“I Lost $100 Million Partying” - Scott Storch TELLS ALL: Diddy, Suge Knight, Dre, Kanye & Kim K | PBD Podcast | Ep. 605
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Used to be. Turned out to be a f***ing piece of s***. Lose it if I see this guy in public, man. What was your relationship with Diddy? You get invited into the house. Not many people get into the house. Nobody was taking advantage of me, but Bieber knew what the f*** he was doing. He was trying to hang out. I'm cool with everybody, man. Like, I don't know, maybe not after this interview. I had the first Bugatti. That's Kim K? Yep. She made a song, by the way, called F*** You, Scott Storch. I can tell you that's a funny f***.

the story. Did you and DMX do anything or no? And he's smoking crack while they're handcuffing him, like with the handcuffs on, getting his last hit. And it was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine like, man, you really need to get your shit together. I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro. This is all real talk. What do you think about music these days? This shit is wax. This shit is horrible right now. Honestly, like good music has no expiration date. I heard

I made it stutter and go... Guess who's back? Scott Stutz!

Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright. My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one-on-one? I don't think I've ever said this before. I'm going to.

Scott Storch in the house. How you doing? I'm chilling. Thanks for having me, man. Yeah. It's crazy. We were having dinner at Shout Out to Martirano. Oh, yeah. Stevie. Stevie. And we're over there, and I'm with some friends. You're with some friends. And I'm like...

Babe, is that? Yeah. How you doing? And we're talking outside. And then a few months later, Adam, you guys are talking. How did you guys get linked up all of a sudden? We have a couple mutual friends, MJ, Buddha, a couple guys. And then the night we were talking...

I was telling him what I do, and Scott sometimes will play it cool. And at the end of the night, he goes, is this your guy right here? Shows a picture of you. And I'm like, yeah. He goes, oh, this guy we had. And then it's been off the races ever since. I remember this. So I know you as producer what you've done. But then Adam's like, do you really know? I'm like, I think I know. Pat, let me tell you what this guy's done. I'm like, what has he done? Then he keeps playing.

Hits after, I'm like, there's no way. He did this. And he did this. And he did that. And he did this. And I pulled it on him. Here's volume of number one hits. You did Beyonce, Baby Boy. Fat Joe's Lean Back.

50 Cent Candy Shop. I mean, Candy Shop, right? Mario, Let Me Love You. Chris Brown, Run It. And you've worked pretty much with everybody and anybody. You didn't even scratch the surface of some of my biggest records. Cry Me a River. I mean, there's so many. Cry Me a River, Justin Timberlake. Yeah. I mean, there's so many. Still Dre. Yeah.

I mean, countless. Honestly, I've done more music, I think, than any producer, period. Oh, what did Fat Joe say? Fat Joe say Spotify has all your songs, 53 billion streams is what he said. Yeah, it's more than that now. And it's the top...

like 1%, like it's like there's only a few people up that high in terms of streams and Drake is one of them, I'm one of them and you know, it's an honor man, you know. I'm passionate about what I do. I didn't do it for the money, I did it for the love and the passion.

And then, you know, if you have passion for something, you're going to, you know, excel at it. But the stories, man, I mean, the stories goes with the parties, the ladies, the names, you know, the best of the best at the peak. It goes on and on and on. So a lot of that stuff was post-work. You know what I mean? Like I was work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. And then all of a sudden...

But we'll get to that later. How did it get started for you? Like at the beginning, did you, since you were a kid, like, you know, an artist comes in here, say you're an architect, you're like, I don't know if I would have cut the doors this way and I would have cut it this way. Do you go to a place and if somebody goes and you're like, dun, dun, dun, dun, do you automatically...

link every sound to creating a beat? Is that how your brain is wired? No, I'm receiving satellite. I swear to God. You ever drive somewhere and you black out and you're like, how did I get here? That's how it happens for me. I'll just...

Oh, shit. That's it. Throwing shit against the wall. Would you mind if we just start off with you doing a couple of the beats? Sure. For the audience to know. If you want to invite in, I want the audience to kind of hear. My friend Jalen is here. Yeah, if we can get Jalen, our handsome son. Jalen, the guy could be a model. Good looking boy. Is he here with us? You know what? I can say something about all my children. Sperm won. He really did. Yeah.

All right, Jalen, so if you can help set them up. Let's get these. There you go. One by one by one. I want to see. By the way, when you're listening to this, folks, the moment he does it, you're going to be like, no flipping way. We can start with. You want to help him put that mic in front of him, Rob, so we can catch him there as well? Whatever you want to start off with. What the hell is that? The polarity is wrong on this. Turn my headphones up. Turn my headphones up. Keyboard. Lower octave. All right.

So, should I just get right into it? Get right into it. The audience is going to get it, especially if they're our age. They're going to sit there and say, oh, shit. I'm going to preface this with a few things. First of all, music today is made with computers. And just like even movies back in the day were made with computers.

The story, the acting, everything had to be intense because there was no CGI, there was no this and that. And people like the Beatles or whoever would sit down with no electricity, a pad and a pen, and a guy on a piano, and a melody was written. And that's where the substance comes from. And that's why, not to toot my own horn, but my records...

are timeless. Like good music has no expiration date. You can put it on now or then and the shit is forever. Like my catalog just keeps going. Whereas most records now people like them, but it's like fast foods. That's it. And it tanks. So with that being said, like I have a couple of the records that I've done. They are like considered to be some of the most

iconic, I guess, piano riffs or whatever in the history of music. One of them is, you know, my buddy Dr. Dre and I, we made the Chronic 2000 album together and this was one of the pieces I came up with in the... That's insane to me. Now let me ask you this, Scott. The first time

you presented this, was it freestyle or you did it privately yourself? Freestyle. So the first time you showed him this, what was his reaction? I mean, I've told this story before. Like we were working in the studio and it was like towards the end of the making of the album. And, um, he programmed the drum pattern and just left it playing and went into like the kitchen, which is an earshot to make a sandwich or something. And, um,

I just was throwing shit against the wall, and I started playing that. And I was thinking to myself, why not play something really sloppy? Instead of going, I made it stutter and go, I make it, the wrong is the right. Sometimes our imperfections is a perfection. So I did that, and all of a sudden, Trey opens the door. He's like, that's it. That's my fucking single. It was like that. And by the end of the day, he sent it off to Jay-Z to write it.

And it came back, and it was fire. It was fucking fire, dude. Oh, trust me. I know because we played it. Everybody played it. Give me a Rhodes. And Scott, who were you at that point? Because Dre was already Dre. But you weren't known at that point. I know you were with the Roots. But at this point, Dre was here. Where were you? You should have your headphones on, man. I was...

Um, the producer's producer. No, I mean, like, honestly, I started in the roots and did a lot of stuff for them. Very underappreciated. I was the guy who, like, again, came up with a lot of the nucleus of what that shit was. And I left the group and was told that I was, like,

the Pete Best of the Roots. You know, Pete Best is the guy that quit the Beatles. Yeah. And like, I mean, even my girlfriend like broke up with me because of that and said, oh, you fucked up and this and that. I was like, no, I didn't. Like, I see bigger. I'm not going to go on the road with a bunch of guys that don't appreciate me and be like, that's the white guy who plays keys in the Roots. So no, I'm the fucking guy coming up with all the shit. They didn't appreciate you. Not at all. It was a fallout. They called me the white devil.

And I'm like the most harmonious, loving, non-racist person ever. And like, it just hurt me. How'd you meet him? How'd you, how'd you link up with him? Cause I work out to one of the songs from Roots. The one that you did. Yeah. Well, that wasn't made for the Roots. That song, after I left the Roots, they realized, I guess, that they needed me still. And that was, you know,

I got my own little studio in this place called Sigma Sound where all the disco stuff was recorded. This is where? What city? In Philly. Okay. And they record there downstairs. So, of course, they come upstairs and they're like, you got anything? And they saw I was working with this girl. I'm working with a girl who at the time worked at Urban Outfitters.

And now she's one of the most legendary, um, Neo soul legends, Jill Scott. So Jill Scott was not an artist. I was like, yo, you should be an artist. You're awesome. She was like working at urban outfitters and doing an off Broadway, uh, rendition of, uh, rent. And, um, quest love came in and heard what we were making. And he said, I gotta have this. And that was, you got me the song you'd like to work out. And, um,

They told me, like when I gave it to them, I was like, make sure Jill stays on it. And at the last minute, they switched it to Erykah Badu. But Jill wrote it. Erykah Badu. And a lot of the people that I brought in the studio like that, that I believed in, that were the writers, they became stars. Like Neo, before he was an artist, was the guy that did Let Me Love You With Me with my boy Cam. But...

So, what was I going to play? This is... You know how it's going? Reload it. There we go. So this is a little something. I remember sitting in Westlake Studios, just, again, trying to receive satellite, and just like all of a sudden, shit spontaneously happens. Me and Justin Timberlake were sitting, just the two of us, in this like tiny little... And there's a big live room, and then there's the small one. And I had the Fender Rhoads set up. And...

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You get the idea. I already know. I found out from... And is it typically like right off the bat? Because when you hear that song, that song, it stays. The simplest shit is the most infectious shit sometimes. The simplest shit, wow. Oh.

I can't listen to that all week. Oh, my God. I've probably listened to that song 500 times this year. That's the roots. Oh. There's passion in that. Yeah. I didn't learn how to play. I didn't get taught. I just... I had a cassette recorder. I would put it on this broken, shitty, upright piano that my parents had when I was a little kid. I just...

- Boom. - Oh yeah, I just put it like-- - What was the inspiration though? Who did you look up to when you were coming up? - When I was that age, I was like 10 years old, I was listening to a combination of people like Ozzy Osbourne and Iron Maiden and Motown and Earth, Wind & Fire. I got this cassette called the 25th Anniversary of Motown. They even did a live show, legendary, that's where Michael Jackson kind of unveiled the moonwalk and all that.

Barry Gordy thing. So yeah, I just taught myself how to play and like I've always just was winging it. And I moved to Philly. I grew up in Florida. I moved to Philly at 15. And like I was like just going into ninth grade and I would just, we were in the suburbs of Philly and I would skip school and go into the city and try and find musicians and

I met these guys that, you know, quest love and all these guys. And we would set up on the street and like borrow power from a store. And, and we would just jam. And we got, ended up getting Wendy Goldstein's ear who was at Geffen. She's now the head of Republic. She was a Geffen. She was at Geffen. She was an A&R. Yeah. And we got to like, you know, a great deal. You know what I mean? None of us made any money or anything like that from the earlier stuff. Um,

But yeah. How did you get linked up with Dre? With Dre? I went to LA for the first time and it was a girl from Philly randomly out there who had like ran up to me. She's like, Scott. And like, I put her on, you got me as well. She was one of my friends. And I don't know if you know who that I'm talking about, but it's Eve, you know, the rapper. Yeah. This is gumball. Yeah. So Eve, um,

she's like yo you always were cool to me and her brother erex and they were like yo we're gonna get you in with dr dre i'm like dr dre are you serious as the first time i'm like broke as shit and you know three months behind in philly on rent and i go in to see dre and they you know she kept her word and i went in i waited in the lobby for like four hours and then

They said, Dre's waiting for you in the live room. I had no music to play for him. And I go in and he's like, you said you good on them keys, man. And I was like, all right. And I just thought to myself, man,

I'm not going to play anything I ever played before. I'm going to do the most ominous, like gangster type shit that I can think of. Not like the P-Funk shit that the West Coast was doing at that time. I just wanted to do something because I know Dre's into that type of stuff. And I just do something. And I played for a couple minutes. And like within an hour, I had like a hotel key for a nice boutique hotel, like 10 Gs. All my problems were solved. And I remember I went back.

And I got my stuff and I started a new life at that point. And I had to have like all my shit sent from Philly to LA. And like Dre and I just were like, the next day I went in to meet him in the studio. And he's like, I got this like white rapper kid. He's really dope. His name's Marshall. And like, we made just the two of us that day, which is like his first release on after that. No, I'm serious. Marshall matters. We're watching eight with the boys. Yeah. And then the next day,

I hit, I struck gold again. Like, you know, I, we're not on every day. Even Dre, this was Dre's expression. He said, you don't have to be on every day, just most days. You know what I mean? Like, which means your success rate, we're human. But if you're really the shit, you're usually going to come with that fire. And when you first time met Marshall, when you first time met him,

He had black hair, he was chubby, and it didn't look like nothing like... Did you feel there was something special about him? Bro, he's a beast. Right off the bat? A beast. But right off the bat, you felt it? Huh? Where you said, this guy's different? Yeah, immediately. And I knew, obviously, Dre has... His ears are priceless, so...

His ears are priceless. When I went to tell the people in the roots that I was still talking to, sort of, that I was going to work with Dre, they were like, ah, you're working with Dre 10 years too late, bro. Good luck.

Yeah, and we went on the run of runs. Did they really say that? Yeah, they're just all haters. What happened to those guys? I mean, they're on the Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon, the Roots, yeah. Yeah, I'm not trying to just dog them out. Like, whatever. That was a part of my journey. Same Roots? Yeah, can you pull them up, Rob? They're on Jimmy Fallon every single night. Yeah. But do they make new stuff, or it's just they're playing whatever that they're playing? I don't know. You wouldn't know that. I don't know. Like, I mean...

They play a lot of cool music. What year did Baby You Got Me? 97. I want to say chronologically if we go in order. Marshall Mathers, his first album, that came out in 98. That was before the Chronic 2000. No, it was 99. The end of 99, believe it or not. Hi, my name is... So that was before you did Still Dre.

Well, yeah, Dre released him, I think, if I remember correctly, first. Our Chronic album, Dre's album, came out in 2001. We started in 99. And when it comes out to him, okay, first impression, walks into the room, your feel, your vibe when you meet him, what's he like?

Forget about one. He's a funny dude. He is a funny dude. Yeah, yeah. He got a lot more serious over the years, but yeah, he's just a funny dude. Super cool. Eats Taco Bell every day. Literally every day. Yeah, he's a cool guy. He used to come to the house and make beats with me. He's such a like, you know, like the things that make me laugh that would stand out was Eminem. I remember Dre walking in the studio, and I just happened to be in the room with Em, and Em was adding, the album was done.

And he was adding sound effects, like actual sound effects, like things that related to his lyric. Like if it's a gunshot or something dropped, whatever it is. He was glass cracking, whatever it is, he was just doing that. And I remember Dre being like, yo, enough of them motherfucking sound effects, man. It's done. But he's like a mad scientist. He's like really involved. He's not just the rapper. He's like producing the album.

bringing the magic out of it the sauce what was the schedule like like you guys are coming in late you're going till six o'clock in the morning what was it like when you were not dre's crew it was organized it was three o'clock to like two or three three o'clock in the afternoon till two or three yeah every time and he was super so what are you guys doing when you guys in there together what does it look like i mean it some it's it's different different days dre has like

specific like casts that are on like certain days. Like sometimes it was more intimate. It was just me and I, and maybe one other guy and engineer. And then it was like, sometimes a lot of people like, you know, sometimes you bring in percussionists and so that, you know, the characters change in it, but you know, the nucleus of a lot of the things, this is you guys here. Yeah. Yeah.

I was a nerd. How old were you in that picture, Scott? Well, if I'm 51 now, that was in 99. 36 years ago. 99 is 36 years ago? Remember, I dropped out of school. 26 years ago. 99, 26 years ago. So 51, you're 25 years old. 25. So are you, at this point, have you already started playing, experiencing Hollywood ladies, partying or not yet? No. No. And it was all music. Yeah, yeah. And like...

There were some fun moments in there. There was a skit on the album where he wanted the sound of sex stuff going on, and all these porn stars were brought in. That was a fun session. Wait, the porn stars came in for the sound? Yeah, he got on microphones and just made sex sounds. That's it. They came in just for the sounds? Dre is so cool. I've seen Dre have stone and a shovel to catch a...

Like all kinds of, it's all set up in the live room with mics on it and shit. Like insane. He goes to different levels than most people. But look, I worked with Dre. It was a great period of my life, but at some point that I realized that Dre has his empire. It's now time to build mine. You know what I mean? And that moment happened at the, at the Grammys in 2005, 2005, I went there and a lot of the music, obviously, you know,

The one award that a producer can get is the producer of the year. And I watched Dre receive the producer of the year. I was jealous, I think, because I was involved in some of the music that year, and I was like, you know what? I want that for myself. So I told Dre, I love you. Best of friends. I'm going to move back to Florida. I'm not going to make gangster music. I'm going to just go a different direction and just try and build my shit. And then that came to 2006. Wow.

I had almost like, I think it was like 32 weeks at number one, something crazy of all the, you know, the records that I did from let me love you to baby boy, naughty girl, me, myself and I candy shop. These were all in like this, all these hits I made that year. And I was like, I'm going to be the producer of the year. I broke every record there is as a producer to break. And I remember I was sitting with Marilyn Manson and my girlfriend at the time was Paris and,

Paris Hilton. Yeah. And we went there. I left in disgust because I wasn't, you know, one of the nominees, but I wasn't nominated and I couldn't understand it. And I realized it was, it ended up being that one of the sky who produced like two songs for the gorillas, uh,

But there's a thing called the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences, NARIS. They're the ones who decides who gets the Grammys. And it's like a panel of, you got to be their poster child and suck their dick all fucking year long. I was busy making music. I was in the fucking trenches, like, getting it in and, like,

going beyond the abilities of any human being. And they, you know, because they're like, oh, how did you touch the culture? I killed it. I was all culture. But it's like they get to do what they want to do. And yeah, fuck the Grammys. There's nothing with stats in that. Like there's no, you know, it's not like billboard awards or something like that.

So let me ask you with the Grammys, just out of curiosity. I mean, it's got nothing to do with this. I want to come back to Paris and I want to hear Candy, I want to hear all that stuff. But with Grammys, why is it everybody thinks Beyoncé?

How much power does Beyonce have? I don't know. I can turn that story around. When we did that Dangerously In Love album, one of the biggest honors of my career, there's a video clip you can find online where she's accepting her award for best album or whatever in this and that. I forget what the category was. She thanked Jesus. She thanked me.

And then she thanked Jay-Z. I was like, no! I beat Jay-Z! Boom, boom, boom. No, it was a vital part of the album. Like, we sat in a studio for almost a month and just thugged it out. And, like, I brought in somebody from Philly who was, like, an old-school rapper that I just knew would add some, like, some...

street to it with her like perfect prettiness of like a lot of stuff she writes it was a gutter we made like some amazing who was in the album uh in the studio with you and beyonce at that time uh this writer named est from three times dope which is like an old school rap group and i convinced beyonce like yo this guy's gonna add something to it she's like i trust you whatever and um

That was it. I produced all at that time, like everything by myself. I didn't have any like, like now you'll see 20 names on a fucking song. What was your experience working with Beyonce? Was she a diva? Was she sweet? Was she fun? She was an absolute dream to work with. So like talented. I mean, I would say like,

One of the best singers, female-like soul singers ever to live. Aretha Franklin, Patti LaBelle, Beyonce. There's range, power in that voice, and she has a distinct idea of what she wants. She's an integral part of the writing and one of the most talented people I've ever worked with. Really? Yeah.

I mean, we made one of the songs that I love. I mean, everybody knows that. But she was like, yeah, yeah. It's a naughty girl. And we did the baby boy. No, go back to that. But we made the one that I love the most, which is me, myself and I, because it was like very like heartfelt. Yeah.

And I added a nice surprise chord. I can't believe... Sing it, Scott. It's like Rod Temperton singing the Michael Jackson songs. I want to rock with you. Oh, no. So while you were there with Beyonce, where was Jay-Z at this point? Were they married? Were they together? Yeah, yeah. I'd rather not comment on any of that stuff. But, like, yeah, they were...

I mean, he wasn't around, but she was in there focusing on her album. But did you work with Jay-Z at all? I've worked with him, yeah. I worked with him. I had a bunch of shit I did with him and Timberland. The Olavo Vito, all that stuff. How was he like? What was he like? Pove? Yeah. He likes to get people on their toes. I remember one time he came to the Hit Factory, Criteria Studios in North Miami, and

And it's probably one of the most legendary studios in the world. Forget about Miami. But like Timberland would have his studio on one end of the building. I had my studio on the other end. And I know Jay-Z came over and he said, yo, Scott, Timberland making some fire over there. I was like, really? Really? I get a call like from Timberland. He's like, what you making over there, man? Jay-Z came over and told me that you had some super fire over there.

He was trying to get us on our competitive, to get the best out of us and, like, get the eye of the tiger out of us. Like, piss us off. Like, oh, his shit was hot and mine wasn't. Like, smart guy. Did it work? Yeah. Did it work? It got you guys, too? Yeah. I mean, I guess it did. We figured it out, though. What was it? Did you ever do anything with Kanye? With Kanye? Yeah. Man, he used to be one of my musical heroes. Used to be.

I mean, the music is still great and that won't change. But as a person who was my friend and somebody I thought was an amazing person, one of the most creative people, turned out to be a fucking piece of shit. And I will fucking lose it if I see this guy in public, man. You know, like the disrespect that this man did to Jewish people and just labeling us and like glorifying Hitler and shit like that. And then doing it again.

and like really going like for the jugular if i if i was in a room i'll probably fucking crack him in his face and like he broke my heart one of his people che that like works for good music is one of my friends and i said yo tell your man he hurt me like i thought i was his friend but i guess i can't be his friend because i'm jewish like word like you're gonna glorify what if a motherfucker's walking around talking about glorifying like slavery and shit like that like

How does that work? Like, how are you going to do that and just, like, hurt so many people? I don't know what was behind that. Like, shock value at the expense of, like, so many people's heartbreaking. And, like, we lost Kanye. Like, I threw out all my Yeezys. Like, I couldn't believe it. Seriously. I mean, are you aware of, like, how this dude, like,

He really went in, man, like on some hate shit. Like, I don't get that. Like, yeah, the Taylor Swift shit was funny, like sort of like whatever. But this is a different story, man. Why do you think? I mean, you're in the world. Why do you think he did? I don't know, man. Like a lot of cool Jewish people like help them rise to the top. You know what I mean? There's a lot of cool people. Are you in contact with them? Like have you asked them? Have you approached them or not? No, I sent a message to him just telling him he broke my heart. I'm cool. It's all good. You never got back? He's a clown, dude.

He's a clown. Made great music, but he's a fucking clown. I'm not going to hold back. I might get some backlash for the shit I'm saying. I don't give a fuck. I'm good. I'm good. Like, I'm good. Like these types of quotes over here. I'm a Nazi. I love Hitler. Now what? It's one thing as for me, I don't know Kanye like you do. Like, this is a guy who like tried to like... This is a friend of yours. Yeah, like, did he forget that this is the guy who like fucking like...

Burn people in gas chambers and innocent people, kids. What the fuck is that? What kind of clown shit is that? I know you want to be witty and you want to be original. You want to be cool and say some off-the-cuff shit or some weird shit. That shit's not cool, man. Who the fuck are you? Who's closest? Because when you saw this pattern, it was right after what happened with his shoe deal. It was right after Kim K, right after things happened, marriage issues,

Who's in his ear that he would listen to? Who do you think he is where he can explain why he's gotten here? Because he lost a lot of money. It's not like this was a smart business decision. It cost him billions of dollars. Who's in his ears that he would listen to? I don't know. He ain't listening to nobody. He got some screws loose. But is John Monopoly still managing him? I have no idea. When was the last time you had any interaction with him? Last time I met him over at...

He called me down to meet him at Rick Rubin's studio. The Beastie Boys and shit. He had a place called Shangri-La in Malibu. And I remember when I got there, he was in a meeting with James Purse, the clothing guy, and we just hung out for a little bit and it was all good. What year was that? I don't remember. This is you and Kanye? Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Listen. It hurts me to lose people like that, but I don't care, man. I don't got time for that. How close were you guys? Not close. Not that close, but I don't know. But on the music side, I mean, it's obviously you appreciated his talent. Yeah. He's a beast in the studio, but that's no excuse. Look, I got my faults.

I was fucking like maniac cokehead and lost $100 million like partying and shit. That shit's not smart either. But one's a disease and one's hate. So whatever. I have a good heart. And I think all people are created equally.

And, you know, I don't care what race, creed, color, this, that you are. We all the same. We all shit brown. Like, you know, it's so funny. Like I always make this analogy, like in terms of like Middle Easterns and Israelis or whatever. I'm like, we all eat kebabs, man. Like it's all good. You know, but like,

I don't know. Here's what it is. I just got to move on. You were talking about earlier when you went to the Grammys with Paris and you guys used to date. You and Paris Hilton. Yeah. I mean... How did that happen? She came... I was living at the time on Indian Creek Island. Why I left there, I'm a fucking retard. Ivanka Trump just recently bought that house.

I, you know. Bought your house. Yeah, my old house. Okay. My old house. But after that house, I sold that house. I bought it from the founder of Southern Wine and Spirits. And then I sold it like a couple years later to move closer to disaster, which was, I was safe in Bell Harbor, like, and then I moved to Palm Island and that's where all the fucked up shit happened. So yeah, Paris came to work with me. We ended up,

dating and had a relationship and she introduced me to like paparazzi's nightlife being like the man Us Weekly fucking you know TMZ like this whole party life and wild shit like that I never experienced before because I was like in the studio night and day I was rich I had every car you can imagine but they only went from the house to the studio and back like friends would come over and like

They would go to the club and then they would come back after, but then I would ask them how it was. I think I was like nervous to even be cool at that point. And then she came along and I was cool and I got addicted to that. That was some douchebag shit on my behalf that I got so caught up in that. And it changed who I was. Like I was hanging out with like people that are just not good. Like people that think they're better than others. Like, um,

I don't want to call out names or whatever. It's too insulting. But just like Hollywood douchebags and like, you know, you are what you hang out with. And it changed me from being this like innocent, like soulful, like organic person to like

this quest for fame and this quest to like, I wasn't even like really that sprung on Paris, but I think we both used each other. I had music and she had fame and we were just like, cool. - Great connection. - Yeah. - Yeah. There was a story that came out, a video that was shown saying back in the days when Kim K was Paris Hilton's assistant. - Yeah. - Was it true? Was Kim K Paris's assistant? - Yeah, she used to sleep in my guest room.

And then some weird shit happened. I'm not going to say what happened, but, and then she made it to the, to the master bedroom. Yeah. That was that or no, it was just like, she and I were done. And like, I think we're both like had it. And we were like commiserating. What did he say? Karen's she's, she's commiserating at the house from good fellas. Uh, Karen, um,

Yeah, so, like, yeah, we ended up being a thing. Like, she was awesome, bro. She was a super cool girl. Kim was awesome. Yeah. What was awesome about her? She was organic, and she was just, like, you know, eager to, like, she wanted to, like, build her career up. She kind of followed Paris' blueprint with the foreign shit after, whatever. But at that time, she was just a cool kid, and, like, put it this way, there's a video on YouTube somewhere where

I'm pulling up in car number four Bugatti Veyron ever made.

So, like, it was the new thing. Like, people were reintroduced to Bugatti. And I pulled up with Kim Kardashian to Mansion on Washington Avenue. Yeah, 12th and Washington. Is that it? Yep, that's it. That's funny. You guys are quick. That's my car, too, behind him. That was my driver that used to carry all my drugs for me. Mercedes Maybach, I think. That was, yeah, 62. Yeah. And that's you and Kim right there. I bought one of those from Paris. Yeah, that's me and Kim. But if you listen to the audio on that, nobody knows that's Kim. They're just like, there's Scott Storch. Yeah, there's Scott Storch, yo.

In the Bugatti. If I put this clip up, I would say the captain would be first. I had the first Bugatti. Andrew Tate can thank you is what you're saying. No, I taught motherfuckers how to ball. That's Kim K? Yep. So at this point, are you guys an item or just... Yeah, obviously. Yeah. And how did Paris feel about the fact that, you know, she went...

Now, how did Paris feel? What did this do to her relationship with Kim? It didn't help. It was done already. Oh, it was done already. At that point, yeah, yeah. Got it. It was like, well, fake shit. Dude, I'm going to stop. I have so many sub stories within that that would have you like if I told them, but it's just like Kim was abused by that friendship, taunted, because she was so hot. I guess there was...

Maybe jealousy or something. Who was so hot? Kim. Kim was hot. Yeah, she was bad. Was it more physically hot or her energy, her spirit, her... Everything. Everything. Her mom was hot. Like, you know, like, she was dope, like, back in the day. Like, she just... That family, you know, they was cool. She's, like... She was at a low point, like, too. And it was, like, some guy that she was with, like, I think, like, blew her inheritance or something at that point, like, that she got. And one of her dudes, like, yeah, she, like...

She was, like, taking punches, but she said, fuck it, I'm going to go there. And she did it. And then she had the last laugh. She definitely did have the last laugh. She still laughs. How's the relationship today with you and Kim and Paris? I'm cool with everybody, man. Like, I don't know, maybe not after this interview. No, but I just recently spoke to Kim a long ago and, you know, laughed about, you know, old times and shit. Yeah, she's hella cool. She's cool.

Yeah. She's been through a lot, man. Like that marriage with that fucking retard, bro. I can imagine that takes its toll. Cause I know other people that have dated him too. One of them's Amber Rose, who's like a fucking amazing person. We call her mother cause she's such a motherly person. And, um, you know, this dude used to like make her like try and dress her and like, like a doll, like, you know, like a weirdo. I'll never forget Kanye, not to just be on dissing Kanye, but I remember he came in,

to visit me and Dr. Dre, and we're in the studio in the middle of making beats, and we were kind of interrupted, but we were like, all right, cool, whatever. And he's like, I need to take a picture with you guys. So we took a picture with him. It was cool. He left the building, drove somewhere, came back and said, my outfit wasn't right. Let me take another picture. And me and Dre looked together like, fuck, what the fuck is this shit?

He stormed out of the studio one time later, I was told. I wasn't there with Dre, and he called him the devil. He's like, you're the devil, and he ran out like. Connie called Dre the devil? Yeah. What prompted that? I don't fucking know. Making devil music for me or something. I guess he was on his holy kick at that point. You're making devil music for me with Dre. Huh.

the world's never heard these stories i'm just letting it rip today it good yeah everybody's gonna be pissed at me who cares well i mean i'm like the grumpy old man but by the way did you ever watch uh the movie straight out of compton yeah what'd you think about it it was cool it was cool i mean you know it's a hollywood movie you know a lot of the gets exaggerated a little bit i don't know can be yeah but i mean those guys like

They're forefathers of rap music and the independent record label and shit like that. There's many things about that that change the face of music. Dre is a beast. That's all I can say. Some people know how to start a record. He knows how to finish a record. There's another producer like that, Lou Bell, who does all Post Malone shit. Super talented guy. Super organized. Almost reminds me of...

What's the guy? 10 Minutes to Wapner. Rain Man. Like he's fucking Rain Man. The guy is so intense. Lou Bell. Yeah, that guy. He's another like in a different way, but like that level of that Dre's at. But knowing how to finish a record. He does like him and Andrew Watt. They do like all the Post Malone shit. He's a modern day genius. But yeah.

Weird, I got off track. Yeah, you were talking about Kanye. You were talking about Kim, Paris. You know, how that whole thing came about and pulling up in a Bugatti, the Ford One. Ralph Lauren beat me. I think the first two were not sold, but it was car number four of that. And in this whole Dre situation, you're in the studio and all this. When does Snoop come into your situation? Bro, very early. That was one of the coolest things. Tell us about Snoop.

He's awesome. He's awesome, bro. I consider myself, like, you know, a lot of people are like, yeah, I'm cool with Snoop. Me and him are pals. Like, we're cool. Like, he's always shown me love. And he's such a humble guy. I remember one time I went to his house in Claremont back in the day. And, um...

He's one of my mug shots. That's nice. What are you going to pull on a mug shot? No. He was sweeping up his own house and shit. He's just a cool guy, man. Snoop was sweeping up his own... Yeah, I remember. He was just cleaning up and shit. Good for him. What did you produce with Dre and Snoop together?

Still Dre. Yeah, the number one, I think, rap song in the history of music. And then in that time period... But I did stuff on Snoop's albums too. But look, going to these sessions and becoming part of this album that was like... I think there was a lack of where we're going with the sound before I got there. I mean, it was cool, and I got there, and all of a sudden there's this not P-Funk thing happening anymore. It's more orchestral and ominous-sounding shit.

That's when we started and went to these sessions. And I was meeting people that were blowing my mind every day. Snoop was there. This one. All these fucking amazing people were there. And I never was around famous people like that other than The Roots. It was so amazing. What was the one time when someone walked in and you're like, get out of town. This guy's here. Who was that?

all kinds of weird people i mean nobody like i'm just like maybe just like thrown off like by a certain like paulie shore would walk in the studio like just random people like who the he would like take pictures of a man there you went and then in in this time period death row records tupac had recently been killed a few years prior what was suge knight's involvement on this what stories do you have with shook my suge stories were a little later they were like seven eight years later but you know

There's good and bad in everybody, but I know that, you know, I don't know what happened because I wasn't there, like between him and Dre and all that shit. So I can only speculate. But I was living in L.A. in Ted Field's house that he was prior to me living in this area called The Summit, a really prestigious gated community. And if you know anything about L.A., you want to be in Beverly Park where Rod Stewart and all these people live in or The Summit.

The Summit in Woodland Hills? No, the Summit is in Beverly Hills. Okay. Yeah. And, like, everybody lived in there. I mean, countless people. Van Halen, all these people were in there. And I was in there, and it was like a replica of, I think it was like the Prince of Monaco's house, some crazy fucking house. And I rented it. And one day I'm, like, coming back, like maybe the third or fourth day, and

living in there, I see Suge and his son walking in. I was like, Suge lives in here. Interesting. So he noticed me and then like randomly we ended up like hanging and yeah, I mean, I don't know. It is what it is. It was a bittersweet relationship, but you know, I still got love for him. He is the guy that got Tupac out of jail and blessed us with that for the world. But you mentioned something earlier about what's my funniest Suge story.

Shog and I went to Vegas one time together and checked into the Cosmo and I was in a room under his name. He got the rooms for us. This has got to be the last 15 years because Cosmo is 15 years old. Yeah. And there's a knock at the door. Security. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? There's an unpaid minibar bill. I'm like,

What the fuck? What's going on? Obviously, I'm a fuck up at this point. I'm completely out of my mind on drugs, coke, ecstasy and fucking everything. And unpaid. I said, OK, I'll go down and pay it. This and that. They just had gots for fucking should. And I'm taken down not to the front desk to pay this mini bar bill, but I'm taken to a holding cell.

Mind you, I had like bags and when they knocked on the door, I grabbed it and put it in here. As soon as I was a fucking idiot, I was like, can I have a tissue? And I took one of the bags, put the bag in the tissue and threw it in the garbage. A cop comes running in. We got it. And I was off to jail in PC, handcuffed to a tranny for like two days. And he finally bailed me out and

Then he got arrested for, I think, throwing a bag of McDonald's out the window of my Bentley Mulsanne. And it was just the most random shit. Like, yeah, on the same train, we were like, let's get the fuck out of here, bro. And it was just one of those moments. It was such a dysfunctional moment. But, you know, we'll just say that he and I were not on our, like,

- Best level of our lives. - Scott, how did you get into the whole, like the first time you did coke, how old were you? Like when you started-- - It was the year, I think I'm 2006. - Oh, so '99, you're doing stuff with Dre, you're doing nothing for me. - Nothing my whole life. - You're clean. - I told you, I was introduced to a certain life when I fucking, I'm not blaming her. I'm just saying that life introduced me to drugs. - So first time you did it, who was it with?

Use your imagination. Oh, okay. So the first time we got together. Got it. And then from there, was it like zero to a hundred million like this? It was fucking fun. What do you mean? How quickly did you go through the a hundred million dollars? Party and the fast life, the X, the coke.

The burn rate was a couple million a month. No, I was going for a minute. I was living great. I said this recently, but I was a collector of things. Tchotchkes, whatever. You know what that is? Tchotchkes. Tchotchkes, like Swarovski, Yajos, Laudix, and this and that. Pieces of art, planes, boats, anything. I had 30 cars.

You know, whatever it is, I like was like. 30 cars. Yeah. I remember Mike Gordon, the guy that owned the Fort Lauderdale collection. He sent me home one day. He said, you have everything. Get the fuck out of here. I was like, what's that classic back there? It's a Cuda. I'll take it. And he kicked me out the door. I was like, no, I want it. I want it. And who was in your corner at this point that being like, Scott, pump the brakes? My financial guy who said I was unmanageable.

I would buy shit sometimes just to prove to myself that I was a human, that I was cool, to make up for the low self-esteem for knowing what I was doing with drugs. So you knew what you were doing was wrong, but you overcompensated with material items? Is that what you're saying? I guess, yeah. I would be fucking up for three days and feel like a piece of shit, feel like an animal. And I would order four cars, just to...

Make myself feel better. What did you buy? Anything. SLRs, Hastings, this, that, whatever was cool at the time. Murcielagos. Tell me about your upbringing, your mom and dad relationship. Who are you closer? Not really close with my parents. I mean, I love my mom. I love my dad. I just lost my dad. I kind of like grew up not understanding the dynamic of my parents' relationship. And I was always like as a kid blaming my dad because...

They broke up and like this and that. But then I realized they're both humans. My mom was nagging the shit out of them. She was like Bayside Queens. It sounded like Fran Drescher just like bitching at you all the time. Hypochondriac and just, but I love her. She's a great heart. She's like, you know what Mother's Little Helper is? The song from the Rolling Stones about Valium. 40 years of Valium, 50 years of Valium.

Does something to your brain. Wow. Yeah. And then combine that with after my dad, she was with Frank DeMeo, the famous hitman. Wait, she was with Frank DeMeo? Yeah. Like, she was like... He Frank DeMeo. No, there's Roy DeMeo. There's a bunch of them. But, like, yeah. This guy's from Sheepshead Bay, Brooklyn. And he was a hitman. His father was an underboss, Jimmy DeMeo. And there's quite a few DeMeos in the mafia world. But, like, this guy...

I remember, like, she's like, why don't you go with Frankie? And, like, you know, you bond with him. This guy was a racist fucking asshole. But, like, I remember he takes me. I'm, like, 11 or 12. He takes me to the hardware store. He wanted to get a nozzle for the hose. And he's, like, has a stack of money like this in his pocket. And he's like, $13, fuck that. And he puts it in his pants. Don't tell your mother. Then we go from there.

to uh his house he was living in our garden apartment in ferrari at the time but like he was like we got to stop by my house where he was selling coke out of or whatever and all of a sudden i hear i'm waiting in the car and he lived on a baseball field i remember seeing him chasing some guys that were probably robbing his drug spot or something in there and like firing guns at him and shit and he's like like all this crazy shit i was just like

Don't tell your mother none of this. I'm like, holy shit. Is this Roy DeMille? No. Frank DeMille. Frank DeMille. Yeah, he was like, you know his expression, a knock-around guy? A knock-around guy is like the low-level gangster guy. His father was an underboss. He was the shit. Like, he was, you know, this guy was like, um...

Again, like you could probably find shit about this guy for sure. He was involved. When my mom met him, he was like running the Tin Lizzy. It's like one of these restaurants in Fort Lauderdale and Bobby Rubino. All these guys were involved. Bobby Rubino. Bobby Rubino. The place for ribs. Yeah. These are like fucking mafia spots, bro. Really? Fuck yeah. Fucking cash cows. But so yeah, like that was like.

That was one of the reasons why I moved in with my dad. Like, because I remember like one of my first experiences of trying to make music and I was doing anything I could. These kids that were like new edition cover band. We were called the Omni Five. And it was like four brothers and me. And like, I remember he came home and it's like hot Florida day. And there's like five brothers in the living room with no shirts on. And he's like, get the fuck out of here. Your mom's in here. I'm like, so? Like, whatever. I'm like, man, fuck this. I'm going to my dad.

I moved in with my dad, and then he moved to Philly. How old were you when you lived with dad? 15. And mom didn't mind. She didn't have a problem. I mean, part of it also was she broke up with that guy, too, shortly after that. Because I was going to go back and live with her again after that, but she couldn't. She lost her alimony.

because he moved in with us in Inverary. So she moved in with her parents, who live in Lauderdale West, and there was no room for me. So I stugged it out with my dad. I didn't want to move to Philly, but I'm glad I did. Everything happens for a reason. It's all written in the stone. So you were closer to Pops. I became, you know, like I said, I wasn't thrilled with him, but he was definitely a more stable parent. His thing was the ponies. He liked the...

He liked to play. I got a new system. I've got the sheets and this and that. Look, casinos don't make money from the buffet. So was the chaos from your upbringing something that put the fire in your belly to...

keep competing at the highest levels to kind of prove value to yourself? Was it kind of like, well, when you're talking about you just bought four cars, like, you know, you're like every time I want to insecure, like, you know, it's so funny though. I'm going to come back to what you just said. Lately. My motto has been, you don't need to have a Ferrari. You be the Ferrari. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, I'm potent. When I talk to a girl, like, I feel like I don't need all that shit. I don't need this. I mean, I have things, but like, I typically don't.

I don't like even like really like that shit doesn't matter anymore to me. Name brands and shit. I'd rather wear a black T-shirt, you know. Your son's sitting to your left. The weird life you've lived. What advice are you giving him? I mean, you're open about it. So it's not like you're, you know, he knows that. He's giving me advice. What the fuck kind of shit? This kid, his work ethic is so crazy. Like he'll be working before you wake up and working when you go to sleep.

I love that. He's that dude. I love it. He absorbed this shit. Like he's an, he's another alien and such a good soul. So does it come natural to him? How it came natural to you? Did you teach him? How does that work? Yeah. Yep. He's just passionate. Like I said, anything you do is you do it for passion, not for money. And like,

You get good at it, man. Fucking money just comes from that. Like, me and him, like, we're making records together. Like, all the shit I do now, I do with my son. But by the way, what's the business model? When you say you went through $100 million, that means...

You had to make a couple hundred million dollars. What is the business model in being a producer? Because you said when he first went to Dre, he gave you $10,000, so tell him things like that, right? The publishing, the revenue streams that come from that, there's so many. There's songwriter share, neighboring rights, publishing. Can you give an example? What song that you wrote, that you produced, what gave you the, what one song gave you the most income?

These are all huge. I made some of the biggest records. Give me one of them. Like you said, off this one song, off this album, I made $6.8 million. I made the most money when I went to Florida in the mid-2000s because I was doing, it wasn't like I was splitting and making the records with a bunch of people. I was doing them by myself, all of them.

All of them. Beyonce's record's huge. Mario, Let Me Love You, Lean Back, Make It Rain. What does a Mario, Let Me Love You make you? Millions. Millions? Yeah, still. Till today, you're getting residuals, right? Yeah, there's income streams, like I said. For a publisher, for somebody like Blackstone, who's trying to buy a catalog, they're going to pay millions.

At most, for, like, these new catalogs, because they, after a while, they spike and that's it. 10X, 12X. 10X whatever in the world. My catalog, 2530X, because they know they ain't going to get it. Because, like, Trajan sold his catalog for $200 million to Warner, or Universal, excuse me. And I remember him telling me, like,

That's it. Why? Because I told him something about my catalog, and he's like, yo, you should sell it. I said, why? I thought you were supposed to give it so you have generational wealth. He's like, fuck that. I'm like, this age and this and that, and my kids aren't going to know how to do anything with this catalog and really market it. And I asked my lawyer, how old will I be to get $200 million out of this catalog? And he said...

I think he was like 130 years old. And he's like, "Fuck that, I'm gonna use this money while I'm on earth and turn it into, buy real estate, do something great with it." He was concerned that if I sell a catalog like that, I'm gonna blow it. He's like, "Are you gonna blow it? 'Cause that's it." So he said, "If you're not gonna blow it, invest it, sell it." - It's shown here that Joy's catalog was making 10 million a year annually and they bought it for 250. So if that's the case, they paid 25 X for it? - My point exactly.

What's the story about the fact that Shug bought one of your catalogs for $419,000 and some change? What is that story? I think I read that somewhere. No, that's not true. I don't believe any of that shit. Do you know which one I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was not him. He was involved in not that catalog, not the big catalog or anything, but like it was... 419,306.20. Mm-hmm. $419,306.20. That's not true.

I'm trying to see, maybe I misread this. No, it was a company called Royalty Advanced Company. It wasn't the publishing company. It was in 2000. Scott Storrs Struggling Financial Badge. Intimidation by Suge Knight. Signing to a portion of the songwriting royalties into a troubled period 2012. Yeah, no. Music royalties insulting. That's not true. No, no, no. Oh, okay. Because I remember when I talked to Vanilla Ice, Vanilla Ice told me when Suge held him over the balcony, you better sign this or else and...

You know, how much truth is that story? He's like, no, it kind of happened. You know, he took a complete different angle. Mm-hmm.

With Suge. Do you doubt that Suge would do that with his reputation? Listen, I remember one time, I'm hanging out with Reggie Calloway. I don't know if you know Reggie Calloway. You know, J. King. Reggie Calloway was, I want to be rich. He sang Casanova. You know, Reggie Calloway. He sang at my wedding. Casanova was Laverne. Yeah, of course. Yeah, he sang at the wedding. I want to be rich. But no parking on the dance floor. I think that's it. Anyways.

Jay King was with Club Nouveau. Do you remember Club Nouveau? Look at all these rumors. Yeah. Okay. So Jay becomes an insurance agent. They also did the Lean On Me. Yes, yes, yes. He did another one called Why You Treat Me So Bad. That was my favorite song from those guys. Jay King. Till today I listen to him. You know your shit, man. Why You Treat Me So Bad. Jay and I, we spent a lot of time together. So I said, Jay, you got to get into insurance. There's a lot of money. All right, man, I'll go get my license. He gets his insurance license.

Jay, you got to learn how to sell insurance. You got to put me in front of some people. He says, perfect. First person he puts me in front of is Suge Knight. That's crazy. This guy's not going to get approval for life insurance, Jay. I got to tell you a funny story about the insurance. He brought you to Suge Knight. He brought Jay King, introduced me to Suge Knight. I think Jay can correct me on this. He'll call me. It was at the Four Seasons Beverly Hills.

Or one of the... Burton Way. Yeah, I don't know which one it was. He used to love to hang there. Yeah. That was Shook's spot. What was that interaction like? Listen, I've had...

a handful of interactions with him. Minus when he calls me from prison, he says, yo, just so you know, P, you need to know this, the hook fucks with you. This is what Shook said. I'm like, I want to do a podcast with you, man. I'm like, all right, cool, let's do it. And then we did a nice little... There's a very loving side of him. Very interesting side. I had a Thanksgiving with him one time. It's a complex character in the movie that you can't quite figure out. That's basically him. But you were saying about insurance? I'll tell you some funny shit.

And like when I lived on Palm Island, no, I was living on Los Olos at the time. I hired a caterer last minute. I was like, I need fucking 30 people catering this and that. This guy named Seth Cohen is the caterer who's serving drinks at my thing. And like, I'm on top of the world. Go flash forward to like my fall experience.

They reach out to me. This guy, Seth Cohen, he's like, by the way, I'm rich as fuck now. Like, and I want to hire you to make some music for my, it was Brad Cohen, actually his brother that wanted me to make music for his wife and his kids or whatever the hell it was and put some money in my pocket. This guy went from being my caterer to being a member of the alfalfa club to being like insurance care direct. Is this guy? No, that's the lawyer. Insurance care direct type and insurance care direct. Mm hmm.

Go to Images Rap. Brad and Seth. These guys.

blew the fuck up from an office that was smaller than half the size of this room, bro, and just sweated that shit out. And now they're buying up all the crown jewels of fucking Fort Lauderdale, the Anheuser-Busch house. There's one by one, they're just buying them all. Good for these guys. Yeah, they fucking crushed them. I mean, look. Now Seth is like doing AI insurance sales. He's like, before anybody could even think of it, he's got the patent on it. It's a lot of money in insurance. Bro, he's doing...

Yeah. Imagine AI insurance. He played me both sides of an AI call of insurance. It was way better than a human.

Like, you know, you ask this thing and it's going to answer you the right information, concise, clear, at the right tempo, aesthetically pleasing to the ear. Like, I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, your whole, like, workforce is, like, going to be, like, gone. It's going to change. The call center's gone with AI. By the way, increase your 80%, like, 80%.

Oh, the game has changed. And insurance, there's a lot of money in it. Scott, did you ever do anything with Mariah Carey or no? Yes, that was my homegirl. How was she? She's awesome, bro. First of all, we made a song called Side Effects about Tommy Mottola. That was like... And I've worked with her with Jadakiss. I did a song, K-I-S-S-E. Yeah, we did that. But Mariah used to call me and do like...

crank calls and like do um jerky boys impressions yes this is me kiss or saul rosenberg saul rosenberg funny as hell she's awesome bro she's the diva saul rosenberg what was the difference between working with someone like her versus someone like beyonce both beautiful both talented i mean they're both different you know one is mariah carey's voice more country and like more hood

And then, like, just, like, real... She's a diva. Like, that's Park Avenue right there. But let me tell you, though, Mariah Carey's voice is truly something else. Insane. Honestly, like, you got...

If we ran a poll right now, what's the greatest voice of all time? You would hear Whitney Houston. Yeah. You would hear Freddie Mercury. Elvis is probably going to be on that list. Steve. Steve Perry is going to be on that list, right? You're going to have. I think Lou Graham from Foreigner as well. Oh, my God. I want to know what love is. Yeah. I mean, those guys, 80s for sure. Daryl Hall. You have to. All in all, it's going to get me started.

I'm looking at this list. Mariah's a beast, bro. You have to put Mariah on it. By the way, Lady Gaga's got a voice as well. But Mariah Carey's voice. Oh, Mario has one of the greatest voices. Christina Aguilera. Nah, I got a funny thing. She made a song, by the way, called Fuck You, Scott Storch. Did she? Yeah, I'll tell you why. I can tell you that's a funny fucking story. Irving Azoff.

Fucking special. Is there any chance I can take a five second cigarette break and we'll come back and talk about Irving fucking, they call the poison dwarf in the, you ever see that book hit men is about like all the like early, like, um, people in music, like, like the, like the serious, like moguls. Oh yeah. You see that.

He's one of them.

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I'll explain that song when I get back after this advertisement. Five-minute break. Hey, what's going on? I'm Scott Storch, and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast, and you might have some questions you want to ask me. I'm available on the Minette app, and you can ask me about pretty much anything, music, industry stuff, my life and my history, or anything, technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques. Check it out, Minette.

Mariah Carey is what we were talking about. You were telling the fact that Christina Aguilera wrote a song called F-U-S-S, and I think it means, does it mean what I think it means? Fuck you, Scott Storch. All right. So tell us how this happened. How did this happen? Okay. I aligned forces with her to make the Stripped album, which sold a ridiculous amount of copies. And I did like the bulk of the album. And then Linda Perry did some from Four Non Blondes.

I don't know if you know that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mic a little closer. Can I say yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that song. What's going on? She wrote a bunch. Yeah. Better? That's really cool. There you go. So, yeah, and that album, we killed it. Irving Azoff being her manager, guy who started like giant records and went on to own Live Nation. And he's like, but, you know, there's a famous book called

called hit men this guy yeah that he's referred to as the poison dwarf and his that name is like accurate how tall is for this fucking guy he's one of them guys like i don't really dog anybody out i mean so like kanye was like i'm pissed at him for that but like i'm really like i don't really have anything bad to say about anybody um i do with this guy so when i when i went to do the poison dwarf

That's a pretty solid ball. Due to his small stature and aggressive, even controversial business. If he's what Kanye's talking about, all right, fine, I get it. No, that's fucked up. That's really fucked up. But at any rate, this guy, when I went to do this record, they gave me in advance, I think it was like a quarter million, which is a very fair price for me considering my price tag was 80 per song. I ended up doing seven songs on the album and I think two interludes as well.

Um, the record went crazy. It was her biggest album. Oh, you know, most of the ones or half of the songs I did were became hit singles. At any rate. Now it's like I was living in LA at that time. Now I'm living in Florida. So they called to do the next album. And I was like, you know what? In the spirit of good business, I don't want any increase. Just give me the same thing. My manager calls me at the time. Derek Jackson says, Scott,

This guy said, you are lucky to work with her and be involved in such a big album. Not that I helped make the big album and shape and sound like I'm like the core and the nucleus of what it was. But he said, he's not giving you any advance. You just come to work and you're lucky you have the opportunity. I said, whoa, I don't believe this. I was like, you call him and talk about this stuff. I want to be listening in. So,

I'm listening in, and he's, like, going on and on. Like, yeah, Scott's lucky to be involved with a singer like Christina and this and that. And, like, fuck Scott. And, you know, he's just trying to, like, play tough guy with me. I'm over what? Like, peanuts. Like, 250. What the fuck is that? You're going to blow. You just sold 19 million copies of this shit. And, like, whatever. I get my royalties. That's one. But the actual recoupable producer advance.

He was trying to like, you know, be a goalie with it. And I was like, okay, so I'm listening and listening. At one point he's like, fuck Scott. And it's not. So I was like, yo motherfucker, I'm on the phone by the way. And he's like, I was like, here's the deal.

I need two million to do the album now or I'm not doing it. And you need to send fucking NetJet with a fucking, I think it was at the time, a G4. And like, I need the Clive Davis bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel. And I need a per diem every day of a thousand for food on top of all this. I was just like, fuck you. OK, me and Christina were really close. Clive, I have Clive stories too.

This is like the fucking... You ever see the show, what is it, The Blacklist? It was about the guy, what was that guy? But anyway, he's just like, yeah. And every episode, he's going after somebody else. At any rate, this is like The Blacklist today. At any rate, so Christina found out about this and this and that, and she was just like...

fuck Scott, this and that. I'm going to make the album without him. She and I were on the bordering of the romantic side of things. It was just a lot of crazy shit. This guy got between our relationship creatively and friendship-wise and turned us against each other, basically. He's a real fucking shitbag. What's he doing now? He's not in Live Nation anymore. I don't know what the fuck he's doing. But

I remember his daughter was like the assistant on the album. She was cool, Allison. So that was the end of it, would you? So, yeah. So then the album comes out and it didn't go platinum. It went wood. That shit was like a disaster. She went from like 18 million copies to like two. It was fucking crazy. Yeah, man. And then she fell off the map. Yeah, but there was included in that a song called Fuck You, Scott Storch.

What's the lyrics? Can you go to it? I want to know what she says in that. I mean, she basically lists all the songs in a lyric book that we did. I thought I knew who you were. I see how you learned. It was on a bridge. Now I was the first to believe I made you part of music dream and your thanks to me came without an apology. We wrote loving for me. Don't walk away. Can't hold us down.

Now, this sounds like you guys have an intimate relationship. It sounds like a score. We used to lay down together at night. It wasn't really that physical or anything, but we became those friends that are teetering on. Like dry humpback and stuff. Yeah, I don't know, whatever the fuck it was. But I don't know, she was into some weird shit. When we met and were making this album, a lot of this music was inspired by, she was

with this guy named, I think his name was George. He was like one of the dancers and he was gay and she wanted him to be straight. And it was just like a fucking weird. - It's hard to turn that thing around. - Yeah, like I think she was like one of those people that like tried to turn gay people. - Dated her back up. - She wanted a challenge. - Scott, this brings up a very good question. You know, Pat always talks about if you're building a championship team, right? Who's the most important piece? Is it the GM? Is it the coach? Is it the star players at the front office, right?

If you're making a hit record, you have the producer, you have the artist, right? The singer, the rapper, what have you. You have the record label. Here's why. You have the marketing team. There's a gray area. I know what you're saying. Yeah. The role of the producer who really is the guy that puts the shit together has changed. The definition of that word has changed. Now the producer is some guy who makes a fucking beat and sends it on a CD. Back in the day, the producer, like me, is the guy that sees the whole thing through and makes sure that...

you have the right writer. You have the right conviction and emotion coming out of the vocals. You have the guys finishing it, the guy, and he's just a real producer. Like back in the day, George Martin was the producer of the Beatles, but he wasn't really making the music. He was just guiding them and like putting that special sauce on it of these songs that they did. So it's like, it's a different thing, but ultimately the most vital piece of music

An artist or like, you know, what's behind the artist? A is the artist themselves. The manager, I think the producer for sure, because he's like creating this, you know, setting the tone. And then the guys at the label that know how to like sell it. You know what I mean? They know how to sell it. Yeah. They know how to put it in the right places. Right.

Scott, Diddy parties, all the stuff that Diddy's going through, did you have a close relationship? You were in DePalm, so you're in Miami. He's down here. What was your relationship with Diddy? He was on Star. I was on Palm. And we were cool. We were like comrades, so to speak, real cool. I was invited to all the parties and this and that. But I wasn't staying late at those parties because I would leave for my parties, which were, you know,

potent as well but I wasn't like there was no like swinger shit or fucking you didn't have swinger stuff no I don't I'm the only dick in the room I don't like I'm not into that weird shit like I don't want to like have no part of that but there was some bad bitches in my house and you know excessive everything and you know I remember like you know my house was more like the Wolf of Wall Street type vibes it was like I don't know

There was no weird shit going on, but I didn't really see any weird shit at Diddy's because it was just, to me, it seemed like everybody was having a great time and he was the provider of an amazing event that everybody wanted to get into and like all the time and spared no expense with fireworks and all kinds of shit. And all the A-list people, I was one of the few people who was allowed to go in the house. And during one of these parties, most people are just like left outside. Huge people. Whose house is that, Rob?

That was mine. Oh, that's your house? Yeah. That's nice. Yeah, I was the first buyer of that. It's called the Villa Ferrari. A bunch of builders got into a fight, and I had to finish the house. At any rate, oh, yeah.

So at these Diddy parties, you get invited into the house. Not many people get into the house. Yeah, but again, I was there at a time when there was nothing even remotely. So when you hear these stories, you're like, what? Like, I was the weirdest guy in the party. I felt like I was the biggest fucking, like, piece of shit in the party. Because I was in the fucking hiding in the media room doing, like, coke and stuff. You know what I mean? And I remember Diddy looking at me, and he's like, what does that stuff make you feel like? And it was me and another famous producer in there, and we were, like, trying to explain it to him. But I guess over time, like...

He was probably introduced, I don't know for sure, but he kept things around for people that wanted it. But at this time, you're saying that Diddy didn't even know what coke was. He wasn't doing any drugs. He was joking around with us, but he was kind of looking at us like, what does that shit make y'all feel like? And this and that. It was just like, he was like this innocent type vibe. Meaning he didn't do drugs, right?

I think he was doing like probably ecstasy and Molly. That was more socially acceptable at that time. Even though later we learned that leaves like holes on your brain and like robs you of your serotonin and shit like that. But look, here's my take on the Diddy thing. Forget about the parties. Who Diddy is, who they're trying to make him out to be. I said this just recently. I'll say it again. There's no excuse for,

To hit a woman. I've never put my hands on a woman my whole life unless I was smacking her on the ass while I'm fucking her. All right? I've never gotten to that stage where I'll just walk away. Like, I'm not going to get into a fight with you. Like, you're not going to. Like, I've had girls that got violent with me. Like, I'm like, no. Goodbye. See ya. I'm not part of that. So who knows what the hell was going on during that. So there's no excuse for that. To me, it looks like motherfuckers were up for like three days.

doing some fucked up drug, and it was like not who he is, is now this like drugged up dopamine version of what Diddy is, and like that shit somehow happened. I don't think he's somebody who just beats women up. He's not like Jake LaMotta or some shit like that. Whatever the case is, he, that was that. As far as them saying to him like that, he's a sex trafficker. To me, sex trafficking is selling pussy, right?

I think if anything, he was like buying it and like just having girls on deck and putting them on a fucking Gulf stream and going over state lines. That's not cool. Like just call somebody like a, a sex trafficker, like whatever the fuck. Nobody was having a problem with eating caviar with him and taking his money. Like, so I don't think that's fair. I think that Rico, you gotta have more than one name there. I just think that if you try and go up against liquor, oil, um,

You know, like, all the, you know, firearms, tobacco, all these things. Like, you're going to have some fucking problems. That's the real fucking Illuminati. And he went up against Diageo and said, I could do my own Serac. And, like, they were like, oh, yeah? They dropped a bomb on his ass. The crime doesn't fit the punishment with him. I still have my pictures up of Diddy on my Instagram. Now...

Disappointed? Yeah, that he put his hands on a woman. I'll forgive. If I find out that he did something to a little kid or did some pedophile shit, which I don't think they're going to find because I don't think that's who he is. I don't get that from him. Whatever picture they're trying to paint from him is this devious guy. I mean, whatever. He's gangsta for sure. He's definitely like he's from New York. He's not a pussy. Is he a homosexual? Bisexual? Everybody's trying to push that.

Is he a cuck? Which is like watching other... I wasn't in the room. I do know I felt like at one point he tried to flirt with me and shit, and I was like, I'm good on that type of shit. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

What do you mean he tried to flirt with you? I'm just going to leave it simple like that. That's a pretty bold statement, Scott. Bro, I'm going to say it. It is what it is. He's my homie, man. But there was never any bad beef? No, man. Nothing but love. When you hear the stories about Usher came to his house for Diddy Flavor Camp and then Justin Bieber showed up.

Any rumors in that? Any truth to that? No, fuck that, man. Everybody wanted to be around him. He's the fucking flyest dude. Like, he made the shit look good. He's in Tommy Mottola's house, which is the sickest shit that he bought, like, on Star Island. Like, sick. Like, you know, like, Justin was at fucking Molly Maul's house. You know Molly Maul?

The guy, he was like, that was like, because he provided a different kind of thing. Like, he was in Vegas in, I think, Neil Sedaka or somebody's crib. Neil Sedaka? Some weird guy's crib. I don't know who it was. And he had, he was a pimp. You know what I'm saying? And he had all these broads around. He had a studio. And he had, like, cool people. He had Pooh Bear around. And,

that was a fun environment like you know what i'm saying what can i say like and people wanted to be there too bieber wanted to be there nobody was taking advantage of people bieber knew what the he was doing he was trying to hang out that's it that's all i think the beebs right there so diddy um that picture up there on the left with paris me and uh kim and diddy they were like yeah they're at one of diddy's white parties

That wasn't even Diddy's White Party. We were in San Tropez at the Biblo's Hotel in the pool or something. We were just at a white party, and it was mad people there. We were just hanging out. Everybody dresses like that in San Tropez. Look to the left a little bit. No. The left picture. Oh, who's that? Was that Kanye right there? That's your best friend right there. Oh, my boy, man. Got you. DMX, did you ever, did you and DMX do anything or no? Yeah, we did.

He was one of my favorites. I mean, I can't name him. He was one of my closest friends. God rest his soul. Earl. I tried to save his life. It was like the blind leading the blind, though. Like, he was on crack, I'm on cocaine. Different things. One of them was a faster suicide. But there was a point. I'm going to tell you two DMX stories. Or three, actually. DMX, I got him out of having to, like, go to prison. And I told him to go to a rehab center.

And like it's called Recovery First right across the street from the Hard Rock. He goes, I get him in. It was court ordered and calls me like three days later. Yo, Scott, I'm at the Hard Rock. I had to fuck the nurse. I'm like, what the fuck, bro? I was like, they're not going to take you back. This is not like G&G Holistic or some shit. And he's like, oh, man, what the fuck? I call the guy, the owner, and I'm like, yo, can you please let him out? Nope.

Three days later, I had him come back to my house. Three days later, I went to Mondrian. My security calls me and says, X has 50 federal agents surrounding your house right now. They're handcuffing him, and he's smoking crack while they're handcuffing him, like with the handcuffs on, getting his last hit and shit. Some crazy shit. So before that, I remember him staying at my house. One of the funniest stories is I had this fucking party. Everybody was there from Snoop, this one, that one.

And at like 7.30 in the morning, the party's fizzled out. It's like Mike Epps, me, Snoop, a couple other people were chilling in my house in Palm. I get a knock at the door, and it was Pamela Anderson. And I was like, wow, this is cool. Even though that was actually one of my friends, Rick Solomon's wife or whatever. But I never met her. I thought it was so cool. It was like 07, 08, whatever.

And it was like a, I think it was like a Super Bowl party I had. It was just like 600 people or something in the party. And to make a long story short, I was so geeked out of my mind. X was upstairs in one of the bedrooms, and I was like, yo, X, yo, X, yo, you got to see this. He comes out, and he looks over at the banister, and he says, Baywatch. And he just walked back in. Said one word, Baywatch. Baywatch. And just walked away. But...

Last one is the saddest story I have with X. He and I made some great, we did a video at my Indian Creek, by the way, it's called Give Them What They Want, at my Indian Creek property. We did a video. It was pretty cool. But that is not the story. The story is this. You'll be able to see that as my brother after I tell you the story and watch that video. But hold up. Steve LaBelle, my manager, one of my most recent managers. We working. We working. Very cool guy.

He and I owned a rehab center together in L.A. Studio City. It's called the Heavenly Center, THC. Get out of here. Yeah, and we were like, it was very difficult to be able to get insurance companies to cover this shit because of the weed thing and this and that, whatever. So we kind of like dumbed it down. We were like, we are weed tolerant. We're not supplying the weed, you know, that type of thing, whatever. California sober, whatever the fuck it is.

X is now on his last legs with emphysema. He's one hit a crack away from dying. So we put up the bread, this guy Frank, Sid, me and Steve, we put him on a private jet to Washington to detox. He goes, we convinced him to do it. He goes through the whole detox program and he's supposed to get on the runway and go back on that same plane and go inpatient at the Heavenly Center. He never got on that plane.

And a few weeks later, he was dead. Wow. I really tried to save his life. I really love that guy. I had his whole family staying at my house. It was kind of fucked up, though. Like, you know, mind you, I'm a cocaine addict at the time. And, like, he was in there, like, trying to, like, use my coke to make crackless and shit. It was just fucking nuts. Like, I don't give a fuck. I don't know if I look like a maniac by telling these stories. It's the truth. It was like the blind leading the blind. Can you imagine, like, man, you really need to get your shit together. It was...

What the fuck? Man, you got to clean that thing up, bro. Yeah, man. You got to stop getting rid of that shit. What was he like off camera? I mean, everyone says that if there's one performer that just has the grit, the grime, the hustle, the flow, like he was that guy. He was the fucking man. Fucking...

debuted platinum 10 times in a row. Yeah, rough ride. He was shitting on the game. Did you ever see that fucking one, I forget what festival it was. It was like this massive, it was like Lollapalooza. Lollapalooza in Chicago? Bro, like...

This dude was a beast. He was like, he was really everything that those records were exuding was him. When you hear that, dun, dun, dun. Yeah, it never gets old. It's one of those. By the way, did you see Will Smith's latest song? They call it the worst song. Have you heard of it? No, I haven't. Okay. Will Smith came out with a song. They just went after him talking about Fat Joe had a, who was the guy that was with Fat Joe back in the days?

Big Pun? It was with Big Pun. He had this song. This one's dedicated to the ones who never made it. I hate it. The fact you faded away. You were the greatest. Who is that? No, it's not Pun. It's the other guy. Tony Sunshine? No, keep going. You'll see. I say this prayer to never respect you, but to... Part of the Terror Squad? Oh, my God. What is this guy's name? It's such a great... Not Nori.

I'll figure out who it is. Tony Sunshine. Someone's going to watch this and they're going to comment below. We'll find out who it is. Did you ever do anything with Fat Joe? What? I made some of the biggest records for Fat Joe possible. I did Lean Back. I did Make It Rain. I did a lot of shit with Joe. Joe changed the face of my career too because I was not putting a tag on my records. I was not like...

Produced by Scott Storch. Shit like that. But I'm doing every fucking song in the world and like Leanback comes and he's like, Scott Storch. Yeah. Bro. Cheese lines outside my door. That's what he said in the video. Cheese lines. Cheese lines outside a door. Yeah. That's what he said. So you guys were close. You guys. Yeah. Where do you put him? Where do you put him on the list? He's dope. I mean, he's dope. It's kind of like.

unfair that he's not looked at as even bigger than he is. I mean, people respect him, but being a Latino rapper at some point, it was like a handicap in itself. It didn't matter how fucking dope you were because motherfuckers were just like... There's a lot of fucking weird things about the music business, you know?

So Fat Joe, I don't know your relationship with him these days, but there's a lot of hip-hop beef. Obviously it started with Tupac and Biggie and everything and then Nas, Jay-Z. He's big as a personality now. Yeah.

When you have an opinion, sometimes people like... Well, 50 Cent, I think. Him and him. Who does he have beef with? He used to. All his flyers have been put out. Really? It was Hov and 50. Now he's cool with all of them. What's your take on just hip-hop beef in general? I mean, the biggest beef of the last year was Kendrick and Drake. Is this manufactured? Is this real? This is fucking WWF. You know what I'm saying?

But like, put it this way. There was, I forget who it was, that was telling me like, yo, 50's coming at me on some shit. Like he's like really fucking like tearing me up. And apparently 50 called you and was like, oh. Because no, he called, he got in touch with me. He was like, why are you doing this to me? He's like, I'm trying to throw you a bone, bro. I'm trying to get you some shine. 50's saying this to you? No, to this person. Oh, gotcha. That's the story I heard. I don't know for sure. Like that he was like dissing somebody and the person that he was dissing

called um fifth like why are you doing this he's like bro i'm trying to help you like any publicity is good publicity like i'm giving you a shot like you know what i'm saying like that's what these beefs a lot of morale now there's legitimate beefs obviously what do you think is the most legitimate beef i think like little wayne and birdman had some court stuff going on suing what's the realest beef i mean yeah i mean like that's a label artist beef that's not like rapper to rapper beef even though the label was a rapper

Berman. That's family. That's like a father and son. I did a song for these two, for Wayne and Berman, called You Ain't No. I'm actually in the video playing piano. It was like we were dressed up like gangsters and shit. Cuban Link is who I was talking about. Do you remember Cuban Link? Oh, yeah, Cuban Link. Oh, yeah, they had beef. That didn't end right. It wasn't? No, that was some problems there.

But somebody else recently just tried to fuck with Joe and take advantage of him. Somebody that was a hype man for him claimed to be the writer on songs and shit and tried to sue Joe. You said Tommy Mottola earlier. Did you have a relationship with Tommy? That's funny. That house that Diddy lives in, I was there to visit Tommy at one point. He's a legend. The first time I met Tommy, Sony Music Studios in New York.

I was like a little kid in the roots. I didn't know what the fuck I was doing. I walked into the wrong lounge. And it was him talking to some Asian guy that probably owned Sony or whatever. And he gave me the dirtiest look, like he was about to fucking bite my ear off. I was like, oh, shit. Then later down the road, he invited me to come to that house when he first bought it. And he was with Talia. This was right after... She's great. She's great. And the same...

party place at the edge of that property on Star Island that's like a temple kind of gazebo kind of thing, whatever. It wasn't like that. It was an office outside. And it looked like something that Sosa from fucking Scarface would have. And he's at this sick-ass, probably $300,000 table with a home phone. And it's like outside. This whole office is set up outside. And he's doing his thing out there with a cigar, showing me his cars and shit. But whatever. That's how I'm told it.

Legend. He made a lot of money. For a lot of people. Yeah, and for himself. Yeah, for sure. At the hands of Sony. Like, there was like, you know, people like made like, I mean, if I'm really going to talk, like, motherfuckers like, they found a way to take budgets down, these guys. Like, I'm just being real. Like, everybody knows this shit. He had a partner, Corey Rooney, that was producing music.

There's a crazy story. I'm glad I mentioned that. Okay, I have to go there. If we're on the fucking blacklist today. Go for it. All right. So, yeah, like these guys, they would charge, they would get all the shit. Like they would eat up all the budgets of like the quarterly like budget that they would get. You know, Sony, Columbia, this, that, the other. One day...

I had a house on Pine Tree Drive that I made into a studio. Miami Beach. Yeah, 63rd and Pine Tree. I had two studios in there. I had the board from Saturday Night Live, the SSL, or Neve, whatever it was. And I get a call from this guy, Kenny Commissar, who's a big record executive. And he's like, J-Lo wants to come over. I'm like, amazing, I want to work with her. Like, cool, amazing, this is dope. So J-Lo comes over, but now...

It's like damn near a hurricane going on. Power goes out. So I'm like, oh yeah, I got this new car. It was like the first one in America. I had the Phantom. And I was like, let's listen to music in my Phantom. Pouring rain.

She's loving every fucking thing I'm playing. She's like, that's the shit. I remember her hand on my leg and I was like, oh fuck, J-Lo was sitting in my passenger seat loving my fucking music. I'm a little fucking Jewish white boy from fucking Sunrise and shit. What the fuck? Nob Hill and shit. At any rate, I could hear a knock

On my window, I'm like, what the fuck? Candy's like, Jennifer, we got to go. I'm like, what do you mean we got to go? What the fuck are you talking about? You brought her here. She's like, no, we got to go right now. 15 minutes later, I got a call from them. I'm like, my bro, I'm so sorry. They told me I was fired if I didn't get her out of there. You want to know why? Because there's only so many songs in the budget on these albums, and I was taking away real estate.

In that little game that these guys had going on that took Sony out 200 and changed a million. I'm laying some secrets out for y'all today, bro. This is all real talk. But yeah, I was like, man, that's fucked up, bro. I was like so hurt by that shit. That shit was supposed to go to Tommy and Corey. And I was not getting it. Fuck that. Scott's not getting in her ear. Real talk. That was one of my fucking like realizations that...

There's so much bullshit in fucking every industry. There's a hustle to every facet. I mean, this cup right here probably has 10 hustles to the business behind it. Business.

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He was like the only person who would call me and be like, I made money for all these people, and they just walked away and said, Scott's a piece of shit. He's like, yo, bro, are you all right? I wasn't. I was like, yeah, I'll be all right. You know what I mean? Addiction's a motherfucker. Nobody cared, bro. I bought all my homies Bentleys out of love because I wanted them to be like me. They all disappeared when the party was over. But that's a gift, too, because you get to see who your real friends are.

And those two, three people that were left standing there making sure I was cool. Busta was one of them people that, I mean, we weren't that close, but he's also my first client when I left The Roots that believed in me. He was my very first client that hired me. I remember we were like going up and down like fucking all the labels in New York. Took this trip from Philly to New York and trying to play music for A&Rs. First one to bite was Busta.

But yeah, he's the only person that really fucking called and was like, bro, are you all right, man? Nobody gave a shit. Out of everybody in the industry, when you were going through your worst of your worst and you were dealing with the recovery, the only person that reached out was Busta? There was nobody else? Joe, somewhat. That Joe? Yeah, he never like... I mean, I didn't get the call, but I mean, I knew he cared. Do you think that's...

Because of you and your reputation or is that just a business? It's all fake. It's all a facade. You ain't really friends. If you ain't hot, you ain't hot. I remember Diddy telling me, when we were talking about what's your secret, because you have all the success, and he said, I run to the light.

And what he meant by that is, like, whoever's hot, he's going up near that shit. Like, whoever's fucking blowing up at the time, you're going to see that motherfucker near. Wow. He's like, I run to the light. What a thing to say. I run to the light. Is that right after he flirted with you? Or that's a different situation? It's like, I run to the light. Interesting. Trying to see what he's talking about. So it just means light skin? You know what's crazy? That dude's ears are golden. He's got golden ears, man. I know people like...

would use his ears and to see if some shit was legit or see if that was the single to help pick the one out of the bunch that's the one. He would use Diddy for that shit. Jimmy Iovine, all the biggest. They'd be like, yo, what do you think of this? He knew. He knew. It wasn't accidental that he rose to the top. No. He had an ear for it. Yeah. Was he hands-on as a producer? No. That wasn't his thing. You ever seen the video when...

He's on a call and he gets what he wants and he says, I get everything. Have you ever seen that video? Of course. Is that pretty much him? I'm a savage. Does that describe him? I don't know. It looks like too much coffee.

This one right here. You know what it reminds me of? Pause it. What was the... Yeah, yeah. At the end of... Yeah, I know. Tropic Thunder? Tropic Thunder is what I'm thinking. No. At the end of Vacation, the movie, like, they had Sid Caesar, and he won the fucking... I win. I'm going to win the money. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. With Chevy Chase? Go ahead, Rob. For, like, the weekend of the 14th when the soundtrack comes out? If so, bump somebody. All right, thanks. All right, love you, man.

I got my MTV out. Savage! I'm a savage! It's whatever I want to get! Whatever I want, I have to get! It's like Sterling. What's next? What's next? Watch this. Yes! What's next? What's next? I gotta get it. I'm not gonna stay fucking down. I'm not gonna stay fucking lying down. I'm not. I can't do that, man. I can't do that. What's next? Give me something else. What can't you do? I can do it. I can do anything.

Wow. Can't stop, won't stop. The power of suggestion. So he ran to the light. Power of auto-suggestion. Dude, there's dudes that, like, I'm not saying any names, that just are able to capture your attention by screaming and, like, really not being part of the creative process of the music and just, like, selling you on that shit. Did you ever do anything with, what is that one guy's name who...

Connie had issues with and he ended up I think he's the head of YouTube right now. What is the guy's name? Rick Rubin? Not Rick Rubin. No, no. Lior Cohen? Yeah, Lior Cohen. Lior's the man. Lior started like he was one of the founders of Def Jam. Yeah. Him and Russell Simmons. What made him special? Was he a boss boss? Was he a numbers guy? Was he a negotiation guy? Was he a tough guy? He was smart in business. He was a tough guy but like he would think outside the box and

You know, they figured out a formula how to sell records. Did you spend some time with him? He used to borrow my boat. He used to come over and bring me Joe Stonecraft of Indian Creek Island. And Scott, let me borrow your boat. No problem. Anytime. Captain's there. He was a cool guy. Good dude? Yeah. He was a beast.

He's got some interesting nicknames. The other guy had nicknames. This guy's got it as well. Culture Vulture. I don't know what they call them. It was a weird lawsuit. I'm trying to remember. TVT, Steve Gottlieb. And it was like a big lawsuit. Yeah, it was.

$130 million. I heard some story about him dancing on his desk after something like that lawsuit. Okay, so he's got a little bit of Diddy in him.

Is that what it is? See if he dances. You want to think about what that guy is? It's like the Beastie Boys and shit like that. Early fucking cutting edge people. Was that Tribe Called Quest? There was no hip hop mainstream shit before these kind of guys. There was also Joe and Phil Niccolo, Rough House Records. They had Cypress Hill, Criss Cross. Make it jump, jump. So Scott, these days...

I mean, you said famously that the coach lasts longer than the players. That's actually a Steve LaBelle, we working, original, but I've adopted it. Snoop's still relevant, right? Jay-Z's still relevant. Snoop? There's hot guys these days. Obviously, Drake's doing his thing. Relevant with what, though? Snoop is famous. Relevant as active? I don't know if I would... Meaning he's still around. Listen, these people have made such amazing...

amount of music of such high quality and like some of the beats like you'll notice like Snoop picks the greatest fucking beats man he's like but like he don't have to do jack shit there's a lot of like me personally like if anybody's oh he's watching I don't have to do another beat for the rest of my life I've still done more than everybody else they'll never catch up

You know what I'm saying? Like, it doesn't matter. And my, like, name and my legacy is, like, even though I don't like to rest on my laurels and I'm still making shit because the passion is still there. I lost it for a while. It was back. And my son doing music, like, yeah, I'll still do it. But quietly, I'm making some fucking fire shit. What do you think about music these days? Like, who do you think is going to last a test of time? So is it amigos? Is it?

Travis Scott. Who do you actually respect that are more artistic than others? Baby, Lil Baby. Who do you got out there? One of my favorite people is this guy named Russ. Oh, he's a stud. I made a lot of songs with him. I did Wife You Up with him. He doesn't depend on the radio. He doesn't care what anybody thinks about him. He fills arenas all day long. What's special about him? He believes in what he's saying and he like...

I can tell you something. It's just so organic. I remember having a conversation with him about going on the road and some of these amazing places that he would get to travel to in Europe. Fucking amazing places. And he's like, I'm not going to bring something broad with me. I'm going to bring my mom. And he would bring his mom to these great places. And he was so excited to give back to her. Do it for him.

Good for him. He's as real as he gets, man. He must have had a great mom. They hate him. So many people in these... There's a lot of people. He gets haters. There's jealousy. What do they hate him for? Having an opinion that actually he stands behind. When that makes sense. I don't know. Who else would you put in that category these days? There's some good artists. Very few. You don't seem too...

thrilled with the current state of hip-hop. Is that fair? I'm going to take it a step further. Okay, go. We got now. We have when I was and then before me. I listened to some of the shit before me. That was like Earth, Wind & Fire, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Al Green, Led Zeppelin, some of these amazing... Man, I didn't do nothing good. My shit is alright. This shit is whacked. Shit is horrible right now. Honestly, it's horrible. It's trash.

I still feel like I didn't, like, I made some pretty impressive shit, I think, but it still is nothing compared to the amount of integrity that went into, like, some of the shit before me. Now, every generation says that the generation before that, you know, they don't get it, they don't give it the times. Is it a generation thing, or is it just straight up, listen to my ears, it ain't, it ain't. You ever see the movie Idiocracy? Mm-hmm. That's it. People are dumb. Yeah.

They have gotten, so because it's so easy to become a music producer, anybody can go to Guitar Center now, and it's so cheap. Before, we had to have reel-to-reel tape recorders that were like $200 a tape to store two songs on. Wow. Now you can store 1,000 songs on a little disc that costs you $40. You know what I mean? So anybody can do it. Everybody has a voice. Anybody can be seen. So the quality just got lower and lower, and the bar was set lower and lower and lower and lower.

You'll find some guys that are sort of good, like the artists, the better ones, like the Travis Scotts, the Trippie Reds, this and that. Scott, you ever met Trump? I did. I just had lunch with him. How was that? He's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah, Trump's a cool guy. I think a very misunderstood guy. Everybody's like, nobody's perfect. Take your poison. But I think he definitely has a plan, and even though it looks...

like he's doing like causing riots and shit like that there is like the better good of our our country you know what i mean like nobody thinks it's bittersweet you know what i mean ultimately he's protecting us but it's like you think about you know poor families that people are getting like deported and shit like that that's the fucked up part but sometimes in order to do something there's sacrifices that have to take place in order to the the overall goal which is to protect us

And, you know, I mean, in politics, it's not my forte, so I can't really like articulate as much. But I just am saying based on what I see, I think he's actually driven to protect our country. Do you think behind the scenes, other musicians, even you were in a room with all these guys.

If you did a poll of 100 of the guys you worked with, do you think they're pro-Trump? Do you think they're still Democrat Party? Where would you think all the musicians? Obviously, we know Beyonce and Jay-Z stand. I saw this guy, Instagram, this guy Patrick McDavid. And he was at Mar-a-Lago. And he was like, yo, all these naysayers and fucking people that just were shitting on Trump, they're sucking his dick right now because he's the president again.

Basically is what you were saying. In other words, yeah. Very similar. I don't think people use those words, but yeah. Run to the light. Run to the light. So that's what everybody's doing. Run into the light of Trump. I guess. I don't know, man.

All I know is he's doing a fucking better job than fucking Sleepy Joe. That guy, like, I feel like all this fucked up shit happened. And the first time Trump got in office, like, here's some coronavirus. Deal with that shit. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's not, he weathered the storm. He went through that shit. But, like, that wasn't easy for somebody. Did you ever meet Bill Clinton? No. Never met Bill. Obama? No.

So weird, like, I didn't meet Obama, but I was called when he was running for office to, like, you know, they were looking for cool people to, like, be part of his campaign. And, like, they wanted to pick me up and me go in a limo with him to some club or something. And I said, no, I don't know. Nobody knew who he was. I didn't even know if he was white, black, or anything. I didn't know. And they just said, Obama wants you. Nah, I'm fucked up. I'm doing an eight ball instead of the way...

But I don't know if he did that much as a president here. Like, I don't really know. If he did that much cocaine as a president? No, I don't think he did that much as a president. I thought Scott and you were saying Obama 8-ball like you gave him an 8-ball or something like that. But, yeah. No, I don't want to start any rumors. Scott is not saying anything about the 8-ball with the president. No. That's two separate things. No, no, no, no. I was saying I don't know how much he did as a president. But, like, I do know that, I guess, like, I just feel like Trump is the...

are saving grace right now. And I don't think that a lot of these things would have happened, like a lot of problems would have happened if he was in office less. He would be one hell of a rapper if you think about it. The amount of shit-talking he can do and how quick... I can't imagine if somebody just pulled up to Trump, and let's just say he goes on a podcast that's all about hip-hop, and they say, could you freestyle? I can only imagine if all of a sudden...

He drops the shit. It's called the weave. I started here. And you're in the back, ding, ding. And he's like, yeah, you know. Well, there's one thing for sure. He's been mentioned in more rap songs than any president, maybe any celebrity of all time. Any president? Yeah, probably. No, probably. Probably, probably. Scott, just out of curiosity, I mean, where you're at, what do you have if you have to choose between Biggie and Tupac? What's your opinion on that?

Two different things. Both amazing. I feel like I'm on drink champs because that's what they do. It's like if you have to pick one and if you can't, you have to take a shot. One's a poet, one's a storyteller. Here's a better question to ask. Which one have you played or listened to the most? Biggie's music or more Tupac?

Which have you listened to? Both. No, you can't say that. I have, though. That's not true, though. I made a record for Tupac, though. I did remix one of his songs, yeah. Oh, you're talking about the... Well, I just sling crack because I had to. Look, Tupac got better and better over time. But I'm like, Biggie's career was so short.

It's hard to like, yeah.

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I dated Lil' Kim, too, so I guess me and him were like Eskimo brothers. You dated Lil' Kim? No. You did or you didn't? I did. Really? Yeah. Like, what era? She's awesome. She doesn't look the same, though. Lil' Kim, to me, used to be... She did a little too much surgery. Yeah. Yeah. I'll let him get carried away with that shit, like, later in life. But Lil' Kim, at one point, was... Bad. Yeah. So you had Big Kim, Kim Kardashian, you had Lil' Kim, you had Paris...

Bro, pardon my language, but I fucked everybody. Literally, I didn't leave nothing. Nothing to chance. Out of all the girls you've been with, if you could have put a ring on one of them, who did you actually love? What a question. Adam's in a very loving space. Scott knows. I'm going to tell you this. I was married one time for one day in Vegas because I was fucked up. I don't know. You pulled a Britney Spears? Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

For some reason to me, I've had relationships, long relationships. But who was the one that got away? Who did you actually love? Who would you actually like? Someone that we would know. You're like, I'll tell you what. So and so and so. If I coulda, woulda, shoulda. Who woulda, that woulda been, Scott? Walk us down memory lane. You've been with them all. Come on. I don't know. Get in your feelings right now. Maybe we'll play a little Mario. You should let me love you.

who is it i always was going out with people for the wrong reason like for me it was like i get involved with a girl because she had a great ass and that's not deep enough to have like the intimacy and the love that's going to stand the test of time for some people that's spiritual that's you know it's a look i'm not the i can't say i made all the right decisions in my life i know how to make music i can't tie my shoelaces you know what i'm saying like

At a certain age in my prime, I decided I liked this thing called drug sex. When you're doing fucking drugs, you're getting fucked up and you're fucking. That's not what love is. You get caught in your ways. It was an old expression. You can't teach an old trick new dogs. You can make beautiful music, but you can't tie your shoelaces.

Like the other night we had dinner. This guy. I know people that are so smart but have no common sense. This guy, let me tell you, PPD. He has a napkin right here. Right here. Napkin at dinner. At, where do we have it? At Matarano's. This guy, I looked at him, he went like this. I'm like, Scott, use your napkin.

But is it something about the way you're wired? Just like, I don't give a fuck. What did you have at Martirano? Did you have the Philly cheesesteaks? Of course. The Philly cheesesteaks, everything. Incredible. See, the challenge at Martirano is when they turn on the music, I can't talk to you. You got to go early. You got to go early. We went early that one night. You got to go early. If you're in the mood for that, like a lot of people, like they're not going to the clubs. I go to restaurants for three reasons. I go for three reasons.

I go for company. I go for service. I go for great food. I'm not going for music. So that's the three reasons. If I want to listen to music, I'm going to a different place. But it's a party. It is a freaking happening spot. Folks, if you're listening to this, everybody knows. I'm Team Casa D'Angelo. It's very simple. That's where I go. In the last seven days, I was there five times in the last seven days. Can I tell you something else? Yeah. There's another one, another sleeping guy. Is that the 9-5, the one, the...

The number place that everybody... Trattoria Romano. Yeah, of course, in Boca. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right off of Palmetto. Yeah, we've been there. I used to go there all the time. You got that? Palmetto, right across the street from Los. Not the place you would go to lunch every day. I used to go there a lot. Prime Italian is not a fucking bad. Yeah. They got the cheesesteak, too. Well, okay, so last thing before we wrap up. What's next for you? What's next for you? Well, let me see. I'm thinking about this.

Make sure I say the right things. You're going to announce like you and Kim are back together? Which one? Yeah, I'm just saying Kim K because he seemed pretty sentimental about that one. No. All right. So like, you know, I've done so much music making in my life that, you know, sometimes I want to continue that, but I want to do something different. I want to like...

you know, try something new. Like, I feel like even like when I was making music, I would try different kinds of music because when you're not so formulaic in your delivery, because you've done it so many times, you're learning along the way. And that's where some of the most accidental genius things that you make happen that are hybrids of other things. But now I think I have a lot to say and I have, I have the ability to captivate people. So like, I want to, you know, do like a television show, like a variety show,

With a podcast, with, like, that whole kind of thing. Like, I want to do something that's different. Live entertainment, comedians, this, that. Even a little sketch comedy involved. Like, something really dope. You know, something different. Where do you live? That people wouldn't expect from me. You're still in Miami? Yeah. All right. That's cool. Something amazing. Like, I have a pretty big reach. And, like, I think I can bring the right people in and, like...

I don't know, like have fun moments that are very spontaneous and very like, you know, just like unexpected from me. And a lot of people don't know who I am. They don't know there's a humorous, funny, humble guy that's just done a lot of shit, fucked everybody, had everything and lost it and not embarrassed to it. No, I'm very like, I don't really care. If you can't take a fuck, joke him. If you can't take a joke, fuck him. Yeah.

I almost feel like this was a blast of a podcast. We talked about a lot of different things. I learned your favorite person in the world today is Kanye. I learned you miss Kim. I learned you did business with a lot of different people. But if there's one thing I can tell you, I have a feeling that

I'm curious what dinner's going to be like with cameras off and no mic. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that makes sense. By the way, not to cut you off, I have a song that I did like three years ago with my boy Ryan, who's such a cool guy. He's an inventor. He's a lab guy. He's like, you know, doing some incredible stuff. And his, I don't know, his company, and we made a song. He made a movie about like,

blood testing and things and like corruption in that world and like all kinds of shit but like I did the theme song for the thing it's pretty mean where I kind of like interpolated the karate kid you know the best that type of shit like what a song are you kidding me but we switched the song has evolved by the way before we wrap up what are you doing with Grand Theft Auto right now aren't you in the game I'm not allowed to talk to NDA oh okay gotcha alright

But to be, yeah, I was already there. I was already in it. They put me, Dre, and Jimmy in an online version of it. Okay. Yeah, he is in it. That's right. I've seen it. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so maybe there's something else that's going on. Maybe, maybe not. It's going to be massive. All I know is that game is going to be the shit. That's the biggest fucking video game. They've been delaying it, and people are pissed, and they're creating anticipation, but they're looking forward to it. My man, this was a blast. Great having you, brother. Much love.

Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Hey, what's going on? I'm Scott Storch, and you might have seen me on the PBD podcast, and you might have some questions you want to ask me. I'm available on the Minette app, and you can ask me about pretty much anything, music, industry stuff, you know, my life and my history, or, you know, anything, technical questions with music, equipment, whatever, production techniques. Check it out, Minette. Three months, we've, of course...

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