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Trump Throws Cabinet Under the Bus with New War Plans

2025/6/23
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Ben Meiselas: 特朗普政府对伊朗的政策存在严重矛盾。在对伊朗核设施的袭击效果不佳后,特朗普总统公开呼吁伊朗进行政权更迭,这与他的国防部长和副总统此前声明的美国无意改变伊朗政权的说法相悖。此外,特朗普对袭击效果的乐观评估也与情报部门的评估不符,情报显示伊朗的核设施并未完全摧毁,且仍然控制着浓缩铀储备。我认为特朗普政府的行动和言论都显得混乱和不一致。 Donald Trump: 我认为如果伊朗现政权无法使伊朗再次伟大,那么就应该进行政权更迭。我们对伊朗核设施的袭击取得了辉煌的军事成功,夺走了他们手中的炸弹。那些反对我们行动的人,比如众议员Thomas Massey,是不爱国的,他们不希望看到伊朗被阻止发展核武器。我坚信我们所做的是正确的,是为了保护美国和世界的安全。 J.D. Vance: 我认为美国的立场很明确,我们不希望伊朗发生政权更迭。我们的目标是结束伊朗的核计划,并与伊朗就长期解决方案进行对话。我们不希望进一步扩大冲突,而是希望通过外交手段解决问题。我认为特朗普总统的言论可能被误解了,我们的政策并没有改变。 Pete Hegseth: 我认为美国的任务不是,也从来不是关于政权更迭。总统授权的行动是为了消除伊朗核计划对美国国家利益和盟友以色列构成的威胁。我们的目标是确保伊朗不会拥有核武器,而不是推翻他们的政府。我认为特朗普总统的言论可能反映了他个人的观点,但并不代表美国政府的官方政策。 Benjamin Netanyahu: 我认为对伊朗核设施的损害程度还有待观察。我们需要更多的时间来评估袭击的实际效果。现在就断言我们已经成功阻止了伊朗发展核武器还为时过早。我们将继续密切关注伊朗的核活动,并采取一切必要措施来保护以色列的安全。 Marco Rubio: 我认为伊朗是否已经下令制造核武器并不重要,重要的是他们拥有制造核武器所需的一切要素。他们拥有浓缩铀,他们正在发展洲际弹道导弹,这些都表明他们正在积极追求核武器。我们不能坐视不管,必须采取行动阻止他们。我认为特朗普总统的行动是必要的,是为了保护美国和世界的安全。 Thomas Massey: 我认为特朗普总统未经国会授权就对伊朗采取军事行动是违宪的。国会应该召回议员,辩论战争权力决议,而不是休假和筹款。我认为我们应该通过外交手段解决与伊朗的问题,而不是诉诸武力。我认为特朗普总统的行动是鲁莽的,可能会导致与伊朗的全面战争。

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Donald Trump's statements on the Iran strikes contradict those of his VP and Secretary of Defense. While his officials stated that regime change wasn't the goal, Trump's social media posts suggest otherwise, even using the slogan 'Make Iran Great Again'. The effectiveness of the strikes is also questioned, with reports suggesting that the damage wasn't as significant as initially claimed.
  • Trump's conflicting statements on regime change in Iran
  • Contradictory statements from Trump's VP and Secretary of Defense
  • Uncertainty about the effectiveness of the Iran strikes
  • US seeking China's help to prevent oil disruption

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Donald Trump is having a meltdown on late Sunday afternoon as the strikes on Iran do not seem to have been as successful as he initially claimed. He's now posting, make Iran great again, and calling for regime change. And this follows earlier today, Donald Trump's Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth,

saying that there is no intention for regime change. And then Donald Trump's vice president, J.D. Vance, went on the morning shows and said the United States is not pursuing regime change. But here Donald Trump is saying, M-I-G-A, make Iran great again and regime change. Here's what he posted.

He goes, it's not politically correct to use the term regime change, but if the current Iranian regime is unable to make Iran great again, why wouldn't there be regime change? Question mark. Make Iran great again, exclamation point, exclamation point. As our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, writes, just when the paid MAGA shills,

got done cranking out 36 hours of posts to their divided cult that this was only about nukes and not about regime change, Trump does it again. Now, this was earlier today when J.D. Vance was on Meet the Press, and he says, our view has been very clear and has not changed. We don't want regime change. Here's J.D. Vance saying it. Play this clip.

Well, look, that's up to the Israelis. But our view has been very clear that we don't want a regime change. We do not want to protract this or build this out any more than it's already been built out. We want to end their nuclear program. And then we want to talk to the Iranians about a long term settlement here. Now, here's Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

saying the mission was not and has never been about regime change, the exact opposite of what Donald Trump just posted. Play this clip. So is regime change off the table, Mr. Secretary? And to the chairman, you said the battle damage assessment is still ongoing, but do you believe that some nuclear capability in Iran remains? This mission was not and has not been about regime change.

The president authorized a precision operation to neutralize the threats to our national interests posed by the Iranian nuclear program and the collective self-defense of our troops and our ally Israel.

Now, Donald Trump is posting that the, he posted this as well about a half hour ago, the damage to the nuclear sites in Iran is said to be, quote, monumental. The hits were hard and accurate. Great skill was shown by our military. Thank you, exclamation point.

However, that's not what the intelligence seems to be showing right now. It seems that the Fordow complex was not completely destroyed. There's also a bunch of messages as well coming out from J.D. Vance and others like this from the Wall Street Journal. J.D. Vance signals that Iran still controls enriched uranium stockpile. So

So that would seem to undercut everything that Donald Trump is saying there. Also, even Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the extent of damages is still to be seen. Again, more hedging right there. Also, this is what CNBC was reporting moments ago. U.S. is now calling on China to

to prevent Iran from closing the Strait of Hormuz and disrupting global oil flows. So the United States, which was once a superpower, now has to go and beg China's leader, Xi Jinping, to help stop Iran from disrupting global oil flows. So Trump is begging Xi Jinping right now. That's what is taking place.

Also, Donald Trump is posting the following. Just look at the way this visually looks. It looks like a crazy person wrote this. And Donald Trump in this message is attacking Thomas Massey of Kentucky. And here's what he says. Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky is not MAGA, even though he likes to say he is.

Actually, MAGA doesn't want him, doesn't know him, and doesn't respect him. He is a negative force who almost always votes no, no matter how good something may be. He's a simple-minded grandstander who thinks it's good politics for Iran to have the highest level nuclear weapon, while at the same time yelling death to America at every chance they get. Iran is a good person.

Iran has killed and maimed thousands of Americans and even took over the embassy in Tehran under the Carter administration. We had a spectacular military success yesterday, taking the bomb right out of their hands, and they would use it if they could. But as usual, and despite the praise and accolades received,

This lightweight congressman is against what was so brilliantly achieved last night in Iran. Mosse is weak, ineffective, and votes no on virtually everything put before him. Rand Paul Jr. And then Donald Trump goes on and just continues to whine there. But you see, oh, you know I had to do it. Moink.

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Republicans for basically reiterating what Donald Trump's campaign position was, which was no wars in the Middle East. But of course, we know that Trump was lying. Donald Trump also posted the following. He refers to himself as Donnacht.

He spells his name wrong. Here's what he posts. The great B-2 pilots have just landed safely in Missouri. Thank you for a job well done. Then he spells his name Donnacht, D-O-N-A-K-D, J. Trump, President of the United States. And it's just, you know, post after post like this, looking incredibly, incredibly erratic.

What other information are we learning right now as well? There's something called Pickaxe Mountain, that there's another Iran, lesser known underground nuclear facility that's actually deeper than Fordow, which may have enriched uranium as well, or may be a place where there is nuclear capabilities.

Iran is claiming that they've been able to remove the nuclear capabilities before the attack on Fordow. Lots of leaders in Iran are claiming that the Trump regime choreographed when the strikes would take place because the Trump regime was hoping it would just be a one-off strike.

the way they killed Soleimani in 2020, and then that the Trump regime would just move on. And that enabled Iran to move some of its weapons or move some of its materials outside of those facilities. We also know that Iran's foreign minister,

He's now taking a trip to meet with Vladimir Putin. As we speak, he's going to be flying to Russia as part of a defense pact deal.

Russia and Iran that Donald Trump clearly does not or didn't know about or take into account for. But if Trump knew basics about politics, he would know that. You have Israel media, Channel 13, reporting the following. The Iranian nuclear program cannot be destroyed with bombs, even if we attack it for another year with the Americans. So it seems as though

It is becoming more clear that this attack was not as effective as advertised. The Trump regime is changing its view on it, and now it's regime change and make Iran great again. I want to share this with you because this happened a little bit earlier as well, where you had Marco Rubio on Face the Nation, and he was asked,

Why would you do this if your intelligence said that Iran couldn't build a nuclear weapon anytime soon? And Rubio goes, well, that's irrelevant. Here, play this clip. Are you saying there that the United States did not see intelligence that the Supreme Leader had ordered weaponization?

That's irrelevant. I see that question being asked in the media. That's an irrelevant question. They have everything they need to build a weapon. That is the key point in U.S. intelligence assessments. You know that. No, it's not. Yes, it was. No, it's not. The political decision had not been made. I know that better than you know that, and I know that that's not the case. But I'm asking you whether the order was given. And the people who say that...

It doesn't matter if the order was given. They have everything they need to build nuclear weapons. Why would you bury things in a mountain 300 feet under the ground? Why do they have 60% enriched uranium? You don't need 60% enriched uranium. The only countries in the world that have uranium at 60% are countries that have nuclear weapons because they can quickly make it 90. They have all the elements. Why do they have a space program? Is Iran going to go to the moon? No. They're trying to build an ICBM so they can one day put a warhead on it.

Now why would that be relevant?

Wouldn't that be most relevant before getting the U.S. into protracted wars in Iran? And finally, Donald Trump's been attacking, again, MAGA Republican Thomas Massey for basically saying the things that Trump was saying before. And here's Thomas Massey this morning on Face the Nation. You can see for yourself. Let's play it. The Speaker of the House, who is from your own party, has really rejected this. He says the Article 1 Power of Congress...

really allows for the president to do this. It was a limited, necessary, targeted strike, he says. Well, he's probably referring to the War Powers Act of 1973, but that's been misinterpreted. There was no imminent threat to the United States, which was what would authorize that. And I think that's peculiar to hear that from the Speaker of the House. Look,

Congress was on vacation last week when all this was happening. You haven't been briefed. We haven't been briefed. They should have called us all back. And frankly, we should have debated this war powers resolution that Ro Khanna and I offered instead of staying on vacation and doing fundraisers and saying, oh, well, the president's got this under control. We're going to cede our constitutional authority.

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