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Trump Called NATO's Daddy, Rogan vs. Liver King, Biden Autopen Scandal & Mamdani Wins | PBD Podcast | Ep. 608

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All right, we are back here. Another podcast. We got a few things to talk about. The president was called daddy by one of the leaders in NATO. Can you imagine that? They call him daddy. Respect. And a lady who's asking a question says, do you feel like you're their daddy? Like you're their dad? And it's so funny, the moment that even Marco Rubio can't control himself. But then there was a very unique moment between him

And a Ukrainian reporter whose husband is in war asking him a question and she starts getting emotional. Did you see this clip? I did not see this one. It is so powerful. I cannot wait to share this thing with you guys. New York mayor for Democratic side. The winner is out. Mamdani beat out Andrew Cuomo. Andrew Cuomo conceded. And one of the most recognizable realtors in all of America, Ryan Serhant, can't

came out and told everybody what type of calls he's getting of people that own a lot of real estate and what they want to do next. This is already creating a...

element of a domino effect where people are thinking about what they're going to be doing next. Eric Adams comes out and calls out Mamdani publicly. If this guy really wants to do something, he's been able to do it for a long time. Then there's a Republican candidate, Chris Willa, I believe, who's been around for a while. He always wears a red beret. There's just a lot of stuff going on in New York, and it's going to be interesting if New York's going to turn into the next Dearborn, the next Detroit, the next London. Who knows what it's going to turn into? But we will definitely be talking about that as well. Pete Hexett this morning.

got up and addressed the claims that the bombs they dropped didn't necessarily do anything to the nuclear facilities that New York Times and CNN has been claiming nothing happened to. They're fine. Khamenei came out for the first time this morning, said a few words, and he called out the U.S. in a very direct way. I'll share that article with you, Rob, on what he said, Khamenei, this morning with the fact that, yeah, they tried, nothing happens, we're stronger than ever before, and it's almost like a...

Almost like instigating. You know, it's not a position of trying to calm things down. It's like coming out and saying you didn't do nothing publicly trying to humiliate the president. It's what it sounds like. But who knows how they're going to be handling this. But we'll talk about that as well. Trump says, I don't want the Iran regime change. It creates so much chaos. He's not interested in that.

A couple other stories here that we have. Massey and the president go back and forth about the big, beautiful bill. We'll react to that as well. Austin Metcalf, suspected killer, indicted on first-degree murder charge in track meet,

stabbing U.S. liability insurance on verge of breakdown from tight of claims. Guys, can you imagine all these insurers who protect you when something happens to you? Imagine if all of them all of a sudden said, we're out. We don't want to get into this business anymore. What would people be doing? Think about that for a second. What would that do to property valuation? What would that do to a lot of different things? Would you buy your property and pay premium for it if you know you're not protected?

If a tornado, hurricane, something causes some chaos into that place, would you still want to buy that property? These insurers are declaring. They're letting the public know, hey, here's a problem we're facing. How do you want to help us out? Next one. This is devastating to a lot of people, so I just want to kind of brace for impact when I share this article with you guys. It says your brain physically changes when you work too much. Scientists warn. It's a warning. You've been warned. Don't work too hard, folks. Just relax. Enjoy yourself.

Don't work too hard. Try to collect claims, maybe go on some kind of entitlement programs. Let other people work hard and you take all these different kind of programs. I think it's smart. That's a wiser thing to do according to the scientists. Maybe it's even a completely different position. Teachers union head.

Gleefully declares that her union owns American children. Let me say that one more time. Teacher's union head gleefully declares that her union owns your kids.

I change it. Owns American children. Owns our kids. Owns your kids. Isn't that kind? Don't you love the fact that a head of a union is happy about the fact that they own your kids? How does that make you feel? We're going to go into that a little bit more. She's not wrong. Ex-Biden aide Neera Tanden tells oversight committee she was authorized to use the auto pen. What? Authorized to use the auto pen. Vinny brought a pen in here to show how this stuff works.

And, you know, he's going to try to do my signature. It's not easy. I've been having it up all night. It's not easy. It's like a doctor's signature, but it is what it is. Tom Homan warns Iranian sleeper cells could be hiding in U.S. as a result of Biden's border crisis. But at the same time, he tells Pod Force One,

He's living apart from his wife over death threats. Can you imagine how many jobs you can have in America and this job that you have is so bad that you can't sleep next to your wife. You have to worry about your death threats that you're getting left and right. He's trying to protect his family. Of course he is. I totally get it. Rogan and Liver King.

Liver King apparently went to Austin, made some inspirational videos. How would you describe those videos? Very gentle, kind, loving, normal. Very sweet. Nothing out of the ordinary. No scratches and scars on his skin. I spent time with him on the podcast. We had a conversation with him the moment he was born.

The scandal came out and Joe responded about the fact that he's been trying to get on the podcast. Rob, if you don't have that clip of Joe responding, if you could find it to go to it, it's not hard to find. It's everywhere. Candace Owens torches Trump.

I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him. This is from a Mediate story. I think this is from Pierce Morgan, if I'm not mistaken. We'll go to that as well. Joy Reid suggests Iran having nuclear weapon, ready for this folks, might make Middle East calmer. Okay. So it's actually not a bad thing if Iran has nuclear weapons, but it doesn't stop there. CNN host says the following, the

The anchor says, Iranians chanting death to America are friendly. They're very friendly. Can you imagine? We want to kill you. What a friendly group of people here. This is amazing how nice they are. Wall Street panics over prospects of socialists running New York City. Trump calls Mamdani a communist lunatic. Rubio cracks up. We'll talk about that. Eric Adams, we'll talk about that. Trump calls Fed Chair Powell an average mentally person and says he's working on replacement for

And a stunning turnaround. The stock market is on the verge of an all-time record. CNN data guru embarrasses Tucker Carlson with an Iran poll. Okay, Adam's got some thoughts on that one. And in NATO chief, we talked about the daddy situation being called daddy. All right, folks, if you're watching this, one of the things that

is very important in a time like this, while all the chaos are happening. If you're running a small business or you're an executive or somebody that's a startup, you're trying to raise money, you're trying to sell your business, you're trying to make proper strategic partnerships,

Maybe, you know, take your comp plan to a different level, variable comp to a different level. You want to find a better way to expand your business model, expand your podcast. We had a guy that came to us, a doctor, at 288 subscribers on his podcast.

Within 90 days, I think he's at 160,000 subscribers right now. We spend an entire day with him at our consulting firm. The one thing most people don't know about is the fact that we engage with about 10,000 people worldwide in 60 plus countries at BitDavid Consulting. If you're a small business owner,

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specific to those of you that are running businesses, executives, I want to take your business to the next level, and find strategies to excel during these chaotic times. Don't do it alone. If there's anything I will tell you is don't do it alone during these seasons. Having said that, let's get right into it. New York. New York City Mayor on the Democratic primary, Mamdani beats Andrew Cuomo. This is not something people expected.

He's a 33-year-old former rapper who said a lot of weird things. He says he's going to make child care free for everybody, buses free for everybody. There's a lot of things that's going to be given free. He's a communist. Some call him a socialist, Muslim. There are certain things that he has. They're calling New York that could be possibly the next London. New York could turn into the next Dearborn, could turn into the next Detroit. There's a lot of concerns there. It is so bad with what they're talking about with New York.

that even Ryan Serhant, who is the big real estate influencer, this is the type of guy that puts up properties for sale in New York for $200-plus million. That's who he represents. That's who those clients want to do business with. And here's what he had to say. Luxury real estate broker says wealthy New Yorkers are already looking to flee after Zohran Mamdani's primary win. Rob, if you can go to the next page.

on that Instagram post. Within minutes of Zoran Mabdani clinching the Democratic nomination Tuesday night, real estate agents like Ryan Serhant were flooded with calls from clients looking to walk away from deals to buy apartments in New York City. So imagine I made an offer on a property that I'm buying, $5, $10, $15, $20, $30 million. I'm like, I'm out. We're in the middle of it. Imagine a realtor is about to make $200,000 in commission. $50,000.

$50,000 in commission. $400,000 in commission. We're out. We're not doing this. This is not a good investment. If this takes place, if you want to go to the next slide, Rob, if you could on that Instagram post. My number one job, he says...

We'll be moving people from New York to Florida. Again, based on the results, clients are going to hold off on making any kind of investment in New York City. By the way, he does not benefit from saying this. You guys understand, like his business is New York business. He doesn't benefit from saying something like this. He wants people to stay in New York to do well, but at the same time, it benefits him as well if people leave because they're buying and selling. Rob, if you want to go to the last slide, if there is one. Okay, so this is from Ryan Serhan. Now,

Why are so many business owners, entrepreneurs concerned about what's going on here with Mamdani? Rob, can you put up the video clip about Mamdani winning and what happened there with the primaries? This is Eric Adams, okay, Mayor Eric Adams, who says, you know, all the claims that Mamdani is making of what he's going to do to New York, he can do today if he really wanted to. Rob, go ahead and play this clip.

Mayor, it's not just defund the police, this candidate, Democratic Socialist. He wants to freeze the rent. He wants city-run grocery stores, social workers to replace the police because that's going to help. He wants $60 billion of debt fund for affordable housing. He wants free buses, no cost for child care, baby baskets for newborns, and a $30 minimum wage. How can someone vote for this? He's a snake.

oil salesman. He would say and do anything to get elected. Think about this for a moment. He wants to raise 1%. He wants to raise tax on 1% of New Yorkers high income earners. As the mayor, you don't have the authority to do that.

You know who has the authority to do that? An assemblyman, which he is. He wants to do free buses. He could have done it at assemblymen. There you go. He doesn't understand the power of government and how you must make sure you improve your economy

raise the standard of living and this is what we've done in the city and I'm looking forward to being on the campaign trail and Showing New York is we can't go backwards. Now. Here's what's interesting Vinnie You're somebody that lived in New York for quite some time. He's running mom Donnie's running as a Democrat. Yes Eric Adams is running as an independent and

Chris Avila is running as a Republican. When you see this happening in New York, one, how do you feel about Mamdani? Do you think his chances are high that he could possibly win, or do you think Mayor Adams is going to come back and win? Well, first of all, yesterday – well, on Tuesday we were talking about it, and we were like, yeah, he's winning. Cuomo has no point. But just to add a couple more things.

that he's previously called for, abolishing NYPD, abolishing prisons, abolishing medical bills, abolishing private health care insurance, banning all guns. I want you guys, I mean, even though New York is pretty strict, legalizing sex work, safe injection sites,

Because that works in San Francisco, right, Tom? Oh, perfect. Yeah, nothing could possibly go wrong. Yeah, an ATM machine for crack. Ending cash bail, decriminalizing drug possession, ending sentencing enhancements, and ending all cooperation with ICE. Meaning the Sanctuary City thing, they want nothing with ICE to have to do with it. I personally, Pat, I'm not a fan of it, and...

I mean, just the pool of leadership from New York. I know I mentioned on Tuesday, but what the hell is going on? Number one. Number two, all the people that are fleeing. Is that like you just give up and you bounce? Why don't those people who have money donate and help and try to fund and support the opposition? Because that

We talked about and we warned people. Look at what's happening in England. Look what's happening in France. Every single thing on my feed about Europe is negative. And it's the migrants that are in there that are causing freaking ruckus, punching people in the face, robbing people, stabbing people, beating the shit out of kids. Sorry for my language. And I want to say something, Pat. And I think it was Mayor Suarez said something along the lines of,

finding a loophole or something where if you're a communist and you're seriously supporting communists, you can't run for public office. Rob, I think Suarez said this, but this is me. This is Vincent O'Shaughnessy's take. And this goes all the way to the top, which includes him and this type of office, Pat. This country was built on Christian values. Am I right, Tom?

Absolutely. The Constitution was not written in a vacuum. The founders believed our rights came from God. Endowed by our creator. Thank you. And not the government. So that's what makes America great. And that's what makes us different. You take God out and you have tyranny. And look at communist...

Name me a time that communism worked, Tom. Can anybody? Can you? Can anybody do it? Communism and this Marxist crap idea. And this is me. I think, Tom, that we need to... I don't know how it would happen, but do something where even the president, Pat...

Only Christians, and I'm being real, can be the president of the United States. This is a Christian nation. Our freedoms came from the cross, not Karl Marx. Communism rejects God. And if we let this type of stuff in... All gods, by the way. Am I being that guy where this is a nation founded on Christian values? You're right. But listen, the beautiful thing about people like this is contradictions eventually get exposed. Watch this one here.

He says, this virus is laying bare the severe shortcomings of capitalism. And look at the next tweet. It's the final day to buy our very first merch. Wait a minute. You went from hating capitalism to becoming a capitalist, zero to 60 to capitalist in a couple seconds. What happened there? You get exposed. You get exposed on ideology and philosophies people like this have. Adam, what are your thoughts on this with what's happened in New York City with Mamdani winning? Well, congratulations, New York City. I just want to give you a round of applause.

I can't hear him. We lost Adam. Adam dropped out. No? Audio? Yeah, there you go. Okay, go for it, Adam. Okay, sorry about that. I don't know what you heard, but... Go back where you said New York City. Congratulations, New York City. Yeah, well, congratulations, New York City. Proud of you. Happy for you. This is what you wanted. You got it. This is something that we'll see if it sticks to...

Mandani when it comes to November. This is only the primary. That's right. If we know anything, this is only the primary. Do you think he'll win? There's going to be five more months. Do you think he'll win? So I do think he'll win.

And I'll tell you why. This is not a... People are looking at him as he's the problem. He's not the problem. He's a symptom of a bigger problem. One thing we know for sure is New York is done with the Cuomos. No offense. I think Chris Cuomo is doing a great job right now on News Nation. I think...

Andrew Cuomo, it's time to retire. There's three reasons that Zoran won, and we should pay attention to the reasons why. Number one, he was the exact opposite of what Cuomo was. He was authentic, he was bold, and he wasn't scared. Cuomo, as funny as it is, he's not establishment, but he's at least viewed as anti-establishment or a part of the establishment.

So, number two, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. He is a progressive Islamist. He co-founded, I believe, the Palestinian Students for Justice. He's a communist. He's an Islamist. Respect. That's who he is. Believe him. He started a grassroots, youthful, diverse movement in New York City. And this is who the modern Democratic Party is. This is why I left the Democratic Party. I'm from Miami.

You don't see anything like this in Miami. You see someone like Mayor Suarez in Miami. There's 0% chance in Miami where Cubans came to flee communism and socialism. We'd never elect anybody like this. This is why you see all the memes about people basically moving to Miami. What's the biggest reason they're moving to Miami? It's not the Christianity. It's not the Islamism. It's not the Judaism. It's not religion. Follow the money. Affordability crisis in New York is the number one in...

in the country as far as what you're paying, as far as percentage of your income towards housing. That's why he's using all the typical tricks that a socialist and a communist uses. Lowering the cost of rent, rent freezes, free buses, free transportation, free childcare, $30 minimum wage, free groceries basically.

Where have I heard this before? We'll see if Eric Adams can mount something, but unless he becomes authentic and learns how to get with the youth, Mondani might be the newest mayor of New York City. All right, so here's what you have to say. Here's what you have to say on the victory speech. Go ahead, Rob. Because New Yorkers have stood up for a city they can afford, a city where they can do more than just struggle. And it's where the mayor will use their power.

to reject Donald Trump's fascism, to stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors. I don't know why I'm screaming. Anchorman, is that what it is? Do we keep playing it, Rob? I'm just trying to, like... He says he's fighting Trump's fascism, right?

Yep. Fascism. To stop mass ICE agents from deporting our neighbors. So this is what Tom Holman had to say about this, because you know how he went up and screaming about the fact that, hey, you can't, this is not fair what you're doing to immigrants. This is Tom Holman's response. Go for it.

I WOULD GUESS THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF CRIMINALS AND IRANIAN CELLS AND WHATNOT IN NEW YORK CITY. THE JOB IS NOT DONE THERE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS GUY?

Good luck with that. Governor Law jumps him every day, every hour, every minute. We're going to be in New York City. Matter of fact, because this is a sanctuary city, President Trump made it clear a week and a half ago. We're going to double down and triple down on sanctuary cities. If we can't arrest a bad guy in a county jail, one agent arresting one bad guy, they release him in the streets like New York does every day. We've got to send a whole team to look for this guy. And not only that...

We're going to send additional teams to look for all the people they arrested. We're going to concentrate on sanctuary cities because we know they're releasing public safety threats and national security threats back to the street. So we know we've got a problem there. So we don't have that problem in Florida where most sheriffs work for us. So we're going to double up and triple up on New York. And not only are we going to send more agents to the neighborhood, we're going to increase worksite enforcement tenfold. If we can't arrest them in the jail, are you going to force them in the neighborhood? Then we'll fine them in the neighborhood. If we can't.

So, by the way, New Yorkers who are possibly thinking about staying, they're staying because of guys like this. They're relying on the federal government to do their part. Tom, Rob, can you do me a favor? Go to chat, GBT, and time in. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? How many Muslim mayors? I believe the number is six when I looked at it yesterday, but it could be three and three. It'll break it down for you. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America? Zoom in a little bit. How many Muslim mayors have we had in America?

uh for example breakdown okay so that one is what mayor of cambridge massachusetts okay four years shaddaf jefferson was a montgomery township okay

uh because where's that portland uh is that portland uh maryland no that's where m.e portland maine portland maine and then nadia muhammad is saint louis park minnesota it's a lot of minnesota amir omar richardson texas interesting first muslim so five in that region and then six mamdani if he wins right so five so five so far

And of which, of the five, three are from Minnesota. If this goes the way it does, Tom, say he wins. Is it really that bad of a thing? Is it really going to get that nasty? Is it really an overreaction? Oh, my God, everyone's going to move to Florida. People are going to leave. It's going to be this. Is it really that bad of a thing in New York, or is it just an overreaction?

I don't think it's an overreaction. We just saw one of the largest, most influential realtors in New York saying, I'm getting phone calls now to stop a deal. And a deal in New York City is a million, $2 million deal on the low end for condos and nice apartments and things like that. And now you're talking about this. I look at it this way. There is a great contradiction that happened in New York City. They had a large rally, one of the larger rallies in

No authoritarianism, no authoritarianism, no kings. But if you listen to this guy and you listen to everything, you take the guns away from the citizens. And by the way, there was a shooting at a church, one person tragically killed, but then a highly trained, licensed citizen security guard takes out the threat.

Not a multi-person shooting. One person, God rest their soul, and the shooter neutralized. Now you're going to take guns away from the citizens. You're going to defund the police. And you're going to do all the rest of these things, make it free. And when that devolves, that will devolve very, very quickly. And when it devolves, guess what? The people can't rise up.

Because if people are not armed just to protect their homes, and you know what you get? You get an authoritarian Muslim that's the mayor of your city. This is not an overreaction. There are very real things that are happening right now. It's a populist thing. If he tries to get the $30 minimum wage through, Eric Adams was on a morning show on Fox talking about things. Hey, he needs the assemblymen to help him. And he is an assemblyman. And so why couldn't he get all this done now? So as mayor of New York,

You know, this is not an overreaction. This is the tip of an iceberg. This could head toward Dearborn very, very, very quickly. And I just asked New Yorkers, those of you that voted for him, look down the list of things and ask yourself very honestly, where do you think the outcome is at? What do you think the end is at? Does the mayor become a Muslim authoritarian figure? I think so. But you just marched in the streets over the past weekend and said no authoritarianism. Which is it? By the way, you know what's interesting about this, Tom?

I posted something on Twitter and I said, New York may have gotten more conservative in the 2024 election, but the Democratic Party moved further left. I think you're 100% correct. They moved further left. So as left as they were, they didn't decide to come to the center. Let's go a little bit more to the center. They're like, no, let's go a little bit more to the left. Let's go turn this thing into Detroit. Let's go turn this thing into Dearborn. And you know what's the crazy thing about...

that live in your community, who are the first people that are hated? Those who make money, those who are successful. In every space, those are the people that always get hated the most. In the family, who is the most hated person? Probably the guy with the most money or the gal with the most money. It's always the same thing. People can't

stand success because they're envious of it until eventually what happens? Those people say, you know what? You don't appreciate us? No problem. We'll leave to a different place. Ken Griffin. I was at an event in St. Regis with a bunch of wealthy people that are billionaires and the entire eight hour meeting

40% of the meeting, everyone brought up Ken Griffin. Ken Griffin left Chicago. Ken Griffin left Chicago. Ken Griffin left Chicago. Ken Griffin left. We're going to miss Ken Griffin, but you know we're going to recover from Ken Griffin. It's like the entire meeting was about Ken Griffin. Okay, so now all these people that you guys hate in New York that are the business owners, the builders, the billionaires, you don't think they have 100 other places to go to? It's as if every person that voted for Mamdani in New York needs to go out there and buy the book Atlas Shrugged and just read it

Go read the book and read the history of what happens when you push these types of guys out. There's plenty of places for them to go to. But again, we'll see what happens by November between now and then. Maybe Eric Adams is going to come out. And since they're both kind of Democratic Party, but he went to the independent side, who knows if an independent can win in New York? We'll find out. Let's go to the next story. Iran, Israel, did the nuclear facilities really get hit? Did they not get hit? You hear stories about the fact that

Those places didn't get hit. There's CNN anchor saying certain things. There's Joy Reid saying certain things here. Joy Reid. I'll start off with that one first. Rob, can you tell me what page Joy Reid is? Joy Reid is... You have to read here this one, folks. Page 16. Page 16. Okay. Okay.

Joy Reid, let's start the clip from here, by the way. Joy Reid suggests Iran having nuclear weapon might make Middle East calmer. Can you imagine that? Iran having nuclear weapon might make the Middle East calmer. By the way, there are people that agree with her. Go ahead, Rob, play the clip.

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What do you think we'll see first, World War III or nuclear war? I don't think we'll ever see nuclear war in our lifetime, but I do think we'll see a world war. And the reason you won't see nuclear war in our lifetime is that everyone who would deem to threaten global annihilation has nukes. Mutually assured destruction. Mutually assured destruction. And I think what would, in a weird way, make the Middle East—you know how they say the most polite society in the country is Texas? Mm-hmm.

Because everybody's packing. Everybody got guns. That's right. You know, maybe the Middle East would be calmer if there weren't just... I mean, what... I spoke yesterday to a Navy veteran who is... who used to fly those bombers that they used to drop the bunker, the 3,000-pound bombs. And he was telling me, he said, don't be... don't get it twisted. This...

war is not about a real threat that Iran posed to anyone. They don't have nukes and they didn't have nukes and they weren't making nukes. This is about a geopolitical push, the same way it was when we went after Mossadegh to make it, we would rather an Iran with a dictator who's a

puppet than a free Iran who could defy us and take the oil we feel entitled to. In this case, Israel wants to be the hegemon of the region. They want to be the United States, the big boy in the block and have no competitors. And their biggest two potential competitors are Saudi Arabia and Iran. And so the idea here is to make them the unquestioned superpower. She thinks it'll be safer if Iran has nuclear weapon. Now, this whole story

that you're hearing about was prompted after reporters came out from CNN, I believe New York Times, that said U.S. strikes did not destroy Iran's nuclear program. White House rages after top secret doc is leaked as Israel and Iran claim victory. Rob, if you have this clip, go for it. Play this clip here.

and the American public have ever seen. And that CNN story does not change the facts. There was a total and complete obliteration of Iran's nuclear facilities. And because of the president's strike, because of the precision of our United States military in this perfectly executed mission, Iran no longer has the capability to produce a nuclear weapon as imminently as they did prior to the strike. The American people and the world should be grateful for that. And it's disgusting that CNN and the New York Times are disparaging not just the president,

but our brave men and women who helped conduct this highly successful operation. What kind of consequence could the leaker face? Walks up. Okay. Pete Hexett then responds this morning. He does a press conference to address it and break down the fact that these facilities were hit. And here's what he had to say. Go for it, Ryan. Fake news, CNN, MSNBC, or the New York Times. There's been fawning coverage of

of a preliminary assessment. I haven't had a chance to read it. Every outlet has breathlessly reported on a preliminary assessment from DIA. I'm looking at it right now. Again, it was preliminary a day and a half after the actual strike. When it admits itself in writing that it requires weeks to accumulate the necessary data to make such an assessment, it's preliminary. It points out that it's not been coordinated with the intelligence community at all.

There's low confidence in this particular report. It says in the report there are gaps in the information. It says in the report multiple linchpin assumptions are what this assessment... A linchpin assumption, you know what that is? That means your entire premise is predicated on a linchpin. If you're wrong, everything else is wrong. And yet, still, this report acknowledges it's likely severe damage. Again, this is preliminary, but leaked evidence.

Because someone had an agenda to try to muddy the waters and make it look like this historic strike wasn't successful. I'm going to get to the chairman in a moment because he's going to lay out the particulars for you based on his professional military experience. But here's what other folks are saying. The DIA that put that report out says this is a preliminary low confidence report and will continue to be refined as additional intelligence becomes available. How about the Israeli Atomic Energy Commission?

The devastating U.S. strikes on Fordow destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable. Have any of these quotes made their way into the New York Times or the Washington Post? Nope. MSNBC? CNN? Any of these quotes? How about this one? This is a new one. From the U.N., the United Nations. No friend of the United States, or certainly Israel often. Here's the head of the U.N. Atomic Energy Agency this morning, Rafael Grossi.

U.S. and Israeli strikes caused enormous damage to Iran's nuclear sites. Don't take my word for it. How about the IDF's chief of staff? I can say here that the assessment is that we significantly damaged the nuclear program, setting it back by years. I repeat, years. The Iranian foreign minister, the spokesman, our nuclear installations have been badly damaged, that's for sure. I'm sure that's an understatement. John Radcliffe.

The director of the CIA putting out a statement just last night. CIA can confirm that a body of credible intelligence indicates Iran's nuclear program has been severely damaged by recent targeted strikes. This includes new intelligence from a historically reliable, very different than preliminary assessment. You can pause it right there. Okay. Tom, he's given his argument to say that.

We did destroy the facilities. It's going to take them years to recover. Iran, I'm going to show an article from this morning. This is what President Trump had to say. Fake news CNN, together with the fallen, failing New York Times, have teamed up in an attempt to demean one of the most successful military strikes in history. The nuclear sites in Iran are completely destroyed. Both the Times and the CNN are getting slammed by the public. What do you think really happened? Do we really know whether massive damage was done or not? I think, well, first of all,

Hegsis wasn't giving his opinion. He was reading the opinion of multiple global leaders whose business is to be in the know and to make these statements and these observations, number one. And number two, you've got certainty coming from, okay, the IDF. Okay, you could say the IDF is biased. Sure. That there's either business to spin it one way. But when...

Iran's foreign minister and others are talking about this. It seems to indicate that there is damage done, but everybody also agrees that it's going to take weeks of damage assessment to see. We have satellite photos. We're going to watch trucks. We're going to see what's going on there to see what is happening on the ground and the true ground response.

All it takes is the satellite images and you'll watch. Do supplies come and go? Do the workers come in and go out the way they were? How many of them? There's going to be all sorts of assessments. So it is correct that it is early to make the assessment. And it's also correct that Hexas didn't go up there and just do some fawning denial. He called out the media for grabbing one little part of it, running with it because they want to make the president look bad. And then he starts quoting people around the world.

made me feel pretty reasonable about this. So if we got half the

half the job done, or we got a quarter of the job done. You know what still is true? What's that? We flew planes into their airspace. They couldn't do shit about it, and we flew home unharmed. But was that the outcome, though? Was a mission accomplished? That's the question. That's what a lot of people are asking about because this is what Khamenei had to say this morning. I don't think we know, but there's a lot of people on the world stage that are saying that there's more chance that it did. I got you, Tom. This is what Khamenei is saying this morning.

Iranian Supreme Leader crawls out of bunker to ludicrously claim victory over Israel. Tehran's delivered a hand slap to America's face. Go a little bit lower if you could, Rob. Iran's humiliated Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei came out of hiding Thursday to ludicrously claim victory over Israel, having delivered a hand slap to America's face during the first address since the total obliteration of his nuclear weapon facilities. Khamenei said he was victorious in the 12-day war

Despite losing years of progress on his nuclear programs, including more of a dozen of his leading scientists being killed and obliteration of three nuclear enrichment sites, the Islamic Republic was victorious and in retaliation delivered a hand slap to America's face.

Come on, they said Thursday, go a little bit lower, Rob. And yeah, the head of the Islamic regime has been hiding since Israel launched Operation Rising Line on June 13, fearing an assassination attempt by the Jewish state. Israel had launched hundreds of missiles around Tehran, along with covert operation that destroyed a ground-to-air and ground-to-ground defense system.

And Khamenei addresses comes five days after Trump ordered the seven B-2 bombers to drop bunker busters, bombs on the underground for Doha nuclear sites as nuclear-capable submarines launch cruise missiles at two other sites, Natanz and Esfahan. U.S. hit nuclear sites but could not achieve much. Khamenei said in televised speech before calling out Trump,

U.S. President Trump needed to do showmanship. Okay, so now he's poking. Go a little bit lower. Needed to do a little bit of showmanship. Go a little bit lower. With all that commotion and all those claims, the Zionist regime was practically knocked out and crushed under the blows of the Islamic Republic. The isolated Iran leader statements are the first since ceasefire was agreed upon by his nation in Israel. Adam, your thoughts on this?

So there's a lot to unpack here, so let me just go one by one and I'll go very quickly. At the cornerstone of everything that's going on, whether it's Joy Reid, whether it's what's happening in New York, whether it's even the Ayatollah, everything is doing an exact opposite of what Trump stands for. So if you're trying to understand the mindset of the Democrat these days or the socialists, the progressives, all you have to do is understand Newton's theory.

which is for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction. Oh, so Trump is pro-Israel? Now all of a sudden we're pro-Iran. We're pro-Palestinian. Trump is America first? Well, we're America last. Trump has closed the borders. Let's open the borders. Let's have a...

A globalist mindset lets globalize the antifada. Trump is using ICE. We hate ICE. That's all it is. Show me a position Trump stands for. That's exactly what the Democrats or the globalists are using as their platform to go against Trump. Trump could cure cancer, and they would be cheering, why did he eliminate cancer? He cost 17,000 jobs. Yeah, exactly.

What's that? If he cured cancer, they would say Trump caused the loss of 17,000 jobs. They would find a way to take the 20% position on it. That's all it is. So if you understand that, that whatever Trump stands for, they're going to take the opposite position, that at least gives you a little insight to their mindset. Number two, this is where this moron

Joy Reid, who still somehow gets an opportunity to talk what she doesn't understand. I say this all the time. The Middle East is not the Midwest. She thinks in her peanut sized brain with her blonde wig that she understands jihadist mentality. You don't. The Middle East is not the Midwest. You're assuming you're basically living your life based on the premise that they have the exact same values and principles that we have in the West. They don't.

They have jihadist tendencies and jihadist ideology. This is a clash of civilization and a clash of culture. Understand that. So when Trump is pro-Israel, of course Joy Reid takes the pro-Iran position. And naturally she starts deducing, well, yeah, maybe it'd be great if they had nuclear weapons. Really? Because that worked out really well in North Korea versus South Korea, right? Yeah.

Take a look at those images at night. So she's basically operating on the premise that they have the same mindset as us. No, Israel loves life. United States loves life. Jihadists worship death. And in Judaism, if we're going to give cheers, like in Italian, what do you say if you're going to have a cheers? You're going to say, hey, what do you say? Salud. In Judaism, you say this. You say l'chaim, to life.

Jihadists worship death. That's what you don't understand. The cornerstone of their mindset is martyrdom, jihad, paradise, 72 virgins, pay for slay, human shields. It's a completely different ideology. So now you're operating on the premise that you want to give them nukes? It makes zero sense. And Israel, who is basically our proxy in the region,

We'll never stand for that, Vinny. Well, first, I want to say the bigger problem with the whole situation is that there are still people inside the Trump administration, which I know is going to be there, that are still trying to undermine the administration. The deep state is still real. You have people inside that the FBI right now is investigating. They're going to try to find out who's leaking this information, which is inaccurate, and it's jumping the gun, no pun intended, because—

Because when they're saying, you know, there's weeks, they still have to find out for weeks what's happening. Yes, we have reports that there was satellite imagery of a bunch of trucks, Tommy, coming up, possibly taking out uranium, which one thing I'm going to criticize is like the heads up, Pat, the warning, the Trump, the tweeting, the everything. If you give an enemy such a heads up like that, they're going to take shit out of the ground. They're going to move out of there. And I did a little bit of research, Pat. The bomb that we used, the 30,000-pound bomb, how –

How deep do you guys think it goes into the ground? How deep? How many feet? 90 meters or whatever 90 meters is. If 2 meters is 6 feet, 270 feet. Okay, great. Average 200 feet. And if it's 60 plus feet for reinforced concrete, the Fordow fuel enrichment plant was 250 to 300 feet deep. Even if we're not hitting the actual site itself,

Everything else is destroyed. The odds of you even getting... Yeah, but Iran's known for having strong concrete. 100%. Opposition is saying the fact that because Iran has the best concrete, it's not going to make it all the way down to the facilities where they're having the uranium. And then you're hearing the stories about how they moved 400...

Kilos. Kilos of uranium to a complete different facility, so nothing got hit. That's what some people are saying. And that's why we have to give them a little bit of time, especially when it comes to the assessment of weeks to find out. And I get it. I know what people are going to say. Well, you can't trust the government with all the reports and everything like that. But I'm just saying from that point of view, they disrupted it. If it was, as Bibi and all of them said, they were weeks away from making a nuclear weapon, this has at least slowed them down, okay? Yeah.

I mean, the last thing you're going to have to do is what? Send ground troops, hopefully not American, to go and find out now the site. Because now you can't just satellite to see what's happening down there. You have to send boots on the ground to see what's happening down there. At least out of this whole thing, there was the most minimal civilian casualties. I mean, if you want to count anybody that's down there, any nuclear...

people that are working on a nuke to freaking attack America. But I think it's going to take a couple of weeks to find out if it's actually real and if they still have, if they moved anything from the site. Yeah. And then, by the way, this leads to President Trump, who's being asked about regime change. And this is what he had to say about the fact that he doesn't want regime change. Watch this here. Do you want to see regime change in Iran? If there was, there was. But no, I don't want it. I'd like to see everything calm down as quickly as possible.

regime change takes chaos and ideally we don't want to see so much chaos so we'll see how it does you know the iranians are very good traders very good business people

and they got a lot of oil they should be fine they should be able to rebuild and do a good job they're never gonna have nuclear but other than that they should do a great job yeah so the challenge then becomes if you don't open up yesterday i put a tweet out at 1 30 in the morning or one o'clock in the morning i don't know what time it was i'm up there just going through a bunch of different things and

preparing for today. Today happens to be Tom's oldest daughter's birthday. Shout out to Bailey. Happy birthday, Bailey. It happens to be my youngest daughter's birthday, Brooke. And it happens to be our anniversary today. My wife and I, 16 years. So happy birthday, Bailey. Happy birthday, Brooke. Brooklyn. Congratulations, Pat. Happy anniversary, Jennifer, babe. Congrats, Jen. So last night, 1 o'clock, I'm going through it, and you're talking about regime change and all the stuff that's taking place, right?

And the president said what he said there about the fact that he doesn't want chaos. So who doesn't want chaos? He doesn't want chaos? He doesn't want regime change? Or the Iranian people don't want regime change? What did he say? I think he doesn't want chaos. He doesn't want it. Of course he doesn't want it. Of course. But what do Iranians want? They want change. They don't want chaos. They want change. I put this up last night.

because a guy said something about me. Can you go back there, Rob? Put the tweet right before the one that I put up. I just want to call this out. If this, the Iranian romanticizers, put that up there so I can read that. Patrick with his political literacy is at the level of Wikipedia. He has no national political agendas other than increasing his audience and securing sponsors. Therefore, when he passionately slams leadership capacity of Prince Reza Pahlavi, it is undoubtedly driven by

Business interests. Now, here's what this guy, and I don't blame him for not knowing what he's talking about. My response to him was, I don't know who you are. I really don't want to open my mouth about who for decades used their last name to collect money from innocent Iranians

But if the pressure comes, I will gladly open my mouth. I will bring receipts soon if these lies continue about us doing it for money. Whether it's I'm taking one minute, I'm taking money from Israel. The next minute is I'm taking Masa. The next minute is I'm Iranian. The next minute is I'm Nayak. The next minute is I'm pro-Rezh al-Pahlavi monarchy coming back. The next minute we're taking money for sponsorship. And what's funny is we don't take money from any sponsorship. This is why we sell our stuff.

We're proud capitalists. By the way, what is his name, Majid? Here's what we'd like to see happen. Your country right now only has $350 billion in GDP. We'd like to find a way to 7X that so Iranians can make some money because capitalism can solve a lot of problems in Iran. So I wrote this and I said Iran deserves better leadership. There's so much untapped potential in Iran.

Here are a few things to consider. A resource-rich nation with a starved economy. How does a country with ranked fifth in natural resources, population of 92 million, talented people only produce 400, that's less than Walmart, Amazon, and Aramco produce per year? And by the way, Apple is 390 billion, so Apple almost is bigger than Iran's GDP. So Iran and the entire country produces less than a single corporation. How is it possible? The answer, big. The current regime is suffocating the nation's population.

potential. With the right leadership, the economy can explode to $2 trillion in no time, unlocking unprecedented prosperity for its people. Two, geopolitical goldmine. Iran is one of the most strategically located nations on earth. Whether you're in China, Russia, Europe, Africa, or Middle East, you have to go through Iran. Now imagine if Iran were wide open for business. Three, a sleeping giant for global tourism. In the 70s, it was one of the global destinations, drawing nearly a million tourists per year, including celebrities, business elites, and world leaders.

It offers stunning mountains, rich ancient history, world-class museums,

incredible cuisine, music, culture, and yes, some of the most beautiful women in the world. Iranian women, man, they're beautiful. Iran has everything except for freedom. Iran doesn't need a monarchy or a theocracy. That's not popular for a lot of people that are fans of Reza Pahlavi, that they want him to bring back the monarchy. You don't need a theocracy. You don't need a monarchy. My opinion, you can trash this and tear it apart. This is my opinion. The concept that U.S. had, the no-kings protest, they should do that in Iran.

is more relevant to Iran than anywhere else. Iran needs to scrap its current structure and start fresh like a startup, bring together modern founding fathers to draft a new constitution based on liberty, equality, and democracy, hold real elections, guarantee freedom for everyone. Partnering with the West is the fastest way to rebuild. You can't chant death to America one day and negotiate with the U.S. next day. That's not diplomacy. That's delusion. If Iran builds bridges, not walls, business will flood in.

A free Iran could be the key to peace in the Middle East. That simple. Only question is who's going to rise up. So when I put that up there,

You see this, and you'll see, oh, my God, how dare you do this? I can't. They're the romanticizers. He's going to be like his father. He's not his father. He's a sweet man, nice man, smart man, wants to make his mom happy, wants to make his dad proud that he's no longer here, but he's not going to get the job done as a person. And some people will let him just get in, and then we'll figure all the rest out. No. No.

a person that's an influencer is not going to sit there and say, oh yeah, yeah, let's just do that. Let's get in and then we'll get the job done. You know who said that? Nancy Pelosi said, well, we have to pass it so we see what's in the bill. That's what we got to do. We'll find out what's in it afterwards. So to me, while this is going on, a lot of Iranians are seeing, is someone going to close this out? By the way, if again, Iranians, if again, if,

If again, this is the closest you've been in 46 years, if again, this doesn't succeed, who are you blaming? Go ahead. This is the closest you've been in 46 years. If this doesn't happen again, whose fault is it? You're not going to put it on Pat Levy? Who are you going to put it on? Because that's your face. Go ahead. Put it on somebody. Who will you put it on? The Indiana Pacers lost.

Who do you put it on? Well, injuries. Fair, game seven. Halliburton brought it all the way to the top. Minnesota was supposed to go to the championship and become the Michael Jordan, right? What's his name? Anthony Edwards. What happened? Oh, it's not his fault? It's not his fault. Oh, he's a seasoned player. I got you. Let's not put the responsibility on anybody. This is the close. By the way, he had a video that he posted yesterday, Rob. If you can go to his...

ex-account and again sweet man nice man smart man capable man of being someone that can help out with history but this is what he posted yesterday if you can go a little bit lower there was a video right there

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We stand at a crossroads. One road leads to bloodshed and chaos. The other to a peaceful and democratic transition. The difference in these two roads depends on one factor. And one factor alone is whether the current regime in Iran is allowed to survive. If the West throws the regime a lifeline,

there will be more bloodshed and chaos. Okay. So he gives a message like that, which is to say this is the closest they've been. He needs EUS's help to get the job done. Great. But would you watch that? Does that sound like somebody that is intimidating, that someone that's going to get the job done? Absolutely not. No, it sounds like somebody that has the history, that can play a very good role. I had a call with somebody yesterday. We know what the entire conversation was about for an hour. The conversation was about, this is one of the guys I love to work with.

And the deal he struggles with, this is why I have so much respect for Tom. What he struggles with is the following, Benny. He wants to be a number one. Okay. But he really is a number four. But he has ambition to be the number one. No, he's not a number one. Does he want? No, he does not. Because the pressures of number one, not everybody wants. It sucks. It sucks.

Because all the attacks come to you and all the pressure comes to you. Some people simply do better being 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. And by the way, they shine more as a 2, 3, 4 than they do as a 1. Paul George said, I was never a number one to win a championship. My record says it.

If I was a one, I would have won a championship. I didn't win it. He didn't win as a one. He needed to be a two or three. This guy is a very good two, three, four, but not as a one. To get the job done, Iranians, you're going to keep coming at me and posting stuff, and eventually I'm going to really start saying stuff. And my challenge to all of you guys is, here's what I'm tempted to do, Vinny, Tom, and I haven't even told you guys this. I'm tempted to see about holding a leadership meeting for Iranians

Some of the smartest, most influential Iranians at our office, at the hangar, private, no cameras, nothing. Everybody has to put their phones in. Security, we come in. Nobody has anything. We just sit there and we talk.

of what some of their ideas are. I think to identify who that person is going to be. I'm at that point. I have too many things going on that the chance of me doing this is less than 5%. But that thought crossed my mind. Right now we've got all these things we're doing, family, kids, businesses, all these other things. But it's at that point. Because if you're not going to hold a meeting to rally and unify everybody so we can get on the same page and identify where we're going, what the hell are we doing? And if you can't hold the meeting, it's because you don't carry that kind of weight anymore.

If you call a meeting and you don't carry the weight of people coming, what happened there? Maybe you lost it. Maybe you're not the guy. Maybe you're not the person. So it's a very interesting season right now. So I get it for U.S. and Trump, what he's saying. But Iranians are fed up, and they want that $350 billion of GDP to turn into $2 trillion. That opens up opportunities, places you live, schools your kids go to. Anyways, we'll see what's going to happen with Iran. Adam, go ahead.

Yeah, I encourage PBD to have that meeting. And if you're going to do that meeting, it needs to happen immediately because there's something called Carpe Diem and that sees the day. Here's the biggest challenge that the Iranian people are going to face. Right now, this story is the number one story in the world. You know what's going to happen?

In a week, in two weeks, it's going to be yesterday's news. And everyone's going to forget about the people of Iran. You bring up a great point here. Is this what Trump wants? Does Trump want to get out of this mess, this conundrum of the Middle East? You bet he does. He wants to set his sights on China. And that's what the America First agenda really wants to focus on, not Middle East quagmires. But what do the Iranian people want? The Iranian people want to be free.

Now's the time. I'm telling you right now, if this doesn't happen in the next few weeks, this ain't happening. PPD is absolutely right. This is the closest the Iranian people have been to being free in 46 years. And my thoughts are, unless they take advantage and seize the day in Carpe Diem, they're never going to have freedom ever again. So who benefits from everything that just happened in Iran? Well, Israel definitely benefits because they've eliminated a nuclear holocaust.

USA benefits because they've eliminated a potential threat that so chaos all around the world the world benefits We don't need to have a nuclear Iran despite what the moron joy Reid has to say But you know who definitely doesn't benefit if this thing does not work out in their favor The actual Iranian people because you're starting to see stories that the Iranian regime is starting to take it out on the people who have been cheering and protesting against the regime and

So this is a great case for the Second Amendment, by the way, because that doesn't exist in Iran. So I don't even know how they're going to rise up.

PPD, last point, you bring up a great point. The GDP of Iran is set to soar. I don't know if we can have time to play a clip, but there's an American Iranian businessman who talks about the economic dynamism that could potentially take place in Iran if they basically take the stranglehold of the noose that is around their neck away from the Ayatollah. He talks about catching up to the UAE, Qatar, and in Saudi, not in 46 years, but in the

In basically five to seven years. So the Iranian people want to be free. They're a great people. Ingenuity, smart. They're just being held hostage by the Ayatollah. And unless they take advantage of it... You know what's interesting with what you're saying here? Sure. Here's what's interesting with what you're saying here. Guess who wants those sanctions to remain on Iran? Guess who wants Khamenei to keep saying death upon America? Guess who wants Khamenei to keep making fun of Trump?

Guess who wants Iran and U.S.'s relationship to continue to be bad? Guess who wants that? Qatar, Saudi, Venezuela, everybody else that doesn't want another competitor in the oil market. That's right. That's exactly who also benefits from it. So the, what do you call it, the...

Connect the dots game. Like if you go play American gangster where he's like, you know, Russell Crowe sitting there saying, oh my God, it's Frank Lucas. That's really the person behind blue magic. If you connect the dots, there are a lot of people behind closed doors that want the sanctions to remain that don't want it to open up because they're going to take some business away from them. They don't want that competition. These sanctions are perfect to not have any competition. So if Iran does become free, the Saudi fully want that. Do they maybe, maybe,

Does Qatar really want to lose that business? Do they really, really want to have Iran that's got influence over straight of Hormuz, a fifth of the oil supply that moves from... Do they really want that place to be free?

there's a part of it where it's kind of like, you know how some people are like, man, I hate the fact that this is going on to New York. And the same people that hate the fact that what's going on in New York right now that's about to become the next Dearborn, London, and next Detroit, they're saying, I hope it happens because I just want them to realize what they voted for. I hope it happens. So it's like this thing that's like, you know, and there's a group of people that are like, I hope it happens. They're like,

I hope they figure it out because I don't want these crazy people from New York to come to Florida and flip the state. I don't want you to come to Florida. Stay in New York. I hope it doesn't happen. So these Saudi Qatar states are like, yeah, we want it to be peaceful. We don't want them to have nuclear weapon. But can we kind of keep the sanctions on them so we keep getting this business that we're making? This is the part. So to get the job done, someone's got to be able to rally this whole thing to make it happen. But anyways, we will see what's going to happen. We'll continue. I'm going to get to the next topic here. Daddy.

Daddy. Trump was called Daddy, and not by his wife. Somebody called Trump Daddy. And this is NATO. And he's being asked this question, and the president is laughing. Okay? I don't think this is the one drop. Oh, this is where he calls him Daddy, and then it goes to the next one. Watch this clip here, folks. Go for it. We may do papers on it, Marco. Maybe we're going to do papers. I don't even know if you need them. They're not going to be fighting each other. They've had it.

They've had a big fight, like two kids in a schoolyard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't stop them. Let them fight for about two or three minutes. Then it's easier to stop them. And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language. You have to use strong language. Every once in a while you have to use a certain word. I think we have to join the house. Daddy. It wasn't called in the daddy like a daddy. It's not like call her daddy or call Trump daddy. But it was daddy's got to get it done. But watch this here. This is such a funny moment. And the best part about this clip is...

Try to watch Marco Rubio trying to keep a straight face. Watch this, folks. Go ahead. Focus on Marco Rubio.

Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children? No, he likes me. I think he likes me. If he doesn't, I'll let you know. I'll come back and I'll hit him hard, okay? He did it very affectionately. Daddy, you're my daddy. Do you regard your NATO allies, though, as kind of like children? And they're obviously listening to you and they're spending more. And you're obviously appreciative of that.

But do you hope that actually they're going to be able to defend themselves, defend Europe on their own? I think they need help a little bit at the beginning. All right. So that's that part about the daddy conversation of going back and forth, which is kind of interesting to watch. What's this one, Rob? So this is Mark Rutt, the NATO national security advisor who called Trump daddy in the first place. And here he is explaining why he does believe that Trump deserves the daddy title. Go for it.

Hello. The language that you have used when talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of its flattery. Today you called him daddy. You sent a text message to him that was gushing with praise. Is this the way that you feel you have to act when doing business with the U.S. president through flattery and praise? Isn't it a bit demeaning and doesn't it make you look weak?

No, I don't think so. I think it's a bit of a question of taste, but I think he's a good friend. And when he is doing stuff which is forcing us to, for example, when it comes to making more investments...

Would you ever think that this would be the result of this summit if he would not have been elected president? Do you really think that seven or eight countries who said, yeah, somewhere in the 2030s we might meet the 2%? We've now all decided in the last four or five months to get to 2%. Doesn't he deserve some praise? And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action.

very targeted to make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability. I think he deserves all the praise. Rob, you can pause that. How big of a deal is this, Tom, that he's getting? Just a few years ago, he's calling on NATO. It's like, what's the big deal? Leave them alone. Oh, shit. We're paying more. They're not paying. Why are we paying? Why should we worry about? They're your neighbors. How big of a deal is this?

that even now they're flipping, leaders are defending Trump? Well, I think there's two key angles here. One, there is a demonstrative change that is happening in the way that the foreign leaders and people are responding to Trump. It is different than it was 60 days ago. It's especially different than it was 14 days ago and very, very different from when he...

first stepped in, was talking about tariffs, everybody around the world. This crazy person is talking about tariffs. There has been a big change in that. The second line is, look at the bias of Sky News. That's from the UK. Look at her bias.

Oh, you're calling them your children. Isn't that disrespectful? And then she's talking to him. Oh, don't you think that looks weak? This is not a media searching for an answer. This is not a media looking for how do we get this together to build economic stability to the benefit of all people. This is media looking for a cheap headline as this liberal...

reporter from Sky News has the opportunity to ask questions of two of the major leaders on this stage. She chooses that? That's what she chooses? I have zero respect for her as a reporter. You have an opportunity to cover such big issues. Oh, and you focus on daddy because you're trying to instigate it. Anything but Trump. Anything but Trump. You think she was being unfair? You think she was being a little unfair trying to look for a soundbite?

I'm going to hold back, but yes. And I think you guys know each other. Like, don't hold back, Tom. Yeah. No, it almost seems like it's personal. I think, no, I think that reporter is, is, what's her name? Can we look up this? She is emblematic of what is wrong. Look,

The press of Walter Conkright looked for the story. The press of the history looked to bring transparency to the people. She looks to bring controversy, and she's not alone. She is no different from Joy Reid, a liberal press trying to go after leaders and create headlines and controversies when there's really nothing there. It stops.

And mind you, he didn't call him daddy. He's saying in regards to how he's handling it, they would consider him daddy. She tried to leverage it. Do you think that children... Yes. No, I think that you're being completely immature and childish in the way you're trying to approach this. Meanwhile, it just grates on the media that the world leadership is starting to coalesce and starting to show some respect and starting to come together because...

very good point, Tom. You know what the media is thinking in their rooms when they do prep? Very good point. They're thinking this. Oh, shit. It's working for them. That's right. They're getting along. They're getting progress being made. And they do not want that because they need a little bit of the division. I don't know your relationship with that lady, whether you guys went to school together or any of that stuff. But I agree with the part on what you're saying, the fact that this is bringing nations together.

together. There was a moment that I want to share with you that got, it's a very emotional moment and this lady is talking to the president about her husband being at war and it's such a beautiful exchange. It's such a beautiful, innocent exchange. Rob, I texted it to you. If you can pull this one up,

We moved on from CSUN. I just want you to go. If you can pull this up on the clip, I literally just texted it to you right now. So this reporter is asking a question. She's from Ukraine. She's concerned for her husband.

And look at a president response. I love this. Go for it. Where are you from? Are you living yourself now in Ukraine?

Wow. I can see you're very, you know, it's amazing. Is your husband a soldier now? He's there now? Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's rough stuff, right? That's tough. And you're living here? And you're a reporter?

I am. Good. So let me just tell you, they do want to have the anti-missile missiles, okay, as they call them, the Patriots. And we're going to see if we can make some available. You know, they're very hard to get. We need them too. We were supplying them to Israel and they're very effective, 100% effective, hard to believe how effective. And they do want that more than any other thing, as you probably know. That's a very good question. And I wish you a lot of luck. I mean, I can see it's,

Very upsetting to you. So say hello to your husband, okay? Thank you.

You can see. I love it. Listen, with all the stuff that's happening, that's a genuine... Like, he actually gives a damn about people. I get it. I get it's a crappy situation with everything that we've done with that war. But when he's actually like, so where are you? Is he here? Is there... Nobody really gives a shit. He actually does care. And that's why I love his accent. It was a great moment. Adam, your thoughts on that moment there? So I'll tell you a funny story. One time I'm...

Looking at my phone, I get a call and a text, and it's from someone named Daddy. And it said, come to my office right now. I said, holy shit, what is going on here right now? That was PBD. I don't know. Somehow PBD is in my phone as Daddy. But here's the deal. When Daddy calls, you pick up the damn phone and you listen. This whole conversation around Daddy, I know that they're making a joke. Oh, is he Daddy? Trump is your Daddy. You know, there's the famous podcast, Call Her Daddy. No, no, no, no.

Call him daddy. That's who Trump is at this point. So NATO's calling him daddy. The Latinos in Miami are calling him papi. You know, Usher had a song called Daddy's Home. They're playing that left and right on the interweb. Trump's the man. Trump, undisputably at this point, much like

Not like 2016. Trump is the number one leader in the world unquestionably. In 2016, when Trump was the president, he was getting basically dismantled left and right by his own party, by the Democrats, by the swamp, by the media. This time Trump's coming in and going, you, I'm the man. And I'm going to do whatever I need to do to make the world a better place and protect America and utilize America first. So it turns out that everything that Trump said in 2016, a lot of it is right.

Drain the swamp? Well, it turns out we need to do that. Build a wall? It turns out we need to do that. And in this particular case, make NATO pay? That's exactly what's happening. Because, you know, everyone's talking about the daddy thing, but here's the three biggest takeaways that happened at the actual meeting. Number one, NATO agreed to up their defense spending from 2% to 5% in the next 10 years. That's crazy. So 2035. So what? What?

You were paying a billion dollars. Now you got to pay two and a half billion dollars for your defense. Yes. Their fair share. Whatever it is, their fair share. Pay your fair share. Make NATO pay. Number two, Trump doubled down on exactly what he did in Iran. The world is a safer place. Pete Hagsack came out and said what he had to say. But the last part here, the guy that called him daddy, his name is Mark Root. He's the attorney, the secretary general of NATO.

He basically came out and said, thank you, daddy, for coming here and saving NATO. So, you know, there's a whole conversation of like Anthony McEnany talking about make daddy a sandwich, make daddy a sandwich and let Trump keep doing Trump.

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Daddy's home. By the way, tell them the whole story about why the phone said daddy. Because the user on Apple, when I was flying, it wouldn't let me text. And one of my accounts from 20 years ago, 15 years ago, has daddy in it. But that's a completely different story. Okay, Papi. I see what's going on. So we're going for it. Papi Chulo.

Papi Chulo in Miami. Let's change it to a completely different story, Tom. I'm going to go to the story about Rogan and Liver King. I don't know if you guys are following this closely or not. Rogan is out there minding his own business and then all of a sudden, here's a story, Daily Mail, Netflix star is arrested for unhinged threats to Joe Rogan. Now, Joe Rogan, why would you do that to Joe Rogan? Joe Rogan is a nice guy, loved. I think he's

The one guy that's loved, liked, and respected. He's a trifecta. He's got all the three of them right there. So Rogan gives... Brian Johnson, known as Liver King, a disgraced influencer, was arrested in Austin, Texas for making a terroristic threat. Really, they're using that word. Against podcaster Joe Rogan with Johnson...

posting a video from a hotel room saying, I challenge you today, Joe Rogan, I'm here at Four Seasons in Austin. I'm in the shower. In the shower. He asked, I don't even think he showered. He said he didn't shower, right? He doesn't shower. FU Joe Rogan, you guys can call the cops after blaming Rogan for exposing his 2022 steroid scandal. Johnson threats included a video where he danced and

What appeared to be two gold-plated guns wearing a... Rob, do you have all the videos? I've got the threatened to kill anybody. I've not threatened to kill... Rob, just play this clip because I almost can't read it. Go for it, Rob.

Okay, real quick. P.S. P.S. What I'm hoping is that you, Joe Rogan, are thinking, I'm going to choke that motherfucker out. Lights out. I'm going to choke him out. And I kind of hope that if you win, that's how it happens. Because to wake up from that dream, that's a good feeling. And then anything else that you can break on me.

Break it on me. I hope that you won't feel me tap. That's never happening, tapping, because I have something actually to fight for. Actually, that's my family. I have a principle to fight for. That's what I'm, oh, well, what if he actually does what he's saying?

What if that would be interesting? That would be interesting. What do you have to fight for? You're fighting. I hope you're mad. You should choke me out. You know how to do that. You're trained. You're trained. You've got a black belt. Black belt in jiu-jitsu. I hope you choke me out. And if you don't choke me out, these other limbs will be interesting. Should be very interesting.

That's the P.S. I already thought about my game plan. I don't have a plan. I'm not going to train. I'm not going to train. But I hope you've been training. I'm ready whenever you're ready. There's another one with a cockroach. I don't have the cockroach clip. What's this one? This is another weird clip from the liver king. I believe this is before he left for Austin. This is him at his home where he... I'll show you.

because joe rogan we don't have to make videos to pretend anymore looks totally normal all of this is happening we're coming to you i challenge you man to man to a fight honorable we don't have to pretend or make any videos the world is watching they'll make the videos for us and uh you don't have to hold a camera

You can hold the hand of somebody that you love because what happens next to you, you're going to need to remember that feeling. You're going to need something more than what you did to give you something to fight for because I have my family to fight for. Rob, okay, go to the cockroach one because this one throws me off a little bit. I'm trying to really... Something's wrong. I mean, look, I don't...

Have you ever befriended a cockroach? This is the first time I've ever seen somebody make a friend with a cockroach. But, I mean, everybody has different... Yeah, relationships. Like, we were in Mexico at Oaxaca. Was it Oaxaca? Or, no, we were in Guerrero. We were eating. Mario was having mezcal. This was many years ago. And we were eating crickets, and it was delicious, with lemon and... Really? Yeah, but I've never befriended a cockroach. And in Iran, there's a lot of... Like, in Iran, you would drink Coke. 20% chance there's a cockroach. There's a roach in there.

If you drank coke and... Watch. If you're Iranian, you know this. If you lived in Iran in the 70s and 80s and you drank coke, specifically 80s, 10-20% chance there was a cockroach in a coke. Seriously? If you could get past it, it's fine. But I never befriended one. Go ahead. Let's make Iran great again. Let's get some cockroaches in sodas. Watch this clip here. Very interesting. I don't even know what day it is.

But it's starting. And I'm not going to go to sleep. I am going to sleep. I'm going to rest. But right now, I'm going to fight. I'm going to fight for my family, for what's right. And I'm not going to stop. And I'm going to fight until...

You've never had that relationship before? Okay. Like, you've never had that relationship? Completely lost his mind. By the way, he got arrested, I think, right? Yeah, he was arrested. Can you go back? Is this it? Go for it. Shocker.

What happened here? Is this him? I think Joe's camp called the FBI. Yep, I believe this is at the hotel that he made the videos from. He's being detained. Okay, so that's that part. And then there's one final quick video.

Do you have the Rogan explaining what happened? I could not find that. I'll find it for you. Okay, and while we're looking for that, I have this. This is after he was arrested. He's wearing an ankle monitor while still in Austin, Texas, and continues to threaten to fight Joe Rogan. And before he plays it, Pat, mind you, he has the bond set for $20,000. And yeah, the judge ordered him to stay 200 yards away from his family and surrender any firearms while he's going through mental health evaluation. Go for it.

Rogan vs. Liver King. Again, it's not what you think. I'm talking about the filmmaker, the funny, the actual genius comedian. Good and true. That guy's good and true. I'll pick a funny fight with him. So, we're going to go there for that reason. 200 yards. 200 yards.

restrain myself. I must do. Here's how we do it. If anybody's last name is Rogan and you're in the capital of Austin, Texas, like Capitol Hill stuff place where they make laws like Rogan versus Liver King, where bullies that are big, that don't just do good and true, are held accountable. What's going on here? First and foremost, I know that we're laughing and stuff, but I

I think this is really important to point out. June is men's health, mental health awareness month. Okay. No, I'm being dead serious. It's meant to highlight how serious this stuff is. Okay. We, as men, we bottle stuff up way too long. You know, this month is about breaking that pattern,

It's about reminding guys for asking for help. It isn't weakness. It's survival. Speaking of survival, it's the liver king. But remember, Pat, this guy is 47 years old. He built his brand on the raw meat, the caveman lifestyle. What was it? The tenements and all that stuff. He said he was all natural but found out he was spending $11,000 a month on steroids, and it blew up in his face. It cost him deals. His products all took a huge toll.

Huge hit. Led to lawsuits. But if you haven't seen the Netflix documentary, it's really, really messed up. They got with these agencies to make him big, and he blew up. But it was all on a lie. How much was he spending, Mike? $11,000 on juice time. I mean, you could obviously tell. Wow. And that's a photo of us right there. That's no bike. Look at him. He still looks normal-ish for as normal as he could be. No deodorant. By the way, I had to wash that. That's right. And deodorant would just be $4.99. So it really wouldn't have taken a big hit into that budget. And look how tall he is.

Yeah, no. Vinny's 5'4". This guy, how tall is this guy? And Adam's gay, and he was the furthest away from him. Adam normally, when there's a guy with a shirt on, Adam's normally underneath him. But anyway. Because there's a weapon of ass destruction in there. But guys, on the opposite side, how does this mental...

something's gone. You can see behind his eyes. And you know what he did do? He took ayahuasca, I think in March or May. And I'm telling you guys right now, and people don't understand, that type of stuff can push you over the edge, okay? It's not some spiritual, harmless retreat. It cracks your mind open. It floods your brain with hallucinogens, okay? It can break down your ego and forces you to face stuff, Tom, that's buried deep inside. And some think...

If you're not emotionally there, you know what I'm saying, Malik? If you're on shaky ground, Tom, it can shatter you. Wasn't it three weeks later, two weeks later, he was in Beverly Hills and he broke after us? Am I right? He was in the streets going, I'm on steroids. But it wasn't that long. It was just a couple of weeks, wasn't it?

Yeah. So something, and guys, and you saw it, it was like an emotional, nervous breakdown on the corner of Beverly and horrible. And I'm, and I, and I don't know, listen, I'm not married. I don't know how the relationship thing works. And he's the, he's the alpha. He's in charge of the family, but where's the family? Where's your wife? Where's your, where's your friends? They should be getting involved. Kids were there on the podcast. His wife showed up. Everybody was there. And by the way, right now, I feel better. Like stop him. Yeah.

Yeah, Adam, go for it. I got a few things I want to say about this, which is very difficult, but go ahead, Adam. Here's my thoughts on the liver king. So he's, at the end of the day, just a pure savage animal, and I say that in a respectful way. When he came to the podcast, I remember that podcast, he came with his wife and kids, the liver queen, I believe is what she's called.

and his family you know people you mention a movie all the time it's called primal fear yeah with richard gear and edward norton you talk about that movie quite often don't you yeah but he's dealing with you're seeing the animal instincts of primal fear don't get it twisted this this toughness this this this this rage uh is masking his genuine primal fear that everything he's built and everything he's worked on in his entire family could potentially be taken away

whether it's accusations, whether it's steroids, whether it's money, um, his survival instincts are kicking in and he's using Joe Rogan as sort of the avatar for the world attacking him. So in, in my opinion, uh, he is close to the edge because in his mind, his primal instincts are taking over. He's fears that everything he's built will be gone. And his, uh, love for his family is being masked by rage. Uh,

slippery slope that he's on, and I wish him the best, and I hope he gets out of this mess. It's not looking good.

No, yeah, and I was just trying to look and see if I can find that date, but it was just a matter of weeks where we just absolutely had a nervous breakdown where the whole – it seems like the curtain opened and they discovered that it was a charade, that it wasn't just eating mostly liver and other organ meats and working out. It was – man, that may have given you stacks of animal fat –

and protein and animal muscle protein. But you were just you were juiced beyond juiced and to the point of of having, you know, psychological effects on you. And I felt bad. I actually felt bad. I don't have pity

but I'm like, wow, you know, the guy broke. The thing broke. And now he's searching for significant. He's lashing out. The thing that was nearest was Rogan. It's terrible. It's actually terrible to see this. Rogan said everyone has been reaching out to have

him on the podcast. He says friends are even asking, hey, do you want to have Liver King on the podcast or not? He says, no, I don't want to have him on the podcast. And that was kind of like one way of whether he was not happy about not getting on the Rogan podcast, et cetera, et cetera. It's kind of made him upset. It would break records. Yeah. I don't think it would actually. No. I actually think it's the opposite. I don't think it would break records.

I don't think that many people are interested in this conversation. I don't think it's something that's going to do extremely well. And I would be the one to say it. And I've spoken to Johnson many times, Brian, outside of our podcast, just basic conversations, things that he... I haven't spoken to him for probably five, six months, seven months, but I've spoken to him outside of the podcast. Here's what I would tell you. You have to be very careful about. The way life works and limelight works and attention works and...

Success works. There is a documentary. If you've never seen it, I've recommended it to so many people, and most people have never heard about it before. It's called The Provocateur. It's the story of Morton Downey Jr., okay? You've heard me talk about it three or four times. Whatever you do, go watch this documentary. Before there was Alex Jones, before there was any of these podcasters that are blowing up, before there was Pat McAfee, before there was...

the Becks of the world, before there was any of these guys, there was a guy named Morton Downey Jr. And for 18 months, Morton Downey Jr. was number one. He beat Oprah Winfrey. He beat Montel Williams, who used to be number one. He beat out so many people, it was insane. And the way he did it

was to evoke. He would instigate. He would get in Ron Paul's face. You ever seen a clip of what he does to Ron Paul, Rob? I mean, when Ron Paul was in his 30s, he went on Morton Downey Jr.'s. Have you seen this clip? No. Okay. He would smoke like four or five packs a day. During the show.

Oh, no, no. During the show. This guy, Morton Downey Jr. So a young guy. Can you find, is that the one, Rob? How many minutes is it? Oh, shoot. You got to go to. So fast forward when Ron Paul gets upset and he gets in the space. Right there. Go back a little bit. Go back a little bit. Go back a little bit. Right there. Go back a little bit more. A little bit more. Right there. Press play. This is how he was. Watch this. Press play.

The guy looks like he just came from Emmett Kelly's funeral. You're avoiding the issue when you attack his clothes. Stick to the issue. The issue is across the street. I'll stick to the issue, pal. If I had a slime like you in the White House, I'd puke on you. By the way, look at him. So this is who he was. He was a provocateur. And then eventually, you know how he falls? Do you know the story about how he falls? So his ratings take a hit.

And when his ratings take a hit, he's no longer getting the same attention that he did for about a month. Do you know the story, Rob, or know what he does? He goes in an airport bathroom, asks his producer to shave a part of his hair, to cut some part of his hair, and put like with a marker swastika on his back.

and says white nationalists right there, look with swastika on his face, and claims that he was attacked at the airport by white nationalists or Nazis or something. Not Nazis. I don't know who it was, Robb.

And then to pull a juicy smoothie. Yeah. And by the way, he blows like, oh, my God. You know, because of what I'm talking about, they hate me. They want to stop me. I was like, holy shit, this guy's blown up. And what ends up happening? His producers like that. I can't keep this life for this long. They go on Phil Donahue and he admits the fact that this was all a lie. Never happened. This isn't new on what's going on with Liver King. There is nothing more addicting than attention. Mm hmm.

There's nothing more addicting than becoming a celebrity and people recognizing you. And oh my God, there's nothing more addicting than a woman who does 78 surgeries to try to go back and look like the way she did at 25 years old because she misses that attention. The attention that you get...

eventually doesn't become the same. And if you go like this and use something like you did, and all you have to do is say, I use juice. That's it. That's all you have to do. All you have to do is know, I'm using syrup. Remember when I talked about his abs? I'm like, dude, do you have something in here? Yeah. Like Oscar De La Hoya said what? I got a surgery done. Look at this. It looks good. All you have to do is be straight up about it. But no, the attention got to him. It went. Didn't know how to handle it. And unfortunately, he's going through this right now. And it doesn't look like it's going to end well.

The way this story is going, it's going to end up being very nasty. I hope it doesn't end nasty. I hope the right people can get a hold of him. I hope what you were talking about earlier, good friends come in and sit down and have a conversation with you and things change. But until then, we pray for him. And we hopefully, again, family, kids, wife, brothers, siblings, are able to get a hold of him, have a conversation with him. All right.

But by the way, as much as this is a lot of hate that he got for it, I will still continue eating liver, and I love liver. I will never get away from my Chagat, and I like to eat it super rare. I make it. 30 seconds. Boom. Take it. Boom. Cut it. Blood. We eat it. It's phenomenal. Grass-fed, grass-finished. Can I apologize to Vinny real quick? I'm sorry for lashing out at you, man. I didn't mean that. It's okay. Part of why I said that was because when the Liver King was here, Vinny,

You promised to bring us liver to the show. I know. And you've never done it. And this was me. It's actually a good point. And Adam, I apologize. I'm an angry Jew. We're having a moment here, folks. And I, dude, and Adam, I so... I believe as an angry patriot, you'd understand, no? I apologize for calling you homosexual, even though it's Pride Month. Oh my gosh, I'm going to cry.

Sorry. Kill me now. Tom, stop it. Go ahead. All right. I'm going to get to the next story here. I'm going to get to the next story. Tom, Austin Metcalf's suspected killer indicted on first-degree murder charge in track stabbing. Go ahead and play the clip, Rob. Go for it. Good afternoon. Earlier this spring, our community was shaken by what happened at a school track meet in Frisco. The violent laws of 17-year-old Austin Metcalf.

For weeks now, my team has been presenting evidence to the grand jury. And today I summarize that evidence and I asked the grand jury to return a first degree murder indictment against Carmelo Anthony, which they did. With this indictment, the case now moves formally into the court system. From this point forward, we'll continue doing our job both fully and fairly to pursue justice under the law. As for the scheduling of the trial, that will be up to the court. But when the time comes, we will be ready. Now we know that this case has struck a deep nerve

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You know what his voice sounded like? Like a sleep machine? Sunday school for kids, like a Sunday school teacher. You're trying to put the kids to an hour nap. That would have put me down. Tom's out. We pray. Tom's up. A criminal 18 years old, athlete from First Coast High School, was indicted for a

Awesome. They have a 17-year-old junior in Memorial High School with Collin County County District, Greg Williams. So, Vinny, this story here, your thoughts on what we know about this story. Okay, actually, like, so remember when it first happened? And me and Tom were talking about this yesterday. Everybody was all

especially the the the african-american community especially those people like i don't know if it was his attorney or somebody this freaking guy who's been arrested multiple times i think it was attempted murder something rob if you could help me find out who this guy was and the whole story was as we always said the the black kid was the victim okay he was there he was approached by the white guy the white guy tried to get tough and he stabbed him in self-defense okay now allegedly the uh

There's video showing that there was no threat, that he was just standing there talking to him, and this guy took out a knife that he brought to a track meet for no reason. Video shows. They're saying that there's footage because, Pat, for them to come back with an indictment for first-degree murder, you know what that means? They have sufficient evidence to say, okay, we're seeing what we're not seeing with the...

the public always tries to say, which it's sufficient enough to take in. And I know this from people that are lawyers, and one of them, Selena, who's on MNEC, that they hate going to trial the state, Pat, if they don't have a home run in

hit, meaning they think that it's over 90% that they're gonna win, okay? And this kid died in his twin brother's arms, okay? And still the media tiptoed around it and tried to act like, no, it was just BS. And this is what pissed me off. The family pulled in

$515,000. The public, without knowing any evidence, without seeing one freaking video, they're like, let's send this family money because we think that this kid is innocent. So they paid for the legal fees, the rent, security, relocated them to a gated community, which I believe was $3,500 a month. And the campaign was run by Jacob Wells.

And they're not getting any of that cash until it hits $600,000. But anyway, just the bottom line is, it's all smoke and mirrors. Okay, the media would rather hype up the racism than show or wait for the evidence. Okay, and it just drives me crazy that in those moments, all the race card gets promoted, but nobody waits for the evidence. And God bless the father of Jesse Metcalf. I still got to give that guy credit back.

Because regardless of everything that happened, he did get a little bit choked up. But he said, we have to pray for this kid. We have to pray for this kid's family and hope that this kid sees the light, even though in the darkness of what he did, the crime that he did. Because his father knows what was up because his brother told him what happened. So I just hope justice is done. And again, I have to pray for this guy and hope that he finds some love in his heart for everything that he just did. And by the way, his GoFundMe, Rob, is that correct that they raised...

The goal was $1.396 million. They raised $538,000. Yep. Does that money end up going to them whether it gets finalized or not? Do you know if that money gets activated or no? I don't know if...

That's a very good question. I think you could just stop the campaign whenever you want, Rob, and take the money. If I'm not mistaken. Because I've done it when we raised the money for the guys. And what is the level of accountability for the money? I don't think they give two shits. Pat, all they worry about is the moment of, okay, transaction and give, send, go or whatever gets the money percentage. And then it goes there.

All right. To the family. Tom, do you have thoughts on this? Yeah, this is called due process. And everybody says, I was denied due process. I was denied due process.

Look, this was not the DA bringing it. This was a DA going to a grand jury, and there were eyewitnesses. But what there also was, they were at a track meet, and other people with camera phones taking pictures of their own children and things happening. And grand jury got a hold of the rest of that and saw him reach into the bag and do things. So the DA came back and said, I have a very strong case against

And by the way, it's not just aggravated assault resulting in murder. No, it's not murder to getting angry and doing it. No, it's murder one. And murder one is the highest, most difficult bar requires revenge,

premeditation and specific intent that is fully planned and contemplated. And so due process took place here because the process normally is you have a rest, you have booking, you have the

the district attorney or in this case, a grand jury coming make it down. But instead, we we had a bunch of other steps inserted in there. This grandstanding is not part of due process spin by the media. That's not part of due process creating raising a legal defense fund. Now, this is legal. It is perfectly legal to go to give send or other places and

and raise a legal defense fund if you think someone has been wronged and you don't want them to use the public defender, you want to make sure they can hire other, you know, assumably more competent people. But due process is flowing here. And the DA, I applaud him for being very measured and specific and then saying you are innocent until proven guilty and this is the charge.

that we believe we're going to prove. But the next step is court. So I think we all have to remember there's another victim here, right? The victim is Austin Metcalf and everything that's there. But the other victim is whatever happened to this young man who's going to be on the permanent payroll of the U.S. government or the Texas correctional

system to the tune of 45 to 50 grand a year for the rest of his life. And so you have to remember he's about to enter crime college.

And so I just see a lot of victims here. And what happened to this young man that he got himself to the point that before he's ever really a full-blown 21-year-old individual out in society, that he has the capacity to get to such a dark place and to go down and do this. And so that's what I think. For everybody complaining about due process, it's here and it's running. Shut up. Adam.

Yeah, well, justice was served. Go for it, Adam. Tom's got a temper today. I'm listening to you. Go for it. Sir, sorry. So justice was served. What they tried to do, as Vinny pointed out, was try to make this into a race thing.

They really tried to turn this into a race thing. You know, Peabody, on the podcast we did Tuesday, you talked about how everyone has bias. Yep. You're so right. All right, this person has bias. What side are they on? How do they develop their relationships? What issues do they process? Bias, bias, bias. There's people out there that genuinely saw a black kid versus a white kid, and they go, I got the black kids back.

Straight up. Doesn't matter that he murdered somebody. Doesn't matter that he just got convicted of first degree murder. I'm on his team. I'm going to donate money. What? So he tried to raise, I think, over a million dollars. They raised a half a million dollars. There were people that were simply coming to his fence because he was black. There's no other reason. He just got convicted of first degree murder. By the way, the same people could also be guilty on the other side. There's people, oh, he's white. We got to defend the white guy.

Let justice persevere. They call it blind justice. Justice was served. This gentleman, this young kid, this 17-year-old ruined his life.

He took somebody's life. He ruined the life of the family. This kid had a twin brother, did he not? Austin Metcalf? Twin brother. What does that kid have to do? What does that kid have to do when he looks in the mirror every single day and sees his brother's face, his dead brother's face? So justice was served. We all have bias. And I think people should check their bias before they weigh in on situations. Am I biased on this because he's black or white or Christian or Jewish or Muslim? Probably yes. Yes.

But thank God in the United States, we don't care about bias. We care about justice. And just to clarify, there was a GoFundMe set up for Carmelo Anthony. It was taken down once it reached six figures. Estimated was about $160,000 before GoFundMe removed it because their policy bans fundraisers for violent crimes defense. And to answer your question, Pat, there is no automatic accountability for how the money is spent on Give, Send, Go. It's up to the fundraiser organizer to be transparent.

but there's no built-in oversight so as for the goal you don't have to wait for it to hit the goal you can access the cash whenever you want and by the way i appreciate adam's point i appreciate adam in the middle of your point you may not have realized that you said convicted he's actually been indicted and the next step is the full trial yeah so okay thanks for that correction we'll see what happened here uh next story i want to get into folks this is a this is a story that may be a boring story but it has to do with your money you may want to pay attention to it because it's

You have to understand them. So U.S. liability insurance on virtual breakdown,

from tide of claims, okay, from tide of claims that they're getting, okay? And remember, all these people are in business to make money. You have a job. You don't do it for free. You work to make money so you can pay the bills. Companies build businesses to make money. And if they don't make money, they either go bankrupt, they sell to somebody else that has money, or they find a way to raise the prices, fire people, make some kind of adjustments, right? Right.

The U.S. casualty insurance market, which protects businesses against legal claims from employees, customers, or other harmed by operations or products, faces a potential breakdown. Everest Chief of Executive Jim Williamson warning, it won't be a question of how much we're willing to pay. The cover won't be available. Prices rose 8% in the first quarter, making 23 consecutive quarters of increases today.

Despite insurance introducing exclusions for claims like data privacy violations and forever chemical pollutants, Williamson noted no one will offer it at any price, citing a surge in payouts driven by what he called fraud, legal systems, abuse, and runaway jury verdicts. Insurers are grappling with rising claims, promoting Everest to set aside $1.7 billion in reserves for losses and raise excess liability insurance rates by 20%.

to 25% annually, with Williamson stating that's an enormous inflationary factor for business. Tom, your thoughts on this? Well, first of all, there's two problems here. The first problem here is it's not the runaway jury.

The runaway jury is the end because that's a jury that's been selected of the people who are empaneled to listen to a case. And anybody who's registered to vote or has a driver's license and is a citizen can end up on a jury. That's a jury doing its job, and they call it runaway victim. The issue is the lawyers in that courtroom. And the lawyers in that courtroom, which they're referred to as white-collar ambulance chasers –

who are bringing claims against companies just for the insurance. And Pat, what's very interesting, and we'll say here full disclosure, over the years, we've actually done business with Marsh. Marsh has provided insurance to some of the nine companies that Pat has founded and led. And so what's interesting here, we've seen this firsthand, where they're saying, hey, guys, we're going to put the cyber insurance on a secondary policy. Remember that, Pat? If you will accept...

to the following limits and protect yourself in the following ways. So we actually increased our own software and security so that we could be, get a better price, similar to if you show your car has an alarm system, you're a good driver and you're in a locked garage, you can reduce the cost of your own car insurance because you're reducing the risk of loss. And so what's happening here is the U.S. liability insurance companies are blaming it all on

the

the attorneys that are bringing these cases and things here. That's only part of it. The other part of it is greater education is needed with the companies that are insured. We went out and didn't just accept the bid. Pat always says, hey, get three bids for everything and don't let a single vendor do business with you year after year and maybe get too comfortable assuming that you're just going to say, yeah, just renew me, just renew me. Go out and do it. Companies

Companies need to go out and find out the things we could do because we reduce some of our rates through active examination of our own self to make ourselves more appealing to be assured. But this is bad, bad at the bottom line. This is bad because you've got these companies are necessary to cover business. And it's a cost of doing business that if this cost keeps rising, it shows up in the cost of the product.

Yeah, it does. And I remember for us, when we would sell an insurance product of a company, and we loved it. We do such a good job selling a product, and all of a sudden they're like, nope, we're shutting down this product. Why? It's not profitable. What do you mean? We've sold thousands of this policy. I know, but it's not profitable. Remember the 35-year ROP that we have, return of premium, that our guys used to love to sell? I can give you so many different annuities. From a certain Midwest carrier. That's right. And all of a sudden, they would announce this. So this happens regularly.

And typically the reason why this happens with insurance companies is because of abuse by customers or regulation because of states. So abuse by customers happens regularly. Abuse by states is what you notice happening with California where they're forcing them to not raise certain prices. And the fair plan. That's right. And the fair plan. And carriers are just saying, I'm out of here. Adam, your thoughts on this here, on this story.

Well, we've all been in the insurance business, Pat, Tom, myself. I don't know about Vinny, but I'm sure he got a discount double check from State Farm. Yeah. But we understand the basic premise of insurance. It's to protect your ass and your assets. So I apologize. But you know what always happens?

Shit happens. You ever heard that phrase before? Why do you need insurance? It's because stuff is going to happen that you're not planning for. So everyone has a plan. You know that whole phrase? Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face.

Mike Tyson, life is going to give you lemons and you're not always going to be able to afford lemonade is what they're basically saying. You know, I talk about the six principles of wealth and do these six things and then you're going to be able to have financial freedom. Number five is insurance and protecting your ass and protecting your assets. We've seen Geico and all these companies try to leave California, homeownership, home insurance, car insurance. We devalue things that we don't necessarily enjoy.

or need until we actually need them. I can't understate the importance of insurance. And until it basically leaves your state, becomes unaffordable, you can't have it anymore, you don't realize what you actually need is the protection that insurance offers. So this is just one more example of what's happening in the insurance markets. Yeah. So listen, I was going to go to Vinny because Vinny had a very in-depth 20-page slide analysis. Let me ask you, Pat.

I don't want to bore the hell out of everybody. I don't want to do that. It's too technical. I have charts. I can't. I got diagrams. We don't want to do this. With your permission, are you okay if we skip this? Yeah, because my numbers scream. Today it's annoying. I don't want to do that. We can get you a whiteboard and you can calculate the loss reserve for us. I'll do that. I'll do it in a how-to after. Maybe over lunch. Let's go to this last story and we'll wrap up here. Rogan.

gives decisive take on MAGA civil war on Iran bombing let me go over here he only has two more months if you listen to Chris Cuomo he has two more months to being on top and then let's see if Chris's prediction comes to pass let me read this here so podcaster Joe Rogan supported by Congressman Thomas Massie's opposition to President Trump's involvement in Israel-Iran conflicts sitting on the podcast go ahead and play the clip go for it right here

I think the whole MAGA thing right now is very divided, particularly because one of the things that they voted for was no war. Well, now it seems like we're in a war, right? And it's quick. We're six months in, and that's already popped off. And then people are very concerned with now what happens to our troops overseas that are in these bases, that are in vulnerable positions. Is that the clip? That was it.

Okay. So Vinny, your thoughts on this clip here by Rogan. Actually, no, Adam, I'm going to come to you first because this was your story. Go to Vinny first. Okay, pal. And let's just be honest. And how many times have I said this? I've been supportive of Trump since 2016. I was in Los Angeles where it was not only not cool, people were punching people in the head for, for wearing red hats that weren't even make America great again. I was freaking, uh, they tried to attack, but we were deeper and we know how to fight way better. Um,

I would get off stage at certain comedy clubs. I don't want to say the names, but if I said anything positive about Trump or anything, the owner, Tommy, would go up to me and be like, hey, you can't do this. And then I would have Persian, I'd do like the Persian night at this place or Middle Eastern night. And there'd be guys up like, man, you in Cherump, you can go to... And then it was funny, once shit started going bad in California, he was like, you know what?

F Biden, he would switch and everything switch. But just and this is why I want people to realize you can like Trump. You could like the policies, which I love a huge amount of policies. If there's certain things that you don't like, that's totally fine. You don't have to agree with everything. Was it that blind loyalty? And I get where he's saying. I don't think it's that hardcore divided. People get disappointed because you want politics.

You want every single promise made. I personally, on top of everybody else, I want zero ground troops. Everybody knows where I stand. I want zero wars. But sometimes, guys, and it sucks to say it,

What Adam says, shit happens. Okay? And I've gotten to the point, and I know people are going to talk shit. I'm not saying war. I still don't want no war. But we have to understand, when there's a freaking group of people, if somebody walked up to us right now and we're at this house, and somebody goes, yo, you know what? I'm going to kill everybody in this house. Whenever I get a chance, whenever I get the guns, I'm going to come back here and kill everybody in this freaking house.

I can't just go, okay, yo, peace out, dog. We'll see you. No, no. That is a threat to me, Tom. And guess what? I take threats like that serious. So I can understand where people right now are like, no. And I saw Candace's thing jumping out and not.

saying that I regret telling people to vote or mad about the vote so you just forget about everything else you forget about the border you forget about the fentanyl deaths that are by the way the border is shut down okay the economy is coming back I know we have clips we're not probably not gonna be able to get it all the tariffs everything is starting to come around nato everybody's coming around this one situation which mind you not one American soldier has ever

Touched ground. Yes, there was two, what? I'm going to say, let's say, what? Tom, six to eight, maybe ten people in the B-52 bombers going and then coming back. And again, I don't want any new wars. This is something that the president, which I trust his judgment, let him cook at him. We always say this. Let him cook. I trust him. He's America first. He gives a shit about people. And I love people trying to throw that whole, well, the Epstein thing. And, you know, Elon said something, so that means he's on the Epstein list, and that's why he's kissing Bibi's ass.

no no donald trump i don't give a shit what anybody says out of all of them is america first go back and look at the footage from the early 90s late 80s i love america i love america and all the talk shows that won't even let his ass come on right now he's america first and yet people are disappointed but disappointment doesn't mean regret your freaking vote and jump ship stay the fucking course sorry for my language pat and let him do his thing bro america is a

a thousand times better than what it was the past four years with joe biden and the auto pen all the shit that we found out that he wasn't even behind the wheel so that's how i feel all right adam thoughts and by the way is that the rub you pulled up that clip which clip is this this is candace owen saying she regrets having people vote for come on go for it play the clip are you done with donald trump or could you see a way that you would end up perhaps voting for him oh you can't run again obviously but would you support him publicly again

I want to be clear. I don't regret voting for Donald Trump above Kamala. I think he was the better candidate, certainly a better candidate above Joe Biden. But what I will say is that he's been a chronic disappointment. And I feel embarrassed that I told people to go vote for him because this wasn't going to happen and it is happening. But I just think that the picture of

Okay, Adam, your thoughts about what Rogan said and then what Candace said. Well, yeah, I wonder if Candace is going to take back her wrong words on that. I think she should because she's abandoning Trump. Nobody voted for you, Candace. Everyone voted for Trump. So what's getting lost in translation here with Trump, Trump's not a pacifist. Trump's not a pussy. Trump recognizes the threat and will eliminate them. Wasn't Trump the took out General Soleimani?

We talked about that the other day. Where were the foreign entanglements when he did that? Wasn't Trump the president who took out ISIS that Obama let occur in the Middle East and said it was a JV team? Wasn't it Trump that took out ISIS? Where were you on that? I think one thing's abundantly freaking clear. Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith, all the neo-non-interventionalists these days. Trump is not George W. Bush.

He's not going to get us in endless wars. He's not going to continue the foreign entanglements. So when Trump promises no new wars, that doesn't mean he's not a pussy and that he's not going to fire a bullet or take out nuclear weaponry if it needs to be done. He's demonstrated the ability to act targeted and strategic and take out enemies and move the hell on. We're not putting ground troops in Iran. That was never a thing.

This, this, this outreach. Oh my God, it's World War III. You need to get all your kids out of the, you need a D enlist from the army. Stop it. You're selling fear porn to the American public that by the way, if you look at any freaking poll is overwhelmingly in favor of making sure that Iran does not get nuclear weapons.

So Trump is not a pacifist. He'll do what needs to get done. He's running the show. No one else is, Tucker, Candace, Dave Smith. Trump's the man. And for all the people that voted for him, stick with your guy. I'm sticking with him. Thoughts, Tom. By the way, Candace, last thing. Candace, just let me say one thing. I feel bad for her. I'm sorry. But she was just recently diagnosed with a severe condition, I feel, for her.

It's called IDS, Israel Derangement Syndrome. And it's lethal. It's deadly. Trump talked about this, Trump Derangement Syndrome. You know, first it takes over the mind and then it comes for the body. And I wish her well. I hope that she can take some aspirin and get out of this. But right now, all she's doing is blaming everything on Israel. And it's very unattractive.

Well, I didn't hear that part in this particular clip, and I'll just respond to this. She's saying, I don't regret voting for Trump. He was the better candidate over all of that, Biden and Kamala Harris.

And then she says, I personally feel embarrassed that I encourage people to vote. So that's where I see kind of the chasm here. And if I was sitting here having a cup of coffee with her, I'd say, Candace, you say you don't regret voting, but you regret getting other people to vote. Well, if those other people didn't vote, we don't get the outcome.

Something else would have happened. Don't you see that? Now, I know you can say now you feel like you're taking criticism because, oh, all these things are happening in Candace and you told us to vote for him. Well, what's the alternative? And I think Candace needs to get back to that. What would have the alternative been? So I'm I'm

I don't agree with this. You know, I'm not going to go heavy on the criticism, but I don't agree with the angle here. I'm not embarrassed that I convinced, you know, a particular member of my family to vote for Trump. I'm not embarrassed at all because I'm

I'm sticking with the, and I know this is like an MBA thing, trust the process because things are happening. And we started this podcast talking about how things are coming together. Things are starting to coalesce. And so it's like, and now let's look at it 60 days from now. And then let's look at that 60 days after then. And let's see what's happening. And in the middle of the fog of war right now, Kristi Noem made a comment about an agreement and things that are very economically beneficial. We just did with Costa Rica. So behind that,

the fog of it all, there's a lot of things going on. And so I'm not embarrassed that I encourage a particular member to vote it. It's okay. I don't think you should be embarrassed. It's going to be okay. It's going to be a gift for all of us. But here's what I would say, Adam. It's not your fault.

You know what I look at when I'm looking at you on the picture? Tom, I'm going to give you permission to say it's okay to vote for Trump. I've been encouraging you to vote for Trump for eight years, Tom. I love how you made sure Tom's statue was in the podcast with you. I love that. Because that's all I'm looking at when I look at you. I'm right up there. He's right next to me. But let me take us about what Rogan said to Bernie and then what Candace said with Piers. Here's a couple things to keep in mind. When it comes down to Candace, I don't know if Candace has to be worried about

supporting Trump because I don't know if Candace really fully drove people to go vote for Trump. If I go back and recall, Candace wasn't fully, fully all-in, supportive, gung-ho, beginning to the end. That did not happen. It wasn't a fully aggressive, hey, you know what I'm saying? Not at all. Not this time. I don't think she did that. So she doesn't need to worry about that because she wasn't supportive and she didn't really push people. Yes, when we did our election night...

and she was there and people were there and then she posted a tweet i think that said hey congratulations trump won once it was over with yes she was very much a in a celebratory mood and it was optimism excitement him herself dave smith was there and we had you know alex jones jenck huger dominic tarjanski we had a lot of people there that day i think we even had uh um

Brian Callen, Cuomo, a lot of people. Tom did a phenomenal job that night. Tommy did a phenomenal job that night. But going back to that with Candice. Thank you for investing in that. Yeah, I don't think I see Candice as she...

She was like someone that did, and now it's a disappointment, right? Dave Smith at the Libertarian Conference, Trump was there. He brought Trump up. There was some booze. And then when Trump started saying stuff about getting rid of, you know, Gensler, and then everybody started screaming, and then he said it again. That was a turn when things turned around. So, you know, Dave Smith, yes, supported a little bit more than Candace did publicly, in my opinion, and I don't...

I haven't watched all of them. There may be clips where it's full-on, Candace saying 100% Trump vote, all this stuff. But let's go back to what Rogan said. I don't have any problem with it. I don't have any problem with it. I think Thomas Massey has a different position than the president. He's not supportive of the big, beautiful bill. Thomas Massey is not for what AIPAC does. Thomas Massey is not a friend of AIPAC, nor supportive of what AIPAC does. And Thomas Massey has the right to deliver his message.

and give his insight of what he believes is happening. And then this leads to what? Here's what this leads to, Vinny, Tom, Adam. All of this leads to everyone's number one issue. Some people's number one issue is what? Economy. That's most people. Some people's number one issue is what? Immigration. No problem. Some people's number one issue was Israel. In 2028, we're going to find out

How much Americans' number one issue is what's your number one issue? I'd love to see Thomas Massey run. I'd love to see Candace run. I'd love to see J.D. run, Rubio run. I'd love to see Vivek Bakadad run. I'd love to see a lot of people run. And I'd love to see all these issues getting filtered out.

and see what happens. Make sense? And then you're going to sit there and say, whoa, I thought it was 50% of people supporting that issue. It's really only 13%. It's not that big. Because we can post, the best way to test this, folks, it's such a weird dynamic. I can post the same thing on X website

and get 70% of people that will hate the same post, and I can post it on Instagram, and 80% supports it. It's like you're in two different countries, okay? And America is not all on X. We all think that everybody on X is what determines what America is. It's not true.

The climate on YouTube is different than the climate on LinkedIn, is different than the climate on Facebook, is different than the climate on TikTok, is different than the climate on all these different places. You may post that same thing on X and miserably lose if you post it on LinkedIn. And on LinkedIn, they're like, no, I'm actually not with it because LinkedIn voters are more what? They're more logical business. They're like, no, I can't. And I guess who you're going to need the job creators to support your positions.

You're going to need the job creators to say, yeah, this is right. You know, the investment and all this other stuff, that's true. And the job creator is going to be like, nah, I don't know if I'm with it. So I actually don't have any problem with everything that's taking place. I think it's good to have the debate, the discourse. But at the end of the day, within time, people realize who was right, who was not, who took the right position. In 2016, I can think about a lot of influencers that went hardcore against Trump,

And they lost seven years. They literally lost seven years and had to recover from it. Seven years later, I think that's going to happen in this next cycle as well, the next two, four, six, eight, ten years, to see where and what market, like what communities does the audience watch and say,

This person or that person seems to be the most willing to entertain opposing ideas, and they have the ability to reason, and they have certain biases, which is fine, and they're willing to present their argument. And this is where I lean with them. I disagree with them here, but I agree with them here, but I think they're fair here. I think that's what the next phase is. This is the same reason why the Austin Metcalf and the Carmelo Anthony thing that they try to turn into the next, what do you call it, Jussie Smollett or the next...

You know, next black-white division. It didn't work because Americans are like, you've done this so many times, we're done with this. Same thing's going to happen in 2028. And I think Rogan is still going to be number one. I think this whole thing about what Cuomo's worried about, I think that too. Rogan has still got an audience that's very different than everybody else's. Adam, I want to go to the signatures before I wrap up. So that's the only thing I want to go to before I wrap up. Rob, what page is that one on? Can you tell me what page? Actually, you know what? Do I want to go to signatures or teachers' union?

Vinny, do you have a lot of stuff on the signatures? I don't have a lot. I mean, I could just very briefly just say what it is. Rob, where's that signatures article? That is page 10 in the Joe Biden auto pen section. All right, let's go to the Joe Biden auto pen section. Where's that at page 10? I don't see the Joe Biden auto. Oh, there it is. Okay. So ex-Biden aide.

Neera Tanden tells Oversight Committee she was authorized to use auto-pem. Whoa. Little weird. Rob, do you have the clip of this? Yes, this is her outside of the testimony yesterday where she is asked if she helped in the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive decline. Whoa. Go for it. Just spoke with the House Oversight Committee, Majority and Minority Council. I answered every question, was pleased to discuss my public service, and...

It was a thorough process and I'm glad I answered every question. Is there an evidence to disguise President Biden's condition? Absolutely not. Look at her walk away. Look at that. What did he ask?

Were you helpful in the cover-up of Joe Biden's cognitive condition? And she said, absolutely not. And then just walks right in. How? Like, okay, you want to talk about body language? Do you see that? For sure. By the way, so she testified that for 20 months, guys, think about this. And who knows, this is just one instant. From October 2021 to May 2023, she used the auto pen to sign off on, are you ready for this? Documents that included pardons. Wow.

Hey-oh! Pardons, executive orders, and more. Some of it's obviously behind closed doors, so we can't see it. She claimed that she was authorized to do it, and she said she would pass along decision memos to Biden's inner circle before using the auto pen. Think about that. She would write a memo saying, this is what I'm going to have him sign for. Is it cool? And not the president, guys. An intermediary...

People in the middle, I just messed up that word, would tell him, I mean, he probably wouldn't even tell him, probably saw that, that word just, my brain tried to do it. But he wasn't, he was, and the point is, the problem is, was he even given the authorization to let, you know what I mean, for whatever she was doing? So the White House insists that it was all above board.

That Biden personally approved everything. But now the oversight is pressing hard and asking who was really running the country. And so, by the way, this is what we've been saying the whole time. This is what Jake Tapper and everybody has to be like, oh, my God, we didn't know, but we had to report on it. But I'm just, and again, and this is what we're talking about, what people voted for and all that stuff. One of the main ones for me, Pat, besides politics,

the border, besides the Epstein and the lists and all that type of stuff, which I'm still waiting and hopeful that we get the actual answers. It was this type of stuff. It was the pardons that were giving to freaking Hunter Biden, the entire Biden regime, the whole family, shifty shift, the January 6th committee, and Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Okay, I want this. This to me, Tom, is pressing. This is at the top of my list because you know me when it comes to accountability. I want all these people to be held freaking accountable. And I think this is a little crack in the ship that's going to make it come down. I think it's going to happen. Very interesting to see what's going on here. So, Rob, what was the other clip that you had? This is Scott Perry. What's in this clip, Rob? This is him explaining what the House Oversight Committee is investigating in regards to the auto pen use. Okay, go for it.

at them in the context of did Joe Biden actually have any clue about what the auto pen was signing or were they doing it on his behalf? And, you know, everybody's going to hunker down. Everybody's going to be tight, tight lipped about that. And so it's going to be hard to determine. I mean, Joe has already said that, you know, he knew all of this stuff, but we know that he signed Hunter's pardon.

BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE A PEN. HE HAD A PEN WITH HIS OWN HAND. BUT THE OTHER ONES WERE AUTO PENS. SO WE DON'T KNOW IF HE REALLY KNOWS ALL THESE PEOPLE. AND QUITE HONESTLY, EVEN WHEN THEY WERE STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM, I'M NOT SAYING THIS TO BE MEAN, BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN IDENTIFY HIS OWN SECRETARY OF DEFENSE ON OCCASION OR PEOPLE THAT HE HAD APPOINTED TO THESE VERY HIGH LEVEL

But it's reality. And what I think this is going to show, whether it's admitted or not, and whether it's provable or not, the people that were actually in charge. How embarrassing. I'm sorry, Tom. So I look at this a little bit differently. I look at this from an investigative standpoint and get past all of the spin and everything that's going out. Okay. A cog in the wheel. Okay.

A cog in the wheel says that she was authorized to get things signed. Who did you work for? Who did you work for? This is like when Giuliani had the map of the mob and he had the red squares for the people that had been indicted. And then he had some yellow squares that were blank that he said were informants. And he was forming the labyrinth, you know, the chart of everybody. And it's something similar that you've seen Godfather 2 when they're in the hearing. Yes.

And they got that this is where the crime families are. So I look at her as a box in a flow chart. Okay, she said she did it. Who did she get these from? Who did she hand them off to? And let's find out who was at the top because you know who I think it was? I think it was Blinken and Chief of Staff.

and one other. And I think that that was the folks that were really running policy of these United States, which is not right. That's the president. So I believe the president was incapacitated, people running policy, and then follow the flowchart down. Then they get to her and they say, get to Neera Pandan, I mean Tanden, and have her go get the thing signed, right?

I bet she had a nickname. Go get the thing signed, right? I bet she had a nickname because of her last name. I'm not picking her last name. Instead of Tanden, you could call her Pendan. Give it to Pendan. Get the thing signed. But I think there's a flowchart here, PBD, and I think she just admitted how one part of it is working, and I think we should continue the investigation beyond the spin and the grandstanding in the hallways in front of microphones and flow back and find out who is the small committee. If it was proven that he...

somebody else did all these auto pens on pardons can any one of them be overturned i think that's going to end up in front of the supreme court oh my god that would be explosive if it goes in front of supreme court if they prove it's overturned what does trump do that that day what has supreme rob have you ever seen if has any pardon ever been overturned

Has any pardon by a U.S. president been overturned? Any one of them. I'm actually very curious if this has happened. No. A presidential pardon has never been overturned by anybody. There's a constitutional power in the article section 2. Absolutely no federal crime. This is power. This power is absolute for federal crimes. No subject. Okay. What if it was...

used by an auto pen that the president never authorized. So let's just see what it says here. Is that a crime? Let's see what it says here. Excellent question. And you're now stepping into one of the few gray areas in the presidential pardon law.

is signed by auto-penned but not authorized by the president, that pardon will likely be invalid. Boom! Here's why. Presidential intent is key. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled, United States v. Wilson, 1833, Burdick v. U.S., 1915, that a pardon is a deed, like a contract. It must be delivered, accepted, and authorized to be valid. If a staffer used an auto-penn, a mechanical signature device, without the president's express authorization, it would likely be,

It would be like forging his signature, the core intent of the president missing, precedent of an auto pen used, President George Washington, got it? Could it be overturned? Yes. If a court is presented evidence that the pardon was issued via auto pen and the president never authorized it, then the courts could nullify the pardon because the legal instrument was never valid in the first place.

This would not be an overturning of a legitimate pardon. It would be declaring that a valid pardon never existed. That's right. So it wasn't a presidential pardon. So it'd be like, we're not overturning a presidential pardon. There never was a presidential pardon. You fraudulently created a document. I love that when Fauci hears, because you know, Fauci's listening to this type of stuff.

He goes, oh, shit. Oh, please no. And again, I want this to go the entire way. Push for the hearings. Push for the next person. Let's fill out the flow chart. Who told who? Adam, thoughts on this? So I remember we had this discussion about the auto pen, and I was like, ah, what's the big deal? Stop it. Whose top three is this in? It's not my top three, but I totally understand why it is in other people's top three. Because I'll pose a question for you.

What's scarier and what's worse, Joe Biden actually running the government and actually making the decisions or the shadow puppet like figures that were using the auto pen? I don't know what's worse. Is it is it do you want the dementia, cancer, old, senile man, forgetful, running the government, making the decisions, or do you want?

quote-unquote the grown-ups in the room making the decisions it's kind of like you're damned if you do damn if you don't because we all heard these stories it's Obama really he's the shadow president Trump's actually still somehow the commander-in-chief right Roseanne like whatever that was

Whether it was Anthony Blinken, whether it was Jake Sullivan, what other names did you hear? Now this Neera. Those two were on top. Pandem, as Tom likes to call her. Was it Ron Klain, the chief of staff? Who was actually making decisions? Who was actually signing these things? Was it the guy shaking hands with non-existent dead people? Was it the guy facing the wrong way at the G7? Yeah. Was it the guy who basically couldn't show up to a debate performance? And Trump goes, I don't even know what the hell this guy is talking about. I don't know if he knows what he's talking about. I don't.

Or was it somebody else? Because either way you slice it, it's a messed up situation. You have an incapacitated dude as the president or you have someone signing on his behalf. Pick your poison. And Adam, you make a great point. I mean, what's scarier is... Thank you, Vinny. What's even scarier is a nation or... Such love. Of...

electing a guy that they knew was like this because Trump was evil Hitler guy. That's even scarier. But I just saw this a little while ago before we started. Jill Biden's longtime aide, Anthony Bernal, which we saw him there, they were saying that he was secretly running the show, allegedly from behind the thing. Can you pull up Anthony Bernal's profile, please? Anthony Bernal, he is defying. Anthony Bernal, the guy? This is from the Oversight Committee's...

He's defying Congress and refusing to testify tomorrow about Joe Biden's cognitive decline after the White House waived his executive privilege. And so, yeah, that's Anthony Bernal refusing. This is the guy. He drowned. According to this, he drowned while paddleboarding on June 27th. I'm sorry. That's tomorrow. Sorry.

Yeah, that's him. Well, let's see what happens here. I want to wrap up with this last story. And then, parents, when you read this and you hear me say this, by the way, before we wrap up here, I do want to give this message here.

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"Teachers Union head gleefully declares that her union owns American children." Chicago Teachers Union, CTU President Stacey Davis-Gates, at a City Club Chicago event on Monday, quoted civil rights activist James Baldwin stating: "Who thinks your children are its children?

Yes, we do. We do. Oh, my God. Wait, was that a joke? No, no. Is that the only clip you got, Rob? Because there's a couple of them. So she says the children. Yeah. So she says the children are always ours. The children are always ours. Every single one of them.

All over the globe and responded to the hypothetical parental objections by saying CTU thinks your children are its children. Yes, we do. We do what you just watched. And accused the president of weakening teachers union, describing his education agenda as a retaliation of the civil war. Okay.

And Gates criticized Trump's push to dismantle. Is this the other one, Rob? It's a little bit longer. Play this clip. You have to see this, folks. This is Chicago's teachers union. If you guys are looking for a recommendation of school, this is definitely not one of them. But go ahead, Rob. One of the speakers at our November rally, she quotes brilliantly and perfectly American philosopher James Baldwin. Baldwin says the children are always ours.

Every single one of them all over the globe and what comes next is your children are its children Yes, we do Wow

Gates criticized Trump's dismantling of the Department of Education, implying that it attacks the civil rights movement while Chicago public schools struggles with the 2024 district reporting showing, ready for this, fewer than one in three elementary students reading at grade level and just 18% testing proficient in math.

CTU's actions keep schools remote for the entire 2020-2021 school year, not returning until August of 2021, and led to a five-day closure in 2022 due to a walkout. Tom, thoughts on this story here? This is, once again...

This is where do I start? This is the failure of public schools in blue states and blue cities. Now, they're failing in a lot of other cities, too. But look at these test scores and look at these things. And by the way, the walkout was a teacher's walkout.

And so they sure treat your children like crap for people that say, yeah, there are children. This is, we do not have education in America. In the public school system, we have indoctrination. We just have to look at it like that. They're not there to educate and get your kids and your test scores to high level. That's what they're there to do. It's outcome-based education. They're going to roll them forward, grade, grade, grade, and it is not their desire to

to put teachers into accountability everywhere else in america you have accountability starting with show up to work on time where the teachers do not have accountability they get tenure and they don't have to be good at what they do they don't have to reflect on this because the union ensures that they stay in place so let me tell you parents this is what you get and this is why homeschooling and vouchers are so important vote for vouchers get vouchers back on the ballot

It says, encourage homeschooling. Find people through churches and social groups that are bonding together to help homeschool kids. The test scores are higher. You control the outcome of your kids because this is what you get in the public school system. And she is a caricature of

of just what I feel is just the deleterious evil that exists there. Because to say we have your children, and then they look at their own report card, what they're turning your kids into, how do they look in the camera with a straight face? How does she go to Chicago City Club and give this talk with a straight face when she's looking at what's happened in Chicago to these kids? What are they turning out? Look what's coming out of that factory.

Look what's coming out of that factory. Not good. That's it.

I could keep going. No, I'm taking a breath here. That was like an Adam go for it. His pause was... Well, go ahead. Well, look, this might be a controversial statement, but I believe that the children are the future, and if you teach them well, you let them lead the way. And that's how that works. But let's break down the numbers. Commercial from Montessori skills. What percentage of teachers are male versus female in American public school system? Well,

Well, the answer is almost 80-20. So the vast majority of teachers who work in public school systems or in the teacher union are women. Now, if you take it a step further, what percentage of those are conservative versus liberal? Well, there's another 80-20 split right there, and it's probably even worse. So the vast majority of the people that are teaching your children are liberal females. Now, we all know the stats about if a single mother raises a child versus a single father versus...

Two parents in the home. When there's a single father, the stats basically don't deviate from two parents being in the nuclear family. But if it's a single mother, no disrespect to the single mothers out there. I know how tough it is. But your children turn out a lot worse. So now you've got the indoctrination from a liberal female doctor

Raising your children vocally, proudfully. And then the last point is this. Do you know what percentage of political donations from the teachers union go to Democrats versus Republicans? 94% go to the Democrats. Wait till I tell you what I just found out about this lady. Over your children. And they're telling you.

To your face, how they operate. Let me show you this. Rob, you can go to her profile, okay? I wanted to see if she had kids, which she does. She's married with three kids. But watch this one here, folks. Rob, go all the way down, all the way down, all the way down. Right there. No, no, not there. Right there. Personal life. In September 2023, Davis Gates faced controversy after a website critical of the Chicago Teachers Union published her son's name, photo, and the name of the private high school. Wow.

which he is enrolled in. Critics highlighted her past statement criticizing school of choice initiatives, where Davis Gates highlighted her son's enrollment as representing a larger issue of disinvestment in public schools. Rob, can you click on number 32? It's going to take you to New York Post.

Click on 32 and go to the New York Post article. Look at this. Teacher's union chief calls private schools fascist, but send her son to one. This is the hypocrisy of people like this. Go a little bit over. Racist. To call private schools fascist and racist, but turns out her son goes to one. Has long bragged about how her children go to Chicago public school, but she recently got outed as sending a son to prestigious private Catholic school on Chicago's south side, De La Salle Institute.

Average tuition, 15 grand a year. Good for her as a mom choosing what's best for her boy. But this makes her rhetoric calling school choice actually the choice of races and private school segregation. Academics utterly damning. Go a little bit lower. But she even...

She even helped kill an Illinois program providing grants to underprivileged children for private school tuition. Wow. When it ends in 2025 and some 9,000 kids will lose out on what she provides for her own son, that doesn't merely make her a hypocrite. It means she knows her rhetoric is untrue, but spouts it anyway in service to her powerful union. That is, she's demonizing democracy.

others for power and profit, a hallmark of actual fascists in most people's books. Isn't that amazing? Isn't that amazing? Is that not amazing when you think about this here? I absolutely love when you get these types of stories.

Just like Mamdani earlier, these capitalists are the problem. Hey, can you guys buy the merch for us? By the way, we are proud capitalists here. We proudly sell merch. We are not hiding. We proudly run Manek. We proudly hire people. We proudly, last Monday, our orientation, we hired 12 new employees, salary, benefits, all of it. We proudly are hiring people and growing. We are not ashamed about it at all.

all these rhetoric stuff that people say, we're not embarrassed about it. We're very proud to be capitalists ourselves. It's these other people that bash capitalism on the back end. They're true capitalists. They just don't want to publicize it. And they play with people's minds regularly. I just love that the story ended the way that it did. I didn't know about it until we went into it. And I said, let me find out what her real background is. You usually don't have to go far to find the hypocrisy there. That's right. I agree. Hey,

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