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Matt Walsh Breaks Down The "Am I Racist?" Support Group Scene

2024/10/12
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Matt Walsh: 本电影片段展现了我在一部名为《我种族歧视吗?》的电影中参加一个旨在帮助白人参与者处理其内化种族偏见的支持小组的经历。该场景突出了白人参与者在面对自身种族偏见时的情感挣扎和矛盾,以及社会规范对白人成员行为的影响。在支持小组中,我经历了从最初的积极参与到最终被要求离开的转变,这反映了小组成员对我的身份认知转变以及由此产生的冲突。我观察到小组成员对我的态度存在差异,有人是秘密支持者,有人则强烈反对。我最终承认了自己的真实身份——Matt Walsh,这加剧了冲突。电影中的一些细节是精心设计的彩蛋,例如我一位黑人朋友在场景中的表演。电影中存在多层次的叙事,一些背景细节和人物行为暗示着更深层的含义。我的出现引起了支持小组成员的强烈反应,甚至报警。我最终反思到自己可能永远不会被支持小组成员接受,这体现了我对社会偏见的反思。电影中浴室场景的拍摄过程,说明了电影制作中一些不寻常的做法。我个人认为自己在电影中的浴室场景表演是其职业生涯中最精彩的表演之一,强调了表演的细微之处,例如眼神和服装细节,这些细节能够传达出人物的情感和状态。电影中我最终的造型设计,是向另一部电影《什么是女人?》中的教授致敬。电影拍摄过程中产生了大量的素材,很多场景最终被剪辑掉了。电影剪辑过程中,一些场景因为时长过长或不必要而被删除。

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Matt Walsh details his experience in a support group for people confronting their internalized racism. He discusses his initial participation, the unexpected offer to lead the group, and the shift in atmosphere after his identity as a conservative commentator is revealed.
  • Matt Walsh attends a support group for individuals dealing with internalized racism in the film "Am I Racist?"
  • He participates actively in the group until his identity as a conservative commentator is revealed.
  • The group's reaction to Walsh's identity creates a pivotal moment in the film.

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Okay, we're here at the movies. We're going to watch a scene from my new film, Am I Racist? And I'll give a little commentary as we go along, walk you through it. Before we play this, quick setup if you haven't seen the movie yet. This is the first support group that I go to as I'm just beginning the journey to decenter my whiteness.

and I'm really confronting my internalized racism. And so it's very important that I go to this group. It's a support group for people that are dealing with their own whiteness. At this point where it picks up, I've already been at the group for a while and I've been participating. I feel really good about it. I don't know how the other people in the group feel. I get emotional at one point. I leave to the cry room, which they have set up specifically for white people who cry because you don't want to cry in front of a black woman, we're told.

While I'm in the cry room getting very emotional, that's when the people in the group realize who I am. They realize that I'm a dastardly conservative commentator. And I come back in and the tone is very much shifted. And that's where it picks up. So let's watch. The white participants in the group feel that there's something in themselves that they have to overcome.

when all that's being requested is that you speak. I have no idea why she stands. I've watched this scene a million times. I don't know why that woman stands. How are you? Sign of respect, maybe. How are you? Oh, no problem. You good? Yeah. Remind me of your name again. Uh, Stephen. Stephen? Yeah? Okay. Um, do you want to come up? Come up? Yeah, do you want to come up and share? Okay, so pause it there for a second. Sure, what do you want? So this is interesting because...

When you're making a movie like this and it's all real, we're talking to real people and we want to get authentic reactions. There's no script or anything. You go into any scene or any interview, you don't know exactly what anybody's going to say. You know what you want to get out of the scene because we're telling a story. We're trying to expose something. We're doing all that. In my head, going into any of these situations, there's like a

It's a tree with different branches of possibilities of what they could say and how I should react to it. But sometimes they hit you with something you weren't expecting. And so when I came in and I sat down and I knew they were not gonna be happy,

that they'd want to kick me out. I did not expect that Brescia, who's leading the group, would ask me if I want to come up and lead the group. That was a total, that was an unexpected thing. And so in my head right now, there's a little bit of, it's a quandary because I'm like, well, this is a, maybe I should come get up and start leading the group. I didn't expect to have that opportunity. But at the same time, we need them to kick me out because we also need that for the story.

This is our inciting incident. The reason why I end up wearing a costume. So I had to decline. I declined the opportunity to get up and lead the group. I think ultimately that was the right choice, but I still wrestle with that. Like my physical safety and yours and everybody else's here is okay? Why would your physical safety not be okay? Did I miss something? I don't feel comfortable. What?

Can you guys catch me up to speed on what's going on here? You don't need to be caught up. We're going to be silent. See, you check the woman next to me. Looks like she's going to start laughing. It depends on how you count them. Let's pause it for a second. Let's pause it. Right there. Yeah, right there. So this woman, the blonde woman next to me, I feel like she's a... And I've also been trying to figure this out ever since the movie. I think she's a secret fan because she almost broke multiple times.

The guy on the other side of me is not a fan at all. That guy is definitely not a fan. You know, the other interesting detail about that dude is that he's a professional cuddler, a cuddlist.

Is what they call him in the business. That didn't come up during the scene, but we just knew that about him. Because we do our background research. He's a professional cuddlist. He cuddles people for a living. I didn't get a very cuddly vibe from this guy, I've got to be honest with you. The whole time I was there, it didn't feel very welcoming from him. Let's continue.

I would really appreciate it if you left so that the people who actually want to be here and deserve to be here can get what they need. I do want to be here. Can you please leave? I would like it if you left. I'm trying to learn. I'm on this journey. Come with me. Well, I didn't consent to be touched. I'm not offering to touch you. I'm proud of that line. I got to say I'm proud of that. Okay, I'll admit it. I'll admit it. My name's not Steven. Maybe you already knew that. My name is Matt Walsh. Mm-hmm. We know.

I just was here on this journey that I'm just starting, but I see that I'm not wanted. If you were on your journey, then you would have told us who you were and your real name, but you didn't. Are you saying I needed a better disguise? Is that what you-- I don't know. Maybe. But you can figure that out as you walk out the door.

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who appears multiple times in the film, has quite a prominent role. You see him in the background there. Only in this scene, he's not my friend. He's pretending. You can see he's pretending to be upset that I have infiltrated and crashed this seminar. So there's a lot of, you know, there's like the movie within the movie within the movie. And one of the ways that you can make a movie like this is that there has to be a whole other

kind of narrative playing out in the background that is not on camera except for only brief glimpses. And there it is. I think he's playing the role really, really brilliantly. You can see he's got his hand on the hip. He's like, who is this guy? Get this guy out of here. Really well done. Well done performance. And my pronouns are he, him. The cops, the cops did come. They did show up in real life.

I was raw and emotional. I was long gone. I fled the state. I was in New Jersey by the time they showed up. And they called the police. My mere presence in the room caused them pain. I'll never be accepted. Now look at the acting. Look at the acting in this scene here. If they know that I'm Matt Walsh, I'll always be an outsider.

I need to go deeper undercover. This scene here, because this is a scene that we shot in the bathroom actually, in the bathroom here at DW Studios. We had this all, and normally that would be, it's frowned upon to set up cameras and lighting inside a bathroom, especially at work, at your workplace. That's an HR violation. It's like in the handbook. You don't do that. But in this case, it was okay because nobody else was using the bathroom at the time.

And anyway, but this little scene here, this little moment, I consider to be my finest acting moment in the film and in my professional career. And it doesn't seem like much because on the surface, all I'm doing is just

staring expressionless in a mirror, but there's all these, it's subtle. It's a very subtle, the acting here. It's Oscar worthy, if we're being honest. This is Daniel Day-Lewis level acting. It looks like I'm just staring, but it's in my eyes. You can see, and there's other, you see that I have one button unbuttoned on the shirt. That's another, it's a little subtle move, which expresses the

that I forgot to button, the top button, I guess. But anyway, that's what you want to look for in this scene. The acting is all in the eyes here. - I need to look like one. Like someone who is progressive, tolerant, enlightened. Let me think. Have I ever met anyone like that? Ah, yes. Yes, I have. - What is a woman? - Why do you ask that question? - Here it is, the superhero origin story, the big reveal.

There we go. Yeah, that's the scene. You know, something else I could tell. I don't think I've... I think this is a behind-the-scenes note that I haven't told anybody yet. I don't think it's come up or I haven't revealed it, but... Well, I get asked a lot about deleted scenes. Are there deleted scenes? Of course, there are a lot of deleted scenes. Anytime you're making a movie, you're going to have deleted scenes. You're making a movie like this, you're going to have a lot of deleted scenes because we have, like, I don't know, 10 hours of raw footage, probably more. But...

Actually, this little reveal here of me wearing the professor, you know, the callback, as you can see, we're not very subtle about it, modeled my look after the professor from What is a Woman, who, by the way, I'm sure is thrilled that he made an appearance in a second Matt Walsh film. Anyway, this reveals, actually, this is part of a longer, this is actually, what you see right there is part of a 12-hour, I'm not exaggerating,

Part of a 12-hour shoot that we did, we had a whole wardrobe. You know the classic from every movie ever made where they've got the wardrobe change scene, the wardrobe montage where you're trying on different crazy costumes before you land on the right one. And we had a whole scene like that that we did. It took 12 hours to film. They had me in all these different costumes.

And it was torture, the worst thing I've ever done in my career is a torturous, not only is it 12 hours of filming, but you're putting me in wardrobe and makeup over and over and over again, which is my least favorite thing and making me wear silly costumes, which is even less of my favorite thing. And so we had that scene, but we ultimately decided that it just, it was too long and we didn't need all of it. All we needed was this shot. And so that hit the cutting room floor.

And you'll never see it. It'll never see the light of day. Don't ask me if we're going to release it. We're not. You will never, ever see that scene. But I think what we left with is even better. I don't know how to end this. I think that's good. Sean?

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