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Jon Kabat-Zinn on Why You Can’t Heal What You Won’t Feel | EP 619

2025/6/3
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Jon Kabat-Zinn: 正念并非一种需要习得的技巧，而是我们与生俱来的觉知能力。它超越了思考，是一种非语言的顿悟，能帮助我们认识到自身已足够完好，无需追求外在的成就。在日常生活中，正念是一种激进的行为，它促使我们全然地接纳当下，无论是喜悦还是痛苦，并从中发现生命的美丽与珍贵。正念不是逃避生活，而是全然地活在当下，与现实建立联系。它能帮助我们化解压力、焦虑和慢性疼痛，并培养出一种灵活的平静心态，让我们不再被“我”的故事所束缚。通过正念练习，我们可以发现自身与宇宙万物的 interconnectedness，并从中获得深刻的意义感和归属感。 在面对气候变化、战争等全球性危机时，正念能帮助我们保持平静，并以慈悲和智慧应对挑战。正念的实践并非局限于个人层面，它也关乎我们如何与他人、与世界建立联系，以及如何构建一个更健康、更和谐的社会。 John R. Miles: 本次访谈探讨了正念的本质，以及它如何帮助人们在当今世界中找到意义和归属感。正念不仅是一种减压或放松的技巧，更是一种激进的理智、爱与临在的行为。通过与Jon Kabat-Zinn的对话，我们深入探讨了正念的实践方法，以及它如何帮助人们应对压力、焦虑、慢性疼痛等挑战。同时，我们也探讨了正念在应对全球性危机，例如气候变化和战争中的作用，以及它如何帮助人们建立更深层次的连接，并找到人生的意义。

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Jon Kabat-Zinn recounts his transformative experience at MIT, encountering Zen Buddhism and discovering the unifying power of awareness. He explains how mindfulness, or pure awareness, is an innate human capacity often overshadowed by our focus on thinking. The discussion highlights the importance of recognizing this inherent awareness and cultivating it through practices like meditation.
  • Encounter with Zen master Philip Kaplow at MIT
  • Mindfulness as pure awareness, not something to be acquired
  • Awareness as an innate human superpower often neglected in education
  • Meditation as inhabiting inherent awareness, not achieving a special state

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In this powerful episode of Passion Struck, I'm joined by world-renowned mindfulness pioneer Jon Kabat-Zinn, founder of Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction (MBSR) and author of Full Catastrophe Living and Wherever You Go, There You Are).

We dive deep into the essence of mindfulness—not as a buzzword, but as a radical invitation to fully feel our lives. Jon unpacks why true healing requires presence, why you can’t bypass your emotions, and how mindfulness isn’t about relaxing—it’s about awakening.

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We also explore:

  • The misunderstood purpose of meditation
  • How to work with pain, fear, and overwhelm
  • The dangers of spiritual bypassing
  • Why being present is the most courageous act of our time
  • The biological roots of connection, compassion, and consciousness

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