I just, because I do want to vote yes for one of your ideas, Trevor, because I don't think I ever have. So I really do, I don't want to, because, you know, people hit me up, they're like, stop bullying Trevor. And I'm like, I'm not, I'm not bullying him. He's just like, he says crazy stuff. So as my friend and my brother, I want to support you and your ideas.

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Not wanted me to be a dictator But they were like Yeah this sounds like a cool idea So I didn't like Take power from them It just was the way it was Okay And yeah I always think of What I would do to make My world perfect And that's why I play this game I feel like Josh has come in Because last time You weren't happy With how we ran If I ruled the world He felt a bit Ganged up on Or what was that No you know I think I was more like I always come to If I ruled the world Like I ruled the world Like this should work

So then when y'all hit me with things I didn't think about, I feel like I'm not really ruling the world. I feel like my plans are falling apart. So I get a little vindictive because I'm like, all right, you asked me what I would do if I ruled the world. You didn't tell me to plug up all the holes in my logic. But remember, you have to vote. That's the game. Yeah. If I ruled the world. Mm-hmm.

Each of us takes the role of magnanimous dictator slash world leader slash king slash god person. We change the world in any way that we want. However, you have to win the votes of the other two people. We also ask everyone who listens to the show if they want to submit ideas. And then we vote on them. So let's go through some of the suggestions now. I haven't seen any of these, so I don't know. All right, let's see. If I rule the world, listener suggestions. Here we go. This is from Rebecca. Rebecca says, if I rule the world...

Absolutely not. No? That's what George W. Bush is doing now, is making art. LAUGHTER

That means some really dark stuff is going down if you have to make art. But I feel like he's doing it in reverse. He already killed all the people and now he's doing it. Okay, that's true. I think I would vote for this because I think that one of

the most humbling things in the world is like doing an art that you don't do and then try to look like an expert in the same day. You know what I mean? Like if you're like, hey, y'all, we have to invade. But then the people just saw you and they were like, bitch, you can't draw. How are you going to let us get killed and you can't draw? You know what I mean? Like you have this... So the failure. Okay, I like this. It shows yours is A. I am a yes for this. Christiana. Um...

No. You're a no. Yeah. I like it, but I'm a no. And I was a yes until Josh said his. I'll tell you why, Rebecca. No, because now I actually agree with Josh. But like, I think men are, we have like the most sensitive egos. Oh, yeah. So if you like fail at the pottery, you might invade a country to show how good you actually are. Oh, yeah.

So I agree with you, Josh, actually. So it's a no for me. Sorry, Rebecca. Fabian says, if I ruled the world, I would prohibit political careers. Everyone should have an occupation outside of politics. Government positions are a one-time thing and temporary. These positions should be considered a rare occasion to serve the nation. I vote yes immediately. I also vote yes because you really want to go out like an all-star.

Yeah, I mean, some of these people start their political career and they're saying all the right stuff. But then you could tell after like three years, they're like beat down and they try to pass the same thing over and over again. You have to be. And they get cynical. Yeah, they get cynical. And then 15 years later, they're like so...

It's like, what do you mean so? You don't even have to be there. Yeah, no career politicians. I agree. Well done, Fabian. You just got three yeses. Wow, that's a good one. All right. Senna says, if I ruled the world, I would change the curtains in fitting rooms at stores to something that provides a little more coverage because there always remains a very peek-through-able gap. And those two curtains have never fully met. Yeah.

This is very specific. This is super specific, Senna. Senna, did someone spy on you? This is wild. I feel like this is a complaint for a department store, not like a suggestion for if I... It's also like if you ruled the world, imagine you have all the power in the world and you use it to make the curtains in dressing rooms. Can I tell you right now, this person is having a good life. Because they were like, if I ruled the world, I really wouldn't change anything except for this one thing.

I mean, yes, because it's not a big deal. Yeah, I vote yes. I'm not against it. I don't see any. Yeah. Honestly, to vote against it, low key makes it seem like you like pecan. So I'm also going to vote yes. All right. So Senna, you got three yeses. Julie says, if I ruled the world, I would have government funded monthly barbecues in every neighborhood. I don't trust the government to buy my meat.

Well, they're funded. It's just funded. Oh, they're just funded. So I guess they'll just pay for you. You can go and buy your meat wherever you like. I've got so many questions. Like, do we have to show up to the barbecues? Who's doing the grilling? There's always someone to do the grilling. The neighborhood I live in, I don't know if I'd want the people to make me meat. Look, can I tell you right now, this feels like a bureaucratic way to get at the cookout.

you know what I mean I know infiltration when I see it okay there's some COINTELPRO okay ultra yeah yeah I like the sentiment though because she's trying to get people together yes yes Julie's trying to get people together I vote yes because the heart is in the right place okay uh I also vote yes the COINTELPRO was a joke I do think that

There's a world where using government funds to build community is what government should be for. Yes. Okay. I like that. I do like the idea. Okay. I'm going to go no because I think people eat too much meat already. All right. Ben comes in and says, if I ruled the world, there should be fast lanes and slow lanes on the sidewalk. I'm just going to go no because that doesn't work on the highway. People are just going to walk where they walk anyway.

And then who decides what fast is? Because you don't have a speed, you don't have a speedometer on you as a person. What is fast? What is slow? I think that fast and slow is dictated by the local community. Exactly. Because then they measure the steps of people in New York versus people in Portland. Yes. And it's like,

By and large, all New Yorkers walk faster than all people in Portland. Way faster. So it's like, I think everyone starts to figure it out once you set those lanes up. The real problem is there's actually not enough sidewalk to go around. Because you got to go this way and this way, and you have to do it fast and slow. I don't know. That's four lanes of sidewalk. I don't know. And then you've got someone like screaming at you, hey, this is the fast lane, buddy. Like, how fast are you walking? I don't know. I'm sorry, Ben. For me, it's a no.

Yeah, it's a no from me. It's getting real ableist right now. Yeah, it's a sidewalks are easy, you know? Look, Ben, I will tell you, though, if you're trying to make your own fast lane, just walk with your fists out. People will get out the way. All right, and then the last one comes from Charles, who says...

cars should have more than just a turn signal there should be a little led sign where you can send a short message to another driver like my bad i didn't mean to cut you off or your wipers are on or move over wow charles you are setting yourself up for mad max levels of fury on the road yeah you're gonna write messages on people's lights see i would be like

Sometimes I'm in the car, I'm like, oh my God, I like her hairstyle. And I'd love to be able to say it, but they can't hear me. If I could say it with my lights, that'd be amazing. You realize people are now catcalling from their cars. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even...

didn't even cross my mind. Because there's going to be guys who are like, I like your hair. Nice hair. I've been following you for a few blocks. Hey, what's your number? I don't see a baby seat in that backseat. No, I think it would be a bit rough because they would all have to be pre-planned. So we'd have to figure out like four or five messages you could say. No, you could have a dynamic one. You could just have like a dot matrix that displays the you could just you could like say it and it would just show it.

I just don't think that's a good idea. It's bad enough that we already have, like, I don't think. And how would people, like, read the light? That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying this is trouble. I mean, we're getting towards that self-driving, so you're going to have to do something. I hear you, but it's a no for me. Yeah, it's a no for me too. I mean, probably a no because I don't understand it, but yeah, yeah. Yeah.

I feel like that's what people in Congress say every week. Yeah. I'm going to vote no on this because I don't understand it. I don't really get it. But yeah. All right. Now for the big rounds. So who wants to go first?

Josh, Christiana. I'm willing to go as well. Can we like do a coin toss or pull? Oh, just go rock, paper, scissors? Oh, so Christiana, I beat Josh. Christiana beats that person. You beat me. Josh beat me and you beat Josh. So I go first. Okay, fine. Then Josh second. Okay, let's go. Christiana.

Okay. I didn't think I'd lose the game of random. I don't think you lost. Here we are. Okay. If I ruled the world, I would designate mandatory reality TV for everyone over 18 for one hour a week. You can pick whichever show you like, but you have to watch a reality TV show. You have to watch it. You have to watch a reality TV show.

Okay, now you've roped me in. Why? Because I actually think reality TV is where so much of real life is playing out that actually like narrative TV doesn't have at the moment. Like reality TV, you see lots of older women growing up.

grappling with things like alcoholism or divorce or cancer and or you see couples going through nursing somebody who's ill or then you see somebody that like just killed their wife or and they're like different races, different classes, socioeconomic groups. It's like a very good picture into the country you live in, in a way that

Often people are very siloed in their media consumption. Fox News is one thing and MSNBC is another thing. You can watch The Real Housewives of New York, Atlanta, Beverly Hills. You don't know who is a Republican. I fell in love with a woman and it turns out she's a big Trumper, but now I'm in love with her. So it's like...

There's no going back. And it helps you see the humanity in people that you would otherwise not see and get to know people that you probably don't come across in real life. It could be like you're watching a show about the Duggar family that it's not on air anymore. And you're like, oh, I'm learning about like evangelical Christians who have all of these children or the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is set in Mormon. But wait, but people can choose the reality show.

So what if everyone's just choosing a show that teaches them nothing? No, you'd be randomly assigned the show. Okay, so you don't know which show you're going to get. You don't know which show it is. And you have to watch it. Yeah, you have to do it. You have to be engaged. You can't be on your phone. I mean, you can be on your phone. I think a great thing about the reality show experience is that a lot of people tweak

live tweet when they're watching it and they're covering it on Instagram and stuff. So if you want to connect with other viewers via social media, that's great. And you wouldn't just make people watch a documentary once a week? No way, because documentaries are so boring. You've got all those talking heads. They'd be like, oh my God, and there's statistics.

I hate documentaries. Oh, my God. And especially the vanity documentaries when you've basically got access to the person. So nothing bad comes up. So no, not documentary. Let me tell you right now, documentaries have that thing. They're starting to get that thing where there's a real wrestling match going on with like, we want to tell your story, but also don't make me look bad. But also you have to give us enough stuff. I'll tell you right now, there's a...

One of the most incredible soccer players, female soccer players of all time, Hope Solo, has an incredible documentary out. And I really love the documentary because I felt like it gave me everything while still, like, not protecting her, but, like, shielding us a little bit from things that would make us judge her harshly. But there is one point in it that I really liked where they had her talking about being, like,

the real like rabid we need to get up to this level type person on the team like the jordan of the team and they use the b-roll and you could tell the b-roll she was cursing the shit out of those girls but they didn't play that b-roll because they they probably knew it wouldn't make her it wouldn't make it as good yeah and she was already telling us that's what she was doing without saying the words so she's like i could be tough on my teammates right but in the b-roll is her being like

It's like coaching while she's playing. And so I get what you're saying. Yeah, no documentary. The documentary has a filtered nature that reality TV doesn't have. And people on reality TV are by and large the most shameless human beings on the planet. They are so shameless. So you think reality TV has become more genuine than documentaries in many ways? It shows so much truth. Like, for instance, if

If you watch The Real Housewives of Potomac right now, Karen Huger is in prison for a DUI. This is a black woman. She called herself the Grand Dame. Very sophisticated, upper crust black woman. Who you didn't even believe was capable of getting drunk and being sloppy. That's the image she put out there. And in my personal life, I've been talking about black women and alcoholism.

I'm like, I know a lot of Black women who drink a lot, right? But it's not something that we talk about publicly. It's in our group chats or whatever. We're seeing it play out at brunch.

And Karen is like showing this mirror to like these experiences. And then you get, there's lots of people that go to prison for like stuff like a lot of fraud, like insurance fraud and like the time of griftery things that you have these people in these affluent suburbs that do to get their money. That I think is a very American story, but you don't necessarily talk about. So,

Yeah. You get kind of these shameless people who are a bit narcissistic, who are craving fame or attention, when I think a lot of people want attention in this country. And it makes you fall in love with people that you never thought you would fall in love with, who are very different from you.

And shameless people are sometimes the most honest. Shameless people do the same. They do things for the same reasons that we do them. But we either rationalize or like like rationalization is sort of lying to yourself about it. But then there's also the lying to the world about like, no, no, no. I did for this where a shameless person is like, I was trying to get the money. I'm trying to I got a plug. Yeah. Why would I not get the money? And it will help you understand Trump.

Oh, okay. Because people have never understood Trump. But you think reality TV helps people understand Trump more? Yeah, because he is a product. I think he is a product of reality TV. He is. He was a type of person that would go on reality TV. A lot of his facade comes from The Apprentice. Like, if you watch Trump pre-Apprentice, watch him in interviews, watch him as a person, he doesn't have the exact same vibe to him.

you know, like post-Apprentice. I think because on The Apprentice, they were like, no, you got to do this. You're fired. And they gave him the catchphrases and the look. And I think he just sort of adopted that character. And he became, yeah, I can see that. You know, when you first said that, I was firmly a no. I was like, this is a crazy idea. But I think you've won me. I think...

One, because I think you've given a good justification. But two, I just think we need to share more experiences as people. So if everyone is watching a show weekly, everywhere in the world...

I do like that everyone tomorrow has something to connect around. In the office. Yeah, yeah. I think we need more collective viewing, more collective, you know what I mean? So I'm going to vote yes to reality TV one hour every week forced upon you. Yeah. And I think it sparks conversation you would normally have to go to a very serious place to have. Like I find that like watching Love is Blind or watching Love Island gets like...

Sally and I talking about relationships in a way that's like fun because of what they're doing that has nothing to do with us because if I just walk in the apartment cold and I'm like what do you think about like when people don't know how to talk about cheating in their past laughing

It's like we're having a very different conversation now. Because then now you can't convince a person you don't mean you. But then when we watch someone on Love Island... It is a nice... Be like kind of that... It's a great catalyst. Yeah, exactly. And it helps yield moments like Trevor was saying where it's like...

very quickly one of my favorite reality TV moments of all time is on Love and Hip Hop Hollywood when these two women were arguing and you know how they get them drunk they get them drunk and they go to an event but no one at the event but them there's no event and then they get to the event and they're drunk and they're arguing and there was this one woman who had slept with this other woman's

man. And so she was trying to tell her like, you should value yourself more. And he's like, don't tell me to value myself. I value myself. He's hitting my phone, blah, blah, blah. And they're going back and forth, back and forth. Then the woman whose event it was, she like clearly has been drinking too much all day and she throws up and the other woman go, they're about to fight. And the other woman goes, did,

did you just throw up? And that is the realest moment I think I've ever seen. Like, forget the cameras for a second. Forget everything. They just pause everything. Did you just throw up? And like, she almost asked, are you okay? But then the other girl who just threw up was trying to save face. Like, yeah, you got so much plastic surgery, it makes me sick to my stomach, so you made me throw up. She was like, oh, okay, then that's what we're doing. All right, fine. But like that moment, I was like, that's a real person. So I vote yes. Yeah. And also I was going to say, I know you both voted yes.

I should mention 90 Day Fiancé. Fascinating look into...

Oh yeah, all these, you're not wrong about all of these. You're not wrong. It is a crude look into many issues that, as Josh says so eloquently, we wouldn't get into otherwise. I like it. It's a yes. Well done. Thank you guys. Just kicked it off with a double yes. Yeah, wow. That's great. I think this is my first double yes, maybe my second. Yeah, I feel like you're the only person I voted for, though. I feel like I definitely vote against Trevor every time. Everyone votes against me. Yeah, yeah. Everyone votes against me. Yeah.

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So like if somebody is willfully ignorant, because let me pitch you this, right? Let me pitch you this. Get ready.

Because I think you're against me now and you'll be with me at a second. I'm not even against you. I'm going to let you land. I'm absorbing that. I'm not against you. I'm in shock right now. Because if you are someone who, in spite of everything that you know and everything you've been told, is like, you know what? I'm going to stick a fork in the socket. And you stick the fork in the socket, it hurts you. Because your dumb idea ended up getting you hurt. It costs you nothing to tell everyone else in the room who is impressionable to put a fork in the socket. So if you...

Just by saying and knowing it's wrong, put a fork in the socket. It's essentially Pinocchio, but with pain. You know, you know that you're being willfully ignorant. You know that you're lying. You know that. And so I wouldn't put my hand on the lever. I wouldn't be controlling. But you would have to have some actual barrier because it costs people nothing to spread misinformation. And it costs people nothing to like lead people for the sake of manipulation in a way that is like willfully dumb.

Do you know what I mean? I don't mean people who don't know things yet. That's okay. This is the clarification I think I'm getting. So you're not saying...

People who quote unquote are stupid. You're not saying that. You don't mean somebody whose aptitude may not be at the level that... No, no. You're saying if somebody does or says something that they know is stupid and they're just doing it to either act the fool or drive people in the wrong direction or... But you know now. Can you give me like more concrete examples? Alex Jones would be in constant pain. LAUGHTER

That's what I mean. Someone who like, for every, because what Alex Jones does that's particularly insidious is that he plays on things where whenever it's the right time and he's on the right podcast, he's an entertainer. And he's somebody who's just like, who's just like taking the piss out of everything. Even in court, I'm taking the piss out of everything. He's saying I'm playing a character. But,

Then when it's just you and Alex and you, I mean, an impressionable person who really feels like downtrodden and you don't know who's to blame or if it's your fault or whatever, Alex is taking advantage of those people. He's catering to people who need something to blame that's like...

And they can get out there and they can like attack that person, which is why you have like Alex Jones fans like spitting on and following and harassing people who are families of victims of school shootings. Right. Yeah. But it's like Alex. No. And look, if he doesn't know, then it actually wouldn't hurt that much. But he knows he.

He knows what he's doing. And he knows when he's lying. I used to wonder if Alex was like this crazy person or if he genuinely is this grifter who knows what he's saying is false. Because the two things that made me feel like, oh, no, he knows what he's doing is any time

on the rare occasions that he is like right about something he then uses that to leverage 19 other things that have nothing to do with that thing that's the conspiracy theorist move then when the lawyer for the families who were suing Alex Jones over Sandy Hook when that lawyer said you have such an incompetent uh

council that they accidentally sent me your text messages. I sent that to the court saying, hey, I don't think they meant to send me this. So it entered into discovery. Then I let your council know that they had sent me this thing and they didn't respond. So now I have all your text messages where you're saying that you know that these things aren't true. And Alex's face, a crazy person would be like, that didn't happen or whatever. Alex's face was like, oh no. Yeah.

Yeah. So now I know that you're like bullshit. But that's why he lost the case, right? That's why he had that mess of judgments against him. And so that's what I mean. Like, it's one of those things where... What kind of pain? Okay, but this... Oh, before you go on the pain, I think I get where you're going with this and I may be able to follow. I think it needs a bit of refinement. Are you open to refinement? Yeah, open to refinement. All right, let's go. I'd be in pain if I wasn't. So...

I feel like you may be conflating being willfully dumb and maybe being malicious or maybe being opportunistic. I think we're talking about different things. I see what you're saying. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people are willfully ignorant, but not necessarily malicious intent. Like you can be willfully ignorant and you can share, you can be like...

You don't need vaccines, drink celery juice. But that's not coming from a malicious place. I think Josh wants pain for those people as well. Yeah, they actually think they're being helpful. They think they're being helpful, yeah. But the pain would clear it up for them, is what you're saying. Because this is my only pitch where I'm like, you can vote with me or against me. I won't hold it against you past today. LAUGHTER

The world that I'm proposing sans the actual pain is the world that we live in. So you can go and tell people to do all these things and you know that they're not true and you're not actually helping anybody or you think it's true and then you see people hurt. But that is the world we live in. It just takes longer and it depends on if you see the pain or not. You don't. You become president, right? You become president and you fear for your life every day because I already shot at you once. I think that like...

In my opinion, most people really aren't getting away with anything in the long run of things. This is a very karmic view of the universe. It really is, actually. Really? Like, really, like, Buddhist principles. I just feel like...

Since we're already not getting away with anything, it might as well be immediate to be your own version of correction. Because if I'm the guy holding the fork and I put it in there, I'm like, it's not worth it. I'm not going to do it again. How would they feel the pain? Who administers it? This is what I want to know. I want to know more about the pain. Who brings the pain, Josh? I think it would be as different as the person. So, for instance, I think that if I'm sitting down with Christiana and I'm like, look,

Let me tell you what the third trimester is like. I might slow down if my nose just starts bleeding a little bit. Do you know what I mean? This is so dystopian. It really is. Josh, we sent Josh away. We were like, Josh, you're too nice. And Josh went away and he read every like Orwellian novel vibe thing he could. And Josh was like, oh, I will show you because this is damn. Okay. Another question. Mm-hmm.

If somebody is like determined in their willful stupidity and they're constantly feeling pain, does it get to a point where they die? No, I don't think so. You still have the same life expectancy. You still have the same life expectancy. I think a physical representation of the thing now is there are those people that are like very like crunchy, hippie and everything and they drink silver.

because they're like no drink silver yeah and so they're like no if I drink the silver I won't need like a list of things that are actually like not that invasive and just like medically because of its antibacterial qualities I know yeah silver's great but I didn't know people were drinking it it's like it's like they will turn a little bit blue you

You'll see it on them. Yes. And then they look like what they're going through. Yeah. They'll look like what they're going through and they'll still be sick because you just drink a silver. You didn't like go to the hospital. Yeah. I mean, and I think that that version is like kind of almost the thing that I'm proposing now where it's like, you're not walking around. Oh, oh,

But I do think if you're sitting there and you know, but because of whatever biases you have, like I watched this documentary with someone who had left the neo-Nazi movement. And he said that the entire time I was in there, the entire 20 years that I was a neo-Nazi, I spent all of my days and most of my life rationalizing.

Because I was constantly being bombarded with things that showed me the world was not the way that I had both been told it was and was telling myself that it was. And so I'm like, yeah, you're already in pain to a certain degree because now this like black neighbor that you have has been incredibly nice to you and mowed your lawn and everything. Okay, but you feel like they should have gotten that pain earlier. Uh-huh.

100%. And physically. Yeah, yeah. Because now he's over here. He's this neo-Nazi who was whooping ass for 20 years. And now he's like, but I've changed. He's like, that's great. I'm glad. But man, maybe if your head hurt a little bit while you were like rationalizing. What age does the pain thing start?

I think it starts when your brain stops developing. That way everybody gets their little fair share. If you're a kid, you wouldn't even understand the pain if they gave you the pain. You wouldn't even know what's happening. Okay. I think I'm ready to vote. Trevor, you go first. I'm going to vote no. Mm-hmm.

Only because I don't think we have a clear idea of who is or isn't being stupid in society and in life. And I know it's a bit of a cop out, but I think it's true. And I think while Alex Jones is an almost easy example, I think there's some examples where people will feel pain

for the wrong reason at the wrong time and then it might shut down something that's a smart idea. Like maybe there's someone who's like, hey, the earth is round. We need to sail the other way long before everyone else is saying it. And then they're like, ah,

Like, ah! And then they don't do it. Or someone doesn't invent electricity. I'm worried about that. Yeah, it stops exploration a bit. But I will say this. I love, as Christiana said, I love the comic side of what you're saying. I do think it would be great if people experienced the ramifications of their actions a lot sooner. However, I just worry that even in our society,

finite understanding of what is and isn't stupid at the time that we're processing it we might put a lot of good people in pain who might not do something that was necessary for us because they were like i don't want the pain and i think pain pain also stops people from exploring something that might seem stupid at the time they're gonna say it but then isn't later and and you know i do love the idea but uh i'm gonna vote no unfortunately before you vote okay i'm

I will say, I'm not talking about imagination and I'm not talking, I'm talking about, I'm not even having the, my hand on the lever. Okay. You know, what's a lie and you keep telling it to people and that gives you a headache.

I think is... And so I get everything that you're saying. And I don't expect you to change your vote. But now let me ask you one question. What if somebody is lying to like... Let's say there's a government out there that's a dictatorship. And then the police come knocking on the door trying to take your family away. And then you lie to the military police. Do you feel pain? Oh, no. A lie... I'm talking about a lie that is like...

willful ignorance. I'm still not talking about having an imagination or a lie to like protect someone's feelings. You know what I mean? Okay. So it's only something where you believe the opposite completely and you are doing it... It's really only like... It's malicious. Yeah, it's really only like the...

Slightly to very malicious spread of misinformation or disinformation. I'll change my vote to yes. Wow. I did not see that coming. I'll change my vote to yes. Oh, Josh. Yeah, wow. No, no, no. You cleared it. I'll change my vote to yes. Okay. So, as somebody who recently gave birth and has given birth without drugs and has a very high pain threshold, like, I 3D printed a human through my vagina, Josh. So, like, and I was nine months pregnant. Mm-hmm.

I think you underestimate how, and then there's people that live with chronic pain, how pain can kind of just become ambient. I think you're describing very damaged people right now. I think Alex Jones needs to do a lot of spiritual work, not to like psychologize him, but this is a very damaged person. And there are certain types of people that A, have a high pain threshold, are used to chronic pain. Pain is always ambient. And there are some people who thrive off pain.

I forgot about the boners. There are people who thrive off pain. Yeah, yeah. Nope, you right. I know this woman called Laura Checkaway. She made this great documentary called Lucky about this girl who I think lives in the Bronx and she's like really charismatic and beautiful and she's covered in tattoos, right? Yeah. And...

She says in the documentary, see I showed you a non-documentary, but that's actually a really good documentary. She says they were like, why do you have all these tattoos on your face? And she'd had a really tough life. And she says, I can't really locate the pain I feel emotionally. So every time I get a

a tattoo I can feel the pain physically. Oh damn. I'm paraphrasing it now and it made me look at like you know psychic pain a bit differently and look at people that have lots of piercings and people that have lots of tattoos like they're actually trying to physically experience something that they only experience emotionally and can't often locate.

And I think that we're talking about very emotionally damaged people if you're willfully putting bad information in the world for your own gain. And I think you underestimate how many people, for whatever reasons, maybe they've had really tough lives or maybe they're sociopathic, who would actually enjoy that sensation of pain. It's making them feel something. Mm-hmm.

Jeez. Right? And I feel like Trump is in that category because of his own damage. He likes to feel like the thing that we're like, everyone thinks you're awful. You're a nasty person. He gets a rush from that pain and that criticism. And I do fear you would create a world where people would seek out that pain. You're basically saying we'd create like supervillains.

the Joker. Yeah, that's what it sounds like you're saying. you know. Damn. We're already in a world where people like,

self-harm for various reasons. And I'm just like, there's part of the human experience where pain can be very validating and offers release. My worry is that some of these bad actors feeling the pain are just going to do more bad things. And that's why it's a no, not because I don't think it's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah. No, no. Those people will probably have to be tackled. Damn, Josh, you were close. I do like the underlying

Yeah, you were close. No, I'll keep working on it. I'll keep working on it. You know what I mean? We've actually never done an If I Ruled the World that was a revised idea of an old idea. That's true. Yeah, oh, yeah. That's true. Okay, so you're going to come back? I might. Look, it might be through If I Ruled the World later. This is going to take time. Because now I forgot about a whole demographic of people and everything. Super villains. Don't forget the super villains.

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All right, so Christiana has her two votes. Josh only got one. Let's see if I can get anything out of this one. So if I ruled the world, I would make it so that every thought people are having during sex or intimacy comes out of them verbally, whether they like it or not.

This is insane. Man, this man trying to get a know. What the? Let me finish. Let me finish. Yep, yep, yep. You will be making out with somebody. And like in my world, it like comes out of everywhere. Don't worry. Don't worry about like, oh, but I'm kissing them. No, it might come out. It might play out of your ears. This is the world I'm creating. Yeah. Think of it as like having a little speaker on you. Not visible, but...

But you're making out with somebody and whatever you're thinking comes out of you. Me, oh, I need to do the washing. That's fine. Whatever it is comes out of you. And if you're having sex with somebody, whatever you're thinking, whatever they're thinking, it comes out of them. And the other person is able to hear it while this is happening. Okay. This is the whole idea. This is the complete idea, Josh. Okay. Now I will tell you why. Yeah. Okay. Tell you why.

So the reason I think this would be a great idea is for a few reasons. One, because we live in a world where nobody teaches us about sex. Nobody. We go to school. We learn about different types of clouds.

I know about cumulonimbus. I know about stratus. I know about different types of rivers, perennial, non-perennial. Nobody taught me about sex at school. Like nothing. They taught you about like the genitalia. That's not sex. They did not teach you about sex. I mean, there's a reason you can't like demonstrate sex to children. But you're not taught about sex.

And this is the thing that I... But the best way to learn about sex is sometimes experiential. No, no, no, no, no. I think there's ways you can learn about a thing without doing it. So here's the thing I think of sometimes. We'll make these arguments, but then like go watch a cartoon. They show things like... There's cartoons where they're shooting each other's heads off and getting blown up and all kinds of things. You know how many times Bugs Bunny blew off Elmer Fudd's head with a gun? But nobody said, you can't show kids somebody shooting someone's head off. I mean, someone probably should have said that. Yeah, but what I'm saying is like,

We, we, we will say, I'm, I'm saying sex is a good and natural part of life. Okay. And I'm saying in our lives, no one teaches it to us. Now I'm not saying, I'm not even saying when you brought children in, by the way, let the record show. I said nothing about children. And then Christiana all of a sudden threw children at me as if now I was saying, I just said, we don't get taught about sex. I'm saying even when we're 21, there's no sex school. You know what I mean? When we're 18, there's no sex school. So this is the first part. No one teaches us about sex. Secondly, we have done a terrible job

at working in and around consent.

Just let's be honest. We've made we've done a terrible job the me too movement came and went and what do we actually learn from it? Right Almost nothing half of the people are like well, this is why I'm not gonna have a woman in my office That doesn't seem like the lesson we were trying to learn. Do you get I'm saying but also we we didn't dive into the nuances We didn't talk about how consent is fluid and is always moving and is sometimes verbal sometimes nonverbal Sometimes culturally defy it's complicated. It's difficult. That's what I'm saying in my world. Mm-hmm

When you are being intimate with somebody, every thought you are having would be loudly and clearly projected to the other person. Okay, but Trevor, why not just do the school of sex first before you have to do the thoughts? Yes. Okay, another reason for this is because I think a lot of couples out there

have sex lives that diminish over time because they're not sharing what's in their mind and they can't like tap into it. So you hear many stories of women who are not being pleasured and they don't say it to their partner. And then like 15 years down the line, they're like,

Yeah, it wasn't working for me. The sex wasn't great. And you're like, this poor guy, he didn't know. He never got a chance. Wouldn't the school of sex help resolve that? No, no, but the school, remember, people fail in school all the time. That's okay. Failure's okay. No, no, no, no. People fail at sex all the time. Yeah, but you see, in my world, it's not about the failure nor the success. Okay.

It's just about the raw honesty that the thing would provide. Okay. Think of it the other way as well. Like there are men out there who might have like a fantasy or something they want to think about and they want to share and they can't share and then it blocks them from their partner. Both ways it can go, by the way. I don't even think it's gendered. I'm just saying these are examples.

And so I'm saying you'd be having the sex. And to your point, you might go, I have to do the washing. I have to do the dishes. I have to. And then your husband could say to you, baby, you don't worry about the dishes right now. I got you, babe. You don't need to worry about those dishes. Okay. Okay. I've got a couple.

A couple of things. You can ask as many questions as you like. So there's this guy I follow on TikTok. I forget his name. I think we should have him on the show. Yeah. He's a PhD. He's a professor who studies like boyhood and manhood. And one of the studies they did was about what men think about during sex. Okay. And they got...

these men to speak to, you know, I don't know how they conduct this experience. Probably all lies, but carry on. No, and it was very revealing. Men said they think about other men in the sense they think about what they're going to tell their friend about this sexual experience. Who are these guys? Anyway, he goes through all of these things. You see, this is what I don't like about these studies. These are lies. Sorry, carry on. These are lies. Look,

Now he's become anti-intellectual because he doesn't like it. No, these are lies. You know, in my world, ooh, he'd be like, ow, ow, ow. Okay, Josh, Josh. But he was just saying, it was interesting. Let's just ask Josh. And the men think about their insecurities. Men think, what does she think about my body? Men, it was like very vulnerable. Oh yeah, but that's everyone. Right. That part is everyone. And my thing is, I don't know if men are ready for what women think about.

about them during sex because some of it is not very nice and you can go away with a lasting scar about what she thinks about your physical appearance this is great and I think there's a reason thoughts are private I was going to say privates are private but thoughts are private no but these privates are thoughts that are going to not

be private. Here's a counter argument to what you're saying. And I'm with you completely. Remember, in my world, you will not know the before. Remember, these are the rules of if I ruled the world. The people are not going to now, it's not a new thing for them. I'm just saying for all of us, it switches tomorrow. We will not remember what it was. Okay. So everyone will be experiencing this. At some point, you will become immunized to it. No, I think people just won't have sex.

You think people, you think you can stop people from having sex? I think this could stop people from having sex. People, you know that in refugee camps, people have sex. I'm with you. I'm just letting you know now. Yeah, but those thoughts are pretty quiet. Just like the sex. But man, people have sex everywhere.

Everywhere. I'm with you. People in jail have sex. Because there are no thoughts. Yeah. Because this is what I'm, this is, I want you to win here. I want to see you succeed. So these are my questions. All right. Do you know how good the sex can be if people reveal their intimate secrets? No, why don't they just say it? No, because that's what I'm saying. In my world, they are just saying it. That's what I'm trying to say. No, because you're forcing their thoughts. I'm not forcing it. It just happens to you. But no, because you change it. It's like a fart that you can't block, but from your mind. Have you smelled fart?

Yes, but that's what... Okay, now, actually, this is a great point. If you hang out with your friends, your closest friends, people who you really love and vibe, your kids even, you tell me that farts haven't brought you closer together. People love to intellectualize so many things in this world. But let's be honest, Josh. You're hanging out with somebody close to you.

You're a couple. Any couple who's listening to this right now, you think to yourself, you're a couple, you're in bed together. One of you farts. Tell me that that moment doesn't bring joy into your lives. No, because when you have kids, you just blame it on one of the kids. Yeah, but it's funny. But it's funny. You see, it brings you something. You fart with your friends. When do you not fart? When you do not fart with people that you are not comfortable with, environments that you're not comfortable in, right? In environments. So what I'm saying is,

The fart is a great measure for where you are most comfortable. Ah, let it loose. Let it rip. But you're doing it, you're consenting to the fart coming out. Yes. Because you're comfortable. Yes, but the other person. But I'm not consenting to the thought coming out. And if I consent to the thought coming out, I just say it. That's why we have mouths. No, no, no, no, no, no. But what I'm saying is here, I'm helping people. Just letting it come out. Okay, so I have three questions. Because I, once again, I think this is a very interesting idea. Which...

When your thought comes out. Yes. Can you talk while your thought comes out? You can't talk at the same time. You can't talk at the same time as your thought comes out. You can't think a different thing to what you're saying. Okay, well...

Because you can think so fast and because you can think faster than you can speak, you could speak and then think and then the thought comes out right after the spoken word. That's true. So you could say, oh, this is the best sex I ever had. And then your brain goes, no, it's not. Yes. I need one last person to hear that. Yeah, you can do that. Yes. Then the other two things, which I feel like are the sticking points for Christianity. Can I tell you why? Let me ask you. So I'll tell you why. Because I think in my world,

I think there could be something beautiful on the other side of the friction that we would experience initially. Because yes, I understand where you're coming from. Please don't get me wrong. Even me myself, when I came up with this idea, I was like, Trevor, this is crazy. To me myself. Because I challenged myself as well. And then I thought, but think about how beautiful this moment could be. You're having sex with somebody. They go, this is the best sex I ever had. Then their brain voice comes out and goes, no, no, it's not. I've had much better sex.

Now- You wanna end a bunch of marriages. No, no, no, no, no. Now they, you can say, you wouldn't even think about, is marriage the first time you guys are having sex? No, but what if somebody is thinking about an ex or thinking about what they watched during sex? This is fine. I think that this opens us up to the world of intimacy that we often act like isn't happening already. And I think, so for instance, somebody says, this is the best sex. No, it's not. Then you could say, oh-

Why did you lie to me? Now your brain might even say that. People are going to get shot, Trevor. Christiana, why are you jumping? Men are going to shoot their wives and wives are going to stab their husbands. Okay, Christiana, you understand that people are not having sex for the first time when they're married. You're jumping straight to that. People have had sex along the way. Sure, but you've had sex along the way. You hear a thought and someone's just like, oh, her titties are lopsided.

I think you're just, and I love why the intention behind it. Like, I'm not hating on their day, for real. You want like this radical transparency and honesty and freedom. And intimacy. And liberation. Yeah, and it could be fun. It could be funny and interesting. But humans are very emotional and it could hurt. But I'm saying that would happen only because now we're in it. Remember, we'll become a little more robust as people. This is like how we are. I don't think so. This is just how we are.

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Thanks to Amazon, healthcare just got less painful. These are the sticking points I have, right? Okay. Is that one, we know this from comedy. All three of us know this from comedy, that sometimes you have a comedic thought, which is a joke. Yes. And people will see you perform the joke in a place that's also a setting for jokes. Yes. And they'll still be like, they meant it.

Okay. So now a thought that is like a sexy thought or I'm just thinking or I'm thinking whatever is going to now seem like, because remember, you can't hear the thoughts when we're not being intimate. Yes. So now the only time I hear your thoughts, it's going to be a thing that might be slightly negative or be a thing that like takes the fantasy too far. Okay. Because you got to remember for people who are in the like S&M or anything like that, there might be a moment where it's like you're consensually choking someone who wants to be choked. But in your head,

in your head you're like I'm gonna kill you and now you were never gonna kill them you were never gonna kill them but they were honestly here so now they're like okay

No, but then they would say in their brain, please don't kill me. That's why they stopped thinking. They would be like, you're going to kill me? And then your brain would go like, no, I'm not going to kill you. No, no, we're playing. We're playing. We're just playing. But now you've distracted from the thing that they were enjoying, which was the like little rough, choky thing. Because now you had to think around the thing you would have been. I can.

I can take this. I've got something as well. Okay. Because I'm married. I'm just in like married and couple lands. Yes. What does this mean for casual sex? Because most sex really that people are having, like whether it was someone you swiped on Tinder or Grindr, it's a stranger. It could be someone you met at a club. Loving it. What does it mean for casual sex? What does it mean for it? Because then...

It could be like an encounter. I think it would be great. And the guy's like, oh my God, what if my wife finds out? And you're like, what shit? But that's fantastic. You see, you're just telling me a good thing. No, that's double stabs. Now you get stabbed where you get hooked up. But remember, I said when you are being intimate. So I'm saying even like when you start kissing. And remember, I didn't just say sex. I said the intimacy, as soon as you're being intimate, it starts then. So like from the moment, you know that moment where we like,

we like look at somebody and then there's the silence then we think something then the voice would come out and be like I wonder if now is a good time to kiss them isn't there something isn't there like an app that we could I think there's just something that's an in-between I think like I like the school of sex thing that you were talking about that we don't have yes um I think there's lots of steps we can get to before this kind of black mirror world where people know sex

Stalks before you kiss. This is the only other thing that I have. But I'm not saying it's a terrible, it just feels like the most extreme version of this problem we're trying to solve. It does feel like radical honesty, but I think that there's a world where because you and I, Trevor, are both men,

And we understand what men are like. Yes. I had to sit down a couple of my friends who did not believe me when I told them there were plenty of men in this world who will act flamboyant. They'll even act gay to, like, get in with you. And now that they're your gay best friend and y'all touch or y'all play or whatever, now you're like, oh, I've never thought about you this way and I've never been with a woman. All lies. Yeah.

All lies. Again? But literally that much of a long game, and I worry that you will create Jedis.

of men who know their thoughts are gonna be heard so they're like i gotta because you gotta remember wow you gotta remember you think people will be able to control their thoughts to that point 100 percent because because this is the thing they know when it's going to be turned on so they know how they have to think for it then they know when it's going off so then they can be like okay right right after she leaves i'm saying already in this analogy yes

A lot of guys during sex are trying not to end sex. They're fighting to keep the sex going. Yes. So a lot of what you'll hear are baseball statistics. A lot of it'll just be like the great Bamboni. And so now she's like, why is he just doing numbers in his head? But I think you are spending, you are doing what I did wrong.

When I first heard about Airbnb and Uber, the first time I heard about Airbnb, I was like, this is never going to work. I remember hearing about it as a concept. They said, this is app. People stay at strangers' houses. I was like, this will never work. Nobody is going to allow a stranger to come into their home and live there. Sometimes stay with them. That'll never happen. Nobody trusts each other. Uber, I remember being like, this is the craziest idea I've ever heard. You're telling me,

People are going to drive their own car to pick you up and they don't know you. And they're not a professional driver. They're just a random driver. I was like, I don't know. And yet, look, we get into Ubers with strangers all the time. We go live at Airbnbs all the time. And yes, there's the occasional friction. I'm not saying it's perfect, but for the most part, it works.

And I honestly, both of you, as brilliant thinkers and as my friends, I hear what you're saying. But I think you're focusing on the friction side of it more than you are on what comes from the other side of it. So to your point, I think there would be something beautiful in the person who's having sex with the man going baseball stats.

And then he goes, yes, I'm trying to prolong my ejaculation. I'm trying to make sure that I don't ejaculate. Oh, just did it because I mentioned it. Yeah.

And now where are we? See, you interrupted my snaps. No, but you see, but now I think it opens up. There's an intimacy because now she can go, oh, why are you trying that hard not to ejaculate? Oh, I think there's like something that can open up in a way that right now we don't have in sex. This is what I'm saying. Why don't you just go to a sex therapist? Cristiano, how can people just afford sex therapists randomly? You rule the world. You can give sex therapy away for free. Yes, but now that's like everyone has to go through the thing and do the thing. I'm just...

Instantly. We're in it. I really need you to sell me on what the upside of this is. I'm really, I'm really, I'm not focusing on the tension. The only, the only, so the only, okay, I'll tell you that there are three upsides. I think I can help you on the upside. So there are three upsides that I think.

Upside number one, I think we lose a lot of intimacy in sex because we hide numerous things. We hide the fact that we're uncomfortable. We hide the fact that we don't know how we feel for the other person. We hide so many things that I think rob us of the intimacy that we could be experiencing. So from fresh hookups all the way to married couples. You know how many guys out there have no idea how quote-unquote terrible the sex was with the girl they were with? Mm-hmm.

And she's like, I don't know if I can. I really like the date that we went on, but that was just horrible. And this person doesn't know. They're a nice person. And then maybe they become less of a nice person because they're like, why don't I get second hookups? Or we go on dates and they like me. But this happens, right? And then also for a woman, it's like, imagine what it's like to be you in a world where you're not getting great sex because you don't want to hurt the person's feelings. But now it's not you. The thing is just happening to her. So the first thing I'm saying is I think it would open up a lot of intimacy channels. These are the upsides. I understand the downsides.

I think another thing it would do is it would help people voice the moments where they're uncomfortable, where I think sometimes the other person doesn't even know. And I think this can happen both ways. Sometimes people are uncomfortable and it would be great if your brain could just say, I'm uncomfortable. And then you go like, oh, damn, you're uncomfortable. OK, but don't you worry that by creating this shortcut, then people just aren't going to do what I think is the proper work of spending time and getting to know someone.

And whether it's your casual hookup or whether it's like people have been together for a long time, if you know their thoughts are just going to be downloaded to you, you're like, I'm not going to ask my wife about her day. I just know during sex, I'm going to hear about all that bitch in the office was talking about. No, but that depends on what people think about during sex. I think we should give people some credits.

Some people are able to really focus on this sex. We can't focus. We're on our phones all the time. No, I think there's a lot of times when people are having sex going, this feels amazing. I love this person so much. I'm so lucky. What an amazing experience. I don't want to have another kid. Yeah, whatever it might be. But I think there are those upsides. Okay. And so I'm willing to take a little bit of the friction for what I think could be a beautiful, open, honest, and

interesting conversation that we could be having during sex. This is the thing I was going to say that might help you. Who knows? People probably, I'm assuming, don't quite have sex.

some of the sensitivities that they have in our current world. That's what I mean because in Rome it's always been like this. It's always been like this. So they just know that that's what happens during sex. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. It's the same way... You're asking me, like, do I want to live in a world where this is true? That's what I mean. Because think of it this way. Thank you, Josh, actually. Because think of how crazy our current sex is. Imagine if we lived in an alternate universe and I had pitched this to you and I said...

If I ruled the world, I would make it so that whenever people orgasm, their face goes like this and then they go like, I don't think either of you would say yes to that. Sure, sure, sure. You might even say, why would anyone have sex? If you're going to end it with, why would anyone have sex? So I thank you, Josh, because that is exactly what I'm saying. Yes, to us, it is weird now because we think tomorrow it will be that. But for the people of this world that I rule,

It will be like that. There was no other way. And so I think their journey will come with different frictions, but I think a more holistic, honest and intimate experience.

Okay. I think I might be out of questions, but I guess my other thing is that not to lean heavily on the friction forever, but I guess there are things of like, even if we're having a coffee together and you just keep checking your phone, you're giving me the impression you want to be somewhere else and you want to do something else. Yes. So then when I'm like, hey, are you late? Do you need to go? Whatever. And you're like, no, no, no, I'm fine. But then you do keep doing this. Yes. That for me.

I think you'll have a hard time while sex will become more honest and more like understanding of what the experience was for both people. I wonder if you...

would not actually slightly increase the amount of bad sex because of just how the brain works. Even in your alternate universe where people know this is going to happen, there's still a level of like, sex is already the most intimate thing you can do with a person. So if they are clearly thinking about someone else or don't want to be there while consenting in a way. I think in this world we haven't considered sex workers.

And if you're a sex worker and it's your occupation, sometimes you're at your job and you're not enjoying your job. Yeah. I'm thinking about sex workers. Yeah, because if you went to a restaurant and then they're taking your order, but they're also like, dumbass forehead. Like that would be like, oh, I don't even know if I want to eat here anymore. And I just feel like for people that do sex work in this universe, because they're going to be sex work, prostitution is the oldest job in the world. Yeah. There's no multiverse where it doesn't.

You don't have it. I feel like if you're a sex worker and you know that every client is going to have insight into what you're thinking, it makes the job harder. And their work is hard enough for as it is. Okay. I'm ready for my votes. Okay. So I'm actually going to vote yes. Right? I'm voting yes because I do think there are a lot of people who don't deserve to be having sex. Right?

And this will ruin them. This will completely. We just got Doc Josh. We really got Doc Josh today. This will take them down, right? Like I said before about us being men and us like knowing what other men are like. Yes. And I'm like, if there was a thing that was not me as your friend to like one of my female friends, right, who was telling on him right now, if there was something he could do that could tell on himself, maybe you'd finally see it.

Yeah, actually, that's a good point. And I think that only in a world like this will that happen. Yeah. And so I would say, yeah, I do consider the sex work part of what you're talking about because then sex workers would have to become Jedi experts at like... But nobody can in my world. They can't do the Jedi thing? Remember, it's what's in your mind. It's what's really in your mind. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, then it's worth the takedown of terrible people. Yeah.

So I'm a vote yes. Thank you so much, Josh. No surprises. I'm going to vote no. But I actually do appreciate the problem you're trying to solve. Okay. And I think...

if the steps before getting to this like brain thing are good steps. And I just worry like a Elon Musk type could hack it or, you know, it's just, no, there's no hacking. It's in my world. It's perfect. Unhackable. The idea is not even perfect. So how can your world be perfect? But I mean, the execution is, you know what I think could have won Christiana over though, is if your world where you do this thing is like the, the,

Total Recall thing. So you put the thing on and then you can hear the thoughts. But it's like a thing that you have to switch on. No. Okay, Trevor. Because you could sway me to be a yes. If? If. Is there an opt-in, opt-out option? Oh. Oh, that's interesting. I'm in for that. So if there's opt-in, opt-out? Oh, yeah. I'm definitely in for that. Okay, I vote yes. Wait, no. Then I got to vote no. If it is, then I'm in.

How did I just lose you? Because every dude I was trying to destroy will now opt out. Or he'll convince his girl to opt out. But now wouldn't that be suspicious? Okay, I hear what you're saying there. But I mean, that would be suspicious. Imagine you're going to have sex with someone and he's like, so we both, you want to do some honest sex? And they're like, nah, I don't do that. Yeah, what do you think condoms are, bro? That's what people do half the time.

Hey, you on birth control or whatever, right? Okay. Okay. All right. So I would get a yes from you, but then I would flip to a no from you. I'm sorry. Whose vote do you value more? The opt-in is so much fun. Yeah. Opt-in, opt-out. I think it's great. The opt-in makes it so much fun. Trevor, let me tell you something about opt-in or opt-out. For couples, that can be the thing that makes it really risky. So like, are we going to wear the headset tonight?

I actually like this a lot. Just like the idea of like, yo, you want to be in my head tonight? Yeah. There's something sexy in that. So if it's opt-in, opt-out, absolutely. But if it's like a thing that, a feature all humans have in this science fiction. No, look, I like yours because it just brought more mischief into my world. But I actually like it being everyone and everything because I think sometimes people are tired and they don't want to have sex and then they have sex and then there's too many things. So I still like it. No opt-in, no opt-out, no manipulation, no one convincing you to opt-in or telling you why you should opt-out. Someone's going to make a church of opt-outers and

and be like it's sinful to opt in there'll be a whole thing okay i'm sorry then it's a no okay yeah it is a yes from me well i'll take my one vote

Josh got one vote for his If I Ruled the World. I got one vote for my If I Ruled the World. And Christiana, once again, you are the champion of If I Ruled the World. Thank you to everyone who submitted their suggestions to us, by the way. For all of you who got the yeses, I envy you. And to all of you who got the no's, I feel your pain. I feel it like Josh sent it to me in my bones.

This was fun. Thanks, y'all. Yeah, thanks. What Now with Trevor Noah is produced by Spotify Studios in partnership with Day Zero Productions. The show is executive produced by Trevor Noah, Sanaz Yamin, and Jody Avigan. Our senior producer is Jess Hackle. Claire Slaughter is our producer. Music, mixing, and mastering by Hannes Brown. Thank you so much for listening. Join me next Thursday for another episode of What Now? What Now?