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Congressman Seth Moulton Reacts to Trump’s Disaster G7 Appearance

2025/6/17
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Ben Meiselas: 特朗普在G7峰会上仅待了12小时就离开,未能与泽连斯基会面,并且在峰会上表现得像普京的代理人,这显示了他对盟友的不尊重以及对普京的偏袒。他重提俄罗斯应重返G8的观点,并声称普京只与他对话,进一步印证了他与普京之间的特殊关系。特朗普的行为不仅让盟友感到不适,也对乌克兰的局势造成了负面影响。 Seth Moulton: 我认为特朗普对盟友感到不适,并且一直站在普京一边。他在G7峰会上的言行就像是普京的傀儡,更喜欢与独裁者相处。特朗普通过社交媒体发布外交政策,这不仅对我们的盟友不利,也无法向敌人传递明确的信息。最令人担忧的是,特朗普似乎总是支持普京,即使普京做了很多糟糕的事情。如果一位将军像特朗普那样支持敌人,他会被立即视为叛徒。现在是聪明、光荣、勇敢的年轻人为国家服务的最重要时刻,因为他们可能需要有荣誉和勇气来不服从非法命令。

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This chapter analyzes Donald Trump's brief and controversial appearance at the G7 summit. His actions, including prematurely leaving the summit and praising Putin, are examined. The contrast between Trump's behavior and the importance of the G7 meeting for Ukraine is highlighted.
  • Trump left the G7 summit after approximately 12 hours.
  • He acted as Putin's agent, advocating for Russia's re-inclusion in the G7.
  • Trump's departure prevented a meeting with President Zelenskyy.

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Reflecting on Donald Trump's disastrous G7 appearance, if you even want to call it that, where he basically lasted about 12 hours in Alberta, Canada before leaving.

I go back to a June 8th, 2025 post to President Zelensky of Ukraine and how important this G7 meeting was to Ukraine and to our allies. On June 8th, President Zelensky posted, "In the coming weeks, important meetings

and negotiations will take place in Ukraine. And we're doing everything to ensure that the June summits, the G7 summit in Canada and the NATO summit in the Netherlands are not hollow. Russia only truly understands one language, the language of force that

is precisely the language that must become the working one across all formats of international engagement in the coming months. And then, of course, on Monday, Donald Trump left the G7 after being in Alberta for about 12 hours not to meet with President Zelensky on Tuesday. Then throughout Donald Trump's

brief time in Alberta, he kept on basically acting as like Putin's agent. And he talked about how the G7 should really be called the G8. Remember this? Let's play it together very well. I look forward to that. The G7 used to be the G8. Barack Obama and a person named Trudeau didn't want to have Russia in.

And I would say that that was a mistake because I think you wouldn't have a war right now if you had Russia in. And you wouldn't have a war right now if Trump were president four years ago. But it didn't work out that way. But it used to be the G8. And now it's, I guess, what's that, nine years ago, eight years ago, it switched over. They threw Russia out, which I claimed was a very big mistake, even though I wasn't in politics then. I was very loud about it. It was a mistake in that.

You spend so much time talking about Russia, and he's no longer at the table. So it makes life more complicated. But you wouldn't have had the work.

Then he says that Putin speaks to me and nobody else. He bragged about how Putin speaks to him and praised Putin as the very first thing he did when he showed up in Alberta. Here, play this. China, you're the biggest economy in the world after the United States. Well, it's not a bad idea. I don't mind that. If somebody wants to suggest China coming in, I think we suggest. But you want to have people that you can talk to. You know, they don't talk to you.

Putin speaks to me. He doesn't speak to anybody else. He doesn't want to talk because he was very insulted when he got thrown out of the G.A., as I would be, as you would be, as anybody would be. He was very insulted. And I mean, he was thrown out by Trudeau, who convinced one or two people, along with Obama. And then here's the moment where he says that he's.

And, you know, it kind of reminds me of like a little boy at like a sleepover and the other kids are like don't want to hang out with him. And so he comes up with an excuse why he had to call mommy and daddy and leave. But anyway, how weird is this when he leaves? Here, play this clip. Well, I have to be back. Very important. I want to just thank our great host.

Thank you.

Let's bring a Democratic Congress member, Seth Moulton. I mean, whether he was going back to meet with the National Security Council regarding Iran, but Congressman, he's with all of our top allies there who are trying to coordinate a strategy at the G7 for de-escalation and trying to work together. He just seems very uncomfortable with them. He's now going to miss the meeting with Zelensky. What are you making of this all?

I mean, it's typical Trump. He is uncomfortable with our allies. He doesn't like our allies.

And obviously the feeling is mutual, but this is a guy who has spent his career siding with Putin. He sounded like a Putin puppet, a Kremlin spokesman in those statements that you played earlier. And it's kind of amazing that Trump just genuinely seems to enjoy spending time with dictators more than spending time with our allies in Europe and around the world.

You know, he posted right before that disastrous dictator parade that he had this great call with Putin. He's like, Putin called me. He wished me a happy birthday. He was talking about Iran, that he knows so much about Iran, like bragging about this conversation. Then shortly after, Zelensky posts, today the Russians launched a stone cold combined attack

on our energy infrastructure. This is a spit in the face to everything the international community is trying to do to stop the war. And it happened right after Putin's conversation with Trump, after the Americans asked us not to strike Russian energy facilities. At the same time, as Putin tries to portray himself as a mediator for the Middle East and attempts to somehow assist his accomplices in Tehran, the level of cynicism is

staggering here. And again, it just, it does seem though that with Zelensky, you know, you just put this together. Donald Trump shows up in Alberta, serves as the agent of Putin, says all of those things that we hear. Tomorrow or today, Zelensky is supposed to show up on Tuesday. And then before that, Donald Trump jets

He makes all of these incredibly irresponsible posts. What does it even mean? Everybody in Tehran, a city of 9 million people, leave right now, exclamation point. Leave right now. Without...

a plan? What are we doing? How is this going to impact our troops? No one knows what's going on. I mean, I think that's problematic. Now, I mean, we know that Trump conducts foreign policy by social media, which is not a good practice. It doesn't usually go that well. It doesn't serve our allies well. It doesn't send a clear message to our enemies. But if there's one thing that you can predict about Donald Trump,

I mean, we know he's unpredictable, right? And his friends will say, oh, this is one of his strengths. You know, they never know what he's going to do. Well, if there's one thing that is predictable, it's he's going to support Vladimir Putin. It's unbelievable how many different things, situations he's been in, terrible things Putin has done. And Trump is always there backing him up. That's the one predictable thing here. He's the commander in chief of the United States. I mean, if a general officer under him were to say these things,

he would immediately be labeled a traitor. That's what we call people who aid and abet our enemies, traitors. And yet the commander in chief just keeps on doing it. - You're a veteran, you served in the Marines, multiple tours of duty in Iraq.

So I got to ask you about what you thought about that disastrous dictator parade. And, you know, one of the things that I talked about on our show last night is I think it also just made the troops look bad. I mean, I thought it was disorganized. It was low energy. I personally do not support disorganization.

Trump co-opting the 250th anniversary of the army and doing dictator parades through the center of Washington, DC. But also it was just so poorly exit. Like it just looked bad. It was bad to watch. And now I think people have certain perspectives on what they, what they observed. Well, what's your overall view? Yes. It makes look, it makes everyone look bad.

And it turns out that the U.S. Army is not great at doing Soviet-style, North Korean-style parades because that's not what people sign up to do.

That's not what they're trained to do. And it's not what they want to do. This is an important point that I think is often lost on people who haven't served, is the military hates parades. That's why the Army didn't want to do this. It's why Trump's first chief of staff, Marine General John Kelly, shut him down when he suggested this in his first term.

So it's bad for the troops. It's bad for the country. It's a bad look for a democracy. And it also, by the way, costs a lot of money. I mean, upwards of $40 million. Imagine how much veteran housing you could buy for $40 million. You could help a lot of vets with that kind of money. And this parade helped nobody.

Talk to us about that, because I haven't heard the analysis about the military hates parades. They certainly looked like they hated being there. That was for sure. And we did a video on that. Talk to us about the culture inside the military, about why just even asking them to do a parade like that, if you had the most basic understanding of military culture, you would know in the United States, you would know that that ask,

would have this result. Yeah. It's like the worst thing you get asked to do. It's the thing you dread in basic training is have to march around and, you know, and get screamed at when you're out of line, you're a little out of step or whatever. I mean, this is the hell they put you through in basic training and you go through it because you don't want to have to do it again. You get out of that, right? That's the whole point.

And so no one in the United States military signs up to be marching around. You sign up to serve your country. You sign up to go overseas. You sign up to make sure that other people don't have to fight in your place. There are a lot of different reasons people join. Marching in parades ain't one of them. And by the way, another reason you don't join the military is to go fight fellow Americans on the streets of Los Angeles.

Talk to us about that, because, you know, obviously we see the National Guard being federalized. You, as a member of the as a former member of the Marines, a veteran serving the way you did in Iraq. I'm sure, you know, you know, even the division that's there and what must be going through there.

their minds being sent to LA as Donald Trump uses the language of an invader, of invasion. And then Donald Trump has like the Putin's, you saw his post where he goes,

We're going to expand basically this war against all democratic cities. And he goes, because they are turning everybody trans, like everybody's becoming trans. So we need to stop that. And I'm, and I'm reading this thing. I mean, you're turning everybody trans and we're sending Marines to stop everybody becoming trans. What the hell am I reading? It's just, I,

I mean, you're tempted to laugh, but it is actually deadly serious because he is undermining our democracy by politicizing the military. You know, if one leader, one political party controls the military, then you don't have a fair and equal democracy anymore. Now, what do the Marines think about this? Well, I have heard that a lot of officers are considering resigning their commissions.

because they question whether this is constitutional, whether they're violating their oath to protect and defend the Constitution, not the President, the Constitution, by carrying out these orders. These are active discussions going on among Marine officers today. And it's not even the first time. I mean, I had for all my time in Iraq, in a war that I disagreed with, you know, led by a president I voted against twice,

I never questioned the lawfulness of orders we received. I didn't hear of that going on. And yet, in Trump's first term even, I heard from a lot of junior officers who were asking that question. You know, they've had their resignation letters already written, much like General Mattis did when he served as Secretary of Defense.

knowing that President Trump was likely to do something or ask them to do something unlawful. So this is a dangerous time for our country, but I do have confidence in the Marines, at least as much as you can have confidence in any military unit to do their very best to uphold the law. - So what do you say to those military officers right now who are being ordered

to patrol American cities as Donald Trump uses the language of invasion and conquest against American cities. And these are Marines that you've heard from or you know who are considering resigning as officers. How do they, if they're watching this, how do they

think about it. How do you balance that? How do you work through that, given that if you're in that position? I just have three words. Remember your oath. Remember your oath. That's what these officers, these Marines need to think about every single day. Trump doesn't care about his oath to the Constitution one bit. He's proven that over and over again. But

These Marines have their honor, their integrity, and our country.

to remember when they're put in these situations. So, I mean, it'll be difficult. But another question I frequently get these days from younger people, including people who haven't signed up for the military yet but are considering it, is can I do this? Should I serve under this commander in chief? And my answer is always, actually, this is the most important time to have smart, honorable, courageous,

young Americans serve our country because you might have to have the honor and courage to actually disobey an unlawful order, which is not an easy thing to do. It's not easy for anyone to do in those shoes. - It's horrifying, shocking that we're here having these conversations, although I do think the contrast

in seeing the peaceful protests, those No Kings protests, I believe, really showed the very best of America, seeing in cities people showing joy and love and seeing diversity, you know, and just seeing it was almost 3% of the population out there, which is a big number for mass mobilizations. Before we go, I'd love to get your take on the No Kings protests. Yeah, I mean, a hell of a lot more people than showed up for Trump's birthday parade, that's for sure.

And I was proud to speak at a couple of parades up in my corner of the world. And in both places, you know, Beverly Lynn, Massachusetts, two small cities on the North shore. I was just so impressed by the crowds. You know, actually really Swampskate. I was kind of a Swampskate Lynn thing, a small town on the shore. And about a thousand people showed up a huge percentage of the people who live in that town.

came out to just say, you know, we remember that we're Americans. We're Americans. We believe in democracy. We don't support gangs. Congress member Seth Moulton, thanks for joining us.

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