Ep. 1459 - No, I’m Not Doing Another DEI Film, But CBS May Need Me To Step In
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the DEI grift is collapsing across the country, but some organizations are clinging desperately to it. We'll talk about that. Also, Kamala Harris sits down for her first real interview where she's actually challenged a little bit. It doesn't go well for her. And the White House press secretary gets into a heated exchange with a Fox News reporter. But there's something else about the video that deeply confuses me. And a new documentary about euthanasia features an incredibly disturbing interview with one of the doctors who administers these quote unquote treatments.

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Well, I didn't expect to have to do this so soon after the release of my film, Am I Racist? But at this point, I really have no choice. Already, I find myself having to dispel rumors on social media that a sequel to the film is in production, in which I don an even more convincing disguise and infiltrate the most absurd DEI struggle sessions that I can find deep inside the bowels of corporate America. Now, you might think that rumors like this would be hard to take seriously, if only because

you know i probably wouldn't be able to find any more dei struggle sessions to infiltrate after all it's been more than four years since the dei craze began it's clear now that the industry is crumbling universities from florida to texas to kentucky have closed their dei departments

Various state governments are doing the same thing. Meanwhile, people like Robbie Starbuck have exposed several major companies for promoting the DEI scam. Tractor Supply, John Deere, Harley Davidson. And every single time, once they're exposed, these companies reverse course. They're all aware of how shameful and counterproductive and absurd DEI programs are, so they're canceling them left and right. But the truth is that despite all that's happened, there are still

some failing institutions in this country that are clinging to the DEI industry. In times of internal crisis, there are some major corporations and government agencies that are willing to pay DEI consultants in a desperate attempt to right the ship. And some of these attempts are so comical on their face that they would admittedly make great fodder for a sequel to Am I Racist? And I'll go through a couple of examples in a second, but

First, again, I just want to reassure anyone who's about to be forced to attend a DEI workshop that no, I will not be in attendance with a man bun or otherwise. I've done my time. You know, I've already been certified. I don't need to go back into that environment. I graduated. And that might be a missed opportunity, admittedly, since these DEI sessions are now so absurd that

that they really should be featured in a comedy movie of some kind. What's happening at CBS News right now is maybe the best example. They've just brought in a DEI expert because the whole company is falling apart. They're self-immolating. Here's the background. Yesterday, Puck News reported that, quote,

CBS News has been roiling after a CBS Mornings interview in which a CBS anchor pressed Ta-Nehisi Coates over his pro-Palestinian framing of the Israel-Palestine conflict. This morning, on October 7th, CBS News leaders Wendy McMahon and Adrian Rourke

told staff that the interview did not meet editorial standards for impartiality, though they declined to elaborate on how or why. When they tried to move on, CBS News chief legal correspondent Jan Crawford criticized the leaders for their decision. So, to summarize, CBS News is melting down internally over a seven-minute interview on CBS Mornings in which an anchor supposedly failed to be impartial during an interview with a guest named Ta-Nehisi Coates. Here's part of that interview, and as far as I can tell,

This is as heated as it got. Watch. - Tanhashi, I wanna dive into the Israel-Palestine section of the book. It's the largest section of the book. And I have to say, when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away, the content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist. And so then I found myself wondering,

Why does Ta-Nehisi Coates, who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very talented, smart guy, leave out so much? Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it? Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it? Why not detail anything of the first and the second Intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits?

And is it because you just don't believe that Israel in any condition has a right to exist? Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, there is no shortage of that perspective in American media. That's the first thing I would say. I am most concerned always with those who don't have a voice, with those who don't have the ability to talk.

So that's it. It's a question that is not very flattering, at least by the standards of a CBS Mornings interview. It's a completely reasonable question. The anchor wants to know why the guy's book is so one-sided. He's challenging him on the one-sided nature of his book. And instead of answering the question, the author starts talking about how the media is aligned against him. So it's a pretty obvious dodge. But

There's nothing remarkable about any of this. And the rest of the conversation goes on in the same way. It remains cordial on both sides for the entire segment where this guy is pushed, challenged a little bit. That's how an interview is supposed to work. Put another way, this was not the kind of interview that should have caused any kind of meltdown inside a news organization that employs alleged adults. It really shouldn't have provoked any kind of reaction whatsoever. Reasonable people, whatever they think of this particular issue, should be able to tolerate frank, direct questions about their beliefs.

But inside CBS News, that's not happening. The network is tearing itself apart because a lot of their employees are upset that the anchor did not just heap praise on this guy's book and tell him how great it was. The anchor was not sufficiently deferential to the plight of people in Gaza or whatever. So the leaders of CBS News are now apologizing, saying the interview didn't meet their, quote, editorial standards.

First of all, the idea that CBS News has any editorial standards would be news to anyone who watched, you know, the vice presidential debate between J.D. Vance and Tim Walz, for example. I mean, at one point, the CBS moderators invented a quote out of thin air and attributed it to Vance. At another point, they tried to do a drive-by fact check that happened to be false. And when Vance tried to correct the record, they cut his microphone. But despite all this, CBS News is still pretending that they're a serious news organization with standards.

And those standards apparently mean that anchors don't get to ask questions about books, at least when those questions upset the left-wing activists inside the organization who, for some reason, are posing as journalists. So CBS's management team is panicking. They have no idea what to do. And in their panic, they're falling back on a familiar strategy.

Instead of displaying any form of leadership whatsoever, they're outsourcing the job. And they're not just outsourcing it to anyone. They're bringing in the big guns. They're bringing in a DEI expert to help clear all this up. Here's the follow-up report, again from Puck News. I promise this is not a guerrilla marketing campaign for my movie. This is real.

Quote, update, CBS News has invited self-described mental health expert, DEI strategist, and trauma trainer, Dr. Donald Grant, to moderate conversation on this issue in an all-staff meeting tomorrow. Again, to be clear, I am not Dr. Donald Grant. That is not my alter ego. You'd be forgiven for thinking otherwise, as many people apparently do, given the circumstances. I mean, if you go on LinkedIn, you'll find that Dr. Grant is the author of an article about Kamala Harris that's entitled, quote,

She is a DEI hire. So what? And that does sound like something that I'd write, in fairness. But in fact, Dr. Donald Grant is a very real DEI consultant that CBS News has called in, all because one of their anchors asked a mildly probing question to a guest on a talk show. But Dr. Donald Grant is not me. He doesn't appear to be anything like me, in fact. I mean, for one thing, I'm DEI certified, which Dr. Donald Grant does not appear to be.

And, you know, that's an important credential, as I outline in the film. Also, Dr. Donald Grant does not have a glorious man bun. And additionally, unlike Dr. Donald Grant, I don't post unhinged cartoons on Instagram that mock black Republicans simply because they're black. That's another notable difference. This is one of those cartoons that Dr. Grant uploaded to give you some idea what I'm talking about. And you can see it there. This is the...

This is the DEI consultant that they've caught in to, you know, to clear things up. This is the kind of thing that CBS News apparently likes to see in their DEI experts. Now, if you ask me, it seems a bit like a liability. But the biggest distinction between myself and Dr. Donald Grant and the reason that CBS should have hired me instead of him is that, you know, I don't just make things up. If you see my film, you know that my DEI workshop was airtight.

Everything I said was verifiably true and sane and reasonable. My workshops really get down to the nitty gritty, even to the point of elder abuse and self-flagellation. So Dr. Donald Grant isn't as serious about doing the work as I am. His DEI sessions just don't meet the same standard. And I can make that assumption because I just watched Grant's appearance, recent appearance, on a podcast entitled Born to be Dope.

And I'll show you a part of it. And as you watch this, try not to be distracted by the bizarre life-size photo of the host that's displayed on the screen right behind him. He has a picture of himself staring over his own shoulder for the entire interview. We'll come back to that later, though. But for now, here it is. Watch.

And so when you look at the current statistics on black maternal mortality and black infant mortality, which is also black babies die at 2.4 times the rate of white babies up to one before their first birthdays.

And research shows us that black babies are more likely to live if they're cared for by black doctors. That to me is the piece that demonstrates that this is all about systemic racism. - Right, you're back to the system, you're right, come back right to the system. - Literally right back to the systems part. And so when you talk about white superiority ideology, white supremacy, right now one of the biggest pieces of evidence is in fact the black maternal mortality rate.

So one of the biggest pieces of evidence that white supremacy is real, according to Dr. Grant, is the black mortality rate. Specifically, he says that, quote, research shows that black babies are more likely to live if they're cared for by black doctors. And this is a claim that is very popular among DEI activists. In fact, one of our DEI Supreme Court justices, Ketanji Brown Jackson, made this same argument in a recent opinion.

And you can see why the implication, what they're trying to imply is that white doctors don't care as much about black babies. So they just let them die because they're black or they don't try as hard or communicate as well with the baby's patients, parents or whatever. Now, as an aside, this is maybe the only time you'll get left wing activists to pretend to care about babies being left to die. You know, of course, when Tim Walls or Ralph Northam say the doctors can kill babies who survive abortions, they have no problem with that.

And many of those babies are gonna be black, by the way. But if they can blame white supremacy, then suddenly they care. Except this actually is not happening. Well, babies are being left to die in the context of abortion. But what he's talking about here, that's not happening at all, like in any way, shape or form. A lawyer named Ted Frank took a close look at the data and he found two things.

First of all, this claim appears to originate from a study by Northwestern University doctors showing that when there's a black doctor and a black infant, the survival rate for the infant is 99.96%. And when it's a white doctor and a black infant, the survival rate is marginally lower at 99.91%. Okay, so that's a difference of what? 0.05%. Not a big difference we're talking about.

Okay, it's like well within the margin of error when you're doing a study of this kind. And more importantly, more importantly, there's a very clear explanation for the difference as tiny as the difference is, which is that white doctors tend to be more highly specialized than black doctors on average. So they see the worst cases, babies in the NICU who are barely clinging to life. So they're not seeing the same babies with the same conditions.

On average, they're seeing babies who are in worse shape who already have a higher likelihood of dying. That's the logical explanation for the difference in survival rates, but it never even occurs to these liars because all they're capable of doing is lying. They're too busy promoting themselves and their victimhood to actually think about the issues that they're talking about. That's especially true of the host of this Born to be Dope podcast, who, as I mentioned, does his show in front of a gigantic picture of himself.

That actually came up at one point during the conversation. And it doesn't really matter, but here's how he explains why he has a massive picture of himself right behind him at all times. Watch.

My background is from church and where I feel like we're always told be humble. You can't, you know, speak out about yourself and be meek. I'm like, no, we were born to be dope. And as we got, you know, it's all about, like I said, a celebration of unapologetically great at you. And it came from me, my personal experience, because as an author and I tell this story often.

First book came out in 2005, and my biggest challenge I had when I published my book, and you understand this as an author too, was do I put my black face on the cover of my book? That part. That was the biggest challenge. Yeah, that's why his books don't sell, because he's black. So growing up, this podcast host went to church where he learned to be meek and humble, and then he grew out of all that nonsense, and now he understands the true purpose of life

which is that he was born to be dope. Now, you know, maybe I'm a little rusty on my exegesis, but yeah, I mean, I do. I think if I remember correctly, that born to be dope is it's somewhere in first Corinthians. So that checks out.

Who needs a hope, love, or faith when you have your own dopeness to fall back on? Who needs humility when you can elevate and worship yourself? That's the foundation of DEI after all. And remarkably, not every company has abandoned it yet. There are still dumpster fires like CBS News that have a place for this nonsense long after every reasonable person has moved on. Another one of these dumpster fires, as we all know, is the federal government.

They also have a use for DEI. So take FEMA, for example. As you may have heard, they're under fire lately for completely failing to do their one job, which is to respond quickly and effectively to disasters. A fact which is even more concerning, given that there's another massive hurricane bearing down on the United States as we speak. But what we know about FEMA is, in fact, if anything, they've been actively impeding rescue efforts.

They've also somehow managed to run out of money, even as they're giving more than a billion dollars to illegal migrants. How did that happen exactly? Well, in recent days, a lot of people have noticed that FEMA's top strategic priority, according to its website, is equity. And here's what that looks like in practice. This is footage from an internal FEMA disaster preparedness meeting called Helping LGBTQIA Plus Survivors Before Disasters. This was held last year.

Panelists include Maggie Jerry of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration and somebody named Tyler Atkins, who's an emergency management specialist at FEMA, who also uses he, they pronouns, by the way. And just listen to this.

It sparked a few things in my mind, thinking about preparedness and how you said, you know, LGBTQIA people and people who have been disadvantaged already are struggling. They already have their own things to deal with. So you add a disaster on top of that, it's just compounding on itself.

And I think that is maybe the why of why we're having these discussions because it isn't being talked about. It isn't being socialized. We're not paying attention to this community. Thank you so much. Maggie.

Thank you. Yeah, there are a couple of things that are intersecting in my mind here. One of them is the culture of emergency management as an organization, as an industry in the United States specifically, not abroad. This has, and my cat sometimes does this, she gets really loud suddenly, so you'll have to just allow for the little meowing in the background.

The shift that we're seeing right now is a shift in emergency management from utilitarian principles where everything is designed for the greatest good, for the greatest amount of people to disaster equity. But we have to do more, right? Let's go over that quote again. The shift we're seeing right now is a shift in emergency services from utilitarian principles where everything is designed for the greatest good, for the greatest amount of people to disaster equity.

But we have to do more. I don't know how much more clear they can make it. They're directly saying that they are not trying to help the greatest number of people. It's right there. You heard it. That's a quote that needs to be repeated every day until this entire organization is dismantled. Openly admitting they don't want to help as many people as they can. They're saying that some people, I guess, deserve to suffer during disasters, specifically American citizens and especially those who are straight white males, we can assume.

Illegal aliens, meanwhile, get to loot the Treasury. They get more than a billion dollars while FEMA runs out of money for American citizens. If you're LGBT, then you also are a top priority. So I guess maybe we'll find out with this next hurricane. But when the helicopters finally do show up a week later to rescue people from their rooftops, they're going to want to know.

They're gonna shout down like, hey, okay, everybody line up. So line up if gay, no, trans get to the front of the line, we'll rescue you first. Gay, bisexual, you'll be, and straight white males, you can just jump off. Just jump off the roof into the water. We're not gonna help you. This is the anti-American, anti-human ideology that defines DEI.

And it's always been the case. Ever since DEI became a multibillion-dollar industry, what's changed is that more and more people now realize this. The only organizations that are still clinging to DEI, at least publicly, are some of the most dysfunctional organizations on the planet. And I probably don't need to make another movie mocking their DEI programs because at this point, you know, they're doing a great job of that on their own. So, no, I'm not secretly leading the DEI session at CBS News today, as much as I kind of wish that I was.

I won't be infiltrating FEMA anytime soon, at least as far as they know. And that's the good news for the people running the DEI scams of these organizations. The bad news, the news that spells the end for their entire industry is that with or without my involvement, the rest of the country is now united in laughing at these people. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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maybe ever. I don't know. And I'm sure it was an accident. She didn't think that she was heading in for a real interview, but she got one. And we'll play a few clips for you for some reason. We'll start with the worst one. Here's Kamala actually being held to account for her failures at the border. And this is kind of a long clip, but I think we need the whole context. And you'll see the most amazing thing about this is that she is

actually challenged a little bit. Now the bar is really low for the media, of course, as we know. But so I don't wanna, we don't wanna make the mistake of giving too much credit to a journalist who just does their job. But it is a rare sight indeed. So let's watch this.

You recently visited the southern border and embraced President Biden's recent crackdown on asylum seekers. And that crackdown produced an almost immediate and dramatic decrease in the number of border crossings. If that's the right answer now, why didn't your administration take those steps in 2021? The first bill we proposed to Congress was to fix our broken immigration system.

knowing that if you want to actually fix it, we need Congress to act. It was not taken up. Fast forward to a moment when a bipartisan group of members of the United States Senate, including one of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, got together, came up with a border security bill. Well, guess what happened? Donald Trump got word that this bill was afoot and could be passed.

And he wants to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. So he told his buddies in Congress, kill the bill. Don't let it move forward. But I've been covering the border for years. And so I know this is not a problem that started with your administration. Correct. Correct. But there was an historic flood.

of undocumented immigrants coming across the border the first three years of your administration. As a matter of fact, arrivals quadrupled from the last year of President Trump. Was it a mistake to loosen the immigration policies as much as you did? It's a long-standing problem. And solutions are at hand. And from day one, literally,

We have been offering solutions. What I was asking was, was it a mistake to kind of allow that flood to happen in the first place? I think the policies that we have been proposing are about fixing a problem, not promoting a problem. But the numbers did quadruple under your watch. And the numbers today, because of what we have done—

We have cut the flow of illegal immigration by half. Should you have done that? Should you have done that? We have cut the flow of fentanyl by half. But we need Congress to be able to act to actually fix the problem. All right, pretty brutal. And I'm shocked this guy is pushing back on her. He must be a right-wing extremist. He must be a secret Trump supporter. That's the only explanation. But...

But Kamala is in a real bind here. Even if she was rhetorically gifted, even if she was good at deftly navigating these kinds of landmines, it would still be a nearly impossible task because the fact is that border crossings quadruple, as he points out a number of times. And those are the stats. Those are the figures.

Nothing you can do about it. Well, you could have done something about it before, but now that's what happened. And there is no good answer. But in Kamala's case, she is not skilled at navigating this kind of stuff. She isn't really skilled at anything. She isn't a good BS-er or even a passable one. So you get this meltdown and she looks awful, incompetent and dishonest, which are, it's the worst combination if you're a political candidate.

If you're going to be dishonest, at least be competent. And if you're going to be incompetent, at least be honest. And she's the worst of both worlds. But that's not the only embarrassing clip. There was also this exchange, which in some ways I find to be even more humiliating and more difficult to watch. But there's this exchange about her alleged firearm that she allegedly owns. Watch. A hard left turn here, but you recently surprised people.

when you said that you are a gun owner and then if someone came into your house... That was not the first time I've talked about it. That's not the first time I've talked about it. So what kind of gun do you own and when and why did you get it? I have a Glock and I've had it for quite some time. And I mean, look, Bill, my background is in law enforcement. And so there you go. Have you ever fired it? Yes, of course I have.

At a shooting range? Yes, of course I have. Of course. Yeah, I'm getting some serious, you know, my girlfriend goes to another school vibes from this. She fully comes off like a child lying to her friends about something. She reminds me of myself when I was like six or seven years old and

I lied to my friend because he was bragging about his baseball card collection. That was a thing back when I was a kid. I don't know, do kids even do baseball cards anymore? Probably not. Anyway, he was bragging about it and I said that I had an original Babe Ruth card because I was just trying to one-up him because he was being such a jerk about it. And he's like, really, you have an original Babe Ruth card? Where'd you get that? Well, I got it. I found it.

Where'd you find it? From under my couch. So it fell apart pretty quickly. And that's what often happens in these. That's why I learned a lesson early. You don't, one lie leads to another. Kamala Harris, but I was in second grade, so I'd give myself a pass. Kamala Harris is like 60 years old and telling this lie. But the fact that she's clearly lying

about being a firearm owner, in particular, actually firing the gun. That's not the interesting thing. Of course, she lies about everything. The interesting thing is that she feels the need to lie about this in the first place. And that shows you. She's lying about, she's pretending now all of a sudden to be some kind of border hawk. She's pretending to be a law and order, kick ass and take names,

lock them up, throw the bad guys away and throw away the key kind of person she's pretending. And she's even pretending that she's a gun nut now. The fact that she feels she needs to lie about that is the most telling thing. And what it says is actually encouraging. It says that on the right, we're winning on those issues. We're winning culturally, at least. And we may not be winning politically, but

Because to win politically, you need to elect people who can advance this agenda legislatively. But culturally, we're winning on immigration crime and gun rights. The fact that the most left wing, the most liberal major party presidential candidate in history is putting on this performance, I think tells you everything you need to know. One more clip. Here she is on economics, which is always a great subject for her. Let's watch.

My plan is about saying that when you invest in small businesses, you invest in the middle class and you strengthen America's economy. Small businesses are part of the backbone of America's economy. But pardon me, Madam Vice President, the question was, how are you going to pay for it? Well, one of the things I'm going to make sure that the richest among us who can afford it

pay their fair share in taxes. It is not right that teachers and nurses and firefighters are paying a higher tax rate than billionaires and the biggest corporations. And I plan on making that fair. But we're dealing with the real world here. But the real world includes... How are you going to get this through Congress?

You know, when you talk quietly with a lot of folks in Congress, they know exactly what I'm talking about because their constituents know exactly what I'm talking about. Their constituents are those firefighters and teachers and nurses. He challenges her then on how she's going to pay for her plan, which is an important thing to challenge her on. And she has no idea how she'll pay for it.

That's not even the biggest problem here. The biggest problem is this completely insane claim. We just talked about it last week. Here it is again. The insane claim that people like teachers, you know, people who are at the income level of teachers pay a higher tax rate than rich people. And that is just totally delusional. It is absolutely disconnected from reality. There are a lot of people who believe this nonsense.

And I'd love to see a poll on this. How many Americans believe this? How many Americans actually believe that rich people are paying a lower tax rate than teachers? I would not be surprised if someone did that poll and it came back that 70% of Americans or something believe this. It's just such a common claim. It's not remotely true, okay? It is not remotely true.

Here's what is true. The highest federal tax rate in this country applies to single individuals who have an income of about $600,000, a little more than $600,000. For joint filing, it's like $700,000, $750,000, something like that. These people are paying

Almost 40%. And that's just federal income tax. That doesn't count state taxes, doesn't count property taxes. When you factor all that in, you're talking about some people are paying 50%, 60% almost of their income in taxes. Teachers are not paying that much. Teachers are not paying, let's stick with just federal income taxes. Teachers are not paying 40%, not even close. And they certainly aren't paying more than 40%.

Okay, if you're a teacher paying more than 40% of your income, you have the worst accountant on earth. I don't know what you need to go to TurboTax. I don't know what you're doing that you're paying that much. Most teachers are going to end up in the bracket that pays like 12%. If you look at the brackets on the IRS website, it would technically put a lot of teachers in the 22% bracket at most.

But then you have to factor in deductions and all that stuff so that most teachers are not actually paying 22%. But again, none of them, none of them are paying more than 40%, which is what people who qualify as rich by IRS standards have to pay. And did you notice something about the tax brackets? These rich people

are not all billionaires. In fact, almost none of them are billionaires. There are only like 700 billionaires in the whole country. Billionaires are basically irrelevant. They barely exist. 700 in a country of 330 million people. You could confiscate all of their money, take all of it,

You could put a tax rate of 100% on billionaires and it would fund the government for like a week or something, okay? I mean, the government spends $16 billion a day, okay, a day. So you could take Elon Musk's entire net worth and

and reduce him to poverty, which I know the left would love to do that, it would fund the government for what, two weeks? Two weeks. So the billionaires don't matter. They don't really matter when it comes to, it's marginal. They're spending so much money and there are so few billionaires that it's a drop in the bucket. These taxes on the rich are mostly screwing over people who are not billionaires. In fact, a huge number

of these people are not even millionaires. Okay, again, the top tax rate, you're talking about $600,000 for a single individual. So these aren't even millionaires. And while that's happening, these idiot liberals are pretending that actually somehow by some voodoo magic, public school teachers are paying more in taxes than people who have to fork over 40% of their income to the federal government. And we went over this already, but

So higher income people, by that I mean, and the IRS means, more importantly, people who make 600K or more, not billionaires, not even close to billionaires, higher income people pay for almost everything. They get the worst deal by a long shot. They get screwed the most by our current tax system, and it's not even close.

Okay? I know it's not a popular thing. It's not very populist to say, oh, boo-hoo, someone who makes 600K is getting robbed by the government. But yeah, you know what? Yeah, boo-hoo. It's a bad thing. It is a bad thing. It's actually outrageous. The government is just straight up stealing nearly half of the income of millions of American families, millions of American workers,

who have worked extremely hard to get to where they are and they have families to take care of, only to get ruthlessly punished for it. So yeah, they are the victims of the tax system, okay? I mean, they just are. People who make 40, 50, 60K, the average American income, they do pretty well when it comes to federal income taxes. They're getting screwed in a bunch of other ways. Everybody is, every American is.

getting screwed by the system because we have an incompetent, corrupt, wasteful government and federal bureaucracy that screws everybody over. No question about it. So we're all getting a raw deal. But my point is when it comes to the federal income tax system specifically, higher income people have by far the most to complain about. And

It doesn't surprise me that this is a truth, a truth that very few politicians will ever articulate. Even the conservatives, the supposed conservatives, even the people who certainly know better, most of them are not going to come out and say this. Because then it's like you're accused of crocodile tears for the rich. So no one just comes out and says, stop the nonsense.

Teachers are not paying more. Middle class people, working class people are not paying more in taxes than people who are in the top income tax bracket. That is not happening. And yes, the fact that anyone in this country is having nearly half of their income taken by the federal government is a travesty. It is an injustice. It's insane.

But we're not supposed to talk about that, I guess. All right. Karen Jean-Pierre was asked about sending money to Lebanon while American citizens are suffering from Hurricane Helene. And this is a bit of an exchange. Got a little bit heated. Let's watch this. On this issue of funding, the administration has money to send to Lebanon without Congress coming back.

But Congress does have to come back to approve money to send to people in North Carolina. Do I have that right?

Here's what I'm going to be very clear about. The president and the vice president has had a robust, whole-of-government response to this. Hundreds of millions of dollars. I said it at the top, more than $200 million that we have directly put towards survivors here for disaster help. And that's because of this president's commitment to make sure that we are there for communities that are impacted. President Biden is fond of saying,

Show me your budget and I will tell you what you value. If he's got money for people in Lebanon right now without Congress having to come back, what does it say about his values? There's not enough money right now for people in North Carolina who need it. That's not misinformation. Wait, no, that is. Your whole premise of the question is misinformation, sir.

Yes, yes, it's misinformation. I just mentioned to you that we provided more than $200 million to folks who are impacted in the area. And I just shared with you that people are deciding not to. People are deciding not to. We're talking about the SBA disaster loan. Yes. And that's important. I'll just stop it there.

Cuz I mean, I'm just looking at the screenshot of it. This is a mystery to me. I was like, I didn't sleep last night. I was tossing and turning trying to solve this mystery of why is she wearing this? Why is she dressed like that? Why is she dressed like a Dick Tracy villain? Why is she wearing her great grandfather's suit jacket? Why does she look like a child who just raided like a box of clothes in their grandmother's attic?

Right, like I can smell the mothballs through the screen. Why is she wearing? I can't move on until I know, I really can't. I can't move on with my life until I understand why she wore that. Was it a joke? Am I missing context on this thing? There must be some kind of context that would make sense of why she's wearing that. Was this a dare? Was it a bet?

Why does she look like three kids stacked on top of each other in a trench coat and a fake mustache trying to sneak into a racetrack and a cartoon from the 40s? That's what I wanna know. Why does she look like she's about to play the trumpet in a 90s ska band? She's about to go swing dancing. Maybe that explains it. Did she come out to start the press conference and say, I just got back from swing dancing?

Why do I have Zoot Suit Riot stuck in my head after watching this clip? Why does she look like a cross between like a prohibition era mobster and a prohibition era hobo? Like a black lesbian Al Capone. I just don't get it. Anyway, what were they talking about? Yeah, the government is sending billions to Lebanon even as our own citizens are left to die. That's true. That is happening. No way around it. No way around that. No way around that suit jacket she's wearing.

Just know what you can't, you literally can't get around. It's so wide. It's got shoulder pads. Like she could be in the NFL with the shoulder pads on that thing. She's wearing shoulder pads. The size, it's like a, it's like a NFL nose tackle, uh, shoulder pads on that, on that suit jacket. So I don't get it. I just don't get it. I'm perplexed.

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Well, the last few daily cancellations we had on the show have been, you might argue, not very serious. This segment today will be, therefore, a rather jarring change of pace because today we're going to cancel a woman named Ellen Wiebe. She is a Canadian doctor, and I use the term doctor very loosely here, who specializes in abortion and euthanasia.

This woman has made killing into her life's work. She has a body count that history's most prolific serial killers would envy, and she's extremely proud of it. Weeb was featured in a recent documentary for the BBC by journalist Liz Carr, who set out to investigate the issue of so-called assisted dying. Now, Carr is disabled herself and approaches the topic...

from a very skeptical viewpoint. She's worried, and she should be, that the proliferation and normalization of euthanasia is putting disabled people like herself at risk. And it is. Her documentary titled Better Off Dead, which with a question mark, that's a question, not a statement, came out a few months ago. But the clip of her conversation with Weeb just went viral this week. Watch.

Hello. Thank you for seeing me. You too. Should we do hands and whatever? Are we very formal? Are we not? We don't need to be formal, but we also don't need to touch hands. Fine, good. Yes, well, when your hands are drenched in blood, it's probably best if you don't go around touching other people's hands. So at least the doctor was being considerate there, I guess. We're only 20 seconds in, and Weeb has barely said anything. And you're already getting the impression this woman is a straight-up psychopath.

And I promise you, it only gets worse from here. Watch. - You do this work actually here sometimes? - Most people want to die in their own homes. - Yeah. - And so I would be in their home. And of course, many people are in hospital, in hospice, in care homes. And then there are people who don't feel comfortable dying at home. For example, they don't want their spouse to have to deal with their memory of them dying in their home.

So then they come here and this is a recliner and so people recline here and they can snuggle up with their loved ones if they want. And so it's a good place for some people.

So this is the serene, beautiful death that Weeb offers her quote unquote patients. They can sit in the corner of her drab office on a faux leather recliner and stare at the white wall under the fluorescent lights while an old woman with short hair and a fake smile puts them down like a dog.

I truly cannot imagine a worse way to die. I really can't. I'd rather be shot and bleed out in the street than die in that woman's office. And I mean that totally sincerely. Let's continue. How many maids deaths have you been involved with? Over 400. That sounds like a lot. Is that what you do now? No, no, I still run a contraception and abortion clinic in addition to my maid work.

So she has killed 400 people through euthanasia, in addition to the presumably hundreds of abortions she's performed in her career. This woman has single-handedly killed the population of a small town. And no human being is meant to experience that much death, much less administer it. If you have a conscience, this much death and misery would weigh heavily on your mind. You would be crushed by it. You'd be incapacitated by it.

That's how a normal person with a soul would respond. But Ellen Wiebe doesn't feel that way. In fact, she is positively giddy. The very idea of human suffering makes her laugh. And I mean that literally. Watch. I don't have the desire. I think probably I would be eligible under the Canadian law. Well, you'd have to be suffering unbearably. And you'd have to convince me that you were suffering unbearably.

And from what you said, I know you're not going to do anything here. I mean, words cannot describe how deeply unsettling this is. I mean, I find this woman truly more viscerally terrifying than any horror movie villain. How could a person even manage physically to smile like that while saying the phrase, you'd have to be suffering unbearably?

Literally smiling and laughing at the thought of unbearable human suffering. I have watched prison interviews with serial killers where there was more empathy and humanity on display. And later in the interview, Dr. Wiebe has another hearty laugh at the thought of her disabled interviewer developing a terminal illness. Again, not exaggerating, watch. So Liz, right now you love life and you want to live, but there's lots of nasty illnesses you might get. Yeah.

And if you got terminal cancer and you were having to deal with chemotherapy and radiation, wouldn't you be thrilled that if you had the choice to say, I'll go this far and no further? My God, I would rather be like tortured to death by the Taliban in a cave somewhere than have that person doing the honors, let's say.

And there is inappropriate laughter, you know, the Kamala laugh, as it's come to be known. And we're used to that at this point. But then there is the psychotic supervillain laughter talking about unbearable suffering and terminal illnesses like they're the punchlines to a joke would certainly fall into the latter category. I mean, this woman would be the most disturbing stand-up comedian of all time.

So I think you get the point by now. This is an evil person. And when your country legalizes euthanasia, not to mention abortion, you are inviting people like this into the medical field. People who, rather than healing and treating the sick, actually have a deep desire to kill, it would seem. Or at the very least, they enjoy it. She says at the end of this interview that she loves her job.

killing people who are suffering unbearably. She loves it. She says that. Someone who takes joy in human suffering. And, you know, that's reason enough of so many other reasons. That is reason enough to outlaw the practice of euthanasia. But Dr. Weeb did say one enlightening and even insightful thing, actually. When asked why people choose euthanasia, she said this.

Do you think some the number one reason that people want MAID? The reason, the number one reason is autonomy, control. And what? Everybody's different in what they think of as autonomy and control. Yeah. So that would be about not

wanting to lose that in their lives. Yes. Control. They desperately want control. Like they want to say, it's now. And we say, okay, well, I can get back here at seven o'clock. Is that okay? And they'll say yes. And they'll be so grateful that they can skip the last two days of their life. And I look at it and think,

What you really needed was some more drugs, but you want my drugs, I'll give them to you. Now notice something, because this is very interesting. She did not say that people choose euthanasia because they want to end their suffering. She didn't say that. She even acknowledges that in most cases there are drugs that could do that. I mean, drugs that could keep you alive for the time being while also ending or at least greatly mitigating your physical suffering.

So she says that they choose euthanasia because they want to take control. And she returns to this theme a couple of times in the interview. And I'll say that at least on this topic, she is an expert. She's an expert in killing people. And so I would trust her judgment on that at least. She says they're doing it because they want to take control. And yeah, I think she's exactly right. In fact, I have made that precise point many times in the past about this subject.

To hear it repeated by an administer of euthanasia is pretty compelling confirmation. As I've argued, in a morbidly ironic way, euthanasia, quote unquote, assisted dying, is a product of a society that fears death. We are a culture of death, not because we love death, although Dr. Wiebe seems to love it, because we're so deeply terrified of it. The paradox is that people who fear death the most end up embracing it.

Because death is outside of our control. It is, along with taxes, the most unavoidable fact of life. Some people, when staring down the barrel of this unavoidable fact of life, they try to gain the system by taking control, killing themselves before nature has a chance to do it. But there are two things you should notice about this. First, the logic doesn't make any sense. You're not actually taking control of anything. This is not you seizing control.

It's like if you're on a plane that's in the process of crashing and you take control of the situation by jumping out of the plane at 30,000 feet without a parachute. You're still falling to your death. You haven't taken control of anything at all. You're tumbling uncontrollably to your own death. The only thing you've achieved, the only thing, is that now, rather than being the victim of a tragic accident, your death will forever be recorded as a suicide.

but you're just as dead either way. The manner of your death is almost exactly the same, but now you took your own life. There's no control there. I mean, you hear about someone taking control when their plane's about to crash. What in your head would that mean is like they seize control of the plane and they stop it from crashing. That's taking control. But if you're still dead at the end of it, you have not taken control. If you could really have control over the situation, it would just not crash and you would live.

So you have not taken control here. And now your death, it's certainly not more honorable and most certainly not more dignified. The opposite is the case, really. And that's the tragedy of it. Second, whatever you say about this control issue, and even if you think that taking your own life right before the plane crashes is somehow more dignified and honorable than dying in the crash itself, either way, no matter how you look at it,

One thing is for certain, this has nothing to do with medicine. The medical field should not be anywhere near this. Whatever else you might say about the decision to jump out of the plane, it is definitely not a medical treatment, okay? Just as sitting on a recliner in that cackling woman's office and letting her give you a fatal dose of poison so that her evil grin will be the last thing you see before you shuffle off this mortal coil is not a medical treatment.

Even if I agree that it's an advisable decision or a morally defensible one, which I do not, I still would not call it medicine because it is not medicine. That is the fundamental problem with legalized euthanasia. Death is not medicine. You cannot treat or cure someone by directly and intentionally killing them.

My apparently controversial view is that the medical field should only be involved in medicinal practices. A doctor should be solely focused on diagnosing and treating injury and illness. Nothing more and nothing less. That's why they exist. It's what their job is for. Euthanasia and, yes, abortion puts them in the position of doing the opposite of what their job is for.

The difference between a euthanasia doctor and a real doctor is the difference between a firefighter and an arsonist, between a bank teller and a bank robber. I mean, imagine living in some bizarro world where if you really want to commit arson, you want to burn down your neighbor's home with him still inside it, you could legally call someone to do it for you. And now imagine that the firefighters themselves were the ones you called.

Imagine that firefighters were tasked both with starting fires and putting them out. I mean, to call that a conflict of interest would be a massive understatement. In the medical field, the firefighters have become the arsonists. Those we trust to save lives are now paid to destroy them. And the more we allow this, the more we're going to end up with doctors like Ellen Wiebe.

And that should be enough reason to convince any sane person to reject euthanasia entirely. It's also certainly enough reason to say that Ellen Wiebe is today most definitely canceled. That'll do it for the show today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Talk to you tomorrow. Have a great day. Godspeed.