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Matt Walsh DESTROYS Super Nerd Ben Shapiro (And His Silly Little "Experts")
2025/5/24
The Matt Walsh Show
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Ben Shapiro's Expert
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Jordan B. Peterson
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Matt Walsh
Matt Walsh: 我认为《指环王：王者归来》被严重高估了。这部电影时长过长，三个半小时简直应该被禁止。电影有多重结尾，这显示了 Peter Jackson 作为电影制作人的不成熟。此外，剧情存在明显漏洞，例如，如果老鹰可以轻易将 Frodo 和 Sam 送到末日火山，为什么一开始不这么做？还有，Aragorn 的亡灵军队过于强大，如果他们那么厉害，为什么不早点派他们上场？这些问题让整个故事显得毫无意义。我认为我比 Tolkien 更有资格评价《指环王》。
Ben Shapiro's Expert: 电影的长度应该由情节决定，而《指环王》的情节值得这么长。事实上，剧场版还不够长，导演剪辑版才能提供完整的体验。老鹰的使用应该谨慎，过度使用会降低故事的可信度。甘道夫是明智的巫师，他拥有强大的力量，但不滥用。至于亡灵军队，他们的确有点像 deus ex machina，但在电影中是必要的，否则电影会更长。
Interviewee: 我觉得《指环王》有点被高估了，而且电影确实太长了，我没法一口气看完。Frodo 有点爱抱怨，而且他需要 Sam 的支持才能完成任务。甘道夫在《王者归来》结尾使用老鹰是一个巨大的情节漏洞。
Deep Dive
Matt Walsh argues that Return of the King is excessively long, citing its multiple endings and suggesting that the movie could have been significantly shorter without losing its narrative integrity. He points out plot issues, such as the convenient use of eagles, and the army of ghosts, which could have resolved the conflict much earlier.
- Return of the King is over three and a half hours long.
- The movie has four endings.
- The use of eagles as a deus ex machina is criticized.
- The army of ghosts makes the film's conflict seem pointless.
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