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Nate Bargatze: 本期节目主要围绕着 Nate Bargatze 的喜剧生涯展开,从他早期对 Airbnb 的喜爱,到他事业的快速发展,以及最近在 SNL 的精彩表现。他分享了自己对喜剧创作的看法,以及如何处理在不同场合(如俱乐部演出、企业演出、SNL)的表演。他还谈到了自己对观众的观察,以及如何根据观众的反应调整表演节奏和内容。他坦言在 SNL 彩排时非常紧张,但最终在正式演出中表现出色,并对 SNL 的编剧和演员团队表示赞赏。他认为 SNL 的经历让他对电视表演有了更深的理解,也让他对未来发展有了新的思考,例如拍摄电影或电视剧。 David Spade: David Spade 在节目中与 Nate Bargatze 进行了深入的对话,他表达了对 Nate Bargatze 喜剧才华的欣赏,并分享了自己在 SNL 和其他场合的演出经验。他与 Nate Bargatze 探讨了喜剧创作的挑战,以及如何处理观众的期望和压力。他还分享了一些与 eHarmony 的合作内容,以及对喜剧行业现状的看法。他认为 Nate Bargatze 的成功是多方面因素共同作用的结果,包括其独特的表演风格、对观众的理解,以及对喜剧创作的不断努力。 Nate Bargatze: 我非常喜欢 Airbnb,因为它私密性好,有自己的空间和设施。我的事业发展很快,从俱乐部演出到剧院演出,再到发行特辑。疫情期间,我虽然工作很忙,但无法进行巡演。我非常重视观众的反应,并会根据观众的反应调整我的表演。在 SNL 的彩排时我非常紧张,因为没有观众的反馈,但正式演出时我感觉好多了。我喜欢 SNL 的编剧团队,他们很了解我的表演风格。SNL 的经历让我对电视表演有了更深的理解,也让我对未来发展有了新的思考,例如拍摄电影或电视剧。我喜欢与观众互动,但我不做与观众互动,这有助于保持我的表演的独特性。我喜欢在演出中加入一些新的素材,但也会准备一些老段子以防万一。我喜欢在不同的场合进行演出,这让我能够不断学习和成长。 David Spade: 我非常欣赏 Nate Bargatze 的喜剧才华,他的表演风格干净且幽默,适合各种场合。我好奇 Nate 如何处理不断增加的企业演出邀约,以及他在事业快速发展期间的内心感受。我认为 Nate Bargatze 的成功是多方面因素共同作用的结果,包括其独特的表演风格、对观众的理解,以及对喜剧创作的不断努力。我也分享了自己在 SNL 和其他场合的演出经验,以及对喜剧行业现状的看法。我与 Nate Bargatze 探讨了喜剧创作的挑战,以及如何处理观众的期望和压力。

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Discussing the preference for Airbnbs over hotels, highlighting the privacy and home-like amenities.

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Yes, I have actually stayed at Airbnbs from time to time. And truth be told, I do really like them. I'm being totally honest right now that I've had great experiences with them. Yeah. I mean, you can have your look at you go get your own place, get your own pool, your own living room. You're not going to walk in an elevator. You're not going to see people when you're walking around in your undergarments. Yeah.

Yes. And if you don't understand what we're talking about, you should go online. What we're saying is you have a house with a kitchen and a bathroom and it's just for you, tailored for you. You liked your Airbnb over a hotel. Yes. And I do think I've had relatives stay nearby and sometimes it's very nice for them to do an Airbnb and have a little house and they're not underfoot. The last thing you want is your house guest to say, excuse me, um,

Where would I find a towel? That's a toughie when it's because they're naked. Well, it's like the 1800 time you say on the towel rack. Yeah. Thank you. I was going to look there. People don't even think hotels sometimes just go, Hey, I'll go there. I'll get an Airbnb. So you won't regret it. Nate Bergazzi. Dana is a great standup. Just climbing up very fast and,

Not quite a household name, but very close. He's selling out all over the place and killing it. Unbelievable. So here we are. This is kind of a cool episode for us because Nate just did Saturday Night Live, crushed it. And we're getting him a couple of days later. So I bet he's still kind of flying from the experience. That would be normal. So we get to check in with him on all that stuff. It's really fun.

Check his pulse, check his step counter. Yeah. Yeah. Was there regret? I mean, when you hosted, I remember you'd call me and I, I would just hear whimpering and

And I said, David, you did fine. You crushed it. And then I go, did you see it? You go, no, but I heard. You did mango, but we'll get into that. You did mango and you did, that's when you got the, you had like a mini skirt on or something. That's where you had high heels and. Yes. Anyway, but Nate Bregazzi is here. I would listen to this if I were you.

And I'm talking to you, David. I'd listen mostly even just to hear me. No, this Nate's a really nice guy. We had a great time talking to him. Yeah. Maybe he'll be a prick on this. Change things up. You know, Dana, I was going to say, I, uh, every time I do a corporate, I think I follow, I follow you big guy.

When you do, 'cause there's the amount of people doing corporates, there's like five of us that are doing them. Well, it's your time now, but you know what? There's a lot of tricks I use. I read their website, I get their vernacular, and I pretend that I'm an expert, whether it's a tech company or anything, I'm there to actually get some on my side. But they can be chilly, right? I mean, even you, it's got one of the best acts out there right now, for sure.

Is it tough for you to do corporate or you're pretty much? I do. I mean, I just do what I'm doing, my act, being clean. But they can be, it really just matters the setup. It's set up how you're introduced. And they're not as, you know, when you get to a level where they can be, you know, it's like the stage is nice and some places they can be really good.

But then, yes, some can be they're far away from you or they can't hear you or whatever. Yeah, or can't hear you. Or I recently played corporate in Hawaii, and it was like at 1030 at night, driving wind outdoors on a little tiny stage, and there was like 20 of them scattered, a lot of empty seats, kind of hung over and looking at me. So I brought the CEO out of the audience just to riff with him because I don't really –

I wish I, when I see someone like you or Jerry Seinfeld or David Spade, who has just this great material, you know, I'm up there dancing for my money, you know. I just want to ask you this question because I was curious about that. So you've got your tour and all your standup dates. And so, okay, you go, you're home, you're resting. And then someone calls and says, there's this corporate date.

And you're like, well, I just got off the road. I don't want to do it. And then they come back with more and more and more. And eventually it gets to a cartoon number where you feel like you have to go. Or is that, or you, can you, are you in the place where like, okay, I'm off. I don't care who calls. You would. Yeah. I mean, you still, I mean, I'm not, now I'm on the road, but it's like next year in the fall, I'm taken off next, the fall. Next year. Yeah.

24. Yeah. That's like a year from now. Yeah, the tour goes all the way to June or July. Yeah, yeah. I got Tape Notes Special and then...

I'll take a special, then I'll be off from like next, this time next fall to whatever, May, you know, summer 25 and then do another one. I saw, I looked at your site, I saw your dates and it was interesting that you, like Brian Regan before you, you're clean, really clean and hilarious. So you could do an afternoon show and you could do a second show.

Well, what I was curious about is like your monologue on SNL. Is that can that be in your next special or is that in your mind? You can't use it. No, I think I will. I mean, it's in my act now with with SNL thing.

I mean, I got to go. I'm going to Peoria Wednesday and then Chicago. So, uh, yeah. And so I'll be, I'll be doing it. I have other stuff surrounding that. So it'll be, you know, I was worried about it. Like, all right, is it going to be burnt? Like if it depends on what it, how it does to, uh,

you know, if he, we got so crazy, but I mean, I think people want to see that stuff live and it's all attached to a bigger chunk. So, uh, I wasn't, I kind of got over at first I was worried about it. Then I kind of got over it, uh, just thinking like it was going to be burnt and be like, you know, it's like doing a late night set where you're like, here's just a taste of what my,

You know, I get people give me a flack sometimes like, Oh, you did. Oh, that was all new stuff. I mean, I saw some of it on Ellen and I'm like, well,

Some of these bits are, like, fatter since-- 'cause you do a talk show, you're just coming up with it that week, you're just throwing something together, and then you stumble into something you like, and then you make it into a bigger chunk, and it gets better and sharper. But most people don't mind hearing some stuff you've done before, because that's part of the fun. And I think one problem with some comics is they go on and they go, "Special tour, special tour," and the specials get a little softer, because there's almost no way

to grind it out that fast to make it that good. Like, you're like, where's my whole bit? Where's my bit about this? Where's my tried and true killers? Do I have that on this hour? I feel that way sometimes. I'm like, fuck, I miss some of those ones that would just key rush, you know? Yeah, yeah. It's, you know, like, I think I do a special probably every two years, or I have been. This last one, I had to build up really fast.

And everything's been kind of going so fast. So it's been, but that's why I'm going to take off next. I got, I need to live a, as normal of a life as I can to come up with material. Like you just got to, you know, that's why I have so much material when you first start. Cause you're, you're not as busy. So you're doing regular stuff.

And then you get your bits. Yeah. Yeah. And that's true. All your bits are about being on the road. Yeah. Yeah. Airplanes flying. And about the money gun he takes when he sprays it. Like he's Travis Scott, a strip club. He's like, that's what he does. That's how you should open. Now give so much money. Just spray. It's like you have one of your openers. Just go buy hundreds from the bank and then you reload it. You come out with a wheelbarrow.

This is what fit in our bus, so we got to get rid of some of it. Yeah, the money in your bus is making it so heavy you have to get rid of some of it. Woo-hoo!

Well, yeah, I mean, it's always a curiosity. You know, I'm a celebrity net worth guy. So I'm always fascinated by people like you for the first time. I mean, 2017, you did a half hour special. You're growing, you're growing, you're growing. You're doing these specials. You're getting bigger, bigger, bigger. So where are you now on the surreality of this coming off of SNL? It just seems...

Like, the last five years was the big, you were famous, you're doing great, but then it just went whoosh, right? I mean, bigger, bigger rooms. When did it start? When did you first, you want me to play what? And how many seats? Yeah, it was after the standups, the half hour on Netflix. That was like when I started like clubs and people were kind of coming out and I knew they knew me. So, but I was like starting to sell out clubs and

That was kind of moving forward. And after the Tennessee Kid was kind of, we were kind of out of clubs, kind of moving to theaters and going in that direction. And then, you know, when you're in a theater, you kind of know that everybody's there to see it because it's usually, I mean. It's more of a, it's not just people going to that club every week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like once that, then the Tennessee Kid, like that happened, then the Greatest Average American, like,

uh, co that was during COVID. And so I, I did outdoor. I remember that one. I did the drive in theaters and, uh, you know, the outdoor one. I mean, that helped just being putting a special out during that time, I think was a giant thing. Cause so many people watched it, uh, and started this podcast that I do. And, uh,

So it's like, I just kind of kept as busy as you could be with other circumstances. This is the most I ever worked was COVID. I got just only indoors. - But you can't tour on that special, unfortunately. Like you can't jump on it. Like I did the wrong Missy and it was like, I celebrated in my own house eating a pot pie because I couldn't leave. They go, "Your movie's number one in the world."

Great. I, I, there's nothing, I can't even go to a restaurant and have dinner. I just, we were wide open. So I, we celebrated it.

Oh, yeah. I'm in stupid California. We're still on lockdown, dude. I'm not supposed to do podcasts. Yeah, that's how I do it. I'll Zoom. I have to report to the governor if I leave my room. Right now, I have no script. I'm just full transparency right now. I am not acting from a script. I'm making up everything I say in real time if Zag is listening.

Oh, if SAG is listening, that's right. -If SAG is listening, I'm not. -Oh, yeah. We are not on a script. No matter how witty and fun this podcast has been so far, listeners, we are not-- This is not written. Everything I say sounds like it's written by professional comedy writers, but I'm not. I'm just talking.

It's all tight. So I'm just curious because you're like so unflappable on stage. Everyone says that, right? And it's so comfortable to watch you because you never seem to, you're just telling a story and then you have so many laugh points stacking and stacking. But internally, having this happen to you, it's just five, six years.

and your marriage and your friends and your sister, Abigail, we met and stuff. I mean, do you have a nervous place or a, because now you're coming out like, ladies and gentlemen, Nate, you know, because I feel pressure. There was a point where I'm going to a club to work out material, get ready to fasten your left safety belts. He's bringing it tonight. You know, it's like, do you feel pressure at all? Or you just feel joy or what are you, or are you numb? Yeah.

No, you do. You feel like you got to live up to the expectations that they have when they come. I don't want to fall off. Like, I don't want to be...

doing shows and they're just in my jokes are good for my crowd and then you know because I think that's when people can it kind of starts going away is like if you're if you don't realize it and then you're just doing jokes that like are for your audience they laugh at it because they love you but you're never gonna you know you don't you're not a great customers

Yeah. You want to, that's why I mean, SNL, that's why this was such a big kind of thing. Cause I was going in front of an audience that,

is the, you know, it's like- Not there to see you. They're not there to see me. And they're most people, when I got picked to host, most people were like, I don't, no one knows who I am. Yeah, a lot of people were mad, yeah. Yeah, people were upset. They're like, who does this guy think he is? I was just in a bad mood for a couple of days. I don't know, it's nothing personal. No, but what- I was at Chili's and people were pissed. They were just talking about it at the table next to me.

Who is this? Nate, what the fuck is going on? You know, Dana, I think we have a connection. We've been friends for a long time. And for this episode of Fly on the Wall, we've partnered with eHarmony, which isn't us. eHarmony is a dating app to find someone you can be yourself with. We are not dating. I want to clarify that. But the connection is what you want in a dating partner. Yeah.

Just someone like, if you found someone that listened to this podcast, that's somewhat of a connection. And then you sort of build on that. You want someone with some common ground. Yeah. It's not, it, look, if you want to connect romantically over, you know, super fly or fly on the wall, uh,

It just makes us happy. You don't want to be watching The Godfather and the person next to you goes, this movie sucks. You want to- So dumb. Yeah. You want to connect on all issues and harmonize in life. Similar sensibility, similar sense of humor, and similar sense of sense. I don't like when they watch The Godfather and they're like, everyone in this movie is so old. I'm like, they're 40.

Watch 2001 Space Odyssey. Too much of this movie is in outer space. I don't like it. When do they land? When do they land? Why is that stupid red light acting so silly? Who's friends with a robot? We know dating isn't easy. That's why we partnered with eHarmony because dating is different on eHarmony. They want you to find someone who gets you, someone you can be comfortable with.

Yeah. I mean, the whole idea is you're going to take a compatibility quiz, helps your personality come out in your profile, which makes all the profiles on eHarmony way more interesting and fun to read. So I think this is the goal of dating sites, and I think eHarmony does it great. It's just finding somebody you're compatible with.

So get started today with a compatibility quiz. So you can find some and you can be yourself with. Get Who Gets You on eHarmony. Sign up today. I just want to know about the call, the phone call. Was it a slow build or did it hit you like, really? I knew they came to a show and I knew I was like on the radar.

Like my agents told me, and I mean, this was probably a few months ago. I would say it's this year.

Cause it was, yeah, I would say it was this year. And so I knew it was like on, I was on the radar somewhat, maybe this summer actually. Uh, and then, you know, didn't think much about it. And then, uh, and then, um, then my agents or manager, they say like, you know, uh, they're like, you know, or jinx it, but I mean, you might be able to do it. And I knew after that, Lauren, you know, cause we met Lauren at Melanie's birthday party.

Me and, or I met him there for the first time. Oh yeah. With Spade. And I didn't, like, I didn't, Lauren didn't, you know, I shook his hand, but I didn't, he didn't talk to me or say like, oh, hey, like it was, I knew he didn't watch my special up at that point. And then after that is when he watched the last special, Hello World. And then, so I knew he liked that special. And then that's when I, I kind of heard maybe October 28th was going to be the date. And so it was like kind of getting real, but then it was like, well, maybe not.

And so then it was like, you know, it was just kind of one of those, you're like, maybe I'll do it. At dinner, Lauren pulled me aside and goes, David, who's the guy eating the lasagna? And I go, oh, that's Nate. And he goes, the way he twists his fork, I bet he could host.

I think he's got that certain something. That's Lorne. He's unflappable when you meet him and he checks in with former cast members. I got the call. Do you think he has what it takes? I think so. I think it's a good move. I think it's a change up, a new host. I don't think about it. Were you scared about the sketches or you weren't that worried about it?

- Yeah, no, I was. And they were, you know, I mean, I hit you up. I was like trying to ask everybody. It's like, I didn't know the cue cards and you know, I mean, you realize like being on TV, I'm not on TV, you know, it's like, I don't, I'm not on TV. I'm on, I do a special and you gotta like wear the lights on to be like, well, that camera's on. All this kind of stuff that, you know, it's like-- - Well, you control your whole special too. You get to pick and choose how it is, what do you look like, what you wear.

Yeah. So it was, you know, that kind of stuff. I mean, I was excited. I was very excited the whole week. I was very excited. I got very nervous during dress rehearsal, not just rehearsal, the, the, the,

run through on Saturday with no audience. That one I was like, kind of, cause I remember like looking, I mean, we did the Washington sketch when we ran it the first time. I mean, dude, I'm looking the opposite of every camera on the planet. I mean, I don't even know what lights are, you know, I don't know how to know which one's on. And I mean, I'm just like following the wrong, you know, the wrong thing.

Do you wear your wig in the daytime? I can't remember, Dana. You wear all your shit in the daytime? They would at least put them halfway on probably. Just to get a feel for timing. Everyone was in somewhat of a costume during the afternoon and you're just walking through sketches and it's getting real for the first time. That was what the most, I was so nervous then because you still don't have an audience.

And you're just like, you know, you're like, you're kind of in it. We're changing the blocking a little bit. I that sketch was probably going to get cut, to be honest.

'Cause I did it, 'cause leading up to it, you know, like doing, when you're doing the script, table reads and all that stuff, you know, I'm not, I'm just reading this stuff. I'm not like all into it. Like you feel, I feel dumb. Like I'm not used to doing this. I want an audience to perform for. And so I'm kind of just like, you know, doing it. And I mean, the George Washington sketch was, it was last. It was the last sketch we did for Dress Real.

It was the last one and we just figured it'd be, but then once we did it live, I like got way into more. I was kind of rushed, uh, leading up to it with no audience. Cause there's no lack, you know, there's nothing to really, I'm so used to performing. There's a couple of crew laughs. Yeah. There's a couple of crew laughs and I'm used to doing standups. I'm used to like, yeah, my timing is based off the laughs. And, uh, so when there's not, when, you know, when you're just in there with each other, it's,

I don't fake it great. Everyone feels that way. You lose confidence. What happened in the practice show, the dress show, that compared to the air show? The air show was still, you felt like, was the peak?

of how you performed it? Yeah, I would say they were both basically the same. Before the dress rehearsal with the audience, before the audience got there, I was very quick on everything. My timing was very fast.

Higgins was like, telling me, helping me with that. Like I was just very like, kind of just, I would say it, I wouldn't be so much into it. And then during dress rehearsal, it's last, we assume, I mean, I found this afterwards, but I think they assume it's gonna get cut. And then I just did, I just set in my rhythm and I was able to pace and I would kind of let the laugh calm down, then I would deliver the line. And that just helped it so much.

The chef show was even better too because of the live audience. Yeah, it's a lot of timing. I thought they did a good job writing for your style, so to speak. They did. But you landed it so hard, especially in the Washington one.

where you're timing, you're pausing, there is a charisma to it. It was an interesting, 'cause when I first started watching it, I had no idea how hard it was gonna kill, you know? But it just like popped. - You had a good crowd too, not to say you weren't good, but sometimes you get crowds there and you see people that are doing great stuff and you're like, you know what I mean? You go, you just do not wanna be on one of those nights where they're just not, Dana, you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, sometimes you just get a dead audience. I think Halloween shows tend to be slightly more festive. And I think having Christopher Walken show up in the beginning-- -That moved that up, yeah. -And jacked everyone up. And then your monologue, you know, sometimes is not so good, you know, and you're just killed. So then the audience is really happy. They got to see Walken. They're relaxed with you. They're happy to see you. And then there you go. Well, let me jump in, Dana. Nate, I have to say, when I watch his stand-up over the years,

You have, which is kind of unique to not every comic book,

your crowd is very good and disciplined they definitely when i watch even mostly you know tick tock and i see that stuff on instagram these it's like one bit at a time you know but they laugh at all the setups they're they're quiet they listen to everything they know there's some gold on the way and then they you sort of the payoffs are like almost one or two and then you get out but

I was jealous sometimes, 'cause if I take a pause sometimes I'm on the road, they start yelling Joe Dirt shit. They start, you know, they get rowdy, especially the bigger crowds, and you have bigger crowds, and, you know, the thousands of people, it's hard to keep them all shut up. And they're really into it, and I think that's great that you have that crowd. And it seemed like that was on SNL. They would let you pause, they'll let you do your style, they'll hang on it, and then they appreciate the throwaway jokes on the way, which is great.

I mean, it's, I think, you know, I don't really ever talk to the crowd. I don't do crowd work. And so doing that stuff, like I never have done it and I don't have videos of me doing it. That helps because then no one, you know, I don't, it doesn't look like. Oh, you don't push. Yeah. People don't go, oh, this guy likes, that's what's ruining the standup is all these people posting stuff with crowd work.

And then they go, oh, so they like it when you get involved. Like, no, they just don't want to show their real act on TikTok. So they're just making up bullshit just to get you in the club to see their real act.

but people think, "Oh, they like it when I interject at the punchline." They think that's the show. And so then, you know, when they see that stuff, it's-- it's not like you train your-- It's just they're-- they're seeing what they see and they go, "Oh, that's what this guy does. He does this. And he does an act or not an act." So they were able

I mean, I was like, they had a couple of applause breaks, I think, during it where I was trying to like, one towards the end, the Pearl Harbor joke, and I knew would get a laugh. I say every history movie I watch, I watch on the edge of my seat. What is going to happen now? Sometimes that can get an applause, but I have the last line. So I was like, that one I was trying to stay on top of a little bit. I didn't want to do a whole applause. It's like, they kind of clapped and I kind of just like,

was like, kind of like, all right, just hold on one second. Like, just let me get this last thing out. Cause it was like, I wanted to end on that last, you know, sometimes when you can have, you can almost have two good jokes at the end and you're like, all right, if I, if the first one does great, I don't really care if I do. Just bail. Yeah. Just bail. But this one I knew I was like, well, I want to do it. So I was trying to kind of stay on them. So I didn't go to a completely flat. I didn't want to go all the way flat again to go back up.

What about, I thought you'd get out of the reading joke because it was so funny. I'm like, that was such a great run. I could have. I mean, I thought, you know, I knew I had a couple that I could. It's that Pearl Harbor, the...

I don't know. It's like the Pearl Harbor joke was just, I knew, I just know that I've been doing that for a while. So it's like, it's just a very easy, like, I know it's going to work and it's like short and it's like, I can just say it and then boom. Yeah. You followed a good joke with a good joke, which is hard because I thought, shit, how do you follow that reading joke? And then you did another one. So that was a long moment too. How long was it? That's, you know, obviously it's going to be longer because it's you.

How long do you think it went? Like 10? 925, I think they told me. Because I kept asking. I was 1005 at dress rehearsal. And then I changed some stuff up. And I added one, the hotel shower thing. I did not do in dress rehearsal. And I added it. And I took out. Well, I think it just set up the 1900 thing a little bit better. Yeah.

And I mean, I've been doing all this stuff on the road. I mean, the hardest part was the beginning of the week having to change, you know, I haven't done a short set like that in a long time. And so you're, you know, when you're used to doing an hour, it's like your rhythm is longer and all this stuff. So then I had to kind of come back and I did a bunch of spots to get back into that New York short set rhythm. Just a fucking tight 10. And it's the most valuable 10 you got to do. You know, when I did it, Dana, um,

Nate, you can listen to this too. But when I did it, when I posted the first time, Sandler was in my opening monologue just because it was like, oh, he's there. Let's just use him because it's funny. And he was going to be asking questions. You know, question monologues are usually pretty easy. They do it with hosts that have no skills.

I guess that's why I did it. But I could have done a stand-up one, but it was me and Sandler going at it. He was playing this nerdy guy, kept asking me questions that tripped me up. Oh, yeah, it's one more question, real quick. And so the day of the show, I'm obviously nervous, and they said, oh, Adam, he had to fly back because he's doing Waterboy open this weekend at Crush. He's got to go back and do something back in L.A. And I'm like, oh, fuck, what's my monologue? And I go, and Lauren goes, just do stand-up. And I'm like...

well yeah i don't even do stand-up that much like and i can't practice at all so i did uh you know i think two long bits together right they're kind of long ones but that was it when martin lauren and it worked out but uh it was scary to never practice that was one point and then i don't know if dana was there for martin lawrence but he didn't i was asking your time because i think in rehearsal was five and on air it was 12.

Oh, wow. And, you know, shit's getting thrown out. They're like, you know, you're walking the hallway and you hear, Gap Girls is cut. You're like, after the monologue? Because usually in the middle of the show, you're getting like 20 minutes to one and you're like, fuck, if this audience is this good, it's going to spread. And then we're not going to have time for a final sketch in the early 86th.

he went so long, we were all like, "Oh, my God." I think it was Mark Lawrence, right? Yeah. And, uh-- But that's funny. Well, you had a great monologue. I didn't mean to interrupt that. Great monologue, quick change. That Hallmark movie about killers, was that earlier in the show, later in the show? Because it was pretty early for a pre-tape. Uh, yeah, it was-- They moved it-- Yeah, so, like, when I did it-- 'Cause that's saying we were, like, nine minutes over, he was saying. So, like, it's crazy, like, Lorne

Uh, you go up and, like, he's-- you're in there in the meetings, like, on deciding the show. And the whole time I'm there, I'm like-- I wanna be like, "Hey, I've not done teeth--" Like, if they look at me, I'm like-- - -You're like, "I--" You know? You're scared to say something you-- you don't realize, like, you actually can say. The Washington sketch, I think I said I liked it. And-- and Lauren knew I liked it 'cause it was-- it basically was all me. And I was like-- I knew, like, "Oh, I'll be able to get into this." But, uh, it was--

You don't realize like how much you say you kind of do. You know, I mean, obviously it's their decision. But so some of you just sitting there and they go and I was like, I'll cut some of my monologue. But he didn't want to. He was like, no, no, no. You know, because he knew.

I was being introduced to so many people that it's like-- Right, people are tuning in for that too, yeah. Yeah, and so I was at 10 minutes there and then I got it down to nine. It was 9:25 when we taped, which made me happy 'cause I was afraid. I didn't wanna just blow, like do that, blow up the whole show. I get off and someone's like, "You did 16 minutes." Yeah. And then five sketches-- There's no light, right? You don't get a light? Oh, there's nothing.

It's just the show. - What does your cue card look like when you're doing your monologue? - I just had bullet points. - You do have bullet points. - I had bullet points. I just had like a set list and I just wrote the set list. Just because it's like I'm doing, these jokes are in so many different places in my act.

Right. Oh, you're jumping on it. It's not normal. Yeah, it's not a normal way. So I just wrote out. But we had the thing listed, and then I rewrote a set list for the taping show. I was going to lose the Afrin joke, but then Lauren was like, no, I like the Afrin joke. And then he goes, I think you should do it. You go, I'm going to lose it. And he goes, hmm.

- Yeah. - I'll put that down. - Yeah, I'll do whatever you want me to. - I see the cue card guy, Wally, is like drenched in sweat. He's got this 19 minute monologue.

He did while he had to hold up two cards. 'Cause it was 16, like I had like 16 lines and you know, I just didn't wanna get lost up there. - Was there anything more terrifying in standup than that standup or was it like one of your big gigs at Bridgestone or something? Was there anything that there was that, was that more casual?

No, no. This one was the most because I mean, I'm you know, I mean, I've done it now for 20 years. So like you're at least doing something, you know, the most. But, you know, it's like it's not, you know, I mean, I do like not to say that I just did some arena. Like, I mean, I just came off of I went from Oklahoma City where the Thunder play.

And I was in that arena Sunday to Saturday night live. So like, it's, I mean, when you're in those big arenas, you're just murder. And it's just, it's just like, you're, you're just in this big kind of like flowing and all this. So then when you go switch it to this, you're like, dude, do my bombing. Like you can't sometimes, you know, when I went to this, when I, yeah, I felt it. Uh,

You got to talk to, you got to look at the camera. No one's going to tell you. I'm your friend. I'm telling you. It's about 150. Is it 200 people in there? Yeah, 200 people. It's pretty microscopic when you walk in.

Yeah, it doesn't feel like a big room. It would be a room that you'd be like completely fine with, except that it's, you know, what's I mean, you can see yourself on the monitor and I'm just seeing gross. Well, I'm seeing Saturday Night Live, like the most famous backdrop ever behind me. And I'm standing there and you're kind of like you start to lose your place. Yeah. You're like, I mean, what is this? Like, you don't want the band not to laugh at you. The band was laughing. That's good.

How did you, like, they're fixing your hair or whatever, and then you just come out when the music plays. And then you're walking down to your spot. And then you got your first laugh, because that is sort of...

It's just nerve wracking. And I've been on the show for seven years, but hosting it and them, okay, and you get launched, it's just weird. Yeah, you go, they tell you to hit the mark. He's like, make sure you hit the mark. They kept saying that. And you're like, you know, usually it's like, here's the mark. It's like, fine. And they're like, make sure you hit this mark. It's not even that big a deal. Yeah.

And then he goes, thank you. You just say, thank you very much when the guy does like, he does like that on the, behind the camera. And then you go, all right. And then I, then they hand me the microphone and then I start my set. And then, you know, you're thinking about too, when I get done.

You know, when I get done, I got to be like, all right, I got to throw a shot. You know, I've never done like a we'll be right back. Stay tuned. You're used to taking 100 bows. Did you did you carry a mic or did you was that a was that a discussion? They handed it to me. I mean, but did you say I could do without a mic? You'd rather use. No, no. I said I want a mic.

And then for people who are listening, right, as soon as you finish the monologue, you can't celebrate the monologue. You got to run. The show's launch. You have a team of maybe two or three people, someone dressing, makeup, hair. They're going to grab you. Wardrobe, yeah. And take you along, you know. And they become kind of your confidants throughout the week. They're like on your team. They're giving you a quick.

feedback that was great but now let's go here and yeah I mean it's like yeah Donna like and Jerry and like they that was that was the craziest thing because you just you get off and they grab you and you're just running to just like go change yeah it's almost like if you got done with a set on stage

And then someone just threw you in a car alone and you drove away. And you're like, was it good? I don't know. You just had no idea. You got kidnapped and put in a gunny sack and thrown in a trunk. Like, you'd have no time to analyze it. Was your suit made of, were you wearing a, oh, I saw you were wearing, it was like a coat. Was it made, anything Velcro there? Or is it other stuff? Not on my monologue. My monologue was, my monologue was not Velcro, but a lot of the other stuff was Velcro.

Yeah. Uh, and so, yeah, but I mean, I got off and you go there and we did the chef show first. And so it's, we changed into that. Uh,

Was the Hallmark thing first? It wasn't first. No, I think it was after Chef Show. After Chef Show. Yeah, because we had to get into Washington. Chef Show? And that was... That's why they put Hallmark there, probably. So you'd have more time to go to Washington. Oh, yeah, that does buy time to get you in a wig or whatever. So in the Chef Show, your first sketch, you're feeling like 100% better, probably, once you got on there. I mean, the dress rehearsal is so nice. Because once you do that, you're like, okay...

And then you're, you know, and then I mean, it's very realistic. And they cut a few sketches that you were in. We don't know those yet, but so it's a little truncated as well. Yes. Yeah. And then, and you do it and, you know, and I felt good with Washington when,

I didn't realize the, how it goes, but when everybody's like, everybody was like, man, you, Washington got moved up a lot. So I don't really like, I don't, you know, I don't understand it at the moment, but it's like, oh, so that did really good. They want to front load the better stuff. Yes. So that, so, you know, you feel like, all right, I have some confidence now. I've done it. I've,

said these lines. I'm kind of getting the cue card thing a little bit where you're like, all right, you know, cause you're not supposed to, I'm not trying to like, just look like I'm like staring at it, like reading. Like walking. Walking always, always does that, but it works for him. Unapologetically hilarious. Yes. The Washington was pretty clever. Cause I saw you, some of the staging, you could see that you got a card and

to your left and a card to your right and a center card, right? Yeah. And then you'd kind of pick your spot. So by the time you got on air, I thought it worked great. Yeah, yeah. I was bored of getting a little too arrogant, like flip switching cards.

where I would be like in the middle of it. But the way the timing worked, I would like, you know, I could read half this here and then I could be good if I go there. By the way, I don't know what camera is on. I'm not even...

I have the either. We've only find you. That's what you just hope you go. Fucking someone film me. Yeah. Yeah. Because I didn't like Higgins was like, just look out. Like, because you because you because it's Washington kind of talking outwardly. So like if I ever got lost, I would just kind of go out.

You know what's funny, Nate? I'd see you and I've done this. You go from the left cue card to the right. But if you do it during a speech or a line, it's like jumping the Snake River. To go over there and try to remember your line and then land and find the rest of your speech, it's the ballsiest maneuver. But sometimes you do it just to look real.

Yeah. Like you're talking instead of just drill this one, drill that one. And I was like, all right, but that was a good, yeah. I like that bit because they're sort of props for you. They have a few lines, but you're basically like getting, getting the laughs. They stayed pretty wide. I don't think they had an ISO on you, like, you know, neck up or anything. Yeah. It stayed fairly wide. Yeah. Yeah. That was what it worked out. Good. I know. I think one of my timing, uh,

when I, the timing on one of them worked out and it worked out kind of just because I couldn't find the car. Like you get kind of, you're like, yeah. I mean, when you're switching the middle and you go over, it is, it's such a big jump that you're like, you get over there and you're like, ah, man, you're like, where are you? And are you black? Is the host always black, Dana? Yeah, I'm black, but you know what's fun? Yeah. I'm colorblind. So the black and green. Oh no, really? And, uh,

A black and green one with one of them with Heidi that ended up getting cut. I kept reading her line during the read. And they were like, and no one really, you know, it's not like anybody's really telling me something. Like they're kind of nice to the host. You asshole. Yeah. And I mean, I read it, I mean, five times in a row. And I was like, oh, it looks. And they just had to write Heidi next to it. Because I was like, I go back.

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Like that was like just me being me, which was nice. And that was an easy one for me to look because the car's right over punky. So it was like easy for me to get a laugh. Then they do some business, come back, you got to laugh. That's the best way to do it. Well-written. Yeah. Airplane was like that too. Yeah. Uh,

In Airplane, there's one part when Heidi, she's the mom, and she goes, well, I got a really important job. And then I say, what do you do? And she said, I'm a mother. And so we clap and then we say, all right, what about real stuff?

But that one, I forgot to say, what do you do? And so there's a pause there because they're all waiting on me to go, what do you do? And I see Wally. It's so crazy to be live on TV. Shaking the card. No one sees it. I mean, millions of people are watching it. And just Wally's like, hey.

He's like, he's pointing off. Yeah. He's just pointing off. And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, I go, so what do you do? And it's really delayed. It's like a very delayed. What do you do? Cause I just was gone. You know, I was like, but somehow it worked. It got laughs. I mean, it did. It was, uh, yeah, that, that one worked really good. And, uh, she's great.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, this cast is really good. Like, you see, Kenan is unbelievable. Yeah. I mean, it's very comforting to be in there when Kenan's in there because you just, like, and Heidi or Chloe, like, I mean, all of them are so great and some are younger, but the, you know, ones that have been there for a while, Mikey, they just, it's like, they're just very, very good. It takes a long time. If you ever, maybe this is crazy to say, if they invited you to be part of the cast...

would you do saturday night live you know i would uh it's kind of silly you're too big to be a part of the cast yeah but but would you have liked to have done it i mean do you have a little taste for it now would you like to go back and host i oh yeah i definitely would love to go back i loved i loved the whole week and then you know another one that steve higgins told me that i liked he goes uh he said it's like what you thought show business would be when you get into show business

And that, I thought that was a very good way to describe it. It's like, when you get into show business, you think it's going to be like just running around and changing and all this kind of stuff. And you know, most of show business is not that. And so I, it made me want to do, you know, I think about sitcoms and you're like, man, I like to do a multicam. You're just that live audience is so fun. And that's what we do. I, I, yeah, I loved it. I wish I would have,

Thought I could have done and not that I would have ever got it But I don't know if I don't I never even looked at SNL as an option of being an auditioning because it's like I was just doing stand-up and

and just doing this. Yeah, you barely do stand-up. But it's also, you're saying new stuff. Like, how do you handle the redundancy of stand-up? You know, because all that stuff where you were probably peaking on air with it, you know, and then you just drop it. You're not going to do George Washington's dream again. So it's all that freshness to it that's really cool. And stand-up is some nights...

You have to kind of pull up your socks and kind of go, I got to get excited. I got to get excited. I'm getting a little past my act. Do you ever feel that sometimes? It's like time to record it before I go past it and it's flat for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, well, you can have a joke. Yeah, the jokes can... Some jokes can be really good and they stop working because you just said them a hundred times and you just got to be excited. And sometimes you got to just move the stuff around in your set. I always tend to...

You can move stuff up front that you are excited about, or you can move some stuff at the end. So you almost leave yourself a little carrot to be like, well, I'm excited about this chunk. I'm going to put it towards the back. So I'm at least it keeps my excitement through the set. One joke can keep you excited. If you have a new joke that night, you're like, I'll put it here. Chris Rock says, here's his advice. I don't even know if it's good.

Of course, grab you by the shoulder, spade, because I told him I was bored of my act. Especially if you do a bunch of dates in a row. I saw your schedule. I know you're doing 600 this year. So I go rock. Sometimes by the third night, I'm like, fuck. And he goes, open with your closer. I mean, it makes sense, but it's like, open with my closing. And if you can follow that, then you got a good act. I'm like, well, I don't want to test it. What if I bum?

Dude, I tried to open in Oklahoma City with a new joke. Open? No, not open. I'll open with new jokes. I like opening with new jokes because it's the only life fun. And then you go right. They're going crazy, right?

Yeah, they're going crazy. You have a free pass for a bit. You have a free pass. So it's opening with new jokes is always great. I mean, I try to close in this weekend or this past weekend after before Saturday Night Live with a new joke that I was like, I think I can do it. It was a call. It was a new joke and it would be a callback.

So I moved my closing joke up to within the first five minutes. And then I was gonna call back with this whole new joke. And in my head, the arrogance I have that I go, I mean, I was like, if I do this, I go, I mean, I'm maybe the best comic. I'm the guy. I'm the goat. You're not better than me. And then I do it and it does not go good. It goes like you would think. And

And I had an old joke that I could do. So like, you know, you're always just kind of sitting on a little- Crutch to get off on? To get off on. In case of emergency. Yeah. Mayday, mayday, mayday. And that's why I told the comics, I go, "I think I'm gonna be able to get off on this new joke, which is gonna be crazy. I'm gonna close on a brand new joke." So get ready, everybody. Yeah. So I was like, "Be ready." And if anything, I go, "If it goes bad, then I'll just tell this old story."

And I mean, I did it two nights and they both, I told the old story on both nights. And then-

Will you try it again? Will you try it again? No, I just told the story on Seth Meyers. I just moved it. You threw it away and you gave it, yeah. I'll put it on Seth Meyers. I go, what was I thinking? Like closing? Talk show bits have less pressure than stand-up bits. Because it's a conversation. It's a conversation and there's less pressure. Like if it's amusing at all, they're like, oh, fuck, you just think of that? And you put it in your act, you move it over, and it fucking dies a miserable death. Dana, when I did this corporate last week in...

Atlanta, it was like 80 people. You know, the stage is one inch high and they're like, Hey, here's fuck face. And up here, a surprise. Half the people are excited. The other half were like, I heard it was Stevie Nicks. And then some are like, is that Stevie Nicks? So I was, I was off before I went on and they go, you want to meet the guy? And he goes, yeah. And he, uh,

I go, and he goes, hey, you know, whatever. And I go, hey, I don't even know what he does. I go, yeah, and he's got like a trophy wife with him. And I'm like, ah, I wanted to say, oh, you got a trophy wife. Fourth place. But anyway, it's still a trophy. But she was so nice and she's pretty. So I go, I can't say that. But he gives me a little nugget. We talk for two seconds, take a picture. And then he goes, sorry, it's so hot in there. I'm sweating. We're going to have food right after it.

So those two bits of information, A, they've had, they've drunk, drank it all day and they haven't had their food yet. So A, they want you to get off. B, they're too drunk. So I go up and then I go, Hey, everybody. I go, I'm here because this rich guy hired us and hired me. And, um,

He seems like a good guy. I don't even know what business you are. I know it's not air conditioning. Jenny's like, are you a magician? They couldn't believe I put that together because- They couldn't believe you thought of that. Yeah, because they're like, wait, it's so hot in here. And then they, and I'm like, if you just get one new thing like that. And then I said one other new thing to him, like just about the night, Dana does more work on that. I do two little nugs and then I go right into my act. Dogs are funny and they're immediately zonked out. Yeah.

And then I go, hey, look at this guy walking to the bar. They wake up again. Something new. Something right now he's thinking of. And then I go back to my act and they go back to sleep. You know what I mean, though? If you say anything about the tent, about this guy's job, about...

They're like, hey, this, you know, the CEO has three balls and beats his wife. Say something, work it in, you know, put it. Yeah. Well, they want you to do. I always, I always say I'm just doing my act. And if, if it's, I'll find out the company. And if like, there's, you know, I can usually say like, I don't know what y'all do. And that's enough to, you know, if you have something that comes to your mind. One thing. Uh,

But that's like, yeah, you and your old joke about when the, in your HBO special, the band, when the band comes out and goes, what's up, Arizona? You're like, oh, he knows us. Oh, yeah, the Eagles. On a dark Arizona highway, everyone's like, oh, my God. Cool Scottsdale wind in my hair. Holy shit, my friend lives in Scottsdale. They're screaming. He goes, warm smell of Sun Devil Stadium. I'm like, all right, just sing the fucking song.

fucking song. The cheapest one is What's the Town Everyone Shits On. Oh, yeah. That's the best. Anyone here from where? Naperville? In Dallas, you go, hey, a lot of hot girls here from Dallas. And a couple of rough ones from Mesquite. Everyone's like, what the

how does he do it how does he do it a magician muskie does have ratty chick i was doing the old dallas improv yeah starting out i used to do what did i do oh no i can't even do that i had an opener but it's it's not doesn't work in 2023 so nate you're gonna do uh you go so it's

You go out, you do it. The places almost can't get bigger because you don't almost want them to be bigger. It's just, it's almost overwhelming as is, right? Yeah. You can add a night. Like when you're on the road, you do these arenas and shit. Oh, yeah. Stadiums is the next up.

What for me is when I was in Nashville-- Have you been offered a stadium? I have not. No. - No. - Like 60,000. Kind of leveling off. Yeah, I go, "Yeah, we've definitely peaked." Plummet! Well, actually, Bridgestone is in Nashville, is that correct? Yeah. So I was-- when I was there, and they go, "Oh, Nate was--" Usually I try to see Nate when I'm in Nashville, right? We try to hang out. And they go, "Oh, Nate just played here." And I go,

"At this fucking place? Is this a new comedy club?" And they're like, "No, this is where the fucking basketball team plays." And I was like, "Goddamn." So that's great. That was your biggest night, right? 19,000, that was their biggest night. Yeah, yeah, it's the most ever. Yeah. -Jesus Christ. -That's a nice thing. Yeah, it was a lot. You know what, Nate? We should open a comedy club because in Nashville, is there only just Zany's or is there more? No, it's just Zany's. But there's other rooms and stuff, but...

It's crazy. It's a huge place. I mean, Austin has a couple more. And when you get these big comedy towns, most, I think it's hard for comics, like a lot of comics probably moved to Nashville. I think Theo's there, some others. But New York and L.A., when I leave, I'm like, I can't go on enough. You know, like if I, when I'm in L.A., I can do the Comedy Store and the Improv a couple times a week if I got to practice. And how do you guys all go on at Zany's?

They do Monday is New Material Night usually and then Tuesday too. And then so, you know, there's enough comics and then there's rooms everywhere. So the younger comics are going up every night at a room, at a bar, whatever. And then Zany's is kind of where we can pop in and...

It's a real comedy club. Yeah, it's a real comedy. Zany's is amazing. Yeah, Zany's is great. But the other ones are like, we have comedy night and bumper pool. And then they can do like, you know, a quick comedy night. Yeah, but I mean, Zany's, the new material night, I mean, those nights are selling out. Like, I mean, it'd be 300 people in there on a Monday. Oh, I'm sure. It's pretty much the only game in town. That place blows up. Do people do new material? Because we used to have that back in San Francisco in the day, new material night. And the guy had a horn who knew everybody's act.

So if he'd heard it before, he'd beep the horn.

Do people really honor that or are they kind of, hey, that's not new. What's he doing? Wait, what'd you say? They beep a horn if you do an old joke? Well, if they think you're doing old material to kill, you're not doing new material. And the guy would beep the horn. That's so funny. Your ears would be ringing during my act. We can't even hear the jokes. I swear to God, last time I went, you know, I

I did a special. I only done, I've only done, not that many after my HBO one and years and years ago, I never even thought of doing another one. I was just doing shows and mostly TV stuff. So it wasn't number one priority, but there's a whole world now. It's like, do a special, do a tour.

special tour with the special. And then, but when I did this one and like Alex, we have the same road manager manager and he's like, so you got all new stuff. Like I go, I just taped my special two days ago. He's like, well, you got to rotate. I'm like the whole goddamn hour. It's so hard to polish up an hour. And so I really had to get cracking and bust my hump and it's turning into another hour. But of course they're like, do another special. I'm like,

I swear to God, I get too attached to it. I want to go, this was a lot of work and I like mixing it up. Seinfeld used to say, or when he was on here, he said, these people that have five specials, you really only have an hour 15 of good material. He said the rest of it's- That you'll ever write in your whole life. To the cracks and it gets a few laughs and it goes away. But the hardcore shit, he's a big proponent of do the same stuff and just rotate around.

Yeah, that's a different, you know, that's the thing that I always bring up with you and Norm we're talking about once where Norm asked you if you came up, like it'd be both of y'all. If y'all came up today, how the climate is with standup now, because standup is becoming like musicals

where you can just, you do a special, an album, and then you go and you do tours and that's all you really gotta do. Do you think y'all would have, y'all had to go do TV. Seinfeld had to go have a TV show. Y'all had to go to Saturday Night Live. There wasn't an opportunity for y'all to do this other stuff. - No, this is new. This is new. - Well, you make a better living than most people in SAG and AFTRA. So if this is working and this is a new way to do this,

And everyone just by old school habit says, well, when are you going to do a sitcom or a movie? You don't have to by any stretch of the imagination, especially for money. It's only if you said I have more choices now. That's what happened to me. I left SNL, got on a show and then they're like, do you want this? Do you want a movie? And it was choice. You were allowed to do it.

But if you could, you could just be a standup now and be a great one and kill. And, and, and you turn into a household name, especially with the younger people because of Tik TOK and IG. We don't get the movies though. Like it's that kind of, it is fun having a movie out. Yeah. It hasn't clicked over into, you know, if you, you hope that,

you know, maybe one day the movies and the TV shows, like these people realize like how big of an audience you have and like what you can bring to, you know, like Bert did his movie, The Machine. And it's number one on Netflix. And it's, cause it's like, I mean, he's got a giant audience and he's doing everywhere in the country. He's doing thousands and thousands. It is fun to mix it up. I mean, Theo and I wrote that movie and we're figuring out a time to do it. He would have to, I would have to stop touring too, but.

He tours more than I do and more days in a row. And he would lose a chunk of money because we're doing a smaller movie. That's just the way of the world. You know, you it's fun to do a movie. It's really fun when they come out and then you go and do this. But you can't really compete with nonstop touring. Just the money just flies in. So you have to make a conscious decision to say this matters more right now.

and I'll always be able to do that. But it's hard to just put the brakes when it's just too good, you know? Yeah, you don't want to-- well, I-- it's like-- I mean, stand-up's fun, and I-- it's-- I love it, and it's-- -You're good at it. -Well, it's like the-- yeah, like, you see the strike and all that stuff, and, uh, you know, it's like you just don't have that. You just gotta-- it's that-- that's what I liked about the Saturday Night Live thing was it's the immediate-- you know, when I did that set,

even though in the moment, I don't know how it did outside of the room. -Yeah. -But you're like, "It's already out. It's done." Yeah, not good. But it's already-- It's done. It's out. And it's, like, fun to be like, "Oh, all right." Well, anything immediate is fun. SNL, I did miss that. Like, you do it, and then we go film a movie, and it takes forever to film, and it doesn't come out for a year, and you're like, "I have this movie. It's pretty funny." And by the time it comes out, you're like, "Oh, fuck, that was a year ago?"

And that's not as immediate. You're in a theater trying to get that, oh, is it working kind of thing. You get to see people laugh. But when you're shooting it, no one's allowed to laugh. I shot something today for something and the crew was told not to laugh. And I'm like, is this not working? Like, oh, they're not allowed. I'm like, it's just so weird. You want that. And you get it every night and you're a really good comedian.

And I love going on the road. I love doing the theater. I'm a tour right now. And when it works, you do get a buzz for a while afterwards. It's just fun if you're good. I feel like I just did something. Yeah. That's hard to do. Yeah. SNL is just based on procrastination and ADD, I think. And both that I have a good measure of. So I didn't realize till I left, like what a perfect thing for me because I get bored very easily. Yeah. Movies are tough that way. The only thing about standup long-term is the travel aspect.

It starts to hurt, yeah. You know, that's the only thing. SNL, when you're on SNL as a cast member, you're stationary. Yeah, yeah. That could be something that...

I look forward to, if I was able to shoot something here in Nashville where you're, I can be home and then I don't go on the road. That would be nice. But yeah, the tour, the driving around and traveling, all that. And we have a tour bus now. So that stuff helps that your stuff is kind of on a bus and you're, you know, you're not in and out of hotels. So you finish the gig and jump on the bus like a band and drive all night.

Or if it's a cross-country, you can rent the space shuttle because you have so much money and your money gone. Get the Concorde. Yeah. I took the Concorde to...

To Wendy's one day, that's how rich I was. No, I took it to Europe. Remember the Concorde? That was cool. I took it to London to promote Wayne's World. I took it to London to fucking do Tommy Boy. You could walk up and talk to the pilots. There was no cockpit door. There were just three pilots. Well, it was like coach. It was small. Yeah. And they're like, we just keep it our own things up here, you know?

And they're just three brits talking. We only crashed some of the time. That's why they had to get rid of it. They crashed. And they were like, I'm like, one crash. Who cares?

Well, they actually continued after that debris hit the engine. I don't like to fly, Nate. I, you know, I always say to someone, if you're getting a private jet, make sure it's a really good one. Never be on a budget when you're vertical. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you can't afford the good one. Just go, go regular, go Southwest. When we went to, uh, that, that premiere and, uh,

in England where no one knew who the fuck we were. Me and Farley thought we were famous. No reason we thought we were, we just thought we were because we had a movie coming out. It wasn't out yet. We thought we were the Beatles or two of them. So we go over and he goes, are you on the call court? You think you're so great? I go, are you flying with me? He goes, I'm going to Ireland because I'm Irish and I'm going to go a day early with my mom and get a shillelagh.

This fucking idiot bought a shillelagh and then he kept bringing it everywhere. He goes, it's lucky, I'm Irish. I go, God, enough. And then he forgot it and he made someone fly back and get it because he lost it. Anyway, that's so stupid. I don't even know what a shillelagh is. I was going to say, Nate. It's a stick, right? I don't know.

I don't know. I'm not... I tell the whole story. No one even knows. It's a walking stick or something. I think it was just a stick. I think Chris found a stick in the dirt. It was a stick that in Ireland cost $700. That's a walking stick. They want a shillelagh. But...

Yeah, you could. I bet CBS or somebody would. Yeah, they'd set up a studio for you in Nashville if they already probably have studios there. And you could try a half hour show. You know, you're good at it. You're good on camera. You're good with an audience. I mean, I could see you.

doing a half-hour show and crushing it, you know? Well, I mean, that's like, you know, that's what you get with that Saturday Night Live. You get that, like, man, multicam. Like, that stuff still, I think it still works and people still want that and they're just not doing it and they're not trying it. And, you know, even, like, movies. I mean, that's why Sanders movies do so well and that's why, you know, Wayne's World and Tommy Boy, like, people are still watching this because they're just super fun movies and, like, that kind of stuff interests me to kind of do that kind of thing that,

A movie or a television show or both? What would be your dream? Maybe both. No, both. I don't know. I mean, I don't know for sure, but it's both. I mean, I've always wanted to do like a Seinfeld type show or something. But, you know, and then also, I mean, I love Sandler's model of making these movies and, you know, as all you guys did them and

You know, I mean, like, the Wayne's World, like, all that. I mean, look at SNL, like, how much stuff-- Like, that's my age that kind of came up with that, and I feel like that's not around as much.

as it was. - A good, big, dumb, funny comedy. I think "World Missing" was maybe one of the last ones that David was in. - Oh yeah, "World Missing." - Just a really big, silly, fun, positive- - And it did so great. - Yeah, crushed. - It crushes. And then it's like, I just don't feel, you know, like it's like there's not enough of them and they're not at the theaters where people just wanna go have fun and laugh.

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you can maybe get a movie. You can maybe, it's very hard if people think it's so easy, but to get a movie made, to get on a sitcom, and then it's like a piece of a puzzle that's kind of just fun to have because when I see people that stop me,

It's so many different things they could like, which that's part of the fun, you know? Oh, I saw The Wrong Missy or, oh, The Emperor's New Groove, the cartoon one. So that's fun to have, just different things. And then you feel like different muscle. Movies are the hardest to do. I don't know if Dana agrees, but the hardest, but really fun when they come out and they kind of live. That's what I love the most. I mean, but to make them is hard, but I think if you can conquer Stand Up Mountain,

which Nate has, I think you can make a feature film or a sitcom. It's, it's a lot of the application, the same brain set that you figured out how to write back to back an hour of talking. That's likeable, enjoyable, funny, full of surprises. So yeah, I would encourage you to do it if you feel like it. I mean,

I think the idea of travel long run, it's nice to take breaks like Chris Rock does. He toured like crazy and then he's doing a movie, directing a film. Yeah, he came down. He was there. Him and Mulaney came Saturday. Oh, they came down. Which was very nice. Yeah. And almost more scary that they're there. Yeah, well...

yeah they came before yeah i was like did they come show me at no they came before and then i was like are y'all staying for the show and they're like yeah and i like i thought like they were just like all right man like you know like a buddy stopping in have a good show yeah before you do a stand-up yeah you know what's funny is that 30 rock i've been going in that building for 15 years without really realizing it uh

I was like Conan, Fallon, Seth Meyers. I mean, it's really all I've gone to is 30 Rock. And then, you know, then meeting you guys so much. And like, it was like, I was like doing SNL, you're like Rock and Mulaney and like Pete. You're like, you're like all these people I've been around. You're like, oh, it's all been NBC and 30 Rock and-

And you're so close to that build-- you're so close to that stage, because I think Conan's used to be one down, and Seth Jimmy's, like, two down. - Oh, yes. - But then, just-- you go up these staircase, you go up the fire thing, and then you're at a different studio, and it's huge, and you're like, "Holy fuck, this is all here?" All right there, yeah. And that-- my whole TV career has been just within those floors. And, uh...

I did Seth Meyers. Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, and that was crazy, because you just are like... We shot the sketch where I break stuff. We shot that promo, and within five minutes, I'm just on Seth Meyers. You're like, go up to Seth. Yeah, it's a great little clubhouse. Just go up a flight of stairs, go on another show. Well, Dana, we've...

Nate seems burned out. He did SNL all week. He's being a great sport to come on. He's seeing his Zoom. Yeah, thank you, Nate. He jams all his accolades crammed together in the Zoom behind him. I think that's nice. I kind of have an SNL one, yeah. Oh, you got a jam in SNL? You wore your SNL sweatshirt? I got my sweatshirt, so. Yeah. Well, Tracy Morgan, whenever I run into him, he goes, how you doing, alum?

So now we can do that. Yeah, we're all lungs now. Yeah. It's a true. Yeah, dude. I mean, it means it was awesome. It was crazy. It's something I honestly thought something that I never really, you know, I never even like let myself even think, you know, you don't want to get fake turned down from something that you think you might get. So you're just kind of like, I'm not going to get that.

That's great. Well, you're part of the culture in a different way now because of this. And also I read a review about the George Washington dream and that it lets it, it's an iconic sketch in many ways. And the ending was very cool and different with Keenan. Just, it had a, uh,

a high quality piece of writing and performance. Yeah, they wrote, I mean, a lot of people think I had some, dude, they wrote from me and they did just a great job. It's such a gift. Yeah. Isn't it crazy? They understood your rhythm and your timing is really important. And they wrote to you. And so congratulations. It doesn't always go this good. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you guys very much. All right, bud. Appreciate you taking time. I'll see you soon. And we'll talk later, buddy. All right, buddy.

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