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Furious World Leaders Checkmate Trump at NATO

2025/6/26
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Charlie Angus
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Ben Meiselas: 我报道了世界各国领导人在北约峰会上如何巧妙地孤立特朗普,他们通过签订不包括美国的安保条约和协议,例如欧盟和加拿大之间新的安全协议,来实现这一目标。他们对特朗普威胁其主权的行为感到愤怒。加拿大和欧盟达成的新的防务协议是明显的例子。加拿大总理马克·卡尼在北约峰会前夕与欧盟领导人会面,宣布了一项重大的防务协议。卡尼表示,加拿大将不会回顾过去,而是期待与那些与我们有共同世界观的人建立新的关系。在这次北约峰会上,特朗普和美国显得非常渺小和虚弱。特朗普在与世界领导人在一起时显得不自在、孤立和奇怪。当被问及他是否致力于北约第五条时,特朗普含糊其辞,表示这取决于定义。他似乎更愿意谈论普京,并表示普京曾主动提出帮助解决伊朗问题。他还表示,他可能会与泽连斯基会面,但泽连斯基不应该身处目前的困境。 加拿大和欧盟签署的防务协议旨在应对不断恶化的安全环境,并共同应对威胁和挑战。该协议强调安全是相互关联和相互依存的,涵盖了从网络到太空等各个领域。欧盟和加拿大在遵守国际法方面立场一致,并致力于维护以规则为基础的国际秩序。双方还强调了对人权、民主和法治的共同承诺,以及对乌克兰的支持。卡尼总理在峰会上表示,加拿大正在超越过去,与欧盟建立更深层次的伙伴关系,涵盖国防、数字、供应链和安全等领域。这将使双方更具韧性和繁荣。他强调了在当前危险和分裂的世界中捍卫价值观和主权的重要性。他还谈到了与欧盟在应对气候变化和实现可持续发展目标方面的合作。 欧盟委员会主席乌尔苏拉·冯·德莱恩也发表了讲话,强调了欧盟和加拿大之间密切的伙伴关系,以及在国防和经济方面的合作。她提到了双方签署的安全与防务伙伴关系,以及进一步加强合作的计划,包括加拿大获得联合军事采购工具的谈判。她还强调了对乌克兰的支持,以及对自由贸易和CETA协议的承诺。 查理·安格斯则评论了美国对伊朗的军事行动,以及以色列在其中扮演的角色。他批评了内塔尼亚胡,并指出美国情报部门曾表示没有伊朗核威胁。他认为内塔尼亚胡利用战争来转移国内的腐败问题,并诱导美国卷入其中。他还批评了西方国家在加沙冲突中的不作为,并认为这给了内塔尼亚胡进一步行动的绿灯。他认为,世界正处于危险之中,需要在基层进行抵抗,并敦促领导人发表强烈的道德声明。 Donald Trump: 我致力于成为北约成员国的朋友,并帮助他们。普京打电话给我,主动提出帮助解决伊朗问题。泽连斯基处境艰难,不应该身处目前的困境。至于北约第五条,这取决于你的定义,有很多定义。 Mark Carney: 我们不会回顾过去,而是期待与那些与我们有共同世界观的人建立新的关系。我们正在超越过去,走向未来,未来是加拿大和欧盟。在这个更加危险和分裂的世界中,我们必须准备好捍卫我们的人民和价值观,维护我们的主权,保护我们的盟友。我们正在与欧盟合作,应对气候变化,实现可持续发展目标,并保护学术和科学自由。 Antonio Costa: 欧盟和加拿大是跨大西洋地区最亲密的盟友之一,我们以相似的视角看待世界,我们坚持相同的价值观,我们一直互相支持,我们将继续这样做。我们刚刚签署了欧盟-加拿大安全防御伙伴关系,这反映了我们对和平、跨大西洋安全和在建设防御能力方面进行更深入合作的共同承诺。虽然北约仍然是我们集体防御的基石,但这种伙伴关系将使我们能够更快、更好地加强我们的准备,投入更多,并更明智地投资。 Ursula von der Leyen: 加拿大和欧盟多年来一直密切合作,无论是双边还是在北约内部。加拿大自2014年以来一直领导着北约在拉脱维亚的加强前沿存在,你们正在使欧洲的东部侧翼更加强大和安全。今天我们正在加强我们的合作。我们签署了一项安全和国防伙伴关系,这将加强加拿大在欧洲快速发展的国防架构中的作用。我们将迅速启动关于加拿大加入联合军事采购工具的谈判,这将对我们的产业、人民和跨大西洋安全有利。当然,这将有利于我们继续支持乌克兰。 Charlie Angus: 内塔尼亚胡利用这场永恒的战争来躲避腐败法庭,他只是设法诱骗美国为他提供掩护。没有伊朗核威胁,美国情报部门告诉总统没有伊朗威胁。西方道德优越性的信誉死于加沙的死亡集中营。世界正在燃烧,我们有危险的总统,来自海湖庄园的黑帮正在向他的黑帮同伙内塔尼亚胡和普京在乌克兰战争中的政治纵火行为泼汽油。我们需要在基层进行抵抗,并敦促领导人发表强烈的道德声明。

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World leaders, particularly in NATO, are furious with Donald Trump's threats to their sovereignty. This led to the formation of defense pacts excluding the US, such as the Canada-EU deal. The episode analyzes Trump's actions and the resulting isolation of the United States.
  • NATO leaders are angry at Trump's threats to their sovereignty.
  • Canada and the EU signed a joint defense pact.
  • The deal excludes the US and highlights Trump's isolation.

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World leaders, and in particular, NATO leaders, are absolutely furious at Donald Trump, and they're taking action, forming joint defense pacts with each other, making deals with each other, and cutting little old Donald Trump and the United States out of their deals because Donald Trump's threats to their sovereignty. One of the most obvious examples of this in the past 48 hours

Canada and EU entered into a joint defense pact and a broader economic relationship. Yep, they entered into an actual deal. So while Donald Trump is threatening the sovereignty of Canada and calling it the 51st state, the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney, flew to Europe a day before the NATO summit at The Hague in Netherlands,

was set to take place, met with the leaders of the European Union and EU Commission, and announced a major defense deal with the European Union. And Prime Minister Carney said, "We will not be looking back. We are looking forward to new relationships

with people who share our worldviews. In other words, goodbye Donald, goodbye United States of America. And one of the things that I've noticed already at this NATO summit is how small and weak Trump and the United States look. And it's an unfortunate thing for me to say this as an American, but it is just the reality. I mean, take a look at this photo right here of just Donald Trump. Look how

uncomfortable he looks, how isolated he looks, just how bizarre and strange he looks when he's actually with world leaders, when he's in his safe space like Air Force One or Mar-a-Lago in the White House and he can yell at reporters, he sings a different tune. So before he flew to

to the NATO summit in The Hague or while he was flying. He spoke to reporters and they asked him, are you committed to Article 5 of NATO? And Donald Trump says, well, I don't know. It depends on your definition. There's lots of definitions. No, Donald, there were not a lot of definitions of Article 5's mutual defense pact, which when it was invoked in the past, was done to help the United States after 9-11. But here's what Donald Trump said. Play this clip. For example,

- It's Article 5 of NATO. - Depends on your definition. There's numerous definitions of Article 5, you know that, right? But I'm committed to being their friends. You know, I've become friends with many of those leaders and I'm committed to helping them. - And it just seems that all Donald Trump wanted to do was talk about Vladimir Putin. Here's what he had to say. "Putin called me, Putin called me." Here, play this clip. - You know, I'd like to see a deal with Russia

As you know, Vladimir called me up. He said, can I help you with Iran? I said, no, I don't need help with Iran. I need help with you. And I hope we're going to be getting a deal done with Russia. And then Trump is asked if he will meet with Zelensky. And here's what he had to say. Play this clip. Do you think you'll meet with Zelensky when you're there? Yeah, probably. I'll see him. What would you say to him? How you doing? It's a tough question.

He's in a tough situation. Should have never been there. So now talking about this joint defense pact between Canada and the European Union. Here's the headline. Canada signs defense pact with EU. The partnership will help both Ottawa and Brussels deliver NATO's new capability requirements.

But let's dig deeper. Can I show you what the defense pact actually looks like? Not a fake deal, but a real deal. Here's the defense pact. You'll see it right here. Security and defense partnership between the European Union and Canada. Let's just take a look at the preface of it here. Let's let's take a look.

The European Union and Canada face a deteriorating security environment and must tackle common threats and challenges together. Trump, what do you think they're talking about here? Our security is interconnected and interdependent. It is not limited to traditional military and defense related issues.

but is increasingly multidimensional, ranging from the rapidly evolving cyber, emerging tech and hybrid threats to maritime and outer space, including the protection of critical infrastructure and societal resilience and economic security. The EU and Canada are closely aligned in their adherence to international law,

and are united to uphold and strengthen the rules-based international order based on the purposes and principles of the United States Charter. Again, that's a reference to Trump, if you haven't realized. Respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law, and human rights underpin the cooperation between the EU and Canada."

The EU and Canada are also key and strategic partners in security and defense. As highlighted in the EU Strategic Compass for Security and Defense, the EU and Canada have longstanding cooperation in security and defense demonstrates a joint commitment to peace and security.

It goes on to talk about how in this current security environment, mutually reinforcing EU-NATO strategic partnerships is essential for Euro-Atlantic security. This partnership is implemented in line and with the agreed principles of mutual openness and transparency, EU,

inclusiveness, reciprocity in full respect of the decision-making autonomy and procedures of both organizations. And it goes on to talk about in light of the shared foreign security policy challenges, including Russia's unprovoked and unjustified war of aggression against Ukraine and

The EU and Canada are also closely aligned in their firm and enduring support of Ukraine. The EU and Canada wish to intensify their cooperation to better meet shared security challenges. So let's take a look over here what Prime Minister Mark Carney of Canada said at this special summit that took place before the NATO summit.

Here, this was the EU-Canada portion where they just met together. And Prime Minister Carney's like, we are moving beyond the past. We're not clinging to that. We're moving to the future. The future is Canada and the European Union. The message cannot be clearer. Goodbye, Trump. Goodbye, USA. Let's play this clip. So we're meeting now in that context in, as you just said, in hard times. Mm-hmm.

we might say even a hinge moment of history, a world that's more dangerous and divided, a time where the rules-based international, the global order, rules-based global order is under threat in a time when technological change is accelerating. And we really have two choices.

as a jurisdiction, as a country in this circumstance, we can nostalgically look back and long for the old order to somehow return, or we can build a new one with purpose and partnership. And as the most European of the non-European countries, Canada looks first to the European Union to build a better world. And that's what today is about. It's about building on our triple alignment of values of interests

and of trust, trust built over the years. And so today, this is a new era of cooperation. Our strategic Canada-EU or EU-Canada strategic partnership for the future will build a new and deeper relationship that brings us closer together from defense to digital

from supply chains to security. We're launching comprehensive negotiations across multiple areas of cooperation, connection, trade, security, digital, climate. And this will make us both more resilient and more prosperous. In many respects, what we're committing to from our perspective, Canada's perspective, is an ongoing process to an ever closer partnership

that will bring our people closer together. And you have more from Prime Minister Carney here talking about shared values. And you'll see this entire thing is Trump-coded about the United States disrespecting sovereignty and all of that here playing this clip. We also, in this more dangerous and divided world, must be prepared to defend our people and our values, to secure our sovereignty and protect our allies. And to these ends, we will be in...

in The Hague tomorrow with new commitments, significant commitments to our own and our mutual defense, meeting our NATO targets, further accelerating investments in coming years, but doing so, the EU and Canada, with this new security and defense partnership,

which provides for this increased cooperation across the full spectrum of security. It will help us deliver on our

new requirements for capabilities more rapidly and more effectively, will help build our industries, secure our jurisdictions. So we are very pleased to be taking this important step towards participation in SAFe as part of ReArm Readiness Europe, bringing shared expertise, joint research and innovation. You know, at its core,

Final word, Europe was born as a project of peace. And Canada over the years, over the decades, has served alongside European allies in pursuit of that peace. It's that in those circumstances from Vimy to Juneau that the world came to know the value of our strength.

But now we're working alongside the European Union to combat climate change, to achieve the sustainable development goals and to protect amongst other things, academic and scientific freedoms. In these ways, the world knows the strength of our values and this partnership, which is in defense and security and economics, really builds those strengths in both our jurisdictions

and lives up to our values. So with that, thank you for the partnership. It's not over. As you say, we have dinner, and I know in Europe, dinners are long and involve a lot of work, at least when they're in this building.

Other dinners in Europe are long and involve very little work, but this one will involve a lot of work, but so be it because we have a lot of work to do. So with that, I'll hand back for questions. Thank you. Then you had European Council President Antonio Costa. He spoke and here's what he had to say. And again, this is clearly directed at Trump. Play this clip. Together, we continue to uphold the values that unite us. At a time when the rules-based international order

is under pressure, when multilateralism is under attack, the European Union and Canada stand out as responsible, predictable and reliable partners. Here's a longer portion of that speech. Let's play it. Our 20th summit is much more than a symbolic milestone. It is a powerful political statement.

The European Union and Canada are among the closest allies in the transatlantic space. We see the world through the similar lens and we stand for the same values. We have always stood by each other and we will continue to do so. Building upon these very solid foundations, we have agreed to forge even stronger bonds.

With the support of the 27 Member States, we will take our strategic relationship to an unprecedented level of closeness. That's why today marks a turning point in our history. First, on defence. We have just signed the European Union-Canada Security Defence Partnership. It is a reflection of our mutual commitment to peace,

transatlantic security and deeper cooperation in building defense capabilities. It opens new opportunities for companies on both sides of the Atlantic. While NATO remains the cornerstone of our collective defense, this partnership will allow us to strengthen our preparedness faster and better, to invest more and to invest smarter.

On the economic front, we agreed to expand our trade flows and promote our economic security, thanks to the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement since 2017, Bilateral Trades in Goods and Services, as judged by 71%, demonstrating the tangible benefits of our free trade agreement for citizens and business alike.

CETA belongs to a new generation of trade deals. It protects workers, preserves the environment and safeguards our trademarks. Now we are working on expanding this relationship and broadening our cooperation.

Our new joint agenda will allow us to work more closely in the fields of digital trade, energy security, labor mobility and the supply of critical raw materials.

We will join forces in the global race for artificial intelligence and other breakthrough technologies. And we will also foster people-to-people ties and promote exchanges in education and innovation while firmly defending academic freedom. Together, we will fight climate change. Global problems require global collaboration.

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now more closer than ever we are looking at the world through the same lens we are sharing the same values and for sure in this meeting we uphold our partnership for a new level here's another clip from that meeting right here now we put

some of what we discussed at the G7, what we have worked on over the years into practice with the security and defense partnership. Ursula, it's crucial. It's crucial for Canada, but I think it also shows a way forward to the world. And the breadth of the ambition

but also the practical implementation of our partnership for the future is fundamental to the future of Canada. And if I may put it in one direction, of course, the union is...

under your leadership, has been moving to an ever closer union. We look forward to moving to an ever closer partnership with the European Union. Here's what Ursula von der Leyen had to say during her portion of the speech. And again, this is all anti-Trump coded right now. Play this clip. You have indeed a vast country, and I'm happy to see more of it. Same goes for you, Antonio. So we'll be back, and we're very curious to see where you will lead us to, perhaps to the Arctic.

which is so important to both of us and where we have been so clear about the EU support to our Greenlandic partners. Dear Mark, you took the helm of the G7 presidency in challenging times. And you delivered. You brought countries together at a moment when unity is more vital than ever. You helped bring focus to pressing issues, encouraged frank exchange,

And you said at this moment, we have to turn the many challenges into change. That is what we are doing today as we meet here in Brussels. As the saying goes, hard times reveal true friends. In these challenging times, we're taking huge steps forward to deepen our strategic partnership. Let me start with defense. Canada and the European Union have been working closely on this for years, both bilaterally and in NATO.

Canada has been leading NATO's enhanced forward presence in Latvia since 2014. You're making Europe's eastern flank stronger and safer. And today we're stepping up our cooperation. As you said, we signed a security and defence partnership. It will strengthen Canada's role in Europe's rapidly evolving defence architecture. And it's just the beginning.

We will now swiftly launch talks on Canada's access to a joint military procurement instrument. We call it SAFE. It's 150 billion euros. And together we will define where our cooperation can have the most value added and where we should channel joint investments. It will be good for our industries.

It will be good for our people and it will be good for the transatlantic security too. And of course it will be good for our continued support to Ukraine. Because the more we invest in the highly innovative Ukrainian industry, the more the industry will be capable and the better Ukraine can defend itself. Dear Mark, Canada has shown incredible generosity to Ukraine.

training almost 45,000 troops, welcoming the refugees. Today Ukraine needs our support more than ever. And you made it clear in Kananaskis last week: We are determined to explore further sanctions to maximize pressure on Russia to come to the negotiation table. So far the European Union and its member states have mobilized almost 150 billion euros.

The Friends of Ukraine, all of us, we must now plan for more support for 2026 and beyond. And of course, our focus is turned to the Ukrainian Recovery Conference in Rome in July. And as a key member of our donor platform, Canada is contributing significant financial support to Ukraine, crucial assistance for reconstruction projects, as well as invaluable technical assistance.

In Kananaskis, we also discussed the importance of open, stable and free trade among partners. It's a powerful foundation of our prosperity. CETA is our shared success story that illustrates this perfectly. And indeed, Antonio, you mentioned the 17% increase in trade since 2017 in numbers.

It is in 2023 alone, total trade reached an impressive 123 billion euros. And thanks to CETA, the EU's GDP grew by 3.2 billion, while Canada sees a 1.3 billion euro boost each year. So CETA stands as a strong symbol of the power of free and fair trade.

I must say 98% of our tariffs line are zero. I repeated, zero. We know that the ratification process is still ongoing, but we are committed to get this done. And then finally, I have to share with you my friend Charlie Angus.

Maple Midas through and through. Charlie Angus has become one of my best friends in the fight for democracy. You've seen him here. I always hear you saying, show more Charlie Angus. Here was Charlie Angus's take on the U.S. striking Iran. And he gave this take before Trump's fake ceasefire and before we found out that Donald Trump basically lied about all of the

that lied that the nuclear facilities were destroyed. You'll see how Charlie Angus addressed this issue. Here, play this clip. Benjamin Netanyahu looks like he's sitting on top of the world. Well, actually, he's sitting on top of a pile of bones, bombed out hospitals, thousands of dead Palestinian children, and a Middle East that is now on fire.

Netanyahu has used the forever war as a means of staying ahead of the corruption courts and he's just managed to sucker the United States into providing him cover. So no doubt he's feeling pretty good right now.

There was no Iranian nuclear threat. American Intel told the president there was no Iranian threat. Telsey Gabbard, yes, that Telsey Gabbard, the queen of mega misinformation, testified there was no Iranian threat. And just recently, in a very telling statement at Hiroshima, Ms. Gabbard stated, quote, political elites and warmongers are carelessly fomenting fear and tension between the nuclear powers. Well, Donald Trump didn't like that.

But just this past March, it was actually thought that Donald Trump might be the guy to bring the Iranian regime in from the cold.

That was when there was negotiations and diplomatic means between Tehran and Saudi Arabia as an American proxy, where they were talking about lifting the sanctions on Iran as an act of goodwill to de-escalate the nuclear program and bring Iran to the table. And Donald Trump was thought, he could be the guy to do it because, hey, he really wanted, well, he wanted then the Nobel Peace Prize, but he'd also said he never supported foreign wars. So maybe Donald Trump was the guy to make that happen.

But Benjamin Netanyahu was going to make sure that Trump was not going to deliver. Netanyahu stated immediately that the terms of conditions for Iran coming to the table would be regime change. Now think about this.

Iran is not just a country, it's one of the world's oldest civilizations. It's a country of 90 million people sitting on the third largest oil reserves in the world, the second largest natural gas reserves in the world. The idea that Tehran could be forced into regime change because Israel dropped some bombs on the city was just ridiculous. So what Netanyahu had to do is he had to sucker in the gangster from Mar-a-Lago. And hey, that's not all that hard.

Like let's face it, Trump hasn't been doing very well recently. People are accusing him of tacoing every time he has to deal with something. So why not? Start a war in the Middle East, change the channel again. But the real danger here is that now Trump has gone all in. He's been using escalating language like demanding unconditional surrender. That's a very particular kind of military term. It was used against Japan in the Second World War, which resulted in the dropping of the atom bomb.

We're in very dangerous times, my friend. So where do we stand right now? Well, let's look at Donald Trump. As president, the chump got totally played. He has damaged his credibility with his base. He has damaged his credibility on the world stage. Does he back up or does he go further? We don't know. Now, what about Israel?

Well, Israel has become more and more isolated on the world stage. Netanyahu is an indicted war criminal. They are being investigated rightly for crimes of mass genocide against the Palestinian people. So right now, Netanyahu thinks he's got all the cards in his hand, but what he's done is he's left Israel a dangerously isolated country.

outlier and the long-term implications for Israel and Israeli people I don't think are all that good. Now what about the West? Well it can be said that the credibility of Western moral superiority died in the death camp that is Gaza.

We all watched the starving children. We watched the targeting of the hospitals. We watched the targeting of aid workers. And we saw our Western leaders say nothing or tiptoe around it. And what that did was that gave Netanyahu the green light to go further. So are we going to see the Western allies standing up and rallying the world at this time to try and de-escalate?

They just don't seem to have the credibility. I really hope our Prime Minister, Mark Carney, who's demanded and called for people coming back to the table, I wish him well. But I think the West has really damaged itself at this moment. And then there's Iran. I don't know what the regime in Iran is going to do, but I think the one lesson is, is that

Giving up a nuclear option when you're facing these kind of threats of regime change is not something they're going to do. So if they weren't going to go nuclear before, they're probably going to go nuclear now. And that's the world we're in right now. The world is on fire and we have the dangerous president, the gangster from Mar-a-Lago pouring gasoline all over the political arson of his fellow gangsters, Netanyahu and Putin in the war in Ukraine.

We have to find a way, my friends, to push back, to show resistance at the grassroots level, to say, hell no, we're not going to go along, and to push our leaders to take a strong moral statement at this time. Because right now, these are very, very, very crucial moments. Well, there you have it, folks. And let me know what you think right there.

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