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Yikes! MAGA Mike Gets Torn to Shreds by His Own Party

2025/6/4
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Ben Meiselas
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Elon Musk
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Ben Meiselas: 作为MeidasTouch的主持人,我认为MAGA Mike Johnson正在被自己的党派背叛,因为他们反对他的预算案。甚至在Elon Musk公开反对后,一些投票支持该法案的MAGA共和党议员也开始反对它,这显示了MAGA共和党内部的混乱和分裂。 Scott Perry: 我觉得这个大规模的、令人震惊的、充满猪肉的国会支出法案是一个令人厌恶的邪恶之物。我同意Elon Musk的观点,应该谴责众议院领导层。我希望每次自由党团发出警报但没人听,最终以惨痛的教训发现我们是对的时候,我都能得到一分钱。我们希望参议院在法案返回众议院之前做出重大改进。 Rand Paul: 我个人同意Elon的观点,我们都看到了大规模的政府浪费支出,并且我们知道再增加5万亿美元的债务是一个巨大的错误。我们中的一些人正试图阻止国会让美国破产。我的反对不是关于减税,而是因为这将使赤字增加5万亿美元。如果共和党人都投票支持它,共和党人将拥有债务,他们将失去他们的高尚道德立场。 Mike Lee: 我认为联邦支出已经变得过度,由此产生的通货膨胀伤害了美国人并使政府武器化。参议院可以使这个法案更好,现在必须这样做。 Marjorie Taylor Greene: 我承认我不知道预算案第278和279页上的这一部分,它剥夺了各州制定法律或监管人工智能的权利10年。我坚决反对这一点,并且这侵犯了各州的权利。如果我知道这一点,我会投反对票。当预算案在参议院修改后返回众议院批准时,如果其中包含这一点,我将不会投票支持它。 Elon Musk: 我觉得这个大规模的、令人震惊的、充满猪肉的国会支出法案是一个令人厌恶的邪恶之物,投票支持它的人应该感到羞耻。这将大大增加已经巨大的预算赤字到2.5万亿美元,并使美国公民背负着令人难以承受的债务。应该解雇这些共和党人,摆脱这些共和党人。明年11月,我们将解雇所有背叛美国人民的政客。 Thomas Massey: 我也认为Elon Musk是对的。 MAGA Mike Johnson: 作为众议院议长,我曾经认为Elon破解了密码,能够帮助我们根除欺诈、浪费和滥用行为。我们希望通过一项决议,有效地释放支出,以便政府能够继续通过Doge和政府的其他努力来开展其令人难以置信的工作。因为我们没有Elon拥有的算法,我们无法访问所有的数据和资金。这项法案实际上冻结了资金,除了你所说的,它增加了一点国防开支。Pete Hegseth说他需要国防部一些灵活性,以及额外的60亿美元用于紧急需求。总的来说,为美国人民节省了70亿美元。 Rick Scott: 如果没有任何改变,按照目前的构成,我会投反对票。如果他们现在把它提交到参议院,它不可能获得所需的51票。 Ron Johnson: 在目前的结构下,我不能看到自己投票支持这个伟大的美好法案。我拒绝投票支持任何实际上会增加赤字,加剧当前问题的东西。 John Thune: 我希望Elon能得出不同的结论,并且再次喜欢我们。我们有一项工作要做,美国人民选举我们来做。我们有一个每个人都竞选过的议程,最值得注意的是美国总统,我们将实现这个议程。众议院通过的立法可以在参议院获得批准,并且可以在参议院以多种方式得到加强。正如我所说,它完成了我们所设定的所有目标。它使我们的军队现代化,确保我们的边境安全,延长税收减免,并使税收减免永久化,这将导致经济增长和更好的就业机会,并使美国在能源方面占据主导地位,再加上美国历史上最大的支出削减。

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The episode starts by highlighting the internal conflict within the Republican party regarding the recently passed budget bill. Key figures like Scott Perry, who initially voted for the bill, are now expressing opposition, creating a crisis for Speaker MAGA Mike Johnson.
  • Republican infighting over the budget bill
  • Key figures like Scott Perry switching stance
  • Questioning the Freedom Caucus's role in voting for the bill

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No, MAGA Mike, it's all falling apart. No, MAGA Mike, the Republican Speaker of the House is getting betrayed, not just by Elon Musk, but from others in his own party. Even MAGA Republican Congress members who voted for the disastrous budget bill, now that Elon Musk is saying he's against it, you've got these MAGA Republican Congress members saying that they're against it too, as I said.

No, MAGA Mike Johnson. Take a look at MAGA Republican Congress member Scott Perry, who voted for the disastrous budget bill now coming out against it after Elon Musk posts. I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.

MAGA Republican Congress member Scott Perry goes, so at Elon Musk is right to call out the house leadership. I wish I had a nickel for every time the freedom caucus sounded the alarm and nobody listened only to find out the hard way we were right all along. We expect massive improvements from the Senate before it gets back to the house. Dude,

You voted for this. Why wouldn't you make the improvements? You're from the Freedom Caucus. Why'd the Freedom Caucus vote for this? To give it back to the Senate to then make the cuts that you're supposed to make? What in the world is going on? You voted for this. As we said, is this you? You voted for it.

Then you have MAGA Republican Senator Rand Paul, who's always come out against this disastrous bill. He goes, I agree with Elon. We have both seen the massive wasted government spending, and we know another $5 trillion in debt is a huge mistake. Then you have Rand Paul say, some of us are trying to stop

Congress making America bankrupt in response to what Elon Musk said. Then you have MAGA Republican Senator Mike Lee who calls himself at-based Mike Lee. The dude calls himself based.

I don't really know what based fully means, but I would imagine the least base thing is calling yourself based. So in response to Elon Musk coming out against this, Mike Lee goes, federal spending has become excessive. The resulting inflation harms Americans and weaponizes government. The Senate can make this bill better. It must now do so. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

oh, MAGA Mike, it's Marjorie Taylor Greene too. No. Anyway, that's like, I saw that on TikTok where they go, no. It may get annoying, so I'll stop doing it. But anyway, MAGA Republican Congress member Marjorie Taylor Greene goes, full transparency.

I did not know about this section on pages 278 and 279 of the budget bill that strips the states of their right to make laws or regulate AI for 10 years. I am adamantly opposed to this.

and it is a violation of states' rights. And I would have voted no if I had known this was in there. We have no idea what AI will be capable of in the next 10 years, and giving it free reign and tying states' hands is potentially dangerous. This needs to be stripped out in the Senate. When the budget comes back to the House for approval after the Senate changes, I will not vote for it with this in it. Our editor-in-chief, Ron Filipkowski, goes...

Apparently, Marge, and I guess Scott Perry also, didn't read the bill before they voted on it. And just to remind you what Elon Musk was saying all day yesterday, he goes, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting

Abomination shame on those who voted for it. You know, you did wrong. You know it. It will massively increase the already gigantic budget deficit to 2.5 trillion dollars and burden American citizens with crushingly unsustainable math.

or unsustainable debt to which MAGA Republican Thomas Massey said he's right. Elon Musk is right. To which Elon Musk says, simple math, man, simple math. And then Elon Musk says, fire these Republicans, get rid of these Republicans. He goes in November next year, we fire all politicians who betrayed the American people. And it was in response to this guy, Matt Van Swal,

saying, okay, let me get this straight. Here's what the GOP is doing. And Musk is saying, fire the GOP, get rid of them. And then Elon Musk reposts this account, SMX. The truth sets a man free and Elon Musk has...

fearlessly spoken about it or fearlessly spoken about. Okay, so now let me show you Maga Mike. Should I show you Botox Maga Mike first or non Botox Maga Mike first? Let me show you about a few weeks ago. This is actually late March 2025.

Botox, MAGA Mike was on the Mike Levin show. Mike Levin talks like that on Fox. That's how, that's my impression of Mike Levin and Botox, MAGA Mike Johnson. Just look at this guy. Look at his face here. It's crazy looking.

looking. Uh, Maga Mike Johnson says, you know, uh, should I do it with the, but you know, Elon Musk has really figured this all out. His real, his algorithm has made our budget bill. Perfect. You know, he's so good. Elon watch Botox Maga Mike. He prays and glaze Elon.

only for Elon to say, F you, Maga Mike, play this clip. We wanted to pass a resolution that would effectively free spending so that the administration can continue its incredible work through Doge and through the other efforts of the administration to go in and root out the fraud, waste, and abuse that we've been trying to target in Congress for decades, but we haven't been able to get to it.

because we didn't have the algorithms that Elon has. We didn't have the access to all the data and the funding. And so now the game has changed. So we needed to hold the line in what we're doing right now so that when we get to the next fiscal year, FY26, which we will begin work on immediately now that this is done, we'll be able to incorporate all those savings and all the new transformational kinds of policies the administration is working with us to bring about. So this bill effectively does freeze funding, except that what you said,

It adds a little to defense. That's what Pete Hegseth said he needed, the Department of Defense, some flexibility and $6 billion additional dollars for the immediate needs. And it reduces non-defense discretionary spending by about $13 billion. So overall, a $7 billion savings to the American people. And Mark, we are just getting started. That was Botox Maga Mike right there. Let me show you non-Botox Maga Mike Johnson here. This is Maga Mike Johnson.

Let's play this clip right here of Maga Mike Johnson crediting Elon's magical algorithms and the Doge cuts for helping make this budget great that Elon now says he hates. Play this clip. - And the beauty of what Doge has been able to do, the reason it's so revolutionary is because Elon cracked the code.

He had access. All the stars aligned. We had a president who was bold enough to do it. We had somebody with Elon's talent and capability to come in and have his magic algorithms running through the data to find all these irregularities. And these are things that have been hidden from Congress, right? We've been trying to do our oversight responsibility, but the bureaucracy was hiding these things. And so this changes the way government works.

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Here was MAGA Mike Johnson. This is how Fox covered it today. Here was MAGA Mike Johnson when he found out that Elon Musk and all of these Republicans were turning against him. And he's like, but Elon was my friend. I consider him a good friend. So,

He's obviously an intelligent person, but I think my good friend's got it wrong. Here, play this clip. Let me say this. It's very disappointing, okay? I've come to consider Elon a good friend. He's obviously a very intelligent person, and he's done a lot of great work. With all due respect, my friend Elon is terribly wrong about the one big beautiful bill. So

So what did Elon say about it? He said, I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore. This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination. Shame on those who voted for it. You know you did wrong. You know it. Tell us how you really feel. Leaves the White House and then pulls the pin on the grenade. Yeah. Brutal. You know, it's just so odd, too. It's like

These MAGA Republicans are like, no offense to like second graders or third graders, but are you my friend? Are you my friend? I like you. I know like you. You're my friend. You're my friend. Just the behavior there is just so utterly odd. I want to show you this. Mark Caputo posted the following. Musk decision to trash Donald Trump's

budget bill came after failing to win favorable treatment in four instances, EV tax credits for Tesla, extended White House employment status, Starlink at the FAA, an ally leading NASA

got removed as one of Donald Trump's or Donald Trump's pick to lead NASA. None of it happened. So they threw Musk under the bus. Musk threw them under the bus. And now you have a mega civil war. You also just have other mega Republicans coming out saying they're not supporting this thing. Here we've got a mega Republican Rick Scott from Florida play this clip. So Senator, would you say without any changes at its current composition, would you vote no?

Oh, absolutely. I don't know. This bill doesn't have it. If they brought it to the floor right now, there's not a chance it'll get the 51 votes it needs. Here we've got MAGA Republican Ron Johnson from Wisconsin. Play the clip. Can you see yourself voting for this big, beautiful bill at all? Not in the current structure, no. I refuse to vote for something that's going to actually increase the deficits.

exacerbate the problem from the current situation. Again, we shouldn't be talking about this right now. We should have been doing all the work, like I say, the multi-step process. We'd already have the border funding. We'd have defense. We'd have $850 billion of real savings banked already. Plus we could have extended current tax law, take a tax rate increase off the table. We could have had all that done, but...

Unfortunately, decisions were made to do one big beautiful bill. It's not beautiful, I'm sorry. It's not a big beautiful bill. That's called rhetoric. - There's one thing that- - It's mislabeled. - There's one thing that- - Here we've got MAGA Republican Rand Paul saying, "My objection's not about the tax cuts. It's that this is gonna add $5 trillion to the deficit." Here, play this clip right here. - I wanna get you to address the two things we just heard from OMB Director Russ Vogt, and one made by the president.

First of all, they argue the big, beautiful bill puts in place growth measures that you're not accounting for. I've been around this game for a while. You have as well. I do know that growth is something that every administration counts on to offset their spending. But do you not think the president has a point with deregulation and tax cuts that we could see real growth that actually helps not jack up the deficit as is accounted for?

I actually do. And this is where I think the president and I are talking past each other. I accept the growth arguments. I actually accept that cutting taxes can grow revenue. I believe it happened under Reagan. I believe it happened under the first Trump term. And I supported the tax cuts in the first term. I still support them. I support making them permanent. And I do believe they will bring in more revenue than the CBO projects.

My objection to the bill isn't about the tax cuts and it isn't about those calculations. My objection to the bill is they're going to raise the debt ceiling more than they ever have, $5 trillion, and that this will be the largest increase in the debt ceiling ever. And if the Republicans all vote for it, the Republicans will own the debt. They will lose their high moral ground. We will no longer be the party that can say, look at the Democrats. We're

They're the ones, you know, foisting the debt on our country. We're drowning in a sea of debt caused by Democrats, which has largely been true. But I think now they vote for this. So if they separate out the debt ceiling, I could be for the bill. And then you have the Senate majority leader, John Thune, MAGA Republican John Thune. He's like, I hope Elon comes to power.

to a different conclusion here. I hope Elon figures this all out and he likes us again. Maybe Elon wants to be our friend again. We like Elon as friend. Here, play this clip. Are you concerned that he could help tank this bill and whip members against it? Did you listen to him or it was?

Well, my hope is that as he has an opportunity to further assess what this bill actually does, that he'll come to a different conclusion. But nevertheless, I mean, we have a job to do, the American people elected us to do. We have an agenda that everybody campaigned on, most notably the president of the United States, and we're going to deliver on that agenda.

And the legislation as passed by the House can be approved here in the Senate, can be strengthened in the Senate in a number of ways. We intend to do that. But when it's all said and done, we will send it back to the House and hope that they can pass it and put it on the President's desk. And as I said, it does everything that we set out to do. It modernizes our military, secures our border, extends tax relief and makes permanent tax relief that will lead to economic growth and better jobs in this country, and makes America energy dominant.

coupled with the biggest spending reduction in American history. Those are our agenda items and that's what we campaign on. That's what we're going to do. Such utterly weird behavior, but under the bus you go, Botox, Maga Mike and Maga Mike or whatever Mike we see. Weirdo. Anyway, hit subscribe. Let's get to 5 million subscribers. Thanks for watching.

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