#752 - 1.75M Q&A - Growing Pains, Social Anxiety & Dating Problems
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Hello, friends, welcome back to the show. My yesterday is me. I hit one point seven five million subscribers on youtube and to celebrate, as is tradition, as for questions from youtube and twitter and instagram.

So here is in another meeting minutes of me trying to answer as much as possible as always. There's some great questions in here about my thoughts on James Smith s recent video about modern podcasting, why women are so afraid of men now and how to deal with social anxiety. Expect to learn whether I think coffee ziller is right, that people should only speak on their expertise.

My ultimate goal with the podcast, how to baLance high standards with gratitude, the plans for neutronic, what my pickle ball rating is, whether i'll start changing the shows content when I have a family, and much more little bit of a different vibe today. You may notice in my sentiment and so of the way that was feeling that day, that I don't know the just not the things are getting to me, but the pressure of increase scrutiny after the rogan episode and all of these people and this sort of culture of push back against podcast and all the rest of IT. Um it's interesting.

It's more open and more honest and more vulnerable and reflective and a transparent than I usually am. And that is, uh, something that I strugling with a good bit on the show, uh, opening up this much um but yeah, I hope that IT comes across in the right way. I hope that IT gives you guys a bit of an insight into actually what's going on internally and what IT feels like to kind of be on this role coaster from, you know, absolute Normal bloke to steal a Normal bloke, but just a Normal bloke that reaches half a billion people a year, is battling with the chAllenges associated with all of that attention and stuff.

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What's happening, people welcome back to the show. IT is a one point seven five million subscriber Q N A episode, and i'm here in the first epo de from the brand new studio. This is the same room as we run before.

But IT is new camera, new lens s, new lighting, new art direction, new backdrop. You set up, knew everything. So let me know you think I really love this.

I think that is a significant improvement on what we had before. And very, very happy. Massive thanks to dean and Bennett and all the rest, the guys that helps build this out.

They did IT while shooting a turn out of the huge episodes. So moi, boo, and yeah, there maybe some technical problems over the next couple of weeks, but so far so good and broken up yet 啊。 Today i'm going to go through as many questions as I can ask the questions on twitter and on instagram and on youtube community.

Let's get into them. All right. A J five, five, seven, seven, nine.

What was your first job? why? My first job was as a room service boy at tall trees in yum, which was a hotel with a nike club attach to IT.

And I used to give the drug dealers the product delivery on the morning and have to move banks of pills out of the way so I could put that trade down. And I was sixteen, seventeen, and they used to tip me three pounds. I think my wages four pounds fifty an hour.

And they used to give me, you know, like two pounds or three pounds tip. And that for me was insane. And I did that every friday night, saturday night and sunday morning for two years while I was in college, because I was skin.

And then I wanted the money to buy stuff, like, be more independent. So yeah, that was baptism, fire into the world of work. And lisa feringi, four, nine, six, five.

Love the show. Thank you. You talked about why you move to western and things you enjoy about the U.

S. Aside from family and friends, what do you miss most about the U. K. There are some cultural artifacts that you have when you live in the place that everyone else has grown up with the same culture and upbringing that you have.

If I want to make a joke about greg, or about black ada, or about the in between us, or about prince William or something, those are all accessible to me while in the U. K. Because everybody else knows about talking about over here.

I can't do that. And if I do do that, I don't need to explain IT, which kind of makes IT pointless using IT as a reference at all. So what I do instead is I have to kind of think of, okay, what what is something that I can, that I know about america, that I can explain the people i'm talking to that is the closest version to what I mean.

And that sounds so small and silly, maybe, but IT is kind of a big deal because it's it's how you position yourself is the way markers of how you navigate and put yourself in the culture and IT just feel kindly displacing in a way um but IT is more than worth IT which is why i'm still here. Does a one five, six, eight, six, where did you get your teeth done? So these teeth are all mine, as you might be able to tell, because the bottom is are pretty fast.

But, uh, I have a composite venir on this one because I got damage playing cricket like a true british gentleman, uh, when I was fourteen. And that's got a composition, the ear on IT. So if you do want to get your teeth done, David britain, my friend in newcastle at the cosmetic dental clinic, I think he's still there.

Uh, he's a guy to go to. He's literally one of the best. He's been awarded a ton of a awards, and I have been to see in ages.

Sorry, David, I only to come for a check up, but I, you should go get your teeth on from him. Matteo tats, any comments on James Smith recent video about the state of modern podcasts? Yes, this caused quite a stir.

So the people who didn't see IT James smith, who is my business partner in new tonic, released the video criticizing um controversy farming and inaccurate guest information that happens on podcasts. And this main point was about bringing guests to don't agree with each other. And then after you run out of guests, just trying to piece people off as a way to generate plays and views and stuff, I am glad that that wasn't directed at me.

And the I think he uses the show, at least in pot, is a good example of someone who isn't doing that. I regularly text him and say, is such as such a person above ate artist. And if he says yes, I often don't bring that person on.

Our done thing i've ever brought on someone that James is said isn't legit in the world of health and fitness, which is useful. So I have James on speed, that something I can do. Whenever that being said, people being drip fed bullshit, it's not good IT IT is not going to make the world of information sense making any easier.

And if you are trying to optimize for place aggressively, yes, that can lead to some pretty squarely outcomes. And i've said IT before, russia brands podcast, like russia brands channel is the patient zero olympic hy jack like IT isn't matter. I've enjoyed me some rustle brand videos too, but no one can look at the way that those videos are framed or the intros and say that that's a delicate, gentle, baLanced way to put this information across.

And then coffee e ziller responded and he released video. I got a little feature in that his issue was, uh, content creators getting out of the skids and talking about things that they don't have expertise in. I ve mentioned this for at least three years that just because you're expert in fucking astros physics doesn't mean that I should listen to you about viro logy or about the middle st or about what we should do in the ukraine.

Yes, people should understand the boundaries of their competence. But that being said, if you're only ever going to speak about something that you are formally qualified, and I think you brought the fact eric windsor is mathematical and someone that was a tail capital, and you just physics or something, what is he doing talking about what modern women are into that kind of means that everyone is only ever allowed to talk about their expertise. And coffee zellers got a chemical engineering degree and is then gone on to do investigative journalism.

Is degree wasn't in criminology or statistics or in journalism or in writing or in video creation or in media or any of those things, wasn't encrypt or coding. And he's managed to make a career out of doing something that he worked at quite hard. And i've enjoyed some of his videos.

I think he's wrong. I think he's wrong about saying this person is only qualified at this one thing. Therefore, that's all that they can talk about.

The example was eric widdin talking about, uh, what modern women want. But the problem with that clip is that it's me talking about what modern women want. It's eric asking me the question, but the video stops after ten seconds and you don't see that.

It's erik statement to me that I respond to as opposed to me asking eric about his expert opinion. Another criticism the podcast getting at the moment is that it's more of a business than IT is about communicating accurate information and all of this other stuff. And I got to be honest, like there is this sense at the moment, at least to me, that this like ambient scepticism. And again, I haven't been the subject of direct criticism or take down's. None of these videos, one of these like really like embarrassingly funny, scary, compelling to watch videos that are often done about podcasts that are critical.

None of them has been done about me yet, but it's not like the felt sense of me as some bloke that has just done this thing for six years and now is in maybe the cross hair or the blast radius of other huge big shows and people that have been on TV in all this other stuff like it's it's pretty disconcerting like try be honest as onest I can like I I find myself now on podcast neutering and nursing some of the things that I say, or at the very least getting nervous about talking and and saying things because i'm scared that some guy, some fucked in super funny faceless guy with a youtube channel somewhere is going to bring up a clip. And then that's going to be the beginning of everybody taking a pair or doing whatever. I mean, like guy who just what if he wants the world to like him, is scared of the world not liking him, like fucking in shock, horror, or do that was a bit unpopular in school, is scared about being an outcast or whatever.

Like, perhaps unsurprising, I need to go a therapy more evidently. But it's it's like it's it's pretty uncomfortable in in some ways like I am precisely the same in terms of my capacity to deal with criticism as you. I am some Normal block that just did a podcasting and now I haven't had an immediate training.

There was at no point along this journey from six years ago doing a podcast on my couch with a couple of friends that nobody listen to for three and a half years, to now having two million, eighty two million subs. And, you know, all of these eyes and being in this, the realm of lots of other people, and some of them have got good intentions to some we've got address, some we've got dodgy histories. And you can't check all the time.

I it's it's scary. It's it's scary and it's disconcerting. And I don't like that side of the culture. I don't like the fact that there is this ambient vigiLance and scepticism and cynicism and you see in comment sections and IT seems, I don't know, to try give you as a listener of podcasts a piece of advice.

If you want the podcasts that you listen to, to keep going the way that they do, you need to learn to stand up for them if you think that they're in the right. Because a lot of the time I see these criticisms go out and because people love to call out someone that maybe they ve got a little bit agreement with or whatever, that's fine. The people that you ve got a problem with any show more than welcome to words, their criticisms publicly, but if the people who support the show don't stand up and back that creature up, I can see, I can begin to see myself the increase of how creators say, fuck them.

I don't give a shit. They're just a bunch of poles or they're just a bunch of idiots or and completely blow off all audience feedback. I'm not at that stage, which is great. Like I like being able to take on board constructive ideas about where I might have holes in.

My game or in the way that we're picking up guests or in the way that are communicating stuff are in the kay or all of that stuff like i'm really I love the fact that there is this unreasonably reasonable group of people that watched the show, but it's getting harder and harder because criticism grows more quickly than praised as and because you remember the insults, but not the compliments. Any increasing platform size doesn't feel I can increase in support IT just feels I can increase in hate. And this very particular anti podcast sentiment is going on at the moment.

From a felt sense like it's of it's kind of uncomfortable and IT sucks and IT makes me vigilant and kind of a bit scared to sometimes open up fully on show because my oh my god like what what's this can be said like um poor podcasting complaints about things being hard or guy thinks that he's full of himself because he talks about this most recent holiday like and maybe the argument is what what you doing listening to people on the internet or you shouldn't read the comment so you shouldn't care or whatever is, but by hooker, by crook, like I do care and and I don't want to compromise the things that I do. I don't want to get into the rythm of hating or or having this taste for the audience or discounting stuff. But I can see how that trend comes across that people have, just for so long seen criticism on the internet that they go, all right, fuck you.

I'm out. I'm not listening to anymore. This is now an adversarial relationship, and I really don't want this to happen. So i'm trying to work hard at ignoring or taking in as good faith as possible, stuff that is like hardcore criticisms.

And then i'm also are actively trying to be like, literally should just do this as well as I can and to bring on a baLance of people. There was also a couple of other criticisms that I had that kind of come off the back of James. I brought eric wine's time back on a again for the second time in seven months, I think, and had a great conversation with him last three hours.

News, a bunch of people that said something like, oh, looks like the binning of the downs. All of podcasting is here like scraping the bottom of the barrel again. Coffee zilla or James must be right, unlike bro.

Go fuck yourself. I bring on more unknown creators or academics or intellectuals than probably any other podcast at this level. I think last year, we had at least twenty percent of the podcasts, a twenty percent of modern, modern episode.

Well, with people who have never done a podcast before. So to say, oh, it's just the same circle of people at the same cycle of people going through. I don't think that that's true.

I don't think that that's effective ism. I don't think that that's the way that I try and chase plays. I would be interested to know if there is another podcast at this level who brings on as many unknown people as I do.

I don't think that there is and i'm trying to work hard to find interesting new different people. But anyway, that's my, that's my rent. And usually I blast through these Q N S, uh, really quickly. But this is something that on my mind, quite a lot.

And maybe I just need to stop watching these fucking in channels online that they like keeping a breath is like the weather report for podcasting um but yeah like my advice would be and this isn't just for me. This is for anyone like any channel that you like, if you like your channel support IT uh because it's fuck in rough and no one teaches you how to deal with criticism. There's no training course, media training course for, oh, this is what happens when you yet to decide.

No one bestows I need the ability to not deal with violence and criticism, and like harsh, cutting comments from faceless and nameless people on the internet. So that's my two pants. Ryan panny, seven or eighteen.

Congrats on all your well deserved success. press. Thank you.

You've mentioned enough times where I got to ask, what is your pickle ball rating? Any plans for tournament play? I don't know how you get your pick ball writing.

Is this on woop? Can I get this on woop or something? Um I play at the park there and I play a couple of friend's courts and I usually lose, so probably very low.

But tell me how I get IT in manual. Do do cheek wk, seven, seven, two, six. congratulations.

Thank you. This is the result of the work that you've put in, not the result of luck. Thank you again.

How do I manage the dichotomy between being grateful for how far i've come and wanting to become more that I called me, between working for my future and being present in the moment? I feel like there's always a talk of war between the two sides. Do this is the question.

I mean, fuck, if I know I this, this is the chAllenge that I have every single day. I want to maximize what I can. I want to be the best that I can be.

I want to do things well, and I don't want to leave stuff on the table, but I don't want to be chasing the angle so much that I never actually enjoy the process of getting there because ultimately, that's really all that matters. You're going to look back at any destination. Realized that there was nineteen nine point nine percent journey.

I only, you know, one day of celebrating achieving the thing so I don't know. Uh what I can tell you is that this is you are not alone in this chAllenge IT was probably the most common question that we got the live show that I did and um the few things that I know that you can do. One of the most practical ways to do IT is to put posted notes around the house.

And when you see the posted notes right on IT, whatever you want, just take thirty seconds to find a way to be thankful and grateful for something that happening right now, even if it's the functioning of your body or the fact that he used to have an injury and now you're paying free or it's good weather today or you just had a great conversation with a friend or you're going to go out for dinner later on or you just really had this successor. You you really nailed that phone call, whatever, however big or small IT is, if you can string together a couple of moments like that of genuine mind rests where feet aren't thing that seems to work for me but it's rough that that I I need to work out what the solution is. And as of yet, I, I, I haven't access one, three, nine, three.

I've been improving and pushing myself to do Better. But sometimes my greater determination feels like it's out of Spike to people who put me down or anger at myself and not good enough. Once a positive place, you draw strength from when life is difficult.

And mental psychological sense, we all know you can tank physical stress. Oh, wow, okay. The reason i'm ughs, I am not laughing in the fact that you've got feeling that you're not good enough. It's that these quite audience of people that are me that I it's of my pathologies uh so i'm at least I um people like me a gravitating this show.

I'm accumulating an audience of people who have the same problems that I do uh which is maybe why all of the the podcasts h this taste or whatever, everyone's busy trying to not spite the people that put them down previously, not busy enough to be able to watch podcast take downs on the internet. What's a positive place that I draw string from my life is difficult as opposed to the anger and Spike that you're not good enough luck. This is a very just give the same answer again, a very difficult Allene that the reason is a difficult chAllenge is that I am still dealing with this myself.

I don't have the chip of my shoulder anymore. I got past that by, to be honest, just achieving so much more than I thought that I was going to that I already knew that i'd sort of blown past like the chip of my shoulder was IT wasn't enough fuel IT was like useless fuel had been spent. Angry yourself that you're not good enough is something that i'm very familiar with.

If I hit snooze on the morning, if I break my diet, if I don't train, even tiny, tiny little things like doing a workout in the gym and this final rep and putting out of the final rap, it's not that I didn't just finish a final rap that some sort I take that a lot of the time as a comment on me and myself. Worth is a person, so if this is you, we are the same brother. Um also I am in therapy at the moment and you may have noticed this on the show that is fucking creeping in everywhere and I can't stop seeing patterns in myself and it's made me a lot more introspective and kind of less confident in a way because i'm all of the stuff that you hide you can no longer hide because he keeps rising to the surface.

Which may also be one of the reasons why i'm not feeling as ah so aggressive in my response to people that are critical online obviously as well. I just did rogan so thank you to ever run to watch the episode, but that if you don't want a turn of attention going on, the biggest podcast in the world is probably a bad idea. And I love that episode, and I loved all of the conversations and stuff like that.

But even in that, as i'm saying a sentence and I realized that I meant to say that particular word and I didn't I misspoke or I meant to tell a story in this way and I didn't and I forgot something, i'll castigate myself during the moment that i'm not good enough. And that is exactly what you've just quoted. A positive place in dramatic strength from when life is difficult has to be.

I just want to be Better and i'm trying my best. That's all that there is. Getting read by psychological strain, by you being your on tormentor, is not worth IT.

And I have tried, I have tried, and all of a lot. You want to be Better. That is something to be proud of.

You want to leave IT all on the field of play. You want to make yourself as good as you can. You want to make the world Better place.

You want to have an impact. All of these things are just that, all positives. Fuck, I don't I dude, i'm this is me. I am completely battling with the same thing myself.

So the best thing I can say is remember that the affliction that you have is one that you should be very thankful for, even though you don't feel that at the time. Mister paul three d congrats. love.

Neutronic, by the way, thank you. Especially the lack of high carbonation. What your plans for that brand will you leave? IT at a drink?

Future flavors, looking forward, future guests, this podcasts. Ers, to change my life. Brother, thank you very much. Um right now we just need to have some stock um because amErica didn't have stock IT maybe restock today.

When this episode goes out, I hope that this is and we have finally got new production factory, new production uh supply which is great um organizing the supply chain for something like this when it's very, very high levels of we methods ted cobol m is the method cobalt in b twelve which more absorb able with radios and panics jining radios as and endangered species. We've got natural cafe and we have to source this IT takes ages, so we need to sort out supply chain that should be done right now. I just want to get the drink in people's hands because we haven't had IT in amErica for three months.

Once you've got that, will look on to other things. But yes, for now, that's thank you for not asking a question about some weird mental pathology i've got as well. Lily is eight to thirteen.

Great podcast. How is your exponential success impacting your personal and relationship? Fuck sake, i'm okay. I am very much enjoying talking to more people that are that like the things I like, one of the coolest things about doing a podcast where I talk to people are genuinely interested in because i'm following my instincts, which also means i'm going to make mistakes.

But IT means I creating audience of people like me at the live shows that we did across the U. K. And ireland, in dubai, in the united states, in canada, all of the people that came up, I would happily go for a coffee with, because they were all like me, because they're been selected for me.

That is cool. X pendentives success from the personal live side is what I said before. It's this you're just being i'm being watched by half a billion people a year and it's fucking terrifying and I don't know what to do and I don't know how to deal with IT.

And there's only a very small number of people who can even understand this. And if you try to talk about IT on the internet like i'm doing right now, IT sounds like a champagne problem. Oh, poor youtube, a boy who is dealing with this.

Do you not know that people are starving? Do you not know that people are dealing with poverty? And all the rest mates I get, I do.

And yet I still am concerned about this sort of ambient vigiLance thing. It's a max back. I'm really, really happy with the show.

I love the conversation. I'm having this new quality of production that we're doing in all of the things that is opened up is awesome. But personally, it's a high Price like IT is a high Price that I pay.

And that's my fault and it's my mental pathology to deal with and it's my set of chAllenges to overcome. And hopefully when I do that, I will have a shit turn of really good insights and all of the questions that you guys are asking, which are the same ones that i'm dealing with. Maybe i'm just a couple of steps ahead.

Maybe I have much. So i'm seeing IT as an opportunity to prove to myself and also to kind of go out scouting for solutions to some of the biggest problems that, that I think a lot of us are dealing with, and they're very Normal problems. This isn't how to deal with the death of a loved one.

This isn't, you know, huge, huge things. It's everyday chAllenges about how do I maximize my potential and not leave things on the table? How do I baLance my desire to be Better with my bitterness from being criticized in the past?

How do I deal with success without letting IT get to my head, or without letting you make me become too anxious? All of these things are one step at a time. IT is an interesting journey at the moment.

Not far as i'll go. George mac, let's fucking go. Thank you, brother. Uh, what are the biggest middle, middle moments over the last five years? Probably the biggest one would be something like.

On the left, the guy, the left would say, I just, I just follow my instinct. The guy in middle says, I will reverse engineer all of my supose and daily values into a optimized matrix to make my decision frame through. And the gun, the right would say, I just follow my instinct, like ultimately following your instincts, the best route.

And IT cuts out so much psychological pain from having to go through the guy in middle of the ddd. If you had to summarize the last twelve months into a sentence, what would you be? Rapid change is good and bad.

come. What's one area in your life you're looking to improve upon the most this year? And what is happening with this question? I mean, that great and stuff, but they really did, and they all about me anyway.

What's one area in your life you are looking to improve upon the most this year, fearing less? I think this whole a vigiLance ambient anxiety thing. Um it's not going to get less. The shows is going to keep growing and I need to deal with the uh so that would be that be one uh another one uh I mentioned the under therapy, which is fascinating and really, really rough like really, really hard to be honest um dealing with that more learning to kind of connect with my emotions would be something that's great as opposed to this performative auto and thing which I have managed to create a some defense mechanism that would be great. Uh, i'm back in training consistently, which is awesome and I feel great getting a turn muscle and that's great.

So I guess those three areas deal the by products of the show growing, uh, fuel feelings, uh, I continue get massive tribe all there is marisa Allen, if you could send one message out into the great expensive space. And if there is life in anywhere in IT, they will receive IT. What do you send? IT can be anything in any format.

I'd ask them, what's your morning routine? Doggy house ninety three. What is up with all of the ads? Lots of question Marks. Yep, that's another one. So look, these big shoots that we do.

I've spent thirty five thousand dollars in a single day on them for some of these shoots and for the multi day shoots is more. And I need to fly in over from the U. K.

And we need to have this huge amount of insurance for all of the kid. We need to rent the kid. We need to rent the space.

We need to build a team and we it's expensive. The only way that I can do these big shots are by selling ad spots. I care and believe in the advertisers that I use, and if you don't like them, it's quite easy to skip forward.

This is one of the things where i'm like, hey, go fully fuck yourself because IT takes so much effort behind the scenes to do IT to get this stuff to happen. So many like like weeks and weeks of preparation. And then we all fly.

We sit on fucked in planes. Dean sits on a plane for like eighteen hours to get over to vegas or L A. Or whatever. And then we spend a full day prepping. And then we go into the record.

And i've to all of my research, and we sit down with the guest and this this huge other on the back and all of this to create content that you get to watch for fucking free. And then the internet has a problem with three minutes of podcast on IT, like the entitlement that people have. Do you know how much IT costs to run a podcast? It's insane.

So what is up with all of the ads digna stay? I want to continue making the most beautiful podcasts on the planet that costs money. I can't bangle IT myself. I have to use advertisers, the only ones that I use, the ones that I work. We turn down a huge deal, a life changing amount of money deal.

We just turned IT down a couple of weeks ago from a very well known advertiser because I don't agree with them and because I don't think that they are a valid product. The amount of sacrifices that we make behind the scene in, the amount of revenue we leave on the table, because of not wanting to play the olympic hydra game, because of not wanting to like use the day are coming for your kids. You won't believe what they're doing next, that on the titles and the thuma ing all of that stuff.

So the add, the staying and if you don't like IT, go fuck yourself. Michael corner, if you want to here the science is for the rest of time. It's all you having your library to say is must feel responsible.

What are they? It's time you weigh in home. Me, okay, mike. So i've asked this question. Of the ten guests may be including Chris banstead, a greatest olympic physic champion of all time, and fill health, one of the greatest olympic champions of all time.

Phila ten exercises, okay, so are incline chest press because it's the best chest exercise on the planet. Uh, polypes because overhand polypes shall depress with natural, because I think that shoulders get, no, we don't need show depress, just lateral raises, incline press, polypes natural raises leg press because of a bad back. Fuck, this is hard.

I've done this to some many people, and I been looking at them like why you taken all this time? Standing super bisset calls overhead drive up extension. Quote extension hamstringing coal.

What do I mean? I missing back, missing a single ARM role. Are we missing? Are we missing? Not the chest exercise.

Not the chest exercise. Cable flies. I think this probably explains why I have the physic that I do that that's the best I can do.

Christian von offa, what's an example of a counterintuitive life lesson that improve your life 啊？ The more that you pay attention, the Better things get, but the more that you able to let go, the more enjoyable they are. Ah I guess that's more like a contradictory life lesson than country and duty one.

But that what you getting that paying attention has been the single greatest competitive advantage that i've had because I pay attention to things I I tried to be precise and I can I genuine e which is also a fucker problem. Uh, but also, the more that you're able to let go and not fear about stuff, the more enjoyable you'll find IT. So the thing that is making you Better is the thing which is making you feel pain.

And this is a perennial baLance. Don Taylor, if your eighty old self look back at your life now, what will he say? You're doing too much of and too little of too much time on screens, too much time on email and admin and busy work, and too little time just having fun and walking in nature and and chilling out with my friends and shooting bows are playing pickle ball or traveling.

I work and offer a lot because I obsessed and I like doing the show and is is fun to me. But it's very hard because it's so rewarding. It's very hard to work out.

Is this the absolute best thing that I could be doing at all times? Am I doing IT too much? Could be doing a little bit lesson, still get most of the games from IT? I don't know, but I think eighty old self looking back at me now, i'm not doing bad, really, really not doing bad.

I got the top five death bed regrets of the dying writing White board next to the the desk where I work. And I look at that pretty regularly. I'm trying my best to front.

Love that. A, S, G. What's the biggest podcasting lesson you've learned since your first episode? Podcasting lesson? Lesson about podcasting or lesson from podcasting, let's say, lesson about podcasting.

silence. Silence is the best broadcasters have things to say. And the absolute a lead to podcasting is no one to shut up if you're able to sit with silence, just allow that to breathe a little bit.

Not even comedians do this. Comedians do IT in a different way. They're doing IT to think or to that think, we use something. They're doing IT for comedic timing as opposed to because they're grappling with some like super complex idea, but just allowing the room to breathe.

The the of wonder this with sean strickland, right, shown crying is struggling with this sort of traumatic memory thing, and he'll just let this silence set black asks, eat on mosque when you're gonna get to mars, it's to thirty something. Second break also. awesome.

radical. The best podcasting lesson is shut up actually. Mota sic, are you cognition of the risk of becoming a mean of yourself? Yes, I am heavily, heavily aware of the risk of becoming a mean of myself. And I try very hard to not lean into the same sorts of conversations all the time is one of the advantages of having such a broad selection of guests to choose from that it's not always bro philosophy with alex homos y or gym rat stuff with my giz retail or social psychology insights with drop henderson or evolutionary psychology with William costello.

You know, we've always got this broad range of things, but ultimately, you are you, and unless you continue to change you, you will have patterns and say things in certain way, the way I say yes, which Michael mAlice told the entire internet about years and years. That kind of a funny thing. So that the fact that i've got this particularly prominent brow that's not going anywhere like this sort of going on shelf thing that I have here, that this light really strikes perfectly.

Let me see if I can see, see that yeah, someone actually said that mike is retail on the episode looked like two different alien head races meeting each other, like two different species of aliens with different shaped heads meeting each other like I was predator and he was alien. Really quite accurate and funny, which is why I couldn't get mad. But yeah, i'm cog isn't becoming a mean of myself and I really, really, really don't want that to happen because I want to keep doing this thing and because I don't like the idea of a joke being made at my expense that when i'm trying my best because that sucks so hopefully does not have IT.

Greg, what is your goal? Such mismatch with this podcast? I just want to keep talking to people i'm interested.

I just want to bring on people that i'm interested in and just find out what they've got to, to teach me. I wants to understand myself and the world around me. And that being the goal for six years now.

And that will continue to be the goal. And I am not going to change that. I have no obligation at all to anybody except for my own instincts.

And that's IT my own curiosity. And as long as I follow that, I think that that's the way to go. So goal emission is keep on learning about myself. In the world around me.

People can come along for the right calm milkin alex says you don't become confident by shouting affirmations in the mirror, but by having a stack of under able proof that you are who you say you are, how do you get the evidence for yourself? And do you think that the evidence is unlimited and you will never have enough? How did I get the evidence? So I got the evidence quite largely through doing the show, because for a long time i'd done pursuits where I could always excuse any suc successful outcome as IT being due to something else that wasn't me.

So my impossible in them. So great, even if we had a good event, one of the club nights, oh, that would be because, you know, everyone else in tamas and busy, or you know, we really fluked IT, or that's because of one of the boys or that's because the market conditions. So that's because of the way that we Priced, not because of me, wasn't because of mine input.

And then I started to do the podcast, which was much more of a one to one input to outcome ratio, the same as being a power left, right, like you work hard and the numbers go up. And if the numbers go up and you pick up the bar, you know, it's exclusively because of you and what you did. That's very difficult to hide lots of other pursuits, especially things that are part of a team or stuff, whether just isn't as tight to a feedback loop between what you put in and what you get out.

That is very, very easy to kid yourself into thinking that you aren't doing as well or that your successes aren't yours to own theyll be the best way to say. Do you think that the evidence is unlimited? You will never have enough.

I think you can always have more evidence. But i've managed to get myself to the stage where i'm confident in my abilities, uh, and that I I just didn't have confidence in myself. I had I was able to pretend like I had confident.

I had the simulation of confidence. Now if you put me on stage in front of five hundred people and say that I need to speak for an hour, i'll do IT. I'll be a little bit novo before, but as soon as I get moving, i'll do IT.

That was something I couldn't even do six months ago like wow, like a concentrated so the solution to that is to seventeen shows in twenty eight days across three continents. That's that's a solution. It's crushing amounts of volume, crushing amount of evidence.

And after while it's it's essentially impossible for that lack of confidence to stick about. So I promise you, if you just keep going, keep on building that mountain in lays of paint, it'll be fine. Martin, how do you deal with having to spend a seemingly inordinate amount of time in front of a screen? For me, I can lead to isolation and a scoot skd perception on reality.

Do you ever think you're missing out on other things by choosing the path you have? ablated. Md, I think all of us are spending too much time screens. I don't know anybody, even my mom, even my mom and dad, don't have a good relationship with screens.

So with difficulty, I suppose, a few things that i've ve done practically again, because I can just give you all of these that fluffy attitudes and tried little quotes and stuff. But really, practically, what can you do? I live in a park.

Living in a park is a good idea, I think, but you're right next to nature. And the friction between you being in front of a screen and you being in the middle nature is really small. So if you can live in in a park that seems to work for me, uh, I can lead to isolation in a skill perception of reality one hundred percent IT.

Can I think that that's what a lot of the uh communities of people that have bound together over mutual hatred out groups are doing because that is reality to the reality is what they see on the internet is not what's happening out there. It's what's happening in the group chat or in the comment thread or whatever. Uh, do I ever think i'm missing out on other things by choosing the path you have? Yes, but by choosing other things, I would be missing out on this thing.

So it's a case of picking what things he prepared to is out on right now. I want to do the podcast. I want to learn from people, I want to talk to them.

I want to find out stuff and have cool conversations. That means that i'm not going to get to travel and go on holidays much as I want to learn about other cultures. That means that I don't get to spend IT as much time with my friends as i'd like.

That means that I don't get to go up party if I wanted to do that because I need to stick to a routine in a schedule so that my brain doesn't fall apart. Anything that you do will come with an an opportunity cost of the things that you're not doing, pick the things that you are prepared to not do. And then if they align with the thing that you want to do, your path is not clear.

Chris Peterson, did love island help you with your confidence on camera, or did you have to get more comfortable as you did more podcasts? Hard to believe you would have seen nervous when talking to very imposing figures on topics you want an expert in. Well, apparently that's the whole problem.

Yes, I wasn't added really at all by love island of is so interesting if you ever go through multiple versions of you in life and then people in the future find out about things you did in the past each time at a revelation. But to you, it's like i'd even forgotten that i'd done that. Love island was now eight years ago.

I think for me, maybe more. And then IT gets free service. I did. You know that Chris was in love, and oh my god, you know, this guy was in love on. So, yeah, I of course I did.

Of course I, because I was there, did I get more comfortable as I did more podcasts? Yes, absolutely. Like doing podcasting and especially doing youtube, doing this, staring into that thing.

And anyone ever tried to do a video, birthday video for a friend? Well, you're just looking at this black lens, and you have no idea what to say and it's just like a whole staring at you. And there's no one coming to save you.

No one's going to come and help you. No one is going to save the words for you. And if you mess up over and over again, you gona feel like you can't speak and you're completely useless.

And your brain, your brain, that this is the best battis M A fire for learning how to communicate that you can have, because no one is going to come and save you. No one is drag you out when you get things wrong, when you get stuck, when you don't have anything to say. This is why I said IT on the first episode of rogan, sit down thirty minutes once a week and have a fake podcast with a friend.

Put your phone on, record all of the phones out of the room, put IT in the middle table, and just talk to each other about an idea, and you will be able to listen back to the way that you communicate and realized, oh my god, I didn't even know that I had that verbal take. And after, I promise you after, if you did that for six months, your communication would be so insanely different. obvious.

See, the extreme version of this is actually then published on the internet, make into a podcast. But that can be a big deal for people sitting down for half an hour. That's not ah I do feel nervous, especially before sitting down with rogan.

I had to train really, really hard. Is the solution train hard as well and then you can't really feel feelings anymore and then the nerves are just you've got dam and you've got nerves and that the nerves die because the domes take over. So that was my solution there, captain race, will the podcast grow in the same direction as your life?

If we see you having kids, will you do more dead centric content one hundred percent? I am very much looking forward to learning about. Bring up kids and a family life, and I could become a rapper in five years time. And again, this is the whole follow your instinct thing.

Who knows? I might get real deep into A I or into eighty jazz or something. And guess what, there's onna be a ton of episodes about eighty jasen ai.

And for the people that that's fall that's great. And if not, that's that's not. But yes, I think. There's no way that i'm not going to be changed by something like becoming a dad, getting married, having a family, uh, dealing with the passing of friends and and and family members and all that stuff.

And the show is an outgrowth of me, you know, for Better of the worse, it's it's me and why i'm not in life. It's not I don't know what's going on in coffee ell's life. I don't know if he's got kids.

I think he's married, but I don't know what's happening like he's content to always about that out there, but it's not really about his instinct of what's going on with him related to his content. For me, that's not the same. Um I keep my private life pretty private, but i'm also following whatever interest i've got.

So yes, that centric content ageing Gracefully as a man, dealing with the drops in tests on dealing with losing family members and people, growing older and getting a dog or whatever. IT, is this going to happen? All of that in the post. Lewis drawed, why are nine to five ves looked down on within the self improvement space on how to get past IT if your purpose is aligned within a nine to five career?

I have noticed I I don't think i've ever personally actually been disparate ging if someone that has a nine to five because I have been someone that had a ninety five, or be IT, not for long, I did IT for six months, but every single person that I knew growing up at the eight, five or bigger, and my dad said he did. And then coming from a working class, a super working class background, i've. I've always felt a little but uncomfortable with the way that ninety five are disparate.

Ged, I don't think that the only way that you can enjoy your life is if you pivot and do something yourself. I think it's a very reliable route to do IT, and I encourage many people to do IT as possible. But I I try not to look down on people that are doing that because it's the lions share of most people how to get past that if your purposes aligned within the ninety five career fucking IT doesn't matter.

Like i've made huge, huge, huge developments while I was staying up until four in the morning, five in the morning, running a nightlife business. You can make huge in your personal growth journey while you're doing in ninety five. And if your purpose is aligned within a ninety five career, IT doesn't matter like that's your thing, just leaning into IT, enjoy that.

And all of the guys that don't know when they are supposed to stop or when they are supposed to stop, but they got to be the task method don't supposed to do today and holidays. Don't all of that you'd have to worry about any of them. There are tons of advantages of having a nine to five.

And if you're enjoying IT your purposes aligned with IT, nail the self development on an evening time, make sure that you lock into a hard routine and you are going to you're going have a great time. So i'm a genuine genuine januarie envious of people that have great ninety fives. Whether purposes are going to a especially if they've got a lot of um oversight and structure because IT takes all of the pain.

I did a video ages ago, um you might be even be able to find that I can what is called seems like a ten reasons to not start your own business or something like that. And I was about precisely this that it's not all it's cracked up to be to work for yourself. So the disparate ging in nine, five, i'm not unbothered that mr.

meldrew. Six, nine, three, who do you think would win in a fight? Eight, mildly irritated skirls or a drowsy beaver.

Please provide working with. Eight mildly irritated schools or are a drowsy beef that beef is fucked, dude. Eight for this is one that would be, i'd be interested to see that.

But even a, even a Normal squirl let a mildly irritated would, I think, would be, uh, a handful the very least that bee is react. So skirls struggle to coordinate, but they just rushed to bever, uh, running around IT on all sides, little scratching bite and squares things and that driving beaves. He's react unless someone comes in and gives him A A lucas or new tonic.

If he had a newton's actually, if we may be the tonic, he would be fine, but unfortunately not happening. Jl j twenty eight, how to be free from of his opinions? Ah I don't know.

Here's the guy that worried about the entire internet, uh, being critical of the industry. eason. I don't know I I don't know what that solution see.

He's the problem with doing therapy that he keeps on coming up whenever trying to have a conversation, whenever you trying to hide whatever your concerns are. Um some of the ways that i've been able to find to do that are that most people don't like themselves. So caring about someone else's opinion of you is kind of pointless.

Like you wouldn't respect someone's insights on strength if they didn't know strength, then once strong, if these people don't like themselves and don't know you, their opinion, if you means absolutely daily squad. Also, most of the people who have critical opinions of you probably have critical opinions of almost everything. And it's not really about you to probably about them or it's about the way that they see the world.

So other s opinions that are negative a lot of the time are actually just projections of what they hate about themselves or their, the way that they see the world at large. And the literally isn't about you. So both of those things, I I really try IT hard to remind myself that are it's probably not about you.

Other people's opinions of you are more about them than they are about you. Techy eight o three, six. Explaining your back issues.

Did visiting doctor student, my girl fix IT? What about your stem cell treat in south america? Please show your back fixing story in the current state.

E, D, be your back health. cheers. Okay, so quick recap back the Chris Wilson backards.

Sy, I had a bunch of bulging disks when I started doing cross fit because it's cross IT and because I was excited and because I was lifting heavy and I never lifted that heavy before, moderately perform at a very high intensity. Um l three, l four and five, us, one, two budding desks. M I S not good try to work on.

IT kept on having those sort of spasm. Y bag attacks that anyone who's got a bulging discs or honea disco will be familiar with went to go on visit steam. A gill still did a full assessment on me.

I flew to canada and then drove to grave and host on my own for the first time, driving on the other side of the road five, four, five years ago. Now, yes, he made a huge impact. I did hundreds of hours, maybe maybe thousands of hours of his big three, uh, which you can google online quite easily if you have a back problem.

I highly recommend doing the big three every single day, first thing in the morning, when you wake up, if you got really bad back to twice, once in the morning, in the, once in the mid afternoon. And i've done that hundreds of hours. I've done IT on a paddleboard in like Norman.

I've done IT in dubai. I've done IT in my house in newcastle. I've done IT in jims all over the U.

K. I've done in Austin. Uh, and yes, it's made a big difference. Stem cell treatment in south amErica that I did last year went to buy accelerator and I got two hundred, two hundred millions stem cells of the space of the week, including introd, sco and every lama faster joins the literally into the disk of my spine. I was asleep.

Um that was interesting because IT forces you to have a big deal aded for and about three months. It's really hard for me to work out how much if this was stem cell and how much if this was delos because i'd never taken a three month delos of anything. And I like skinny and fat and slow, awful.

But my back didn't hurt and my knees didn't hurt. My knees had been hurting before as well. I highly recommend a combination of heavy, the load and steam.

Eos big three current state of my back is I haven't had a back spasm attack in nearly two years now, which is very good. That movie boy know to me because I was pretty consistent, you know, every couple of months to every six months or so. Um that being said, i'm working around IT.

I don't dead left. I don't squat. I don't do anything that involved. I don't do good mornings. I don't do bent over rows.

I don't do anything that causes is that Sherry what's refer to a sharing force going through my spine bending over um so I work around IT. I do a lot of lunches, heavy um uh suitcase Carried lunges. I do a lot of box step ups.

I do a lot of like press, i've worked around this, i've adapted my training so that my back isn't uh injured. But if you are someone that has a back problem by back mechanic, but by a doctor, steam gill is very accessible, very practical. Do the big three once or twice a day, take a delos from whatever you're doing, and learn to do proper back.

Hygiene is called spinal, which involves keeping a very neutral, good spine. I was a James always makes jokes about me that, uh, I stand up pretty straight like this. I've got such a good posture, but I don't think I did have a good posture until about five years ago, and then I just hurt my back so much that I became hypersensitive and hyper aware of my post.

And now I do stand up straight. A shame that I didn't do that ten years ago. Anyway, Parkers, six, nine, six.

What have you done in your life that you are the most proud of? Conversely, what have you done the most ashamed or disappointed SHE is um what have you done that in the most proud of moving to america? I think i'm very proud of that. I was super hard to do administrative vely its a nightmare IT takes ages. We submitted this three and seven hundred page portfolio.

And then the first day that I arrived in Austin, I was waiting to get picked up by the uber outside of this block of flats that I lived in, and I was just so thankful, looked up at the sky, and IT was something that I D made, right? I'd moved my life from this place where I was, where I was. Things were good, but not great, to a place that was excited about.

And I felt like I was expLoring and adventuring and being opinion. And he was all because of me. No one else done IT.

No one else had made IT happen. No one else IT was all me. And that that made me feel very proud. Uh, what have I done and the most ashamed of, disappointed about I was a bit of a dick to, uh, girlfriend when I was Younger like I I wasn't super faithful and I lied and did stuff like like that. And I really hated division in myself.

You I was an outgrowth of the clip promotion industry, but I was on me that I wasn't the boyfriend that I should have been. And I don't like hurting anybody, especially not people that have done nothing wrong, and that's a person that I do not be. So that's something I don't know whether there is the thing that i'm the most ashamed or disappointed about myself for, but it's certainly that I I, I keep in the back my mind like don't treat people that haven't done anything wrong badly and I am doing really well.

There was a big change that probably one of the bigger changes that i've done, I don't talk about much a alysha ic for me personally, i'd lived more about you being a successful person. Integrate joy with a purpose and drive life is all about finding the right baLance for the season. Your but i've been getting really excited about trying new things, wanting to baLance that with what i'm driving out, what brings you joy? And do you have a metric for when you need to rethink or engage with that area in order to fuel your drive? This is something i've been playing about a good bit, which is trying to have more fun like I literally.

The question that I have for this year is, is IT possible to be world class whilst having fun? That was that the question for me this year IT may be that in order to be world class fun has to go out the window. If that's the case, it'll be it'll make me sad.

But it's whatever I like that the Price that you haps need to pay. I'm really, really trying to do this. So what brings me joy hanging out with my friends, being outdoors, doing new things, visiting new places, going for good food, especially different like adventure and novelty for me, uh uh, very invigorating.

It's also a great way to make uh, time slow down when people say, um I can't believe how quickly this is gone. What they mean is I don't remember the days that have gone so far. Gn, this year. One of the best ways that you can slow this down is to add mal memory units. And memory units are highly derived from how much novelty has been if you drive the same route to work every day for three years.

That's basically a thousand journeys that's condensed into one memory unless there's one day in particular where there was raining, you skied or you involved in a car crash, a someone gave you a phone call and told you that you got a raise or whatever like you remember. But because it's always the same thing, IT just gets condenser down into one, essentially one memory. So trying to vary and add as much novelty as possible is very good.

That's something that I try and do. I try and adventure as much as I can. I try and do new things with new people, meet people, go up with different, different dinners and travel, and do all of that stuff.

Do you have a metric for when you need to rethink and engage with that area more in order to feel my my drive? Yep, when I can't bet to sit down and do any more work and i'm like, right, I think I need a break and that's when IT works. V, Z, T, F, two, you've mentioned how you adopt today train like an athlete mindset in pursuit of podcasting.

Any info as to what that regime entailed? Yeah, so this was something that I came across about four years ago, three and half years ago, in the midst covered. I just really, really wanted to become Better at doing the show.

And that meant that I had to cover all of the different basis. So for me to suit of podcasting, I took a bunch of different uh, content creation courses like a thirty days to be Better youtube channel from video creators. I update part time youtube r academy.

Uh, I learned thorny ing entitled design. I learned, uh, channel strategy for, I got a voice coach, uh, I started prioritizing sleep and hydration and I played about with nutrition to work out what makes me a sharper when I want an episode. And turns out that IT is just basically no cobs or fully fasted.

I started playing about with new tropics, which is what neutronic kind of was born out of, I suppose, even four years ago. 嗯。 Else they do started obsessively watching content creators that communicated a way that I wanted to be like. A lot of that was a land about on from the school of life. Bit of Peterson, good bit of rogan um and just looked at what they did and deconstructed the way that they spoke and the way that they communicated and then tried to fold that into who I am so I didn't just become some you know shadow version of them as okay, I really love the way that polls we used there or they asked a question with a statement or whatever might be folded up in and then worked on IT quite diligently.

There was a period the show got worse through during twenty twenty and twenty twenty one because being so deliberate with everything that I said and really trying to bring in all of this learning that the shows flow actually got was but I needed to do that in order to them build that, scale up and then come out the other side or maybe it's still getting worse. Who knows? Allen, one, seven, seven, nine.

What we're doing in utah, I was giving a keynote at first ever keynote that given was pretty fun um and I did that for a convention thing for a group of people that are part of a huge masterman five hundred people that was cool. And then the guy said, what are you doing? Five, thirty A.

M and I said, sleeping and they said, let's go, skin. And i've never skied before. So I got to go halfway up like, I got to go to the top of the start of a of a hill.

I got to go the top of the start of a hill before the actually begins， and I got to play about skin and that was that pretty cool um that fun to do something to feel like you're in a place for a really short space of time. And you got loads done you thought was beautiful though, especially being, and asked him just just flat as a flat everywhere. There's just no hills, the entire places super flat.

And then to be in salt like city, to the people that have never been imagined, a huge mountain range in A U shape, and then a lake. And someone looked at the gap in between the horsey of the mountains and the lake. Instead, let's make a city there.

And that's utah, or at least that solar city Simony. One seven, one four. Huge keys. Thank you.

My question is how much when you decide to push back on ideas of your guest or if that is something you consider? Great question, man. So i've mentioned this before my therapy speak again. My people pleasing nature is so strong, I don't want to upset people, I don't want to make people feel uncomfortable.

And my cringe meter is like to kingly hypertrophy it's something that i'm actively working harder at and I totally get IT that if you're bench pero or or destiny or husni by or you know germy paxman or Douglas IO whatever to them IT just seems effortless for them to find some criticism or to sit in the discomfort of saying something makes you are the person feel really uncomfortable or or or difficult and to just sit in IT I was talking about with that science, say the thing and just leave IT there. And that is such a huge it's a genuinely difficult Allene for me and further people that make them easily in the same way as for me staying fit, make them easily for somebody else going to the gym might be absolute nightmare. Um that's something i'm genuine, genuine, actively working on.

I tried hard with the eric wind stein episode was a bit he brought up something that I really don't agree with to do with sex and enda classification, one step at a time. But that that probably should have been the what you're looking to work on this year like my disagree ability, my scepticism, my scrushy within the episodes and also in my in my personal life of just being able to say what I mean and say what I think without worrying about how it's going to make the other person feel like it's not being impolite, it's being honest. And that is that a big uh if I can get that now, i'm confident that I can but when I get that, uh, I think that would be A A really big change but you like observing me go through quite a big um.

Transformation, I suppose, at the moment, going from wherever I was to whatever it's going to be for probably the next couple of years was pretty well set up until about a year ago or so. Then the last year has been tons of change. And then especially the last six months has been so much change and coming out the other side, hoping that it's going to a little bit less change because though, yeah, things like growing as much as they have is is odd.

And this is something I have to develop, something I have to get Better at. And i'm trying, and I really hope that you guys have faith in me and and believe that I am doing IT fabulous. Seven, three, nine.

Congrats on one point seven, five mile. Thank you very much. By the time you've seen, it's probably cause of about two.

Uh, have you ever thought about interviewing more musicians? I think someone like john may would make for a fascinating conversation. Never spoken of john mar.

Never seen him. But yes, I would love to. I tried to get sleep token. I know that's a bit a difficult ask given that the synonomous and also don't talk but then to the drama and it's two or three did a uh drum uh thing on youtube that was prety cool.

Uh so yeah i'd love to I uh eric prd with someone that would be interested talk to, I know that, uh, all of a tree I think it's called, uh, I know that he is floating around uh, and he seems really, really interesting. Also, all of a heldenfeld H I met in guatamo about a year ago and he he's pretty interesting to toki soba like interesting guy. So yeah, i'd love to a friend again.

I mean, god, if I could get that guy on would be amazing. But let me know any suggestions. Mollis A R R four o nine, when you're getting JoNathan height on the podcast, his new book is coming out soon and his work aligns a lot of the things you talk about in your podcast, things like social media addiction, mental health among gs Young people and the increasing social inaptitude of Young adults.

He is booked, done. I've got him on for his new book, which is called the anxious generation I think really hope i've got that right. But h everyone should check out, uh, john, how to work. Really good, very incisive. Uh and he'll be ond within the next month for up, uh, miami G X four R C.

How do you ensure each episode provides value to your audience? As long as they provide value to me, I assume that some non zero number of people in the audience will also find value from IT. It's too hard IT genuinely and IT doesn't work.

And I tried IT a while ago and IT really doesn't work to think, what do I need to do to make the audience happy because I am not you guys. I am me. So the the only thing that I can do is follow my curiosity and follow my instinct and be like this, this, add value to me and just assume the amon avatar for you.

And again, this is what I meant. I me to keep coming back to IT. But this is what I meant about not wanting to dig santista myself to singing, seen myself as part of, as an extension of the audience itself, as I just the guy at the tip of the spare, and then everybody else being downstream from that.

Because I want to continue to just do things to be as representative as possible, to, like, have to be as open and as messy as i've been today. I'm usually much slicker than this, but i'm i'm trying to work hard to be more honest, more open uh, emotionally about what IT is that going on. And if I do that, I have to assume that some non zero number of people in the audience are feeling the same thing, even if the situations different are not in all.

They're not podcasts. They are not british. They are not whatever. I have to assume that there is a good chunk of people that like that. And that was what I I always wanted.

I always wanted someone that was a couple of steps ahead of my journey, telling me about what the path ahead was like. Here are some pitfalls. Here are some ways that you can export ite success.

Here are some things I did that didn't work. Here are some things I did. They did work.

And if I just keep doing that, I have to it's the only thing I know and it's the most authentic and it's the most honest and it's the only way that I can do IT. And if IT provides value to me, hopefully i'll provide value to you. Goes to, so that's mine, totally unsophisticated ratee sandor k, again, cool name.

Uh, outside of the U. S. And the U.

K, where are some of the country to have invoke visiting, enjoyed visiting the most? What's on the top of your list of places you like to visit in future? Great question.

This is a simple one, isn't that I don't need to speak to my therapies about that? Bali was very good that the most quintin al White guy I could have said boley was really good. Thailand was OK.

I very much enjoyed by up north and very much enjoyed cos movie. I think that pocket is a shatter, and I think that chg my is a little bit of a shatter. And I think the bangkok is a huge shatter.

Well, have been that enjoyed gratiano was, uh, cool alone, not super safe. Uh, medicine in columbia was awesome. Community thirteen was super, super dope.

Uh, rome is my favorite city on the planet and athons was also fomented. I just like history. So those are great places, top of the list places I would like to visit in future.

Um i'd love to do Venus. I would. I've already done FLorence, which was phenomenal. Um anyway, that's got history.

Egypt i'd like to do um japan, I would like to do this turn of places. I've still never even touched australia. I've got this weird obsession with antartica as well.

So i'd love to go there, see the wall. Um there is a lot of places rohm hate my kid tenny tell us about your spiritual beliefs minimal. I guess I don't know what spiritual beliefs are. Have a bunch of friends one of my good friends that works for us, ben is moment and he loves his faith and I went to ripping cathedral with him and his wife and my mom on Christmas eve this year that was beautiful um but at my spiritual tank is relatively low.

Mum's a raki master so she's spent a long time doing this healing and and he does stuff Crystals and he talks about the moon and stuff like that and that's I I really enjoy that but for me, faith is a gift that i'm yet to be given. So I guess we wanted to see if that changes. I'm an awesome done hand.

How do you get so many great guests on your podcast? How do you start 3 dms o honestly， the number of people that just respond to D M especially if it's uh brief and if IT is um respectful and it's easy to respond to, you'll be surprised many people will just say yes. So just start throwing them out and also networking like once you get to you know the middle vel or above guests IT really only comes by referral unless they're fan of what you do already and you've got a real sort of warm lead in.

But even now, if I want to bring, I wanted to bring joke, a willing on the podcast, a lady who follows the show, that to find of the show, who'd, like, tag me in a story and reposted IT and then she'd hurt me. So I want to joo, and she's like, I did some writing with jacko and then SHE let me in. So like I was the most tenuous of connections to get joker willing on and that was two years ago.

So network had 3 dms。 That's that's literally all love on small chief. congrats. Thank you.

How do you ensure that you continue to push content that you stand by and not just the trends or views? Again, I just IT has to be am I interested in speaking to this person? I'm not always sure, right? Because like there's sometimes people that you're not sure if they're going to be interesting ones that and then you don't.

The conversation can be of varying levels of of interestingness, but I can always tell because the morning that I wake up, when i've got that episode later that day, if I am absolutely fired up and I just can't wait to get training out the way to leave IT and to do all the rest of IT and sit down and have a conversation and i'm prepped with them, and I have a conversation of super, say, the excited in advance, nineteen nine point nine percent of the time is a great indicator. Is gonna an amazing episode? It's very rarely wrong.

And then this at the time. So i'm like, I am going now we'll see how this person goes. I'm blown away and then very rally.

I have an epson de at night. I was okay. Like, but IT wasn't wasn't phenomenal. I just need to spend as much time as possible the way that I push content that I stand by and not just the trends of use.

The way that I do that is to just have as many of those days I can't wait to speak to the person because i'm not thinking while i'm spending an entire day learning about this person and their ideas and doing whatever, i'm not thinking, oh my god, I can't wait to release this because it's jumping on a trend or it's gona get a slots of views like I i'm thinking I can't wait to learn from them. I can't wait to hear they going to say to this oh my god, like this new study that just come out about this thing. I ve got to get opinion like I just do that just follow my instinct.

It's just instinct. This is something that I need to keep reminding myself as well. So even if IT sounds a little repetitive with some of the questions today, these are things that are important for me to remind myself.

And saying out loud isn't something that I do all that much. So this is useful, a technique for me to make sure that i'm remembering IT. This is a username, five, five, six, big com.

Congrats on this step toward two million and beyond and want to be a talk with alex how you brought up the idea that you can split test life. What do you think would be the best way to prepare yourself for such if you go all in on one of the splits and IT fails? Easiest thing is that a reversible decision?

You can go all in. But is this a reversible decision? Because if IT is doesn't matter.

That's how you prepare yourself. You prepare yourself by choosing things that are right. If IT is not a reversible decision and you still decide to go all in. You'd Better hope IT works, watch craft sports, seven, nine, all of these using names are so hard.

How do you see the fact of podcasts are more and more just profit oriented and therefore invite people who claim having a lot of knowledge, but only are here for publicity of selling that product? That often is an interest, conflict and contradictions, but often times the podcasts claim them to be experts. But what is really true? I see this trend a lot.

For example, in the diary of CEO podcast, would love to hear about that greeting from germany. The final word, dreamings from germany may explain why I had a little bit of travel in speaking that, uh, thank for the question. Do you see the fact that focus on more modes, profit oriented?

I don't know if Stephen's profit oriented, I I know that the team is very aggressively growth oriented, but I don't know if it's if he treats IT like a business more than that. We speak last time we spoke S A few months ago um briefly over whats up. Um I don't know if you treat IT like a business.

Uh there is uh, contradictions. Yes, there there are contradictions in every podcast. There are contradictions in this. I had episode with a wilcox who was talking about get married, his new book and it's a pops and surprisingly it's pro marriage. And then i've got James sexson coming on who was a divorce.

It's your job as the audience to figure out how you sit within this world of people if it's like, right, you had this guy on that's pro veganism. Therefore, you can only have other people on that. The probe agonising.

That's not the way that IT works. But the problem did you have. And one of the things that unfortunate in this show that isn't as big of a deal for me, if you have things that are hard sciences, like there are facts about diet, there are ways that the body works.

There are studies that can be done and research that be conducted that will give statistically significant reliable replicable results. right? Those are hard facts.

Me bring on someone who is pro marriage and marriage skeptical. These two people have two different perspectives on the same thing, because they are different people, because we've seen the world in different ways. There is no real such thing as seeing the gut in a different way of seeing stars in a different way.

Not different opinions about this stuff. But I understand why, especially when it's to do with your own health, when it's to do with this sort of anxiety, what what people want with health and fitness is, especially from a show like Stevens, is reassurance. I am doing the thing.

All this is what I need to do, right? That's that's the finally, thank god for that. That was the thing that I need to do. And if someone then comes on and after they feel like they've got the answer, that answer is then a thrown into question, quite rightly, that's gonna them feel like, oh my god, I thought I just had this thing and that's not, hey, hey, what what's having him with marriage?

Like if you're coming to a podcast for you to tell you whether or not you're supposed to get married, you are in the wrong place. You can find out perspectives and insights. I think that yes, IT is. If there is a show which is prioritizing profit over communication and to the quality of the guests and all the rest of IT, I think that, that's a high risk strategy.

But there are a whole host, maybe most of conversations in the topics that we talk about that are on you to do your own sense making about, and you can read a book and then a different book that has an alternate point of view. It's not the job of the books to figure out between themselves whose corrected. It's a job of you to be the sense making to work out how this is now yes, that shows created by a single person.

And should they be bringing in that other, uh, insight while I learned about this before? And what about that? Hang on a second. Yeah yeah probably. But it's an a malley making of choosing your podcasts carefully, I, and of ensuring that you use your own mindset and your own sense making abilities to take all of the information that you have with as big of a pinch of salt as you can, knowing what you know, lot of conversations, a lot of questions about this stuff, which I think means that my insight around this, like weather report of skepticism on podcast, I think that's accurate.

Iron month as a man about to enter the thirties, newly single for the first time in teen wow, how do I navigate this new arena of dating apps were not even really a thing when I was last single. Yeah, well I did. I remember standing on the front door of lq nightclub in newcastle swiping on tender.

And I got to the stage because this tender was really new, because the stage where there was no more people in your area like holy, you imagine that like IT would be basically impossible. I think he could probably swipe right for the rest of your life and not have known new people in your area in a big city, I would say. For a hell of a ride did um how do I navigate this new arena of dating? I don't.

I actually think you might be a bit of an advantage here. I think that a lot of people are over thinking dating. And obviously this is something that you're doing too, but I don't think that you need to I think that if you're about to end to your thirties, you've been in a relationship for thirty years.

You probably pretty fucking good marriage material evidently shown that are able to commit to someone for a long time. You have you sufficiently reliable and a consistent that we make a great partner. If you're looking to get into another relationship, I don't think you going to have any problems.

I think go slow, don't expect too much. Be forgiving of yourself if you have A, A A couple of bad dates because maybe there is a bit new world I dated for a while uh but yeah um I think you'll be fine. I think that you you already sound like a marriage material so you want have any.

Canada, three, six, seven. Would you ever consider interviewing scientists study near death dead and life after death. I became interested in that research over the last few months following my father's death, but i'm somewhat skeptical.

I admire your interviewing skills. Would love to hero conversation between you and any of those researchers like Bruce Grace, some pony a at such a best wishes from guy ona. wow.

guyana. Thank you. Um I had a conversation with a guy called paul Evans who had a, uh, andy near that experience.

He was really interesting. People go back and listen to that one maybe in one hundred ds I think um yeah that sounds pretty interesting. I will do a little Better research on those people, but i'm kid schedule i'm pretty schedule to be onest.

But um yeah i'll see i'll do some research. We come back to darn Collins, eight, fifty and gratz. Chris, keep up the great work. My question is, do you think that are valuable lessons worth taking from people who present themselves as willingness? interesting.

I wonder who presents themselves as wildness? People who seem willingness perhaps? Well, yes, I think that is valuable lessons taking from to be taken from anybody.

And this is one of the problems, again, that exists in tribal parts of the internet, which are that if you are only going to learn things from people who you completely agree with, you are going to be defeated and outstripped and and outgrown by people who don't have that level of tribal bias. So for instance, I say you were ordinary pro vaccine, and there is someone that was anti vaccine during covet. You say that person is anti vaccine.

Therefore, moving forward, I am never I never going to listen to anything they've got to say, whether it's about mindfulness or or geopolitics or lifting or whatever might be, i'm never going to listen to them. Well, okay, but you are going to lose out and it's kind of the same here. Know I don't like willingness people.

I don't know how many of them i've come across, but I don't want to be around them. I don't like the idea of them, but no one owns the truth. And if someone says something that's accurate, the. Separating the message from the messenger in the artist, from the art, I think, is very, very important.

You will learn significantly quicker if you can teach yourself to discover insights both from people who you usually agree with and people who you usually disagree with, because IT basically quite groupes, the pool, there are way more people that you disagree with didn't agree with. And if you can learn to take insights from them as well, your ability to learn will will increase and of a lot. So yes, I think IT is worth doing.

IT kv, risk of five one is new tonic coming to australia soon, man, have an your government doesn't like a bunch of the compounds we have in this. The U. K.

Government also doesn't like a bunch of the compounds that we ve got in this. The us. Just doesn't really care.

And we could put fans on in IT and will be fine. Uh, but U K, we had to get rid of some stuff and now we were. We ended up with this.

Uh, australia is just unhappy with with like the very, very strange and very covalent of the F D A or whatever is super stringent. I would not like we have anything like insane, just effective in here so soon, I hope. But I don't do some half assed product that isn't effective.

So if we can't get replacements that are as well researched, the ones that we do, maybe not until australia changes their laws, amy Robinson, four, four, five, one. Congrats, Chris. Absolutely fab stuff.

Thank you. What was the reasoning behind the neutronic logo onto your favourite type of youtube videos to watch? okay. So this is this sort of this new cameras, face tracking is gonna kill me here.

So this is an I the big guy is generated by, um I think dari, and recently did that was we wanted something that you couldn't put down. I think it's the most beautiful kind that have ever seen radios. Al, uh, and as soon as we saw IT, we just fell in love.

You can go much as the launch video on my, on my page, the first time I ever thought as I O that is cool. And then we adapted, adapted. What's my favorite type of you? Two videos to watch.

I watch all the stuff and really into world's to history documentary at the moment, which I think shine gillis calls early onset republican. I'm enjoying that. I'm enjoying a lot of stuff around physics from David keeps that does cool worlds' a Melody sheep also more of the same.

Uh, let me know, phenomenal. Uh youtube a uh lot of documentary basically um those and um some fitness stuff my kids were tell I can't. I'd watch all of this stuff is great run, jane can del two nine, two four? How do you pick momentum back up when you lose a bit of steam? And he reframes to change your mindset, to feel like it's going downstream rather than upstream.

Love the pod changing lives. Thank you. And I feel with this, it's a vicious cycle when things are going well.

IT is easy to make them go Better when things are going badly. IT is more difficult to even slow that down. So yeah, I feel you when you lose a little bit of steam, IT sounds so trying.

And I know that you're going to think because I would think this you're going to think that fucking too obvious. And no, I wanted something more of a hack. Just start small and don't stop.

Two great rules for this. Even the smallest amount of contribution to whatever the thing is that you're supposed to do constitutes done. And never miss two days in a row.

Going to the gym can consist of one one exercise, four sets, fifteen reps. And then you like OK didn't want to go and that sucked. And IT was really low or whatever.

Almost all of the energy, almost all of the activation energy when you've lost steam is spent on starting doing a thing, not keeping IT going at all about starting. So you have to reduce the friction on the starting. That means environment design.

Read atomic habits by James clear. You probably have to already, but read atomic habits by James. here. I'll reread IT to remind yourself of IT, even when read the back, come about the read. Okay, read half a page, read one page, read a sentence.

All of the energy is deployed in getting over the hump at the start, not in keeping going. So just realize a beginning to get things to go downhill. IT starts as soon as you begin the thing.

Second thing, never missed two days in the room. Never miss two days in a rope. If if you miss two days in a row, that is no longer a mistake.

IT is start a new habit. Those are my two things, and I use this. I use this all the time. Blue wave, three, four, one, seven.

Chris, do you think the podcast explosion is a good thing? Are so many platforms really a net positive? Or do think there's too many voices out there? I don't understand this question.

I don't understand how IT would be a net negative. There's too many voices out there. I don't know what that means. I do think that the podcast explosion is a good thing because IT changed me an awful a lot, took me from being someone who didn't understand himself, who didn't know how the world worked, or or how to show up and behave in the world, or whether I was personally cursed, by the way, that I saw myself and people around me, and the chAllenges that I had, and I started listen to people who had exactly the same issues and and thought patterns and insights and fears and goals and dreams, I did.

And the more opportunity that there is for individuals to be that avatar, to be that person who is like, oh that like that like me. But they just know a tiny bit more and I can learn from them by in the slip stream and I enjoy IT. That's great.

Uh, is there a risk of people being too confused? Yeah but that's on them. That's not on the that's not really on the creator.

It's like if there's too many voices that is so many shows you don't know which you want to choose. Like that's not that's not on the creative side of things, you have a multiplied of options. Continue to try them until you find someone that speaks to you. I think it's absolutely in that positive. And one hundred.

Percent, melanie melnik, do you have a process for balancing your own internal imposed high standards of execution, mental, physical, comic with Grace, learning opportunity to grow, and you found yourself not meeting the very standards that if you were to expect the same from another person, that would be seen as nikki and unattainable did. This is very simple to whatever IT was the first, second, second question right at the top. This baLance between high standards and and Grace and and and allowing yourself with becoming and being is the perennial question.

Listen to what everybody y's saying, it's the same chAllenge you. This is not some personal course. You are not alignment or or broken. This is a feature. It's not a bug of the way that life works, and it's something the ideal as well.

Do I have a process for balancing that high standards? I have faith that I tried my best, and that sounds so right, and I wish that I didn't. It's like the netflix and chill of the effort and personal development world.

But genuine, if you try to your best, what more could you have done? And if you didn't try your best, what were the things that meant that you didn't try your best and how next time okay, it's the a economy gregers coach called kind of my gregers coach read a book that was, uh, win alone. It's literally that and that means that you don't lose.

You either succeeded. The thing that you are doing, you meet your high standard of execution or you don't and you are okay. Let me have a little reflection on that.

This isn't a common at me as a person. I'm no less of a person for not being able to get this thing done. How do I take whatever i've just done, whatever fAilings I had, whatever pitfall I encounter, change that, and then move forward and IT won't happen again and again.

That's what the never miss two days in a rough thing comes from, that it's this very sort of a positively looking forward a mentality. Ryan, utter back. Congrats, Chris. Is IT just me or the women seem farmer anxious of men than ever before?

As far as I knows, statistically, male, female violence is the lowest it's been in history that I feel like another hurdle I have to overcome in the dating market is being supersensitive to women, aggressive perceptions of men. I don't know if these women are ingesting too many crime document entries, podcasts. Wow, that would be an unseen who's calling out the crime podcasts.

That's what I want to know, crime junkie, they're ruining. That's the pink pill problem. Not you don't don't be worried about the red pills, the pink pill coming downstream from cereal fucking in crime junky.

I personally, I don't think it's that I don't I don't think that I would guess that is a with clash over reaction to me too. I think that are a lot, especially of jensie spending more time in the phones. Everyone has zambian anxiety also.

Everybody is observant of the way that others behave on the internet. And they're scared of that scrutiny being turned on themselves, that scared of being part of some, you know, all that your hearing is the worst stories in the entire world, twenty four hours a day globally fed your eyes. And is you probably be pretty scared too.

Like this is one of the things that a guy I was talking to over the weekend. The focus are talking to who was not talking to I can't remember I was talking to someone I remember. I remember this um inside being really interesting, which was guys don't realize how much of a big role fear plays in the way that women show up in dating and IT seems like this true as well. I think it's meet too.

I think that what that did was bring to the forefront this this idea of I think it's called a uh collective sociality um which is what happens to other people is also my problem are which means that if some other woman has been attacked in its in the news, which is being more exposed than ever before because we have twenty for our news and ubiquitous access to the internet that all that that has an impact on my life i'm part of this IT is part of this sort of communal socialisation thing yeah I I I think I think it's dispute, but I think that also you can signal quite easily, quite quickly that you're not a creep. And once you've got past that and you've got into a zone of safety, I think that women should, at least in my experience, seem pretty warm. All right, I think that's IT.

Ladies and gentleman, I really appreciate you luck. Bit of a different one today. And maybe this reflects my just I met with the show like I I adore IT and i'm not stopping, I promise, and I have no, I even thought about stopping and I don't want to and i'm not going to.

But I would be lying if I said that I wasn't in this weird transition period between this guy that just started a thing with his mate dean, and just wanted to talk to his friends doing IT once a week and now at three times a week. And we spend thirty one, thirty five grounds a day to fly to arizona record with Jordan Peterson and advertisers and is pressured to perform. And we don't do that.

And thirty five ground in the hole and that's not going be good. You know, all of this stuff scrutiny online, all this shit. Um i'm really hoping i'm going to come out to the side of whatever this version of transformation is and like really be appreciative that I went through this.

Um but yeah I I would genuinely appreciate a lot of support and stuff if you guys have got IT in the tank if you want to that all of the nice comments and things and feedback maybe you know the ryan holiday so I can me shouldn't be as uh at the mercy of the people's opinions and maybe at some pointing the future I won't be but I kind of don't like that. I don't in a way I don't like the idea of that like I want to take compliments and and all of the nice things that you guys say, I want to take that to heart ah so anyway, gabbling and I will let you go, but I appreciate you very much. One point seven five million, i'll see you at two million. It'll be very soon some huge guests coming on over the next couple of months. A genuine you appreciate you big love.