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Trump Gets Rude Awakening as Zelenskyy Hits Him Hard

2025/6/8
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Ben Meiselas: 在特朗普将国民警卫队调动对抗美国人并威胁派遣海军陆战队之际,泽连斯基总统直接向美国参众两院和国际社会发声,阐述击败俄罗斯的必要条件,并毫不含糊地批评特朗普的卑劣行径。他指出,特朗普政府曾承诺向乌克兰提供2万枚反无人机导弹,但特朗普却将这些导弹转至中东,此举是为了换取个人利益,即一架私人飞机,同时也在中东地区扩展其商业帝国。泽连斯基总统的言论和行动,是对特朗普不作为和亲俄立场的直接反驳,强调了乌克兰在抵抗俄罗斯侵略中的坚定决心和对国际社会支持的迫切需求。 Zelensky: 我强调普京并非如特朗普所言,只是在公园里玩耍的孩子,而是一个试图对乌克兰实施种族灭绝的邪恶独裁者。我们不能天真地认为这是一场可以放任自流的冲突。我亲眼目睹了战争给乌克兰人民带来的深重苦难,每天早上都在寻找我的家人,感受着失去亲人的痛苦。我请求国际社会,特别是美国,不要被特朗普的错误观点所迷惑,要认清俄罗斯的侵略本质,并向乌克兰提供必要的军事和道义支持,以抵抗这场关乎生死存亡的战争。我坚信,只有团结一致,才能战胜邪恶,维护世界的和平与安全。 Donald Trump: 我认为当前乌克兰与俄罗斯的冲突,就像两个孩子在公园里争吵打闹,有时最好的办法是让他们自己解决,过多的干预反而适得其反。我对普京总统表示,双方都需要停止无谓的牺牲和战斗。同时,我也表达了对乌克兰无人机袭击俄罗斯空军基地的担忧,这可能导致局势进一步升级,俄罗斯可能会采取更强硬的反击措施。我始终认为,和平谈判是解决冲突的最佳途径,各方应保持克制,避免采取可能加剧紧张局势的行动。

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President Zelenskyy directly accuses Donald Trump of diverting 20,000 anti-drone missiles destined for Ukraine to Middle Eastern countries, highlighting the severity of this action and its impact on the war effort. He emphasizes the urgent need for continued US support in strengthening Ukraine's air defenses.
  • Trump diverted 20,000 anti-drone missiles from Ukraine to the Middle East.
  • These missiles were crucial for countering Iranian Shahed drones used by Russia.
  • Zelenskyy highlights the urgent need for continued US support in air defense systems.

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As Donald Trump is directing National Guard forces against Americans and threatening to send the Marines against Americans, a real international leader, President Zelensky, is speaking to Americans, specifically his audience here is really the United States Senate and the House of Representatives, and he's speaking to the international community about what's needed to actually defeat Russia. And President Zelensky is not mincing words.

about Donald Trump's despicable behavior. So here, President Zelensky, in this interview this morning with ABC, talks about how former President Biden was about to give Ukraine 20,000 anti-drone air defense missiles.

and that this was so important to stop the Shahad drones that come from Iran and that are being used by Putin to kill innocent Ukrainians, but that Donald Trump directed those anti-drone air defense missiles

to Middle East countries when Donald Trump took that trip and then got the quid pro quo 747 private jet for himself. So Donald Trump took a gold-plated jet for himself and then took 20,000 anti-drone air defense missiles away from Ukraine and put them in the Middle East where Donald Trump is building Trump hotels and Trump properties. What a despicable piece of crap he is. Here, play this clip.

Then we counted on this project. 20,000 between us, 20,000 missiles, anti-sheikh missiles.

It was not expensive, but it's special technology. So we counted on these 20,000 missiles. Today in the morning, my minister of defense told me that the United States moved it to the Middle East. You know what, I know there's some of you who don't like when I do the name calling and say you're better than that.

Sometimes I just have to let you know how I'm feeling at a given place in time, and that's just how I felt when I said that, so whatever. President Zelensky then posts the following, "...what the Russians want is the complete destruction of life. In more than 11 years of Russia's war against Ukraine, they have brought only one new thing to our land, the most widespread Russian legacy, ruins and death."

We must continue resisting this. I thank everyone around the world who is helping. And to me, that's a subtle jab at Trump. He's not helping. The Russians are preparing to continue the war and are ignoring all peace proposals. They must be held accountable. We are working to strengthen Ukraine's air defense. We urgently need positive signals from the United States regarding air defense systems.

We are still waiting for a response to our request to purchase systems that can help. I thank the European countries for supplies. We must also achieve results in joint production of air defense systems and missiles. This is absolutely essential for our whole Europe. Only time separates us from that results. And what matters most is the shortening of that time.

Back to ABC, President Zelensky criticizes Donald Trump for comparing Russia's invasion of Ukraine and attack on innocent Ukrainians causing mass death and casualties as something that's like two boys, two kids playing around.

President Zelensky goes, Putin is not a boy. He's not a kid. He is an evil, evil dictator who is trying to have a genocide of Ukraine. Here, play this clip. Trump this week comparing it to two children fighting in a park. Sometimes you see two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other and they're fighting in a park. And you try and pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while.

And then...

President Zelensky strongly refuting that notion. We are not playing in the park with the Russians like two boys, two kids. Putin is not a kid, Zelensky said, describing him as a maniac. So we can't compare and we cannot say, OK, let them fight for a while. Zelensky adding, and it's not about President Trump. Anyone living thousands of miles away can't fully understand

Every morning.

Every morning I'm looking. I'm just looking for my family. I am looking everywhere in the flat. I still feel that it was a nightmare. I go outside. I see a father who holds his little girl's hand. And the girl is just like my dead daughter. I feel physical pain. I can't do anything about it. It is limitless.

That's why we are not kids at the playground, Zelensky says, adding Putin is a murderer who came to the park to kill kids. It is something Zelensky says he has tried to convey to President Trump, but the relationship between the two has been tumultuous. Just to remind you, when Donald Trump was in the Oval Office with Frederick Merz this past week,

Donald Trump said that really what we see here between Putin and Ukraine, it's like two young children fighting like crazy in a park. It's like two boys playing with each other. And sometimes you just got to let the boys fight. And Donald Trump, with the chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Merz, is saying there, Trump was like, that's what I told Putin during our call. That's what Putin and I discussed. Here, play this clip.

But sometimes you see two young children fighting like crazy. They hate each other and they're fighting in a park and you try and pull them apart. They don't want to be pulled. Sometimes you're better off letting them fight for a while and then pulling them apart. And I gave that analogy to Putin yesterday. I said, President.

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the worst leader, the worst human being to ever be in the White House. Forget being a leader. And I'm describing everybody who's probably stepped foot in the White House. Here, Donald Trump says, this is what Putin told him about Ukraine's drone strike.

strategic strike on Russia's Air Force capabilities, degrading about 30 to 35% of Russia's strategic Air Force fleet. 41 airplanes were destroyed. And then Donald Trump said, well, Putin says it's not going to be pretty. We're going to have to attack Ukraine pretty hard now. Here, play this clip. Some additional fighting that's going to go on. You know, he was, he attacked and they attacked pretty harshly. They went deep into Russia.

And he actually told me, I mean, I made it very clear. He said, we have no choice but to attack based on that.

It's probably not going to be pretty. So then Zelensky's asked this question. Do you think that Trump believes that Russia is winning the war? And Zelensky says, yeah, I know that's definitely what Trump believes. He says it all the time. He goes, it's not true, but Trump is under Putin's spell. Listen to what Zelensky says here. Play this clip. Does President Trump believe that Russia is winning this war, do you think? Yes. Yes.

Has he told you that? I think he's publicly said about it. And I know that he shared this information with some people around him. And I think the separation and I said a lot of times, it's not true. It's not a victory when you spent really spent one million people. What this was a powerful part of the interview where Zelensky says,

Just trust me. We understand the Russians better than Americans.

We understand him better than Trump. We know what they're doing. Trust us. We've been the ones fighting there. We're the ones who he invaded. We know their mentality. They are bad. They are evil people. They just want death, destruction, and ruin. Stop with the both sides crap. Here's President Zelensky in his own words. Play this clip. President Trump told our Terry Moran in an interview, a recent interview, that he does believe...

Putin wants peace. You think he's wrong. With all due respect to President Trump, Zelensky says, I think it's just his personal opinion. Trust me, we understand the Russians much better, the mentality of the Russians, than the Americans understand the Russians. I know for sure Putin doesn't want to stop the war. Now here was President Zelensky reflecting on

What went down in the Oval Office when Donald Trump started attacking Zelensky and saying, you don't hold the cards, you don't hold the cards. That was Trump's plan. Boom.

bully Zelensky into surrender. That was Trump's plan. Then Trump was going to steal the minerals from Ukraine in a mineral deal, just grab them all and then give Putin the other parts of Ukraine. And that was Trump's idea. Basically, the U.S. and Russia split Ukraine as two hegemonic powers. And Trump was then going to do business deals with Putin and Russia. That was Trump's plan. But

But Zelensky stood up for himself and stood up for his country. And Zelensky stood up for the free world. Here, play this clip. In February, that Oval Office visit spiraling out of control. You're right now not in a very good position.

You've allowed yourself to be in a very bad position and it happens to be right about you. You're not in a good position. You don't have the cards right now. With us, you start having cards. Right now, you're playing cards. You're playing cards. You're gambling with the lives of millions of people. You're gambling with World War III. We all saw that Oval Office chaotic, disastrous meeting.

I know after that meeting you tried to repair that relationship. Tell us what it was like in the aftermath. It's quite complicated, Zelensky said. You could watch it live and it was very clear and very straightforward. I used to remind everyone cameras don't lie. Everybody could see on their television screens.

I think the result of that meeting, I was very honest and open when I said that a small country is fighting for its life against the giant with all that evil that they brought with their army and their weapons to our land. Six hundred thirty-one children lost their lives, he said.

For some, those are numbers. But for me, he said, it's important that I defend my position. And I was trying to do that in the Oval Office. Now, here, Zelensky tells ABC this week that his country is ready for a ceasefire. And they've always been ready. He said, we've agreed to an unconditional ceasefire. Putin has not. Play this clip. Does President Trump believe that Russia is winning this war, do you think? Yes. Yes.

Has he told you that? I think he's publicly said about it, and I know that he shared this information with some people around him. And I think the separation, and I said it a lot of times, it's not true. It's not a victory to spend, really spend money

One million people. What Zelensky wants is more pressure on Putin, much stronger sanctions, which Trump has threatened but hasn't put in place. I am convinced that the president of the United States has all the powers and enough leverage, he said, to unite European leaders, adding,

They are all looking at President Trump as a leader for the free world, a free democratic world, and they are waiting for him. So he has to do it. He must.

We also asked President Zelensky about military aid from the U.S., which could be ending. He said without it, there is a greater chance Russia will win and Ukraine will suffer much more loss of life, much more. And yet he has not given up hope. Ceasefire talks, which have gotten nowhere so far, are scheduled to resume Monday. What's Donald Trump too busy doing? I mean, he was at a UFC fight last night. And if you zoom in, many suspect that, um,

He was indeed wearing a catheter last night as well. I've seen lots of speculations about that. And so we're unsure even about what his health condition is. And just look at this guy, though. I mean, this is what he's spending time doing as he's declaring martial law, not martial law, but as he wants to declare martial law, but as he's sending the National Guard against Americans, as he's

activating the Marines again, you know, potentially activating Marines against Americans. I should say moving towards what he wants to do, which is martial law, despicable stuff. Anyway, hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching.