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Valerie Sanderson: 特朗普总统计划向洛杉矶部署700名海军陆战队,以应对持续的抗议活动,这一举动引发了争议。同时,俄罗斯和乌克兰之间再次进行囚犯交换,为紧张局势带来一丝缓和的希望。在本期播客中,我们将深入探讨这些事件,并听取相关人士的观点。 Rob Bonta: 作为加利福尼亚州的检察长,我与州长Gavin Newsom合作,正在起诉特朗普总统,要求法院撤销总统将加州国民警卫队联邦化的非法行为。我认为特朗普政府无视了地方执法的专业知识和指导,践踏了我们州的自主权,这是不能接受的。 Donald Trump: 加州州长让数百万人涌入,导致医院、教育系统和警察不堪重负。我派军队进去是帮他,否则加州会面临前所未有的问题。我认为我采取的行动是必要的,是为了维护法律和秩序,保护加州居民的安全。 John Sudworth: 我在洛杉矶报道抗议活动,抗议的焦点之一是拘留中心。目前情况相对平静,但警方已采取行动驱散示威者。抗议者在游行,呼吁释放被拘留的移民,但没有出现周末的暴力场面。洛杉矶已从外地调来增援警力,试图控制局势。如果海军陆战队真的部署,对于洛杉矶市的当局来说,这将进一步加剧局势。这实际上是州权利之争,以及加州在决定如何处理麻烦和抗议方面的自主权之争。特朗普政府正因部署国民警卫队一事被起诉,他们认为特朗普总统用来部署国民警卫队的法律被误解了,该法律只允许在发生叛乱时部署,且需要州长的同意。法庭辩论的焦点在于是否需要加州州长Gavin Newsom的同意,因为他显然不同意,并认为现有的执法力量足以应对局势。

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President Trump's decision to deploy marines to Los Angeles during protests against his immigration policies sparks a legal battle with California's governor. The situation is described as a conflict between state rights and federal authority, with ongoing legal challenges questioning the president's authority to deploy the National Guard without the governor's consent.
  • Deployment of up to 700 marines to Los Angeles
  • California sues Trump for deploying National Guard without permission
  • Legal challenge focuses on interpretation of legislation regarding presidential authority in cases of insurrection

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This is the Global News Podcast from the BBC World Service. I'm Valerie Sanderson and in the early hours of Tuesday the 10th of June, these are our main stories. President Trump says he'll deploy up to 700 marines to Los Angeles on the fourth day of protests. Another prisoner swap gets underway between Russia and Ukraine after last week's talks in Istanbul.

Also in this podcast... I absolutely have been used for biological experimentation. I have no doubt in my mind about that. But yeah, I'm extremely satisfied and I'm just happy to be a part of this and be able to help other people. We hear from a man with a microchip implanted into his brain.

Demonstrations are underway in Los Angeles for the fourth day running, as we're getting reports that the Pentagon is deploying hundreds of Marines to the city, where people have been protesting against President Donald Trump's immigration and deportation policies. The latest move follows Mr Trump's controversial decision to send the National Guard to defend federal buildings in the city.

The president is now being sued for sending in the military without the permission of the state's Democratic governor. Here's California's attorney, General Rob Bonta. I, in partnership with Governor Gavin Newsom, are suing President Trump and asking the court to set aside the president's unlawful action federalizing the California National Guard.

With this order, Trump and Hegseth ignored law enforcement's expertise and guidance and trampled over our state's, California's sovereignty. Speaking at the White House, President Trump criticized California's governor, Gavin Newsom, and defended his deployment of the National Guard. He's let people come in by the millions who are overrunning your hospitals, your education system, and your police. Your police are being overrun. Look at what's happened.

He should only be happy I sent in the military because if I didn't send him in, you would have had a problem there, the likes of which we haven't seen in a long time. I got the latest from our senior North America correspondent, John Sudworth, who's in Los Angeles. We've been watching some of the protesters, Valerie, outside the detention centre, which has been one of the focal points for the protests.

over the past few days. This is a detention centre where some of the immigrants arrested in those workplace raids have been brought to. Things are generally still fairly peaceful, certainly slightly less violent and intense than yesterday. There have been some instances where the police have moved the protesters down the road, cleared junctions.

But so far, the protesters have been marching, they've been noisy, they've been waving banners and signs calling for the release of those immigrants who've been detained. But as yet, no repeats of the scenes we saw over the weekend with the use of tear gas and rubber bullets. But there are huge numbers of police here. This city has brought in reinforcements from outside of Los Angeles County, clearly with the intent of getting on top of the violence before it's able to really sort of escalate

And so far, at least, although it's early here, of course, only just gone three o'clock in the afternoon, so far it seems to be having some success. And we're now, of course, getting these reports that the Pentagon is deploying hundreds of marines to the city. Yes, so conflicting reports about that. Some news sources have suggested that.

that they are being deployed. What we know for certain, of course, is that the Defence Secretary had said a couple of days ago that Marines at a base in California were being put on standby in preparedness that they might need to be deployed. And it's unclear whether those news reports that we're seeing here over the past couple of hours suggesting that they may now indeed be on their way are true or not.

So very, very fluid. If that were to be the case, then of course for the authorities in this city, the mayor, as well as the governor of the state, that would be seen as an even further escalation.

would undoubtedly see that as compounding the issue already, what you've been reporting, that this is essentially now a battle between state rights as they see it and California's autonomy in deciding how to deal with trouble and protest.

And questions over the extent of executive authority in the White House. Yes, because, of course, they're already suing the Trump administration over this, aren't they? They are. So that legal action was launched today. They are essentially saying that the piece of legislation that President Trump has used to deploy the National Guard has been...

misinterpreted. Essentially, it does not give him the authority that it claims it does. It suggests, indeed, that in cases of insurrection and rebellion, he would have that right. But even then, it would need to be done, according to the wording of the legislation...

through the state governor. So I think the argument in court will all be focused on what that particular phrase means. Does it need the consent of Gavin Newsom as governor of California or not? Because clearly he does not consent. He does not think this is a good idea. He thinks that the law enforcement they have already in this city and in this state is sufficient to deal with what is happening, which he would argue falls a long, long way short of rebellion or insurrection.

John Sudworth in Los Angeles. Ukraine's President Zelensky says Russia unleashed another major aerial assault overnight on Sunday, deploying nearly 500 missiles and drones. The Ukrainian Air Force says the Dubno airbase in the country's western region of Rivne was one of the main targets.

Russia's defence ministry said it was in retaliation for Ukrainian attacks on its own air bases. Yet, in the midst of what looks like an escalation of violence, a multi-stage prisoner exchange has begun, with the first group consisting of wounded soldiers and military personnel under 25 years of age taking place on the border with Belarus.

Some of those freed celebrated as they crossed back into Ukraine. Our correspondent Paul Adams spoke to the families of some of the released prisoners.

When a coach bearing the newly released prisoners drew up and the doors opened, a crowd of anxious women surged forward, many of them carrying pictures of missing husbands, brothers and sons. It seemed very few had come here expecting to be reunited. Most just wanted information. Their faces were not full of joy, but etched with deep, prolonged anxiety. Many have waited years for news.

We got only fleeting glimpses of the POWs as they were whisked through the crowd and into a nearby building. They were all young, between 18 and 24. Most had shaved heads and looked thin. We were not allowed to ask them about their treatment, but Petro Yatsenko, a government official who deals with prisoners of war, said it had not been good.

Paul Adams.

Elon Musk makes headlines almost daily, but arguably one of his most ambitious ventures flies under the radar. That's Neuralink, the company developing brain-computer interfaces, technology that sounds like science fiction but is rapidly becoming reality, which involves implanting microchips directly into people's brains. 18 months ago, the project made headlines when a man aged around 30 from Arizona was the first person to have one of those chips inserted.

Noland Arbol was paralysed from the neck down after a swimming accident nine years ago. He's been speaking to the BBC's Evan Davis about his experience with Neuralink.

One of my buddies from college called me up a little bit too tipsy at 10 a.m. on a Wednesday morning and said, do you want to get a chip in your brain? And I was like, well, got nothing better going on. So he helped me apply over the phone. Four months after I applied, I was getting brain surgery. Do you understand what they did? I mean, putting a chip in a brain is a sort of sci-fi film kind of thing to do. Yeah, so they did what's called a...

craniotomy or craniotomy they cut a hole in my skull and then had the surgical robot they built implant 64 threads with 16 electrodes on each thread into my motor cortex on my left side of my brain specifically correlating to like my right hand movement and essentially what is happening is the uh

These electrodes are picking up signals from the neurons in my brain as I'm firing, as I'm trying to move my right hand. Right. So it all comes down to the fact that although your brain can't move your arm, you can think I'm trying to move my arm here in the same way you did before you lost the use of the arm.

Yep. All the neurons are still firing. They're all kicking up there. It's just that there's a break in my spinal cord, so the signals just don't get through. It's a lot like controlling a mouse. That's probably one of the best ways to put it. That's it for now. I can control a mouse, but also...

connect my computer to different devices, a phone or a gaming console, and use the same inputs that I was getting my computer to output things on a console or on my phone.

Just out of interest, I mean, your speech has not been affected by the injury. And what is the advantage of this approach to just giving you speech control over a computer? Up, down, left, click this, do that. I had speech control on a computer before Neuralink. Mac, I used that for maybe a couple of years before Neuralink.

And it's just not very good. I can navigate around a computer. I can do things. But at a very, very lower proficiency than I can with Neuralink, it's not very good. So to cut to the chase here, you're a satisfied customer at the moment of Neuralink. You're not feeling like I've been used here for biological experimentation. I mean, your feeling has helped.

Oh, no, I absolutely have been used for biological experimentation. I have no doubt in my mind about that. But yeah, I'm extremely satisfied. I have been very, very pleased with what they've done, with what they're doing, the direction they're going. And I'm just happy to be a part of this and be able to help other people. Nolan Darbo talking there to Evan Davis.

The Ocean Conference is taking place in Nice in the south of France, bringing together 56 heads of state and government. The aim is to protect the deepest oceans and to implement the High Seas Treaty, which was adopted by UN member states two years ago. Some countries have still not ratified the agreement and no US delegation is attending the conference. Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission, said the EU would also introduce its first ever Ocean Pact.

Jacques Cousteau once said, the sea, the great unifier, is man's only hope. Now, as never before, we are all in the same boat. But by working together, we can make it happen to have a good future of the ocean. It's in our hands. I heard more about the High Seas Treaty from our climate and science correspondent, Esme Stallard, who's in Nice.

A few years ago, countries agreed 30% of the land and ocean needs to be protected. Now, obviously, in your own national waters, that's easier said than done. But for the high seas or international waters, there is no one country that controls those. So, the High Seas Treaty was developed. And in that, countries agreed

agree that they would put 30% of the oceans, the international waters, into marine protected areas by 2030. Now, that's all well and good, but you need 60 countries to ratify that for it to come into force. Now, coming into this conference, as of last week, there was only 32 countries that had ratified that. But President Macron, who is co-hosting with Costa Rica, shared some positive news this morning that 15 more have signed overnight. And in fact, we're hearing from ministers here. They're a

I'm sat outside the plenary here and we're expecting to hear that more might have signed up. So we are creeping up to those 60 at the moment. So is it considered a success so far? And what more is expected from the talks that are ongoing this week? Well, there are many issues on the table. As I mentioned, deep sea mining, but also plastic pollution, overfishing is another one, climate change. They're not all going to be solved in this week. But the UN very publicly has said the High Seas Treaty is one of their key aims.

And I think for the other issues around bottom trawling and deep sea mining, what countries will want to see is at least some level of agreement in terms of direction. So for those marine protected areas, does that mean we try and stop the worst types of fishing in those areas? Does that mean we stop deep sea exploitation? So I think having some consensus on what the future of that might look like.

A referendum in Italy to ease citizenship rules and improve the protection of workers' rights has been declared invalid. After two days of voting, turnout was about 30%, well short of the 50% threshold required to make the vote binding. It's a win for the right-wing government of Prime Minister Giorgio Maloney, who'd urged people to boycott the vote, saying they should go to the beach rather than the polling station. Our correspondent in Rome, Sarah Rainsford, gave us this update.

In the end, it was around 30% of whom 64% voted yes for this change and for the other questions on the ballot paper, which were about labour rights. I mean, I was in a polling station and that seems about right. But basically, there was a government boycott. The government didn't even want to talk about this issue and they certainly didn't want to change the rules. And in the end, the government essentially won. The vote would certainly have brought Italy more in line with the majority of EU countries. But I think the way it was

argued here, although there wasn't a huge amount of argument about it, was that the rules were fine as they were. We did eventually hear from the Prime Minister, Giorgia Meloni, who came out last week and said that the law on citizenship right now was excellent, she said, and it did not need to be changed.

But for those who were affected and for the left-wing groups and the trade unions and the activists who were pushing this, they had multiple reasons for it. One of them was the sort of human version, which is that there are many people who were born to foreign nationals in Italy and many years later still are not citizens. So people who were born and lived their entire lives in Italy who don't qualify for citizenship. And this was...

Sarah Rainsford.

Still to come on this podcast. What is the best way to count monkeys? We hear why Sri Lanka may be making a wild miscalculation. The atmosphere of Mexico Beach is very quiet and slow, and that's a good thing.

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Again, genesight.com for more information and to move forward on your journey to mental wellness. China's Vice Premier, Haley Feng, has held a brief meeting in London for a second round of talks with U.S. officials aimed at ending the ongoing trade war between the world's two biggest economies. More from our Asia-Pacific editor, Celia Hatton.

The latest round of negotiations comes as both the U.S. and China are feeling the pinch from tariffs and restrictions they've imposed on one another. Fresh data out today shows that China's export growth slowed to a three-month low in May, mostly due to existing U.S. tariffs. American companies are hoping Beijing will release the rare earth metals they need to manufacture a host of items, including most cars.

Beijing, which has a monopoly on the crucial rare earth sector, restricted exports to the U.S., but recently eased shipments to the EU and Japan. It's unclear whether China will give the U.S. the same treatment.

President Trump's Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick is part of the U.S. delegation. He's in charge of export controls on advanced computer chips, suggesting restrictions on their sale in China will likely be raised during the meeting. Celia Hatton.

President Donald Trump's sweeping new travel ban has come into force, blocking entry to the US for citizens from 12 countries, including Haiti. More than a million people of Haitian descent live in the United States. So what could the ban mean for them and for their relatives still in Haiti, many of whom are desperate to escape escalating gang violence in the country?

Jacqueline Charles is the Haiti correspondent for the Miami Herald, and she's been speaking to the BBC's Rebecca Kesby. The concern is that this is going to separate families. I mean, Haiti hasn't had regular visa processing since before COVID.

The COVID epidemic that slowed things down, the embassy was closed, it was opened, they created a backlog, and then the security situation made things worse. So you actually have people in Haiti who have been waiting now for several years, and the first available appointments weren't even available until 2026. We know clearly with this travel ban is that all of that processing has now been suspended.

Meanwhile, today, what we are waiting to see is whether or not people with valid visas that were issued before the 8th of June, whether or not they will be allowed in. There is a flight that's scheduled to land this afternoon from Haiti. We have teams that are out both

both in Haiti and here, checking to see whether or not individuals will be denied entry. The State Department has made it very clear they are not canceling visas, but it's going to be up to the Department of Homeland Security to determine whether somebody will be allowed in or out.

The reality is, is that you have families that have already separated where one parent came to the United States, you know, and they're here, they're with their kids. They may even have legal residency and maybe their kids do or their kids don't. Or it's a mixed, you know, immigration family. But the other parent is in Haiti and they come back and forth regularly despite the difficulties of doing that. Also with commerce.

You know, Haiti is so dependent on the United States for trading and that the idea that Haitians would be, you know, prevented from freely being able to access the U.S. has, you know, potentially detrimental effects, especially on the economy. Haiti will basically be isolated. Remember that the FAA has a ban on U.S. commercial airlines into Port-au-Prince. There is only one regular airline. It's a charter plane where you can access the two countries. Hmm.

And what authorities there are in Haiti have been appealing for some time for the US authorities to do more to stop the smuggling of arms and weapons from the States into Haiti to the gangs. Exactly. So Haitians feel that they are being punished.

with a problem where the U.S. is not completely immune from, that the guns are coming from Florida. That's what the gangs are using to create this violence and a humanitarian disaster. Over 5 million people, almost half the population today that's going hungry. And this is a transitional government that was put in place by the United States. It's a police force that the United States heavily funds. So it's a lot of issues. Jacqueline Charles speaking to Rebecca Kesby.

Extreme heat can have a huge impact on people's lives and in recent years southern Europe has been hit by severe heat waves. Now the Spanish city of Seville has carried out a pilot scheme aimed at naming heat waves in order to raise awareness about them. The scheme uses an algorithm that forecasts heat waves and categorises them based on how damaging they might be. Ashley Sharma reports from Seville.

In the summer, this city is one of the hottest in Spain and this has an impact on many local businesses, especially in tourism. Daniel gathers his group of 12 international tourists.

They're about to go on a three-hour bicycle tour of the city. We've been on two tours and the guides even say that the place shuts down in July and August. They were telling us that, saying there's nothing open, there's no point coming, it's 45 degrees.

The pilot scheme, the first of its kind, was called Prometeo. By the time it ended last year, several severe heat waves had been identified and named in Seville. My name is Adriana Llanos and I'm the manager of Sea by Bike. So during wintertime and summertime, we focus on doing office work because we don't have many bookings. And during high season, as spring and fall...

We are usually only focused on tours because we have lots and lots of customers. So during summertime, what we do is changing our tours. So instead of starting the tour at 2.30, we start at 9 a.m. For us, it would be very useful to name the heat waves. That would mean that we are talking more about the heat waves. That way we could organize easier the changes we have to do and never cancel. We always stay in the shade. I know every single shade in town.

Really?

Heatwaves don't have names unlike storms or hurricanes, which are also categorised. But for all natural weather phenomena, they can have the greatest impact on people's lives, on overall public health and the local economy. The algorithm was established by the Atlantic Council and worked upon in the city by the University of Seville in cooperation with the local government. Jorge Gastelamundi is the Senior Director of the Atlantic Council's Climate Resilience Centre.

In Seville, people usually assume, you know, I'm used to hot, this is nothing new. But the fact that they were named alerted them that this was something probably different to what they were used to. We also found that women were more attuned to the fact that they needed to take action similar to more wealthy neighborhoods, as well as the elderly.

Were there any aspects of the project which you looked at afterwards, which you realise really could serve companies or local economies in some way? We realised that this same algorithm that connects all these different factors could be used for the insurance sector because they need triggers. They need to understand when they're insuring a particular route or service that they will have the right data to understand when they need to pay or when they don't need to pay. ♪

Heat waves are silent killers. They catch out the vulnerable and quietly devastate the economy through their impact on health. Finding ways to combat them, be it by naming them or categorising them, could be one answer to deal with the future in which our urban centres become even hotter. That report by Ashi Sharma. Sri Lanka is famous for its wildlife, with humans sharing the island with noisy creatures like this.

Well, that's the sound of the peacock and this. And that's the top macaque monkey. But for those working in agriculture in Sri Lanka, wild animals can cause problems as they ruin their crops. The authorities conducted a nationwide survey in March of wildlife that destroys crops. But now the government is withholding the results of the study, saying the data collected by some farmers appears to be unrealistic.

A South Asia regional editor, Anbalasan Ethirajan, told us more. According to the deputy environment minister, some of the figures were unbelievable, unrealistic. What they did in mid-March was, it was not very scientific. They gave a small questionnaire printed in Sinhala and Tamil languages and

And given them five minutes time, get out of the house, go near the farm or next to a garden, look around, see how many monkeys are there, peacocks are there, just note it down and hand it over. But there was a lot of criticism because this was not very methodical.

and how far you can really trust this survey. But the government accepted it was not very scientific, but this was the most cost-effective way, and getting the entire communities involved in this whole project, because nearly one-third of the Sri Lankan population, about 8 million people, are involved in agriculture. And these are a huge problem, these like peacocks,

wild boars and squirrels and monkeys are a huge problem. But this particular survey focused only on animals which you can find during the daytime. That means elephants, wild boars and porcupines are not included.

So now the government says they're going to reassess the whole survey and then come out with a decision so that they can prepare a national plan on how to tackle the problem of increasing these animals coming and eating agricultural products. So how did they know the figures were so wrong? Were people talking about millions of monkeys and peacocks and boars? Because in some areas where the numbers are very high, you can't even estimate that so many monkeys were there.

So the officials believe that probably the villagers or the farmers exaggerated the numbers so that there'll be more attention to their own area. So this has become turning into a tragic comedy where they were expecting some positive results, but then it ended up people coming out with some inflated figures and that is what is throwing them back. Sri Lanka is going through a difficult economic situation, so they don't have enough money to conduct an extensive survey at this point.

So they thought by involving the communities, they can get them interested in the subject, number one. Number two, it doesn't cost them any money except for printing these questionnaires and giving it to them. So now they're trying to work out how best they can use the numbers because the whole nation participated. It was like an event for five minutes. Everyone was so excited, kids, families. But if the numbers are wrong, then it is. But the numbers are wrong. So that's why a lot of people like opposition groups are saying it's a total waste of money and time.

And finally, one of Britain's most successful thriller writers, Frederick Forsyth, has died following a brief illness. He was 86. He's thought to have sold more than 70 million copies of books such as The Day of the Jackal, The Odessa File and The Fourth Protocol. Peter Hyatt looks back at his life. Frederick Forsyth was a journalist for the Reuters news agency in Paris and then the BBC before turning his hand to thriller writing.

He left the BBC when he said it wanted to stop him covering the Biafran war in Nigeria, when hundreds of thousands of people died. He remained in Biafra and went freelance. But he was broke and staying with a friend in London when he wrote up an idea he'd had in his Paris reporting days about an attempt to kill President Charles de Gaulle. In desperation, the OAS terrorists hired a professional killer. His codename? The Jackal.

This is a once-in-a-lifetime job. Whoever does it can never work again. How much do you want? Half a million. What? In cash. I'd like to know how you expect us to find half a million dollars so quickly. Written in 35 days on a bullet-scarred typewriter, The Day of the Jackal became a bestseller and a hit movie. It set the template for a series of future successes, based in part on his own life experiences and the techniques he'd picked up as a reporter. His forensic attention to detail meant they often read like journalistic reconstructions, except with more sex.

In a later autobiography, he revealed what many of his readers had long suspected, that he'd had a sideline working for British intelligence, though he insisted he never took a penny for it. Peter Hyatt on the author Frederick Forsyth, who's died at the age of 86.

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