Macron Shoved, Trump BLASTS Putin, Jordan Peterson DESTROYED & Ron DeSantis BOOED! | PBD Podcast | Ep. 592
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And I know a lot of you guys have been waiting, but those of you who have, we have a big show here for you today. We are not in the States, if you don't already know. This isn't the usual set, guys. We are out of the country. By the end or middle of the podcast, we may reveal a video to kind of show to you where we are for some of you guys that don't know. And I'll maybe give you a little bit of a hint why we're here, why we decided to be here at a crazy time like this with all the stuff that's going on for us.

But there's a lot of stories that's going on. And I have so many opinions. I know Tom does. I know a lot of us do. And I'm sure some of you guys do as well on these topics that we'll cover here. Let me kind of get into some of them. Again, it's one of those things where I feel like we haven't on a podcast for quite a few days and so much has happened. Trump is not happy with Putin. On a call, he specifically said, I am not happy with what he's doing. We'll talk about that.

Even calling him crazy. All caps. All caps. Calling him crazy. Kaitlyn Clark is driving the WNBA insane. It's to the point that she may need to step away from the WNBA.

Have a billionaire come in that has the money to prove a point and say, Caitlin, I'll pay you $50 million just to see if the WNBA can make it without you. Let's go create a completely different league. And expose the hell out of the WNBA just to embarrass this Angel Reese girl that Jameel Hill just said she could go down as a Michael Jordan of WNBA. And wait till I show you a couple statistics here. And then Ryan Clark made a comment about...

you know, RG3 and saying RG3, you wouldn't know what it's like. You're married to a white woman. This thing got very ugly, very quickly. And then Brittany Griner, this guy, I don't know where it comes out. And what happened?

This guy out of nowhere? Doesn't he shoot without a shirt on? I saw him shooting at his pool. I'm under the impression it's a transgender. He was wearing surf trunks by the pool. I'm being genuinely confused. She may be a he. Maybe. I thought it's a guy. When the topless pool sounds like France. Let's just say Brittany comes out and Brittany makes some comments saying, I miss the good old WNBA days when the audience weren't here and it wasn't packed. It was more like a...

And she calls Caitlyn a white trash. And by the way, you know what happens to Caitlyn? We'll talk about that here. Something happened to Caitlyn that's going to mix it up. Yes, Trump is giving a speech and he starts talking about trophy wives, which by the way, it's another one of those funny things, but you got to love this guy. He'll say things that drive a lot of other people insane. Cuomo made some comments on the religion of Islam. Tommy Robinson is officially free. There's a TV network in Lebanon that I want to show you one of these clips of this man who's a host who happens to be Muslim

And on this Lebanon Broadcasting International, and he interviews 10-year-old, 13-year-old girls that are with a 27-year-old man crying. It's wild. LBC. And it's not for the LBC you think about. This is a different LBC. I'm talking like Long Beach Crypt. We're talking about the radio station and TV station on Lebanon.

And then, Oprah, I got an old clip of Oprah I want to show. Very old clip of Oprah I want to show to you guys. Money market, a very interesting data was shared by Shamath the other day that I retweeted that shows how much money is in money market today. It's the highest money we've ever had in money markets ever. It's not really a good sign because a money market where you go is to play safe because you don't really know what's going on with the market. I'll show it to you guys later.

I'm sure Tom's got some thoughts. Jordan Peterson did one of these Jubilee type of shows, you know, where they kind of sit there and talk. And he's talking to all these other, this other Christian, one of the Christian kids said something and it seemed like to be a little bit of a clash. I actually want to get Tom's thoughts as well as your thoughts on it. Harvard foreign student,

You know, are upset at Trump. Kristi Noem came and said something to Harvard directly. Trump is thinking about taking $3 billion of money out from Harvard to give it to trade schools. Very interesting what it's formulating over there. One fun fact about the EMB I want to kind of reveal to you guys. I saw this. I said, you know what? I think it could be a story all the way at the end that we can talk about. Nuclear energy. Nuclear energy.

There's a story about nuclear energy and what the president is doing to accelerate. We right now, I think, only have one in development right now that are waiting for permits. China's got 18 pending that they're already going through and they're accelerating. And our permits are slowing down the process of coming up with these next nuclear plans, which we do need. Tim Cook may get a 25% tariff tax if he doesn't build these iPhones in the States. Trump's not happy about it. We'll see what's going to happen there. And then Tim Cook makes a phone call to the Texas governor about...

These safety, child safety legislation that I think maybe a little bit of Layla Micklewitt was pushing with the guests that we had on the podcast because she was going after Pornhub and we had the owners of Pornhub here on the podcast.

Shipping costs for companies may double due to the China-U.S. trade war that's taking place. There was a, I think it was a five-year anniversary of George Floyd's, what's it called? Overdose. He overdosed. It was a five-year anniversary of it. He did overdose. And then there was a major boycotting of Target. Target is in the middle of this. They don't know how to handle it. You should have seen this mayor crying. It's a lot of spectacles going on, but we'll talk about that.

Macron got hit by his husband and it was a very weird situation when you saw this. Hey, Pat, boys will be boys. I mean, it is what it is. A part of it is just at this point of the game. Getting off an airplane, maybe he didn't let him sit in first class or something. I don't know what it was, but it was pretty upsetting. It was a pretty upsetting situation.

on what happened. MTG, she had something that happened with Grok, I believe. They had a feud because somebody said, is she still a Christian? Is she not a Christian? What's going on? And she got upset and she went after it. And then there was another chatbot, which folks, this is crazy. Another chatbot threatened the user that if you share this with others, I'm going to tell your wife that you're having an affair because I know what you're searching based on your phones.

That's some creepy stuff right there. And it searched his email on his computer. Let me tell you, that is going to be some real stuff for some guys. I'm like, holy moly. Exactly. So guys, before you get your phone with all the different chatbots, you may want to listen up to this one here. We're just going to clean up your life and get rid of some distraction. All right. Iran, the fifth round of negotiation. There's a profile. I found a video about back in the days with Iran's...

what the uscis profile was on the shah and they broke it down very interesting to watch i found a clip of the show with walt disney that we got to see as well and we got a few other things here i believe we have adam adam tell us let's see how you sound can you say a few words adam to see if you can hear you loud and clear he's not listening adam can you hear us or no

No. Adam, we can't hear the dialogue on the Nutrisystem ad. Rob, if you want to speak with him and maybe tell him to turn off that adult movie I was playing in the background. But anyways, all right. So we'll figure this thing out. Everybody's in different places. We've done it before. If not, we've got a lot of stories we'll do here on House as well. All right. Before we get into it, I want to share with you guys something.

One of the biggest things that we had is a lot of people were saying, well, Pat, you know, some of the stuff that I have, I can't wear it to the gym. Can we get some Valuetainment gym gear? And we finally got it. And our model that we hired is kind of a big deal. We are this good-looking Assyrian guy who happens to be single with one of our friends here, Natalia. Rob, can you show us the new gear we have with Valuetainment merch for those that go to the gym and work out? Go for it, Rob. Valuetainment.com

That's sick. Look at those legs, Pat.

You see that little wink at the end there? That's not else for you, baby. The future looks strong and sweaty. Go to VTmerch.com, place your order, get your gear, go to the gym, support the future looks bright. And anybody that places an order, you get a I Love VT keychain being sent your way. Okay, so let's get right into the podcast. Rob, for whatever reason, I want to kind of start off with a different story here today if we can. I think we start off with...

This story about Trump and Putin. So if you have the clip of Trump not being happy with Putin, calling him crazy, I'll read the story here and then we'll get into it.

So Trump says he's not happy with Putin after massive Ukraine strike. Now, you've got to keep in mind, the president has been negotiating hardcore with Putin to get things done there, but he's not listening. And President Trump expressed strong disapproval of Vladimir Putin's actions, stating that at Morristown Municipal Airport, and here's what he had to say. Go for it, Rob.

I'll give you an update. I'm not happy with what Putin's doing. He's killing a lot of people and I don't know what the hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time. Always gotten along with him. But he's sending rockets into cities and killing people and I don't like it at all. Okay? We're in the middle of talking and he's shooting rockets into Kiev and other cities. I don't like it at all. President, what do you want to do about that? I'm surprised. I'm very surprised. We'll see what we're going to do. What am I going to tell you?

Any other questions? I don't like what Putin is doing. Not even a little bit. He's killing people.

And something happened to this guy, and I don't like it. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, the president's being very clear here, absolutely clear. But you know what? He doesn't negotiate with the media in front of the media, nor does he give the media anything other than what he wants them to run with. And what I think was happening behind closed doors is he really thought two weekends ago that he had Putin and he had Zelensky kind of walk into a bridge.

And they were walking on a bridge together, not to blow it up, not to jump off, but a bridge of understanding and kind of a bridge of solution. And all of a sudden, you've got additional rockets going off that multiple sources have confirmed. And worse, they were hitting civilian areas, not military targets. And so you can kind of see the ire in the president's voice there about you're hitting people, killing people. You're launching these rockets. And he named one of the small cities there.

And so I think he's very frustrated with that. And on the other side, you've also heard him be equally frustrated with Zelensky. And he was saying Zelensky has been saying some things and he better knock it off and he better. And there was a warning to Zelensky saying,

versus a statement to Putin. That's what I heard. The statement to Putin was, I don't like it at all. To Zelensky, it was, he better knock off these things he's saying, and he better knock it off soon. That's a different tone to both men, even though Trump is in the middle. Thought he had a bridge, it sounded like, two weeks ago, and is very frustrated at this moment. Adam, before I come to you, turn off the TV behind you. Vinny, what are your thoughts on this? Well, I think, Pat, this goes to show, like, I remember all the years that we had to hear...

What Trump is Putin's puppet and Putin's puppet would never, ever talk like that. He is pissed off because he had them both in the negotiating table. OK, this war did not start under him. He's trying to clean up the mess from the other previous administration. I'm not ever going to say Biden administration ever again, Pat, because I had nothing to do with Joe Biden. This is all because of their fault. Joe Biden said out of his mouth, he said, you know what?

If Russia invades Ukraine, if it's a minor incursion, it's all good. He invited them to go do it. And now he's cleaning up a mess. And Putin, I'm telling you right now, Putin is not going to budge, especially with NATO trying to creep in, which they promised them. Remember, who was this, Tom? Who was it that said, Nyet means Nyet. Not going in at all. And this is just a direct result because Zelensky is acting like a little spoiled little brat that they freaking created. And Putin is a boss that they pushed to the limit. And this is what we get because of it. Adam, your thoughts.

So first, can you hear me okay? I can, yeah. Okay, great. I think, Vinny, as much as I love you and respect you, you couldn't be further off from what is happening here. The reason I say that is this. Trump is realizing in real time that Putin is the problem. Putin is the bad guy. Putin is the...

Autocratic thug that cannot be controlled. As much as Zelensky is annoying and feminine and taking our money, at least he's an ally. In my opinion, Putin's looking at the situation and saying the following. Oh, you thought you were going to end this in day one? Really?

Mr. President, you thought you were going to come in and just dictate what the New World Order was going to be. Really, Mr. President? Well, let me show you how I operate. I've been running Russia for 25 years.

What you say is irrelevant to me. And in my opinion, Putin is doing this just to piss off Donald Trump. So we're going to see where this relationship goes. I like what you're saying. I like what you're saying. I'm going to give you a twist to it. Let me give you guys a twist. Here's what I'd love to see. And I would love...

to see Trump go so hard on Putin and to watch Democrats the next day become Putin fans and hate Ukraine. I mean, these guys are so, I guarantee you, if Trump all of a sudden went hardcore on Putin and said, "He's a this, he's a dictator, he's a this," overnight you would see the Dems sitting there, "Oh my God, this is not fair, what he's doing." It would be the 80/20 split and they would take the other side on what's going on there. But the reality of it is, you know what Putin is saying? He's his own guy.

And it's showing that when it comes down to this negotiation with these two guys, it's a lot harder than he thought it was going to be. Whether this is going to get done or not, who knows whether it's going to get done. They're all playing power games right now. And everybody wants something in the deals and someone's not happy.

sometimes when you go through this kind of stuff it happens in business all the time where something some offer was made then you flip then you lose the guy then you want the guy to come back and negotiate with you but you lost trust with them because now you haven't kept your word on three different instances the guy doesn't trust you moving forward it could be on anything that a company is doing it could be a bonus you were paying it could be a anything that you're doing like listen i just don't trust what this guy's going to be doing because this is not becoming a track record so if behind closed doors

promises were made on deals that are not being kept, someone is not happy. If then Putin thinks that a side deal is happening with Zelensky that he's not aware of, that now Trump is going and siding with him,

Putin is going to sit there and say, listen, I'm not in a hurry to do any deals with you. I'm going to keep going as far as I'm going to be going. If you're now siding with that over a deal you were doing with me. Because at this point, the minerals deals he wanted from Zelensky is what? It's done. They got it in place. But he hasn't gotten Putin to slow down with the fight. So that may take a minute as they're going through it. It doesn't seem like Putin is going to be listening. Rob, what is this clip that you have here, Rob?

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From the Kremlin now, this is being brought to us by the Reuters news agency. Responding to those remarks made by Donald Trump regarding Vladimir Putin and the Kremlin says there is some emotional overload at this crucial moment. That is the line being brought to us

quoting the Kremlin, saying, though, that despite Donald Trump saying that Vladimir Putin has gone, and I quote, "absolutely crazy," the Kremlin's saying we're grateful to Trump for assistance in launching the Ukraine peace negotiations.

and that Russia, it says, had taken decisions necessary for the security of Russia and that it claims that the strikes on Ukraine were on military targets. Why are they showing an old clip of them having John Bolton? Sky News has shown this thing. Very interesting to show a clip from back in the days. And Mnuchin. Yeah, Mnuchin and Ivanka and Jared and a lot of these guys that are not showing the new regime that's there. All in all...

you know putin's gonna say all that stuff to try to get under his skin this is a clip from 2019 but uh this seems to be a little bit of a more difficult task for him than it seemed like while he was campaigning but and i adam i respect you for having your opinion but at the end of the day none of this happens if it wasn't for the last administration puin wasn't doing anything he was at bay he was chilling zero now it's a shit storm because you

You propped up one guy. They made all of us think the other guy was Satan as if we're innocent as a country as well. I don't buy it, bro. I don't buy it at all. And I think it's we created two freaking monsters. And then, by the way, Zelensky, he's our ally. What has he done for us, Adam? I'm just very curious. I know Pat wants to go to the next story. What?

What is Ukraine doing for us? How is Ukraine helping the United States of America? How are they allied? Besides sucking us dry for all of our money, taking advantage of our old administration with the son and the dad and all those deals, I don't see any positive coming out of Ukraine. Can you give me one except hot girls? No, I'm being dead serious. Don't ever downplay that. That should be clear on that. But I'm just saying. Everything you said was correct. You know, as far as...

If we want to play Monday morning quarterback of why we got here, that's great. You're right. But how the hell does that help us end the war? It could have been prevented. Sure. If Trump was the president, none of this would have happened. The red line. Sure. But that doesn't help us end the war now. And you are right. Like Ukraine up until now was not an ally of the United States. They're not a member of NATO. You are right about that. But again,

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Let's never forget that.

We're learning in real time that Russia, as much as certain people want to twist it, the Tucker Carlson's of the world, how they want to be sycophants to Putin's Russia. They are not our ally. The Cold War is still not over. And Putin is a legacy of the Cold War. And we're learning in real time how this guy wants to operate. That's my opinion. All right. Let's go to the next story here, guys. Next story I want to go to is.

Two stories having to do with Tim Cook. So one of them is having to do with tariffs. The other one is about him and...

The governor of Texas, two different things, but both very, very interesting. I'll start off with the first one. Rob, I don't know if we have a clip on this one or not. We do. Okay, so let's go through the first one. So Trump-Apple relationship devolves with threats. This is the hill. President Trump threatened a 25% tariff on Apple products if the company does not shift more manufacturers to the U.S., stating, I have long ago informed Tim Cook of Apple that I expect their iPhones to

that will be sold in the U.S., will be manufactured and built in the U.S. as well, and later told reporters, the iPhone, if they're going to sell it in America, I want it to be built in the U.S. This marks a shift from the cordial relationship during Trump's first term when Apple secured tariffs exemption as Cook now faces

pressured despite a $500 billion U.S. investment pledge, including a new Texas factory, the tariff threat, part of Trump's broader push to reshore manufacturing, follows Apple supplier Foxconn, $1.5 billion investment in India, prompting Trump to say, I said to him, Tim, you are my friend. I don't want you to build in India. Rob, is this the clip? Yes. Go for it, Rob. Mr. President, on Apple,

Apple, you said this morning that if they don't make their iPhones in the US, you're going to hit them with a 25% tariff. Do you have the power to tariff one single company? And why would you want to put an American company in that way? It would be more. It would be also Samsung and anybody that makes that product. Otherwise, it wouldn't be fair.

So anybody that makes that product, and that'll start on, I guess, the end of June, it'll come out. I think we have that appropriately done by the end of June. So if they make that product now, again, when they build their plant here, there's no tariff. So they're going to be building plants here. But I had an understanding with Tim that he wouldn't be doing this. He said he's going to India to build plants. I said, that's OK to go to India, but you're not going to sell into here without tariffs.

And that's the way it is. Tom, your thoughts. So basically, it goes back to the this is the China chess game. Number one, he loves the fact that India is flanking China.

China with trade deals. He loves that. And he loves it that Tim Cook and Apple have been moving for several years in this direction. That's a good thing. The thing that President Trump is also pointing out is like, look, I want you to onshore or nearshore

You're manufacturing. And even if you have automated manufacturing and there's a few people that work there, those are jobs working there. And it's also a whole bunch of jobs to build those buildings and those factories. And that's what Trump wants. Trump wants jobs in the U.S. He wants U.S. economy to get the benefit first. So he doesn't mind the flanking, but he doesn't want Apple to stop there. There's your headline.

I want you to move out of China. I just don't want you to merely go next door to India and not bring any benefits to American shore. That's what the discussion is about. And I support the president. I think he's absolutely right. What percentage does he have to move to the States for him to be happy with it?

Because he didn't say 100%, right? He says a portion. What is a portion? Do you think they've had that specific conversation to say, I need 20% to be made here? Yeah, well, I don't know if it's a percent or it's like, look, take me through your products that you could make here

without crushing the cost for the consumer? What could you do? Could you do ear pods here? What could you be making here on shore so that there'd be a benefit to the American consumer in terms of jobs, benefit to the American economy, and you're not going to crush the price? I think that's the conversation. Trump does deals. So I think that's the discussion with Tim. Tim, come on.

You know, what can you put on shore? What can you do that won't crush your economics and also make it hard for the consumer? Because he even said when the reporter followed up, well, what about Samsung? No, no, no. It'll apply to all of them. Otherwise, that wouldn't be fair. You heard him say that. So he's he's saying openly there. Hey, Tim, I'm not going to disadvantage you. I'm going to press the button for everybody. I think it's a discussion of what can be brought on.

But if I had to throw a dart at the wall, you know, I think he's going to look at it and say, OK, what percent of what percent of your devices are sold to Americans? And I think he's going to want to put him on a path toward that number. Adam, your thoughts. So get ready for your iPhone to cost more money. My American friends, you ever go to the mall, you ever seen the at the Apple store, just people lining up?

for hours, if not days, for the latest iPhone product. Have you seen this ever? Of course. So I see it all the time. I'm like, I'm still, I think, operating on an iPhone 14. I don't even know what version we're on these days. But two things are going to happen.

First, let's get this out of China into India. I totally understand why Trump wants it made in the USA. But understand that as an American, when you see made in the USA, you know what's going to happen next? Get ready to pay a premium. Because if iPhones cost $1,000 and you're talking 25% tariffs, your iPhone is now going to cost $1,250. And the American consumer is going to pay the price, right?

We're being made in America. Now, if you love America, get ready to pay a little bit more. And that's fine. But most Americans are paycheck to paycheck. Most Americans feel they deserve the latest, the greatest, the best. But you're going to have to pay a little bit more for that. Well, guess what, Adam? And I'm happy that you have the 14, because guess what? If we want to make America great again and we do want to bring jobs back here, Tommy, guess what?

If you have the 14, you don't need the 17 or the 18. This is a freaking batten down the hatches type of moment. And I love that attitude. I'm saying I love that point of view. It's like we want the next. Like, I hate this phone now. It's almost as if, remember when Apple got in trouble, Pat? They were sending that thing that made the phone and the battery die quicker. They got in trouble for that shit because they want you to buy the new phone. You know what I mean? You don't need the brand new phone every single year. Who the hell do you think you are? If you can't afford it.

calm your ass down let america adjust and then we move on from there that's my attitude they're talking about 60 million new phones if they bring and build a fully manufactured phone in america it's roughly 3 500 bucks it's 3 500 if you want to buy the brand new one fully manufactured iphone built in america it's 3 500 bucks so to me if that comes here

Companies are making more profits. You're creating more jobs. Salaries are going up. No problem. You can afford it. But if it's not, it's a big price. So what happens then? Then Apple sits on a lot of phones that are not moving. Apple knows if they go to India, then Apple's going to do whatever they can to get a new president to come in because a new president hopefully is going to be in a different way with phones being made. Who knows what's going to happen? So there is the pressures on free enterprise companies.

When you see things like this happen, a story came out about the fact that shipping, I don't know what page that shipping story is on, Rob, but there's a story about shipping that prices for shipping, huh? Say that again? Page seven. Page seven, yeah. There's a story about, and it has nothing to do with the phones. I'll come back to it. Shipping costs set to double as companies rush to import goods before China-U.S. trade ends. So for me, I would love for those things to be built here, but you just have to know the prices are going to go up. So major shipping carriers are

like Hapag-Lloyd, plan to raise their rates for a 40-foot container from China to West Coast to $6,500, Vinny, from $3,500.

These containers used to only cost you $3,500. Now it's $6,500. And East Coast ports to $7,500 instead of $4,500. For West Coast, it's an 80%, 90% increase. For East Coast, it's roughly a 70% increase. That's a massive increase of what they're doing. That's not a joke. As of June 1st, as companies rush to import goods before May 12th, China's U.S. trade truce expires with Jay Foreman of Basic Funds stating, the increase will squeeze...

margins and it will result in higher prices for consumers. Another $8,500 container is expected to be by June 15, according to Journal of Commerce. So gradually they're raising the rates, going a little bit higher, a little bit higher. And this leads me to, Rob, if you can go to my...

The story with the money market, there's a tweet I put up there from Shamad right there. If you can show this, watch this. So a bar chart, Tom, if you take a look at this, a staggering $7.24 trillion is now sitting in money markets. Can you just click on the click on the this is an all time high. Vinny, you know what this is? You know what a money market is? So money market is kind of like imagine you have a checking account. You make no interest on it.

Then say you got to save an account. Let's say you make half a percent on it. Barely. Then let's say you got a CD today. I don't know what a CD pays today, Rob, if you can pull it up. What does a CD pay today at a bank? Let's say it's 2%. Yeah, one year, two year, five year, Rob. Whatever the number is it tells you. Say it's anywhere between 1% to 3%. I'm just making up numbers right now. 4.50? Oh, 2.3. The best CDs are paying 4.50, 4%. Okay, great.

A six-month is paying 3.85%. They got a 4%. So a money market today, what is the rate of return in the best money market account? You can literally put your money in a money market today, no matter what the stock market does. No matter what the stock market does. Your money market as of today at any bank you choose, many of them, Discover Bank, 3.5%.

All the way up to 4.4%. Okay? Bank rate of intelligence between 4% to 4.5%. So let's just say a person's got a million dollars. Let's say $10 million. You put $10 million in a money market, what are you making per year? 4%. 4%, 4.5%. What's 4.5% on $10 million? Oh, no, Vinny.

$450,000 per year. I was going to say it. If a person's making $450,000 a year, you know what the money market was four years ago? Nothing. What was money market rates? Money market rates in 2019. Below a percent? Let me just find out what it was in 2019. It was nothing. It was 0.25. Nothing. In 2019, it was 0.01. The point is it's gone up. It's rarely this high. So when you're seeing that much,

Okay, Rob, go back to the money market accounts where it's at. Look at this here. We have $7.2 trillion. Is it trillion? I think it is trillion. $7.2 trillion right now, Vinny, that's sitting in money market. That's cash. That's a lot of money. Do you know what that sign is of? Because the president wants that money to be where? If I believe in the future of S&P 500, where would that money be? In the stock market. In the stock market.

If it's in the stock market, that means I'm optimistic. If it's in the money market, I'm saying, dude, I don't know what's going to happen to the stock. I want to make sure my money is chilling. I'm just going to be chilling. So even with all the instability that's going on, if my prediction in the next 6 to 18 months, that's going to drop to $5.5 trillion to $6.2 trillion because I think people are going to go to the market. Do you see how that looks like from 2008? Jump. How all of a sudden it dropped.

No, look at the drop. What is the drop? The drop is 2008. Go a little bit higher. That's five. Right there. You see eight. Boom. All of a sudden it drops.

which means people are going into the market, right? I'm going to put some money in the market and I'm going to go and then boom, it spikes up again. I'm nervous. So we haven't seen a drop off since 2018, 2019 in the market. We haven't seen it. So there's a concern here what that could look like. Tom, your thoughts on this chart? Well, this is a great chart, Pat. There's two spikes. You see the spike we have right now, which is like the tariff spike and

And then you have the spike. Then there's a little flatness there where it's like a little jiggly. And then you see that spike that's there, Vinny, 2020, 2021. See that big spike right there? You know what that was? COVID. Oh, my God, what's happening? I'm scared. And I put out of the market and I put my money in a money market. And then we come out of COVID. It levels for a bit. Now, here come the tariffs. Oh, my God, I'm scared. What do I do? I pull out and I put my money in a money market.

but take a look at what's happening the s&p is back to 58 50 we had a big bounce yesterday because uh trump said well you know what i you know what maybe i'll wait another 30 days 60 days 90 days before full impact of tariffs the market loved that so here we are 5900 again by the way 61 50 is basically the all-time high under since november uh fourth when uh

Well, what do you think? 7.2 trillion in money markets. Here's what I think. The minute those things feel confident and they go out, start demanding stock, the indexes are going to go up. But what it says is that people are uncertain and a little bit scared at the moment. That's what it shows. It shows uncertainty and fear. And the best thing when you're uncertain and fearful

fear is you flee to things like gold and cash when interest rates are good with interest rates being the key there. Let me go to the next story here. Tim Cook called Texas governor to stop online child safety legislation. Whoa. Why would Tim Cook call to stop online child safety legislation? This is a Wall Street Journal story.

Apple CEO Tim Cook personally called Texas Governor Abbott to request changes or a veto of a child safety bill requiring app stores to verify users' ages, with an Apple spokesman stating, if enacted, Apple marketplaces will be required to collect and keep sensitive personal identity information for every Texan who wants to download an app, even if it's an app that simply provides weather updates or sports scores. The bill passed would veto-proof, majorities would make Texas the largest state...

to adopt such an app store accountability law, potentially increasing costs for Apple and Google. The Texas legislation mandates that app stores verify device owners' ages, linking minors' accounts to parents for an app approval, which supporter Senator Angela Paxton said her parents help parents understand what their children are really interacting with and give them tools to help them make a good parenting decision. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, Tim Cook's had a busy week.

He's working hard and he's got things going on. But there's some things in here that America needs to think about. Think about this. If you want to operate a liquor store in the state of Texas, actually in the state of anywhere, right?

Vinny, you want to operate a liquor store. You have to check IDs, everybody in there, right? And you have to get yourself a liquor license. Do I have to have an accent like I want to? No, no, no. Don't do that. I'll stay. Just go. I want to get into character. But you want to do it. You get yourself a license and

in some state and you start, you operate a liquor store and you have to check IDs for everyone that doesn't look 30 and have those stickers that are up by the register. If you don't look 30, we're going to card you. Don't get pissed off. Yeah. Okay. And guess what? When you swipe their credit card, you're keeping sensitive information. You have their name, you've got date of birth, you've got all kinds of things and you've got a credit card record. So now what,

all they're saying is, Hey, Apple, if you want to operate in the state of Texas and when kids are downloading apps like games where they can actually, they want to buy, you know, additional levels and things in the games or the games or things like grand theft auto, they're saying, Hey, guess what? You, you got to link the kid's account to your account because parents are also asking, wait a minute. I want to know what's on Instagram and Facebook. I'm,

I know that certain things at Grand Theft Auto are going to get rated higher, and I have to allow my kid, unless they get around me, to get that app. And Tim Cook's being told by... He says, listen...

Want to operate a gun store? Want to operate a liquor store? You want to operate a supermarket that sells beer? You got to check IDs. You have to do like this. Guess what? We're asking you to check and we're asking you to link because there's another thing hiding an iceberg below the surface that Apple doesn't want to talk about and Meta doesn't want to talk about. And the fact is all these statistics on kids.

and the distraction and what's happening in school when they're on social media during class, what's happening to the minds and young girls. We don't need to do it now, but there's a ton of data out on young girls that were suffering depression, hurting themselves or doing things online. They shouldn't be directly attributed to social media.

media and social media platforms that were actively out there trying to exploit them. And so now Texas has said, we've had enough Apple, you are the store. And if you want to sell these things in your store to Texans, you got to check. This is what we want you to do. And they said, well, it's going to cost us a lot of money. It says, okay, well, let me, let me check checking my notes. Yeah. You're the largest, most valuable company in the world. I,

I think you got some walking around money that you can handle putting these things in place and do development. You're a software developer. Develop things to make it easier. Adam, your thoughts. Well, I want to kick this back to you, BPD, because this seems like something that parents need to be fully aware of, whether they're in Texas or not. You know, I...

This past weekend, I was at one of my best friend's sons' bar mitzvah, 13 years old. I took my nephew Rory, who's 12. So all my friends, their kids are 10, 11, 12, 13 in this age bracket, and they all freaking have phones. And I remember being at quinceañeras and birthdays and bar mitzvahs, you know, 100 years ago when I was that age. And you were so fully in the moment and so fully present. And now everyone's on a phone.

So what I want to understand is, as a parent, how do you navigate stuff like that these days? Because for me, it's very weird seeing kids 13 years old, 12 years old, just face down in their phone, not living their life.

I know you've been very clear about how you handle this, but what's your advice on the general parenting with phones out there? Well, I mean, look, what Apple is trying to do, we had Layla Micklewaite on and Pornhub owner, Rob, if you remember when we had the Pornhub owner on. And I'm asking him, saying, so why aren't you just checking IDs for people that go on Pornhub? No, we can't do that. Why?

Is it because 90% of traffic would drop because nobody wants their IDs to be checked? Like imagine you're going on a porn website. Okay, post your picture of your ID. Hell no. Yeah, I know who you are. I don't watch. No, no, you don't want to. The person's going to be like, I don't want to be documented. Hell no. I said, well, you would lose 90% to 95% of your traffic. No, we wouldn't. I guarantee you, you would. So Layla McElwain pursues this.

and goes as far as doing this. And I think she was one of the ones that caused this Senate Bill 2420 to be taking place, a governor's signature aiming to require app stores to providers like Apple and Google to verify users. This is, let me tell you, this is massive.

for a lot of people in the porn industry that if this legislation goes through in Texas, guess who does it next? All the other red states. They're going to say, we want the same exact thing. When it comes down to phones, Dylan's over here. So as a kid, your kids are going to ask you for the phone for a few different reasons. Let's go through them. One of them is what?

is video games okay what's the other thing is listening to music what's the other thing texting their friends so remember you have three things well they can't buy if they don't have your credit card so amazon well amazon yeah but if you don't give them a logged in account that they can't just go buy stuff so you got what you got texting you got music you got video games yes or youtube if they're watching videos and they're watching movies and stuff like that netflix right so as a parent

If you want them to... Like, we're on a flight here. And on the flight, you know, the kids watch movies in the... It's on the seat. You can see it. So that at least gives you that. Hey, I want to listen to some music. You hand the phone to him. He's listening to music. But he's listening to music and he's texting. Of course. Or she's texting. So, okay, now I'm texting. Do you want that level of accessibility at that youngish to be texting somebody nonstop? No. I don't. So now...

Phones and iPads, parents have to be very much, because kids can tell you, I just want to listen to some music, but they're really texting somebody and not playing video games. I'm definitely not. Yesterday we went to dinner, and we had a few people that are not accustomed to being with dinner with us, and the phone was sitting on the table. And it's driving me nuts the entire time. You know why? Because I'm like, my kids are not going to come and say, well, if they can have a phone on the table, why do you not? And I'm like, no, everybody. So we go to summertime, we go vacation together, or Christmas, or whatever we do, what happens?

All phones are off the table. Tom, I, Vinny, we literally grab our phones. I know this sounds weird. And we fully put it on a different table. And we don't even look at the phone. Great idea. For two hours. And what does it make us do? We're talking. Talking. Looking at each other. We're talking. We're talking. We're talking. Conversation. I think we need to go more and more in that direction. But this is, to the average person that's reading this story, they're like,

I don't even know why they're covering this story. To the average person, trust me, it may not be a big deal to you. But to somebody that's in business that knows what's about to happen with Apple, there is a reason why Tim Cook picked up the call and called the governor, not saying one of his C-suite executives to call. This could be massive for Apple and very expensive across the board. They do not want this. Let me get to the next story here.

Next story here. All right, so the only reason I'm bringing this up is because how a small little story elevated into this crazy story that we got here today. So, you know, Kaitlyn Clark is playing a game. And there's this issue with her and Angel Reese. There's this – Kaitlyn Clark pushes one of the teammates of Kaitlyn Clark –

of caitlyn clark caitlyn clark fouls angel reese angel reese does one of these lebron flops and falls on the ground i mean she learned it from lebron falls to the ground and the next thing you know the market's like oh my god she's protected oh it's all because she's white and all this other stuff and then angel reese comes out and she's saying all these things and then jameel hill comes out rob i don't know if you have this clip or not jameel hill comes out and says angel reese at the end of her career

is going to end up being calls Angel Reese end of career will be known as Michael Jordan. All right. So for some of you guys that are watching this.

Unbelievable. Have you seen this thing? So, Jameel Hill, Rob, if you can find this thing, she says Angel Reese will end up being Michael Jordan in the end of her career. All right, we'll find this. Yes, I just typed it up, asked the question. Yes, Jameel Hill has publicly expert her belief in Angel Reese, has the potential to become the Michael Jordan of WNBA in a recent statement he'll place ahead of a Caitlin Clark suggesting that Reese could be viewed as the league's

defining superstar like a Michael Jordan is that the one Rob if you can uh I'm looking for the clip yeah okay anyway so so then outside of that uh RG3 and comes out and says man you know Caitlin Clark is a superstar and she's you know bigger than life and all this stuff Ryan Clark out of nowhere

Ryan Clark, who's a commentator, out of nowhere comes out and he says, well, what does RG3 know anything about this? RG3, who was a former quarterback, a great rookie quarterback. Washington. Washington, yeah. Went to Marshall. Went to Marshall. He says, what would RG3 know? Who's a black man, by the way. He says, what would RG3 know about this? He's married to a white woman. Pfft.

So stupid. And they're like, wait, what did you say? Ryan Clark says RG3 is married to a white woman. What would he know about all this stuff that's taking place? He actually said those words. Are you kidding me? I swear to you I haven't heard that. Okay, Rob, can you find this clip where Ryan Clark says how would he know he's married to a white girl? Is that the clip, Rob? Yes, sir. Okay, play this clip. Watch this, Vinny.

We moved in to being able to read the expressions of a person and know their intent, know their character, know their perspective. But he does understand hate because I think he also understands the hate of self.

When you look at the play, which is all we can speak to as professionals, all we can speak to as analysts, Angel Reese pushed one of her teammates. Kaitlyn Clark had a hard foul, which is part of basketball. I feel like it was assessed correctly. And Angel Reese's reaction is the sort of reaction you get in a situation when you feel like you took an intentionally hard,

Rob, is this the one where he says that's rivalry? RG3 is married to a white man. And so now, though, when RG3 jumps on to the hate train or to the angry train and now follows along with what we saw from Keith Olbermann, what we saw from Dave Portnoy as they poured on to Andrew Reese to make her the villain in Caitlin Clark's

heroic or hero story. The one thing we know about RG3 is he's not having conversations at his home about what black women have to endure in this country, about what young black women

women and athletes like Angel Reese have had to deal with being on the opposite side of Kaitlyn Clark's rise and ascension into stardom. Now, when you look at it, I think Asia Wilson is the face of the league. Who is the face of the league? He said Angel Reese?

Who did he say is the face of the league? Asia Wilson. Okay, you can pause that. RG3 responds back. RG3 responds back and says, what is that all about? To Ryan Clark's credit, he apologizes about this. Then Brittany Griner is playing a game, and this is what Brittany Griner calls. I was not going to comment on any of this stuff until this took place. Watch what she says. The entire internet has reacted to this. Here's Brittany Griner. They're playing against RG3.

The Indiana Fever, and look what she's saying. Go ahead, Rob. That pretty much sounds like trash effing white girl. I mean, let's just be honest. So the whole market reacts to this with Brittany Griner, right? And then the other quote, Rob, then I'm going to wrap this up and then I'm going to go to Adam. Put the quote of Brittany Griner, what she said about the NBA. This is so funny how all this stuff works out, right?

She says, this is from Britney. Every time we play her, there's this commotion, like this loud rumbling from the stands. Turns out it's people, thousands of them, just sitting there, watching on purpose. It's very disruptive. It's called a freaking game that they pay you money to play. Don't play the game. It's very disruptive.

It continues. Brittany Grant on Voice of Frustration in a recent interview claiming that Kaitlyn Clark is ruining what used to make the WNBA great. Wait for this. Empty stands? Tom, let me just... WNBA games used to be a chill, quiet place.

You could bring your laptop and relax, maybe even get a little work done. But now it's like there's a large gathering of people watching us from the stands. Some of them are yelling crazy shit about what they're seeing, putting unfair pressure on us to score like we're there for their entertainment. And that's pretty gross. Rob, can you verify that this is what she said on the mom and pop WNBA model that

That she's sick of the fact. And then she says, the whole thing is toxic. I saw a guy with his daughter in the crowd, both of them yelling, couldn't hear what they were saying exactly, but it was either about my performance or some light racism. Definitely one of the two. Give me a flip and break. Can I say something? Yeah, of course. First of all, yeah. First of all, I mean, and Adam, I know Adam, you have definitely have something to say, but, and I know Adam, I'm going to piggyback off of Adam. Cause Adam's been saying this for a while that, that,

this is why the WNBA is never, ever, ever going to work and never make money. And this is exactly what Caitlyn Clark gets for bending the knee. Do you guys remember when she said, when we lost all respect for her, when she said, I want to say I've earned every single thing, but as a white person, there is privilege. And that's

The more we can elevate black women, this is going to be a beautiful thing. That's when it was all over. And Angel Reese and Brittany Griner, they walk around like the league owes them something. Even Ryan Clark's attitude as if, bro, where's the victimhood? These are freaking millionaires. Like, what are you talking about? It's attitude. It's no humility, just entitlement. And that's not confidence. It's arrogance with receipts.

If you want fans, if you want your league to grow, act like a professional. The league already started underwater, and instead of fixing it, they're just poking more holes in the boat. And think about it. Brittany Griner talking all that trash. We traded the merchant of death for your ass, and you're out there talking shit and saying racist shit on the freaking sideline, and it's disgusting. That's why nobody watches it, and it'll lose money. No, they're watching it. No, no. The point is, Vinny.

If Kaitlyn Clark goes and is playing, they're watching it. Guess what was just announced yesterday? What? Kaitlyn Clark's injured. She'll be out for two weeks. Let's see what happens to viewership. Good, good. Let's see what happens to viewership. But do you think, and I know Adam's going to go, but do you think Kaitlyn Clark on her own is going to save this thing? There's no way, especially with what she said and how they're all going to eat her alive because she's a white girl in a league with predominantly black women and the fact that, by the way,

How can you say I'm sitting there and people are yelling? Thousands of people. It's distracting. You're playing basketball in an arena. It doesn't make sense, Tom. They're doomed. They're doomed and good for them. Adam, how much money did they lose a year? All of it. How much? How much? I mean, it's not even just a year. Every year. Tens of millions of dollars every year. They're like the Federal Reserve. Adam, what are your thoughts on this?

So I'm not going to do what you think I'm going to do and just trash the WNBA and tell you how horrible of a league it is and what a zombie company it is and how it is just completely toxic feminism with a little bit of racism and completely losing money. I'm not just going to do that. I'm glad you didn't even mention it. Thanks Adam. I'm also going to tell you that, uh,

The only reason that we're talking about the WNBA is two reasons. Number one, you know that summer's here and the NBA, the NHL football season is pretty much either ending or coming to an end or beginning because all we have left is Tom's favorite sport, Major League Baseball or WNBA. And this is the reason they played in the summer because there's nothing else going on.

So you know that the WNBA is coming in with that. Number two, we started this conversation with Angel Reese is going to be the second coming of who? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan? Stop it. Okay? Kobe's not Michael Jordan. LeBron's not Michael Jordan. Harold Minor back in the day was never Michael Jordan. The left-handed Michael Jordan.

Exactly. So now some 6'4", maybe lesbian or not, is the new Michael Jordan? Stop it. Okay, let me do this. The whole reason we're talking about the WNBA is because of Kaitlyn Clark. Angel Reese at best is the next Carl Anthony Towns. Shout out to the Knicks. But I will say one last thing. Sports, no matter what, is still the last place that DEI does not exist. There's no way she's Carl Anthony Towns.

Do you know why there's no issues with Carl Anthony Towns? Carl Anthony Towns shoots 40% from three, and he scored 20 points in the fourth quarter the other day. This is an insult to Carl Anthony Towns. Rob, can you pull up the stat that was just pulled up? Watch this here. Rob, I just asked you to Google something. Go all the way to the top. What did you Google, Rob? Can you tell the audience?

You typed in Angel Reese, 22.7%, lowest field goal percentage in season. Yes, in an ESPN report, shows that Angel Reese has a field goal percentage of 22.7% in a WNBA game, which is a significantly lower than an average usual, the lowest percentage reported. This woman, in a season. Rob, do me a favor, Rob. Go to ChatGBT and type in the following.

What is the single worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA? What is the single worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA? No, you type in ever, ever, ever in WNBA. What is the worst shooting percentage ever in WNBA? If you can put that ever in WNBA. Watch this, folks. Zoom in a little bit if you could. Watch this. Look what's going to come up.

You ready? This is supposed to be Michael Jordan. The lowest... Angel Reese's performance. Watch this. This is the kicker. Amongst players with more substantial playing time, Angel Reese's performance in 2024 stands out. She shot 43.8% on attempts within five feet of the basket. What?

Do you know what five feet is, Vinny? That's right here. If she's 6'4", then fingertip to fingertip is 6'6". So these guys are such clowns. You have a shot at getting more eyeballs to your league, and all of a sudden you fear because it's Kaitlyn Clark, a white girl. You know who Kaitlyn Clark's going to end up being in the weirdest way possible if she makes it? She's going to be the Jackie Robinson of WNBA. Who was the Jackie Robinson of MLB?

He brought blacks to the game. Of course. Okay. Jackie Robinson of the WNBA will be Kaitlyn Clark if she stays healthy. There's a group of them that would hope for her to be out. Why do you say she's going to be the Jackie Robinson of the WNBA? It's not like she's the first white girl. She's not the first white girl, but she's the first white superstar at the levels where she's scoring these goals.

you know the threes she's shooting she's like a steph crew she's the first actual superstar that people care when's the last time we watched like college basketball if i told you tell me the greatest college basketball female basketball players last 30 years and you watch i know her she's our meet but you look at some of these names you see some of these people on how they do yeah but caitlin clark came out the gates and and you know put up some numbers we've never seen before i give

Can I give some pushback to that? Of course you can. Because if you Google who is the greatest WNBA player of all time, I guarantee you Diana Taurasi is going to be at the top of the list. Find that out for me. What's my point? She made her mark in college, I think for UConn. Caitlyn's been playing for a year and a half, Adam. Of course she's not the greatest of all time. That's not what I'm asking. What I'm saying is this. Nobody gave a crap about...

Diana Taurasi, because she came out pre-feminism, pre this push for making everything about feminism and femininity and pushing women down our throats. Without them pushing Caitlin Clark and them advertising and marketing and putting her on TV, nobody cares about the WNBA. Diana Taurasi did the exact same thing Caitlin Clark is doing. Shoots threes, makes assists.

And, you know, does her thing. But nobody cared. But now that they're pushing this down our throat, you've got to like the WNBA. You have to watch this. You have to watch this. Now people start caring. Diana Taurasi already did this. She was the Jackie Robinson, so to speak. But now they're doing this with Kaitlyn Clark. And we're supposed to be like, oh, my God, I can't wait for more WNBA. No one cares. Beautiful.

But they're pushing feminism down our throat. And it's the same, by the way, and it's just anything with the words NBA in it, same thing with LeBron James. He's the face. He's anti-cop. He's anti-American. He's pro-China. And how's the NBA doing? How's the NBA doing regular season? Is anybody watching the NBA? Be honest. This guy used to watch it all the time. I don't even remember the last time you even watched a game. When's the last time you actually saw an actual...

Full NBA game. Yeah, for me. That Knicks-Indiana series is going good. In this case, when you look at Taurasi when she came in,

versus Kaitlyn Clark. A part of what Adam is saying is trying to say that the women empowerment is bigger than it's ever been before, and that's why this is going on. I don't know if that's the case. Maybe, maybe not. But the reality of it is I've never seen anybody more exciting as a female basketball player than her. It's got nothing to do with skin because Diana Taurasi is also not black. She's, you know, I don't know what nationality she is. Italian? Taurasi? I don't know. I don't know if she is. I mean, we're in Italy, so. She's a white girl. She's a white girl.

She's white, but where's she from? Diana Taurasi. I don't know. Some people thought she was Indian, and all of a sudden she turned black. I don't know what happened with her. I thought she was... What is she? I thought maybe she was Armenian, but apparently she is... Let me see. Is she Arabic or is she something? I thought she was Armenian. Who cares? Look, I mean, at this point, again, we're moving on, but the reality of it is...

Angel Reese, according to Jameel Hill, is going to be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA. And they lost Kaitlyn Clark. Let's watch some data to see what the WNBA viewership does the next couple weeks. All right, let's go to the next story. Let's go to the next story. Next story I want to go to is...

Jordan Peterson, Rob, if you got this clip, I just want to get your reaction to it. Jordan Peterson, over the last 10 years, has gotten billions of views online. He's one of the most watched influencers. He'll put events together. Thousands of people will show up and pay to watch this man speak. He's had a lot of influence over young men. Wrote 12 Rules for Life that sold millions on top of millions of copies. Has been very successful. Made a lot of money. But they do this Jubilee thing that he sits down with this other youngster.

young man and you know look kudos to anybody that goes here because you're being targeted by 20 people that are all been researching to put you in your place and have an opportunity for video like this that we don't know who you are and all the eyeballs come and you get a bunch of attention right here's him and Jordan Peterson speaking go ahead Rob and play the clip

Is that relevant? Because you go to a Catholic church, don't you? Or you've attended recently. You're interested in Catholicism, aren't you? Sure. All right. Are you familiar with their doctrines? Somewhat. Okay, you're familiar. Their doctrines are very deep. How do they regard Mary? Why are you asking me that? Because you're a Christian. You say that. I haven't claimed that. Oh, what is this? Is this Christians versus atheists?

I don't know. You don't know where you are right now. Don't be a smartass. Well, either you're a Christian or you're not. I won't talk to you if you're a smartass. Either you're a Christian or you're not. Which one is it? I could be either of them, but I don't have to tell you. You don't have to tell me. I was under the impression. I was invited to talk to a Christian. Am I not talking to a Christian?

No, you were invited to... I think everyone should look at the title of the YouTube channel. You're probably in the wrong YouTube video. You're really quite something, you are. Aren't I? But you're really quite nothing. Right? You're not a Christian. Okay, I'm done with him. Wow. What do you think about that? I mean...

If I'm being real, I'm really disappointed. We got a guy who's helped millions to see value and order, discipline, family, tradition, and then you pull back on the one foundation that you come from. Okay? He's lectured on biblical stories like he's Moses, and then the guy just asks you, are you a Christian? There's... I don't care, Catholic...

Protestant, are you a Christian because you've been claiming and you're preaching it that you are? Why have that moment? What are you scared of? Why? Now you've confused the shit. Tommy, am I, you know what I mean? You can't talk about the power of the Bible and logos and Christianity and Jesus Christ and claim all this and then when the

A moment happens, and I think that kid, whoever this kid is, won this freaking debate to where you have to say, I don't want to talk to you anymore. You lose it right there. Why don't you say that you're a Christian? What are you scared of? Well, what's funny is because originally when they uploaded this video on Jubilee, the title was One Christian versus 20 Atheists. Then they changed the title to Jordan Peterson versus 20 Atheists.

Did you get that? Yeah. Okay. You want me to say that one more time? So originally it was one Christian, which is who? Jordan Peterson versus 20 atheists. And then they change it to Jordan Peterson versus 20 atheists because he said, how do you know if I'm a Christian? I mean, that change took place. But Adam, how did you see this between Jordan Peterson and this young kid? Yeah, only in the modern day of the internet and soundbites can a kid who's likely done nothing with his life

nothing with his life, probably in college so far, come in and own one of the greatest philosophers, speakers, doctors of our time, Jordan Peterson. Now, Jordan Peterson probably should have had a better answer. I don't know his religion. It's not for me to comment on. He is who he is. But this kid has gone famous now for owning Jordan Peterson. I would have loved to seen the rest of the discussion. I would love to see if there was any

Productivity of having a conversation like this

But for Jordan Peterson's his entire career to be, you know, stumpled on by this kid who just wants to basically dunk on Jordan Peterson and say you stand for nothing or whatever he said is just sort of testament to where we're living today, where a kid can go famous and viral for basically dunking on a great thinker when a great thinker doesn't necessarily want to argue with a meaningless child. That's how it is.

But you're assuming it, Adam, because Jesus Christ didn't mince words. In Matthew 10, verse 33, he said, But whoever denies me before men would also deny him before my Father who is in heaven. It's not a riddle. It's a line in the sand. You can't play neutral when it comes to Christ. And I don't care what...

moment he's having or how philosophical and yes he's a great mind but jesus christ didn't suffer and die so we could treat faith like a philosophy class because that's not how it is adam either you're all in or you're one of these sideline poop talkers and i'm just not a fan of it tom your thoughts the premise is if he's not a christian then he doesn't know that so no he is a christian but when you're on the spot and you're saying it why not tell him

He says, Tom, your thoughts. So I think Jordan Peterson missed a wonderful opportunity because, you know, what's interesting is if you're going to do a debate with people on anything, right? Anything, you know, baseball people 10 years ago debating about designated hitters. Should it be in both leagues? If you go into a debate on anything at all and you hit the other person on the head, you're going to get nowhere. Right.

And when sharing about faith and when talking about faith, he missed an opportunity because this young man told him what he was thinking. He said, aren't you concerned? Are you familiar with some of the doctrines of Catholicism?

And all you have to say is, yes, I'm a Christian and I understand the teachings of Jesus Christ and I know why I believe them. Can you share with me what your foundation is and why you believe that? That's a non-offensive question asking the other person to level set. And then you can walk into apologetics and talk about the very beautiful message that is present. And there are many examples given in the Bible of how to debate this.

Paul, the Apostle Paul, went to Rome. And when he was in Rome, he walked around and he found an altar. And it was the Romans at that age were very superstitious. They had Roman gods for everything. And they had gods for why there was thunder and why there was rain and all kinds of other things. And he comes up to them. And because they're superstitious, maybe they missed one. They had the thing that said to the tomb, no, an altar to the unknown God. Mm hmm.

So they're saying, and just in case we missed one, we don't want you to be upset. Here's your altar and here's where we are. And he said, might I tell you about one you don't know? And the people were curious and they engaged in debate and they said many understood and believed. So when you have an opportunity like this, I think Jordan Peterson missed the boat because

What is the problem in saying, yes, I'm a Christian, and here's why I believe what I believe. I'm interested in you. Why do you believe what you believe? Let's talk through a couple of these things. Instead, you set it all up, and the curiosity I had was it set up as a kind of an internet debate roundtable to get sparks and to bring on views. I don't know what the premise of it was. I'm not the producer, and I haven't really studied it, but this could have been done so much better

For the benefit of the young man that was sitting there so that he could have understood. Yeah, I have a different opinion. I mean, what did he do most of his career? He did what? He was a professor. He was a teacher.

And what kind of people did he deal with? Exactly like that kid. Think about what he taught. He dealt with kids like that. And he's probably sitting there profiling this kid and is like, dude, what are you talking about? You know how many tens of thousands of conversations I've had with someone like you? However, if you've got a position, take the position. Rob, is this another one clip that happened from the same episode? Yeah, from the same. OK, let's watch this one here.

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What do you mean by believe? Do you believe in the all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good notion of God? What do you mean by believe? You think it to be true. That's the circular definition. What do you mean when you say you believe? How is that circular? Because you added no content to the answer by substituting the word true and believe. I said you think it to be true. All right, so if you believe something, you stake your life on it. What do you mean by that?

You live for it and you die for it. Okay, so you're saying that you don't believe something if you wouldn't die for it? Not really, no. Okay. How would you define belief? Something you say? Can I explain? I could believe it is the case that this pen exists, but if someone threatened my life, I would lie in order to be able to save my life. I think you would do that too. You wouldn't lie to save your life? Don't be so sure. You wouldn't lie to save your life?

How much do you know about me? I didn't lie to save my career. I didn't lie to save my clinical practice. Would you lie to save your children, your mom, your dad? I don't think lying would save them.

Can there ever be a circumstance, logically, that lying could save someone? Yeah, and if you're steeped in sin, you're likely to live in circumstances like that. I'll give you an example. If you're in Nazi Germany, and it is the case that there's Jewish people in your attic, and you're trying to protect them, would you lie to the Nazis? I would have done everything I bloody well could, so I wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. It's a hypothetical, and it's not answerable. You can't answer hypotheticals? No, I can't answer a hypothetical like that, because it's far...

Did you don't play games? I just told you I would do everything that I could to make sure that I'm never in that situation By the time you've got there you've made so many mistakes that there's nothing you can do. That isn't a sin. I

Being born in Nazi Germany and in trying to protect people that you care about like you could there could be a Jewish friend that you have and you want to protect them. I think you should have them in your attic. I think you should just give up on that line of questioning. But like okay again, you're not answering this hypothetical because you know it shows that you clearly would lie to save someone's life. I'm answering it in a manner you don't find acceptable. Obviously because I care about truth. I wouldn't be in that scenario. Obviously right logically because that already happened like that's in the past. You don't have a time to travel device.

I don't get the argument. So wait a minute. The kid is making a point, Pat, by saying, let's say you were a German person in Germany during Nazi Germany, and you're harboring a Jewish family to save them. That's a very hypothetical. But Jordan Peterson's argument is, I would never put myself in that situation. No, he's missing the point completely. He's saying, what if you were that German family? He's not making any sense in that argument. Tom, did you understand the argument he was making?

Yeah, what the kid was trying to do was basically called the sin entrapment. And he's trying to get him to admit that he would lie. And he's also lying is a sin. So you have to lie to do this or that. Whereas you're talking about being faced with great evil.

And if you read in the Old Testament, there is an example of a woman who lied to Pharaoh's hit men and sent them off in the wrong direction so that other people could proceed on God's mission over here.

And so would I have lied about people being in the attic? Yeah, you have Schindler and you have Anne Frank and you have all the stories of everything, what happened over there. And the kid was, I feel like trying to put this in a corner, but then Jordan Peterson was almost kind of losing his composure and losing his patience.

and i i kind of agree what you said a few minutes ago pat it's like i have you you are example number six and i have seen so many of you kids who are example number six and i'm not even gonna listen to it no you know what you know what there's a great verse in the bible and it says how jesus put his hand on a man and it said jesus sighed because he was tired but you know what he did that day he still did what he was intended to do and he healed the guy but it said he sighed and you could just see him going

be healed. It means he was tired and there's a lot going on in life. And what I think is going on there, it appeared that Jordan Peterson was out of, out of patience. Uh, you kind of lost his composure a little bit. And at a, at a time where you really need to call on the peace of God so that you can present these things to people who are doubters and see if you can win, you know, a, not win a point. You're not, it's not about winning or losing, but maybe, maybe,

bring them to a level of understanding or bring something forward to them because they came in armed to kind of point you in one or two directions. And guess what? That's fine. Adam, your thoughts. So, you know, Jordan Peterson, this moral question of whether you should lie or,

to save a life, whether you're in Nazi Germany or whether you're in modern-day America, preserving life and saving a life overrides all other perceived sins by far. So to me, it's not even a question. Yes, you lie, cheat, and steal to save your kid's life, to save your wife's life, to save your own life.

It's a non-starter for me. Yes, you lie in that case. Just like Oscar Schindler lied thousands of times to save thousands of lives. It's a non-question to me. As far as what Jordan Peterson is doing, I don't know if this is a good look for him or a bad look. I think...

It's an obvious bad look for someone who's basically made a name for himself over decades to basically be dismantled by a group of young, pompous, freaking atheists.

Cool. But then on the bright side, there's going to be an entire new audience of teenagers and 20-somethings who go, who is this guy, Jordan Peterson? And they're going to find out about his books, and they're going to find out about his speeches. They're going to find out about what he believes. So he almost needs to, in my humble opinion, reinvent himself for the modern Gen Z culture, because everyone who is in their 30s and above has heard of Jordan Peterson, in my perception. So

Jordan is a very smart but also emotional man. I've seen him cry on camera too many times to mention.

PVD, I know you've had an experience with this. So I don't know what he's dealing with right now, but he's one of the greats. He's one of the GOATs, especially in the modern internet podcast culture. And I wish him the best. But the question was, Adam, twice. And yes, these are atheists. And number one, you know what you're getting into. You don't go to a wedgie contest and then you get a wedgie and you're like, what the hell is going on? He's going to a debate.

With atheists. And if you're going to claim you're a Christian, he'll say things like, I act as if God exists. I'm afraid he might exist. That's not a confession of faith. That's a hedge bet. And I'm sorry I'm not trying to be preacher guy. You know what I mean? I'm not talking the talk. I'm walking the walk. And I'm trying to live that life. And I'm trying to be a better person. If you're going to be that guy, say it. Admit it. Okay? I'm a Christian and that's it, Tom. There's no if, ands, or what's about. I'm not as knowledge as you. I'm not as smart and uneducated.

you know, philosophical as Jordan Peterson, but Adam, this isn't a sideline thing, bro. When it comes to Christ, you're either all in, if you believe in him, and you are a Christian, either you're all in or you're not. There's none of this, oh, well, these people, I'm going to hang out with them, I'm going to be over here. No, it's not that, Pat. What do you think? Yeah, no, to me, he looks upset, he looks agitated, he looks...

annoyed. And by the way, it happens to many of us when you're sitting in a place like that and you're not going to be a robot. Even when Trump was asking the question, saying, hey, so what are you going to be doing if Putin doesn't listen? You think I'm going to tell you? You think I'm going to tell you fake news? Nobody hears a machine and a robot. However, in a situation like that, when you're sitting with someone and your mind trying to debate an atheist, I don't know how long it's going to take for this guy to realize it. Because typically, faith is a

experience of life some things happening to you and going through a journey i mean you saw a story recently that talks about joe rogan's been going to church beautiful joe rogan's been going to church yeah joe rogan's been going to church you know you i think the this happened after you know west huff you know you were telling me yesterday with ex-atheist joe rogan makes major life changes after revelations on podcast sparks resurgence of christianity um how did that happen

Did that happen accidentally? Did that happen to a 22-year-old man? You think Joe's had a lot of deep conversations with a lot of powerful people around the world and met...

A lot of weird people. You think the best podcast Joe Rogan's ever done are the podcasts that you've seen on Spotify or Apple or YouTube? No. The best podcast Joe Rogan's ever done were never recorded, were never televised, were never put on an outfit. You don't think he's had enough people that are on the atheist side try to convince him otherwise? Why is he not looking at it at this age? He's had the most money he's ever had.

It's not like he is going through something. He's famous. He's got money. He's family. Everything's good. And you're going through that. So this process...

of a person thinking they know it all when they're 23 years old coming out of college getting a tattoo that says whatever on it with the little you know i don't know if you saw that little fatty that had a tattoo there you know you see you see these types of things that happen and you're like you know what one day i'm going to grow out of it i never forget i'm at my army unit i'm i'm there at the tattoo shop about to get a tattoo of a cobra on my chest yes and i'm like

man i want to get this cobra why do you want to get a cobra because my unit at 228 uh for jackson was called the cobras and i was going to cost you 200 i'm like dude i only got 80 i can't do it you realize if i had an additional 120 dollars i would have had a cobra tattooed on my chest i would have been sick that would have not been sick i would have been sitting explaining myself why i want to slither that yeah but you know you know what the moral of the story is when you're young

You do some dumb shit and you think you know it all. And sometimes it takes life to really beat the living crap out of you to grow up and say, maybe I got to start looking at some of this stuff. Maybe I have to realize that, you know, how did this kid happen?

This is a full-on miracle. Go watch a couple deliveries and see what takes place and what God does. Go through life and experience some of the things you realize. Maybe I don't know it all, man. Maybe this whole thing about the only thing I know is that I know nothing. The more you're growing up, I think Socrates said that on his deathbed, if I'm not mistaken. We're all learning. We're all getting better, just like these 20 people, as well as Jordan Peterson. He's also going through it as well. And who knows what he's going through? But this definitely, when you do something like this,

I don't know if losing your cool... By the way, you know how simple this could be? We had a rule in our office. Say you're giving a speech today to 50 people that are coming to us to do business with us. Say Adam's giving a speech. You know what the rule was? What? Whoever's the speaker that's speaking to guests and clients today, no one go tell him bad news before he hits the stage.

We had a basic rule. Like, let's just say something very bad happened. It's like, don't go. Why did you give him bad news? And then he gets on stage and he's pissed off. Something bad could have happened literally 30 minutes before he went in there. They pissed him off and mom called him, wife called him, somebody called him and he got pissed off. Going in there like, you know what, what the fuck? And then he puts it on those people. No one knows. Anyways, you're a professional. You should be above it. Let's move to the next story. I think, Adam, you were going to ask something?

I just want to get, I know this will go real quick, but one of the greatest things PBD has ever done to me is say, Adam, get closer to God. And whatever religion you are, you know, I love what you say about

Getting married is hard. Not getting married is riskier, is harder. Not having kids is risky. Not having kids is riskier. Not following God is risky. Not believing in God is riskier. My question is this, because I've moved in this direction. I've seen Vinny move in this direction, and I know Tom has changed lives. For followers of Christ, my question is this.

Remember when I went to Jerusalem and I went to the Armenian church? Yep. And I sent you those videos, and I got you the gifts from Jerusalem, from the Armenian church. It had me thinking. I said, man, like, all right, what's the difference between the Armenian church and the Vatican and the Roman Catholic church and Eastern Orthodox church?

And, you know, I went to high school in Miami and it was a Presbyterian high school. And then I have friends who are Mormon and Protestant, evangelical, Lutheran, Methodist, Anglican. These are just the names I'm thinking of. Jehovah's Witness in Egypt. There's Coptic Christians, Anglican Baptists. Isn't it all just you have to be a follower of Christ if you're a Christian? Why are there so many different sects to Christianity? You're asking me the question?

I'm asking just the general question is maybe Jordan Peterson isn't a quote-unquote Christian. He's just a believer in God. So that's my question to the group. What's the difference with all these religions, and does it have to be partitioned into all these different segments?

Aren't you just supposed to be a follower of Christ? Isn't that the whole conversation? I think now you're going to, you know, we believe the baptism is under what we believe it's with the drop of the water. No, we believe it's this and we believe it's these things.

you know, changes that they make on small things that they add. Some of them have more rituals than others and there's a very much of a high retention rate to a organization that causes their members to have rituals versus those who don't because if it's rituals, you're thinking about it more than

Another faith is thinking about it. So the other faith that's not thinking about it, the other sect that's not thinking about it as much, they're not as disciplined. And if you notice Muslims, you know, no matter what's going on, they're praying. Some of them are praying God knows how many times a day. That forces you to be more disciplined, to be thinking about your God, to be thinking about your faith.

So that's a whole different topic. That's a two, three-hour podcast that I don't think it's something we need to get into. But maybe that's what Jordan Peterson was thinking is don't define me by a specific label. I get that. But if you're sitting with that audience, you have to sit there and like let's just say if I sat down and there's 20 of the guys and we're talking business.

Well, you know, capitalism, all they care about is this. Have you ever started a business? I have. How many employees do you have? Who has ever quit on you, stolen from you? Nobody ever. You haven't ever built a business yet. You're small. So you're kind of going through that moment of conversation versus who, do you have a job? Yes. Who pays you? Boom. What company is it? Boom. Who was the founder? You think they lost, let's go look them up right now. You think that person went through a divorce? You think that person went through some challenges? Boom.

I think it's got to be that giving the perspective versus automatically jumping to conclusion, losing patience to not allow them to be sitting there saying, wow, you know, what a, I like the way he handled me that he got me to think about it. You know, it's like that one video. What is that one video we show where this man keeps going to this man that's talking about Jesus loves you. Shut the

Have you guys ever seen this clip? With the black guy? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Homeless guy on the street. Did we show this on a podcast a couple weeks ago? I don't remember. Rob, did we show this on a podcast? Oh, my God. You have to see this thing. I almost don't want to even show it because he's disrespecting him the entire time. Does he use some choice words, Vinny? I don't know.

I think he used some choice. He does a couple, but they might have bleeped it out. I'm helping to look. So yeah, it's. And then all of a sudden you see he asks him, hey man, can I just pray for you? Pray for you. Can I just pray for you? You mind if I pray for you? Let me pray for you. And it's silent. And then eventually the white man is probably in his mid-50s, the mid-40s. I don't know how old he is. He looks a little bit younger. You showed me this clip. If you can't find it, maybe Humberto's texting us saying that he found it.

Let me see if that's the one that he's texting. No. If you find it, we'll show it. You texted to me somewhere, but it was great. Anyways, the moral of the story is at the end of it, the guy says, can I just pray for you? And he says, you know what? I appreciate that. No one's. I appreciate the fact that you just dropped a prayer for me. It was a great exercise. Anyways. Okay. If you find it, we'll show it. If not, I'm going to move on to the next story. Next story here.

is George Floyd. So very, very interesting. Another target boycott called this Sunday to honor George Floyd in a prayerful protest. Reverend Dr. Jamal Bryan announced a national target boycott

on May 25th to honor the fifth anniversary of George Floyd's murder leading to a nine-minute, 29-second prayer gathering at Conyers, Georgia, Target, stating its national act of unity through faith. Twenty other faith leaders will hold similar protests at Target stores across multiple states following Target's rollback DI program. Rob, is this a clip? Before you clip it, let me give some stats here to everybody that's watching this. Target has faced declining sales.

with a 3.1% revenue drop in Q4 and a 2.8% decline in Q1 of 2025, driven by a 6% fall in comparable sales with a 4.8% decrease in store visits,

per Placer.ai. Brian's target, Fast.org, claiming 200,000 supporters demanding Target reinstate $2 billion in black-owned product purchases and fully restore DEI. As he told CNN, we're not going to spend our dollars where we're not honored. Rob, go ahead and play this clip. That's what I'm doing. Jesus, we have a victory.

Yeah, it reflects America moving backwards, away from equality for all people. Five years ago, the CEO of Target said that George Floyd could be one of his employees. And with no pressure, made a pledge of $2 billion. That doesn't look like R. Kelly to you? My mind. Away from diversity, equity, and inclusion is a stark contrast from where we were five years ago. To give your name the glory.

Keep us on target. It was very important to me. The pastor declared he had a vision to what was supposed to take place. That vision didn't happen. We stand on business. We stand on God's promise. We stand on the word. We're not going back. We're going forward.

We are like the number one consumers and spenders. I myself fall in that category. You can pause that one there, Rob. Tom, your thoughts on this. I honestly, but listen, I'm not trying to be offensive. I thought it was R. Kelly for a second. He got out. I thought he wasn't doing time. Apparently, it's a pastor. God bless you. Go ahead, Tom. He reminded you of R. Kelly. Yeah, he reminded me of R. Kelly. Go ahead. So I'll start with Target, and I'll make that short and sweet.

They managed this horribly from DEI to George Floyd. And then they had all the conservative people mad because they had all these. Remember those the trans wear for small children of the bathing suits that were girls bathing suits for boys that featured a pouch for tucking all that stuff that

flipped out the conservative and the family audience because that stuff was there and they said we're boycotting you and they went the other way in dei and then when they walked back to ei all the people in favor of the i came back and said now we're upset with you and we're boycotting you so bad management and bowing to public pressure and and and things like that puts you in a bad place that's target now i'm going to talk about the uh the people gathering together there

I think it was beautiful that they gathered together peacefully. I think it was beautiful that they're using freedom of speech to make their point. I think it was beautiful that they had their pastor there. Now,

You know, you can't criticize one group's boycott and holding prayer service and then condemn another group's boycott and holding a prayer service, right? Even though they may be a little different. And I think what this comes out is we need a national act of unity on parenting. We need a national act of unity on communities living together without artificial things like DEI trying to force issues.

And I know people are going to say, well, you're a white guy. You get to say that. No, no, I can say that. I can say it would be better in America if we all came together in a spirit of unity and starting with churches. And, you know, I think would be a great place to start that. And I think Target, you know, really blew it, you know, bowing to one side or the other. And these people are getting together and they're standing for their side peacefully. Freedom of speech. I didn't see

anything crazy there. And so they're boycotting and other people are boycotting. But

Our national unity needs to be to go upstream and get to the root causes. What was going on with George Floyd? What was going on with fentanyl? What was going on with men without fathers? These are the things that we need to come together and find unity because in our diversity of thought, we will find unity of purpose in wanting to make things better and raise better citizens along the way. Adam, your thoughts?

So the conversation that we need to have, especially for my friends in the black community, is the conversation around the hero making machine, which you've touched on timeless times. George Floyd was not a hero. He was not a legend. He was not a champion of any particular cause, especially any cause that affects the black community.

What he was is a poster child for perceived victimhood or perceived police brutality. My hope and prayer for my friends in the black community is stop perpetuating the same two or three career paths as the heroes.

The black community will succeed, in my opinion, when they do this. Stop putting athletes, ballers, and rappers as the people to look up to in life. When you start putting people like

businessmen, thinkers, doctors, physicists, lawyers, teachers, anyone who's actually got a degree and done something with their life or started a business and has improved the community, that is the time that you'll see your community succeed. I want nothing in life more than as American to see people who have been wronged in the past to basically say,

uh rise up and be the greatest they can possibly be that includes having more black fathers in the home i have a lot of black friends a lot of black people that i'm that amazing friends of mine i want nothing more than them see them succeed and i will start with the father in the home and the hero making machine being um elevated to a better extent by the way this is a mayor rob is this the funeral is this the five-year

This is the funeral of George Floyd. This is not the five-year. No, this is at the funeral where he breaks down and cries. Where he breaks down and cries. I mean, it's a spectacle. It's what it is. It's not necessarily anything that the mayor is crying with his mask on. Yeah, so Vinny, what are your thoughts on the story here with Target? To be honest with you, I don't have a crazy opinion of it. It's just the whole situation. And I've said this how many times? You would never have heard George...

None of us in this room or the entire world, no BLM, no nothing. None of it happens if George Floyd wasn't a piece of crap as a human being for all the stuff that he did. Robbing people's houses with a bunch of guys with a pregnant woman, holding a gun to her, doing all the stuff, high on drugs, trying to pass a fake 20 at that place. He never would have met Derek Chauvin if he wasn't a piece of you know what. That's

at the end of the day, be a good person. And again, Adam, you nailed it too. It starts at the home. It starts with freaking being raised the right way. Even though society, it promotes that single mother, you could do it all by yourself and all that nonsense and trying to destroy the nuclear family. It's all on purpose. It's trying to make everybody reliable on the freaking government. And when you want to talk about murders, Tom, what's the number one murderer of black people? And you've talked about this before and you brought her name up. Who started the whole thing?

Oh, you want to go? You're going to really quick. Please. Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood. Yep. How many children? How many black children does that thing freaking murder every single year? It's never been greater than 16. The African-American community is not crossed yet.

To my memory, 16% of the population, but it consistently rides at 40 to 42% of the annual abortions. Let that sink into everybody. So when people want me to cry and bend the knee and burn the entire country down because of one scumbag who was high on drugs, I'm not buying it, Pat. Well, listen, this message is brought to you guys by Trojan Condoms.

Look, without even taking any money from them, I want to say go use their product because, you know, even last minute when you get excited, you still got to find one. Sometimes we got to run down the store to 7-Eleven. We can find something. There's 7-Elevens everywhere. They're everywhere. You got to go protect yourself because we got to lower that 42% to 16%, 13%. Okay, let's go to a real story. Guys, I mean, you know, we all fight. We all have issues with our spouses and things happen. But I swear to God,

If your wife smacked you upside the head the way Macron's husband and Macron's wife hit him, this is inappropriate. And if he's watching this, this is very inappropriate. You don't behave like this. When the world is watching, watch this here. Watch this here, what happened. The best part about this is how many people have made spoofs of this with blonde hair, with wigs being thrown, all this other stuff. Rob, go and watch this clip. Watch this clip here. Go for it.

Oh! Hey! Oh, is this slow motion? Is this slow motion? Wait, you opened the door too early. Oh! Two hands. Hi, everybody. Hey, what you doing? Look, he's rubbing his face. And now look at this. Does he walk? Does she walk? Yeah. Look at those shoulders, bro. Look at that guy. Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Bro. If I was Macron, I would have kicked him in the nuts.

What was that, though? What do you think happened there, Vinny? Do you think it's just a fight between a couple? You think that's all that was? Like, what happened there? What did they say, Rob? What has been said, the feedback on what happened there? Well, what they said, well, Macron brushed it off, and he said that he was joking around with his wife.

And he said people were overreacting, calling it geo-planetary catastrophe. And by the way, his team claimed initially that the video was fake. Did you guys know that? Just like CNN with deep fakes with Joe Biden falling over the place. But then he admitted it was real but harmless. And Brigitte didn't take his arm after, as you guys saw, walking all stiff. But I mean, guys, let's just...

Let's remember. Are you going to believe anything that these people say? Be honest with yourself. Because if allegedly all the reports, especially with everything that we've heard, which has ruined them, they met when he was 15 and she was 40 years old. Okay? I think...

That she has been abusing him his entire freaking life since he was underage and a freaking child. And could you imagine being exposed as much as they've been exposed? I mean, it's bad. What kind of conversations are happening there? You know what he, she is saying? How... I'm assuming. How...

Dare you you let people like Candace Owens get this to a point where she he she he You know what? I'm talking about can't even walk around cuz you know guys put yourself in shims feet and shoes for high heels or sneakers when they're at the house and

Everybody's looking at them in France, and the talk of the town is that that is a man. That is the talk of the town. So could you imagine the conversations that Brigitte is saying, saying, Emmanuel, you're the president. You couldn't have paid more. You couldn't have offered more or done more to shut up these voices for what's happening. Do you have any opinions on this? I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. I just know. All right, let's go to the next story then.

My last word is it's a bad look. It was a bad look and it's poorly explained. Who's ever done that, Pat? Have you ever seen that? Adam, you seem like you have a lot of opinions on this. Yeah. Strong opinions. Strong shoulders. It encapsulates what France is at this point. It's a young French dude getting dominated by an alleged transgender... Older French dude. Dude.

Exactly. So any real man would not play this game. We've all been in relationships, you get in arguments. To put your hands on your husband's face to slap him around and he's like, "Hey, hello, hello. Good to see everybody." It encapsulates exactly not only what's going on in that relationship,

But in that country, if you're telling me that someone's together, there's a 25 year age difference. I'll say, OK, how much older is he than her? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's the younger guy. What? It makes completely no sense to me. Yeah. But this is what the French people elected. Would you have respected him more if he slapped back? Would you have liked it? Like, let's just say the same thing happens.

He hits, what's her name? Brigitte. Brigitte hits him, and then you see him backhanding Brigitte. Would you have respected him more if he swung back? 1,000%? Yeah. Yeah.

First of all, I wouldn't want to have seen that, but I'm waiting for the memes. What if it's kind of like... You always do the last line before we get off the plane. I'm being serious with you guys. So let's just change it for a second. Look, many years ago, Dana White had an incident. Dana White had an incident at a bar on December 31st, whatever it was, New Year's Eve. I don't know if you remember that. Of course, at the nightclub? He even reacted to it. But then it was bam, bam. Quick. Right? It was bam, bam. It was like one, one. Would you...

Would you have respected Macron more if he swung back? Yes, because I believe that that's a dude. So guess what? If two fellas want to get it on. We don't need to play that, Rob. I'm just saying. I'm saying yes, especially if, which I believe in my heart of hearts, that that's a dude. I'll punch him back, dog. Like, yo, homie. No, but that's not it. I'll let you eat the last cookie before we get off the plane. Let's just say if it is a lady. Let's say if it is. It's a strong-shouldered lady. But let's just say if it is a lady. If it is a lady.

Would you have said, okay, he at least protected himself or no, he shouldn't put hands on her? To block it? I would have definitely blocked it by me punching her. It's not even a fair fight because even if it's a dude, it's a little bit. No, you're blocking constraint. You don't co-cock a woman. You're blocking constraint. All right. Men are bigger, stronger. He's a dude. But if you knew that Brigitte is a man in that half. Pat, I'm just...

I'm doing like an elbow. Off the top rope. No, no, no. I'm doing dental work. I'm telling you. We got a little out of control here. It was just an innocent question. The answer is no. Yeah. All right. Unless you're John Connery. All right. Sounds good. Well, listen, Adam, I'm glad you said what you said. Give a woman a little crack. Let me go to this Ron DeSantis story. Where's this Ron DeSantis story? It says page six, but I'm on six and I don't see it.

Is it seven? Rob, can you tell me where the Ron DeSantis story is? I do not see it on page six. Oh, okay, let me go. Page five it is. Okay. So Ron DeSantis seemingly met with You Suck Chance at Florida's WWE event.

At WWE, I don't know if this, okay, Saturday night main event at Tampa's Young Link Center, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis faced apparent crowd hostility with a viral video promoting an ex-user to post. Governor DeSantis just showed up, and the crowd started booing him and chanting, you suck. There's no way that's him. Go ahead and play this rap. You suck. You suck. You suck. You suck. You suck. You suck. You suck.

No, that's not, Rob. There's no way. What was happening prior to that? There's no way he walked in and they booed him. You suck. Are you guys following, Tom? Yeah, yeah. What was happening in the ring? I want a wide shot of the whole arena, what was going on there. I mean, was this a, like a, when things like this happen, I've heard that at wrestling or boxing events, passers-by,

pat or an undercard or it's a split decision and the you suck that's meant for the refs you know i'm talking about i want to see the wide shot of the arena what else was going on there is this really reacting to the walk-in by wrong to sanis or is there something else going on rob what's this

This is a different angle. Yeah, this is a different angle. And you can see the ring. It doesn't look like there's any action happening inside the ring at the time. And when you watch, you can see the TV guys are going towards Ron DeSantis. They want to do that if there's a match going on inside the ring. Let me see it. You suck! You suck! You suck!

I mean, but it is a wrestling crowd. I hadn't seen him in this angle before. I'd only seen the isolated. Well, listen, maybe it's the audience trying to like christen him into the whole, yeah, we're wrestling and you suck. Like, I don't know. Rob, go to chat GBT and ask the question, were fans booing Ron DeSantis when he walked into the WWE arena? Let's see, because I'm sure this has been asked so many times by different people. I'm sure they have the data on it. Let's see what they say.

Yeah, screaming you suck when he walked into the room. No, no, you have to put you suck because can you just stop that search and just add the you suck to it? The keyword is you suck. I don't want to keep saying that phrase, but I just like if you can yelling you suck. Yeah, there you go. You suck. Yeah, there you go. All right, let's see this here. Let's see what our friends at ChatGBT will say about this event taking place. Yes. Oh, shit.

I'm trying to give him grace here. During WWE's Saturday mainline, the Youngling Center, Florida come around and met with booze and chants of you suck from the crowd as their peer rings out with his children. The reception was notably hostile with attendees making their disapproval clear. This incident adds to a pattern of right-wing figures receiving negative reactions at WWE events. For instance, Hulk Hogan was similarly booed by his own again on Monday night around January despite WWE. Got it. Well, I don't know about that, but...

The biggest awkward thing, Adam, here for me, and I'll come to you as the following, is you know how in life there's levels? There's levels to any game you play. There's levels to being good with girls. There's levels to being good with playing poker. There's levels to being good at backgammon. There's levels to having knowledge on cigars. There's levels to being a bodybuilder. There's levels to wealth. There's levels to fame, okay?

It's such a bad look to walk into an arena thinking he's going to get the reaction that Trump did.

It's just a bad look because you are not Trump. You're just not. And the more you try to do that, if you ever read the book 40 Laws of Power or 33 Strategies of War or if you read The Prince, I don't know if he's ever read these books. He needs to go read these books. For the next three months, take time off and just read like 20 of these books I would recommend you to go through. You don't try to come and shine...

while the greatest promoter of all time as a president is in the White House right now, you think you're going to get the same reaction as him? It's a very, very bad look in my opinion. I was trying to give grace thinking there's no way in the world that happened. It was two other wrestlers in there until Rob, who apparently is an anti-DeSantis guy, I didn't even know that, jumps in. But Adam, your thoughts on this?

I think we got it all wrong here, guys. I mean, we all remember when they were all shouting F Joe Biden and they interpreted it as let's go, Brandon. So in my humble opinion at this wrestling match, which I think Logan Paul was wrestling, I want to say, they were saying you're up, not you suck. They wanted the great governor Ron DeSantis of Florida to wrestle Brandon

Logan Paul. They said, you're up, you're up, you're up. They wanted him to be a fighter, not a bootlicker. And they wanted him to get the ring and not be the heel. Okay, Tom, your thoughts on this because Adam's being silly right now. I was actually asking you a sincere question. You know what, I'm going to follow up on this. Tell me. I'm going to ignore the last 42 seconds it ever happened in world history and I'm going to go to your point.

And your point is clear. How many times have we seen, Pat, like businesses come to Bet David Consulting or they come to the vault and they say, hey, my competitor did this. Should I do this? And we always ask them, why do you want to do that? Why?

Is that their positioning? Is that your positioning? Are you showing your difference? Are you showing their difference? Are you trying to have your next innovative campaign and do something? Copycatting rarely works, whether it's commercials, whether it's political stunts, it rarely works.

You've seen situations where they tried to copy. I remember when Al Gore in 2000, this goes back 24 years ago, 25 years ago. I remember when Alan Tipper, who told this big lie that the movie and the book Love Story, Eric Siegel wrote, was based on him and Tipper. That's

Where do I begin to tell a story of how greater love can be? Avoiding the draft because my dad took care of me. That was actually really good. Good job, Tom. Maybe it was about Al Gore. Hell, maybe I'm the one that's wrong here. So basically, they were doing this kiss at the end of their rallies.

And the kiss became bigger. And then he started like dipping her. Like, you know, the way, you know, the first kiss, you know, you have a first dance with your bride, you know, at the dance reception, you give her a little dip and a kiss and everybody applauds and she dances with her dad and all that kind of stuff. So you don't run the other guy's playbook. If you want to be different, you don't run the other guy's copycat playbook anytime in marketing. And I think that's what DeSantis just did. And,

That kind of stuff doesn't work. Whether they're yelling or not, it's the wrong playbook. By the way, that would have been, I will tell you, Tom, I was in a complete different setting, and he did come out, and he did get that kind of reception. Dana never walked out with him, but he was somewhere, comedy or something that was going on, that he walked out, and he did get that kind of reception. You know when it was? At the peak of COVID.

Because at the peak of COVID, people loved the work that he was doing. Something happened after the way he handled himself in the 2024 election, trying to be a president that completely took away all the great work he did during COVID. Being the best, the greatest governor in all of America, being the standard of how to handle COVID.

In my opinion, he crushed it, and hopefully he will hire a different marketing team if he hasn't already. Who knows? Maybe they've been fired 17 times, and there's new people coming in left and right that we don't even know about. All right, let's continue to the next story here. Rob, the next story I want to go to is it's got to do a little bit with Chris Cuomo, what he said recently, but maybe I'm going to take a different angle with this. So

I'm watching this show, you know, and obviously we heard about the tragic event that took place last week with Muslim killing a Christian and a Jew, I believe, at the Israeli embassy. Originally, they thought they were both going to be Jewish, but they were not. One of them was a Christian. One of them was Jewish. And then Chris Cuomo came out and had some thoughts to share about this. Rob, go on and play this clip. Go for it. Democrats, my brothers and sisters, I understand why you're worried about Trump.

I understand why you call him an ultimate evil, but I don't agree. And if you want the ultimate evil, look at the Islamists, the extreme ones in America, not just Muslims. And mind your dogs who are doing their bidding. What am I talking about? Look online to the reaction. Americans calling the terrorist a hero again, saying he, like the healthcare CEO murderer, was justified in violence.

It's the same thing I've heard in Iraq and Afghanistan, but now echoing from Indiana. This is not a one-off. It's just one more of what we choose to ignore. You remember that Islamist who drove a pickup truck with an ISIS flag attached through Bourbon Street, killing 14 people, injuring dozens and dozens more?

You know he's a citizen from Texas, right? And we used to see that as an irony, right? Wow, from Texas. That's like the last place you'd expect a Muslim extremist from, right? Wrong. Texas is ground zero for what I'm talking about. Did you know there's a push to create an Islamic residential development there? A thousand homes, K through 12, faith-based school, a mosque, shops, insular community. What's wrong with that? Everything.

Here, we assimilate. Here, the struggle is to remove the distinctions, the melting of the melting pot. That's what we're trying to reduce. The religious leader pushing for the project has openly admired the Muslim Brotherhood. Who are they? I'll tell you. Openly defended Hamas's killing of innocent civilians on October 7th.

The developers initially advertised that the community would limit sales to only persons we believe will contribute to the overall makeup of our community. Meaning who? Reports say 75% of the housing fees will go to finance alone. So you see Chris going very hard on this right here. And it's interesting the position he's taken with what happened there. And then you and I are sitting there watching this one host. His name is Malik Maktabi.

I think originally his family's from Isfahan, Iran. He's in Lebanon doing a show that, I don't know what the show is called. It could be his name. But it's a show where he does some controversial interviews. LBCI. LBC International. What is LBC? Lebanese Broadcasting Corporation International. And he's interviewing this young girl. If you watch this interview, he's interviewing this young girl.

And Vinny, I don't know if you've seen this or not. He's interviewing this younger Rob. I don't know if you have the clip or not. It's a young girl he's interviewing who is maybe 13 years old. She could be 13 years old. And the question comes about about her fiance that she's married. And he's straight up going and asking these tough questions. Is this the one, Rob? Yeah, there's another one. Zoom in a little one. Okay. Can I see if this is the one? Can you refresh this real quick to see if this is the one?

Let me see this one. Okay, yeah, this is the one. Play this clip. Okay, watch this, folks. A little weird, a little weird, but watch this. Audio. Go for it. No. Who dropped you out of school? My fiancé. Ahmed. My fiancé.

I don't want to let her loose. How old are you? I'm 10 years old. She's 25 years old. He's 25 years old. He's 25 years old. She's 10 years old.

And by the way, just so you guys know, the interviewer, Rob, just so everybody knows it, this is what makes it very interesting. The interviewer, if you go look up who he is, Rob, Malik Maktabi. Can you ask what religion is Malik Maktabi? Okay. No, Rob, you just fully butchered the last name. It's M-A-K-T-A-B-I. M-A-K-T-A-B-I. What religion is he? Just go to his Wikipedia. Go to his Wikipedia if you could. Zoom out a little bit.

Okay, so zoom out a little bit, zoom in a little bit so I can read it, Rob. Yeah, so Beirut is a television presenter known for his show Amer Bilhat Al-Rid, Red and Bold Face.

And if you go through reading about him, he is himself, I believe, a Muslim interviewing these things. So you're hearing what, you know, Chris is saying. Hey, we can't. This cannot happen in America. This cannot happen over here. That cannot happen over here. Vinny, what is your thoughts when you're hearing Chris, you know, we're watching this clip, a 10-year-old man.

Fiance, 25 years old, in Lebanon. These are very strange stories when you hear about it. What's your position with this? First of all, I am...

Beyond uncomfortable about that I sent Rob another one, Pat An updated, like a newer one Version of a girl And her age I think that's Adam Adam, you're rustling your papers I just sent one, Adam About a 13-year-old girl Her name is Wee Am 13-year-old With a 29-year-old And they asked She said The girl, she can't say no It's against her culture Rob, do you have the one That I just sent you? That's it, Rob Pat, look at this poor girl Yeah, I saw this Look at her Oh, that drives me crazy

same show same show what annoys you the most i didn't finish my studies she's 13 years old pull him out of school for a reason yeah look at her look at her life ruined right you can pause yeah pause okay and here's my thing and i'm that actually makes it hard for me to talk but and i want people to understand this this isn't

All Muslims are bad people and I know a lot of people out there are gonna I'm gonna get the messages and I can give a shit Okay, but Islam as an ideology is rooted in original texts and traditions that that include Extreme conditions especially to women and children. Okay, we're not talking about people. We're talking about the foundation All right, anytime I criticize another country's leader or government they automatically I get a blanket over the entire people Okay, but lick it let's go to the truth. Okay, and I don't care who you are out there. It's

If that doesn't bother you, there's something wrong with you. Okay? However you're programmed is wrong. Okay? And I'm going to go back to Muhammad. He married Aisha when she was six. Okay? Constantly the marriage when she was nine. Okay? Muhammad was in his 50s. I do believe, Rob, you can fact check me if I'm wrong. That's not fringe. That's mainstream Islamic culture.

teaching, okay? And it's still being justified just today as you're seeing right there in that freaking video with the girl whose life is destroyed for the rest of her life, all right? Now fast forward to this and we're seeing this where they're ruined. She can't say no because it's against her culture, okay?

And then, when you're talking about these cities and all this stuff, Pat, slowly but surely, that culture is shaped in Sharia law, which is based in the Quran and the Hadiths. H-A-D-I-T-H-S. Same text, okay? And let's walk through the Sharia law because, guys, at the end of the day, say what you want. Look what's happening in Europe, okay? Look what's happening. Sharia law. Child marriage?

In many Islamic countries, ready? Child marriage is legal. You guys are seeing it. Iran, Yemen, Afghanistan, parts of Nigeria. Why? Because the prophet did. That's the defense, okay? Under Sharia law, a woman's testimony in court is worth half of a man's. Marital rape is not recognized as a crime.

Apostasy, leaving Islam is punishable by death. Blasphemy against the Prophet Muhammad, you'll get killed. Remember who was the guy, Tom, that drew the thing about Muhammad? Charlie Hebdo? Yep. And what happened to that guy?

Magazine. Yeah, homosexuality punished by death. And it's like these aren't isolated events anymore. It's systemic. It's rooted in doctrine. And it's protected by law and repeated generation after generation. So to answer your question, Pat, that right there drives me insane. You know, remember we talk about and you challenge us a lot. You always question and you ask, what sword are you willing to die on? What hill are you willing to die on? That right there drives me insane. It disgusts me. And I'll be damned, me, to hell if anything.

Any religion or anybody is going to try to come to this country and do that shit and try to change this country and shift it to what that is because that can't happen. How do you fight it? Because when you watch this clip from 10 years ago...

Rob, if you want to play this clip for the audience to see. This is 10 years ago from UAE Foreign Minister H.H. Sheikh. Abdullah bin Zayed warned Europe of what would have happened if they continued down their path of suicidal altruism by inviting dangerous fanatics into their nations. They should have listened. This is 10 years ago, folks. Watch this. Go for it. And let me say this in English so you can understand what I'm saying. I have translation. No, I know you have translation, but I just want to make sure you get it right.

There will come a day that we will see far more radical extremists and terrorists coming out of Europe because of lack of decision making, trying to be politically correct or assuming that they know the Middle East and they know Islam and they know the others far better than we do. And I'm sorry, but that's pure ignorance.

You watch this, right? And then you see Tommy Robinson yesterday. He comes out of jail. First of all, Tommy Robinson doesn't look like Tommy Robinson. He looks like he hasn't shaved for a while. Here's Tommy. He's out. Right after being out of prison, you see the prison is right behind him. And he's being asked the question. Look what he says. And this is in UK. It was once the financial capital of the world. Go ahead, Rob. Unfortunately, in a country that doesn't believe in free speech, being a citizen journalist...

Right.

I have to say thank you to Elon Musk, because without X, if we didn't have X, everyone would just think I lied. No one would have got any other narrative. Fortunately, I think, what was it, 167 million people saw the truth. So that gagging order, these attempts at censorship, to silence, to cancel people, it hasn't worked.

You've attempted to look up the truth, and that truth has been echoed around the entire globe. It couldn't have been any more successful. I knew exactly what I was doing when I released it. And he's run across outside that train. Still, by the way, just got out, Pat, for talking the shit that he went in for, and he's still talking it. Adam, your thoughts? Well, I only have one person to blame for what's going on in the world right now, and that is white Christian tolerance issues.

I'll say that again. White Christian tolerance is going to be the death of not only the world, but the potential Christianity. What do I mean by that? Because if you think that this is just an Israel and radical extremist problem, you're thinking way too small because they're saying it out loud.

They're coming after every single major Christian city around the world, starting with London, Paris, Sydney, Toronto, New York, LA, the list goes on. And because of Christian tolerance, they allow it to happen. And then you start locking up people who start talking about it. Hey, maybe we don't want Islamic rape gangs in our country. What? You're going to jail.

So Israel just happens to be on the front lines of this. But you know who knows this better than anybody? Who are the people that have already banned the Muslim Brotherhood and the radical extremists and jihadists from their country? Well, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Egypt, Jordan, the list goes on because they know that that radical ideology is bad for society. So the last but not least point is this.

What is going on in America today is downstream from what is happening in Europe already. Be very fearful of white young college kids in kafias. They used to say, you know, the classic phrase, if you're young and you're not a liberal, you have no heart. And if you're older and if you don't, if you're not a conservative, then you don't have any brain. These days,

The new phrase is this. If you're young in America, you have no brain if you go to college because you end up becoming a woke, progressive, socialist, anti-American, gay for Gaza jihadist. That is the new liberal in America. And it's up to us to fight it. Tom, final thoughts on you. You know what? I agree with Adam and I wouldn't racialize it. And I'm not saying racism, but he made a racial specific about racism

you know, white Christian. It is basically the lukewarm. If you want to live life as a lukewarm church, you're going to have lukewarm results. And in the book of revelation, there is a list of churches. Read the first four chapters. It tells you about the churches that get it wrong and the consequences of getting it wrong. And right now you will find places in Africa and in places in Asia where, um,

missionaries and the the Word of God is spreading and spreading very rapidly and then you'll find in comfortable Western civilization so I won't say white because it's more than just white but I'm I'm I'm amplifying Adams point and adding my own clarity to it not denying his point at all because I think the core of his point is right and

The lukewarm church is going to get you can get more, expect more of what you accept. And that and I think that's that's where it's going now.

and the lukewarm church not standing up and saying this is the kind of community we want, and this is what we want, is going to live with the consequences. And I agree. Look at Chris Cuomo, who a lot of people would say he's no friend of Christian America. Wait a minute, he's Catholic. And he's speaking up from liberal New York with his family and his history, and the one thing I agree that Chris—

said is is it okay to have an insular muslim community that will discriminate on housing and will just do the following things is that okay he goes no that's not okay chris is right and it's up to where are we where where are we standing up and what are we accepting and guess what you can expect more of the consequence of what you accept yeah pbd can i ask you a question pbd of course

And thank you, Tom, for mentioning Chris Cuomo where we started this thing. I actually didn't even know we were going to talk about this segment. I'm in New York right now. I texted Chris Cuomo this weekend. Hey, great take. Just randomly. And he goes, hey, thank you.

One of your family mottos was tolerance, but you removed it. I know we've discussed this, but I feel like it'd be very relevant to ask this question now. Why is tolerance no longer some of your family credo? Listen, this is how I judge everything. It's very simple. I'll watch an individual and I'll say, what does that sound like?

That is police. They must be driving by. Okay. So I'll watch friends of mine, okay, that we're doing business with or they're in the company. And I'll see two guys that are having lunch. And say this guy was on the right track. He was doing the right thing. And I notice he's hanging out with this person a long time. A year he's around them all the time. Life gets worse.

quits the business, starts drinking, partying hardcore, gets distracted. And I realized anytime that person is around anybody, their life gets worse. Okay. So then you'll look at certain companies, Tom, and you'll, you'll judge somebody that's with a company and you'll say, when, when, when I'm around that company, I just make better decisions in life. When I'm working with that company, they produce better leaders. Jack Welch was known as what? Producing great executives that everybody wanted to hire. Zip.

Xerox had a reputation of what? If you worked at Xerox for 5-10 years, guess what Xerox produces? Incredible sales people. If you go through IBM's sales system, they produce great sales people. If you worked at Bally Total Fitness, they had an incredible sales system, combined with Tom Hopkins and all this other stuff. They learned how to sell. If you worked in certain companies, you learned how to get better with people. Look, it's pure results.

Every community, America was founded on Christianity. Okay? America, the foundation. I'm not telling you it's 100%. You know, the debate with Thomas Jefferson, I totally get it. We can go there as well. But it was their entire constitution is very close what things they use from the Bible. But the main principle was conservative values and principles, Christian conservative values and principles. What do they produce and who do they attract?

How many companies did they build that positively impacts around the world? How many people can come here? Who lives here? Can we attract anybody and everybody that comes here? Muslims come here. Muslims feel safer here than in Muslim nations because opportunity is better. Okay, great. So then the argument becomes, all right, if you claim your religion is peaceful, show peace.

If you claim that you guys produce better products, show what companies you produce. Show that if your community goes into a city, becomes safer, produces jobs, works with other people, does better. Show it. Show it. Listen, a lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists. A lot of people say a lot of bad things about Scientologists.

And it's very easy religion to have a woody collar, like a punching bag, taking shots at them. You know what I know about Scientologists? Any Scientologists I've worked with, they work their asses off. They just do. They ask very good questions. That whole system they go through. And I know this is maybe for some people is going to be weird information.

analogy, they create jobs. They create businesses. People in that community benefit. What city in America known for Scientology? Is it Tampa? I think that's one of the cities that they have. Clearwater. Right. Guess what? There's jobs that are being created. If you do good, you do good. If you don't, you don't. You can go and judge everything with Christians,

Jews, Catholic, Muslims, Scientology, Seventh-day, Jehovah Witness, LDS. Go judge them. Atheists, agnostic, go judge them. What happens to those communities? If it produces results, I want more of it. You notice a pattern that you go to UK and you destroy UK?

And you're changing UK and all these cities, and you want us to sit in America and be patient and tolerant and not be speculative that what could happen in America? No, that's not going to happen here. We're going to do our part on, if you're coming here, this is America. This is the greatest country in the world, and it's the last place. If we don't figure this thing out in America, everywhere across the country, you're going to have to get on that place that Elon Musk wants to go to that's living on another freaking planet to say, dude, they screwed this one up.

Let's at least go to a different planet and see what they're going to be doing with that one. No, you've got to stay strong with it. And again, I have a lot of messages that they sent to me on my neck. Can't believe you just said this. Show me communities that create jobs, businesses, and it's safe, low crime. Show me.

Show me. And then we'll entertain it. If not, I'm sorry. You have to have a proof of your argument that you have. And you have to show that it happens in multiple places. Not picking one of the best exceptions to the rule and send this one demo that's 78 people living there and this is what's going on here. No, I'll go to the next one and tell you what's going on. So Iran. Let's go to Iran. Okay. So the nuclear deal with Iran. Rob, if you can tell me what page it is, I'll go straight to it. Okay.

There it is. So Iran rejects all compromise at fifth round of talks. Would U.S. begin? This is a Breitbart story, Rob. I think you got a video on this one here. If you can play this clip. Here's President Trump. Watch this one here. Go for it. We had some very good talks with Iran yesterday and today, and let's see what happens. But I think we could have some good news on the Iran front, likewise with Hamas on the

on Gaza. We want to see if we can stop that. And Israel, we've been talking to them, and we want to see if we can stop that whole situation as quickly as possible. But having to do with nuclear, we've had some very, very good talks with Iran. And I don't know if I'll be telling you anything good or bad over the next two days, but I have a feeling I might be telling you something good. We've had some real progress, serious progress.

Tom, thoughts? Well, I think it was a very busy interview on the tarmac because this is one of our earlier stories started here, too. That's right. And I think what look, the interesting thing is I was waiting for a reporter to speak up on this one for him to say is I'm not going to tell you how I'm going to do this. Waiting for that because our reporters just don't know how to cover foreign policy.

I like what he was saying, and I think what he's got to figure out is this red line in the sand, is how do you stop Iran from continuing their enrichment program and to build centrifuges that are going to enrich... Maybe let me ask the question, because it looks like you're trying to answer for 30 seconds. You haven't put your thoughts together. Here's a question for you, Tom. Do you believe you can negotiate with Iran...

And they are on it. Like, how do you hold Iran accountable?

and they say, we're not going to have a nuclear plant here, how do you know for a fact that they're not going to do it? How do you trust them that they're not going to do it? Well, first of all, the trust level with Iran is somewhere between 5% and 0%. So why should the president even attempt to negotiate with Iran? What's the benefit of negotiating with Iran? The benefit of negotiating with Iran is let the rest of the world see what you see and let the skeptics see that you tried everything you could before you had to do something that was heavily economic or...

maybe turn to, you know, have Israel do a surgical strike to go take care of the nuclear capabilities. You have to show that you tried and tried and tried and tried. So you have the moral authority to go to the rest of the world and say, say, I did it your way. I tried it. And so I think that's, that's my thought on that. Okay. So you think,

There's no way they're going to be honest with us because right now when you think about Israel, Rob, if you go online and you type in how many nuclear weapons do Iran and Israel have, it'll say zero, right? But majority of the world believes that both Israel and Iran have nuclear capabilities, okay? Whether they have it or not and it's documented or not, who knows? Israel weapons, Iran capabilities. But Iran is...

you know, well, they don't have any, but, you know, they do, they may not, all this other stuff, right? Now, Iran doesn't publicly acknowledge possessing nuclear weapons or not. They probably do. But I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced they have it, and it's somewhere there. Why would you negotiate with them? So it's only for public to show the world that we are willing to work with them to see how far along we can go with them, with Iran. Adam, what is your position here with...

negotiating with Iran. This is a fifth round and the president says, I'm going to have some good news. What could actually be good news that you would believe? That you would believe Iran's side? I don't agree with you, PBD, that Iran already has a nuclear weapon. In my opinion, I could be wrong. The reason I'm so adamant about that is because I firmly believe if they had a weapon, they will use it and make everybody, including Israel and anyone in that surrounding area, go meet Allah.

So it's no secret that nuclear physicists based in Iran go missing for some convenient reason because Israel believes in self-perseverance and eliminating the threat before it actually occurs. So every single one of these major components has an agenda. Israel wants a nuclear weapon to either A, use it, or B, hold the world hostage.

The United States under Trump has a simple goal of getting a good deal. Don't forget there was a bad deal in place under Obama that Trump reversed, and now they're trying to come up with a framework of a good deal, whatever that means. And then Israel, who's basically looking at the Iran and the world jockey for a position, and Israel is basically just saying, we don't want to be nuclear annihilated.

And in my opinion, Israel could potentially strike first if they truly think that Iran actually has a nuclear weapon because Iran would use it based on all estimations. Yeah, I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced they have it. I'm convinced North Korea has them and hasn't used it. You said that, I think, last week that you disagree. But at the same time, you believe if Iran had it, they would attack.

Yeah. Why do you think, why are you so convinced that they have it already? Yeah. So, so listen, you know, uh, I'm on a flight here and on a flight here, it's, it's, uh, we're in a place that's only eight of us. Seven is people with me. One person says they're very successful, man. He starts bragging about his, uh, uh, uh, uh, grandfather. And he and I,

just become close friends like this on a flight. And we talked for an hour and a half to the point where my son is like that. Can you stop talking to him and talk to me? And it was such an awesome conversation. And he starts telling me his traditions he had since he was four years old. His grandfather was a very successful man. Died at the age of 102. Net worth of three and a half, four billion dollars. Super successful. And there's a quote about his profile that I'm reading that says this was a man that if you saw him on the outside, he was tough as nails.

But if you were able to get all the way deep down inside, he was a teddy bear, right? And he has a very softer side. Many didn't see, few saw. Okay. Then there is the opposite. There's those who act hard on the outside, but deep down inside, they're scared shitless. And they don't want to do anything. I think that's exactly what the current regime in Iran is.

I think deep down inside, they're scared. I think deep down inside, they want to act tough in front of their people to win over their people that they have. But deep, deep, deep inside, they are so afraid of...

of what could happen to them. What could happen if they lose it all, all of a sudden? What could happen if people figure out how much they're abusing them, how much money they're stealing from them? What would really happen? And I'm talking Khamenei and all the way at the top, whatever names you want to talk about, I'm talking about all of them. They're worried about that. What if they find out Iran could be a power player around the world if we open up the market? I just don't believe what's going to happen. Look, there's a video clip many years ago of Mike Wallace sitting down with the Shah.

And they're talking, and Mike Wallace says, do you know how the CIA from America views you? Because, you know, what do most people say after Mossadegh? They say the Shah is whose puppet? They say the Shah is the West's puppet. He's a puppet of the West. He's a West puppet. Look how U.S. is CIA profiling Shah because the Shah says, you can't tell me what they think about me. Have you seen this clip before? I haven't. Watch this clip here. Watch this clip here. It's fascinating.

Listen. Listen.

No, I would spare you this terrible ordeal of going through torture. This secret study portrays the Shah as a brilliant but dangerous megalomaniac who is likely to pursue his own aims in disregard of U.S. interests. So how could I be your man, your agent? How do you mean? Safeguarding your interests. Well, it says that the Shah is an uncertain ally. His dreams of glory apparently... Oh, ah, I know. So you would like me to be your suge?

Do you want me to go on or shall I forget about this? Well, there are some funny points. Why not? Just being brutally honest, right? Just being brutally honest. You watch his video. Rob, can you show this is the Shah and guess who's in the backseat? Who do you think? This is a roller coaster, right? The Shah and the Queen are in the front. Guess who's getting in the backseat? Play the clip and you'll see in a second.

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- Go to show the current president of Iran or the rule, you know, Khamenei, if you can type in, this is like showing Khamenei right now gets in a roller coaster ride with his wife and Bob Iger and his wife. - Okay, well there goes the hat. - How do you do that? - Oh, that's so bad. - How do you do that today? - It's not happening. - But the point is, Iranians have to realize what Iranians had at one point was absolutely amazing.

the access to resources, the place where everybody wanted to visit, a place where everybody could go and have some business as well, advertise as well. Watch this clip here showing women in different countries in the 70s versus today. This is Iraqi women in the 70s. Go ahead and play the clip.

Who looks happier? Them? Nope. Who looks happier? Them. Egyptian woman, 50s, or them? No. Lord, the audio a little bit rough so we don't get any of this stuff. Look at this one. Algerian woman, 1970, today. Okay? And this continues. Syrian woman, 1973, today. Boom. Who looks happier? Actually, logical question. Iranian woman in the 70s, today. Iranian woman, 2023. Afghan woman, 1958, versus today. No. Who looks happier?

Well, I really can't. You know, I think it would be unfair to judge this because you can't see their faces anymore. So how do you know if they're happy? I wouldn't know. Listen, this message is being given more to the Iranian people than anything else.

that you have to realize when you have something with beautiful natural resources, incredible history. I've been to a lot of incredible museums in my life, truly, a lot of incredible museums in my life. Some incredible places in Greece. You go to Acropolis, magical. I don't know if you've been. Of course, we're going to go when you see it. Adam, you've been to Acropolis. It's something else, right? Tom, you've been to Acropolis.

Something else. You go and see where people fought. Alexander the Great. You go to Italy. Beautiful places here. Venice. The cathedrals they built. Christopher Columbus walked here and all this other stuff. All these museums in America. Nothing comes close to the museums you go to in Iran.

It's such a, I mean, obviously I've not been to Israel, so I can't sit there. I look forward to going to Israel to see where Jesus walked and kind of go through, see a lot of those things. We're probably, we'll be doing that here in the next couple of years. I can't wait to do that. But Iran, nothing like seeing the history of Iran. There's something very unique about it. And I'd like to see very early in the next few years, future looks bright. I'd like to do a hat like this.

with Iran on the side instead of Florida, because you know right now, Florida was first place, second was Texas, third was California, fourth was New York, fourth was last place, right? Florida was first place. I'd like to do these hats, except you know what I want these hats to be? To put the map of Iran, okay? I'd love to go and have that experience. Imagine we go with a big group of people together to go and travel there and have some kebab, have some loch me kebab, have some liver, you know, liver.

giga like with the seasoning on top of it with the you know the what do you call the corn with the salt and oh my god and listening to all the de la mejor is and you see tom behind it's just shaking his head it's good just going like this my favorite song it's in my top five yeah i know it is in your top five but that is that is the part that i'd like to see happen and you know who's capable of making this happen

It's hard. The Iranian people, as well as a little bit of help. The Queen the other day said, it's very obvious we're not getting any help from President Trump to help Iran be free again. That comment was made.

That the current administration is not helping that happen. So there's a difference between the queen and that guy? Farah. Farah. There's only one. Farah. And what's her relationship with that guy? She was the wife of the Shah of Iran. Oh, okay. So, Pat, does this... Is she still alive? Yes, she is. So, question, because historically you could kind of help me out. So, the switch from that...

The leader that made that happen, who got him out and put in the new one? Is it the people or was it – Oh, that's a very complicated story that a lot of people – Benny, where you been? No, no, hold on. But hold on. So Pat, so do the people have the power right now, the people, to change that guy? Like how we did, how America did with –

With Trump winning in 2016, then what happened in 2020, and then coming back and the people are like, no, no, we don't give a damn what you guys are trying to say what we want. This is what we want. Let me tell you what they have. You ready? These are two things they got. These two things. This is what they have. They have a phone with a camera and they got a mic. This is the most important weapon Iranians have. There's not a more important weapon than this.

It's called a phone record post. It's called a mic. Talk into it and get louder and louder and louder. There's plenty of them that are doing it.

And expose. In Brazil, there's a young man named Nicolas Ferreira, right? The guy's an absolute incredible communicator who is, I think he got the most views last year on Instagram for a couple of, I think he has the most viewed video of the year, if I'm not mistaken. This guy's an absolute amazing young stud that'll be a president of Brazil probably by 2036. Mm-hmm.

around that time. The younger generation of Iran needs to get louder and louder and louder and louder and louder until you cannot arrest a thousand different kids in a bunch of different regions. Whether they're here, whether they're there, whether they're in Dubai, whether they're anywhere around the world that they left, they got to get vocal to the point that you can't go kill everybody. What are you going to do? You're going to kill 5,000 people in

300 different locations, you can't do that. Then everyone's going to know what the hell you're all about and it's out. But they got to use these two weapons. Let them use all the other weapons. You use these two weapons. And it's going to take a level of courage. I think this next generation, we're going to see some heroes in Iran we've never seen before who are going to go in the history books of bringing peace in the Middle East.

of truly bringing peace in the Middle East. The kind of peace that this man, Muammar al-Rashid al-Shahb al-Avi, had in Iran pre-1979 when it was free. But that's going to take a while. But those two weapons are available to everybody. You know, we accidentally started, some guy who's a fan of Ayatollah, starts an Instagram account called VT Farsi. And if you go to VT Farsi, we don't do this.

Just so you know this, if you go to VT Farcee, Rob, you got to put VT Farcee together. Yeah, put VT Farcee together. And look how he does it. I don't even know how he does it, by the way. And it gets millions of views, okay? Can you go to the reels, Rob? Go to the reels. If it shows up, go to the reels that he's got. He's got the top three pinned over there. Go to, say, the first one. Whichever one that they translate my voice. Let's see if this is the one. Go ahead.

Evil America, listen carefully. This is the code name for our operation. These are words from our promised Allah. You can pause it here. But this is the power today.

Ooh, there's a couple media companies that did it right. Use these two weapons. Use these two weapons you got. Use them accordingly. Unite, find each other, get loud, create groups, become first start small, local, then go regional, then go national, then go international, and then create big telegram groups. And it's already been done, by the way.

It's already been done, but a big part of it is who's going to get the credit? Who's going to get the credit? Who's going to get the credit? You want freedom, it's what you want. I don't care who gets the credit. You just want to make sure that freedom happens there. But eventually, God willing, this will happen, and it'll actually make the world a safer place for a lot of other people. Anyways, we are at the end of the podcast, and we've been going for quite some time here, Tom and Adam. Adam, originally, we were a little bit worried with you because...

When you first came on, I don't know if we were able to cut it or not, Adam was watching some inappropriate videos. Isn't this what's going on? I'm like, why are you watching videos like that? Like you're 46, 45. Sorry for watching CNN, BBD. That's what we're talking about. Why would you watch that? But no, let us – we are –

right now out of the country and you know what i probably think uh uh showing that do we show that we're working on something massive that we're going to bring back and show you what project we're working on that that we've been we've been working on this thing for about a would you say year and a half two years has this been in ideation mode for about a year and a half i think it's probably honestly two years two years i think from like early ideation when you were thinking about it and you put some things down to to processing that out to all the way where we are today pat

I think it's a full two years. Well, look, for those of you guys that are still here, are still with us after two hours, and I don't know where we are right now, 15 minutes, let's just show the highlight clip here on where we are right now so you can kind of get an idea. We are somewhere in Italy right now working on a big project that we'll be launching here very soon. Rob, go ahead and play the highlights. It's exciting. It's exciting stuff. Oh, look at that tattoo, guys. Damn.

That was a good meeting, Vinny. That was amazing. We will be releasing these meetings here soon. More intel. It'll be announced a lot at the ball conference, but stay tuned. You're in a half in the works. All right, Rod, we can put it on pause.

Stay tuned. I think probably first week of August we'll give you a teaser of what it is at the vault. Everybody will see it and find out about it. It's been an exciting project that we've been working on for two years. But anyways, gang, hanging out with us. We will not be doing podcasts on Thursday. We'll be busy the entire weekend. We get back next week and we will definitely be doing a podcast next week once we get back in the country. With that being said, take care, everybody. God bless. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.