Mikey Day
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So David, where are you going on tour? Let us know. I'm still doing the Catch Me Inside tour. It's been a blast. I have Spokane coming up on the 16th. Great town. That's great. I got Palm Desert.

We got a lot. Tysons, Virginia, Richmond, Charlotte, North Carolina, New Orleans. Uh, is it New Orleans? New Orleans? Not now. Orleans down there. Now it's just nah. Nah. Orleans at the Orpheum. Um,

Orlando, Clearwater, Vegas with Nikki Glaser. Lots coming up. Just go to davidspade.com and get those. And thanks, Dana. I'm glad that you're interested in that. I would check him out. He's one of the funniest standups out there right now. It's a great show. Cheap tickets. Cheap, cheap. Rack them. Cheap, cheap. Rack them.

Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah, I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it.

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Visit roberthaff.com today. Hello, Dana. We'd like to tell everyone we are starting with Mikey Day today, who is a present-day

cast member, 10-year vet. We got to know him very well. I might have to say, I don't think we've ever had a sweeter or nicer person on the podcast. We've had many sweet and nice ones, but he was incredibly generous and curious about our careers, which was flattering, but also very self-deprecating. And we go over his

His tenure on SNL, and he's on there now, and he's got some amazing, what's the pumpkin sketch? What's it called? David S. Pumpkins. Sorry, David S. Pumpkins. He wrote, co-wrote a lot of great sketches on that show. We broke down a few sketches, but mostly talked about the overall feel there. This one was very SNL. And then his co-stars, we talked about us a little bit, which is...

Unfortunately. We kept bringing, you know how you throw a boomerang and it comes back to you. He was curious about us because he's maybe in the age group of,

when he was like a very small little boy. I was on the show. A baby in a crib watching us. He's the old war horse. He's the grizzled vet. He looks pretty good. Yeah, he looks pretty fresh-faced for being a grizzled vet. But I hope everyone enjoys it. We had a great time with him. Here he is, Mikey Day. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Sorry? We've had this so many times. The worst was Martin Short. I know, but...

Not again. It's happening. I'm like, I'm seeing my heroes on screen and then I'm hearing you guys do Lorne and I'm like, I want to participate in this bit and I can't get out. Well, what? Where are you? I'm in New York. I'm doing this

I was in this very small role in this Jerry Seinfeld movie and Netflix. Pop-Tarts. They're doing like a promotion. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. They're doing a promotional day and it's so funny because it's the only day I've had something. And because I've...

It's our two-week hiatus, so I've just been at home. And then, of course, the one day that I have this that I've been looking forward to, and I went through all my stuff in my home computer to make sure that I'd be good, and then the internet was failing, and I was like, oh, God, I see them. That happens to almost every person we do it, so don't worry. We don't need another hero. That's very nice. Can I ask you a question? Pop-Tart, if Jerry did that...

jerry seinfeld did i ever do jerry seinfeld's new album he's coming out vinyl go ahead it's a vinyl album comedy album jerry seinfeld and all is it picture jerry and it says paperclips why sorry paperclips dot dot dot yeah why but but the the thing is jerry as you know is uh

like he worked on his Pop-Tart bit for like years, right? And couldn't quite find the language. I felt like I found almost like an Easter egg of a fatal flaw in the bit. - Oh. - And this is what it was. Only about the standup, not the movie. That's why I'll be curious if he does the theme. The idea was when Pop-Tarts came, it blew right out of my head. Like the kids went, "This is crazy."

The fatal flaw, because I'm in the same age group, they weren't very good. What? Whoa. Shut the fuck up. No, that was a lot of, you put them in the toaster, very little jam or good stuff. And that was the fatal flaw. He was playing it like the kids were blown away. But no, compared to a Twinkie or Hostess Cupcake. Right.

They were like, let's go to the phones. Jerry's on line one right now. I disagree. That's so funny. Yeah. Hot take. I used to eat the plane. Really? But compared to like a hostess.

pie, you know, with the crust around it. Yeah. When I was a kid, those were great. I feel like they're a lot now, but I would, as a kid, would 100% go for Hostess or Twinkie over a Pop-Tart. Yeah, yeah. Pop-Tarts, that's fine. We had them, but I'd be curious because Jerry, the technician, he would have some answer for that. Well, in the Pop-Tart movie, when is it coming out? Let's just promote that. Yeah, why not? Just count it as press. It's in May.

I'm not here to promote that. That's fine. Throw it in the mix. I don't want you guys to feel like, oh God, he's got to promote his thing. No, promote everything. But it comes out in May. I just found out. No, not at all. No, what we do on this show is we vet and we shine a light on SNL cast members.

such as yourself, because it's kind of fun because we've been in the maelstrom. We've been in the war room. We know everything about it and you do too. So David, do you have a question for Mikey? Yeah. Do you know this Seinfeld bit? I was out the other night eating at a Chinese restaurant and we were laughing. It was all comedians and we were laughing at when he says, chopsticks.

They've seen the fork. And they're still... What? They've seen the fork and they're still sticking... Just out of spite, they're still sticking to chopsticks. It's very funny, Dana. He's fantastic. Jerry will bludgeon an audience in a good way. He will hit... Bludgeon. He'll go to the grocery store and just go around the store and have these amazing observations. And over time, you're just... My favorite of his was... So they...

The caribou, they can't get them out of the forest and they wake up and they're hanging from the helicopter. What are they thinking? I guess I can fly now. I'm doing...

I'm doing Ed Wynn as a substitute. It turned into, and you guys know who Ed Wynn is. Oh, I'm thinking of Paul Lynn. Who did Ed Wynn? Ed Wynn was like from the 1940s. He was kind of chubby as a little, had a little hat on. He go, whoop-dee-doo, whoop-dee-doo. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. Did I get it? Hey, Mikey, have you heard that when Paul Lynn came into a party in the seventies, he

He goes, smells like pussy in here, I think. That's true. That's fantastic. I think my friend was there.

Wait, did he do the Mad Hatter, Edwin? Oh, that was Paul Lane. Yeah, Theven. Yes. Theven. I think Adam Sandler had a little audio influence. Oh, yeah. Yeah, in the same frequency. 100%. I can't...

I'm fascinated. First of all, I love you both. Obviously, I'm going to be gross. Thank you, buddy. We'll take it. Thank you. I saw Clean Slate in the movie theater, Dana.

Fuck yeah. 94 by myself. I'm sorry. And saw, no, I remember enjoying it. And Black Sheep in the movie theater. I mean, Tommy Boy, obviously. Again, no one was there by myself. Black Sheep was great. Black Sheep. I'll tell you about Clean Slate. I didn't really know what I was doing, but anyway, in those days, you'd have dailies. So it was like 10 minutes of the movie, and so I'm in a theater, kind of by myself, I think, and I'm watching the dailies.

And I go, oh, it's terrible. How many weeks do I have left? Seven more weeks. It's irretrievable. Uh-oh. But everyone's got a dog in their house. Come on, man. But that's very flattering. You know, when we did a, we were talking about you a while back, and for some reason I had a mental hiccup, and I kept calling you Mikey Day.

Who are you calling on the podcast? It was in Bobby's. Mickey. I was calling you Mickey. I was calling you Mikey instead of Mickey. No, it's actually Mikey. No, I remember. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. It's because I worked with Mickey Rooney. I worked with Mickey Rooney. Oh, yeah. And that's what got in my head. So you were Michael. And how did you become Mikey? I know. I used the- It's a big jump. The child. I-

Devin Walker on the show was like, and are you sticking with Mikey in your adult life? You're not going to change it? I was always Michael. And then in college, people just started calling me Mikey and it just kind of stuck. But I think I remember...

my first year here, the first pitch meeting, Lauren kind of going, like, is this grown man going by Mikey? Is this what we're doing here? Do I need to call this grown man Mikey? But yeah, I thought about big Mike.

Have you thought about something? Does everyone do when they come on? Yeah, of course. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you have a little breath coming. You have a breathy. Oh, that's a new thing. Let's hear you go. Yeah. Yeah. Oh,

You look a little like Ed Sullivan. I'm sorry to go back to the 70s. I mean, I'm not. Yeah. You hear like Bill Hader's stuff. They're like, OK, later. There's that little quiet one is so hilarious. It was me, Jeff Dahmer. Celebrity. Yeah, we always like doing Lorne the bit of him being excited.

about stuff because he's so even keeled just oh my god did you oh my god did you hear like it's just audio imagining oh shit Beyonce is coming up everyone places yeah just about stupid nerdy stuff oh my god did you see the trailer for Deadpool 3 oh Deadpool 3 did you ever go to a Yankees game with him oh yeah once the Yankees games with Lauren are the best because it was like

uh it'll be you lorne and senator chris dodd and you're like what yes the very cool dude but it's you never know who's i had uh if you remember i think he passed away uh we're going and uh paul um and louis louis may louis mal the french director is coming with us you're like okay he's never seen baseball but

But it's a grand slam. It's like that thing of like the crowd's really going nuts. Would you like another beer? It's better than a home run because the bases, of course, are loaded. Well, it's the fourth inning. Should we leave? And it's like... Should we take off? Should we go? I was there once.

And there was a rain delay. So we were in like the restaurant area near the, those seats. But like, it was so crowded because everyone was in there and there's nowhere to sit. And it was weird just being like, I'm with Lauren and he has nowhere to sit. We need to fix do something. Yeah. Yeah.

And so these we were just sitting at this like large circular table with these very like Yankees fans, dudes. It was very surreal, but it was like two hours. And then they finally just canceled the game. Lauren's like, I see one bar stool. I'll catch up with you guys later. Deuces. Just drinks up at the bar slamming shots. Lauren? I don't know how you guys did the show before.

before like cell phones and text messages because the amount of information that you're constantly, especially on Saturday, did you just call each other's dressing rooms? I guess go. Yeah. And just visit people, I guess. I guess you need. Did you just talk to people? I know. Yeah, we did. I mean, we do that, but like throughout the week, like talking to props and stuff, like we need this and just the constant communication. I'll say the worst part, Mikey, was,

For those of you at home, the show is on the eighth floor. And not only are the offices on 17, but you still have to cross elevators, I think. So you have to go take two different elevators to get back to your office. And it was all day going back and forth because you couldn't text. If you call someone, they're never in their dressing room. So you have to go look for people. If you could text them...

God, the layer of stress of just anything. And Marcy Klein running around looking for Norm MacDonald or something. It's just all crazy. So I wish I had that. We didn't have computers, laptops to write our sketches. So we had to drive them in from home, hand them in on paper. I would write them longhand. Type it up. Longhand and hand them in. Yeah. You hand them in longhand and then they write, they type them. There was like a big stack or something. Cause I think I heard Mike Myers talking about

writing up Wayne's World and he said there was like a big bin or something of scripts and he would just he like

put it into the yeah which is crazy in the stack and then they would take it like mad men type it one at a time i think we were using hieroglyphics hey yeah and so we just did that and then you'd get your sketch and you'd get it before a read-through and you'd be like oh my god there's misspelling or they put the host name wrong or they put the and you're like it's too late we're in that's insane

Yeah, now you just drop it into the file and onto the server. It's all on the computer.

That's wild. Files and attachments are too much for me. I wouldn't know how to do that. We had a bulletin board. Look at the difference here. We had a small bulletin board with letters of the week, like maybe 10 letters that you could get feedback from the audience compared to what you guys have now. Oh, really? Instant social media. Oh, yeah. Instant people going, I hate you. There were some, oh, you should do this and that. But it was like 10 letters. That was it. A week that we just saw on a board. That was the only feedback. Wow.

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Yeah. And then went to UCLA and studied. Oh, did you have a dream? Did you have a dream of how that would go? And was that's no part of it. Or you just like want to be in show business and want to make a living doing this.

I mean, SNL was always kind of at the top, I would say. But it just felt so far away and unattainable. And then I started taking classes at the Groundlings. And there's so many pictures of their people on SNL.

And so it felt a little more attainable, but it still felt far away and the odds would be impossible. And then...

I went to college with Nassim Pedrod and Taron Killam, who were on the cast. Definitely. And then they brought me in as a writer. Suddenly Mikey doesn't sound so crazy. Exactly. Mikey sounds like a fox. It sounds like a Nickelodeon show. Nassim, Taron, and Mikey. Hey, everybody. It's Mikey. Hey.

Hey! It does feel very Nickelodeon. Whoa! On an all new Mikey. But they brought me in as a writer and then wrote for three seasons. Were you allowed to write for yourself? Pardon? Were you allowed to write for yourself? No, I was just a writer at the time. Isn't that horrifying? Didn't you start as a writer? Yeah, I was a writer performer, which is worse. It was like pretending I could write for myself.

but i really like a writer and performer yeah but no one's writing anything for me and so i have to write and then i wheeze myself in two lines and they're like what are you doing i'm like no i'm just i'm the teenager so they're like no mike myers can put a baseball cap on i'm like you're like uh okay i would go right for the cast i would go around sandler and spade would be in an office and i go guys guys come on anything this week

Come on. Exactly. You would. What do you got for me? Guys. What do you got for me? I'll just go around to the offices going, I can play kids. Yeah, exactly. No, you can't. Yeah. Can you do a Russian accent? Everything was like, they just poked their head in some good writer and be like, can you sing? And I'm like,

Sort of. Nope, took too long. You can't. I'm like, God damn it. They're like, can you do a whatever impression? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How are you with a pogo stick? I got that one. Yeah, yeah, I can do it. I can do it. Can you do it at the table? Would you guys ever...

do commit at the table to certain bits or would you always remain? No, we give it everything to stand up. I've stood up. I remember if you, if you stand up, it's kind of like, okay, it's a little bit of a swing. It's on. You better fucking nail it. You ever go to the piano and sing? People would walk over to the piano and I'm like, Oh my God, Cheryl would play. And I'm like, you better, this better be a home run. Yeah. Yeah.

You're like, ooh, it's mid-second half. I don't know. A piano bit. Mid-second half of read-through? Oh, my God. It's hour four. Yeah, we call it like dead man's curve, like second half. Okay. You light up on those last two, you're like, come into a close. That area. Dennis would just sit and watch us. Okay. Okay.

Moving toward the Ivories in the fourth hour of this extravaganza. Okay. Okay, babe. My impression of Dennis Miller is Dana doing Dennis Miller. I have a new Dennis Miller. That was that Dennis. Dennis now is sort of soft-spoken. Okay, I've got a couple shekels in my pocket. You want to go back there and visit the old team out in New York City? That's great, Carf. It's not something I'm really up for right now. All right. Bye.

Spudly, you see what I sold my house for? You might want to fucking Google it. Because as a kid, quoting you guys was like the cool thing to do on the playground. Yeah. And now my son quotes like weird Gen Alpha memes and stuff that make no sense. I feel like for adults, when we would quote SNL, like adults would watch SNL. So you had some context. You understood stuff. But now, like, I have no idea.

what comes out of my son's mouth sometimes. How old is he?

He's 11 and he just comes home singing like, you're my phantom tax. You're so skibbity. I'm like, what is this? At least I can quote buh-bye and you understand. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Buh-bye. Was Helen Hunt the first buh-bye? There's only two. Yeah. There's only two? Only two and it blew up like crazy. And the second one didn't even matter. It was Steve Martin, but-

we kind of fucked it up, but, uh, I heard you tried one where you said hello as the, as they're coming on the plane. Hello. No, that's John Lovett's. And goodbye. No, we did it once. And then it was on American airlines. They would play it for the flight attend saying, this is our reputation. We have to fix this. So every flight attendant might take a flight for 10 years. It'd be like,

Thank you. Thank you. I'm like, you're still saying fuck you. So it's all bad. Are we a buh-bye company? No, no, no, no, no. When you leave Burger King now on the door tapes, it said buh-bye. And I'm like, no. Buh-bye. Now, did you write that one? What do you guys say? I wrote that with Fred Wolf. Yeah. Oh.

I wrote that with Freddie Wolf. Fred Wolf's great writer was on there. Were you like out of town and you were on the plane? No, it was his idea and he came to me and I'm like, oh, this is just a joke machine. You just put every cast member comes through, say something. Everyone gets some screen time. It gets a little more heated as you go. And Helen Hunt looks perfectly innocent. Perfect one to do it. Yeah. Bye-bye. Do you feel, I have a question, Charlie. Sorry, sorry. It's my face here.

Charlie Fenneman was on the, his name is right in front of my face. I'm not crazy. He's just one of our producers. How was the interview? Dana called me Charlie the whole time, but I didn't correct. But it is on the screen. I'm just curious that you now, you're there, and I was looking at the new cast,

And just this whole thing that I didn't have that much. The new guys came in, then I left. But this turnover, you're writing these multiple generations, the Kate McGinnon people and Tara. Right. And now you have, I looked at, you know, Chloe Feynman, you have, I don't know.

Ago with him. I'm trying to get all the names. Andrew, I mean, how do you, are you, are you like sort of taking people on your wing a little bit? Do you know? I mean, you're like, you kind of know the system. You're a 10 year lifer. You're like quarterback. You know, the system, I know how it operates, but so when people come in and they watch you and you're in so many things and we'll get to your superstar sketches, um,

Do they ask you stuff? Do you feel you can help them out? What's that like with new fresh recruits coming off the... Do you box them out? Do you ice them? Do you get in their heads? They look like the aliens. They look like Amelia Earhart coming off the mothership and closing counters. They're in the headlights. I would joke Hazem, like, first table, but...

I mean, I feel like it's definitely very friendly. I've definitely heard stories about kind of the show in past years. It sounds kind of intense and the competition. Maybe those stories are like blown out of proportion as the years go on. I feel like if it's very friendly and

Everyone's pretty nice. You know what it is, Mikey? It's like The Bachelor where they're all friendly at the beginning and then it gets down to the show time and you're like, wait, you're still here? All bets are off. It's either you or them. Yeah. And it's just The Bachelor are always friendly until toward the end.

And they're like, can I pull you aside? He's been really saying shitty things about you. And they're like, what? And like, no, I'm just saying, I just feel like you should know. Well, the freakitude of somebody getting loose, like going out and making a hit movie or, you know, then the kind of the apple cart is sort of,

rocked a little bit mike and i with the freakitude of wayne's world that's at a certain point they would bring in giant like stuff you'd put laundry in with fan mail you know that it was i can't imagine being on the show and a couple past members were in a movie that was not only successful but wayne's world was like an insane insane cultural touchstone and you guys were still on the show yeah yeah

Yeah, they were bigger than the host sometimes. Yeah, it would be like, when would you decide to do Wayne's World? I remember as a kid, they would air it on Comedy Central. They would air one-hour reruns and taping it and waiting for the little Aurora, Illinois, little cable access graphic. Right.

And that's how I was kind of introduced to that era of SNL. I remember when I was little, little, my dad showed me some rerun of Coneheads.

like of snl it was coneheads on family food i'd never seen the show family food is a fucking great like name something you bite into and dan ekwood's like a trapeze that was like what it's so funny is this i love it name something you eat with eggs fiberglass yes and bill murray's so gross

It's so like, it's so fucking funny. Those sketches were long back in the day. I was like, this is 11 minutes. They'd go to a commercial and come back to the end of the family feud sketch. Yeah. You're like 11 minutes. Yeah. But you know what? I just saw your, there was a couple of funny ones. We're jumping around, but one, uh,

Oh, when you were in the car recently with Quentin. I think the traffic altercation one. Yeah. Right, yeah. That was one of those sketches.

That you look at and you go, oh man, what a brilliant notion. Tight, very well done. Did you write or co-write that? Has an ending. Yeah, I'd done it in a very loose version at Groundlings and Sunday Company a while ago live with Kevin Bernson.

and was like, I wonder if you can adapt this. I mean, I had to change it a lot for the TV cameras. Yeah. Yeah. It was cool that they were able to figure it out though. It's funny. They all, they all, whenever there's cars and sketches, they bring in these massive black sedans. And so we both, you can't really see in the sketch, but,

We're both driving, I think, identical massive black sedans. Yeah. Generic. Huge. TV cars. Packard from the 50s. Just gross inside. I did like at the end, they pull away and then you can see for one second the green screen and how you got... Because I'm like, I didn't see the camera at the beginning, but then... And then I thought it was a pre-tape because they were showing you from down here and her close up. Yeah, they did. And then when they pull away, I go, oh, it is live. Because I remember...

Lorne used to say they always would rather have it live if they could. And so, and that was a great one. I mean, it's cool when you can try to play with the, I guess, parameters of live stuff. Like I write with Streeter Seidel and Streeter Seidel and I write all the time together. And we're always trying to think like, what's something kind of different we could do to play with the medium. Cause it's cool. You can score, um,

With a live sketch because the pre tapes, you just have more time and you can kind of play with it a lot more. And I think people are more used to seeing film stuff, you know, online, but to have something that works live and kind of.

it resonates with people is a lot of fun sorry just live something can go wrong even in a great sketch it just gets tilted yeah there's a miscue and it can unravel even a great sketch so for this one it seemed like your air you landed it probably the best of the week that yeah i mean it really yeah it felt great yeah yeah it definitely um colin jost because there's a moment when

Chloe, who plays my daughter, Chloe Fine, and she is miming like you suck. And she's using the funny. She uses both her hands and then Colin shows in the hallway and

came up and pitched the joke. He was like, you should say, I don't love that you use two hands, which was one of the funniest lines in the sketch. Big laugh. Her doing that was funny. You saying that was funny. Calling her a bitch and pointing at her was funny. And then you did it was hilarious. Yeah. Quinta Brunson was perfect in it as well. She did a great job. She was great because at the table,

I was like, there's a lot of gesturing and I kind of gave her an example, but you can't really script out, you know, like, yeah, it's too many move your left hand. So she kind of was on her own at the table to kind of sell it and figure it out. And she was great. She totally got it. And when you're watching cards, you don't know, like,

If you're watching cards, you're like, oh, wait, this is the one where I have to go my left hand and I have to stay in frame. Yes. And then you're like, now the next one. Oh, wait, eating is this.

Oh, yeah. I point back, you know, that, that, and you could just people see people thinking because it looked hard in my head going, shit, if I was there, the cards have to be perfect. You have to either write on the, remember it is, or, you know, you have no notes. You're just like, okay, we've rehearsed it probably twice this week. That's it. Let's go. Yeah. I remember during the blocking of it, there was.

an issue with the window and the reflection and you could see the camera and the red light. And I was like, Oh, we're going to get screwed because of the stupid reflection. Cause I've had sketches go to dress and there's like some sort of reflective surface and you just see the red light and the flipping of cards the whole time. And you're like, no,

No, you just, they're going to cut it. Yes. You don't, you can just hear what's going on under the bleachers with Lauren and the writers. You're like, it's a thing. What the fuck is happening? Torn to shreds. Um,

But it worked out in the end, which was awesome. And that's kind of the thrill of it when you're doing something kind of different. And I would say just for myself is a sketch like that. Like you guys are both doing this physical comedy. The argument is escalating between the drivers. And then we get to in real time, see what you do, how you're going to mine out your insult.

And so even people in a bar in this kind of loud would probably watch it and laugh. So you got things going on all the time. And then it escalates into sexual things and had a really sweet. As they all do. Yeah. Why not? Why not? Guilty as charged. Not in bulbous parts. Throbbing. But this other one that got called out recently by our friend Ben Stiller.

is another amazing sketch. Oh, yeah. What a nice man. The home movies sketch. I know. I don't... Right. That was written by Dan Bulla and Stephen Castillo. Bulla. Bulla, Bulla. Bulla, Bulla. Love him. They gave me a great part. It was like a little present. They're like, here you go. Can you do this? It was so much, so much fun. And then...

Ben Stiller, such a kind, wonderful man, tweeted that. He is a very sweet person. Like, you didn't have to do that, man. And you gave me swag for a week. It's so funny at that show. You're like, I'm feeling good. And then you'll have like a bad sketch bomb at table read. And you'll be like, I suck. I'm the worst.

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It's strange. It's kind of the best, I guess, best and worst part, because even if you have a bad week, you're like, all right, there's always next week. And it literally starts all over again. And you can turn it around. What did you think that so that it's been Biden's been passed around for a decade now? No.

Nobody, Woody Harrelson, everybody, Matthew McConaughey. Everyone's doing Biden. Everyone's doing Biden. He's a puzzle. He's a puzzle. He's difficult. He's not, you know, Trump is obviously easy. Just a madman spewing and spewing. I mean, so many hooks, and James is still teasing out hooks. Oh, yeah. We love it. We love the Ramadan. Yeah.

So funny. And then Biden is in this frequency that's very difficult, you know, energy wise, because you can't yell. Like I could kind of with Ross Pro, I could be, you know, can't finish, can't finish, physical and loud. I just want to quote all your guys old stuff. Can't finish, I like that one. I'm enjoying this podcast quite a bit because this notion that you right now

or having somebody who's watching SNL for the first time. Go, did you see that guy, that traffic sketch that guy did? Didn't even know your name. Did you see? That funny guy. That traffic thing was funny. Biden's kind of, we'll see. But I like that traffic. But no one has really kicked, solved Biden in studio, in 8-H, which I think is a rock and roll room. It can be quiet.

But generally speaking, if you have energy at home base, it's helpful. Yeah, you want to be out there. And he whispers. Yeah, because he's into this...

I mean, back in the day when he was doing, you know, the running with Obama, Sudeikis played him. It was so funny. He's like, yeah, Biden time. Cause he was like, I'm going to get on a train and just sit and sing malarkey. And like old school Biden was very like, I've, I've had enough of your shit. I'm going to call you out. And he was a very happy temper. Yeah. Now he's this kind of older man. And so, um,

you don't want to go out there and be like, I lose your train of thought. Cause it's kind of sad. You know what I mean? Well, that's the thing. Yeah. Right. When he loses his train of thought, it's cause you know, he's,

you know an older it's like he got hit with a dart gun in the neck right before the speech and he's like hey yeah yeah he's he's unplugged his batteries are going i mean the only thing i could do is just try to make it silly you know so i have that hunter biden is the only one who can really understand him

hey how you doing dad yeah i was going to survive no i already ate but maybe tomorrow night i guess yeah i go so it's like not gonna do it it's like it's like not gonna do it i mean you gotta just go just make up what biden might be that's just right and then his that's funny his his son's the translator dad

Does anyone know what Hunter Biden talks like? I mean, I just figure he's kind of a dude. He looks like he's kicking it on the planet. Yeah, an older finance looking dude. Yeah, I do not know how he talks. Does any guy host ever come in and say, I want to play Hunter? I don't know. I don't think so. I know Pete played him.

And he was on one of those wheeled hoverboards. That's all I remember. He just kind of passed frame on one of those hoverboards, I guess, because he's like, oh, I'm a young kid. But I don't know if anyone's like cracked Hunter. Yeah, because...

I don't even know what he sounds like. The public doesn't know. I mean, he gave that little speech in the Capitol, but... Yeah, you just kind of know, like, laptop. It's a generic guy. Yeah, there's not a lot of voice that the public is aware of. I'm not. I just go like this. Hi, I'm Hunter Biden. When in doubt, just say the name of the person you're doing. I know. Oh, 100%. Hey, wait a minute. I'm Hunter Biden. It's Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden just walked in the room.

I'm Robin Leach. I'm famous. I don't know why. I don't know why. You know all my characters. I mean, you guys were... I think Hollywood... Yeah, Chloe. Hollywood Minute is the first... The first time I heard...

the phraseology of, hey, the 19, whatever called, which, and I liked it first time. When it was called, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe it was pioneered there.

Um, I think so. Did you invent that phrase, David? Cause that is a, that is like a thing in the ether now for, you know, the eighties called wants their shirt back. Yeah. Yeah. They did say in that Rolling Stones, I'm sorry, live thing that that was started there. I, I, I think so. I hope so. It still hasn't gone away. It got kind of, it got kind of, uh,

Tired a little bit, but it still pops up in commercials and stuff. But now it's just kind of like a... It's just out there now. Accepted insult package. Yeah. By the way, when I was watching the Super Bowl, Heidi Gardner, she was in the Super Bowl more than Travis Kelsey. She's a huge Chiefs fan too. She was in like every third commercial. Yeah. I didn't even know. I was like, Heidi? Heidi?

She is awesome. She was at Groundlings as well. So she's a sweetheart. She came on and talked to us. She was great. I know. She's like, yeah, I did fly on the wall. I was like, oh, you did. Oh, those guys don't like me. I don't know. Do you think they'll ask me?

Do they like me? We want everybody. Yeah, we haven't talked to everybody. Oh, yeah, Bobby on. Bobby Moynihan. We should get Taron on. You know, Taron Killian.

Yeah. Taryn Killiam, who's had an incredible run on that show as well. Wait, what about Is It Cake, Dane? I have to ask him about something about Is It Cake. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a cool show. Wait, you guys know what Is It Cake is and you're over the age of six? I actually, I like it. Kids love it. Of course. Oh, yeah, it's just fun. It's so...

When they first told me what the concept was, I was like, what? Is that all it is? And you go, yeah, but there's a show there. It feels very much like the show is aware that it's called Is It Cake? There's like a lightness to it and there's kind of an innate humor to it because of how ridiculous it is.

the concept is but at the same time it's really cool to see what those bakers do i mean no great job with it yeah it's a lot of fun but kids have responded to it and it's remarkable that they they love it not just the end game part they like are really into how they create these bakers how they create yeah cakes which i guess maybe because

Maybe it's like almost like a magic trick seeing how they, how they do it. But it's really interesting that kids respond to it. And then it stumps all the dumb celebrities. They like that part. Yeah. They're like, although Ego came on and did very, very well. She was really good at it too. Well, she would find she won't be back. I know you're like, it's weird. Cause for the judges, they're like, if they find it, you're,

You're in danger of not winning money. I just did a game show. And the funny thing was I was telling Dana is they want some, they want some comedy. They all want some comedy. And obviously that's why they get you.

And then when you go out there, do they try to juice you to be a little more energetic? There is always in my ear. Another one, a little more energy. We'll have some more energy out there. Yeah. Explain the rules again. Yeah. You're like, I just,

My least favorite part is explaining like if they do miss, then they'll go into the prize pot for another $25,000. However, if they're spared and you're like, yes. I know. And everyone's like, we heard that right before the fucking commercial. We know about the goddamn prize pot. And you're like, well, T-Rex that looks that's made out of cake. Yeah. Someone hit it with a hammer and we'll figure it out.

But I mean, everyone, everyone involved with that show is fantastic. Like they're very, they're very like, do whatever you want. It's not like, um, so we need to do it again. They're very like, yeah, just have fun with it. So I've been lucky in that respect. No, it sounds like a fun one. It sounds like a cool one. You guys got to come on. I'll come on. We got to go. You're, you're cutting out. I'll come on. Dana and David gave a very mixed reaction.

Possibly. So they might. We've got a couple verbal. We've got some soft yeses. You know what? I'm going to talk. My team will reach out to you. I like that. Polite and passive. Team is discussing it. You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony.

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I know. And it's not learning a language when you're older, you know, over the age of 20 is difficult. You know, I mean, all the high school Spanish I took grade school Spanish, you know, all I can say is Ola and hasta luego. So it goes out of your head. So now you have Rosetta Stone, David, tell them about it. Well, Dana, you know, more than anyone trusted expert for 30 years with millions of users in 25 languages. Uh, I mean, my gosh, uh,

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Well, you know it's special. I don't know how to describe it. When do you know it's working? I don't know. It was so weird. We rode it. It was like 4 a.m. And I had gone to Disneyland all the time because I grew up in Southern California. I forget when Hollywood Adventure or whatever. Yeah. California Adventure. Yeah. And then there was that Tower of Terror ride. That's what I'm trying to get to. Yeah.

It just very, to me, lends itself to a sketch format with like a doors opening and something crazy closed doors again. And then so it made us laugh. But it's it's funny because there's no like hard joke jokes in it where you're like, OK, well, that's at least we know a joke. It's all just.

I'm weird. And then them reacting. And then it works though. Yeah. And when it works with that shit, it's crazy. Well, could I insert this, my point of view on this? Some sketches are so funny, you can't really laugh at them the first time.

But then later on, you'll laugh more because there's so many questions. Why are they in this right? Who is this guy? Why is the other? There's all these questions in your head. And then you when you start to process it later on, it just makes you smile. I mean, Hanks's commitment to it and joy of it was so funny. And then and then you guys being the people reacting, it was just perfect. Oh, my God. It is perfect. On read through day.

in between the first and second half, you know, you meet with the host and kind of briefly tell them like, okay, you're playing a crazy German man in this or whatever. So we told him, so you're just kind of this guy, David pumpkins. And he talked a lot more in the first version, but we're like, you're just kind of a really upbeat and friendly and like you belong there. And he's like, okay. And so, I mean, he's Tom Hanks. So we committed, but

And I know we've talked about this, and I think Bobby mentioned it, but in between dress and air, he's like, I don't know if I have a read on Mr. Pumpkin's yet. There's nothing to laugh about. He's won two Academy Awards. So he did something else with his hands or something? I feel like, yeah, on air is when he was really like... He weirded it up or something? Yeah, he kicked it up to like insane because he's...

You watch the first one. He's just like staring slightly off. He's just a complete madman. But it's like the power of Tom Hanks and coupled with like Halloween and kind of the feeling in the country is like right before the election. I just feel like all the ingredients were there. But it's been awesome to see. Like I'll see online of, you know, kids dancing.

and Halloween costumes and dress their dogs up as the skeletons. And there's a dude at, uh, universal studios during Halloween who wanders the park as, Oh, which was like, all right.

That's great. We've made it. I love a Halloween costume. If you can get a sketch to be a costume, that's a fucking fact. 100%. Yeah. Also, a lot of these sketches, as Dana knows, the first Coneheads, the first Gap Girls, the first, almost first anything doesn't do that well because they're taking it all in, like Dana was saying. Yeah. They don't know until...

a lot of times in SNL, you just hammer it home till they're like, all right, we get it. Fuck, stop. It's a thing now. Yeah, it's a thing. And we're telling you it's a thing, but sometimes these organically, they turn into, so the next time you come out, if you hear enough about them, so you do do it again, then they're all ready and they get it. They're on board. And then it does way better. But sometimes the first ones are crickets. But how would you guys know? Yeah, we should keep doing this because it was. Letters. I don't know. The first Hans and Franz bombed.

Yeah, I'm sure. Because they thought we were going to lift heavy weights or something, and all we did was berate imaginary enemies.

Do it now and believe me later. Yeah, we'll come to your house and we'll put the shape of your flab into a rope ladder so you can crawl back down in the sewer because that's where losers live. And the audience is kind of like, who are they talking to? Why are they mad at me? Why are they mad at me? I still do it to this day. It's just sort of fun to be sorry. Mikey days, I guess. And you guys did it.

Look at Mikey Day, girly man, with your petite frame. You're a grown man. Ooh, little V-neck t-shirt. Ooh, it's your V-neck. Or snap that V.

What are you working on now? So you're coming out in another 10 days, 12 days from now with a show. Have you got a little something you can share with us in your back pocket? Who is it? Do we know? Keep it quiet, though, actually. Do we know Shane Gillis? Who's that? Who's Shane Gillis? All right. Shane Gillis. He's a stand-up, very successful stand-up comedian. No, we know. He was actually...

He got hired to be on the cast and then all that stuff went down with... You didn't say the word fired. You said he got hired and all that stuff went down. He got let go. Make this stuff go down, please.

You're going in a different direction. He's landed on his feet, but that was sort of an odd, bizarre situation. Yeah, it was an almost, yeah. And what will it be like? Have you talked about it as a cast? I'm not sure. I haven't really talked with anyone about it. It was just kind of, so we'll see. No one says anything there. It's quiet. Information is currency. No one's going to sit you down and go,

What we should do is act like it never happened. No, I think Shane is funny as shit. And he, uh, I think it's cool. SNL has him back. Good. Well, we, we talked to him about that podcast and I asked him, you know, is it, I don't know if it's a line of demarcation in a sense. Was he doing an impression, a character of someone who says things like that? Racist things. Yeah.

Right. Or, you know, and he said yes, but he didn't make it clear. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. Well, and all that comedy things get thrown in. Podcasts used to be

Just underground in basements. It's just like guys talking to each other. It's almost like a CB radio. And then it comes out and then you go, I don't even know what I said on that. And then you're like, oh, because you're talking to your friends. So, yeah, I mean, I think he paid the price and you learn from things and move on. But it's nice. Everyone says, hey, the guy's funny. We paid the price, but now the price is right. I mean, he's doing very, very well, Shane. You paid the price and now the price is right.

I think Zach, bring back Pumpkin, bring back my favorite Pumpkin, but have Shane do the Tom Hanks part. I don't know. Everyone's like, in unusual, in the middle of February, the two of David Pumpkins without Tom Hanks. Oh, does that suck? You can't do it until... Oh, unless you... You'd have to do some special whatever. I don't know. But... We did one, another one with Tom Hanks and...

I think a couple of seasons ago. Yes, yes. He was just in town at that time. Yeah. Like you want to do. Oh, right, right, right. David Pumpkins. Tom Hanks is in town. Anybody? Tom's in town. Throw on the pumpkin suit. Actually, the bigger the star, the less energy. Tom's here. Okay, let me. Tom who? That's such a funny observation. Barack Obama was dropping by.

Oh, he doesn't say his name. He goes, Barack. Barack. Obama? His Royal Highness. Barack Higginbotham. He's a new cast member. Vladimir Putin is in town. He's circling the building. Okay, do it on a scale of these five sketches. Blink, what's your favorite? Nursing Home with Kate McGinnon. American Girls Store as the creepy guy. Genetics Lab with Sam Rockwell.

Live report. You and Margot Robbie. Margot Robbie, yeah. Oh, is that live report? Yeah, where Margot Robbie is a square mask. I'm just her husband. Is that the husband that can't believe you're together? I honestly, yeah. They were playing you as like it was an impossible matchup.

But I didn't really see it that way. Wow. Well, that's very nice. I mean, I look at myself next to Margot Robbie and I go, that is an impossible matchup. I would be like, he must be a billionaire. Right. Yeah. That's me with every girl I dated in my life. Really crushed. Yeah. The dog one is fun. We've done that a few times and it's always fun because it was...

It's usually a writer who has to go down and be the dog's hands. Right. Genetics lab where they make a dog part human. We just say dog head man. And then the last time we did it was Martin Hurley. He was down there with from Please Don't Destroy down there doing the hands, which is funny because he's such a funny dude. Yeah. He's on camera in these videos and we're like, hey, can you...

Yeah. Bend down and snuggle up close to this dog in Panama. You need funny hands because a funny guy can get a couple extra laughs out of the hands. Exactly. Yes. So we ended up going with Mark. Anything else for this kid, Dana? I mean, I have so many questions for you guys. I have to...

Come back on and just ask you guys questions about all your sketches. We like being asked questions, but no one ever asks us any questions. No way. That's completely insane. I mean, I grew up with you guys, so this has been awesome.

And I'm not going to be able to listen to it. He's like, when I grew up with you guys, I remember when I was one and I'm like, God, that's getting worse. Like before I was born, they told me about you guys. I mean, no, that was very formative for me. I would say I won't get,

I said I wouldn't cry, but this is kind of why you... I don't know if you said that. Why you want to do this is that you could be money, fame, all this stuff. But if someone, once in a while, someone will come up to me in an airport and say some bizarre sketch I did. And me and my friends reference that once a month. You must be getting stuff like that with some of your sketches by now. It's nice to hear. It is nice. Sometimes. Sometimes.

If I was in an airport and saw Dana, I'd say, Mr. Fong, on the night of the murders, did you shampoo your hair? Oh, now you've just blown my mind. You just blew my mind. That's a stand-up special on Comedy Central that aired...

All the time. Yeah. In the 90s. I did a 10 minute bit on O.J. The premise of the bit was for O.J. to be it's either he's guilty or he's framed. Let's unpack him being framed. One hundred and sixty five people had to participate spontaneously that night.

We're framing OJ. You in? I like OJ, but it's just too good. And it goes on. And then I do Marcy. What's their name? Marsha Clark. All my years as a prosecutor. And then Johnny Cochran. Why are we even having a trial?

Oh, yeah. I think he plays jazz trumpet at the end, right? Your Honor, Your Honor, I'd like to have sex with Your Honor. Just his effusive compliments. And if I may, I'd like to play some jazz trumpet. You know, whatever. Oh, my God. You've made my day, Mikey. I mean, and then, David, I could dork out on Tommy Boy for...

A perfect movie. For a long time. I'll never be able to listen to this. I'm going to be like, oh, you're such a dork. You just spent so much time going, I love your guy's stuff. No, Dana was just texting me that. This guy sucks. Edit this down. Maybe not. No, we got a solid 10 minutes in here somewhere. You know what, Mikey? I can't find it.

I do that all the time. My persona on this podcast is I do compliment people and I go, maybe it's too syrupy, too over the top. But I assume most talented people have an inner critic somewhere. Am I any? Because where's this drive coming from? Am I really any good? So it's good to hear it from, if you respect us or like our work, just to say, yeah, you're kicking ass on SNL.

I wildly respect you both. You guys are very kind individuals for how legendary you are and the roles you've played in my life, especially. So talking to you guys was like truly a thrill and I appreciate it.

I would love to come down and weirdly quote lines at you. It's weird when you just kind of throw a quote at someone, but it's like for me, all that stuff is so ingrained in me. So you just want to say, I know this to the person personally.

Yes. I do it to people too. It's fine. I like it. I think it's compliment. When you're sitting there writing a sketch or a standup bit, and you're meticulously trying to find the key to the kingdom basically. And, and you find it and it's just a few words strung together. And then someone quotes it to you 30 years later. You're like, Ooh, they,

They really heard that. Someone heard that. Yeah, it's weird. You kind of forget about the audience at home when you're doing SNL. You're just so focused on the studio audience and how it is received. You're like, oh yeah, there's people at home who watched it. Sometimes people will reference a sketch that aired, but you thought, I don't know. I guess it's like a C plus, I guess. It's easily forgettable. Yeah, and then someone will go, I love that one. You're like, he

You saw that? Great. That's fantastic. Your Donald Trump Jr., by the way, is a really, really funny take. And I assure you, you get recognized for that because you wear the wig and you... Yeah, sometimes, yeah. People will be... Just play him like a 1980s movie villain. Play him like the guy who's like, I challenge you...

to a ski race. Yeah. And if we win, we're going to tear this thing down. Yeah. It's kind of like alpha frat boy energy just coming super competitive. It's very funny.

Yeah, yeah. The Trump guys. It was fun to do, yeah, with Eric, with Alex Moffitt. Alex Moffitt. It was fun to do the brothers. He's hysterical. Yeah. Well, thank you, Mikey. Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thanks for the compliments. Dana, thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for coming on. Thanks so much for having me. We appreciate it. Sorry about my technical issues at the start. You guys are awesome. Not at all. It was an absolute pleasure. And you're a good man. David, final thoughts? Yeah.

Yeah, Martin Short took two and a half hours to get on, so it's fine. Never worry about that. Oh, my God! No! This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow, subscribe, leave a like, a review, all this stuff, smash that button, whatever it is, wherever you get your podcasts. Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, Charlie Finan of Brillstein Entertainment, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.