Amy Poehler
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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's... Because they're naked? Well, it's like the 1800th time you say, on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there, I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. You guys, we've got the wonderful Amy Poehler, who we've been talking about using on here for a long time because she's so great and she's such a part of

comedy, obviously SNL, but just comedy in general. I think she's as good as anybody sketch player in the last, I'm going to say 70 years. She's up there with anybody. That's a wide net. Men and women. I don't want to go Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, Gilda Radner, but I can also go Sid Caesar, Peter Sellers. She's very talented. She writes, she directs.

She sings and she's a heck of a nice person. She has a new podcast and she's going to talk about that. We're going to talk about her tour with Tina Fey. We won't talk as much about her unbelievably funny movies and TV shows because of the sag strike, which is happening as we speak. We can't mention that. So if don't get mad at us,

We love to hear about that stuff. No offense or nothing, but you just mentioned it. I know I can just mention, but that's it. You can mention that you're not supposed to mention. I didn't say which things though. I don't think we can say what they are. Oh, certain things we can't mention. I can say the word TV. That's all I can say. Okay. I could say something like I went bowling and I got a strike.

I wouldn't. Is that okay? I wouldn't. Yeah, I don't want any trouble. It's a game show. That's really, you're walking a thin line. There's our game show. Can you say it or not? What's going to get you canceled? That should be one. No, the contestants are already canceled and they have to fight their way out of being canceled. Oh, that's good. That is a good game show. Uncanceled.

But Amy Poehler is, I'm going to say it 1940 style. She's a kick in the pants. Real kick in the pants. She's a natural performer. She's great in movies, great film actor. I don't know. She may be one of those. I might have to say, hmm, what can't she do? That's very true. We'll find out. I know what we can't say. Anyway. But we can say Amy Poehler, thank goodness. That's not outlawed. All right. Here she is, guys.

Amy Poehler. Guys, can you hear me okay? We can hear you and see you. I love your glasses. Aw, thanks. Look at those. They're cool, yeah. They're kind of 60s or something, something hip. Yeah, I get them off at Amazon. Mm-hmm. Is that right?

Is that now I got to I got to use my reader, my readers, my cheaters. Got your cheaters. Give me them cheaters. Look at Dana. Watch him go. Oh, would this change the vibe of the interview? It makes you it makes you feel more like conservative, like you're going to drop some politics. Really? Sunglasses? Well, yeah. Interesting. Hmm.

Would you agree, David? Yeah, I think there's a vibe. Are you guys forming an alliance? Yeah, we are. It's a little early, but I get it. You overlapped or did you overlap? I wish. No. I mean, but David hosted. Oh, yeah, that's right. Wait, can we we can talk about SNL, right? Yeah, yeah. Because we're not. It's already been on. But Amy did a funny one. I just thought of this, Amy.

Oh, you were my stunt double. Yes. We did a sketch where I played David's stunt double because we could probably be brother and sister. Like we have similar features. So I played your stunt double. And then that's all I remember of the premise. No, I think it was someone played the rock and I was like the rocks buddy in a buddy comedy. And then when we got to like climbing on a building, they brought in crazy.

Chris, and I think Chris, and that was you, which I thought would be a boy. And it was you. And you're like, hey, we're going to do this. We're all good. And I'm like, and Seth, I think, was the director. I'm just remembering as I go. And I'm like, hey, is it weird that I'm a guy? And he's like, no, it's all equal. And it's just stunt people. And I'm like, right. And I'm not

And then when she gets on, she goes, oh no, rock. It's so scary. I'm like, I don't think she should talk if she's my, you just keep, you keep like crying and acting like you're me. And I'm like, that's not what I'd say. And no one has any problem with it. Nope.

And I think when I put on that wig and I think we looked a lot alike. It was pretty close. Yeah, it was pretty close. I'm going to say... Yeah, Dana, you blew it. You missed out. British, Irish, Scandinavian, German. I wish. French. I wish. British, Irish, all the way. Right. Mostly Irish. Mostly Irish. My brother...

lives in Sweden. So sometimes I, people assume there's some Scandinavian, but no, none that we can find. Lots of Norway, lots of Scottish and lots of Irish. I'm British American and Southwest. I'm airlines. Have you guys done the, have you done the 23 and B? Have you done any of that stuff?

Terrified. My son did, and he had a disproportionate amount of Neanderthal. So I don't know. Maybe that explains something. I don't know. He's half Neanderthal. And my wife's half Dutch. There was no Dutch. No, no. His grandfather was 100% Dutch. And there's no Dutch. And a lot of cavemen. Weird.

Anyway, welcome. We're going to do this for the rest of the podcast. It's about genealogy today with our expert, Dr. Sheila. Oh my gosh, that's right. I'm here to promote my podcast. Thank you for reminding me. Do not forget about this. I listen to it. And it's one of those things you go like, I...

God, what a great thing to do right now. It's so fun. Because everyone's in therapy. Our therapists, we have a company that we love, a sponsor that does online therapy. So therapy is big. I listened to the Chris Parnell and Agastar. It was hysterical. It's really funny. And they're so easy. It's better than this podcast. Put it that way. If you're listening to this podcast,

Switch over. It's not a competition, but they're nice. They're like 22, 25 minutes. Amy plays megalomaniacal. But with so many... Because I was in therapy for five years. I still...

see or talk to a therapist. Yeah, you're not done. You're capturing a rhythm and a thing, especially in that every time someone says something, you just ask them another question, kind of. So that makes me feel sad. And sad is feeling bad about myself and feeling bad about myself. They do their own therapy, basically. So anyway, that's all I have to say. But when you talk about it,

promote it or just say why you're doing it. Well, it's super fun. We did it during the strike and we just improvised with a bunch of our buddies like Anna and Chris and a bunch of SNL people are on it. Rachel Dratch, Paula Pell, Tina Fey. We have like couples, people that are actual couples in real life and people that like are like

comedy partners like Abby and Alana from Broad City. We have all these different people come in and I play a therapist named Dr. Sheila and it has to be said in the form of a question because she's not a doctor. And it's just that fun game where I'm bad at my job and they have something they want to work out and we just improvise and cut it down. And it's just been a blast. Like it's been very creatively fun because it's been a minute since I've

I don't know, gotten to play a character. The improv bones are rusty. I mean, the one I heard, and it was probably the first one, but I don't know if it said who it was. So I know your voice, your voice is very unique and distinctive, but who was the first couple that had the mom problem?

Ah, that was out today. And that is the three great Chicago improvisers, Pete Gross, Gene Villipeak, and Stephanie Ware. And that is, that was, the premise of that is super fun is basically a couple comes in and they're like, what's the problem? He's like, I don't know what the problem is. And the wife is like, his mom is really meddling in our relationship. So, yeah.

I, Dr. Sheila encourages her to talk about how much she hates her mother-in-law. And then we reveal that she's been hiding under a pile of blankets the whole time. And those three, yeah, those three performers are just like expert improvisers. And yeah. You know, being, I've done a little improv, but I don't really do it. And it was mostly because it was so hard. And when you hear,

It's so smooth like that. I guess there's editing, but I was thinking it sounds so conversational that I was thinking, where are they cutting? Because it's just boom, boom, boom, boom. And in so many throwaway lines that are just like, and he's like, well, I eat breakfast with my mom. She comes over the morning and makes me my cereal. And

And does that bother you? And the wife's like, well, I do sleep in. You know, I usually get up at 9, 9.30, 10, 10.30. That's such a funny answer. 9, 9.30, 10, 10.30. But there's so many little texture jokes like that that keep it going aside from the overall feel that is a funny idea of who's the queen of the house. And he suggests that his mom could be co-mom of their baby's

I think is that what they call it? The laugh points just sneak up on you because the rhythm you're using for the therapy is so accurate. There's a, there's a kind of a, it's almost like a dialect in a way. Yeah. I think it's really, I love therapy too, Dana. I love it. I revere it and I'm in a lot of it and I'm, I love watching couples therapy and listening to couples therapy too. I'm always fascinated by how vulnerable people will be. Um,

um, publicly, like it's like, whoa, I can't believe they're sharing this with the whole world, but I could listen to it forever. So, and I love podcasts, by the way, love your podcast. I've listened to almost every episode, you know, probably every single person on the pod. That's crazy. So great. Uh, that I get getting a chance to do it. I'm so grateful you made my day. I love it. And you know, we all, we are SNL, like you've said many times is kind of the

It's like you were in very specific, like special forces and you all just want to kind of share stories about the nightmares that you continue to have about it. 20 years. It's all poor, poor, rich people. It is funny. We're like special ops. We say war and then people say, don't say that. So we changed it. You're right. I should say that. We changed it to SWAT team. I said it once here. It's like the Marine and I, and I backed off of it in 10 seconds. I said, please don't write me any letters. Cause it's fun to say that.

I did not mean to equivocate it in that way. I will just say if someone is unknown, maybe in an improv group like yourself and is suddenly on national TV and then we all as an audience, we, oh, what's her name? Amy Poehler. Oh, she's getting really good. It's like a reality show. Oh, she's really confident.

now she's right. You know, so opinions. Yeah. Lots of opinions. Yeah. Message boards. Like I started when message boards came out. So it wasn't, it wasn't, um, there wasn't any Twitter or anything yet, but it was these message boards. It used to spring up like the next day. And I'll,

So I started around when I, 2001 TiVo, remember TiVo? TiVo came into play. So it was like, Ooh, I could fast forward SNL for the first time. Like that was. Yeah.

What a gift. What a million dollar idea. I'm not so sure that's a good thing, Amy. No, I've talked to TiVo. We'd rather have them to like watch the show as opposed to... I mean, I'll go for a pause, but that's... You record it and then you like never really watch it. You know Rosetta Stone, the most trusted language learning program? Oh, yeah. If you want to learn a new language, which no time like the present, it's always fun to learn when you get older.

I know. And it's not learning a language when you're older, you know, over the age of 20 is difficult. You know, I mean, all the high school Spanish I took grade school Spanish, you know, all I can say is Ola and hasta luego. So it goes out of your head. So now you have Rosetta Stone, David, tell them about it. Well, Dana, you know, more than anyone trusted expert for 30 years with millions of users in 25 languages. Uh, I mean, my gosh, uh,

They have Spanish, French, Italian, German. I don't think you can throw them a curveball. I think they're going to know. What don't they have? The language you want. Yeah. And immerses you in many ways. There's no English translations. You know what I'm saying?

They, uh, I know English. You need a Rosetta Stone for English. No English translation. So you really learn to speak and listen and think in that language. That's the whole idea of Rosetta Stone is that it sticks to your head. It sticks to your brain. I learned German out of a book. It just doesn't stick as hard. So this is, this is the way to do it. Designed for long-term retention.

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Everyone has a Lorne. You might as well do your 10 seconds of Lorne because you have to have a Lorne. Oh, my God. I love it. My Lorne is not great. But yes, it's very... There's no... Yeah, it's very... My Lorne is a little more paternal, which is like when he comes on the floor right before a sketch and goes like...

Do you like these wine glasses? Does this table look right for you? And you're just so nervous. You're about to do a sketch in a restaurant. You're like, what?

Are you happy with the wine glasses? Okay. Okay. You're like, I mean, on the table in the sketch. Yeah. Yeah. They're like five, four. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My first season. I don't know if he did that later. It was a glass of Chardonnay and he would be outside. Cause then he went under the bleachers. Well, that was for the dress show mostly, but during the live show,

you're so fucking terrified. And Lawrence, why I wrote the glass of wine acting. So like, there's not a live TV show going on. It was just amazing to watch him try to buy osmosis, calm us down. I guess, you know, it's really, Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I was saying, I'm waiting to get pushed out on update in that chair. I'm in the dark. And he's like, do you know who's winning the Yankees?

I'm like, right now? I don't know. I have to look at the cards. It's a mind trick, the non-sec order, to distract you from the chair turns and there's 10 million people watching you. Go ahead, Amy. Thoughts? No, I was going to say, when you guys talk about your experiences at the show, too, on this podcast, it

it kind of feels like the before times because my first show was two weeks after 9/11. So for like the first three years or so at the show,

You know, the Chardonnay was gone. It was very much like serious business to keep comedy afloat. You know, it was very like, will we ever laugh again? And how can we do comedy? And, you know, New York is under attack. It was all this like, how do we make fun of politics? Like it was just this like slow build back to get to.

And I think that's what I'm trying to do.

will we ever laugh again? That was basically the headline. It's true. And it was like, could we though, just a little bit? Cause I'm, cause I'm here now. Yeah. You know,

It was intense. Yeah, I've been dreaming and working toward this for my whole life. Could I do something funny? How could you do such a stupid sketch when what's going on in the world? And you're like, oh, well, this is the idea is to get away from it. But it went on, to your point, it went on for a long time of the idea, when will the next attack come? Yes. And where really are we? It wasn't an awesome. So there was a really anxious period. I don't know when it finally would kind of,

I guess 2004. It felt like 2003, 2004, but don't forget, you know, there was like anthrax in the building when we were there. It was like, you know, it was wild, but I think it felt around 2000. I had one year of overlap with Will Ferrell and he did a sketch of

I guess it must have been 2001, 2002, like about a guy who was really patriotic and he was wearing like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. In the hot tub. He was wearing a Speedo. He's going to work. I think. I think it was Matt Piedmont. Yeah, I think you're right. And he wears it. He has it. He's very patriotic. Yeah, that was a big one. It's very well the way he wore the Speedo, the way he's played his legs. I mean, he is he's brave or whatever you want to call it. He's just out there.

But so that really broke the seal a little bit. Yeah. And he had, you know, we had stopped doing any Bush stuff, any we had. We didn't do any politics during that time. Interesting. But that was like a big, a big, silly, stupid, you know, guy in a Speedo sketch. And the audience really loved it. And you're like, OK, maybe maybe this is going to be OK. Maybe so. But we did a bunch of dumb pop culture stuff because, you know, it was like

Britney Spears' snake trainer was like a character I was trying to get on because no one wanted to talk about news, politics. So it was weird. You kind of appreciate the big silly ones more even later on. Big, dumb, whatever word you want to apply to them.

broad, really just balls out funny where you get sort of, you want to get that I Love Lucy kind of roll of a laugh. I got it with the dog on, it wasn't me, it was that sketch, Massive Head Moon Harry, just unleashed a whole I Love Lucy type of laughter because I was fighting with a dog over a fake...

fake head, fake brains. But it seems like, you know, just as an overview here for a second, you came on the scene and then by the time you left, you were just as good as anyone had ever done that show. I mean, you, I, I believe, and I say this to people with all sincerity. I mean, like the thing you did with Maya, the, the long Island ladies, uh,

You were both brilliant and you were just so in the pocket of that character rhythmically. Like I watched the immersion of that. It was just beautiful to watch that sketch. Oh, thanks, Dana. That means a lot. That sketch that felt like we could have only done it when we were like seniors, like we were we were relaxed enough to do it.

We wrote that with Emily Spivey, the great Emily Spivey. Yeah, we hear about her a lot. Yeah, you should have her on this. She would be an incredible guest. And yeah, we improvised a lot of that. Like it was just a lot of overlappy. The cards were kind of loose and we kind of knew what we were going to say, but not really. And I don't think we would have been able to do that in the first couple of years. I know I wouldn't have. I would have been too...

Results. Yeah, that's what I mean. I find that a lot. There's maybe Eddie Murphy, the most extreme the other way, like as confident.

in day one, apparently. And then there's people who have a pretty quick run-up, but then some of it just goes and goes and then the audience discovers you. And then it's, you know, could you, I mean, I don't want to put, you don't have to do that character for five seconds, but if you, what would she say to David and I right now? I mean, well, like she's, you know, it's a very important time because it's sweater weather, like sweater weather's coming. It's very, very big. She's going to having a lot of hot flashes and she enjoys the nip in the air. But we, we basically,

those two ladies we based those ladies off of ladies that were in really one woman who was in the hair department jody mancuso who was running the hair department she was like long island like uh or staten island i forget sorry jody if i forget and she had like she was very like and like gave it to you straight and just like come sit talk let's talk like she just had this

chatty, fun energy that was kind of flirty, very maternal. And Maya and I used to just talk with her like that and talk like her. And mine was my lady had a little bit just because I'm not particularly great with accents. My lady probably fell into like a little Boston at times just because that's my hometown. But so we played Betty and Jodi and they were just

It was almost like those women that happen to have a TV show, but they weren't, they were just chatting anyway. So we had a lot of fun where we would just, the camera would just come up on us and we were already in conversation and the camera would pull away and we were still talking. So that was the kind of vibe. It was, it was, uh, being a wasp from California. And then when I started going to New York and meeting characters in New York and they were recognizable in that sense of come sit, have a conversation.

Please. How are you? It's very, it's warm. It's extra better. Everything is out in the open. I feel spilkus, this and that, but you guys just nailed it beautifully. I don't know. It just, I see. I just saw it on Instagram, Amy, like, you know how they pull up old sketches. They just, they start traveling around because it is sweater weather. So they, I saw, I saw clips of that and it,

It's kind of fun when things live on or they make a meme or something pops out. Oh, it's the best. It's so cool. And then you go, oh, something mattered. Something I did in the old days caught somewhere, you know. Totally. People ask me this sometimes, like, what kind of compliments do you like to get? And I always say specific ones.

You know, I like that line and that thing. And so when you're out and about in the world, just what do people come up and say to you? Maybe they talk about some of your movies or certain sketches or. It's funny, you know, you can kind of tell like the millennials love Parks and Rec like that was their show. Yeah.

And that's a show that like a lot of teenagers discover during the pandemic. So there's a lot of millennial and Gen Z love for Parks and Rec. The Gen Xers and above know me more from SNL or, you know, more like movie or like hosting stuff. Golden Globes. Yeah. Like they kind of know that more, I think. But or like maybe they saw Mean Girls 25 years ago or something. All right.

but it kind of feels like i get a lot of nice women that's like my demo is nice you know tina and i are on tour right now and we're having a blast and like we it's just like the nicest women in the audience just um coming with their friends or their daughters you know so i get a lot of just like friendly women so i'm lucky that i don't get you know occasionally

And I get and I get mistaken all the time for other women, whether it's Tina or Dratch or like I you know, they kind of mush us all together, which is which is fine with me. Really? But that happens sometimes, too. But it's OK. Well, my wife is not a comedy fanatic or anything, but she I told her that you and Tina were doing a show. She goes, oh, I would see that show.

Yeah. We're making, we're doing that show for your wife. I think that, um, well, she's a nice woman. I go back to that. So it's, uh, you know, the golden globes kind of cemented it. Um, we all, we saw you do an update, you know, there's Tina and you guys have this connection. I'm soon really, truly, really good friends and have the chemistry of Steve Martin and Martin short. Um,

And so seeing that, it's like, well, this is going to be fun. Because when I think of you two, even though you did satirical jokes on Golden Globes, it was still always fun. Yeah. I think that's a good brand to have. You're going to have fun. It's underrated. I think you're right. I think I don't know. I am in no way an expert in hosting things. But one thing I did learn really quick was from SNL, too. Like, if you don't look like you're relaxed or having fun, the audience gets very stressed. Right.

Yeah, they're worried about it. When I see hosts and they're either nervous or stressed or even like coming in angry, like

I don't know why I'm here. Like that kind of thing. It's like, Oh no, I get so stressed because you are hosting a party. You're supposed to look like you're having fun. Like it's a party. Like who cares? It's an award show. Who cares? You, you, Maya, it was you, Maya and Tina. Was that at the Academy Awards? We didn't host it. We just like opened it. Cause I think that was a good trick of like less pressure there.

They're not the host, but you're on longer than you should be. And you're just joke machine. And then everyone's like, fuck, where are these? Why aren't they here the whole time? It's so great. Yeah. You don't have a month of lead up. Like, what are you going to do? What's so funny? Because, you know, those hosting gigs are a lot of work. They're hard. There are a lot of jokes to write and get through. And then also you can get you can.

you know, now they like are kind of, you can fall into traps and you can, people can get mad. Yeah. And so you're like, Oh my God, forget it. Someone always has a problem with it. No matter what. I know it's okay. It's like when Billy Bob Thornton got his Emmy, I think he goes, Oh,

I'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble. I'm substituting Bill Clinton as Billy Bob Thornton. I apologize. I'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble for saying something these days. So he just walked off, you know, but to the fun part, you might find this funny in a way because John Lovitz, I was the one who kept saying, John, you got to do standup. So I was kind of, I'm no expert, but I'm coaching him a little bit. I go, John, the one thing you always have to remember right before you go out, because you can forget that.

Just say to yourself, have fun. And he goes, I did it. I tried it. And then I started having more fun. And then I was getting bigger laughs, you know, John. So it's an amazing thing. But sometimes you go, what is going on? I'm not having fun. I forgot to have fun. It's the hardest. I think it's actually like the last piece. It's the hardest piece to learn because you're pushing or you're nervous or your head's somewhere else. Yeah.

Yeah. And then when you actually relax, the audience just relaxes with you. I mean, I learned a lot from Will Ferrell that way because I would watch him perform and he had this like mischievous quality where he, him and the audience were in on it together, you know, it was kind of like this, this bemused quality of like, can you believe we're all here doing this stupid thing? And I,

It would, you know, just like the minute they see you sweat, it gets so stress free. They tighten up. This goes to therapy or something, but try not to try. Try not to push. Try not to be desperate. Try not to rush it. Take your time, but be in the pocket. And of course, when that voice goes silent, then, you know, you and Tina are just on a roll.

Well, what do you guys do when you let this rarely probably happens for you anymore, but like, let's say you're trying new material and it's not working.

What do you do? Do you pull back? Do you pull back in that moment or do you put like, do you push? Because I'll tell you that what I have to work on is pulling back too hard and like getting sleepy. Your joke isn't working and you go to sleep. I go to sleep. I go right to sleep. You recoil. You know, it's funny when I, when something doesn't work, there's,

I had it happen on the road recently where the whole show is going well and one joke doesn't click. And I go, I had to stop and go, literally no one bought that. Not one person. And it wasn't a couple of you. Everyone said no sale. And I feel like you're wrong on this one. And I'm going to give you one freebie. Yeah. And then they don't know what to make of that. They're like, well, you're mad at us, but it's like joke mad. But when something doesn't work in a regular set, or if you're doing a set on TV, it's

What happens to me is you get spooked like a horse because my brain goes, what happened? And I can't think of my next joke because it's preoccupied with what do I do? Why? Wait, should I even do the next one? What did it just, did I say it wrong? And then you're like, that throws you. If you take one extra second,

They think something's up. It's got to be just so smooth, like a play. Boom, boom, boom. I know. I have a bit in my act. I won't even say the bit, but whatever. It's sort of like two thirds of the way, like you're trying to bring it to the barn, you know, and the last two times not landing. And I know Jerry Seinfeld, who's this fangali about this, check the setup, you know.

If the setup is, God, you know, I did this for Steve Marvin. Jerry's going to do a live album on vinyl and it's going to, you're going to see a picture of him on the cover and it's called paper clips. Why? Um,

Just like that. So Jerry, we love him. He's brilliant. But I, um, I think sometimes you, when you first say it in a joke and you're kind of connected to it or a bit, and then you can get a little bored and you maybe drop just even part of the setup or stuff like that. Cause you're doing, are you actually out there solo in your show with Tina as well? Yeah, we do some sketch. We do stand up. We do, um,

Do you do update? Stuff together. We do update. We do. Yeah. Really? Oh, great. So what's your first line? Ladies and gentlemen, here to do some stand up for our show is Amy Poehler. No way. I'm not doing. Are you out of your mind?

mind. I am not doing with YouTube. I thought your first line would be, you'd say what's up and then the name of the town. What's up, Chicago? Hey, what's up, Denver? That's a good first line. Here's my opener. I'd be like this. Hey, guys. Tina will be out in a minute.

Oh my God, it's funny that you say that. I'm like, I'm going to do a little stand-up while Tina gets her IV drip. There you go. Well, I think, Dana and I were talking before we brought you on because we're both on the road here and there, and there's so many things about the road that are so tricky and icy that, you know, it is true something about like,

the show is the fun part, obviously. And it's so hard just to get to their city. You just want to get high five. Like I got here. I'm in the theater. Get in the hotel. And I don't, I feel like shit, but here I go. Let's do this because you almost never feel great. And you're almost never like, well, that was easy. It's like, this is problem, problem. And then the hotel and getting there and what's backstage. There's so many interesting questions we were thinking of with you guys. When do you go on? Oh, I know. It's so fun because

You're right. Every different theater and space has like a vibe and it has like the guy that's in charge, like the one that character. Yeah. There's always the character. It's like, oh, I can't answer that. You have to talk to Dan about that. And you're like, okay, where's Dan? Like it's always Dan's always around. Dan doesn't come in. Dan doesn't.

Dan zooms in from home. My guy's usually named Dan as well. I don't know if he travels a lot. Do you do a sound check? We do. We do a sound check. Oh, you have to have a lot of stuff going on. Because you got a montage of greatest hits or whatever, and you've got whatever. You have a piano player and stuff like that? No, we have some recorded music stuff, but we don't have a live. Yeah. And you sing together? Live piano player. But it's, what's that? Do you sing a song together? Maybe.

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What do you do to relax your giant brain? Well, I really like the water. Like that calms me down a lot. I like swimming and going in the water. Ocean, lake, and swimming. I like a lot. And can you swim?

No, I can't. But I mean, I, I, I go to a hotel pool and I go freestyle and I go the length of the pool and I'm completely wiped out. And then, you know, I'm like sprinting, but I don't know it. And it's, there is a whole technique to it, but you, you've learned it right. How to actually, I think if I need to get regulated, my nervous system, water does help me, whether even if it's a bath or just like getting in some water. But before a show, you know,

I'm kind of used to, it's funny when I would do shows as an improviser and like sketch comedian with standups, I was always surprised

that there wasn't a lot of chit-chat. You know, there was... Stand-ups were just kind of trying, like, walking around, talking, or with their headphones, like, thinking about their set and really, really... And, frankly, trying to remember it, which is half the battle. Very true. And you... And with improv and sketch, you know, it's like, you want to just, like, keep doing bits up until you go on stage. It's like, you want to just, like, make a connection with the people you're performing with. And so...

I kind of tend to like want to just chit chat and talk and, and not overthink things. But now that I'm older, like sometimes I just want to like do some like light stretch, light stretching. Yeah.

Just some light stretching. So I don't pull a hammy. Oh, definitely. You can't go high. And then your arms like, oh, sorry. You know, I mean, I try to do a wide squat and make sure because I might get in that position or move around, stretch your calves. Yeah. Have you ever had any physical thing or cut yourself on stage? Oh, my God. Yes. I just well, I'm just getting over this thing. I talk about it on stage. I'm just getting over this thing, which is so embarrassing. It sounds like a.

It sounds like a bad cocktail, but I had this thing this year called Frozen Shoulder. Know all about it.

Yes. I bet your wife, like, was it your wife that went through it? No, no. It was our mutual manager. I think. Okay. Had a frozen shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. I feel, what does it do? It's the weirdest thing. It comes out of nowhere. And it's like from my anecdotally, I find it's mostly women of my age, but it's just like inflammation. And suddenly you just like, can't lift your arm all the way up. And so I,

It's this, it just feels like you're like, you just feel really fucking old. You just are like, oh, fucking hell. What is this? And it'll take about a year. And you're just like, what a year. And it's proven to be about a year. So yeah, it's,

They're just making up names for old things. Frozen shoulder sounds good. And you're like, well, is it a real thing or I'm just falling apart? It's a real, real thing. I was doing a podcast with David. I never even said this before. We're doing what we've done a few live. And then my.

I think it was my left foot. My toes splayed out in a spasm and were... I was in massive pain, but I just was riding it out to...

Just riding it out. We're interviewing someone. Spade, take it. And I'm like, well, it doesn't happen to me all the time. They just, the toes went out and got really angry. As soon as it was over, I just walked around. It was fine. But we have to, we're supposed to do all this freaking stuff all day long, pulling and stretching and Pilates, all this stuff to keep us together. You know, so. I did. I know. And I was so much younger when I was on SNL. And I think about how much I just,

partied and just walked. Like I didn't do, I didn't worry about any of it. I just wasn't even thinking about any of it. I wasn't thinking about collagen. I wasn't thinking about water. Nothing. Nope. Wasn't even thinking about one. Did we know? Do we, did we, I know I look at you see picture yourself cause you're in show business ago. Damn. I've,

Did I know how cute I was? Yeah. I know. Did we know how young we were? Or is it just all wasted on young? Who said that? Cole Porter? I don't know. I didn't have a glass of water during SNL. I was there six years. You never had one glass. That just wasn't the thing that everyone... I didn't know what carbs were. I ate fucking pasta every day. Wally and Joseph's, I ate pizza. And I always felt shitty. I never put anything together. I'm like, what is it? What is it?

I don't have the Rubik's cube to figure this out. All you just carbs, no water and diet Coke. And my body is so sore to me when I, every day, it's like my shoulders going, I open a car door and they're like, what? I'm like, I do this every day. And it's like, Oh, what are you doing? Like it's, it forgets overnight. I'm doing basic things.

I know. Well, you know what? You know what has helped me with this? And I know this is probably like people listening are like, oh, my God, be quiet. How old are you guys? Yeah. But you know what I've been doing is I've been doing cold dips and they've changed the game. Yes. I do cold dips and it changed the game. Okay.

Cause that's a big deal. Now do you do it in a, in a bathtub with ice in it? You do it, you take the, or is it in a pool or a lake or where are you getting it? Like I have a cold dip tub. Okay. Cold dip tub. Okay. Like a tub that I keep cold. So, and I have a, like a sauna, a little hot sauna. So I do 15 minutes of the sauna and then I plunge in the cold dip and it helps a lot. David inflammation. Yes. Yes.

I think you and Tina should do 10 minutes in a cold plunge doing update on stage. Just bring out the ice. I would love that. I think our endorphins would be flying. Sponsors. I'm on an undisclosed location, but I have a pool for the first time in a long time. And don't heat it. I like it as cold as I can get it now for that very reason. Wake up. It's amazing if you get into a cold lake

Because I always look at it as a lake that's really too warm, how you really suffer for about 10 seconds. But if you're moving, all of a sudden you're like, oh, it's fine. Yeah, that's the thing about getting older is like forced austerities. Like what can I do to myself that a doctor is not telling me to do, but that I can do to torture myself?

Like I have the privilege of cold dipping or like I only eat apples after 5 p.m. And it's like, why is like just that's what I'm doing now. It's got to be good. I know I'm trying something. Yeah. Well, it's it's it's always nice. You get a blood test and stuff and you're wondering, well, did they find some doctors talking to you like it's fine. It's good. Everything's OK. So my guy, my guy looks at my blood test. I sit there and he goes and he goes like this.

Don't love that. You know, the worst thing, the worst thing about you here from a doctor is I went to a dentist because I had a tooth thing. This is what we're going to talk about. The rest of my guys. It's so tragic. And the guy comes in and he actually said, he actually said, wow. When he looked at my mouth, he said, wow. I said, wow. I mean, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

He said it like, oh, he said it like walking. He said it like walking. Wow. Wow. Wow. Yeah. Three. I just said someone, were you in a walking family? I never saw that. I said to my friend, I go, look at this ridiculous. Oh, you all were walking in the sketch, right? Yes. And that was so fun. Cause you know, I think I, I, um,

I benefited from low expectations. I don't think anyone expects me to pull out a good walk-in, but I was playing a little kid, like a little girl who was doing a walk-in. And I had had a friend who had told me a story about Christopher Walken and that he was...

He was, he went to, he was on set one time and he was like, you know, are there any ghosts here? Like, you know, this place is spook. He kept saying it's spooky. It was such a funny word to say. So I got to say ghosts and spooky. And that was, yeah, that was enough. Did he care at all? He, he was one of the most interesting hosts. Um,

because he was really, he's really, you know, no surprise, eccentric dude. So he was really comfortable with silence. So, you know, most people, when you're just waiting around to run the scene again, you're just sitting on the floor, like you chit chat, like, but he would want to just sit quietly between each, you know, so he, he might've been the longest I've ever gone. Yeah.

seated next to someone and not talking like five, six, seven minutes. It would just be me and him and we wouldn't talk. And it became like a contest in my own mind to see how long we could go. And he was fine with it. He was fine with it. Can everyone shut up?

Yeah. He was super, super talented and very, very, I swear. He's so interesting. He's riveting. The first sketch. I don't know what it was. I maybe a church chat or something. Anyway, the, we were, did it all. We rehearsed it, but on air, he never looked at me. He just looked straight at the cue cards and read it and it worked. Yeah. And it was funnier, you know?

I heard a rumor that he takes out, I don't know if this is true, but that he takes out all the punctuation in his scripts. Wouldn't surprise me because his rhythm is so specific that might get him out of his rhythm. Don't like to pause in ways like that. I mean, John Lovitz again, my friend John, he's the kind of guy that goes, is it you?

Are you are you making up that dialect? Is that the way you really talk? And he said, walk and just started laughing. You're making it up, right? Oh, that's funny. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. He seemed like he had a good sense of humor about himself. Yeah. And who knows? You know, there's certain actors who just extenuate their rhythms as they become film stars over the years, like Al Pacino, when he feels like it.

- Yeah. - And Walken too. He was in that Woody Allen movie as the psycho driver. It was in the 70s. - Yeah. - First time I saw him. - Yeah. - You know, but then-- - And he goes, "Sometimes I like to turn the car. I think of turning into the headlights." - Yeah. - And he goes, "I wouldn't on this trip."

maybe put a pin in that and we'll you know it's like a crazy just uh when as soon as you drop me off you can indulge your piccadillos if you want to go into the and get some rhubarb and you know um but yeah he said just one of the thrills of doing saturday night live is just doing sketch comedy with someone like this for walking and you know i don't

seeing him in the deer hunter. I just feel like, you know, growing up in the seventies, like I just saw every movie way too young. I was so many images. You saw that at what? Oh, I can't even imagine. I think I was seven. And it was like, I learned about, yeah, I learned about Vietnam. I learned about prisoners of war. I learned about, um, uh, you know, Russian roulette. I learned it all from Christopher Walken. And it was like, you know, and then I went to first grade, like,

I'm heading to first grade, guys. I'm tired. I was at the deer hunter last night. They were getting slapped in the face in Vietnam. Now I'm going to the exorcist. And they're forced to play Russian roulette and they would slap them and say, and slap them. And I don't know what that word meant in Vietnamese, but it's one of the most riveting, darkest scenes in film history. I saw The Reefers with Steve McQueen when I was a little... I saw Bonnie and Clyde

When I was like 11, it's a little tamer, a little tamer, but there was a sex scene. It was a little, you know, so, but yeah, you've seen those seventies, bad-ass movies as a little girl. We, and you know, I was the generation that got like HBO and MTV, like in our house and no one was paying attention. So suddenly you just, there are movies on that you should not, I should not have been watching. It's just that, yeah, no one knows just the next movie on.

And everyone's gone. You're like, oh, what's this? Oh, The Omen. Yep. The Omen. Let's see what this is about. This might be fun. Hopefully, I hope you both didn't see this movie because it stayed with me and disturbed me very much. And I think it's Dustin Hoffman. I know it's Dustin Hoffman. It's the first Straw Dogs movie.

Look it up, kids. I don't even want to talk about it. Fucking Lovett sent me that the other day. Is that crazy? He sent me a preview. Watch this movie. Straw Dogs with Dustin Hoffman? Yes. Is that weird? It's brilliant, but it is dark. Well, I was just watching Midnight Cowboy the other day. They had a showing of it in New York, and I was like, oh, I love Midnight Cowboy. I love Dustin Hoffman in that, and I love John Voight. And then I'm like, oh my God, I forgot this giant, horrible...

You know, assault scene. There's so many, you know, there's so much assault in that movie, like flashbacks of what happens to John Boyd's character and his girlfriend. And I was like, I forget what 70s movies you just be cruising along. And then there'd be like a really violent scene. They were just, oh, no. And when now I'm the mother of teenagers and I like, oh, you should watch this movie. And then there's just a scene that's always funny.

Oh, I forgot this scene was in this movie. It's brutal. I even got, I got scared at Tommy, uh, Dana. I was young and my brother took me and, and the gypsy acid queen. And then she threw like acid in the guy's face. So there's fire at the beginning and it burned his face. And I was like, and I go, I have a stomach ache. And I went to the lobby and then I never came back.

Because I got scared. They go, what's up? I go, no, I'm fine. I just have some stuff to do out here. Literally nothing to do. What's the first... Have you shown a movie to your kids where it blew their mind and it was kind of satisfying? Because at one point, I don't remember how old they were. This is my example. I put on Jaws for them. And maybe they were sort of 12, 14, whatever. Okay, see you later, kids. So I come back 10 minutes later and they're not moving. They're just staring. They just hit them at the right...

you know, like, oh man, this is amazing. So yeah, that was, yeah, that's, I mean, I have two boys. They really like a lot of sci-fi, you know, action adventure stuff, but they, I remember when they were really young, I Willy Wonka was the first one that I was like, I think you're going to love this. And they loved it. And I felt really, and, and as far as comedy, like it, it, you know, what, how,

you don't love what your mom likes. Like your mom is lame. Like you don't want to like what your mom likes. But so I almost had to let them discover SNL on their own. And they're at the age now they're...

13 and 15 where they're, they're at that age where they're like, I wonder what SNL is going to do about this. Like, that's what, you know, and you know, definitely their favorite anchors are Jost and Che and they, of course, and they just don't want to watch. They barely want to watch stuff I'm in. It's like, it's embarrassing. Like it's their mom. Right. Do they want to watch their mom on TV? Have you recommended comedies that they give the thumbs down like that you grew up with? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. There's been so many things where I'm like, that's,

funny. Now that is, you should watch that. That's funny. Oh, that's funny. Mom, you got to check this out. This is really funny, mom. Yeah. And I'm always like, turn that off. That, that guy is, but, um, I remember the Simpsons was a first crossover where we could all watch it and they were kind of learning how to structure a joke and, and they, and, you know, I was laughing too, but, um,

Yeah, it's always that group on SNL, for example, when you're 12 or 13. And not to make you feel old, Dana, but that was you for me. Me too, me too. I feel terrific. I'm the youngest I've ever been at this particular age. Your toes are not spasming at all. Everything is fine. No, no, nothing is spasmed during. And if they were spasming, I would cover for it. I would just get kind of quiet on the Zoom. And I might slunk down a little.

A little bit. I'd be like in the frame. Come like this. And Amy would go to herself. Is he spasming right now? Yeah. Is he? No, I feel, I feel good. I do a lot of countermeasures for Asia. I hydrate a lot. Oh, congrats.

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You know, Dana, sometimes I think, you know, because we all write and we all write comedy and write this and whatever. And sometimes not just obviously comedies, but I'll watch a show and I'll be like, this is so fucking complicated. I am not even in the same genre. I'm not a writer because the fact they have so many levels to these things.

And I go, what is this dog shit I write? Why am I called a writer? This is ridiculous. I shouldn't even be in the guild. Well, we just do bite-sized silly stuff every week. It's goofy. We don't...

comedians don't really get awards. They generally don't win Oscars. And we have the American comedy awards anymore. Oh, but you know what? I, you guys will be the right people to talk, the right people to talk to you about this. What irritates me so much though, is that once a year, at least there's like someone that we would all consider genuinely funny who gives a performance. That's really good, you know, good acting performance. And people are always like, wow. And I'm like, are you, do you like, I think acting is,

and comedy are so combined they're so close you know like you one must be a good actor to sell a bit tell a joke to like there's i'm just i'm always surprised that people are surprised that funny people can be good actors um you know so rarely are good actors funny but right but funny people are often very good actors and i always think it's just i i think it i don't think

I don't think they get, I don't think people get, I don't think 20 people. It's such a rare commodity, but if we were, if comedy was outlawed, I would love to do drama or do kind of realistic acting, but this is what I do best, I guess. It's just a rare thing. And good comedy performances don't really get the old Oscars and stuff. They don't. Not saying us, just saying other people that are great at it and they do a great performance. It's not even considered.

No, it's crazy. There's a reason they say, well, who said this? Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. I know that was like from the vaudeville or something. It was tough. That's why I'm jealous of musicians because when musicians have to play an event, they just get up there and they play their song.

Like they play the song. Everybody wants that. They, they play the same song over and over again that everybody wants them to play. And when you're, when you're going up there trying to do something funny, people are like, give us something new. We don't want to hear your usual stuff. Yeah. I'm like, how about this? It's old. You can't repeat your bits and then you have to create rapport and, Oh, it sucks. I always want to plug in a guitar and Oh my God. After every line you're judged, if they don't laugh,

Even people that aren't listening, like, I guess it's not going well, but with musicians, here it is. Applause. Here's the next one. Applause. But there's no, like, I guess we did good. Do they yell out for you? Do you get yell out for you, David? Or does, do they yell out your hits or they, or they yell stuff? I get sort of a, sometimes a rowdier crowd, uh,

I mean, what's your Amy? Dana and I have done corporates. Have you and Tina ever done a corporate? Oh, yeah. I used to do. Yes. Yes. And there I mean, I used to I used to do a lot of we used to do a lot of corporate stuff for Second City back in the day. Like, you know, and this is before anyone knew our names, but we would have to go. We would get paid, you know, to like.

to do jokes about, you know, old John Miller. Yeah. Vice president, John Miller. Like he's got crazy hair and he loves great, you know, wearing kooky ties and everyone would be like, that's me. I'm John Miller. And you just have to do all these like specific jokes. So hard. It's so hard. I work with him. That's true. It's so him. You're doing it. He's got three balls and beats his wife. Say something about it.

I go, and my act? I don't know what to say. And then one guy laughs in the back. Yeah. And then everyone else is like, was that true? It's one guy sets you up. Yeah. And the meet and greet, I'm sure you've had this, but I don't know if it's like alpha male stuff, but I'm this little guy and I'm sort of the star of the show. But in the meet and greet, I have these guys just really kind of fucking wailing on my hand. And maybe they've had a couple cocktails. They show off.

I'm like, I had at one point, then I got tennis elbows, more ailments. So I had to do the fist bump or I had to kind of wave. And they're like, I want to put my mitts in time with your mitts. Squeeze, you know. I'll show you who's boss. I'm like, you're boss. We don't even have to do this. Yeah, you win, boss. I go, I have frozen hand and Dana has frozen elbow. Yeah.

Amy has frozen shoulder. But at least my screen hasn't frozen. So Amy, so you're going to therapy and stuff. I mean, first of all, just career-wise, I mean, do you have any bug? Are you going to try to do a dramatic film? Or you're directing, you directed Wine Country, you're writing, you're producing shit. I mean, what doesn't she do? Don't be scared. You have new glasses. Don't run away from it.

She doesn't pay her taxes. You just do a lot. You do a lot. Yeah. I have this production company called Paper Kite. So we produce a lot of TV and film. I like doing a lot of different things. That's why, you know, and trying to stay doing a lot of different things. Because I find this business is very...

I mean, the strike is a perfect example of it. Like it's really fickle. It's really, you have to stay, you have to know how to pivot. So like, I like acting and stuff and writing stuff and directing stuff and

And so I try to kind of do, you know, whatever is the next thing I try to do is different from what I just did. And but I haven't done I've been more into writing and directing than performing lately. And the tour has been really fun because it's gotten me back into being excited. And this podcast is.

It's been fun because it's good to play like a character, but actually doing TV or doing movies like this. So hard, so much time, so hard being on set. It's just takes up. As you guys know, it just takes up your life. The hardest are such a chunk beginning, middle, end of your day.

And, you know, I feel so lucky, like, to show that I love that I couldn't imagine going to do something else right away. And then, you know, suddenly I'm looking at whatever it is, like six, seven years later. But so, yeah.

Yeah. I'm just kind of doing whatever feels right to do next. And I'm so lucky that you brought up wine country. I have such a group of ladies. It's kind of like you guys, it's you guys with grownups. Like, it's just like, I want to just keep doing stuff with the women I love and they're so funny and there's so much fun. I mean, there's no better joy than doing stuff with your friends. Like that's success. And you, who was it? I liked it. You know, I love, I love this phrase. It's been used a few times in this podcast. A murderer's row is such a funny phrase.

But it was a murderer's row on Wine Country. You know, obviously, Maya, Rachel, Anna. Yes, we had a murderer's row in that movie. Paula Powell, Emily Spivey, Anna Gasteyer, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Maya Rudolph. But then when I was at SNL, I was lucky. I was in this group of...

um will forte fred armisen bill hader andy sandberg seth meyers like christian wigg that all happened in my years too keenan thompson like it was just so that was they were so talented people were so so good and talented and when i look at those cast photos of who i got and also the beginnings and endings of my time there my endings it was like you know will ferrell um chris parnell and then

And that was the reason that when I was leaving, you know, Kate McKinnon was coming in and like all these people were coming in that were. So that's the cool thing is you just, if you're lucky, you get some overlap with people that you just love. And that's the best. I had one year with Will and got to watch him. One last question from me and then Dana, whatever he wants, but you, you, you did Hillary and then it was a Kate did it after you. Yes. Yeah. And on, I think,

Anna Gasser did it before me. Maybe did Hillary before me? Yeah, there was a bunch of them. And I did it when when Downey was writing a lot of them. And then and then

yeah and then we did when palin that was like first she was running it against barack you know for the to win the thingy there and then barack won the thing what you call it nomination nomination yeah well first he won the nomination right he beat hillary and then palin showed up so it was so fun to be able to do those two characters together because you don't get a lot of like

female politicians getting to even do scenes together half the time. Yeah. So that was super, super fun to do. And it, it felt like it was, everybody was paying attention to that election. It was very, you know, I played Dennis. I played Dennis Kucinich one time and everyone was like, ah,

Look him up. Look him up if you don't know who he is. Dennis Kucinich. Well, then it became a lot, which, you know, we asked Keenan this question and I've referred to it a couple of times, you know, about great cast or great cast members. And he just said the MVP basically is the women cast.

of since the 90 late 90s and we have jan hooks and nor done our gender but there's been so many dominant women and even in later years now the women play the male politicians there's all the rules are so that's that's kind of cool it's progress i suppose for oh yeah women i mean i was very very lucky to be dropped into that show at a time when tina was the head writer and molly and sherry

And Anna had just left, like they had just done so much great work. And yeah, I mean, I just kept going. I just kept going. Yeah. I think that wasn't always the case ever. You know, everyone has their version of their experience there. And I think there were stretches when women did not feel comfortable.

heard, supported, encouraged. And I'm sure there still are places and stretches now where like if everyone has a completely different experience about their time there, but I felt like I lucked out in that there were these like just killers that were there crushing that I felt I was

part of that group. And I, you know, I felt very lifted up by them. So I was very lucky. It feels like it's been wiped out. If there was ever, you know, some dude in the seventies, you know, women aren't funny, not Lauren, but somebody, you know, like women aren't as funny as men or why after Lucy Ball and others, they would say that Carol Burnett, but it seems now it's like,

To me, anyway, being a baby boomer, it's obliterated. This is a funny person. I don't think I'm watching a woman. I just go, they're funny. They're funny. So I guess I'm calling it progress a little bit. And I would even say to expand it less about gender. Like I find the more talented you are, the less most, unless you're, yeah, you're just not, you're not.

that insecure. Like the funniest people I know love other funny people. That's what they love. They get drawn to other people's work, regardless of race, gender. Yeah. They don't care. But if it's people that like have their own stuff, they're working out and here we are back to therapy. Dr. Sheila would be able to get these people in and talk and say like, I know you don't laugh at this person, but really what's the thing about yourself that you're not

Not laughing at. Not laughing at. What's part about you that isn't funny that you're mad at the women that are funny? Yeah, what are you mad about? But I do think, you know, kind of dovetailing back into the quasi-Marine analogy or esprit de corps. But when you see somebody who makes you laugh, or me personally, who does this and knows how hard it is or just some whimsical luck that something hits you and the rhythms are right and it works, and then watching other people do it.

And then really in your own mind going, well, they're doing it. They're doing it, I think, better than me. You know, it's like and you kind of connect to them. And if you meet them socially places, there's a frequency there or a shortcut.

It's a great way of communicating. And sense of humor is a good thing if you can have it in friends and relationships. It just cuts across. And anywhere I would be in the world, if a few comedians walked in, if it was any social awkward thing, even if I knew them or didn't know them, I would instantly be a lot more comfortable. Yeah.

Yeah, at parties I go up, even those big Oscar type, you just zoom right over to the comedian. Anybody in the comedy world sort of gravitates together, feel like your own little group. Totally. Absolutely. I mean, I really mean it. I feel honored to be in a group.

That you guys feel like you're in too. I mean, I feel like I would zoom right to you and Tina. If I saw you out, I'd be like, guys, save me. What's going on? I'm saving this for them, but I am a licensed therapist. I just, it's a casual thing I got. And why do you feel that way about your peers?

Why do you feel the need to ask? Yeah. Yeah. Check. She's been practicing. My therapist helped me. The one thing she said was, she basically says life is a shit show. Don't get involved in this idea that these people are living these dream lives on Instagram or whatever. It's all made up to, to, to live is to suffer and to embrace it. You're like, Oh, cool. Okay. It's all right. It's kind of like, where are we talking about, about SNL? You have to kind of believe that no,

no one's really thinking about you. Everyone's kind of thinking about themselves. And if you take the pressure off of yourself that everybody's thinking about you, then you can have a good time. But most people are just thinking about themselves. Life is hard. Everyone's in their own head. The entire audience, yeah. And we all know that we watch really successful people who kind of get what

would be the platonic version of all the stuff everyone would want and they're still just not happy. So...

Happy is an elusive kind of concept, you know, because going for content at this point, if you're striving because it's not a, well, another cliche. So is it about the shiny things in the money or people talking to you at an airport? Ultimately it is, but landing the bit, right? I mean, for me anyway, well, David's different. He's coming up. Listen, coming up with ideas or something that makes me laugh is like one of the

last joys of like, it's still something works in your brain. You're like, Oh, this is, Oh, that's going to kill code of a joke or an angle. And you go, fuck that little things like that are really mean a lot, you know? Yes. Agree. And hopefully we can still do it when we're,

Like not able to stand up and lift our shoulders. We'll do sit down. You guys will do sit down. No matter what they say, if use it or lose it is a, is a concept, you know, I think the more you, I mean, I think trying to memorize your act, like say you have kind of a new act. I was shooting a special and just the, the exhaustion of your brain, it must be some kind of workout to keep you articulate. Um, or like,

All things being equal, because you'll stay more fluid longer. And doing this, you know, when we started reading ads, I was dyslexic or something. Remember, David, in the early days, I was like, I couldn't really read them. And now I've liquefied my ancient brain and now I can just look at it. I heard Amy doing her ads and I'm like, this is liquid IV. I go, I'm drinking one now. I go, this is...

this is similar, but it's, I have to say it's fun to do podcast ads as a character though. Cause you, yes, I told data you do that. Yeah. Yeah. You can just say whatever stupid stuff you want. If it helps you. I, this is the way I think about it. I just think of these small companies that are sponsors are sometimes their mom and pop and families. I go, they're trying to live the American dream. They're going all out. So I, now I'm like,

With that attitude, I'm excited that they're supporting our show. I sincerely, I turned down every commercial, every gigantic, bringing the Brinks truck in the nineties. Cause I was, we're supposed to be like Bob Dylan or something. We didn't, we don't have a catalog to sell. That's the problem. You got to sell the catalog later. But, um, anyway, I, I'm going to sum up date, uh, Amy with, uh, uh,

Listen to this summary, okay, Dana? And you can jump in. He does this every time. He lands it. Okay, okay. Dr. Sheila, Dr. Sheila Podcast, out now. She's got her head down listening very contently. She is also... It was very fun to talk to you because I don't see you a lot. It's a great time to just shoot the shit with someone that's funny. And Dana, you were fine. And also...

Oh, we forgot. You were in Baby Mama. We're not going to talk about that, but it's a great movie also. Baby Mama.

And she's in Mean Girls along with memes of Mean Girls, which she's in. Memes. That everyone loves it. And Dana, continue. Wrap it up. You get half of this. SNL Artstar, just a little milestone. The first all-girl update feature. All women, sorry. Her and Tina. All funny is what I call it. She released, yes, Please, about her life. The Restless Leg Tour. I don't know.

I don't think they need a tour. I forgot. Yeah. The tour is going to be, they don't need us to promote them. The tickets are going fast. Yeah. Whoops. I mean, we can add another show, but it's hard. It sounds easy to go to add another show. Then you go, but it's still tough.

Tough. It's so fun. The audience knows it's so fun to perform for the audience. Everything around it is a little tough. That's the only decision. It's like, shit, give me a good crowd. I love it. Cause what are you going to do? You're in your room for like 14 hours waiting for the show. Maybe go to a matinee. If it's easy to get to a theater, walk out front and sign a bobblehead.

They're like, sign this. But we're not complaining to people listening. We understand. We're getting paid to act like idiots. No, Dane is complaining. I love it. We're getting money to act like idiots. Thank you, Amy. Very nice of you to take the time. We love it. We love talking to you. And the best part of this podcast, we just get to spend a focused hour getting to know you in 20 whatever it is, 20

It's a very boring time in America. Nothing's going on. So it's good that we can figure out something to talk about. Yeah. But anyway, well, we'll see. I love this is what I use because someone did it to me.

see you around campus as if show business is a high school or something oh that's cute i love that i love that and that's better yeah that i love uh spending time with you guys thanks so much for asking me i really have so enjoyed listening to everybody on this podcast and so thanks for letting me be part of it we appreciate it i'll see you in science class see you in science class

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