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Adam Sosnick
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President Trump: 我对以色列和伊朗都不满意,他们像长期争斗的孩子,不知道自己在做什么。以色列在我给他们12小时停火后立即轰炸,伊朗则因一枚未击中目标的火箭而遭到轰炸。我认为他们没有遵守停火协议。 Patrick Bet-David: 特朗普总统谈论了伊朗的政权更迭,并暗示如果伊朗和以色列遵守停火协议,他应该获得诺贝尔和平奖。然而,我认为乌克兰和俄罗斯没有遵守停火协议,伊朗和以色列也不会。我认为伊朗需要新的开国元勋来撰写新的宪法,并需要经济、军事、历史、法律等方面的专家,以及一个能够促成这一切的领导者。我不认为Reza Pahlavi能完成交易。 Tom Ellsworth: 我认为Reza Pahlavi现在是你下台的时候了,这种说法很软弱。他似乎只是在履行义务和职责,而不是充满激情和渴望。我认为伊朗有机会以民主的方式回归。 Adam Sosnick: 我认为伊朗人民最想要的是自由,这将是统治伊朗的第二位也是最后一位阿亚图拉。我也不认为这项和平协议会持久。我认为评价一个政权或领导人,不是看他们如何对待其他国家,而是看他们如何对待自己的人民以及国内的支持率。 Rudy Giuliani: 我认为Reza Pahlavi是沙阿的儿子,沙阿是一个残暴、被憎恨的独裁者,他提供的只是恢复他父亲的腐败独裁统治。 Vinny Oshana: 我认为美国和以色列正在给伊朗人民时间来解决问题,但时间不多了。我认为Reza Pahlavi不是合适的人选,伊朗人民需要站出来。我认为美国和以色列就像两个孩子,被告知在中午之前停止打架,但在11:59,他们尽可能地互相殴打。我认为男人娶九岁以下的女孩并不令人震惊,因为他们的先知穆罕默德就是这样做的,我永远不会认为与六岁或九岁的孩子发生性关系是正确的。 Reza Pahlavi: 我对阿里·哈梅内伊有一个直接的信息:下台吧。如果你下台,你将受到公正的审判和正当的法律程序,这比你给任何伊朗人的都多。

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The episode begins with President Trump's surprise announcement of a ceasefire between Israel and Iran. The hosts discuss the president's unusual language and the global implications of this announcement, analyzing reactions from world leaders and the potential for the ceasefire to either hold or collapse.
  • President Trump announces a ceasefire between Israel and Iran.
  • Tensions are extremely high.
  • The announcement creates significant global uncertainty.
  • Iran continues uranium enrichment despite the ceasefire.

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All right. I think it's fair to say tensions are very high. President Trump, before we even get started, I want to play this clip for you, Rob, if you're ready. Here's what the president just said a few hours ago when being asked about ceasefire with Iran and Israel. Watch this here. Go for it, Rob. Do people believe that Iran is still... Yeah, I do. They violated it, but Israel violated it, too. Are you questioning if Israel is still...

The Press: What's the deal with Israel? The President: Israel, as soon as we made the deal, they came out and they dropped a load of bombs, the likes of which I've never seen before. The biggest load that we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when I say, "Okay, now you have 12 hours," you don't go out in the first hour and just drop everything you have on them. So I'm not happy with them.

I'm not happy with Iran either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out this morning because of one rocket that didn't land, that was shot, perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I didn't want the minute one. I just wanted seven seconds. It's okay. He's going to get to it here in a minute. I just wanted by one clip at the end. We basically have two countries that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that? Oh, my God.

Pause. Okay. So that's what's going on there. Okay. Tensions are extremely high to the point where can we check when is the last time a president on a national scale dropped the F-bomb? If you chat GBT right now, when is the last time a president dropped the F-bomb on TV? Not like he got caught doing it. I'm talking like he knew he was doing it. He knew this was going to get reported on, and he did say it flat out. I don't know if I've seen this many, many times. Maybe it's happened. Who knows? Who knows?

Maybe the last president dropped the F-bomb was Joe Biden in 2021 when a hot mic, a hot mic. No, not a hot mic. I'm not asking a hot mic. Oh, Richard Nixon was caught again. Not a hot mic. I think he's the first one. He's the first to say it live on camera knowing what's going on. Yep.

First time since 1776, the president dropped the F-bomb. Intentionally knowing what's going on. That should tell you where the tensions are right now around the world. We got a lot of things to cover, guys, here on The Story. Of course, Iran, Israel, a bunch of clips to show with that. The B-2 flights, how it happened, what happened, the conversations, how they threw him off.

The regime change tweet that came out from the president, Truth Social was down for an hour and a half after he put out the, what do you want to call it, Truth Social tweet,

that there's a ceasefire. The website was down for an hour and a half because of the amount of traffic that was going to the website. That tells you how many people are trying to follow this to see if this is going to turn into anything bigger than it actually is. Iran launches missiles at U.S. military base in Qatar, but doing so, they warned them. They say, hey, we just want to let you know we're about to do this. But the Iranian leaders come out and they say, look, no matter what happens here, we are still seeking to enrich uranium. We are not

slowing down. We are still seeking to enrich uranium as we're going through the process. So it's not like Iran is sitting there saying, okay, we're going to play friendly. We're not going to do anything. It's not like Israel is listening. Yesterday when the president put the ceasefire, I responded back saying, who's going to listen to this? Did Ukraine and Russia listen to a ceasefire? You think Iran's going to listen? You think Israel's going to listen? They're not going to listen to this. But if it does happen, this is a Nobel Peace Prize winner.

We'll talk about that. And then U.S. calls on China to prevent Iran from closing Strait of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. That's a problem for a lot of people, folks.

Rubio said Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz would be massive escalation. Iranian government poised to shut Strait of Hormuz, closing off 20% of global oil and gas. This is the same exact reason why I was so vocal and concerned about what was going to happen with Panama Canal. That is a deal we needed to close because long term, no one's thinking about the Panama Canal right now because the real enemy of ours, the number one enemy of ours is not necessarily Russia.

Iran or Russia or any of these guys. It's China, and China has control right now of Panama Canal. Long-term protection for us, for you to get your food, your supplies, the things that we need day-to-day to live our lives. We're going to need Panama Canal. But this Hormuz is, some say, important for other reasons that could lead into war. So that's a conversation we'll have as well.

world's reaction to U.S. attacks on Iran in nuclear side. There's a mayoral race going on right now, Rob. I think it's in New York. It's today, if I'm not mistaken, right? It is today. We will cover that. Putin says U.S. strikes on Iran are pushing the world to very dangerous lines. U.S. is Trump's big, beautiful bill gets slimmed down in Senate elections.

Wall Street Journal story. Adam's got some thoughts on that. U.S. Army appoints Palantir meta open AI execs as lieutenant colonels. A little bit strange, but that's the direction I think they may be wanting to go. MAGA madman blames Tim Walz for his murderous rampage. That story itself doesn't make any sense.

On what's going on, Vinny's got some stuff he wants to say about that. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan meets Erdogan in Turkey on historical visit. I believe this is the first time that's ever happened. These are not two people that need to be getting along, and now they are getting along, at least having a meeting, which is a good start to have. The Iranian Reza Pahlavi comes out demanding Khomeini to...

Pump the brakes and, hey, I'm willing to forgive you. And I want you to watch this for yourself and see if that sounds—I have an idea on what I think Iran needs to be looking at this moving forward if there's an opportunity for regime change, which is what 81% of Iranians would like to see happen in Iran. And I'll show you some of the data that will cover that as well. Two CNN executives, both struggling network as anxiety soars over cost-cutting after spinoff. Meta tries to buy this company. You ready for this?

Ilya Suskever's $32 billion AI startup, but he wasn't willing to sell, but is now planning to hire its CEO, META. Tom's got a lot of thoughts on that. More than 1,000 Americans per day earn millionaire status in 2024. Federal Reserve split $1.

Starts to split on when to begin cutting U.S. interest rates. Wait till you hear what Tom just shared with us this morning in breakfast that he thinks Scott Besson is suggesting. That is absolutely insane, and I freaking love the idea. You have to hear it.

what Tom has to say about that. And then new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers according to Wall Street Journal. We got a few other stories on the addendum that just happened last 24 hours. Trump says he expects his Iran fire to last forever. The ceasefire, he believes it can last forever. Mamdani shoots up in the New York City Polymarket after surging ahead of Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo, in poll.

Supreme Court allows Trump to restart swift deportations of migrants away from their home. Trump slams Russia's Medvedev for claiming countries will give Iran-Ukraine warheads. And there's a few other things that we'll cover. 145 people were pricked.

With syringes at France's music festival. What a weird situation there. 145, that's a Rolling Stones story that's coming out. So with all that said and done, there's a lot of things that we have to cover here today with you. But I got some good news I want to share with you guys for today when it comes down to merch, especially with all the timing that we have going on. Look, if you ever wonder why we don't do sponsorships,

because our own companies are putting us in a position with the customers. I say this to you all the time. If you believe in a brand, go support it. If you love CNN, buy their stuff. If you love Fox, buy their stuff. If you love any other small media company, support them because that's how they stay in business. So here's what ends up happening.

You either take money from sponsorship, then your loyalty has to be to sponsors, or you take money from customers who are buying stuff from you, the loyalty then becomes to them to stay honest to them. That is what our goal is long-term. Eventually, we will bring some partnerships in based on criterias that we're creating with them. But till then, we're loving what's happening right now with the podcast, the media company, everything that we're doing. So today, we have some limited merch that just came in today. And talk about the timing of it. We've been waiting for this for four months.

We have these new USA flags that literally just came in. We have the black one that came in here, USA hat on the back. It says, Future Looks Bright. We have the other USA one with the stars that are on it with Future Looks Bright on the side and on the back. It says, Valuetainment. This one is sick for 4th of July. This is the kind of hat you would want to sport on 4th of July. I like the black one, and I like this one here. This one's not going to last a long time. This is black.

and gold. USA is gold right here. Limited? Look at this. USA is gold right there. And it's numbered. This is limited edition out of 250 with the American flag on the side, Valuetainment logo on the side, and on the back it says Future Looks Bright. It's out of 250. You know what happens with these numbered ones.

They don't last a long time. I think the last one lasted two hours and 45 minutes They go in no time if you like the limited supply stuff that we have Some people buying and put it on eBay and they flip them. We can't stop them from doing that So if you don't buy it, you can only get these on eBay But those of you that love our limited supply material that we have go buy this they have a shirt that goes with it as well Rob if you can go on the shirt one that we have right there the gold shirt Can you click on it real quick so as we can zoom in look at that USA golden

And on the back it says, "Future looks bright." And then go to the hat as well so we can see some of the pictures of the hat, Rob. Do we have a video on this or no? I don't think we have a video on it. Maybe we do, maybe we don't. Look at this.

These are all numbered. Keep going, keep going, keep going. And Rob... Yeah, look at that stitching. Glitter and everything. This is awesome. Anyways, go to vtmerch.com to place your order. Is that a new shirt as well for 4th of July? This is a new shirt that's coming out. I don't know if we have that on the website or not, but I'm sure when we do, we'll market that as well. All right, go to vtmerch.com, place your order. Let's get right into it. Okay. Okay.

So a few things here. Last time we did podcast was what? Saturday, we did podcast, emergency podcast, and you have Sunday, Monday, Tuesday. So right afterwards, the president comes out and says that a discussion about regime change. I don't know if you saw this, Rob, if you have the clip. He starts talking about regime change. There's nothing wrong with regime change.

Trump floats Iran's regime change even as the true impact of U.S. strikes is far from clear. Here's what he says. Let me read this to you. And then, Rob, if you can pull up the clip from Reza Pahlavi when he comes out and posts a video about what he wants to be doing. This is it. It's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime

is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be a regime change? Mega. Make Iran great again. It doesn't sound as good as MAGA. I'm willing to bet sometimes if you say it, YouTube may even flag and give you a strike because it sounds like a different word. So it's M as mom, I as India.

GA, make Iran great again. While these talks were happening, so now everybody fears. Everyone's saying, oh my God, what's going to be happening? So on one end, Khamenei is sitting there saying, all of a sudden, if I'm older, if I don't know what to do,

He puts out a tweet, Rob, if you can go to Twitter, if you don't mind. I know I directed you this way, but if you can go to Twitter, go to my Twitter account if you could. There's a tweet that he puts up. Go back one if you could, right there. So he tweets out and says, those who know the Iranian people, zoom in a little bit specifically on his tweet, zoom in a little bit on that one, yeah. Those who know the Iranian people and their history...

Know that the Iranian nation isn't a nation that surrenders. Okay? So he's trying to inspire 17.2 million views. Exciting stuff. Oh my God, we're not going to back down from nobody. And then if you go back one...

Then, there you go. And then I repeat his tweet and I say, those who know the Iranian people and their history know that you robbed 95 billion from the people, their network, family network, if you can go validate this in a minute, we will. Mass executed 5,000 political prisoners in 1988, tortured whistleblowers, therefore over 81% of Iranians reject your regime. Now, a lot of people on the bottom put grok and say, is this true?

So Rob, if you can go down on the bottom on the comment section, just click on the tweet and go in the comment section. Somebody that says, Grok, is this true or not? Go on the first one. Okay. Go on the first one. Grok will respond. Can you provide common, no, go above. Can you provide, uh, so this is not a guy that's a supportive of what I'm doing, right? He doesn't like the fact that I'm in business.

that indicates 81% of Iranians in Iran reject the regime. The 81% figure likely comes from a 2021 Gammon survey where 81% of 158,000 respondents in Iran rejected the Islamic Republic. Weird. Okay, when you're hearing that. So now, Rob, if you can go back, do me a favor.

copy paste that yes that's a yes copy paste can you go back to my tweet rob no the one that i put copy paste that and go and put that in chat gbt if you could just go put that in chat gbt is this true okay and type in is this true is this true okay put that in there and let's see what it says here okay statement mass executions 1988 true

After a fatwa by Ayatollah Khomeini in 1988, Iranian authorities executed between 2,800 to 5,000 political prisoners, mostly members of the leftist or opposition group, without due legal process. Okay, let's see if the $95 billion is correct. Can you go a little bit lower to see if the $95 billion? The $95 billion figure is estimated total assets controlled by the Supreme Leader Network, Satad, amassed by the family. While many view this misappropriation, this is an article by Reuters.

Reuters that said this. And then Chad JBT says 81%. So while this is going on, Khamenei comes out and he says, well, we got to figure out a way

for us to have a solution. So what does he do? He's already trying to name his successor. Rob, I don't know if you have that clip for the successor. It's on page eight. Iran's supreme leader reportedly names potential successors in the event that he dies. Is this the one, Rob? Yes, it's a news clip talking about some of the potential successors. Go for it. Play this clip. ...leadership is swiftly making preparations for a wide range of outcomes...

How long is this video, Rob? Two minutes. Oh, stop it, Rob. We can pause it right there. One of the guys he is talking about is his own son.

So if you can go online and type in Khamenei's son successor, Khamenei's son successor. If you type that, you'll see now they want to keep it within the family, nepotism, which, you know, it's nothing that they don't do in other countries. I'm not going to sit there and say they're the only ones that are doing it. But he's talking about possibly his own son replacing him. Now, right there, Khamenei picks possible successor amid war. Son, he names three people.

Zoom in a little bit. Son, Majadwan, not among them. Go a little bit lower, Rob, if you could. One of the names that was coming up, Islamic Revolution Guard Corps, who were rumored to be, this is one of them. There's other articles that are saying he's wanting his son to replace him. Here's the reality of it. While this is going on, Reza Pahlavi,

comes out and puts out this video. If you have Reza Pahlavi's video, here's what he puts out. Because this is what 7% of Iranians would like to see him go back to Iran. Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. That I am establishing a formal channel for military, security, and police personnel to reach out directly to me, my team, and our expanding operations.

This is a secure platform to efficiently manage the growing volume of inbound... Which speech is this, Rob? This is where he calls for the ayatollah to step down. ...and seeking to join our movement. For those patriotic members of our armed forces, the time is now to join the nation. If you do, I will make sure your service to Iran is not forgotten and is celebrated. This is not the one, Rob.

There's another one where he just straight up gets up there and says, can we, if you are willing to step down now, there's a...

I mean, you just have to go to his channel. Going after Khomeini, because you know what? That's basically saying, hey, I'm going to open up a channel. Anybody that wants to get away from Khomeini, any colonels, anybody in the military or whatever, I'm going to open up a channel, come to me, which is kind of dangerous, because who knows who the hell is going to be coming over there to maybe even sabotage him, which even that statement alone sounded like, you know,

- Sounded like that. - Somebody else wrote, it sounded very robotic. - I thought Fox had a 45 second clip. - It's a 45 second clip. I'll find it. - Yeah, they just said, step down. - Tom, you keep going. So your thoughts on this, I'm gonna find this clip and send it to Rob. Go for it. Tom.

What I think is this is not definitive, right? You're coming out and saying, I think it's time for you to step down. I think it's time for you to step down. It's like my dad saying, I think it's time for you to clean your room. That's weak. It should be a full-throated response. And it says, you have outlasted your evil. You've been

you've been able to be here this long. You should be out of here. The people of Iran, the leader and that leader is me. And I'm going to do ABC. It's like make America great again. They said, what do you mean make America great again? I'm going to jobs down here. Inflation comes down, jobs come back, economic prosperity goes up. It was very fast.

Where is he? You know what I mean, Pat? Normally leaders like Trump that came back have like one, two, three or one, two. This is what we're going to do. Here's what he said. And he kind of meanders a little bit on me. Here's what he said. I just want you to watch this. And the main thing when you see something like this is, does Khamenei take this seriously? Do Iranians take this seriously? Does the world take this seriously? Go ahead and play this clip, Rob. So today I have a direct message for Ali Khamenei. Step down.

And if you do, you will receive a fair trial and due process of law, which is more than you have ever given any Iranian. Okay. Can I get... Yeah. Me coming from an outpat? Oh, my mic just went... I don't believe... We hear you. You understand? I don't believe...

First of all, if you're speaking to somebody like that, just directly say you've planned it. He doesn't look like he even prepared, and I don't believe that threat. I don't believe it. Yeah, so when you hear that, you see that. Adam, what are your thoughts when you're seeing what's going on right now with Iran, regime change? The president said there's a possibility of regime change. A lot of people are saying, well, this was all planned. They knew this was going to happen.

This is exactly what they wanted to do. It's not like it's a picture of a perfect playbook. First you do this, then you do that, then you deflect, then it's regime change. Then you place someone there who is your candidate to place in Iran to bring back, et cetera, et cetera, and you make the second calling of the puppet and all this other stuff. So Rob, I'm going to send you a clip of what Rudy Giuliani said about Reza Pahlavi that I want to respond to that as well. But Adam, your thoughts on this before I share some of my thoughts.

So everyone's on the internet talking, everyone's talking about what's going on. Let's start with first principles. What is the most logical explanation of what is happening? First and foremost, I would argue that more than anything, the Iranian people want to be free.

So you just gave a stat that, what, 81 percent of people want to do away with the Ayatollah? That might be incredibly low. How many protesters do you see around the world calling for the death of the Iranian regime? Everyone says online this war is not against the people of Iran, it's against the IRGC. How many times have you used or heard those acronyms?

In my opinion, this is going to be the second and the final Ayatollah to run Iran. This gentleman is 86 years old, 86 years young. He's almost as old as Tom, whose birthday it is. Joking, Tom. But I don't know how much longer he's going to be with us. There's no indication that if and when a new supreme leader is called to the catapult,

that the Iranian people will accept it. In my opinion, this is the last and final Ayatollah to run Iran. Yeah, very interesting to say something like that. Here's what Rudy Giuliani said. Rudy Giuliani yesterday said,

comes out and says the following. Now, here's the thing. If you think about it, when is the last time you heard us even say anything about Giuliani? It's been very quiet. It's not been something that we've talked about. It's not been something that, you know, he's not been on the radar for too long. Rob, if you're on this, that's the one. Okay, perfect. Reza Pahlavi is the son of the Shah who was a brutal, hated dictator. He offers nothing but a return to his father's corrupted dictatorship,

For decades, the SAVAK, his father's secret police persecuted, tortured, and murdered Iranians. Rob, can you go on his ex, please? Exactly what he's saying there, because I want to see the commentary of what people are saying under Rudy Giuliani's. Here's the reality of it.

People sit there on the left, right, and center are critical of Reza Pahlavi's father, you know, of what he did. And you just go to the comment section right there, Rob. I'd like to see what some of the people are saying to this tweet here. And yet, despite all that, we're still infinitely better than the current regime. True. Keep going lower.

I don't know if this will come kind of, but I've never heard him disavowal Savak, which makes me suspicious. Why would we even be commenting on this? The Iranian people should pick who is best to lead them, and hopefully they make the right choice. Interesting take, but then who? When the regime falls, it is best replaced with a preferable leader instead of doing a government project like this in Iraq. He was not hated. Please just stop.

You go down the comments section, a lot of people don't agree with them. The father, King Reza Pahlavi, changed the entire thing in Iran. It was a complete different situation what he did in Iran. Having said that, this is the one thing I want everybody to be thinking about. If we are talking about a regime change in Iran, let's just say you do want to have a regime change in Iran. What would work? What would be the right way to go about this?

You know, I could come out with a 20-point plan on what we could do to change Iran in a heartbeat. It wouldn't be a challenge. I think the way to look at it, and if the Iranian people are watching this, is the following. Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the son of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, is a kind man, is a nice man, is a smart man. He could be a historian because he knows the history very well. He speaks English. He speaks Farsi fluently.

He can do an interview in French and fluently have a conversation with anybody that wants to talk to him in French. He has that element in place. However, what the biggest challenge, I'm getting hit up left and right from Iranian influentials around the world, and this is what they're asking me. Pat, this is another opportunity. Isn't this great? It looks like he's going to come back and he's going to do this and he's going to do that.

Here's the biggest problem that Iranians have, and you're not going to like me saying this, you know, I'm talking straight to all the Iranian people around the world, that love and support Reza Pahlavi as much as I love him and his family and what they did for Iran. This is not a number one person. He's not. It's the same thing I said about DeSantis. DeSantis is very good for his state. He's a phenomenal governor. We proudly live in Florida, but he's not a Trump.

There's Trump, then there's DeSantis. DeSantis later on could develop into something like that, but we need a Trump. Reza Pahlavi has had 46 years to do something for Iran to go back to being free. Hasn't happened. 46 years. Every 5 to 10 years, Iranians have had a chance to topple the current regime. Hasn't happened. Every 5 to 10 years, you've had an opportunity. Hasn't happened. You can't teach tough leadership.

If it was all about knowing the history, having the right last name, if it was all about speaking different languages, everyday new professor would be the leader of some kind of a country. That's not how this works. Tough leadership requires for somebody, when you look at the camera and you deliver a message, for somebody to believe them. People believe Reagan. People believe when Putin speaks. People believe when Trump speaks.

People believe when certain leaders speak, you believe them when they speak. There's a certain level of conviction that you want to do. Your eyes don't lie. The way Iran ought to look at this moving forward is in the following way. Iran needs to cut everything up and be a startup. Look at it as a startup. Bring in new founding fathers.

who helped write a new constitution that Iran has built on. That's what the mindset needs to be. And those individuals, I think he needs to be one of the founding fathers of the new movement of Iran. That could be a Benjamin Rush. If you know the history of Iran, history of U.S. founding fathers, Benjamin Rush, a lot of people would say, was the man.

When it came down to becoming one of the founding fathers, the man was brilliant. He knew the history. He had such a strong background. He played a role. He may have been the smartest guy in the room. A lot of people could have said, never became a president. But you go ask the founding fathers what role he played. He played a very important role. Who became the president? George Washington became a president. What other founding father ended up becoming president? Tom, if I'm not mistaken, the first three were all founding fathers, right? Thomas Jefferson's number three. I think Adams is two. Washington is one, right? Yeah.

And you start going, you're like, okay, there's that history there. If Iran's going to go through this, you need brains for economy. You need brains for military. You need brains for history. You need brains for law. You need brains on how to write a constitution. You need brains for how to put certain law and order in place where things change. You need brains on how to fix the educational system. You need all of those things to go out there. We need somebody at the top as a leader to make it happen. I know the Iranian people don't want to hear this, and they keep saying things like this. They'll say the following, Vinny.

They'll say stuff like, "What's the alternative? What's the alternative? Go find them. Wake them up. Bring somebody from Iran. Wake them up. Bring someone that you support." Whatever the values and principles are. Maybe it's somebody, when Khomeini was living in France, they went and brought Khomeini from France to Iran. Khomeini wasn't living in Iran. Khomeini was in France for 15 years. They brought him back and they said, "We think you're the guy that needs to be the leader here, but there needs to be somebody that can close the deal." Let me explain what I mean by closing the deal.

President Trump, 2024, how many people you think could have handled what they did to him in 2023? E.G. and Carol, all the, your property is now worth $250 million. It's an $18 million property, Mar-a-Lago, that was sold for $20 million like 60 years ago. You don't know, give or take, whatever the timeline is.

He had to go through that. Every day he's at court, they're embarrassing him. Letitia James, the other lady that, you know, when they ask the question, did you have sexual affairs with this woman? And what does he say? Oh, let me think about it. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. No. Do you remember that? Every day they're trying to mock him. Who do you think could have closed the deal outside of him? Who else? You think Reza Pahlavi is going to be able to close the deal? Like close the deal.

Sweet man, smart man, needs to be part of the transition, needs to be one of the founding fathers if Iran does go through the next thing. But if he is...

Who he claims he is, he needs to be in a room with 50 other strong influencers to be able to make this happen collectively. That needs to take place. Some of the people that have connections to many different countries, many different industries, that leadership, that needs to happen. If it doesn't happen, every 10 years you're going to be like, oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, we're making a comeback. Oh, he's 84 years old. It's too late. Now what?

Now, Khomeini's and Khamenei's have all these decades of being able to control Iran into whatever it is today. But to me, the biggest thing Iran needs right now is a closer. I'm not convinced he's a closer to close the deal. Stop being so romantic about your candidates. There's these fantasies people have with their candidates. Oh my God, you know, it's going to be so great. RFK, romanticize, because we're going to have another John F. Kennedy. No, but he played a very important role.

with his job that he has under Trump right now. So I think there's a very important role he plays. I'm not convinced he's the guy that's going to be closing the deal. So for all the Iranian people that are hoping for regime change, hey, you don't have a lot of time. The window's going to close like this. When do you think there's going to be another opportunity like this? I am 46 years old. I've been outside of Iran since 1989. That's how many years? 36 years. This is the closest Iran's ever gotten since 1989 for regime change.

Let me say this again, Iranian people. Since 1989, when we left Germany, when we left Iran, went to Germany out of refugee camp, and we came here November 20, 1990, from that day till today, there's never been a time...

more closer than today for Iranian people who want a regime change. They want the Ruhollah Khamenei and others to leave. You've never, ever been closer than you are today. What you do with it is truly on you. I would love for the people to choose somebody like you're hearing all this stuff, but the reality of it is you need a closer, someone that's going to close a deal. I'm not convinced RP is a closer. Tom, thoughts?

I think you're exactly right. In the United States, we romanticize this. There were people, you know, I used to go to RNC meetings and go, you know, check in on things and then talk to people that had influence. But I always used to select individual leaders that I was going to

and look at it from that way. And everybody was talking themselves into believing. Jeb Bush is a guy. Here we are, another Jeb Bush. Oh, look, he's got diversity in his family. Look at his wife. Look at everything like this. And it was like, wait a minute, this guy's uninspiring, number one. And number two, what's his plan? What does he passionately want to do? There was nothing there. But man, the Republican Party, this would be a layup. We'll have all the support of everybody else. $140 million, they won. $140.

That's how many people got into the room together and had brown water and talked themselves into believing that Jeb was our guy. This happens all the time in government where the successor is not the guy. And I just think right now they're just –

He's trying to force it a little bit. He doesn't feel like he's at the microphone with his own passion and desire. It feels like he's under a kind of obligation and duty. And if you're just there under obligation and duty, that is not what it's going to take in the middle of what's going on on the world stage.

you've got an opportunity. You know, they used to criticize the United States for a thing that they said, oh, you're just out there nation building, but it's really the CIA, the United Fruit Company, tear-assing around Central America, overthrowing, you know, perfectly legitimate democratic governments. But there was other people that talked about nation building, and nation building was about enabling, was supporting nation building. This is an opportunity for Iran to come back in a democratic way

Not that there's not warts there, not that there's not things going on there. This is an opportunity for Iran to come back.

Can I say something? Yeah, go for it. Tom, you said something yesterday that was very important. You ever seen the movie Alexander the Great with Angelina Jolie? Is Angelina Jolie in that movie? Colin Farrell's in it? Colin Farrell, but who's the mother of Angelina Jolie? Who's the mother of Angelina Jolie in that movie Alexander the Great? Yeah, Angelina Jolie was the mother of Alexander the Great. That was right. So there is this fantasy with a son to outdo

Like, you know, yeah. But in this case, Angelina, the mother Olympias, you know, had a falling out with Alexander's father, right? There was a big falling out there. So she wanted her son to do what? To outdo the father. Because now she's like, I've divorced your father. I have nothing to do with him. The best revenge would be you with my blood on my side of the family to outdo him. That's right. Mothers want their sons to do very well. And there's an element of mothers that,

that if the father and the son had a feud that I don't believe in, you go get your act together, get serious. Mothers want the son to prove a point to the father that the son was better, not in a bad way. It's in a very natural, loving way, right? But sometimes the son privately is like, Mom, don't give me that pressure. I don't want this job. Who are the only two athletes you said in baseball that did better than their fathers? That loved the game and set world-breaking statistics? Yes.

Ken Griffey Jr. and Barry Bonds. You know what both of them had in common? Love of the game. They love the game. I don't know if there's a love of the game here. Go ahead, Benny. I'm not that versed on all this, but we've met the guy. We've hung out with the guy. With something like this, as a leader, you cannot be on the fence. You have to not only want to do it, Pat, it's a must.

Do it. And I just don't feel that vibe because then you mentioned something about time wise. How long do you think the United States and Israel is going to give them? Because if you think about it, their Khomeini could easily with Mossad and us and our intelligence, he could have been dead a while ago when Trump made that post where he's like, hey, we know where you are and we could take you out. They're giving the Iranian people grace to figure this out. But the clock is ticking.

I just don't think my Vincent O'Shaughnessy opinion, that's not the guy. But the Iranian people, they got to step up because, Adam, what do you guys say? Eighty one percent of the people are pro the regime change, but 20 percent doesn't. That's of 92 million. That's almost 20 million. That's 18.4 percent.

million people are still like, no, this guy, this Khomeini guy is who we want. But it has to happen. They got to step up. So while this is going on, the president comes out and says he's brokered a deal of ceasefire. Rob, if you can go to the tweet. So he puts out a tweet saying, we have brokered a ceasefire. Congratulations to everyone. It has been fully agreed by and between Iran and Israel, and there will be a complete and total ceasefire in approximately six hours from now, which...

When Israel and Iran have wound down and completed their in progress final missions for 12 hours, at which point the war will be considered ended, officially Iran will start the ceasefire and upon the 12th hour, Israel will start the ceasefire and upon the 24th hour, an official end to the 24th war, 12 day war will be saluted by the world during which ceasefire the other side, he writes some wrong tweets by the way, remain peaceful and respectful on the assumption that everything

works as it should, which it will. I would like to congratulate both countries, Iran and Israel, on having the stamina, courage, and intelligence to end what should be called the 12-day war. This is a war that would have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't, and never will God bless it. Never.

Will was and never will God bless Israel. I don't think there's a period though. There is there's exclamation God bless Israel God bless Iran God bless the Middle East and God bless the United States American God bless the world Rob Can you go to my tweet Twitter account so I retweet this and this is what I put up there I put up Right at the top of it. I say I

Which side actually believes the other side will honor the ceasefire? Did Ukraine or Russia ever stick to theirs? Nope. If both Iran and Israel fully honor this deal, Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. But the key word is what? If. So that's that. Then all of a sudden, what do we hear? Bombing from both sides. Okay.

Then what happens, Rob, if you go up, this is President's most recent tweet with the video that comes out. Just go to the short. This is a conversation that's being had about neither side keeping the commitment that President Trump

For the first time in the history of America, a president intentionally, while on live TV, not it was caught, not a hot mic, drops an F-bomb. It happened today. Imagine how pissed off a president has to be to drop an F-bomb, but that's exactly what the president did today. Go for it, Rob.

that have been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Do you understand that? Think about that. Adam, your thoughts on this. So you're looking at a president who just had a massive win when he tuned out all the noise and focused on the signal and did what needed to be done to eliminate the nuclear threat. You're also looking at a president who's basically saying, I need more wins.

And he's been talking about eliminating the war with Russia and Ukraine. He's been talking about ending the war between Israel and Hamas. And now he has this amazing opportunity to end this war in 12 days. Perfect marketing, the 12-day war between Israel and Iran. And there's only one little thing that got in between him and this war ending, and that's...

These two sides necessarily don't want to end this war. So when he's talking about ending this war, he's talking about America's involvement in this war. In his tweet, it was very interesting. He said, I brokered a deal between Israel and Iran. Does anybody out there believe that Iran wants to stop globalizing the Intifada? At the same time, does anybody believe that Bibi Netanyahu, at this point, when Iran is on the brink of

of disaster, at the brink of falling apart, wants to take his foot off their throat. I don't even know what the terms of this peace agreement were, but if I'm a betting man, I don't think this holds. Major respect to Trump for eliminating the nuclear sites.

I just don't know if this peace agreement is going to last 12 more hours. Well, Pat, can I say one thing, though? For Trump to go out there on the White House lawn before 8 a.m. and say that these two, Iran and Israel, don't know what the F they're doing. He's trying to make that peace. He's trying to make it stop. And the analogy is Iran and Israel, after he's talked about this, he tweeted it, are like two kids where you say, all right, guys, as of today,

As of noon, lunchtime, no more fighting. Okay? But at 11.59, you both start punching each other in the face as much as you can because you know you have a little window. It's childish. Okay? It's childish. When you have a freaking deal, both of them need to stop. Both people need to stop. Israel's at fault and Iran's at fault, especially when the guy is trying to end it.

when he's trying to end it. So they're both at fault. And I don't mean you make a good point. They both obviously want, you know, to keep it going. That's what dude, one bombs, one, the other one fights back, but there are reports as well, by the way, I looked it up. Like there's actually no real public evidence that the U S like actually did the damage Tom on these, all the, and how much time, how much money was all the,

operation and all the bombs that were dropped. Well, they say it was $2 billion of transport and bombs, something like that? Yeah, and there were satellite image of days before, because we warned them, we gave them a heads up, a bunch of trucks and a bunch of convoys showing up, doing whatever, grabbing whatever, and then leaving, and that the buster bunkers didn't even actually hit what they were supposed to hit. So that's another... Can I add one more thing, and then Pat, I want to ask you a question. You can tell a lot about

a regime or leadership, not by the way they treat other countries, but by the way that they treat their own people and the approval ratings within their own country. Every country has war with another country, Russia and Ukraine, Pakistan, India, China, Japan. Every country is going to have enemies. Every country is going to have war. But how do you treat your own people?

I would argue that the Israeli people have never been so happy with Bibi Netanyahu than the day that he took out these nuclear threats from Iran, especially when America got involved. Now, Bibi Netanyahu, don't forget this. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East

His approval ratings, which you can actually track, are somewhere in the 30 to 40 percent. In the last week, they've skyrocketed like a missile out of Gaza into the 70, 80 percent. That's how excited the people of Israel are with what Netanyahu is doing. At the same time, we just talked about on the low end, the people of Iran view the Ayatollah with envy.

80% dislike and disdain. So if there's anybody in Israel advocating to step on Iran's throat, it's the people of Israel. At the same time, it's the people of Iran also cheering on Bibi Netanyahu, also cheering on the IDF to bring down the IRGC. There's a big difference between how the people domestically view their leaders, and it ain't close.

Yeah. And by the way, while you're saying there, there's a number comes out. Story comes out yesterday about Tel Aviv shares hit record highs after U.S. strikes Iran nuclear sites. If you go look at the stock market in Israel, it's on fire on what it's doing.

There's also stories about, Adam, what you just said right there about Iranians on the streets with American flags. Rob, I don't know if you have this video or not. There's video of Iranian protesters waving down with the USA flags on streets of Tehran as president joins in. Do you have that clip, Rob? Yes. It's on page seven. There's a clip about this.

Let me read the story while Rob pulls this up. There you go. Iranians waving American flags with slogans that have taken to the streets. So there's multiple of them that you can find. So a lot of Iranians that want this thing to be taking place, the regime change to be taking place. But I'll say this to you, Adam, on this whole ceasefire between the two.

In this case, Iran and Israel. Who is more to blame for not following the ceasefire? If you ask me, my opinion, it's Israel. Why? We're not doing a favor for Iran. You came asking president. President is in a tough situation. He knows the political party that got him elected, there's an element of it that you can call a woke right and all this stuff that a lot of these folks now are in the same room agreeing with Ilhan Omar.

They're not in the same room agreeing with people that, what was that, Rob? Okay, no, no, you can pause it, you can pause it. There's these people that are agreeing with those folks, but they're kind of like, you know, how did I end up in a room like this where I'm agreeing with these people? I would have never agreed with these types of people, right? But in this case, with all the pressures being, Netanyahu makes the call because he knows he can't get the job done, and they know if they want to do anything with those three nuclear sites, you need U.S.'s help.

The president agrees to do it knowing there's going to be a lot of backlash, but he focused on signal and says, okay, Israel, you're a bigger ally to us than Iran. Then they do it, and then you do this, and you don't listen to the ceasefire?

I mean, I don't blame him for losing his shit and, you know, straight up calling him out on what they're doing. I think there's even another clip here. Who is he calling this out in this video, Rob? I believe he's calling out CNN in this clip. Yeah, this is a different clip on the same exact setting when he's having an interview where he drops the F-bomb. This is him talking to CNN. Go for it. That place is demolished.

The B-2 pilots did their job. They did it better than anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening. It was dark with no moon. And they hit that target with every one of those things. And that place is gone. But when I see CNN all night long, they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought. It was demolished. You take a look at the pinpricks.

And you see, that place is gone. And I will say, I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B-2s. I think that MSDNC ought to apologize. I think these guys really -- these networks and these cable networks

are real losers. You really are. You're real losers. The Press: But it is real sales. It is real sales that they buy men at the key stores. The President: You're gutless losers. I say that to CNN because I watch it. I have no choice. I got to watch that garbage. It's all garbage. It's all fake news. But I think CNN is a gutless group of people. And the people that run it, nobody even knows it's been sold so many times.

But the people that run it ought to be ashamed. MSDNC, a guy named Brian Roberts, he heads it. He's a disgrace. He's a weak, pathetic disgrace. He was on fire today. Well, he's sick of it because to him, here's the part that he's in, okay? There are people right now that see this as an opportunity. Guy asked me a question this morning, okay? He booked a call. We're having a 15-minute call together on Mnuchin. I don't know when it is, but he books a call.

And I've been having the weirdest Manex. By the way, for those of you guys that know what's going on with Manex, we're doing our annual contest on Manex, where we're going to dinner at Casa D'Angelo. It's a contest that started from June 1st that goes to July 31st.

And there's different categories for content. I'm going to tell you what this phone call is and what this conversation was about. You have to really hear about it. Because I think everybody watching this, you have to hear this. So this is the contest we ran to go. You come down to Florida. We take you out to Casa D'Angelo. Afterwards, we go. We have dinner together conversations. I'm going to be there. Tom's going to be there. Vinny's going to be there. Adam's going to be there. And then we go afterwards to the cigar lounge, and we stay till midnight talking about ideas, future, politics. It's the best podcast ever.

It's the best because we all sit there and just talk to each other. It's such a great experience when we do this. Phenomenal experience when we do this. And if you want to find out more about the contest, put the link below, Rob, in the comment section as well in the description. You go to Manech.com, then go to the top and type in Leaders Bulletin. The video is there. Criteria, as you know, can we see where people are at for the competition, where their rankings are by categories? Tommy Robinson. Wow, Tommy Robinson is number one at 300. He's completed 123 Manechs. Holy moly.

Dean Mason. Good for Dean Mason. Konstantin Korbov. Third place. So if the contest ended today, it would be those three names that would be coming down to have dinner and go to the cigar lounge. Patricia would be placed, and it's Mary, Scott Woolley, Giancarlo. Giancarlo got a shout-out today. Hello, Giancarlo. I play Scott Storch, James O'Keefe.

And then if you go to middleweight, let's see where middleweight's at. John Mason's at the top. Then there's Larry Broughton, DJ Shipley. DJ Shipley. Wow, holy shit. DJ Shipley, Navy SEAL Team 10. James Murphy, former F-15 pilot. Then you got a few other names there. Amy. Brad Lee's on that list. Terrence Howard's on that list. Go to the heavyweight one. Let's see where heavyweight's at. Sapala's at the top. Then there's Daniel, Cap, Michael Mara, a few other names. Let's see the super heavyweight. Look at the super heavyweight. Vinny is about to break a record. Vinny! 362 complete him in X. Vinny!

Timothy Ryan, Lindy Lee.

I wouldn't even make the contest if it ended today. Holy shit. I would be outside knocking on the door saying, Vinny, let me in. But we'll show up and buy dinner. Then it's myself, Tom, Adam, other people that are on that category. And if you go to users, Rob, can you go to users? Because users get to compete as well on where they're at. Look at the, for new, we got Zach. Can't see it from there, Rob. Zach, Abraham, Zach, Zerluk, Abraham, Peretta, Tariq, Chedid, Andy, hello. And then go to heavyweights to see where the heavyweights are.

It's the, Oh, Dorothy took over. Wow. Oh wow. Timothy, Ryan Constantine, Eric branch. Anyways, those of you guys that are not experts, if you're an expert compete, we're going to have a good time. If you're not an expert, any for every 10, uh, next you ask someone, you ask the question, we will do a raffle and we'll pick up one or two names to come join us as well. Uh, but,

But you can go to the contest to visit it. And by the way, here's something I wanted to put for you guys today. It's Tom's birthday today. So if you kind of love Tom, it was his birthday yesterday. If you kind of love Tom Ellsworth, send him a birthday wish right there on a monek. Wish him a happy birthday. And Vinny is on track for breaking his record. Send him a monek.

And Adam is looking forward to a lot of love from folks from the Islamic community, Muslim community. If you guys want to befriend him, send him some messages there as well. But this is where I was going. Guy asked me a question. I love you guys. Yeah. And by the way, when he says that, he sincerely says that. He's not joking with you guys. He actually gets along with everybody. When you're out there with Adam, Adam doesn't have a hard time getting along with people. But here's what I wanted to tell you. The question becomes on my neck. Taylor the Grant asked me a question.

Who do you listen to? Who do you believe? Where do you go to? Who's right? Who's wrong? What is the real way of who to listen to in a market like this, Vinny? Think about that. Great question. Adam, who do you listen to? Tom, who does the average person listen to? And for me, it really put me in a position to want to answer the question. This is where I go to, okay?

I put all the names across the board because this is how I led when we were building an insurance company. Everybody would call me and bitch about somebody. Do you know what he just did? Do you know what she just did? Do you know what they did? And it's like, okay, great. Then when there would be a crisis in the company, people would come to my office and they would say, do you know what this person said? Do you know what that person said? Do you know this? There's a crisis. There's a problem. There's this. There's that. For me, it was very simple. It came down to the following. I watched you.

on your bias, I put everybody on screen. That person's bias is this because they had a fallout with that company. That person's bias is this because they got a bad business deal. That person's bias is this. That guy's from Iran. That person's bias, he's from Israel. He's Jewish. That person's bias is this. So I put the biases there. And that person's America first. That person's America only. I put all the biases there. Then I don't try to change your bias.

I understand your bias. Why would I try to change your bias? You've lived your life. Who the hell am I to try to like, but when you see people on Twitter, you're wrong. Yeah, people have a bias. Everybody. Trump has a bias. Trump is biased. Netanyahu is biased. Khamenei is biased. Everyone is biased. Hello. We all are, including you. We think you walk on water. Some of the people that, you know, they look at a, you know, what's the second thing I look at? Track record of being able to reason different issues and being fair.

So I look at your bias, set it aside. I don't try to change it. Track record of being able to reason, second, to see who I'm listening to. Three, do you have a track record of being fair? Four, how often have you been right? That's the process I go through.

So today, when you watch the president, imagine how much shit he's hearing and he still says, "Nope, we're attacking. Nope, this is what we're doing. Nope, that's what I'm going to be doing. Nope." And quite frankly, I don't give a shit if you agree or disagree and you threaten to leave the party and tell everybody to impeach and all. I don't care. This is what I'm doing. Fortunately and unfortunately, I'll give you both sides.

Most people don't have a backbone like that. Most people will break. Trust me. Most people would break under similar circumstances. This man didn't. He led. And he's going around pushing his agenda that he had in place of America first. And if you have a problem with that, totally get it. You have biases, though. For me, when people say, why is Patrick so much against the war from 1941 to 1977? Really? Really?

Let me tell you, a guy asked me a question, a Muslim guy asked me a question on Manette. Okay, Rob, I'm going to text this to you. And folks, do me a favor and please go copy paste this and ask this on grock.com.

Ask this on, what do you call it? What's the other one? Ask this on Grog. ChatGBT. Ask this on ChatGBT. Ask this on every single platform you can to verify it. Rob, I just texted it to you. Got it. Put it up there and do me a favor. Put it in chat. Don't even put it in chat. Actually, you can put it in chat. I want everybody to go copy paste this and go to ChatGBT and Grog and read it for yourself.

We're living in Iran. Iran is doing its thing. You can be a Christian, Muslim, Shia, whatever you want to be. Communists, do whatever you want to be. My mother's family were communists. They were happily living in Iran. They were communists. Two-day party. It wasn't Iran. All of these things that was taking place, and then all of a sudden, a man named Khomeini comes back to Iran, and things change. Now, whatever religion you are,

When you type in on ChatGBT or Google or Grok, who are the top 5, 10 most influential figures in the Islamic religion? You know you will always find one name in that community that's one of the top 10 most influential. His name is Khomeini. Okay? Khomeini comes and takes over. A lot of people mess up. Even yesterday I'm talking to my wife. What's the difference between Khomeini and Khamenei? One letter.

One is Khamenei, the other one is Khomeini. It's like Johnson and Jensen. Why would you do Johnson and Jensen? It's Khomeini Khamenei. And it's a very easy name to pronounce, right? Khomeini Khamenei. When you pronounce it, you have a sore throat afterwards. That's what happens to many of us Iranians. Our throat is stronger than many of the average Americans. So watch this here. Top influential leaders, Islamists.

What do you see on number three? Khomeini. Let the 1979 Iranian revolution establish the first modern Islamic theocracy. Here's a book that he wrote in the 60s.

You wonder why so many family people who have kids, who have a hard time, who want that structure to change? I sent this copy-paste to Rob. Rob, can I ask, can I read the question to everybody that I sent to you? Go to ChatGBT. This is the question. I want everybody that's watching this, go fact-check this. Did Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini write a religious legal manual in the 1960s called the Tahrir al-Wasilah, often offered to in the West as the little green book?

Did he say in that book, a man can marry a girl younger than nine years old. However, he is not permitted to have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches nine. But other sexual pleasures, such as touching with lust, embracing and placing the penis between the thighs are not forbidden.

You go put that in there and verify that. Look what it says. Yes, Ayatollah Khomeini did write a religious book, this. And what's in it? It is a manual of Islamic covering topics from personal conduct, rituals and politics, etc., etc. Go a little bit lower to see the controversial quote. The quote that's widely cited passage from the book generally translated, a man can marry a girl younger than nine years old, however, is not authentic.

to have vaginal intercourse with her until she reaches age nine, but other sexual pleasures such as touching with lust and brazenness. This passage does appear in the book. Go a little bit lower, Rob. It does appear in the book. Now, you can go back, go check it, read all of it. Please bring the camera back to me. So for some of you that say, you are a puppet of this, you are a puppet of that, you are a Mossad Zionist, all this stuff that people make the claims that they do. No, no. I am against...

a man marrying a girl under the age of nine. I am against talking about it's okay to have vaginal intercourse with a kid at nine years old. I'm against that. And by the way, something tells me you are as well.

Something tells me you are as well that's watching this. So for someone who says, well, that's not, I just told you he is one of the top five, 10 most influential people in the world in Iran. You say something like that? Do you not think the average person that's not even religious, what percentage of people do you know, Vinny, that are not even religious? They're just trying to live a good life.

So forget about it for a second. I don't believe in God, let's just say. I had a problem with God. Imagine one of the faces of that religion just wrote that in a book. Why would you read that book? What would you say? Would you go like, all right, like meditation. Oh, interesting. So I can marry somebody under the age of nine. Put the penis under the thighs. All right, very normal. Let me go to the next chapter. That's weird. No matter what you believe in. You know who else says this is weird? Parents, fathers, mothers, siblings.

I read this to my sons yesterday, they're like, "What is he talking about? My sister just turned nine." Exactly! Do you realize why the average Iranian is sitting there saying, "I just want this religion out of the freaking picture." And I say, "But that's not everybody." Doesn't need to be everybody. Most Muslims I've met, I'm good with. But I've met some extremists, let me tell you, in Iran, in Germany, here in the military, I've met them many, many different places.

The reason why a lot of people want that to change is because Khamenei follows Khomeini's guidelines. And Khomeini was more influential than Khamenei. This is why a lot of Iranians want that to change and a lot of people around the world who are having these people. Right now, there's a story that came out that there's 1,500 to 2,000 Iranians that came to U.S. illegally. Did you guys see this? Did you see this report, Rob? Tom, did you see this story? Yeah.

There's about 1,500 to 2,000 Iranians that may have crossed the border illegally that made it out here. Guess what? A lot of people are worried. I'll find this link and send it over to you. A lot of people worry about what's going on. That's just not the way the average person wants to live their lives. Vin, your thoughts? Can I say one thing? Yeah, please. You know what the saddest thing is, Tom? That's not shocking. Because where do you think Khomeini got that?

from that type of attitude and that type of mentality is their prophet Muhammad. Okay, let's just call it for what it is. He got married to Aisha, okay, when she was six, and then they consummated the marriage, which it became physical at nine. This isn't like he came out of it from nowhere. You should see the freaking arguments. And I'm talking about back and forth for days about people going, yeah, but this was the time. This was, and I go, listen to me. There's a difference between by God

my Jesus Christ, and your God. Never, I don't care what time it is, I don't give a damn what period of time, doing something with a six or a nine-year-old, you're going to convince me, Vincent O'Shaughnessy, that it is right. There's no time frame. There's no, well, everybody was doing it. It's a bullshit organization.

And that's just one side of it. And then there's the extremists. We're killing innocent people for your God. It means you're going to go somewhere with 72 virgins, and that's your reward for martyrdom. No, no. It's a shitty, shitty argument. By the way, I criticize the other side. And Adam, everybody knows this. I could criticize Israel. I could criticize the leadership. But that type of doctrine, that doctrine,

And everybody knows this, Pat. Remember we talked about the sword that I'll die on. You know we're on that, especially with this. I don't give a shit if it's here. I don't give a shit if it's there. It's wrong. And you cannot convince me that that's good. I don't care what time. And that's the attitude of the leader of this country. That's how he thinks. Period. I don't agree with it at all.

Yeah, so obviously this is a very, Adam, you look like you want to say something. Yeah, well, I think ironically it's going to be the one Jewish guy that kind of gives a little sense of nuance here, because as much as I agree with what you're saying, I think we just need to understand there's a big difference between being a Muslim and being an Islamist. Just like there's a big difference between being a Persian...

and being an Iranian IRGC advocate, or being a Christian and a televangelist, or being Jewish and a Zionist. But what you're saying makes a lot of sense, and it makes me wonder, what are the gays of Gaza movement? What are these progressive jihadists

Have they heard any of this? Because if they've heard this, that means they're willfully and vocally advocating for everything you just read. So we talk about the gays and the grooming. I always will come back to this whole gays for Gaza, progressive jihadist, inconvenient marriage makes no sense to me.

But now it makes a little bit more sense, especially if you're able to groom kids based on a doctrine. Very weird. And not everybody signs up for this. So be careful what you're purchasing. That's my only thoughts. Yeah. And by the way, what you just said, a lot of people said that was the time. That was 600 years. I don't give a shit. What Khomeini wrote was only 60 years ago. 60 years ago. 60 years ago. Yeah. You're not talking about 400 years ago. Yeah. That's 1960s. He's not changing at all. No, no, no. This is not a...

This is not a new thing. And it's not like it ended when he wrote the book. There's still living gas. Yeah, yeah. So let's go to the next one here. This has to do with business. And Tom, I'm coming to you with this one here. U.S. calls on China to prevent Iran from closing straight of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. Now, Iran government poised to shut it down, closing off 20% of global oil and gas. And this is what Rubio had to say about this. Go for it, Rob.

we were leaving that for future generations the secretary final question here do you expect iran to move to close the strait of hormuz to try to disrupt oil uh transportation across the world

Well, I encourage the Chinese government in Beijing to call them about that because they heavily depend on the Straits of Hormuz for their oil. If they do that, it will be another terrible mistake. It's economic suicide for them if they do it. And we retain options to deal with that. But other countries should be looking at that as well. It would hurt other countries' economies a lot worse than ours. It would be, I think, a massive escalation that would merit a response, not just by us, but from others. So, look, they're going to...

They're going to say what they need to say. You know, these are the things that need to happen for their own internal politics and so forth. But in the end, we're going to judge them by the actions that they take moving forward. We had three objectives. We struck those three objectives with decisive force. And that was the point of this mission. And that's what we achieved. What happens next will depend on what they do. They want to negotiate. We're ready to negotiate. They want to get cute and do things that are dangerous. We have responses available that are devastating.

Secretary, was China complicit? We know that jets flew into Iran. We don't know what were on those jets. No, we don't have any evidence that the Chinese were involved in it.

Tom, thoughts on this? So as well, Iran's largest trading partner is China on an import-export basis. They go back and forth, and China has been trying to develop this relationship because China's got a lot of people and a lot of land but not a lot of energy resources, and they need energy partners, which is why they turned to the north, to Russian for natural gas, and this is why they were in the –

And with Iran trying to build this and they have a very intricate economic relationship. And Rubio very astutely says, hey, it's not like we're calling China. Hey, buddy, you're a big country in the world, too. Could you call Iran and just let them know? No, it's like, hey, China.

You know, you need their energy. You need stuff like this. When they close that port, the first country that gets impacted outside of Iran themselves, who stops getting economic, you know, stops getting money, stops part of their own economy, is you, dude.

So why don't you call them? And he says, you're calling me while you're negotiating with me and you're kicking me in the balls and you're trying to get us to do this deal on a trade deal. Hey, dude, what we talk with you is what we talk with you about. I'm saying it's in your best interest to call Iran and tell them not to close the straits here because you need the oil too. And so Rubio is very astutely pointing out that

You know, suddenly there's a question that has to be asked of China, which is, you know what, this hurts you. What are you going to do about it? Because this is a global problem. This is not a Middle East problem. So you know what this does, though, Tom? What do you have here, Rob, with J.D. Vance? This is also J.D. Vance speaking about the Strait of Hormuz closure and the effects. Go for it.

Iran disrupts shipping in the Strait of Hormuz, which of course handles about a quarter of the world's oil trade. Would that be a red line for the United States, Mr. Vice President? Well, Kristen, I think our biggest red line is the Iranian nuclear weapons program. That is really what the president has said we need to get rid of. But what about the Strait of Hormuz?

Well, I think that would be suicidal, Kristen, for the Iranians themselves. I mean, their entire economy runs through the Strait of Hormuz. If they want to destroy their own economy and cause disruptions in the world, I think that would be their decision. But why would they do that? I don't think it makes any sense. I don't think that it makes sense for them or for anybody else. What would make sense is for them to come to the negotiating table to actually give up their nuclear weapons program over the long term.

If they're willing to do that, they're going to find a willing partner in the United States of America. Yeah. So, you know, you know what this this brings to a conversation of Adam, were you going to say something about this? Yeah. You know, when you talk about economic suicide doing this, does anybody believe Iran at all at this point? You know, when you know Iran is lying or when the Ayatollah is lying or the IRG is lying, when their lips are moving.

At what point are their words and their threats gonna be taken seriously? "Oh, tomorrow's the day. You wait and see. Everyone's gonna get it. I swear." Nothing. Nothing comes from these people. All they do is talk. They can't even fight their own wars. Everything they do is a proxy.

These people have been talking about death to America, death to Israel, death to the great Satan. They're crumbling. They have no credibility at this point. So now they're going to turn off their own economic lifeline to do what? It makes no sense to me. They're a backwards way of thinking, and none of their threats come to fruition. And you're also seeing China. Didn't China call Islam or Islam extremism a mental disorder? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Did the CCP not say that? They closed down a bunch of mosques too, didn't they, Adam, in China? Number two, you're starting to see Russia turn its back on Iran. One of the main stories in the Wall Street Journal is how Putin has now turned a cold shoulder onto Iran. Quote, unquote, Russia is not as good of a friend or ally.

ally as it pretends to be with Iran. Putin often turns his back on his autocratic friends when they need him. So with friends like these who needs enemies, I don't see anybody coming to Iran's defense, including Qatar, who's number two on the list of state-sponsored terrorism or terrorism advocacy.

Iran does nothing but make threats. Even when they bombed the military site in Qatar, they gave them a heads up

only to save face. They're basically like, look, I know you kicked the living crap out of me, but I at least got to show some resolve and some strength. So move all your assets out of there, Qatar, while I bomb and give you a heads up while I'm doing it. Does anybody think the people that are running the country of Iran have any credibility at this point? So my answer is no. Rob, can you chat this real quick, what Adam just said? Did China call Islam a mental disorder?

I want to make sure we address that because we've heard it on many different stories that we have read about. But I just want to fact check this here because that's a big statement. Zoom in a little bit if you could, Rob. Let's see what it says. I'm looking at something. Check and check. I'm sure. And also Google, if they have re-education camps. I've not seen a research like that.

that is coming up. That's very weird what Chad Gibbete is doing. Maybe you just offend the Chad Gibbete. Rob, today you may want to be careful when you drive home to see because it's not happy with you. But it's no secret what's going on with the Uyghurs in China. That's not a secret. They're all in re-education camps curing them from Islam. Okay, here we go. Yes, the Chinese government has in fact portrayed Islam, especially amongst Uyghurs,

In Xinjiang, not merely as a religion, but as a form of mental illness or ideological disease that requires treatment or cure. The Chinese really said that. According to Al Jazeera, Beijing has described Islam as a mental illness that needs to be cured with its re-education camp aimed at Uyghur Muslims. The Atlantic reports that Chinese authorities liken their camps to hospitals, treaty religions, extremism as a psychological condition to be remedied.

A detailed summary in New York Magazine, Intelligencer explains that Islam was officially framed by Chinese officials as infectious ideological illness cleansed from their brain. Additional human rights. Wow. Pretty, pretty... And just to add to that... And this is the biggest backer of Iran? Correct me if I'm wrong. The CCP is the biggest funder of the IRGC and Ayatollah. I just...

Circle that square for me, how when they call your entire religion doctrine a mental disorder, yet you're following their lead. Make that make sense to me. And Adam, I had to fact check myself because I said that they destroyed, China destroyed a mosque. Yes, the Chinese government has destroyed or repurposed hundreds of mosques, especially in Xinjiang, where the majority of the Uyghur Muslim population lives. In 2019, The Guardian and Bellicat revealed that over 30% of mosques in Xinjiang were damaged or destroyed.

And they're saying why? It's because Chinese campaign of religious and cultural suppression particularly targeted Muslims under the guise of counterterrorism and anti-extremism. So that's what China is doing. By the way, you know what this makes me think about? Here's what it makes me think about. I watch everyone's argument and I try to see how deep the argument can go because this is how arguments and ideas work. You first pitch an idea or you make an argument.

And if you're very convincing, what does the other side do? Maybe they believe you because of how convincing you deliver your message. Your conviction. Conviction is needed. So you're like, okay, you're a good salesperson. I got it. But then you watch somebody push you back on your idea. And then that person make an argument. It's like, okay, let's see what you're going to say now. And then you make an argument. I'm like, oh, that was actually pretty good. And then all of a sudden, boom, your argument starts breaking and breaking and breaking and breaking. The argument of American only versus America first.

Kind of what we were talking about yesterday, right? America only versus America first. Do you know why that argument eventually loses the America only? If you're America only, you can't get involved in straight up whore moves. You have to try to generate that on your own.

Because now if there's a war there, you're like, no, no, no, we're America only. We're not going to get involved. You kind of have to because your people are relying on you to make good decisions to get the oil that we need, whatever. Yeah, if you're America only...

If you don't have, like for me, I think we have 800 military bases around the world. That's a lot that we have. Now, if you don't do it, the enemy will do it. If the enemy does it and the enemy gets more influence, then when it comes down to having leverage and time to do the things you want to do, then all of a sudden what happens? You don't have any control. If you're America-only, it almost, the people that say America-only...

There's an element of them that they're solopreneurs, Tom. You know what I mean by solopreneur? Totally. You talk to a solopreneur. Like in PHP, I had insurance agents that were just producers, and they couldn't stand building an agency. You know why? Because what does building an agency require you to be able to do? Focus, work, determination, follow the playbook, stick with the program. What is the most annoying thing about building an agency?

having to lose people and recruit people at the same time. Simplify, Tom. What is the most annoying thing about getting married and having kids? What's the most annoying thing about building a company? What is the most annoying thing about building a team? What is the most annoying thing about playing football where you're dealing with 52 players versus being a tennis player? All personalities. People and relationships. That's it. It's not turnkey. Number one, human beings are annoying. Right.

By the way, all of us are annoying to some. I guarantee you, I'm annoying to a lot of people. I guarantee Vinny, as funny as you are, I guarantee you're annoying. The only person on this set that is not annoying to anybody, it's Adam. Adam doesn't annoy anybody. He's the only guy that is the most annoying person I've met. It's hard being perfect, PBD. I get it. Most of us don't walk on water like you. But you're getting used to it. The whole thing about America only versus America first...

A solopreneur is sick and tired of managing employees because it's hard. It sucks. A solopreneur that they try to run a business like, you know, Bill Maher, $15 million raised to say, we're going to build a podcast agency. Then they do it. Oh, I hate this shit. Why? Drama, drama, drama. My producer doesn't work. Where are the notes? How come you don't have this? They do it better. They do this and they do that. Shut the whole thing down. This thing sucks. I don't want to work with anybody. No shit. It's hard.

So that's why it's like podcaster only, solopreneur. I'm just going to do myself. It's not possible for you to have an America only mindset. You know what's the best story about the America only argument? Check this out. One of the most important business meetings in the last 100 years in America. This has probably got to be in the top 10 meetings in the last 100 years. And Tom, let me see if you're going to see where I'm going with this. You ready? Who are...

Two of the most influential founders in the history of business the last 50 years. Gates and Jobs to be on my list. Gates and Jobs. Do you know who was more competitive between the two? Some will say Jobs. Gates was pretty competitive. But do you know what ends up happening? One day, Apple is about to go out of business. And Steve Jobs holds a meeting. And if you've never seen this, it's so powerful. Rob, if you can find it, it's awesome to watch.

Jobs gets up on stage. Who is Apple only? Of course. He hates Microsoft passionately. He gets up on stage and he says, for the longest time at Apple, we thought in order for Apple to win, Microsoft must lose. And he says, but the reality of it is that's not the right way of thinking. When Apple's about to go out of business, guess who gives Apple money? Microsoft? How much money do they give them? I think it's like $300 million, give or take.

Real money. Real money. Microsoft gives Steve Jobs $300 million. Just to have a competitor? Apple is about to shut it down. They were going through a terrible season. The computers weren't selling. They're going through a very rough time. So an Apple-only company, Mindset, decides to team up with the enemy. Yeah. They raise the money. You know what Microsoft worth today? You know what Apple has worth today? I think both of them are worth it. Apple's the biggest, though, right? I think both Apple and Microsoft are worth it.

are worth $3 trillion today. People that worked at Apple made millions of dollars. Some made billions of dollars. Tim Cook is officially a billionaire. A lot of people that worked at Microsoft, many made millions, many made billions. Ballmer now is as rich as Steve Jobs, as rich as, what do you call it? Gates? Gates is. The mindset of America only is limited. It's just hard to do when your country is this big.

It's very hard to do. Look at this market cap. Which one, Rob? This is Microsoft. $3.63 trillion. And what was Apple? $3 trillion. $3 trillion. The idea of being able to work together, they brought $6.5 trillion of money to American people, people around the world. That's why American only is limited on the argument. It hits a wall eventually.

If that concept doesn't work in marriage, if that concept, we're going to do it ourselves. We don't need anybody's help. Dude, then you're not going to have date nights. You need a babysitter. No, we don't need nobody's help. You do.

No, we're going to do this company by ourselves. You need to hire people. You can't do it all by yourself. So every time you see like straight of Hormuz, all this, we need to negotiate, we need to negotiate. It shows. Do you think America needs Iran to be working with them on straight of Hormuz to not shut it down and destroy? Of course. Who else needs them? China, who else needs them? Russia, everybody. That instance right there tells you America only is out. It's America first that works, not America only. My opinion. My opinion. Okay, let's go to the next story here. New York today. Can I say why I agree with you just real quick? Go ahead, Adam.

Because, you know, they say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. No, not necessarily. And by the way, what happens in the Middle East does not stay in the Middle East. We're now in a global economic contingency where everything is integrated.

So oil, you know, for everyone who thinks that the oil is going to be basically dead, yeah, tell that to Saudi Aramco that I think has a $2 trillion market cap. Only company in the world in the top 10 that's not United States. Global shipping, trade, supply chain, oil, oil, oil, oil. Everything is going to affect the American markets. Everything.

So for the people that want to live like an ostrich and pretend, oh, no, let's not get involved. Let's not get involved. Be the libertarians of America. Where's Dave Smith's argument at this point? It's very limited in scope because anybody that's a true actor realizes America has to lead. Because if we get out of the Middle East, if we get out of Taiwan, who's going to fill that vacuum? I'll ask you.

Russia's gonna step in, China's gonna step in, and all these bad actors are gonna fill that vacuum. I'd rather have American hegemony over the rest of the world than China or Russia or Iran any day. So fully agree with you on the America first versus America only, PBD. Yeah, it's limited. It's a noble argument. Trust me, it's a very noble argument. Everybody that's saying it, I understand they're coming from a very, very noble place. Let me take care of my family.

my job michael jackson song is what if you want to make the world uh better what does it say look at yourself and make a change right so i get it i understand that i understand that yeah i mean right there but but but at the same time unfortunately if you want to make a change once or no okay that's the proper fall yeah we're gonna go when a plane is falling you don't put on the air mask

and only you put it on first and then oh thank you so much Adam for your help with that because you know I love it this is why we need Adam in our lives to give us input like that you're amazing Adam some of us don't fly private so we gotta remember those instructions listen with all the APAC money you're getting from Israel we all know how you travel you drive a we've been playing on money

according to some people adam's got some real money we don't know about it guys i admit it on camera yeah all right okay so let's go to let's go to what's going on in new york today new york folks is

It's a bit of a shit show right now with this election that they got going on for the mayoral. Just a bit? Yeah, it is so wild. Rob, do you have the video? I want to read this to you before I go to this. What page is the candidate on about New York's mayoral candidate? Rob, if you can't give it to me, I'll go to it. I don't know why I can't find it. That is under. I know I marked it off. You know what? That's addendum. I'm sorry. I'll go to addendum. All right. So check this out, folks.

So, Mamdani shoots up a New York City polymarket odds after surging ahead of Andrew Cuomo in poll. This is USA Today. I'm going to read this and I want you to watch a clip of him.

Zohran Mamdani, a 33-year-old second-term assembly member, briefly surpassed former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo as a frontrunner in New York City Democratic mayoral primary on June 23rd, according to PolyMarket, a cryptocurrency-based prediction market headquartered in New York City. The June 23rd Emerson College polling

Mark at headquarter in New York City. The June 20th survey showed Cuomo with 35% support in the first round, followed by Mamdani 32%. With Mamdani now 52% to 48% after eight rounds of ranked choice voting. The Emerson poll conducted June 18th through 20th with over 830 likely early voters, had a 3.3% margin of error, marked a significant shift.

As the most previous poll showed, Cuomo leading by 10 points. Rob, here's a clip. Oh, that's the Pauly Market? Yeah. Whoa. Yahtzee. Cuomo had a massive lead, and then all of a sudden, boom. How much of that do you think the end has to do with Israel-Iran war right now that's taking place? Obviously, that's the only thing that would make that dramatic of a shift. Can you play a clip of this guy to see how he views the economy? I think there's a video of him breaking down what he would do to the supermarkets in New York. And tell me if you recognize this clip.

other countries that have tried this and if it's worked or not. Go ahead, Rob. Grocery prices are out of control. The cost of eggs and milk has skyrocketed. Some stores are even using dynamic pricing, jacking up the cost over the course of a day, depending on what they can get away with. It doesn't need to be this way. I'm Zahran Mandani, and as mayor, I will create a network of city-owned grocery stores. It's like a public option.

for produce. We will redirect city funds from corporate supermarkets to city-owned grocery stores whose mission is lower prices, not price gouging. These stores will operate without a profit motive or having to pay property taxes or rent and will pass on those savings to you.

Okay. So, Tom, economically, does that make any sense to you? No. And what's happening over with Zoran, and by the way, he is so easy. The unfortunate thing about his last name is it quickly becomes Madman, Madmanny.

So we have this mad Manny, and he is basically saying all things socialist. In the space of three weeks, he said, no GPAs. I'm going to change public high schools. We're going to own grocery stores, and we're going to fill them. Ask the people in the Soviet Union how that worked out. The shelves were never full. Things didn't work. The five-year plan for crops didn't work. It didn't work. Now he wants to bring that in New York. Oh, so we're going to run...

state-owned, city-owned supermarkets, that's going to change the price of an apple that's being sold by the farmer? No, it doesn't. Inflation changes that. Diesel fuel to ship for that truck to drive the apples around changes that. So he's doing that. And he keeps going down the list. But guess what? There's a bunch of people who are behind it. And so New Yorkers have to decide what they want. And by the way, the reason Cuomo looks so good is

It's like if you ever watch the Miss USA and they bring out the women in alphabetical order. And for 31 seconds, Miss Afghanistan is the most beautiful woman on the stage because she's the only woman on the stage. And that's what happened to Cuomo. He was the only woman on the stage.

And now there's an alternative out there and New Yorkers are actually some of them are choosing a psychopathic liberal spouting socialist Marcus Marxist ideology on one side and on the other side they're rejecting a politician returning to the ring with some baggage with some COVID baggage. You got to say it. It's there.

and choosing to get back in the ring as mayor of New York, but with people surveyed believing he doesn't want to be mayor long-term. He really has other aspirations. He wants to get back in the bigger ring. And so that's what's going on here. But Zoran, madman, this is...

Good Lord, New Yorkers. In the last election, you shifted more than you ever have. And now you're turning back to this? Free stuff? Take away merit-based high schools? Take away GPAs? State-run stores? None of that ends well. And we've got 65 years of socialist Marxist experiments around the world to see it. But you know what? If they vote for it, I guess they deserve it. Vinny, thoughts? Well, I mean...

First of all, can we just take a second? Besides Los Angeles, Tom, New York. Can we just point out that this is the Democratic leadership? Like, they cannot...

The pool of people for them to vote on is absolutely ridiculous. Okay? First, like you said, Tom, a disgraced ex-governor who wiped out, almost wiped out single-handedly the nursing home population in New York during COVID. I'm not afraid to say it, Tom. I'll say it. You got Eric Adams who begged...

Remember? Begged for illegals to come. They're making a sanctuary city. And then he crocked foul when they showed up. And then all of a sudden, he's flipping, and now he sounds more Republican than everything. And he's under investigation from the FBI. So New York, just from the jump, is good. You make a good point about they usually don't have a lot of choices. It's usually like a scale. It goes from guano to fertilizer to manure to horse shit, all of it wrapped in bullshit. Yeah, exactly. And ladies and gentlemen, the Democrat primary! Yeah, exactly.

But here's my question to them. I don't want to laugh about it. When are they going to wake up? When are you going to get it? And, like, this guy is a radical Marxist. Okay, he has Islamic, like, supremacist background. All right? And imagine telling the families of 9-11 24 years later that this guy, this, like, jihadi-backed freaking Marxist is going to get –

It looks like he's going to get elected. And there's a guy named Trevor Loudon. He's an expert on Marxist and terrorist groups. He said that Mamdani is a Marxist member of the Democratic Socialists of America, DSA. He's a 12-er Shia Muslim, which, Adam, you'll love this. Same sect.

as Iran's ruling regime right now, and you know what they're about. His father supports Hamas and called Israelis Nazis. And Tom, you'll know this, the last time New York City had a Marxist mayor from the DSA, do you know who it was?

David Dinkins in the 1990s. And guess what happened? Crime skyrocketed. Drugs were flooded into the streets. Businesses shut down. Times Square became a freaking cesspool and tourism collapsed. And then the city nearly died. But Giuliani had to rescue New York from the wreckage. Now it's happening again, but this time with a Marxist, with Islamic supremacy tied in. I'm telling you right now, if they win, this is...

Just look at London, look at Europe, look at France, and just to see what's going to happen. Okay? Crime is going to explode, terror is going to become normalized, and the city is going to turn into a third world zone. You'll see it. And their tax base is already changing right before their eyes as wealthy people and businesses move out of the city proper, meaning the five boroughs. By the way, keep this in mind. AOC totally supports him. This is him out there on the streets. Watch this one here, folks. This is him. Go for it. Very friendly. William...

How many more do you want? Did you hear what he said? He's screaming at Tom Holman. Do you believe in the First Amendment? So this guy's definitely not about securing the border. So you already know if you do something with this guy, you're going to get de Blasio 2.0.

When you get into it. And by the way, go to AOC, Rob, what I just sent you, two things, New York Times, AOC endorses them, and also they're out there in the video, the video I sent you, I don't know if you see the video, of them protesting together, not protesting together, marching together. She's got the Puerto Rico, is this, yeah, that's the one right there, Rob. Watch this, Vinny, you will love this. That's AOC in the red with Mamdani. Okay?

Oh, my God. So, I mean, they're doing their part, too. They're doing their part. But New York City's got to step up and do something about this. Adam, do you have any thoughts on this? Yeah, well, let me look on the bright side. You know, you always say this. Elections have consequences. So New York City, get ready for the consequences. You know, I will give this guy credit. Authenticity matters. I believe he stands for what he says. You know, when someone tells you who they are, believe them. He tells you.

I'm a democratic socialist. I am a pro-Palestine, anti-Israel democratic socialist. I'm with the squad. I'm with Bernie. I'm with AOC. This is who I am. I co-founded the Justice for Palestine. Why are we surprised by any of this? You know, this is eerily reminiscent, these odds on the polymarket, of exactly what happened in Canada just a few months ago. Pierre Polyev was 90% likely to win

A couple of weeks before the election, Mark Carney surges in the polls, Justin Trudeau's out, and now Canada is run by another leftist. So New York, your time to shine is either over or it's just starting. So one of the interviews that you did recently, BBD, that I've watched, not once, not twice, three times is Tommy Robinson. He's warned us.

It's coming for you. It's probably too late for what's happened in London. It's probably too late for what's happened in Paris. It's probably too late for what's happened in cities all around Europe. New York, you're about to have potentially a democratic, socialist, progressive, jihadist mayor. This is a far throw from what Rudy Giuliani was when he cleaned up the streets of New York. Best of luck.

It's not good, Pat. And Pat, can I just really, really fast? Yeah, of course. Because AOC and all them are talking shit. What's her name? Jasmine Crockett, everything, because they're trying to impeach Trump for what he's doing, especially in the Middle East with what happened. Just to reel it in really fast, just to FYI for everybody out there that's talking shit about Trump, about the bombings.

Guess how many bombs Barack Obama dropped in his last year of his presidency. Want to take a wild guess? 26,172. He dropped almost 12,200 on Syria, 12,000 in Iraq, almost 500 in Libya, Yemen, Somalia, and Pakistan. So for everybody out there that's talking shit about Trump, agree or disagree, for them to be out there—and Trump just tweeted at AOC. I'm not going to read it, Pat.

It's long as hell. I just sent it to Rob. I'll just give you the beginning of it, Robbie. He says, and you guys will love it, stupid AOC, Alexandria Cortez, one of the dumbest people in Congress is now calling for my impeachment despite the fact that crooked and corrupt Democrats have already done that twice before. It's just like, it's such a, what is it when you select what you want to be argued about, Tom, but the other side's been doing it forever?

Yeah. You know, the Democrat actually comes out of the 60s, but it's like accuse the incumbent opponent of doing exactly what you are already doing. Yeah, exactly. And they've been doing it for freaking how long? Get ready for prices in Miami and in Florida to start surging because I feel like a lot of millionaires and billionaires and job creators, people.

people who are not a fan of not only his ideology, but just straight up socialism are going to get the hell out of there. Just like they left during COVID. It's funny you're saying this. It's like wave 2.0. Yeah, if you go to DeSantis' tweet, he's just saying what DeSantis said two days ago. If you go to DeSantis' tweet, you'll see what DeSantis said. And Adam is right. Check this out. DeSantis said two days ago,

go a little bit higher. I think it's that one right there. Zoom in right there, right at the top. Just when you thought Palm Beach real estate couldn't go any higher. You know what he's saying. By the way, look how many people retweeted that and liked that post. Go a little bit lower. It's one of his most, 3.2 million right there, 1,400 comments. Okay, so nothing's going to be changing with New York. Guess what I'm doing? I'm moving to Florida. Damn right. This is another however many years you got to deal with. You know they say the canary in the coal mine? You've heard that term? Yeah.

This might be it for America. But I'm going to tell you guys, these two are not in the same league. Not at all. They're not in the same league. Andrew Cuomo knows how to govern. Yep. And he's being a mayor. He had a massive, massive, catastrophic mistake. Don't make any ifs and abones. He made a massive, massive mistake.

But they're not in the same league. And one hour ago, Cuomo was leading him by 14 points in the survey. One hour ago? Yeah, one hour ago. So we'll see what's going to happen here. I think at the end of the day, they're going to just settle down and go with Andrew Cuomo, and he'll be the mayor of New York City. He's got to turn up his campaign because right now he's kind of vanilla. Yeah, let's go to the next one. U.S. Trump, big, beautiful bill gets slimmed down in Senate. Adam, I'm going to come to you with this one here.

President Trump's tax and spending mega bill described as a big beautiful bill is being scaled back in the Senate after Senate parliamentarian. Elizabeth McDowell ruled several provisions eligible in the budget reconciliation process, which requires measures to be primarily budget related to a simple majority vote. Chuck Schumer praised the decision and a few others. McDonald's ruling removed provisions like the one requiring state to pay part of the food benefits based on

payments are projected to save $128 billion over a decade, and a few other things. Adam, your thoughts on this? Well, anyone that's interested in knowing how a bill becomes a law, I encourage you to watch the video that they made us watch when we were in eighth grade. Everyone freaks out.

When something passes in the House, oh, my God, it's going to raise the debt ceiling. Oh, my God, we're going to spend so much money. Oh, my God. Relax. The Senate has been called the cooling saucer for when the House heats up the agenda. So what happens is the Senate will come in and be like, I don't know about all this. You know who looks very, very bad right now is Elon Musk.

Because Elon Musk was calling for dismantling this bill and saying that it basically led to their complete, just destroying their relationship. I haven't heard much of it since a week ago, since this Iran thing. But in my opinion, Elon spoke way too soon. He started basically criticizing everything to anybody that's been following any time a bill becomes a law.

It doesn't just get approved immediately. It's just like the debt ceiling. Tom would know this better than anybody. How many times are they saying, oh, my God, we're going over the edge. It's over. And then all of a sudden they save the day and pass a continuing resolution to make sure that we actually have enough money to fund the government. Every October. This is how government works. This is how the United States government works. We get to see how the sausage is made.

It's not pretty, but that's what it's like being in America. You get to eliminate what you don't want, and hopefully they're eliminating all the pork and basically the items that will drive up the debt. So we'll see what happens here, but it's not approved yet. Big, beautiful bill.

So whenever things go to the Senate, that's where the real big things happen. Why is that? Because senators have longer terms in office and much bigger, more expensive campaigns and much bigger interest. They say companies elect congressmen, representatives, industries elect senators.

And so the Senate is coming and making bigger cuts on this. And you look at what's going on in there, what they talked about, and that they want to eliminate. So you've got to post bonds for injunctions against the government and proposals defund the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and merge the Public Company Accounting Oversight Board and the Securities Exchange Commission. Those were refinements that were coming out of Congress.

Congress. And now the Senate is looking at, well, not so fast. Let's not, you know, because I got everybody in the energy sector who doesn't want to see you suddenly have a consolidation of regulatory authority. You see how that works, Pat? So you got everybody behind Senator Blowhard, you know, and saying, hey, man, you know, you better take this out of this bill, man.

Because we don't want this. Who doesn't want it? Well, I'm standing here representing Exxon and Chevron. I know who the hell you are. I know you represent the entire petroleum industry. But that's what's going on right now is the big, beautiful bill. Some of the more restrictive things get restricted because industries use their power over, say, five congressmen, which is 5% of the total votes that you need to get something of the Senate. But 10%.

of the votes to get it passed. So if you and I were the energy sector, Pat, remember, we only have to get to five congressmen to have 10% of what we need on the 51% passage. What's the chances that Ilan read the entire bill? The chances that Ilan read the bill, I think it's very, very low. But did he get summaries from Grok and go through things like that? I believe he did. Okay, so what's the chances that

When he's reading the bill, what do you think are the top three things he's looking for in the bill that got him to pop off? Well, I think we can safely say that the 70... Look, he's the number one market shareholder of EVs. Okay. So when $7,500 credit for anyone buying a new EV in the industry, he can say that benefits the whole...

you know, EV industry. And I think that got him to pop off. He was also very upset about NASA funding. And what he wanted was a hard integration of SpaceX and the Dragon capsule that went up and ultimately offered to save the astronauts who were stuck in the space station.

So I think there was NASA, and I also think there were things for the EV industry, like that $7,500 credit that he says, oh, that's not only about Tesla. Give me a break. You're 70% of the charging stations, and you're 44% of the market share. Of course that one benefits you more than anybody else, and you can sound noble and say, well, it's about EVs everywhere. But I think those kind of things is what really got him going. Yeah, makes sense. So to me—

I think the main things he's looking at is stuff that he's going to be connected with financially. Tesla, but I think EV is going to be at the top, right? And when you see something that's going to all of a sudden trigger your business, suddenly you go zero to nuclear the way that he did, and it's over with. And if you notice a couple things that we talked about last on Saturday, the emergency meeting of who is in the inner, inner, inner circle. If this is the inner circle of Trump, and let's just say five people are in here.

This is 20 people. This is 50 people. Where is Ilan at right now? Oh, he's on the outside. Oh, yeah. He's outside the third ring. He's outside the third ring. He's out there. I think so as well. And by the way, there's a part of me that thinks he's all so happy and he's done and he's doing what Larry Ellison is doing.

to not want to have as much to do with politics because he really went off last year, 2024, going in all in, fully driving, doing all the stuff that he did. And then all of a sudden, notice what happened with business issues, results, headaches. It's like, I'm out of it. I don't know if I want to mess with it anymore. All right, let's go into the next one. We'll see about that. We don't know yet. We'll see if he's not going to, maybe he's going to make a comeback and we don't know anything about what's going on here with him.

Next story I want to get into, and Tom, I'm coming to you here. Very, very interesting, folks. This is worth you listening to, especially if you want to buy a house, sell a house, whatever you're going through. Story comes out that says more than 1,000, that says new real estate math, half a million more sellers than buyers, Wall Street Journal. While that story's out there, the other story, Financial Times, says Federal Reserve starts to split on when to begin cutting U.S. interest rates. Huh.

What do they mean by this? I can't wait for Tom to tell you guys what Scott Besson's idea is here. Okay, so let me read this to you.

Christopher Waller, no relation to Christopher Walker, walk-in. Federal Governor, potential successor to Federal Reserve System Chair Jay Powell advocated for a rate cut as early as next month, stating in a CNBC interview, we've been on pause for six months thinking there's going to be a big tariff shock to inflation. We haven't seen it. We should be basing policy on the data. This contrasts with Fed's unanimous decision Wednesday to maintain rates at 4.25% to 4.5%,

Despite President Trump pushing to cut race to three and a half points, Trump criticized Powell on Truth Social Friday saying, I don't know why the board doesn't override this total and complete moron. Maybe, just maybe, I have to change my mind about firing him. But regardless, his term ends shortly. Powell, whose term ends in May 2026, acknowledged Wednesday there was a pretty healthy diversity of views on the committee. But noted, with uncertainty as elevated as it is, no one holds these rate paths seriously.

with a lot of conviction. Tom, what idea does Besant have that you want to share with the rest of us? Well, the Fed likes to say that it's neutral, right? They always like to say, well, we're neutral. We're not political, right? They say that all the time. But ladies and gentlemen, it's election season at the Fed. Christopher Waller is a potential successor to Federal Reserve Chairman Jay Powell. So who is in charge of selecting the candidate?

So guess what? It is 10 months to a new Fed chair. We are coming up on 10 months. So isn't it interesting that Christopher Waller doesn't slam Trump?

Mr. Powell, but he certainly says, I think it, I'm on the dot chart and I think maybe it's time to cut. Remember, European Central Bank right now, it's 2.1 to 2.4. That's where the European Central Bank is and we're still at four. So we're two percentage points ahead, I mean, above the European Central Bank. Well, check this out. Why would Christopher Waller be saying something like this? Well, there's also other things going on. Do you

Do you know what Scott Besson, in addition to being in favor of nukes, which is a good thing in my book, in addition to being pro-crypto, which is a good thing in my book,

And in addition to being in favor of cutting rates to help businesses borrow more cheaply, not at zero, but more cheaply, and to help homeowners stimulate the biggest asset that most people have, Besson's in favor of all of that. But you also know what else he's in favor of? He's in favor of this little proposal that says, hey—

maybe we should nominate because the Fed is such a big deal and there's so much impact on the stock market. What will the Fed do? Look at all the interest we have. Vinny, you see it like countdown. It's three days, two days, one day. Powell's going to the microphone. What will he say? It's a big deal, right? And it moves the stock market. Well, Besson has said, hey, you know what? What if we nominate the Fed replacement now?

What if Trump nominates him now? We get him confirmed now. And then the markets know what's going on because we're only 10 months away from a new Fed chairman. And you know whose name is getting floated by some of his friends? Scott Besant. So Scott Besant is saying, you know what, maybe we should do this. And as a matter of fact,

I'd like that job. And so let's make a new Fed chairman, because guess what happens the minute if they did that, even though it's a year before you go into office, it's just like what happens to our president between November and January. Had Biden been, you know, God bless him, a full able bodied president. How much does even the best president get done between November and

the day after the election and the inauguration. Nothing. Because it's called the lame duck period. This would effectively make Powell a lame duck, and you would have Scott Besson, known to be the next Fed coming in, so he would be speaking to the markets. And I found this whole parlor game interesting, and Christopher Waller, no surprise, he wants to be a candidate too, and now he's come out and says, you know, maybe it is time to cut rates. You know what I'll say? Okay. Okay.

So I think, first of all, it's a brilliant idea because it's representing a person. Like if Besson comes out and tells Trump, let's appoint somebody automatically from now that's going to be the person in 2026. And get him confirmed? Yeah. Wow. There's a part of me that likes the idea. There's a part of me that thinks Trump won't do that because it's not his personality because Trump wants people to compete for it to last minute. He doesn't want him to get too comfortable. And if he appoints and confirms, and then all of a sudden this guy and Jay Powell both agree, then he looks horrible.

So confirming too early is a little bit also risky for me. I don't know if I would do that. What if they both want to hold breaks? That is exactly the problem. I would pump the brakes on that. However, I will tell you this. The other thing you got to study on a profile of Jerome Powell, I don't think Jerome Powell gives a shit. I don't think he cares. He's intimidated. He's threatened by his job. He does not give me the vibe of being that guy. I seriously don't think...

He gives me the vibe of being so confident. Who were his parents, by the way? Can we find that? Rob, can you tap on who were Jerome Powell's parents? I want to know who his parents were. Children, he's got three. Spouse, Alyssa Leonard. Who's his pound? Parents, six children. To Patricia...

Hayden and Jerome Powell Sr., lawyer in private practice. His maternal grandfather, James Hayden, was the dean of Columbus School of Law. His mom's dad? Catholic University and later lecturer of Georgetown Law. He has five siblings. He graduated from Georgetown. Yeah, look, this guy was raised properly. Let me tell you, this guy was raised properly. To be that poised, what's his faith? What's his denomination? What does he believe in?

What's his religion? I think he's Catholic. He went to a Jesuit high school. Did he go to a Jesuit university? Georgetown University. So, wow. I mean, if you read Jesuit leadership, that book on how disciplined Jesuits are, Georgetown University, Catholic University of America. He's not a practicing Catholic. Not a practicing Catholic. He has supported the Church of Charitable Efforts in D.C.,

Very interesting, the way he is. He's a very, very interesting guy to be this strong in his, so while he has Catholic roots, he appears to be non-practicing. I don't know. I don't think he wakes up in the morning worried about this. Adam, what do you think? Well, the best way to describe the relationship between Trump and Jerome Powell is if, picture a car,

Trump is the gas and Powell is the brakes. And Trump's trying to go faster, he's trying to speed things up, and Powell's just like, "Relax, buddy. I got this." How many threats, how many broken promises has Trump made about Powell? This is one thing I will say about Trump where he's been dead wrong on. He's done zero to sway Powell's influence or his judgment.

Trump is crushing it right now, I believe, especially with foreign policy this week. But anything with Powell, he's not doing well on. But if you take a look at the numbers, here's what's interesting about the United States right now. Inflation, United States versus the rest of the world. We're killing it. We're doing great. Our core consumer price index, I think, has us at like 2.4%.

The rest of the world is in the mid-fours, 4.3%, 4.4% unemployment, because obviously the Fed is responsible for cooling inflation but also keeping employment right up, right? So employment, I think America is somewhere around 4%, whereas the rest of the world is, I don't know, in the fives, possibly even higher in some countries.

The Fed fund rate, I think, is currently at seven and a half. I'm sorry, four and a half. So the prime rate is seven and a half. United States is sitting really, really pretty compared to the rest of the world. You know where the rest of the world is doing better, at the very least? Take a look at what mortgage rates are in the United States versus the rest of the world. Take a look at what the United States mortgage rates are versus Canada or in countries in Europe.

They're almost double in the United States versus the rest of the world. I don't know why that is. Our prime rate is obviously tethered very closely to the mortgage rates, but mortgage rates are...

A lot lower than the rest of the world. So we'll see what happens with the real estate market, but everything else in the market, inflation, employment, consumer price index is all in the United States' favor right now. All right, let's go to the next story. Two CNN executives both struggling. Network has anxiety sores over cost-cutting after spin-off. Okay, man, if we were in a different place and we would go pick that brand up and just...

flip it easily right now we wouldn't flip it we would flip it on its head and drive it okay uh uh better on uh better on bernardini vice president of domestic news and uh jack smith vice president of digital video are leaving cnn with bernardini having served 28 years and smith 17 years for oliver darcy status newsletter cnn plans to tighten

Expense accounts starting July 1st requiring receipts for travel and source meetings amid anxiety over a corporate spinoff from Warner Brothers, Discovery, WBD, and Global Networks, led by WBD CFO Gunnar Weidenfels, who told staffers in a memo, I'm a deep admirer of CNN and consumerist content.

around the clock cns staffers expressed unease after the spin-off at one telling darcy everyone is wary and tired and there's so much change that we don't understand what direction the company is going in and another noting

There are people who think CNN won't exist at some point. Hard to believe what will happen. But there are people who feel that way. Tom, thoughts on this? How bad is it? It's very bad. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. And these are just people that are reacting to the spinoff. Because the spinoff has said one word, profitability. We have to operate profitable. So we're being spinoffed with a lot of the cable assets into a tracking stock. That stock will act like its own little company. And that's what...

who's the ultimate CEO of your Warner Brothers discovery and it's calling the shot here is decided he's going to take the streaming and the big stuff. He's going to continue to be CFO and the CFO is going to run the other side of it. And what's going on right now, everybody is freaking out because all eyes are on CNN. Why? Because even the people that run CNN, uh,

And even the people that run the spinoff, they see that CNN can and should be more profitable. So guess what? They've been cutting contracts. They've been cutting people. And they've been making changes for a year now coming up to this. And now it's really happening. And you've got people that were there 28 years and 17 years. The party is over. They know the party is over. They don't have automatic positions on.

automatic and these people were upset they actually leaked out to oliver darcy and oliver darcy is a very good source of media gossip from inside and they leaked to oliver darcy oh man it's gonna be bad they're tightening up our expense reports you need receipts for everything well guess what there is another part of that two hour lunches and people were spending excessive amounts on a company credit card for lunch in other words hey we're cnn we get to do everything and

The cuts are coming. And it's, you know what? Anderson Cooper's salary is going to get closer to Caitlin Collins, not the other way around. They're all getting squeezed down because it has to be profitable. And now you're finding layers of management are self-selecting out. And when I see things like this, where the leadership knows exactly what they're doing, Pat.

you ran very large insurance organization. You knew exactly what an incentive program or controls, or maybe it was an incentive program with some specific rules of performance. You knew who was going to say, oh man,

And I'm out before it even start. And you knew who is in, right? You absolutely know that as a leader. Well, that's what's going on here. And I think what they're doing is they're putting on these controls because they want some of this dead dinosaur flesh to just leave the organization. But CNN, you know what? These are just small changes. Rob, can you tap in CNN top line revenue?

CNN top line revenue, if it's public info. I think it's cloaked within what they used to call cable ops. One point. CNN top line revenue based on available data, 1.8 billion 2023. What is it in 2024? Can you tap in 2024? It ain't 1.8 anymore. No, for sure. But what is 2024 CNN top line revenue? Every year it's been going down.

The search results indicate that CNN's annual revenue in 2020 from $1.8 billion, based on financial metrics, I don't think it's $1.8 billion. Well, they're not going to show it. They're EBITDA. I mean, the brand is a strong brand for the right, but it is going to be such a massive, massive headache to manage to move forward with it

But imagine the inventory of video content stuff that they have. And the infrastructure. But it's almost as if I wish I could. And it's almost like the leadership when we talk about the Democrats in Los Angeles and New York. It's like I wish I could just address their leadership and say, do your damn job. All these numbers, Tom, all the money, everything that is failing is let them know you're supposed to run a news network, not a propaganda mill. Profitably. Profitably.

profitably, but you know what it is? People are sick and tired of your bullshit. You've been exposed. Trump exposed you with Jim Acosta when he said you're fake news and you're not adjusting. You have to adjust. Think about the old school people, Pat, Bernard Shaw, Larry King, Ted Turner, Walter Cronkite. They had class. They had a message. They, they,

They were doing something good. It's not hard. Stop hiring propaganda freaking activists with teleprompters. Report the news. Yes, have different opinions and have people say their points. But it's like, you guys aren't journalists anymore. It's over. And then they're shocked. The world is like, wait, what the? Why are they failing? You guys know why they're failing. Because they suck.

They suck. That's why people are turning to podcasts. Guess what? Like this one where everybody has different opinions, but we're giving you facts. We're fact checking in real time. Me and Adam go at it all the time. Tom and Adam go at it. Me and Pat, we don't agree with everything. And that's, that's why this shit is taking over and people like CNN are losing and they will not adjust. That's the worst thing. The ship keeps sinking and they're like,

And they're like, bring on another captain. It doesn't matter. Your ship is going down and the market is speaking up. And that's it. Yeah, I, listen, I, if they can't save Scott Jennings, if Scott, if right now, I'm being serious. Yeah. If somebody wanted to destroy CNN, guess what? Get Scott Jennings to run for office or do something. Scott Jennings leaves CNN. It's over.

Somebody would buy them, but if you want a discount, here's how to get the discount. Say the company right now to buy is worth $1.5 billion. Yeah. You ready for the crazy strategy? One-time revenue or something, right? You ready for the crazy strategy? Here's what I would do. I would, if I take Scott Jennings, give him a five-year $25 million contract to a company. You paid him $25 million, okay? Then CNN's rating is going to drop 25%.

Couple the shows it's gonna drop 25% main shows gonna drop 25% Yeah, then that one and a half billion dollars now you can buy for 1.2 billion dollars You pay 25 million dollars to save 275 million dollars Step number one get Scott Jennings out of CNN step number two get yourself a 300 million dollar discount That's how I would do it Adam go for it. You know what show on CNN gets a million Viewers a night. Do you know what show none?

None. You're absolutely right. We're the only major network of the three news outlets between Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN that doesn't have one show that gets a million viewers a night. This podcast, this little homegrown podcast on Peabody Podcasts will likely get a million viewers, but not CNN. Their top-ranked show, I believe, is Anderson Cooper. You can fact-check this at somewhere around 700,000 viewers a

Maybe a little bit more. I think that would be a big night for him during the week, by the way. To put that into perspective, the top shows on Fox News, I think The Five gets almost 4 million viewers. I want to say Jesse Waters is hovering at 3, 3.5 viewers, 3.5 million viewers. Gutfeld, also 3.5 million viewers. Even on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow is getting almost 2 million viewers. Here's the biggest problem with CNN.

You got to pick a side. You know, everyone knows that Fox News is to the right. Everyone knows that. They claim to be fair and balanced. Okay. Everyone knows that MSNBC is on the left. They don't even hide it. Like, they're just like, if you have Trump derangement syndrome, come visit us here at MSNBC. The problem is news have gone so far from what Walter Cronkite once did.

and once basically stood for, that everything is so tribal now. So CNN is stuck in the middle. No, we're fair, we're balanced. No, we're anti-Trump. No, no, no. Now we're covering Trump favorably. They're beyond repair because they're not on one team.

The days of being fair and balanced are over. You need to pick a side. And unfortunately, they've already picked their side. And no one on the right trusts them. And people on the left don't trust them either anymore. But Adam, there has to be a reason why. Okay, I get the biases and Fox is right and CNN is left. But why is Fox...

strike like number one and kicking ass because yes, we know that they're conservative, but the reporting facts they'll go back and forth and they'll have their opinions CNN lies CNN is propaganda. Okay, CNN is has been exposed and there's no coming back bro.

Mind you, think about it. The Abby Phillips show, people are tuning in not to see Abby Phillips. Nobody gives a shit what she has to say. It's what Scott Jennings is going to do to that entire panel of delusional leftists. And that's what it is. Say what people want about Fox at

At least they're telling you how it is, and that's the reason that they're number one. CNN will purposely push some shit like propaganda, and they'll have all these activists from Jim Acosta, who's doing Substack, to Brian Stelter, who they fire. Dude, when I tell you they can't get out of their own way, you hire Brian Stelter back. What the hell are you doing? If you fire somebody, bro, let him go. He's the idiot.

You're mostly right, Vinny. You're just not all the way right. To act like Fox doesn't have propagandists or activists. I didn't say that, but are they telling facts? How are they number one, though? How are they number one? They're just less worse than CNN. But they all have opinion shows. And in my opinion, any opinion show should say Hannity's opinion, Ingram's opinion, Tucker's opinion.

Wolf Blitzer's opinion. So people aren't smart enough to basically decipher what's fact and what's opinion. Are you ready for this? Like the Russia collusion thing? CNN not only knew it was fake, they took it and they ran with it and they pushed it. All the lying with COVID and all that shit. You can't come back from that. We are not going to forget that shit. Put it

putting the death tracker up there like they were proud of it during COVID. It's like, no, bro. Fox doesn't do that. Fox never took a story like that that knew Hillary Clinton started and pushed that shit to divide us. They're never going to get that back. Again, you're mostly right, but you're also going to have a hard time convincing how much, almost a billion dollars that Fox News had to pay for pushing for Dominion. You're not there yet, Vinny. One of these days you'll be there. Stop.

You know what? I'm going to bust my butt, Pat, and I promise you for the new year, I'm going to try to get there. According to Adam, you're not getting there. One of these days. Let's put a period at the end of the sentence and move on. And it was this. Anderson Cooper makes $18 million a year.

$18 million a year, Anderson Cooper makes. And the CFO, who's going to be the CEO of all the cable nets, his name is Gunner. Gunner Wiedenfels is looking for ways to cut costs. So...

They have said, apparently they said on the 12th and I missed it, but they spoke to the Puck newsletter and they leaked, well, Anderson and News has an uncertain future at CNN given the $18 million contract cost. So guess what? He's either going to get bought out, called Take Your Medicine Now, you give him a payout, or they got to negotiate it. Because is Anderson Cooper at $18 million worth six Caitlin Collins at three? No. Nope. She's not even worth that.

Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.

I mean, I'm just saying economically speaking. And by the way, I'm upset on his birthday. There's rumors in media land that she's not as liberal as she portrays to be, that she's like more moderate. But she assumed this this political position on the number line of liberal versus conservative. And it has served her career well. But deep inside, she's a little bit more moderate.

So we will see. And when I say she's not worth the three, I'm talking about the economics of the moment. So you're saying she's making money on her show or not. But could could she be worth more than that to somebody? Maybe she ain't worth the food stamp. And at death row at CNN, I hear she's getting treated like, oh, snap, boot camp. Got to follow the sergeant's direction, Tom.

Or get your ass. I'll stop right there, guys. We watched Straight Outta Compton the other day. Stay focused, guys. Okay. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan meets Erdogan in Turkey on historic visit. This is according to France 24 story. Armenian Prime Minister Pashinyan met with Erdogan

to recap uh in Istanbul on Friday for an in-depth talks lasting over an hour at uh dolmabahad's Palace discussing the Armenian Turkey normalization process and a regional piece pashini's government described the visit as a historic step with both leaders addressing potential steps to be taken with the framework of the normalization process between Turkey and Armenia per Erdogan's office

Pashinyan posted on X about their in-depth exchange and reaffirmed Armenia's commitment to building peace and stability in our region. The leaders discussed Armenia's peace negotiations with Azerbaijan, with Erdogan, stressing the significance of the consensus reached in those talks. According to the office, relations remain strained, pay attention to this one, due to the World War II.

World War I era mass killings of Armenians, which Yerevan calls genocide, a term Turkey rejects, and Turkey's support for Azerbaijan and its conflict with Armenia. So this is the part where when you hear a story like this on what's going on with Armenia trying to have the meeting with Turkey. Great. So what's step number one? Have the meeting. What's step number two? How do you handle yourself in that meeting?

How do you negotiate? What leverages do you have? What insurance policies do you have? What ace do you have up your sleeve if it goes wrong? Who has your back? Does Russia have your back? Are you establishing relationships with people in the U.S. to get closer to them? Or because you are getting so close with everybody there, you're not, you're kind of worried about if you get too close to the U.S., Russia's not going to be happy because you're on the border with them.

Erdogan's not going to be happy. You have to kind of get stronger with the bricks, you know, but he's in a very interesting place. There are certain Armenians who watch Pashinyan and another man that's a sweet man. I think he was a journalist before of what he did before he became the PM.

and the level of strength to be able to do all the negotiations, the deals that is being done. When you go to Erdogan, imagine if all of a sudden Pashinyan comes out and says, well, look, in order for us to have peace, we have to all agree that the Armenian genocide never happened, and we have to call it a different word. Do you know what would happen if he does that? So imagine Pashinyan agrees to change the verbiage of a genocide never happened. Now, here's the thing. Who has leverage in this meeting between Erdogan and Pashinyan?

Erdogan has the leverage. Okay. Do you think, Tom, when Erdogan is sitting with Pashinyan, do you think Erdogan sits there and says, hey, what are the chances, Tom, do you think Erdogan would suggest, I think moving forward, you guys got to stop saying genocide, genocide, genocide. War, yes. Mass killings, yes. You got to stop saying genocide. You can't say that anymore. Do you think Erdogan is going to be resolved and strong about that phrase needing to be changed?

I think so, because they want to basically put that history behind them. They don't want to have like a grand admission of something right now, which sort of takes that history and, you know, it explodes again. You know, if I was president here in the United States, I've told you this before, we would have an Armenian genocide program.

I would recognize their contributions or recognize that.

That tension lives here because Turkey's got the largest military in the Middle East and like one of the top 10 militaries in the world. And they're strategically significant and they've had U.S. bases. So you've had all these U.S. presidents saying, oh, we probably shouldn't say the, you know, the G word with the Turks because we got all these bases and we needed these bases there, you know, especially the Air Force bases, because it was strategically significant territory.

in the Cold War versus Russia because of the geographic location of Turkey. So Erdogan's kind of playing those cards because for decades they've been able to get U.S. presidents not to push to say the G word.

And because they've been able to play the card, well, there's a strategic significance here. Why do you want to kick all my people in the teeth? Why do you want to do this? That happened so long ago. So it's so long ago. Can't we get past it? And can we just refer to it as part of the horror of World War I? Can we just say that Turkey and Armenia had a moment in World War I? It was just part of the horrors of World War I.

And I think that's what Erdogan is going to want. I don't think he's going to want to accept the word and therefore accept responsibility and therefore accept the narrative. This is going to sound weird. Do you think Pashinyan is as much of a true believer in the history of Armenia as Netanyahu is a true believer in Israel? I don't know enough about him to make an assessment. I don't know either. But let me tell you something.

If you're a proud Jew from Israel and you're seeing the support for Netanyahu increasing during this tension that they're having, do you like a guy that is Israel first? Do you like that Trump is America first? Is Pashinyan Armenia first? Is he Pashinyan first? I don't know what he is first. I don't know. But when you go into these rooms, like if I send you an insurance, we'd give you 20 appointments.

And I would send you into rooms and you go sit at the kitchen table with the husband and wife. Let's just say we knew they were qualified. They were ultra high net or whatever you want to call it. I would judge you on if you close the deals or not. I would say, nah, he's not a closer. Then I would try Tom. I'm like, no, Tom closes. Moving forward, I'm going to send Tom in those meetings.

When we send Trump in meetings, do you think Trump's a closer? A thousand percent. I don't know if Pashinyan's a closer. Maybe he is. Maybe he's not. We know Erdogan's a closer. Oh, yeah. You don't have to like him. You think he's Turkey first? Of course. He's 100% Turkey first. So to me, I don't know if Pashinyan has the same swagger when he walks in. Somebody may say, well, they're small, though. Israel is small.

Netanyahu acts big. He built some strong alliances. Can Pashinyan do that? Does Armenia need a leader like that? Maybe, maybe not. Anyways, gang, as usual, it's been great hanging out with you guys. We will most likely... By the way, in the room we're in right now, the AC works so good here. Oh, Rob doesn't look like he's sweating. It's freaking... We're almost freezing. I asked Rob, can you guys grab me a jacket because of how freaking cold it is in here. Andres is naked. I don't know if they can even see. He's not even wearing any clothes.

But anyways, guys, it is so cold here that through Zoom, Adam is even cold. That's how cold it is if you look at Adam right there. That's right, Adam. Anyways, all right, gang, it's been great. We were doing so well. Listen, I hope you know this, how much we appreciate you. And we know without you, it's just the four of us talking. But you know what's crazy about this?

Even if the camera's not on, if you ever see us going to dinner without any cameras on, we have just as much fun with the camera on. Uh,

versus camera off, it's the same exact energy when we're together. This is just how we are. We're always talking, debating, talking shit, laughing. It's the same culture that we have, but wouldn't happen what we've been able to do here without you. We want you to know whether you agree with us, disagree with us. We get people that get on that can't stand us. We get people that get on that like what we have to say, and we get people get on that want to see different perspective. Either way, we appreciate every single one of you guys. We're grateful for you. God bless. Have a great day. We'll do it again on Thursday. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.