that it would make the car appear too human-like.

What did Rachel Bloom recall about the day of 9/11?

Rachel Bloom remembered that 9/11 was the day Mariah Carey's album 'Glitter' was released. Her mother, concerned about the events, took her home early from school, and they managed to buy the album before the store closed.

What did Simon Rex say about ghosts and their abilities?

Simon Rex doesn't believe in ghosts but speculated that they might scare people but couldn't physically harm them, and he also questioned why only human ghosts are considered in media.

What did Jane Fonda say about her arrests for activism?

Jane Fonda acknowledged that her arrests draw attention to her causes but also recognized that she is treated differently due to her privilege as a white, famous person.

What was the outcome of the 'Into the Fondaverse' segment with Jane Fonda and Louis Virtel?

Jane Fonda outperformed Louis Virtel in answering questions about her own career and life, demonstrating her extensive knowledge and memory about her past.

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T.S. Madison joins the show to discuss trans representation in media and rates recent events in LGBTQIA+ history, from Martha Alito's anti-pride flag to Pope Francis's apology for using a homophobic slur.
  • T.S. Madison's preference for Ursula as a Disney villain and her discussion of trans representation.
  • Rating recent moments in queer history on a scale of 1-8 (8 being the gayest).
  • Discussion of Martha Alito's anti-pride flag and Pope Francis's homophobic slur.

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Before you snuggle up in front of a roaring fire with your loved ones and watch Conclave as is the new tradition, enjoy this end-of-year gift from the Lovett or Leave It team. That’s right, Kendra, Halle, Lazarus, Chris, Kennedy, and Lovett all hand-wrapped this best-of episode, full of Hollywood tales, existential ennui, gay musings, and the right amount of oversharing, just for you. So go ahead, pour yourself a mug of hot cocoa, Google “Stanley Tucci IMDB,” and take a listen to Jane Fonda, Kathleen Turner, Matt Rogers, Rachel Bloom, Busy Philipps, Ts Madison, Thomas Lennon, and Rob Reiner. And if you see the Ghost of Christmas Past… tell him Simon Rex says hello.

 

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