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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

Sherry O'Terry, David. Sherry O'Terry is so hilarious. Yes. And one of my, I think she's one of the favorites there. She was always, she was perfect for the show. Full of energy, full of characters, wrote a lot. And that's exactly what you want for that show. She was like, when they say brother from another mother, I don't know how you say sister from another mister. I don't know. I think you do. But I definitely had some...

Some crossover with Sherry O'Terry in that she – and I've talked to other comedians about this. She broke the seal on that show of what a woman could do in a sketch because she would commit to sexual innuendo and physicality so intensely that you couldn't not laugh. And she has this thing that she does –

where she looks off after- Oh yeah, she was like this? Yeah, the character lands a line- I keep it, huh? I keep it. Yeah, so she's as organically funny as anybody, and the interview was so much fun because we were just laughing the whole time, and she just kept telling these stories about her mother and her childhood, and it was just fascinating. God, we were laughing. That was one we were laughing a lot. Yeah, and the stuff, the fantasy world that she grew up in and what made Sherry O'Terry-

And her name is very cool. You would be David Ode Spaded or something. No, Spade is obviously a fake name, but no, people, Chris Rock used to go, Spade, did they ask you, they say, did you and Spade make your names up? No.

I lucked out. Chris Rock is a great name. Chris Rock is a great name. It's like boom, boom, boom. David Spade's good. Dana's I like, but Carvey's weird because there's only five in North America. It's one of the strangest tribes from Ireland. We were murderers and thieves and-

Gun runners. We're nasty people. Well, that's good news. I've got a lot of anger underneath this facade. This facade. Underneath this pith helmet. By the way, gang, you can write to me about where to get this hat. By the way, the petunias are almost ready. I feel like I'm like Henry Fonda in Golden Pond. Yeah, I was looking for some strawberries.

I wanted to get back here and see your sweet face. You're going to go, go, go. That's for the over 70s. Jeez. Boom. I don't know that movie. I'm so young. You're so young and so fresh. Yeah, if you were a plant, you'd be a daisy. Fresh.

I'm grizzled. Sherry O'Terry. Sherry O'Terry. This is just. She looks up to Dana a lot too. A lot of people come on here too, especially. I get some nice compliments, but we have had a lot of incredible episodes. We love anyone who would dare come on our narcissist display. But Sherry did stick out as someone who really, really made me laugh. So enjoy this one.

Hi, Sherry. Hi. It's so nice to see you. It's so nice to see your bed. I know, one of my beds. Wow, and you made it for today. I did. I fluffed my hair up. I copped an attitude. I checked my lighting. My lighting is amazing. You look like you're in high school, which is perfect.

You guys both look good. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Spade. I have lighting above me, which I guess is the worst scenario. That's not flattering, David. No, I do look good. Okay, if you insist. Gary. Look at these. Look at your hair. Wow. Oh, shit. You know what I have to write down that I have to ask Sherry about? I might as well just ask her. We're on. Sherry, you...

don't remember this, but you were on the show with me for a full season. She doesn't remember that. You might not remember that. I'll put my hat on so you don't gross out. But one time we went to Fiorello's. And you fainted? Oh, no. Yes. Yeah. Someone said, came back to me, and it was your time to pay the check. And they go, your friend is in the bathroom. He's fainted.

Your friend. I don't think it was a money thing. No, no, no. It was your time to pay. Cause we, what, what we did, we went, we went off and on your time to pay my time to pay your time to pay. And you always had, um, I blue guys see me out when it was your time to pay. It just seemed really convenient. I had convenience. See the, uh, right. And then it was like, get them orange juice, get them orange juice.

Give him a dog treat. No one knew what to do. When the check comes, he checks out. Good night. Yeah. Here's your orange juice and the check.

No, what happened was, Sherry, I think you live on Upper West Side. Mm-hmm. And I live on Upper West Side. And sometimes, Dana, we didn't get carded around like you, like Meghan Markle and Sherry at work every day. We didn't have cars at the party. We built the show back. You guys came and danced. We built the show back. Phil Hartman, ever heard of him? You built it from the ground up. John Lovett, ever heard of him? Yeah.

Yeah, we were, thanks to you. Thank you. We had a job and we, but we didn't get cars for sure. We didn't get cars. No, no, no. And it was really kind of dumb on NBC's part because we didn't know if we could get to work, you know, even on show day, no cars. It was like hailing calves. And so Sherry and I would try to strug and walk and I didn't have any protein bars back. This is the days we didn't have protein bars. So you had to carry like a plum in your sock.

So I didn't have anything to nib on and we got there and I was like, where's the goddamn food? And so we walked to Fiorello's in like Columbus Square and then I started to like drift. She's like, David, I'm like, hello darkness, my old friend. I started to like, I think I slide down in the booth and then I excuse myself to go blackout on the bathroom floor and she's like,

This is beyond diarrhea. It's been about 25 minutes. What's happening? And then I think you sent a waiter in. Yeah. And he was like, I guess you're going to have to pay, Miss Oteri. He's still faking it. No, no, no. Your friend is on the floor. And I go, um...

can you go in and get them off the floor? I mean, I love that. That was his, you know, it was like, hello, that's not normal. We didn't plan on him going on the floor. Yeah. He's all right. Yeah. And then you came out. I, I, I, I, I, and it's like, I need orange juice. I need orange juice. And yeah, I'm like, oh my gosh. I had some really funny, funny used to say to me, I remember you go to me.

Hey, Cheryl, watch this. And we would be at like a bar and you would go up to a really pretty girl and you would go like this. You would say, excuse me, don't I know you from somewhere? Wait a minute. Aren't you an actor? Wait a minute. Aren't you? You're really famous. You've been in movies and you're really popular. Wait a second. You wait. I'm sorry. That's me.

No, it was. Yeah. Okay. I'd sometimes go away. Let's break this down. Are you on a big TV show? Yeah. Or is that me? All right. Yeah. It was something like that, Sherry, but thank you for exposing my, Oh my God. Make me laugh. And you always epitomize to me the kind of guy that you say, Oh, Sherry, I can't wait for you to meet my girlfriend. It was grown going out with, she's so funny. And then I would meet her and she just giggles at everything you say. Oh,

Oh, I met a few of those. Honey, that's not a sense of humor. I'm like, Sherry, you're funny. This one's a dial tone. That's called a girl that feeds your ego by laughing at everything you say. And if her boobs shake when she laughs, she's a riot. Ha ha ha.

All right. We're about to go to a test pattern because this isn't going the right way for me today. Well, David had five years on the show by the time you met him. And so he was a kid in a candy store. He was famous for the first time. And like Mickey Rooney told me, money makes you handsomer. So that's what happened.

But back to Sherry O'Terry, our guest today, superstar cast member of Saturday Night Live from 1995 to 2000. Go ahead. I play kind of the DJ. Wait, Dana. Before that. Yes. First of all, you're from Philadelphia? Yeah.

Yeah, right outside of Philly, the suburbs. Actually, Greg, who I was talking to earlier, we were talking about Philly and all the people that came from my little town, Upper Darby, besides Todd Rundgren. Oh, Todd Rundgren? Super fan. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Did you see that documentary on him? Yes. That was great. Was it called Mayor of Easton? No. No.

I hung out with him a few times at SNL and at his house in Sausalito. Really? Yeah, I got to know him. My brother and Mike Myers' brother are both Todd fanatics. Mike Myers' brother wrote a book about Todd. Really? Yeah, the definitive history of Todd Rundgren. But anyway, that was a very talented neighborhood you grew up in. Todd Rundgren, you. I'm Tina Fey. I'm so surprised, though, that all the songs he wrote...

Sometimes you just fall upon a documentary and you're like, all right, I'll watch this. And you're blown away. I did not know he wrote that. I didn't know he wrote that.

Yeah, he was really a prolific songwriter. Is that why you sound like we can't understand you is because you're from Philadelphia? You got such a strong accent. Yeah. What is the Philadelphia accent? I mean, I like what she goes, Aaron's juice. Aaron's juice. No, it's, you know, the whole thing is when I call a friend who had the recording, I

Oh, God. Telephone recording. Hi, we're not home at the moment. Leave a message at the sound of the tone and we'll get back to you.

It's not an attractive. It is not an attractive accent. And they leave off the G's and I N G. Yes. So I was talking, we were walking, talking. It's not an attractive accent at all. How does it, how does it blend in with long Island? Cause it feels like to my ear, they're very close relatives, but it's different.

I'm telling you, the suburbs, it's like a lazy vowels. They just jumbled the vowels and believe that some continents are continents, continents, continents, continents, Scottsdale Community College are not needed. Like the G's in I.N.G.

What's your favorite accent to do? Dana's lazy bowels. What's your favorite accent just to inhabit, like in life or hanging out with friends? I love doing Southern. Southern. Which one? North Carolina or Texas or...

I don't even know where I am on the Southern accent. Just fun. Sounds fun. But I just absolutely love doing Southern accent. Can you give us a little bit right now? I'll do one to start. Well, you guys both did Ross Perot, I think. No, Dana did Ross Perot. You did a hysterical. I copy everybody. Dana, I copied you.

But you were so funny and I believe it started a pattern of where women, especially now on Saturday Night Live, are allowed just to play the men. And that was the first time I remembered that.

a political figure that almost was president. Then I left and you played him, which I thought was a very cool thing. And then Lauren brought you back to play him again. And I'm like, did I not do well? You know, but I was just kind of, I loved doing it. They had all these prosthetics on me and I'll never forget. Janine Garofalo was at that show and she goes, and I had all this energy and all these prosthetics. And she goes, you know, and the bald head, she goes, you look like one of those kids with progeria. Yeah.

Bajiria? Bajiria. Do you know what that is? She goes, now go get them. I just learned about alopecia, so I'm just trying to learn all these different things. Alopecia! That too. Alopecia, alopecia, potato, potato. That's when someone in the South gets it. It's alopecia. Yeah.

That's what it's different down there with that kind of thing. I'm going to stay in a Southern accent while I interview for the rest of the show. But should we keep going on SNL or just find out a little bit about how you got on SNL? It's up to you, David. You're the co-host.

Well, Sherry has a long past before SNL. I do like the Philadelphia stuff. And then I didn't know if you went in with Will Ferrell. Did you have cheerleaders? Are those things down already? No, no, no. We came up with them at SNL, but we did both come in from the Groundlings. The same year, 1995. And you knew him at the Groundlings? Yeah, we performed together. Yeah.

Okay, so was anyone else dragged with you guys when you got hired? Chris Kattan and Jennifer Coolidge. Oh, shit. We were all on the same show at the Groundlings. And Kattan came the exact same time as you to SNL? Yes, but he didn't get hired the same time. Oh. Yeah, didn't he come a year later or something? No, yeah, but...

you know it was at that time it was 50 50 as far as um nbc and lauren having deciding you know the cast on really yes oh wow that's interesting votes seem like lauren always i don't know i don't know how they did it but they they wanted to be in agreement they had to be in agreement all right marcy raise your hand everyone who liked chris katan

Okay, that's one, two, three. Now, Scott Sassa, how about your group? Scott Sassa. Scott Sassa, what about your group? That's pretty much what it was. Sherry, Will Ferrell, is there anything there? And you know what? The two sketches that I wrote that Will and I were in, he said, I'd like those on the –

He had me do, I had written a sketch with called like an eighties prom sketch. And he wanted us to do that on the first show with Mariel Hemingway. It didn't work out with to write Mariel into it. So he said, just do it yourselves like the next week. And then the other thing was I had written a kid in a cockpit at the groundlings and I cast will and,

And the funny thing was, was I said to him, you know, his name was Captain Chase. And the strangest thing was when I got SNL, I ended up doing that when Chevy Chase hosted. And I'm like, I had to change the name of the captain.

Because it was actually his name. And I remember I said to him, this is really strange, but when I originally wrote this at the Groundlings, it was Captain Chase. And here I am all wide-eyed. It was Captain Chase and I had to change it because you're really Chase. Yeah.

Well, what was Kid in a Cockpit? What was that sketch? It was just a kid that, you know, got to be, to go visit the cockpit and she was a pain in the ass. And yeah, and the pilot did not win any parts. Why is it so funny? All your characters are a pain in the ass, by the way. They're all. None taken. No, it's pretty funny. I like, when this football's in my yard, I keep it now. Yeah.

Which one is that? That's the Italian woman on the porch. It's every woman who polices the street in the neighborhood. It's so fucking hysterical. I used to laugh my ass off at that.

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Are they sketchy like they say, or you don't see that? Well, I worked at A&M Records. Like I moved to LA to get in the music business and I worked in publishing, Alma Worving Publishing, which was owned by Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss. And to me, A&M Records was the Camelot of the music industry at that time. And it was my dream. Like they had alternative music.

artists before that could never get on the on the radio because they didn't have alternative radio stations at that time. And but they signed them anyway. And so I was like, wow.

And then I started working in the publishing company for a year and a half. And I remember a woman saying to me, like all my life, people would say, oh, you're so funny. You should do stand up. And I couldn't see myself doing stand up. I couldn't see myself being myself in front of people. And so someone said, oh, you should do the groundlings. I go, well, what? Yeah.

What's a growling? I go, what's a growling? And they go, oh, it's an improv troupe. I go, what's improv? What is this God you speak of? And I'll never forget going. I looked in the yellow pages.

And I found the, you know, the growlings. I went down and, and I am telling you, I walked in there and I saw all the pictures of people of Phil Hartman, of, of John Lovitz, of Lorraine Newman, of Peewee, of Paul Rubens. And, and just all of these people, I'm like, Oh my God, what do they do here? And then I started seeing shows and I was, and I was hooked, but I had,

Then I moved over to the record company. I was doing promotion, rock and pop promotion, working in there and the whole time doing the Groundlings. And I just thought I have the best of both worlds. I can be

work at the A&M records and then be creative at the groundlings never would have dreamt as big as what had happened. You're so you're in the daytime. You're, you're prepping like a meet and greet for REO speed wagon. And then at night, no, I didn't. I was pretty much, it was radio promotion, but it was the funnest job. And the funniest thing is when I got SNL, everybody's like, so no more free CDs. And I was like, Jesus Christ, can you pretend that you like me? Yeah.

Sherry, can I ask you a question? So when you got into the ground lanes, usually you take classes, you build up and stuff. When did you like, did you find, when did you kind of go, geez, I'm really good at this. I mean, when did it turn for you? Cause it was at the first time. When people did I, when people like, because it's a long process, you start out at basic and then you're judged, you know, after whether you can move up or whether you have to repeat or you get dropped.

Then you go to intermediate. It's the same thing. Then you do that for months and months and months. Then you're judged. You repeat, get dropped or move up and then and then and then and then advanced. And that was a two year process. And I just thought I thought like I'm doing well when people that I thought were good were being dropped.

Oh, and you were being advanced. So you're kind of going, I must be good if that person's dropped and I'm not. Well, I just, the great thing is that I had gone for me is I always thought myself first.

the worst person in the class. And the great thing about that was I had no attitude. The only way to do go is go up from there, you know, because I didn't have any kind of acting background. And I remember meeting everybody and they all had headshots and they were all talking about the business. They were talking about the business. And, and, and, you know, I was just like, Oh my God, I'm just happy to be here. Like I really did not,

think I was going to be an actress or it was going to... I mean, I just thought it was a dream to be a groundling. And it was. Like that was your ceiling. Yes. For sure. Yeah. That was like me in the standup. I never thought of it. So you didn't do anything. Sorry, David. Anything in high school or sketch or anything? No. You just came out of the blue. Groundlings. My God. And then that's your training. And I did take some classes outside of the groundlings once I was in the groundlings just to get a taste of like...

you know, other forms of, of, of, of, you know, of classes and, and, and cold reading classes, stuff like that. But I took to it. Like I'd never taken to anything in my life. I, it was like the clouds parted and I found the,

my place. And so I was like Tracy Flick. I was there early. I left late. I had my hand up. I was in awe of everything, in awe of everything. I was never so excited about, like I couldn't sleep at night after class because either I did well and I was so excited or I did bad and I couldn't forgive myself. But

You only learn when you don't do well anyway. So it's kind of like, remember, you're in class, you're in class, you're in class, you're in class. And I remember I had to repeat intermediate and it was the best thing that ever happened. And then I remember my best friend at the time worked in the box office, Mike Sweeney, and his sister was Julia Sweeney. And I found out that she had to repeat intermediate. And I'm like, oh, that's so cool.

We're both repeating. Repeaters. And how did your style evolve before you got on SNL? When did you first know you could throw your voice with an accent and an impression? Were you doing those with friends? I never did impressions, but I always, to me, I copied. Like as a kid, I would watch television and then I would copy everything I saw. Sure.

And who was your muse? Was it Carol Burnett? Was it? Yeah, but no, I copied soap opera people. Oh, okay. Because I was very, very intrigued by the civility of

It was such a contrast from how I was growing up, where the TV was on 24-7 and you had your mother screaming, I wish I was dead all the time. Wait a minute, is that real? Yeah. Or rough and tumble. Yeah, very, very chaotic and just...

so unhinged. And I just love soap operas because of the civility of everybody. They're so dignified. Yeah. So dignified. And I used to imitate them all the time. Hilarious. I would actually set up on our radiator a makeshift bar because back then in like the 70s,

in the soap operas they would come in and go straight to the bar there was never a TV on in the soap operas right and so I would make up a makeshift bar and have Kool-Aid in a vase that you could see through that was my carafe and then I would have ice and tongs to put and then when my mother would walk in I

I would stand the way the camera shots, you know, how in soap operas. Sort of open out. The camera comes in and then the person is talking to them from the back of them. Like a rack focus. Yeah. Kind of. Right. So I, my mother would come in and I go, oh mother, you startled me. Mother, you startled me. Yeah. And she would go like this. Who the fuck are you?

left the door open with the air conditioner on. And I would go like this in my mind, cut.

God. So your survival mechanism was to almost live inside a soap opera. I lived inside and no one knew what I was doing. It was really just myself. And then I would watch like little house on the Prairie. I'd go upstairs, put my hair in flats, you know, in braids and they get on my Prairie pajamas. And I would come down and my mom would be in the kitchen. I go, ma,

when's pa coming and she goes what i go when's pa coming home and she goes i don't know but you better have fucking money cut so it was like okay my dad didn't live with us so it was like whatever you know and in my mind i was constantly cut because it wasn't going to what you wanted it wasn't going like a tv show you can't curse on tv and i'm just and she and then i remember i would watch like

The Ten Commandments was just on the other night. Oh, the movie? The original? Yeah, because it's Easter. Easter is coming. And I used to live for the Ten Commandments. And

And I would be watching it and I'd go in the other room. My mom and her friend are smoking cigarettes and, you know, talking and I would get a ladle and I would give it to fill it with water and give it to my mom and say, mom, can you hand this to me? And she's like, what, what do you want, Sharon? I go, just hand it to me. And then my mom's friend would say, honey, I'll hand it to you. And I go, no, no, no. And my mom go, I'll hand it to you. Just give it to me. So she would take it and then she would hand it to me and I would drink it down really fast. And I go, you are kind.

I will dwell in this land. And she goes, dwell in the other room. Have you done a one woman show about this relationship? It's so good. And then my friend, I would say to my mom's friend, you are strong. You stood up to the Malachite.

- And so you were kind of like-- - Do you remember that from-- - Well, I just know the Cades, I actually read the Bible after I saw it when I was like eight or something. I started reading the Bible for a while after I saw it. - Wow, are you serious? - Oh yeah, I was just like, maybe this is true, man. This looks pretty real. I was like seven. It was like a documentary to me.

I'm going to get to the bottom of this religions thing and I'm going to open the book. He's like, it's a Bible real thing. And then he goes, oh, there is one at the library. Let me delve into this a little bit. Dana, that's adorable. And years later, just a flash, which I want to ask you too. I'm with Charlton Heston on SNL and Lawrence wants to get him to do church chat, church lady with Moses.

And he didn't want to do it. We're kind of pressure. I didn't want to pressure him, but he goes, this is awesome. It's so surreal. Those kinds of things. But back to this, I just want to couch this for a second. So your mother's, you probably love, love her. She's very aggressive. There's a lot of tension in the house. You escape into these shows and use three-dimensional props to kind of become a part of these calming shows. Um,

The Ten Commandments. Did you have a crush on Michael Landon? I was going to ask because wasn't he sort of a teen idol in a way for a while? Yeah. Little House in the Prairie. No, I mean, did I? I like the blind girl. I thought it was. David's like, what I could have done with that chick. She couldn't see that I'm not that cute. I would just tell her I was. Not with that lady.

Not with this lighting. You can't see him, listeners, but David's got gothic kind of lighting on him. My hair looks cool and no one believes me and I don't care. I'm going to the wall with this. We have great hats. You have a hat on. Well, because I was throwing you guys off because there was so much shade on my face and lighting it looked crazy.

So, Sherry, this is so interesting. I'm just so, you know, when I think about you as a performer, just the word that comes in is committed. Not as a woman. Well, as a woman, that's a whole other, that'll be our second hour. We'll delve into your sexuality and everything, you know. No, you're very attractive. You know, Sue me and I adore you.

But were you as committed? I mean, you're so committed. You're watching these shows, little kid. You got props and you're talking like biblical characters to your mom. What the fuck are you doing? I so love you, mother.

how did this inform you as a performer? I mean, obviously you developed an ear and you're theatrical, but you'd never done anything official till you go into groundlings. And then how many years into that were you in the main company and ready for SNL? How long did it take? Um, I did two years of classes and then two years in the Sunday company writing and performing every Sunday. And, uh,

And then I got into the main company. I was in the main company for a year and a half. And I would say that SNL was my first job. Wow. And that was, you were prepped enough, right? Because you were doing pretty much exactly SNL, pretty much. Yeah. I mean, I just kept the same kind of writing and just kept going.

there's you know i learned the difference between theater and television i remember writing something in uh in the groundlings that that did really well but it died and i remember and i remember um quin colin quinn saying sure i don't know if this is going to come off the way it did in theater because

When you talk out in theater on a stage, the audience can imagine the fourth wall. If you do it on television, you just look crazy if you're talking out. You know what I'm saying? And I did not know the difference between that. And I remember it was Kevin Spacey and I had done this character where she has a party every year, the same party. And the only two people show up, but she acts like there's a lot of people there.

She says all the things that you say when it's a really packed party. You know what I mean? Did you find parking? Excuse me, I just got a request. The keg is beat. A young party. The keg is beat. We've got to put, I'm going to pass a hat around. And all

All these things. And I did it with Kevin Spacey and it just died because of what he said, because a lot of it was me talking out to people that weren't there. And it's kind of confusing. But and then I remember Lorne always saying,

Sherry, do you know where your camera is? And I thought it was a trick question. I go, yeah. No, you don't. Because the people at home would like to see the people at home would like to see you too. And I didn't even know what he meant. But and after that, it was like.

okay, oh, that one's my camera with the red light. Like I would just play the audience. I never played to a camera. I didn't know to play to a camera. Right. Interesting. And sometimes you knew it, so you might go off the cards because you're sort of just performing something you already knew. Right. I'm performing the way I did at the Groundlings, like as if it was a stage. And I remember Chris Farley saying to me, you know what, Sherry? I just, I, he said something to the effect of, I just pretend like I'm back at home.

Second city. And I don't even pretend. I don't even think of the cameras. And I was just like, yeah, you can do that, but I get in trouble for it. I thought you gave me the opposite advice. Yeah.

Yeah, opposite man. You made it work for you. I get in trouble. But you, to me, were kind of Carvey-esque because your characters were very committed. They were a lot of energy. I know, I'm flattered. And you'd come up with these new characters. You know, we only did a year, but after I'd left and I'd watch...

And I go, God damn, she just keeps coming up with shit. And it's so hilarious. And they were really clicking. And what did you do? Five years? Yeah. And did you, you walked away or did you want to stay or what did you do? Oh, I left. Yeah. That's what happened. Enough of it or what was it? Well, it just, you know, you really have to have a thick skin. And, and as much as I love the work and could do the work,

it I did not have a thick enough skin at that time but I want to say something I remember my first year I was well into it I think and someone I got a phone call and they go Sherry Dennis Miller's on the phone and I had never had anybody famous call me or anything like that and I I was like

People famous don't just call other people, you know? And then the funny thing was, was he had no idea of this, but his off white album, when I was in Philadelphia, I had it memorized. It was the funniest album. And not that I listened to albums. I heard it by accident from someone else. And I remember I was working at a, at like a college bar downtown and I,

We had live music and before the soundcheck, they were playing his album. I was crying. I was laughing so hard. Yeah. Crying to where I turned all my friends on to it and we just constantly would quote it. And then here he's calling me.

And I'm like, I pick up the phone and he goes like, he has no idea that I know that album by heart. And it always sounds like such bullshit when you say, oh, I'm such a fan. Right. You know what I mean? And then he goes, this is what he said to me. Sherry, I just want to say you got commitment like Carvey. Wow.

And I'm going to tell you, I was so, so flattered because Dana, like I always related to you and the characters that you did, like and your ability and your commitment. And I'm just like, God damn, like he's so freaking amazing.

good and funny. And even when you did an impression, it didn't, I didn't like any impressions that were so dead on that you were like, after five minutes, you're bored of it. You would do a take.

of somebody. And that was way more entertaining than somebody to me nailing it. You would do a funny take a twist on the character that made it so much fun to watch over and over and over again. And then when Dennis said, you've got commitment like Carvey, I tell you, I know I cried because first of all,

He has. And then I started saying to him, you don't know the off white album. And then I started quoting it. And, you know, I think he was like, oh, that's nice. That's nice. Wait a minute. What? And I was quoting it, quoting it, quoting it. That's exactly how if people ask me, what do you say to a celebrity? And I said, find something very specific to say to them. Besides, I'm such a fan. And that, Dana, is what I learned about him.

doing when, when Lauren, the best thing that he ever did was make me do Barbara Walters, because I remember I kept saying, no, I don't do impressions. I don't do impressions. And then when I knew I didn't have a choice, I started listening and watching her over and over again. And not just her cadence in the way she spoke, but she had a style and what she would always do is when she would interview people, she would give them three specific compliments specific. Yeah.

Because when you're specific, a person feels heard. It's not just you're so talented. It is when you did this.

When you did that and then all of a sudden that person opens up, they feel safe, they feel respected and seen. And then she can go into now why the porn? So but she just knew how to make somebody lay on their back and expose their stomachs so that she could go in and kick him in the nuts.

Yeah, always looking for that angle and to get them to cry. Let me pet, it's like a dog. Let me pet your belly. Oh, look at that belly. Look at that belly. And then nuts. Nuts shot. Nuts shot. How were you, just for a second, about having a thick skin? And by the way, everything you said about me is greatly appreciated. That's so sweet. And I want to go down a list of your characters, which are brilliant and intense characters.

But how were you? Cause we talked to other cast members and they really had to battle their nerves when they first came in. Just, just panic attacks, drenched in sweat. How, how were you that first season in terms of fighting that fear? No, no. The first season I thought was great because we all came in at the same time. I mean, you remember NBC did a clean sweep and it was just David that they kept and Norm and, uh,

Yeah. I mean, they did a clean sweep and I think Steve Korn was a writer that they kept. So everybody came in at the same time and there was this appreciation and energy and we just all hit the ground running. There wasn't anybody that was sitting around intimidating, you know, and wonder if you're going to take their spot or anything, you know what I mean? It was just like, you just, we all came in appreciative and,

So my first year was not difficult. I just kept doing what I did at the Groundlings. And Sherry, wasn't it kind of like you were all the starting blocks together instead of like I came in and Mike Myers is already way ahead of me. Dana's way up there. So you're really just trying to. We were starting first grade at the same time. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that does create a different vibe. I had that with Phil and Jan and Kevin. It was a beautiful vibe. It was like we were wide eyed.

and so appreciative and all nervous. We didn't know to be scared. We were nervous. We learned later to be scared. So when, what was your first, what was the first one that clicked? First show? The cheerleaders with Will? No, it was, you're not, I don't know if you're going to remember this, but it was, I remember saying to Molly, I go, you remind me of a young Ann Miller.

And then I said, Oh yeah, I remember this sketch. I remember her doing Ann Miller. Yeah. And then she's like, I go and cable had just started coming out, people doing cable shows. And I'm like, wouldn't be funny if we had these two older, you know, women who now have a cable show, but they still had that same mentality of when they were in, you know, and you were Debbie Reynolds, maybe, right. I was Debbie Reynolds. It was called leg up. And it was on the very first show.

And it did. I remember Lorne calling me into his office and go, Sherry, what demographic are you going for? And I'm just like, we're trying to get younger viewers. Yeah. And I and I go, I didn't think about that.

Like I never thought about think of the funny first. Yeah. And I go, I have a feeling that even if they don't know who they are, they still might like it. No. A thousand percent. It's just clueless people going for it and being self. And then we were on the cover of like Washington Post or something like that.

Oh, really? As those two characters? Uh-huh. And then I really thought, I remember Daryl Hammond saying, the gay community in Hell's Kitchen love you guys. Like, they were loving, I think, like, whatever we thought was funny, I think it was connecting with...

the gay community and they are a tough audience and they're an appreciative audience. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. They had a struggle and you know, it's kind of like,

They've got a sense of humor. They have a sense of humor because of their struggle. And it's like whenever, you know, I love it when gay guys will come up to me and they always say the same thing. They never say the cheerleader or anything. They always say the prescription drug lady. Oh, that was hysterical. Oh, yeah. That was intense. Yeah. And I, and like, you know, you have people in your family that you do a take of. It's not normal.

And I had an Irish Nana that would, was taking prescription drugs. Like,

All day, everything. And back then, they were in a bejeweled box. You know, you didn't hide your pills. Yeah. You presented them. It was like a Faberge egg. I would say, Nana, can I hold your pill box? Because it was so bejeweled and beautiful. All right, be careful. And then we would play a game of what each pill did. And I go, this is for sleep. This is for pep.

Speed was just pep. This is for, you know, underselling it a bit, but yeah. Yeah. And this is what I could never think of what it wasn't because water weight, water weight, water weight. And she goes in, the doctor says, that's all this is. That's all this is. And then back in the seventies, when someone got high at your house, your only job was to walk them to the car.

And I remember my mom saying, and she would have a beer. She'd be drinking beer while she was, you know, yeah. And then she would go, my Nana would say, I'm leaving. No one's paying attention to me. So I would go upstairs and I go, mommy, Nana's leaving. She said, no one's paying attention to her. She goes, all right, we'll walk her to the car. And I go, mommy, she goes, what? I go, should Nana be driving? And she goes, don't be fresh. Just go walk her to the car.

Whenever you said as a kid, anything that made sense. Made sense. That made your parents responsible for their actions. Don't be fresh. And I'm like. Watch your mouth. I didn't think I was being disrespectful. And I would literally, she'd be hanging on me as if I was a walker and I'd put her in the car. And I'm just thinking to myself, I don't know why this feels so wrong. Let's get those hands on the wheel. And you put her hands on the wheel. Let's start your car. Hey.

And she already came with it half on the curb, half off. She was already high when she got there. And so I just thought to myself, I remember my mom getting a phone call one day. What do you mean she wrapped it around a tree? That's impossible. My seven-year-old walked her. Is this real? Or is this, was this on Saturday Night Live? This is so fucking funny. The Sherry's deadpan delivery of these is the funniest part of the whole thing. I'm a nibbler, Dana. And I think you are too, but you always know me that I just have to keep the energy going. Um,

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No, but I think like all those things stuck in my head. Of course. Because you think, why am I thinking this? Why am I not just going along with everything looks normal? Because when people are drunk or screwed up when I grew up,

No one, I didn't know what it was, you know? So you just think they're being weird or goofy or funny. It was crazy uncle so-and-so. When people were drunk or alcoholics when we were kids, they were just called crazy whoever. Oh, crazy uncle Joe's coming over. Oh, good. Yeah.

Crazy Uncle Quaaludes is coming up. When you come out of your room at night and you would see that they've formed, them and their friends have formed a dance rumba train and they're just utterly smashed. It looks just like fun. That's when they were gone. And that's when every older woman peed when she left.

because the dance rumba train no that my i remember my nana she peed when she laughed and it was like great like i just thought to myself so she's wets herself she's stumbling and slurry and you're just guiding her to a 2 000 pound automobile full of gas but it was all water weight dana it was all hysterical water weight is hilarious so funny so my mom took those pills to water weight pills

Now it seems like you had to find comedy after hearing these stories and your childhood. It seems like destiny that you would be a comedian. I was by myself a lot. I really didn't know how to make friends. And so I became my own. I would just create. And I was just using my imagination to kind of fill up

What wasn't there? That's kind of like what Robin Williams says he used to do. It was just in the attic with toys playing and stuff as an only child. I did that. My mom was at work all day. My dad was not around, but I remember...

A lot of kids have that imagination where you're just making up things and doing things and just trying to kill time. And it's fun. It's kind of fun. It's not really sad. It's fun. It's not sad. I mean, I knew I was really lonely as a kid, you know, and spent a lot of time alone. And I just made the best of it. It's kind of like I would wake up, oh, it's the Sherry Oteri show. You know? No, it was sad. I'm going to counter that. It was sad. Yeah.

Well, we didn't know we were sad and we didn't know we were anxious. We didn't have a name for it, like depression or anxiety. Right. I would make myself laugh. I would make myself cry. And it was just kind of like I really had my own network.

I wonder if I'm going to play a drama or a comedy today. You know what I like is that first of all, in your Google, if you look at anything about you in Wikipedia, it says Sherry often plays characters who are upbeat, perky, or hyper. I'm like, that's fair. But I think when you say, let's say you're a kid and you're doing these

just flat soap opera character. They're very real, just very present and quiet and subdued. That's interesting you do that. And then you can also play characters where it's exaggerated and funny. Like, you know,

And you also say, you play characters like, it's always kind of based on someone you know. And then you just, like my brother, I used to do something and he goes, everyone makes fun of me because you said I was like that. I go, all I need is 2% of an idea. And then I just make it, I just go as far as I can with it to make it funny. And any character that is what someone would find offensive, the great thing is,

That person never knows it's them. Oh, yeah, that's true. And it gets so beyond them that it's so ridiculous to make it funny, like you said. It's kind of like the Italian woman on the porch. I kind of got a little bit of my grandma from when I was a kid, but she was never... She was always the nice one on the porch. Like...

She was very, very nice. And then I did my Nana very nice, but she wasn't very nice. Oh, right, right, right, right, right. It's kind of like... Well, you pick and choose and do like a research paper of a few people and make the funniest parts of each one. Exactly. And the kind of the parts that the audience, I think, will...

will take to, you know what I mean? You don't want to turn anybody off or depress anybody. And I always think to myself, I think I did characters that never knew how bad off they had it. Yeah. That's a good way to put it. There's an optimism because it's like, they have no idea. Like,

You know, that they were rejected. They're kind of tragic or something. Like Adele, which I watched this morning, the sex office flirt, or the sex worker flirtation woman, kind of fits that. She does not sense even a modicum of rejection. It was pretty wild. I mean, you just wonder sometimes, could that be done today, that character? Just because it was intense. But it's so ridiculous.

Ridiculous that I think and it being a woman makes it, I think, a little easier for the audience to digest, because when I remember I said it to Chris Parnell for like two years, I go, Chris, you know, you should do this character because.

Chris was so sweet. And, and, but boy, did he do innuendo? Like, I'd be like, Chris, can you hand me a pencil? Oh, I'll hand you a pencil. And I'm like, geez, Chris, like you can find sex anywhere. Like anything. And I just, it just made me always think of that because he was a very serious, nice, nice,

And yet he had that side of him that wasn't even offensive or salacious. It was just you just noticed it and you just kind of like pretended, you know, OK, that caught me off guard. But and then I thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny if then.

Because when the person doesn't react to innuendo or a sexual thing, then you explain it to them as if that's why they didn't react to it. No, I didn't react to it because I wanted it. I wanted you to stop. I didn't want to encourage it. I want, you know, but I love the fact that.

Okay. You didn't understand. Let me explain it to you. I'd like to wrap my hands around. Yeah. This pencil is like a penis. Yes. And it was forward thinking because. Sherry, you did a Dana. Yeah. I used to be on a show called just shoot me while you were out, you know, doing whatever you were doing. I did a guest spot. Oh, that's right. I didn't get an Emmy nomination. Like someone I know. Oh,

Oh boy. We have two Just Shoot Me scores. I mean, talk about coming and score. Sherry and Dana. And Dana, you should have. And Sherry, you did. No, Sherry was better. But tell everybody, you were an assistant to, was it Maya? Yeah.

Yes. And, you know, she was awful. But I got to tell you, that experience to me, when I did that show, I just thought to myself, oh, my God, this is a cakewalk. Like, I just thought that was the first sitcom I did. And I was like, my God, no matter what, you're going to be written for. Yeah. That's what I thought when I got there. No matter what, you're not going to get cut.

At the end of the week, no matter what, you know, like you come in at 10 and you leave at three. What in the world? Like this is heaven. And then it's like, Miss Oteri, what would you like in your arm? Like, get the fuck away from me. Like, I'm like, what's your angle? What's your play? What do you want? Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, Sherry, that was when I got there and I just come from the hardest place like you did.

And then everyone's pulling for you and going, do you have enough jokes today? And I'm like, are you writing for me? And then they go, if you want to add jokes. So they're giving me jokes and then saying, add some if you want. And it just, it was a very nice feel. Not that Saturday Night Live was. Saturday Night Live is what it is. But then you go and you go, oh, I just got through bootcamp and this is easier.

Like you just can't believe that you're being written for. Yeah. Can't believe it. Like, you know, it was too when I got hired, when Lauren said we'd want you to continue writing. I felt so flattered. I was like so honored and flattered, you know, and what I didn't realize was like, oh, no, no, no, no. Honey, you have to write if you want to be on the show.

Yeah, were you a writer-performer? I was a feature player writer. What were you when you came on? Writer-performer. And you had a writer's credit as well? No, no, I didn't get paid. I didn't get a credit. Dana didn't either. I'm not bitter.

Oh, and honey doing my best of DVD where I don't make a cent off of it, you know, and I, but I, you wrote every sketch. Yeah, but I did get to, um, I'm sure there was other sketches written by other people. Uh, but you know, it's predominantly stuff that I, I wrote and I just thought to myself, wow. Um, I wanted to be a part of it, you know, but, um, yeah, you don't,

someone's like, oh, I'm going to buy a few of your CDs. I go, oh, no, no, no, just buy one. I don't make any money off of it. You know, you sign that away when you get the job. Sure. I was a writer. I didn't make a lot, but it pays dividends later down the line. Plus, you're known as a writer. I thought that was a very proud moment to be a writer-performer, but I didn't really...

want to write. I knew I'm going to write for myself no matter what, like Dana, like you. It was nice. I got a little extra. I didn't get much to be on. Right. And I was not cast very much at all either. You know, I was not cast. I wasn't cast in the Groundlings. I wasn't cast in SNL.

And, you know, and that trouble for me being cast follows me. And so that's why it's like, wait a minute, why am I treating life outside the groundlings and SNL any different than it was within? I have to write for myself, you know, for whatever reason, I'm not really ready.

cast maybe because I did a lot of characters I don't know well you know you did something in Grown Ups 2 and then we were just talking this morning how it was you had a barrette in here you had a crush on Sandler's character is that what it was yeah from high school and then you'd show up and you were obsessed with them kind of still yeah and that was like something that

might have been a little flatter with someone else, but you brought a lot to it and probably added to it. And just the way you performed it, it was, it jumps out. Thank you. Well, I will say it was already on the page, you know, and, um, maybe because they knew it was you, it's easier to, you know, no, I auditioned for that three times. Oh, you did. They didn't know it was me.

Listen to me, so jaded. They didn't know it was me. They didn't know. They didn't know. That's crazy. Well, and you, that was Dana. Part of the funny part was I think she had a barrette in her hair. She ran into Sandler at the store. Was he with his wife? No. But I was with my husband, Steve Buscemi.

And she's kind of hitting on Adam because reliving that they used to date. Yeah, as if. And there I am being another character that has no sense of rejection. Yeah. And he gave you a barrette or something when you were little and you still have it and you wear it every day. Yes, and I still wear it. Yeah. And he doesn't remember it.

It was great. Anyway, I love that. I like just shoot me. I have one other question. Now, listen, when you met Lauren the first time, did you have to wait when you go in that office? Yeah, I believe no matter if you're five hours early, you're going to have to wait whenever an appointment is made. Because I remember Marcy saying, Sherry, I think you should...

take a meeting with lauren and i go okay well why and she goes you don't have to get to know him better so you got to know each other and i go god that sounds yeah because but you're intimidated you know and yeah um and if you don't know what to say you don't want to waste his time and so i would go okay so i go to lyle hey lyle i'm going to make an appointment with lauren

Okay. Two weeks. Two weeks. And I go, um, he's, but I didn't, I'm like, wait a minute. He's here every night. Uh, and I go, okay. All right. Two weeks. It is.

And then two weeks goes by and now I'm getting a little more scared and scared. You know what I mean? Because it's building up. You could have just walked in the room and gone, hey, Lauren, how's it going? Right. But it wasn't presented to me like that. And I was nervous and intimidated. And then it's time for our meeting. And I wait for two hours outside his office. And then I'm a wreck.

I'm like two weeks. Now I'm waiting two hours. This wasn't even a meeting that it was my idea. By the way, he probably doesn't even know what the meeting is about either. No. And then finally, when I get in there, I'm like, I just didn't understand. I thought maybe he wanted to meet with me and, and, but he didn't. And I didn't.

So there was a lot of dead air. And then he goes, um, sure. You're the writers writing for you. I go, yeah, not too much. Well, Gilder used to bake cookies if that helps. And I'm like, but, uh, maybe I can get blow jobs. I'm not a baker. You said that to him? No, that was just me in my head. I wish I would've had that sense of humor. I was too scared to have a sense of humor. Something like a macadamia nut would be, Al Franken would eat the whole plate. So go ahead.

But I was just, when I left and I'm just thinking to myself, I feel like I just got kicked in the butt by Marcy. Like,

You just, he never wanted to meet with me. Maybe she was trying to help you by going, have you guys talked? But it turned into a whole thing and it turned into a whole disaster. Yeah, two weeks later, two hours later, and I'm like walking in with my legs shaking. I was like, my knees were knocking and I had nothing prepared. You walked out going, Lauren wants me to learn decoupage. I remember when it was Christmas and I thought, what do you get, Lauren?

And I remember getting him, I would really, really think about what I would get him. And then one time I got him a how to juggle kit.

because it cracked me up. It made me laugh. And so after I would always go, Lauren, how's the juggling going? Is it getting easier or are you getting the hang of it? As if he ever opened the box and it would just make me laugh. And it made him laugh, I think. No, I think that's very funny.

The trick is starting with one ball and just going up and down for a while. You know what I do? I lose them and then I use tennis balls and then it just gets all... Sherry, maybe next Christmas a fire-eating kit would be nice. Maybe a magic set.

I did get him one of those old fashioned candy machines, you know, that with the red, you put a quarter in. Oh, yeah. And it was awful of jelly bellies. I bought it and then I just filled it with jelly bellies because I know he liked those, you know, but I was always trying to think of something that, you know, what do you get somebody who you leave to wait in two hours and two weeks? This is wonderful. Marcy, can you put it in your trunk?

That's what I need. You could have got it for David because of the hypoglycemic thing. I need juice. I need juice. I was falling down right and left. We found out later it was stress-related. Anyway. Really? They couldn't trace it back to anything. Any shows you're working on? I'm like, I can't think of anything off the top of my head.

All right. Well, anything left for Sherry? She's been hilariously wonderful. My question is just, how did you feel on the show when you had the morning latte talk show with Will? You had cheerleaders. There was a period in your five years where you were...

Like everyone was talking about you. I'll just say, you know, Sherry Oteri, have you seen her? She's, you know, so funny. So did you get a little more relaxed during that time or did people start to write for you a little more? Cause there, you did, you had a lot of hits. Never. Um, uh,

I mean, once in a while I got lucky, like with the view, I didn't write the view. Um, but, uh, and I was always, Hey, do you want to know something funny? Um, I just got asked, I just got asked, and this is something I did not write. I was asked to do, and I was so scared to do it. Um, I don't know. I think Tina wrote it or something, but, um, they're doing a documentary on, um,

Robin Bird. Oh, wow. The late night porn talk show host in New York. Yes. Yeah. Public access. Yeah. I just remember thinking to myself, oh, you know, I'm watching, you see a talk show, you see this, you know, a rerun of an air girl or whatever the news. And then that channel would pop up and I'm like,

is this allowed? Like, this was wild to me. That was New York TV or something. Cause I was shocked. Midnight or one, two in the morning or something. Yeah. And I just remember thinking to myself, this is wild. And they asked me to do it. And I'm like, I'm not wearing a, a, a crochet bikini. That's not going to happen. So I cheated and wore bike shorts with a crochet top with the boobs already in it. And, um,

Yeah, so I was just asked, they're doing a documentary. And I was like, yes, I'd love to because I did meet her.

And, um, wow. Yes. Yeah. It was pretty, pretty cool. But, uh, I would say, um, yeah, that's something I didn't write. And, uh, I was like, okay, that's pretty cool. And morning latte. I just, one summer I just watched every morning show and I wanted to do a talk show so bad, but I didn't know what the hook would be. And I just, that was my favorite sketch to do was morning latte. Not that it was like, you know, the biggest hit or anything, but

because I loved playing these ill-informed, confident characters. Like so ill-informed, yet it doesn't throw them off at all. Cocky idiots. Yeah. Cocky idiots is always a great area to be. But I don't even think they were cocky. There was an innocence about them. And, um,

You know, Will and I had that same kind of sense of humor. And it's that optimism, you know, under, you know, just completely ridiculous circumstances of being ill-informed or rejected. Yeah, you both play that perfectly.

Wow. Is your TV on, Sherry? I'm sorry. Can I go turn it off right now? God damn it. So let's go back 15 minutes. So when you first got to the ground lanes, we'll just redo that. I'm kidding. It's fine. It's fine. They got magic. They can take anything out. Sherry O'Terry, you're so funny. Let me tell you something about Sherry O'Terry. Everybody loves her. She's the peak of Saturday Night Live. The characters are crazy.

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And that, you know, New Year's Eve show. And then you come out as Barbara Walters and literally dismantle the podium. I mean, it was so fucking funny. Did you write that? Or it was just went on and on and on. God, it was funny. I wrote it. I did write it because I had gotten so used to. And what I love about, you know, the age range of people

us and Anderson Cooper and, and, and is there an Andy Cohen is there's a nostalgia that they just love. And what I loved about doing Barbara Walters was there's nostalgia just within her for decades and decades yet. She's got to talk about what's currently going on. I did that. I did that two years in a row. And it was fun because I really had to think of, okay, well,

What is the recap of what happened this past year? What might she talk about? But then she always has to drop in who she thinks is impressive. You know, I was on a, you know, with, you know, and I always love saying, you know, grill master George Foreman.

Real master. You know, Madeline Albright. And then like, you know, who she thinks. And then I just love doing a bomb, a bombshell Lonnie green and, you know, and funny man, Shecky green. And we were all, cause you always just think about, you know, who she hangs out with and she was named jobs, political sports and pop culture and actors. And then, but then,

When they asked me to do it this past time, I go, I can't do Barbara Walters again. I got to be myself. But that was so scary. So what I did was. Yeah, they introduce you and you're a hologram or what was it? I mean, no, no, no. I was live this last year. I wrote something to be pre-taped because I didn't think they were going to. You know, I didn't want to fly. And New York, it was it was the worst part of the pandemic, I would say.

But so I had these crocheted. I don't know if you guys remember this in the 70s. They were like crochet dolls that you put over toilet paper rolls, spare toilet paper rolls.

So my friend's mother made a shitload of them in the 70s. And they were all pretty. And she gave me some. And I'm just thinking to myself as if I'm going to put these out. And I just thought to myself, wouldn't it be funny? Like if I'm trying to bring back the crochet toilet paper cozy and each one of them has a story. And each story was something that happened this past year. You know what I mean? Like I had.

I canceled Carmen. I had Christmas Karen. I had Insurrection Irene and Baroness Becky, you know, covering the whole royal thing of the past year. And it was so...

much fun to do, but I did it as a pre-tape because I had all these props. And I'm like, that podium up there is like eight feet by four feet. Well, you can also control a little better and you can do a few takes. You can get it, nail it perfectly or whatever. Yeah, but we didn't have, like, we didn't get to rehearse it. I rehearsed it once. Oh, you did it

Wait, you did it live, but you were home. No, no, no. I thought I was going to be able to pre-tape it. And then they said to me, like two weeks before I had already written it, Sherry, the boys want you there live. And I go, oh, I can't do this live. It's

It's props and this and that. No, they want you live. I can't do it live. And I go, I've got an actual toilet tank in this. And, you know, and then they go, we'll provide you with a toilet tank. I'm like, shit. So they did. I had a toilet tank on that thing. It was, but...

you know, it was really, it was fun. It was fun. It's really nice of those guys to kind of like give me that platform to be creative because, you know, you do miss that about SNL. It's like your mind can go anywhere. Right. You dream of, I don't mean to sound like a kid in Disneyland, but it's like, I never limited myself to what my mind would think, you know, it was shocking to go. I thought of the stupid sketch Tuesday and,

I'm sitting with the art department on Thursday and they're designing this dumb thing I thought of. And they're like so serious going, we'll make it perfectly like this. We'll bring this in. We can get it from New Jersey. I'm like for this stupid. Okay. It's, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I remember going down to, uh, to approve my actual house, you know, the, the, um, Italian lady on the porch. And it was, uh,

the exterior of a full house. And I was so in awe and overwhelmed that my, what I thought of has been built. And Keith, there's someone who's like, Hey, is this your vision? Is this what, this is kind of what we thought from reading it. And you're like, no, and they'll tweak anything for you. They were amazing. I mean, we had the most talented people behind the scenes. And even like when we would do the wigs,

The wigs were always so funny. When Molly and I did Leg Up, I'll never forget, we had this joke because our wigs got bigger each time we did it. And then we did it to a point where we were crying, we were laughing so hard. Our wigs were so huge. And it was appropriate, too, for those characters, but not that huge. Each time they got bigger and bigger and bigger until Lauren said...

The wigs are co-starring. Very Lauren. Exactly. The wigs are co-starring. It's just the thing of like, we really want to see the character, not just hair on top. Jerry's five foot eight with her wig. Could we please? Is it the wig sketch now?

All right. Thank you, Sherry. And thank you, Dana. You're the greatest. Sherry's a score machine. Score machine. To understand you. We never got to have dinner together or hang out, but you're so observant about your characters and that's what makes you a great writer. And you tease everything out. So yeah, we're like, you know, sister brother from another mother. So just appreciate you, girl. All right. I love you guys. Bye, Sherry. Love you guys. Love you, David. Bye.

Miss you, Dana. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, fleas? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyonthewallatcadence13.com. Now, one more question.

And then Dana gets to eat one of his four protein bars I brought for him. I feel sick. These are just candy bars dressed up as health bars. This is not something you should eat too much of. We're going to talk later. We're going to talk later. May cause diarrhea in an hour, but for sure will in two hours. I would like you to write down what you eat in a given week and let's get that GI problem you have. You have a lower GI problem. I can tell by looking at you. Why? And you need a liquid IV. Why?

Well, look at your posture. You're all pent up in there. You've got a little pooch. Come on. Let's talk later. What are we talking about? Look, I'm a health nut. I want to help you. I don't look bad, do I? Jesus Christ. Heather. I'm joking. I'm a comedian. Heather, get the elevator ready. Don't put me in the elevator. Not like last week. Block. Don't put me in the elevator. The elevator's about 120 degrees. I don't want to be in any elevator. This is Henry Fonda. See, now I'm doing it better. I like it. Fuck. Too late. Too late.

Too late, you did it wrong. That's the story of my life. Okay, we have a question from Charlotte Morris. Hi, boys. Charlotte Morris, hello. Why, you're a dessert for the eyes. You're a tall drink of water. I'm Charlotte Morris, and I have a question for you boys. Go ahead, David. She says, hi, boys. If you had to swap places with each other and star in one of the other's movies, which would you pick? Charlotte, from England. From England. You can hear this dog shit in England. I'm Charlotte Morris.

That's awesome. God, I wouldn't have worn this goofy hat if I knew we were over in Europe. If you'd like to do a character in the movie of Davids, what would it be? Is that hat all the rage? Why do you wear costumes? You look silly. You're never going to get a lass to fancy you. I would probably steal Dana in. I know. It's a perfect swap.

Yeah, what would we do? You would do Garth because you wouldn't even need to wear a wig. You had the long blonde hair and boyish face. Can I see the teeth? No. Say, party on, Wayne. Party on, Wayne. And I would do Joe Dirt. Oh, you want Joe Dirt? Yeah. Hey, I'm Joe Dirt. Yeah. You ever fuck a pig? Hey, well, I don't know if you saw it. It's not exactly...

It's um... Fuck if it gets a laugh in the room. Because it's not expected. Get your little squealer, come here. Come on. No, I'd do Red Redneckie, the redneck comedian, but I would substitute Joe Dirt. Yeah. You know, we do your catchphrase when we golf.

Red Redneck, the Redneck of the world's worst Redneck comedian. You ever crap so big you don't know gonna get down that toilet? Come and get some. You ever fart so loud you got a dog two state away? Go, what that? Come and get some. We do say come and get some. You make a putt, you go, come and get some. We go, come and get some. How do I make t-shirts? That's my best catchphrase. I seriously think come and get some because it's positive. It's not negative. But what was Joe Dirt's catchphrase?

Oh, Life's a Garden did it. How would he say it? Well, he would say what's crappin' in. What's crappin'? God, I can't remember. It's a little, it's a subtle southern almost, right? Yeah. I want to go, I'm Joe Dirt, I'd like to go meet my mama. Joe Dirt's a nice guy. Joe Dirt's a little Forrest Gump-y.

But how southern was it? Was it sort of subtle? Yeah. It wasn't super deep, but it was kind of like, man, this girl might be your sister. You can't have sex with your sister. Oh, I see. It was that guy. It was little Casey Kasem. I'm looking for my mama and my daddy. My name's Joe Dirt. Yeah. Do you know which way I should go? I already went that way. Are you fucking with me? All right, let's not make it too stupid. Which way is the dirt road? I know.

I do a character called Dummy Dirt. Hey, I got to take a crap. How do I do it? I'm Dummy Dirt. Can you put your finger in my bunghole and get one get going? I went hitchhiking. Next thing I knew, my bum was in my friend's bunghole. Does that mean I like fellers? No, thanks for just giving away the whole sequel.

Well, that's it. Well, we'll go out blue, England, for getting us canceled. Letting us ruin our reputations over there. I'd just like to say we got to start up our nuclear power plants in England. Michael Caine. This end of this podcast has not been his best. The hat's too funny. It doesn't make any sense. He's changing his costumes every two minutes. The whole thing's gone to crap.

I wouldn't listen to it another time if I were you. And a fly on the wall is not what it's about. I'm Michael Caine. I'm 111. Is he still around? Of course. Is he? Yeah, he is. He's good. Why? Are you offering me a movie? It's a yes. He does a lot of movies. Okay, thanks for coming, guys. I gotta run. Thanks for coming. I'm gonna stick around and check out the elevator of the mansion. Woo! Boo!

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