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Scaling with Sanity: The Anti-Burnout Blueprint from Matt Gray | #Success - Ep. 35

2025/5/14
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Matt Gray: 我认为企业家、创始人和企业主是同义词。创始人是指经营自己热爱的事业并寻求扩展的人。越来越多的创始人正在与创作者经济融合,个人品牌变得越来越重要。人们先关注人,然后才关注品牌。拥有个人品牌(我称之为创始人主导的品牌)可以确保人们真正了解你所建立的故事,并追随你的旅程,这会使品牌更具影响力,并让你更快地发展。作为创始人,从第一天起就应该考虑建立自己的受众。 Russell Brunson: 我认为Matt的观点很有道理。10年前,当我在谈论个人品牌时,人们并不理解。但现在,个人品牌是免费的媒体、杠杆和品牌建设方式,可以使一切变得更容易。当ClickFunnels与竞争对手竞争时,我能够利用我的声音和品牌来影响市场,而他们没有这种能力。拥有个人品牌可以让你在市场变化时快速调整叙事。

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What if you could build a thriving business, grow a massive audience, and still have the freedom to live life on your terms?

In this episode of The Russell Brunson Show, I sit down with Matt Gray, an incredible entrepreneur and founder who’s done just that. After exiting his first company, building HERB into a 14-million-person media brand, and now leading Founder OS, Matt has figured out how to scale without stress, attract high-level talent, and turn content into consistent growth.

If you’re an entrepreneur or creator trying to build a business and a life you love, this conversation is packed with frameworks and mindset shifts that can help you get there.

Key Highlights:

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How Matt turns one long-form video into 30+ pieces of content across platforms

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The structure behind his organic content engine that brings in 12,000+ leads per month

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Why he avoids selling directly on social and what he does instead to convert cold traffic

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The systems and team setup that keep his business running while he travels the world

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How he overcame burnout, quit smoking and drinking, and rebuilt his health and energy

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What a founder-led brand really is and why it’s the key to long-term growth

We also go deep into personal branding, content strategy, hiring, time freedom, and the hidden cost of sedating stress instead of solving it. Matt even shares his book-writing process, his thoughts on founder identity, and what it really takes to build something that lasts.

This one’s not just about marketing and business. It’s about building a company that actually fits your life.

Let’s dive in!

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