The TRUTH About Web 3: Patience Unveiled | Stevie Williams DSH #766
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That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people jump ship on Web3. You still see the long term with it, the potential in Web3. I mean, I've always seen the long term in it. The rabbit hole is deep with Web3. But patience and development is like the key. It's just that I had to form the roadmap of patience to understand how fast it changes. All right, guys. Stevie Williams here. What's popping? Got a lot going on. Can't wait to dive into it. Yeah.

Got a Web3 project, got your apparel brand. Yes. What's been the main thing these days? For real, for real, the main thing has been patience. Yeah, patience. We're getting deep off the start here. It's deep. The rabbit hole is deep with Web3. But patience and development is like the key. So I used to be really impulsive, but I've learned to...

Work on my patience. That's what I would say, yeah. That's a good word for Web3 because a lot of people jump ship on Web3. Yeah, that's why patience is a virtue. Yeah, it's crazy. But you still see the long-term with the potential in Web3? Yeah. I mean, I've always seen the long-term in it. It's just that I...

had to form the roadmap of patience to understand how fast it changes. And then also my direction has to stay straight as it changes. So yeah,

You know, you just got to just stay patient. That's my thing. Yeah, because there's a lot of people that were hyping it up on Twitter and stuff. Web3, NFTs, yeah. No, it's a real thing. It's how you use it, right, for your purpose, I would say. And if you don't have a purpose, then it could be a little difficult for it to help you with the purpose. So when I realized how beneficial it was for me and what I wanted to do,

for the long run, for what I like to do creatively, I was like, damn, it works. So, yeah, patience. Yeah, so talking about scapes, what was the vision there for that project? That's a part of the vision. So the vision for scapes is to re-identify myself in the Web3 space, but not jump so far away from who I am and what I've created and what I've done. So it's kind of like a play off of...

everything that I know creatively without like confusing people that is like Stevie Williams right because that's a whole situation in itself so I was able to recreate an image out of something that I liked when I was a kid which was urban anime and make it I mean not urban anime but uh Japanimation back in the day yeah I'm older like Dragon Ball no bro I'm older I'm gonna say like

ghost in the shell or akira i haven't heard of those yeah fist of the north star things like that where you know i've seen it i've seen what we used to like develop into a dragon ball z into everything else right um so skateboarding the backdrop the lifestyle the community which you have to build in web 3 it all made sense to say okay well damn i want to

create a new situation, a new vibe, right? And scapes represents skateboarding and apes represents the, I would say the identity of the Web3 culture. Everybody uses apes and stuff like that. So scapes, skate apes, it makes sense. So delivering fidgetal stuff was the key to making everything make sense for me because with the NFC chip or the tag,

you're able to make really cool Fidgetal products that represents the Web3 space, but it's on in real life physical products. Right. So what is Fidgetal? Fidgetal is a new term, right?

And that term describes physical products with digital assets, meaning in real life, real physical stuff that have the NFC tag attached to it, which means near field communication. Got it. Tap technology and things like that. So given the consumer experience when they purchase the brand hasn't been done before.

um, by a lot of people. Right. So, and everybody have their own style of doing it. Um, NFC tags isn't like one person's thing. It's, it's a thing. Yeah. People can develop it and all of that. So it all depends about what you do with it. Right. So I was able to narrow it down into like what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it and then developing it.

and then bringing it to life. So that's what I'm saying. It's like, it's a patient process. Yeah. It's crazy, but it's dope. It's fun. No, I feel that though. Cause I just, I visited Gary Vee's office and he had a whole team just for Vee friends, like in the office. I can only imagine what he has. Yeah. So, um, yeah, it's a long game. Yeah. It's a long game. A lot of people left the space and they're worried cause like bored apes are down a lot, but we'll see what happens.

Yeah, I would look at those as buyers, not creators. So if the buyers think that the market is down because they didn't make a certain amount of money or they flip, like whatever the case may be, whatever they was into, can't knock it, right? But if you're a creator and you believe in your project, then there's always going to be obstacles and challenges.

Non-believers. So can you get past that to succeed? Right. So I feel that it's kind of like what I'm on. Yeah. Yeah. You still watching any, uh, animes right now? No, bro. I'm so busy. I don't even have time to watch TV. I swear. As soon as I get home, I'm like cleaning, like walking my dog, feeding him,

sitting down studying a little bit more yeah i may try to catch basketball but as soon as i cut it on like i'm i'm out damn you're grinding man yeah i'm out yeah i'm going to sleep who you got winning this uh there's four teams left um i'm gonna go with uh anthony edwards oh and they're down oh one right now so that's that's a bold pick because they just lost at home yeah yeah yeah i mean i don't i

To be honest with you, I don't really care, to be honest with you. But I like to see the change of guard in things. And I think that Anthony Edwards represents and the Indiana Pacers represent a new style of fast-paced basketball that's arriving. And I think that's going to put a lot of pressure on the OGs and then the young OGs, too, because the fast-paced rhythm. Yeah.

That's what I like to watch. I could see that. Things like that. And plus, that's my son's favorite player, so I'm rooting for him. He's got a good taste in players. He does. He could have picked someone else. My son picked them all. What do you mean? Like, he picked that the Warriors were going to have a run, like, when he was young, as far as, like, when they was, like, battling the Clippers. Wow. And then he...

predicted Steph Curry being MVP. Dude. Yeah. Your son's a savant. But my son is also a basketball player, so shout out to my son. Yeah. I got to see him move, man. And his school, Bishop Alamany, won state champ this year. Damn. So he nice. Yeah, he's nice. His team is nice. They're nice together. Okay. And then he predicted Anthony Edwards. That's crazy. So I got to give him his props. Edwards was a hard pick to predict. I...

Only know him from the movie, the Adam Sandler movie, right? But I didn't know he could ball like that. But he's vicious. And to me, they already beat the champs. Damn. So, you know. I can see that. It's entertainment. How about that? Yeah. So you got a family of athletes, man, because you were a pro skateboarder. Yeah, skater. I'm still a pro. Oh, you're still skating? Yeah, I still skate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, it's just a creative house, I would say. Like my kids can go in their own creative direction. But.

Uh, we have formulas that we develop for, for roadmaps so you can follow in your life and stay on path. Wow. That's interesting. Cause a lot of households tell you to tell their kids what to do exactly. And there's not really that creative freedom, right? Yeah. I think a lot of those people were told what to do. So they only know what to tell their kids, what to do from what somebody else told them. Hmm.

My mom was, she allowed me to be a free-spirited kid. And I learned, like on the road, I learned a lot. And the things that I learned, I was able to kind of redirect my family with the help and support of them learning the learning curves and learning.

creating a roadmap for us to follow to be successful and then portraying that and them seeing that and me working hard for that every day to stay solid on my path, path of greatness, path of righteousness and the path of success. So, yeah. That's interesting because when you were pursuing skateboarding, the market wasn't huge at the time, right? Or was it? No, no, no, no. It was, it's always been a market and the goal for any skater

that wants to pursue his dream is to turn, to turn pro. Right. But I seen something different. I seen like more when I moved to Los Angeles, I seen that I could become more and the roads kind of just opened up and appeared and I went for it. So, you know, I'm blessed, definitely grateful for being in this position. And, um,

Yeah, it was just success. You had the vision, but you also executed it. I think that's good. Yeah, I always wanted to be like what I am now. My kids asked me that. My daughter, some other kids asked me, did I ever see myself being who I am now? And yeah, that's what I worked hard for. That's what I saw when I was a kid. I wanted this. So now that I have it, what do I do with it? And

That's the phase in my life where giving back, giving out positive, more accurate information on how to do things and just staying within the system of development so you can have some time for yourself to become who you want to be and things like that. I don't know. It gets deep. Yeah, I know. But it's all life stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? When you reach that pinnacle and you never get there again, it's tough sometimes, right? Yeah.

Yeah, I've lost it. I've lost it. And I feel as though I'm like getting it back. And how I got it back is different from how I had it before. So I'm more grateful for it now than I was when I was a little bit younger. Yeah, that's deep. Because when you're young, you get wrapped up in it, right? Well, yeah. My cousin Sewell, shout out to him. We got this joke about the dip, right? So you could be successful, rich, successful.

Like you can come up, right? And then within that success and within that come up, you're definitely high and everything feels like it's going to last forever. And everybody hears that story. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. But then that dip comes. And that dip is a super low test of who you truly are and if it was meant for you. Because every great, great person,

has had a dip where they had to overcome the obstacles after success to become greater than they were before the dip. And then I think that's when you get the goat status because people have to see their hero fail and how strong their hero pursues to come back. Usually they can come back, but if you don't come back from the dip,

then that's where you're at. Yeah, two people came to mind when you're talking. So Michael Jordan came to mind. For sure. And then on the other end, Antonio Brown, because he just went bankrupt yesterday. I wouldn't say that's the dip for Antonio Brown, but I would say Michael Jordan, yeah. Yeah? You don't think that's a dip though? No. What is that? I don't know what that is for him, but what they're telling us, it's financial issues, but

Who doesn't have financial issues? The average person can have that. Like, nothing to take away from Antonio Brown or anything, but I'm saying more like, I say look at Michael Jordan. Yeah. He created his own dip when he went to baseball. Right? He was ridiculed. He was tested. He was humiliated. And he stayed true. Right? He...

invested into the back the baseball team he brought light to it he learned from it he took a break from the pressure whatever else was going on but he like he took it all in the media ate him up you know like things like that like he hit maybe one home run you feel me yeah but that michael jordan one home run in a minor league was so monumental probably for him in his life that that

That his dip, when he came back from basketball, he overachieved after that humiliation, embarrassment, and people seeing a hero in a lower light. Yeah. Right? And then he was able to achieve. Things like that. I can't really identify everybody's dip, but if you know what I know—

You know, that dip is real. Yeah. And they happen. Can you bounce back from the dip? Right. And they happen more than people think, you know. It's not as naturally. It has to happen. That's life. So, yeah. So, like, when I'm like, all right, damn, did he hit the dip yet? You know, it's like, did he or did she or did the situation hit the dip? Because now you can see, okay, now they're dealing with really true adversity in the eye of the public.

scrutiny and all of that type of stuff. And then do they come back from that? How do they come back from that? Right. And then that was the testament of their, of their, of their goldness, right? Cause they don't make monuments and statues out of the week. So at the end of the day, like, are you tried and true in the eye of the public to be as strong as,

they think you are. Absolutely. And it goes for any industry. I mean, people's expectations is very, very hard. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Especially these days with social media. Oh, my God. You're getting criticized every game. Like just everything. Yeah. Person, game, whatever. Yeah, choices, you know, stuff like that. So that's why it gets deep. It gets deep. No, for real. But yeah, it applies to any industry too. Look at any successful entrepreneur. Yes. Any business owner. Anybody that you look at that has major success.

You can actually ask them about their dip and they should be able to explain to you like humbly. Um, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a thing. Can you bounce back? Yeah. Yeah. And I've had, I'm only 27, but I've definitely had a few big ones already. A few dips. Yeah. Yeah. They come. So imagine being prepared for the dip. Yeah. Right. Which you can't be, but doing that roadmap and like your, your, your guided direction of where you should be going in life.

You can expect potholes. You can expect just things to obstacles to be in your way and to setbacks. Yeah. And how to avoid those and don't put yourself into possible pushbacks. Yeah. You know. Did you experience a big one when you were skateboarding? Which one? Pushbacks? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have. Yes, for sure. Yeah, I have for sure.

Yeah, you really made a name for yourself in that industry. So I assume you went through some big dips and setbacks and stuff. Yeah, I've had some public failures. I've had some public humiliating situations. I've had financial situations. You know, it's just...

It is what it is. Yeah. But I am blessed to still be around them. Yeah. I will say not a lot of people are still around. Your longevity is impressive. You know what I mean? It's pretty crazy, though. Yeah. I mean, look, 20 years ago, like, you could probably name maybe five guys still around. Yeah. Probably. Yeah. Probably more. Probably more. Maybe more. What do you mean? Like, a level of, like, skating? Like, have maintained their level of notoriety. Yeah. Like, reputation. Yeah. That type of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. There's not many. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a pretty serious...

funny acting person but i learned like when it's time to turn it on bring it yeah then when it's time to shut it off like shut it off yeah you know when uh cause of seeing well i have different sets of friends okay you know so these sets of friends do this these sets of friends do that these sets of friends do this then i have my family interesting so with my friends i could definitely be me like i don't have to be anything that i don't want to be

But then when it comes to my family that truly knows me and how to push my buttons or knows what I'm really feeling or know how I really get down, you know, it's just those type of things that being relatable. Yeah, being relatable to multiple different things so you can make the right choice. You feel me? Yeah, yeah. Because if the choice is to have longevity, then you can't fall for...

the small quick things and you, this is my personal opinion. You just have to feel as though like you making the right choice for your longevity play and you don't like sacrifice your long-term shit for short-term things. Yeah. That's hard. Long-term. Yeah. Cause yeah. Especially with family involved too. Right.

family and forecasting not knowing what your life could be like in the future like you said you're 27 yeah yeah 27 I didn't know what my life would be like at 44 and I was nervous I was worried I carried a lot of stress I carried a lot of other people's weight and then

Being able to see the things that blossomed as far as the decisions that I chose to make, stepping up to be a dad. Yeah. Stepping up to be a better partner, learning, studying more, like, kind of stop just doing things a certain way and evolving into, like, who I think I should truly be type shit. Yeah. Yeah.

Seeing it work and then seeing the results from that. A lot of that comes from your family and how they treat you and love you and respect you and talk to you and look up to you. And those are the things that I value way more now than I did from anything else. So my whole thing changed. And that's growing up. So at 44...

I wasn't thinking like that at 27. Absolutely. I was thinking about money. No, I think about money too. But I've had to change my mindset on a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I used to be a massive people pleaser. Massive. What do you mean? Like passive aggressive people? Like I would put other people before me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I would make sure they were good before I was good. So this year or two, I had to be, I mean, selfish is kind of a negative thing to say, but I had to take a step back and think more about myself.

I'm there right now too, dog. I can't front though. Only because it feels good to see or help other people out. Right. Like it could, it could be dope to help other people out. But then if you don't get anything in return and you still anticipating some type of like reward or like. Right. Validation, satisfaction. No, for real. Like you don't get none of it.

That hurts. It does. And then you like a corny dude for trying to call people out because they didn't like meet your expectations. I try not to do that. That's what men do, right? Like real alpha shit, right? But you want the right mindset of changing that at an earlier age than somebody my age that spent an extra 20 years like letting people slide. Wow, so you did that for 20 years?

No, I'm just saying if I would have let that up to my age, but I mean, I was like that at 27. Yeah. And maybe up to like, yeah, like 40, like 38, 40. I let a lot of stuff slide on just because it was as regular as normal. It's natural. Yeah. But then, you know, some switches, people change, things change, money change, you know? Um, and then some people don't be, don't be deserving things. Yeah.

So why would you give so much of yourself to something or someone that's very undeserving? Right. That's when you got to be like, yo, no, I come first. And if you mad at me for me making sure that I'm situated first, then we got a problem. Yeah, I've done that. And you can stand on that. Then it's like you're not really there for my...

Well-being you there to like you would take her and that's the tricky thing with doing business with friends because the money can get in The way ruin the friendship paperwork. Mm-hmm. Yeah, put your home being some paperwork. Yeah, you know, that was my mistake Yeah, everybody get Knocked down. It ain't just your friends. Mm-hmm. So just being able to understand that

You may take a loss if you don't do it correctly. And you can't even get mad at the homie for burning you. You got to get mad at yourself that you wasn't prepared. Yeah, that's deep. A lot of people play the victim game, but I like that mindset. But yeah, you got to put that on yourself. Right. More so like, damn, like I didn't do it properly and I wasn't prepared to take this L.

So now I got to really take this L. But an L ain't really an L. It's a learning lesson. Right? So you learn. So if they did it, you let that slide again, then yeah, you retarded. You know what I'm saying? Like you can't. Because you know better now. Yeah. And then it's like, all right, well, I feel sorry for the next motherfucker. Absolutely. Because I'm not going to let it slide and then that'll just be an MO. And I had to learn that too. And it's not easy because you might be like a,

you know, a good-hearted dude that wanted to see people win, which is great. But people would take advantage. Yeah. Like the kindness for women. And business, for sure. Facts. That's what it's about. Business is ruthless, man. Yeah, you want to swim with the sharks, you can't be... Yeah. Can't be food. Yeah. It's interesting. I mean, I want other podcasts to succeed, but there's definitely...

can feel some negative energy sometimes, you know? Oh, when I'm having a podcast? Oh, like podcast haters? Yeah. Certain people in the comments, you know, hating on me or the guest or whatever it is. But that's social media in general, I feel like. Well, they have to hate. Like, they have to. Everybody's not going to agree, but they have to hate, bro. Don't let that shit get to you. Yeah. Yeah. Because if they wasn't hating, they wasn't watching. So if they wasn't watching...

If the haters ain't watching, then you ain't going to really have too many, like, viewers. So you got to, you have to. It may sting to hear people talk about you, but oh well. Yeah. It comes with the views, I guess. That's a good way of looking at it. You wouldn't be up here if, they wouldn't be looking at you if you wasn't grabbing their attention. Right. Right. 100%. So you need, you need both. And it's good marketing too, you know? It's good marketing when haters talk about you to other people because they already know that they haters. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. But now that hater had introduced you to somebody new and whether that person going to be the second hater. Well, at least you have two haters. You didn't have, you didn't, you didn't have two haters before you had one hater. You feel what I'm saying? No, for sure. And that hater turned into a fan. If you just stay on your path, because eventually, like if your shit is authentic,

and you speaking on some cool stuff that attracts their interest, that you could convert a hater over into a fan. I could see that, yeah. You have to. Kanye has done it a few times. Kanye? He used to have a lot of haters. Yeah, he has some crazy formulas. I don't even know what his formula is because he's an entertainer, so he get a chance to play with the algorithms in ways where... But I think it all starts with the mind of knowing that

You may disrupt some stuff, right? And then you notice a lot of backlash is going to come from you being so disruptive. But if you don't care about what people are saying because you know you created that wave, then it doesn't really affect you. Right. Thick skin. No, it's just like, why would you even care about anything that these people are talking about if you created it? Why would you care?

Because you created it. Right. So let them talk about it. Did that make sense? No, it does. Yeah. I think feedback from the right people is important. But in general, on social media, it's a lot of noise. You need feedback from the haters. You think so? Yeah. I think so. That's what I think. Okay. Because the haters are telling you everything that you don't want to hear. So even though you may not like it.

they still telling you something. Right. So if you're like, oh, fuck it, I don't want to hear what he's talking about. It's like, maybe you should. Maybe you should listen to some bad shit about yourself. I feel that though. There's some truth in the hate sometimes. It's more truth in the hate than it is in truth. That's deep. If you think about it, because the hater is going to hate and he's going to tell you everything that you know. Because that's, I think that that's what it is though. Sometimes like where you like,

So insecure or so much of a perfectionist on your own stuff. And then somebody calls out an imperfection and it makes you feel some type of way. Because only you know that imperfection is there. Everybody else may not know it's there. But if that one hater calls it out and that hater was right, then it's like, who did it affect, him or you? Right? Yeah. You feel me on that? No, I do. Yeah, so...

You need them for research and development, I would say. I'm giving out a little advice right now because if you really listen to what your haters say, you could find out what you really need to do to improve. So don't let that shit get to you. Look at it like,

Just resourceful information. Yeah. Take your feelings out of it. Yeah. That's great advice. Yeah, take your feelings out of it. I love that. I would say that. No, I feel that. I'll start reading the comments and, you know, taking them seriously. You don't got to respond, you know? It reminds me of, like, Silent Jay. Who's that? Jay and Silent Bob. I don't know. You never seen that movie? No. One of those movies, Jay and Silent Bob, where, like...

At the end of the movie, they won all of this money from doing this thing. And then they took the money and spent it on finding every person that made a shitty comment. That's funny. And they pulled up to their house and punched them in the face. It was dope. I never understood that movie part until social media just took off. Because that's what people want to do. You want to find that hater and pull up.

and like do something to them. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But if you really look at what the hater is saying and take the hate and the emotion out of it and look at it as like development for improvement, then you actually got like free, it's free tools. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So the haters kind of make sense. Yeah. Yeah. Stevie, it's been a really interesting man. I've learned a lot from you. I appreciate it. Anything, uh, you want to leave the audience with or promote?

Hell yeah. So when I was telling you about the Fidgetal stuff, I have a brand called NFCB. And that stands for Nairfield Communication Blanks. And I have blank products that have the NFC tag attached to them. So I make clothes with the NFC tag, skateboards with the NFC tag inside the deck, NFC stickers, and then also grip tape. So I started developing...

products with the NFC tag and then also developing the software as well with one of my partners called Eternal. And we've created so much cool stuff that when that comes out, I just want people to be aware of this new term and then also my brand that's going to be pushing a wave in the narrative for this. I'm not the only brand, but while I'm on stage, I'm going to plug my

the NFCB. And then when people see it, they understand that, um, when you, when you get my products, it comes with media, um, meaning like, uh, music, uh, videos, photos, social feeds, and hyperlinks, and then more features, um, as the company grows. But this feature will allow a lot of brands to, uh,

create an experience for their customers just by tapping the phone to the, to the apparel or the product. Yeah. And without downloading the app. Love it. Yeah. We'll link it below, man. That's awesome. Yeah. So, you know, thanks for letting me, uh, show my stuff on this stage because scapes is going to be powered by all of this and every brand that you see me working with personally and then, um, possibly DGK in the near future. Yeah.

We'll be using this tap technology. Yeah, we'll link it below. We'll also link escapes and check it out, guys, if you're interested in that stuff. See you next time, man. Thanks for coming on. Hell yeah. Peace.