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Anti-Vax America: The Complete Series

2025/6/21
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Stephen Monticelli: 作为一名记者,我报道了德克萨斯州爆发的麻疹疫情,这场疫情已经蔓延到其他州,并造成了人员死亡。疫情的根源在于疫苗接种率低,而疫苗接种率低的地区与共和党的政治立场密切相关。长期散布疫苗虚假信息的RFK Jr.现在身居联邦政府卫生部门的高位,他否认疫苗的重要性,并拒绝与已被揭穿的反疫苗论点划清界限。反疫苗意识形态的传播可能使我们倒退100年,那时每年有成千上万的儿童和成人因麻疹、脊髓灰质炎和天花等疾病而死亡或残疾。研究表明,接种疫苗的风险远低于感染的风险,特别是对于弱势群体。右翼政治与反疫苗信仰的结合使我们的集体免疫力面临风险。 Catherine Wells: 作为拉伯克公共卫生部门的主管,我经历了麻疹疫情爆发的紧急情况。我们采取了设立检测点、向医护人员提供麻疹信息,并开展疫苗接种工作等措施。疫苗接种诊所取得了一定的成功,一些原本犹豫不决的人现在也开始为孩子接种疫苗。在应对麻疹疫情时,我采取了与应对新冠疫情时相同的领导风格,即诚实地沟通已知和未知的信息,并基于科学依据。麻疹对儿童的影响比新冠更明显,而且我们已经知道疫苗是解决方案,但人们仍然选择不接种疫苗,这令人沮丧。由于疫苗接种和公共卫生已经政治化,因此很难向人们传达这些信息并让他们理解。为了重建信任,我们需要与当地新闻媒体合作,接听家长来电,并利用当地医生来讲述麻疹的风险。新冠疫情后,人们对政府和医疗系统产生了不信任感,这导致疫苗接种率下降。 Peter Hotez: 作为一名儿科科学家,我致力于开发被大制药公司忽视的疫苗。早在1800年代,就有人推销草药作为主流医学的替代品。反疫苗团体开始获得政治行动委员会的资金,以游说或教育州议会关于健康自由和医疗自由,甚至为候选人提供资金,让他们在反疫苗平台上竞选。人们利用健康自由的概念来反对疫苗,并推销无效的治疗方法,如伊维菌素和羟氯喹。他们推销能大量购买并从中获利的商品。反疫苗人士夸大了罕见副作用的频率,同时淡化了疾病的严重性。我是一名犹太疫苗科学家,他们认为我与乔治·索罗斯或罗斯柴尔德家族秘密合作。 Michael Phillips: 作为历史学家,我认为对医学和医生的怀疑并非完全没有道理,而是基于经验。在奴隶制时期,被奴役的男女经常成为医疗实验的不情愿的、非自愿的对象。在塔斯基吉实验中,患有性传播疾病的非裔美国男性被给予安慰剂,而不是青霉素或其他改善性治疗。医生们想知道梅毒对非裔美国男性和白人男性的影响是否相同。该实验证明梅毒对黑人和白人的影响相同。

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All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file. 

  • Viral Texas

  • Anti-Vax Genealogy

  • God's Will

  • Soft Eugenics

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